Star Fox- Lylat Wars [Concluded]

[Renata]

(aka Khaan and Wideyewanderer) aren't neutral

Then vote Khaan. He was on that "I'm so obviously a Venomian" bandwagon that made me call out Pinman, yet he's not neutral.

[Beskar]

I'm as lost as everyone else. It would help if there was some way for them to contact me without all of us having to reveal. The only thing I know is that I have a worthless ability, and that some people (aka Khaan and Wideyewanderer) aren't neutral

Actually, your ability is very useful, if used in conjunction with other players. If you could join Star Wolf, we would have a big advantage with your results and we would take you. Your results would be able assist us in working out who the mafia are from the townies, as we can collerate results.

From what I gathered, Fox can only recruit 1 person per round. Both you and Beefy claimed in the same round. As Beefy is the reviver, he was deemed higher priority than yourself. You would probably end up recruited by Fox tonight and gain access to their quicktopic.

On another note, I am interested in a couple of replies during the Beefy incident. I will look into those myself, personally.

[Beskar]

Then vote Khaan. He was on that "I'm so obviously a Venomian" bandwagon that made me call out Pinman, yet he's not neutral.

He claimed Cornerian, not Venomian, at least later. Which post are you referring to?

[Renata]

Khaan claimed Cornerian? Then perhaps nevermind, I'm not sure. I'm talking about the bandwagon on wideyedwanderer, which appeared to have formed merely on the basis that he made it obvious he was Cornerian. It attracted what is presumably a lot of Venomians, and at least one mafia (Pinman). I can't imagine why any Cornerian would vote that way given the flimsiness of the "case", and Khaan is not neutral.

[Beskar]

Khaan claimed Cornerian? Then perhaps nevermind, I'm not sure. I'm talking about the bandwagon on wideyedwanderer, which appeared to have formed merely on the basis that he made it obvious he was Cornerian. It attracted what is presumably a lot of Venomians, and at least one mafia (Pinman). I can't imagine why any Cornerian would vote that way given the flimsiness of the "case", and Khaan is not neutral.

Trying to look for it now.

He said that neutrals should die and they are not town.
He claimed he was a Simple Townie and he is very bad at that role.
and some other things which made him look pretty much Cornerian.

I am searching the thread for your mention, if you are correct, it makes him worthy of an investigation at least.

[Beskar]

I read through the thread. Khaan hasn't claimed Venomian and if anything, his posts indicate Cornerian. From voting venomians, neutrals, etc and to saying he is a simple townie, etc.

Still the possibility of him being a mafia, just never claimed anything which seems out of character for that.

[Double A]

You can stay in cover role character too. It's pretty easy to get away with if everyone has a generic role.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am sadded. Some people no send in orders.

*sigh*

You can sends them in advance, you know. Round ends at 2359 today, then.

[Renata]

I read through the thread. Khaan hasn't claimed Venomian and if anything, his posts indicate Cornerian. From voting venomians, neutrals, etc and to saying he is a simple townie, etc.

Still the possibility of him being a mafia, just never claimed anything which seems out of character for that.

He was on the WEW bandwagon, that's all I was thinking of/going on. I hadn't had time to check the rest, so if I'm wrong, oh well.

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Actually, your ability is very useful, if used in conjunction with other players. If you could join Star Wolf, we would have a big advantage with your results and we would take you. Your results would be able assist us in working out who the mafia are from the townies, as we can collerate results.

From what I gathered, Fox can only recruit 1 person per round. Both you and Beefy claimed in the same round. As Beefy is the reviver, he was deemed higher priority than yourself. You would probably end up recruited by Fox tonight and gain access to their quicktopic.

On another note, I am interested in a couple of replies during the Beefy incident. I will look into those myself, personally.

What did I miss? What can Double A do that nobody else can?

[Joooray]

What did I miss? What can Double A do that nobody else can?

I think he can scan people for being neutral or not.

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

I think he can scan people for being neutral or not.

Interesting, very interesting.

It seems that most of the work being done in this game is at the hands of a select few players. Either way, my finals have finished now so I can get a lot more involved in this sort of thing.

[Choxorn]

It seems that most of the work being done in this game is at the hands of a select few players. Either way, my finals have finished now so I can get a lot more involved in this sort of thing.

That always happens in mafia games.

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

That always happens in mafia games.

I'm just annoyed that we could have prevented Rob64's lynch if people had listened to me. Ahh, I suppose there's nothing that can be done now.

[Beskar]

Mafia is full of "What if" scenario's. But people were going to follow the lead of Star Fox more.

[Double A]

I'm not opposed to people listening to Beskar, as long as he doesn't try to betray us or something.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Night Phase Six

Titania- Arid Desert




Another "for fun only" video. It has no bearing on the story. For background music, click the music link below this video instead.





_______________________

Renata was flying her Blue 6 fighter over the planet Titania, looking for the source of the proton-antiproton missiles. The dry, rocky surface was filled with hazards and dangerous creatures. She was too distraught over how lame it was to be a vanilla townie to even notice the massive wormhole opening up just above the planet.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Renata: SIGGHHHHHHHHHH.....................

The missiles emerged from the wormhole as usual, and streaked toward the surface.

Renata: Huh? What's that in the sky? Missiles? ...............Good. I've had it with all these boring roles. Curse you Askthepizzaguy! Curse you AND your random number generator that hates me apparently! You will rue the day you made me vanilla! I.... prefer..... chocolate!!!!!

Renata went full throttle towards the first missile, and switched off her deflector shield, and then stalled her craft and hit the ejector button.

Renata: Screw this lame ship that can't even do anything! Bye bye ship! Hello gigantic missile! You'll love me, won't you? Or at least acknowledge my existence by literally bursting from the excitement of meeting me? Please say you love me.

The missile didn't reply, but it felt sad that it couldn't give Renata a powerful role like she wanted, to break her streak of lame vanilla roles. Then, it exploded.



Renata: YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!













PHASE COMPLETE

SHIPS DESTROYED: 1









Renata- Cornerian Fighter

Renata: Oh well. At least I took a missile down with me! I died like an hero.

Alive: (30/44)

Alexander the Pretty Good
ArpeggiateTHIS
Autolycus
Beskar
Chaotix
choxorn
civplayah
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Diana Abnoba
Double A
Frozen in Ice
hell_hound
johnhughthom
Joooray
Khazaar
Krill
landlubber
Miotas
Nictel
Nightbringer
Death is Yonder
Secura
shlin28
Skooma Addict
Stuck in Pi
TheFlax
pevergreen
Psychonaut
wideyedwanderer
Yaseikhaan


Dead: (14/44)

Askthepizzaguy- James McCloud
pevergreen- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
Death is Yonder- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
civplayah- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
choxorn- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
shlin28- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
Chaotix- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Pinman- Attack Carrier pilot- Attack Carrier
Yaropolk- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Seon- Venomian Assault Force Fighter Pilot
Romanic- Falco Lombardi
God Emperor- Vemonian Assault Force Fighter Pilot
Beefy187- Rob64
Renata- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot

Out of this Dimension: (4/44)

White_Eyes:D- No vote 3 days in a row.
Rob_the_Celt- No vote 3 days in a row.
merciary- No vote 3 days in a row.
YLC- No vote 3 days in a row.



Begin Day Seven

Voting ends on 2359 July 5th, (GMT-5:00) Eastern US time.

[TheFlax]

I'm just annoyed that we could have prevented Rob64's lynch if people had listened to me. Ahh, I suppose there's nothing that can be done now.

Thing is, you didn't really say why we shouldn't vote for Beefy except "I know he's telling the truth". I mean, someone could have said that for Pinman and following that advice would have been wrong. Since you are not right 100% of the time, we can't just turn around and switch our votes on your say when two pro-town power roles are for this lynch, after having made an investigation.

Also, AFAIK, the game isn't in the hands of power roles. Sure people listen to their investigations, but most lynchs are determined by good old fashioned mafia hunting techniques. So don't despair, we are listening to you.

[wideyedwanderer]

Well this sucks. I liked Renata.

Pizza guy, why is civplayah listed as both alive and dead? Also, I haven't seen Stuck in Pi around...shouldn't he be listed as out of this galaxy?

Vote: johnhughtom because after Falco died the first time he mentioned something about wanting to be dead. If it's true that he's Katt, and his goal was supposedly to protect Falco, his victory condition might change (vengeful townie??) now that Falco is dead for sure this time. He hasn't said anything else about this since...perhaps he was trying to give us a hint, before actually moving on with his new victory condition? I believe jht is an experienced player and would not want to die simply because he lost his personal goal.

john also was the first to vote to lynch Rob64. Coincidence? I don't know.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizza guy, why is civplayah listed as both alive and dead? Also, I haven't seen Stuck in Pi around...shouldn't he be listed as out of this galaxy?

civplayah died very early as a vanilla role and was thus a suitable replacement player for Winston Hughes, who dropped from the game due to busy IRL.

Stuck in Pi voted on Day Four. He hasn't been inactive enough to be kicked out of the galaxy yet.

[Choxorn]

Pizza guy, why is civplayah listed as both alive and dead?

He died, then came back and replace somebody, like me, Pevergreen, and DiY.

[pevergreen]

He died, then came back and replace somebody, like me, Pevergreen, and DiY.

*spasm*

Vote: Sploxorn

[Beskar]

vote: Landlubber

He has successfully voted for every lynched person, except for Pinman.

He is on one of my "needs to be investigated list" but unless more information comes into play, I think he is a very good choice to be lynched.

[seireikhaan]

Vote: Joooray

He tweaked me the last round before the whole "Falco recommends Beefy" debacle. Something about it, gut instinct I guess.

[Beskar]

Vote: Joooray

He tweaked me the last round before the whole "Falco recommends Beefy" debacle. Something about it, gut instinct I guess.

I think ArpegTHIS is far more scummer than Jooray. The mafia knew Beefy was who he was, however, Star Fox team suspected Beefy due to their activities. What is interesting about Arpeg, is how he was running around "convinced" Beefy is saying the truth, even though Beefy's own team (nor mine) had access to this information of 'confirmed innocence'.

I am really interested, I only held back because there was the possibility you was an unaligned power-role, but the results on that gave a negative.

Arpeg, so how was you so certain Beefy wasn't the mafia?

For reference, I am going to quote what Arpegthis is stating:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I cannot wait to tell everybody "I told you so" on this.

Hmm. I'm getting second thoughts here in case I'm doing something stupid defending him. No, I really cannot see what he's done that makes him scummy. I'm pretty sure he's Cornerian.

If he IS cornerian, that's 1-0 to me.

Why didn't you listen to me? Why did NONE OF YOU FOOLS listen to me?

Here goes: I toooolldddd you so.

I'm just annoyed that we could have prevented Rob64's lynch if people had listened to me. Ahh, I suppose there's nothing that can be done now.

[seireikhaan]

While that's possible, Beskar, I personally feel that, most likely, the mafia were sitting tight during the Beefy rundown- maybe voting for Beefy, maybe not, but not making a big deal out of it either way. This feels too early to go out of one's way to declare innocence.

Of course, you may be right- it certainly is not out of the question that arp is doing exactly what you say. For now, though, I'll stick with my instinct.

[Beskar]

While that's possible, Beskar, I personally feel that, most likely, the mafia were sitting tight during the Beefy rundown- maybe voting for Beefy, maybe not, but not making a big deal out of it either way. This feels too early to go out of one's way to declare innocence.

Of course, you may be right- it certainly is not out of the question that arp is doing exactly what you say. For now, though, I'll stick with my instinct.

ArpegTHIS is attempting to place a lot of legitimacy into his grasps, however, "no one knew that about Beefy" (except for the mafia; beefy didn't have a clue himself).

[naut]

This is way too easy. It's Frozen In Ice. Will bring up a collection of his posts.

Vote: Frozen In Ice

Also, I like the accusations towards Landlubber, however it can be refined, when analysing votes look at whether that player ends up dead in the future, Maf will usually vote for players they kill off 2/3 rounds later on (exceptions being high profile players, who they will kill but not vote for). Skooma should also be looked at, but, I'll want to do some analysis first.

[naut]

#131

#305

#601

I'm going to have to go with Vote: Beskar. I feel that if we even have only a fair chance a getting a mafia out of this whole Pinman v. Beskar, we have to take it.

In every lie there is a grain of truth. He knows this is a 50/50 split for his buddy, so at this stage he feels it is safe to attempt to save his rear-end. It's contrived, it's forced. He wants to appear innocent while rescuing Pinman.

#700

#753
He'll wager the case is stronger against Beefy ay? Look at the post above. Cdf posts about the number of cases. A Maf will subconsciously try and copy townie posting style so as to attempt to "blend in". Most Maf don't even realise they are doing it. It's just a natural reaction.

#773
#783
These two. So easily convinced. Wants to be agreeable. Not rock the boat.

#910
Mafia vote. Knows that we are lynching a town role, but doesn't want to be associated with it.

#955
Odd clarification.

He's posting just enough to be active, without drawing the spotlight. He needs to go.

[naut]

Yep. landlubber too. Three votes for future murdered players. Vote to innocent ratio is far to high. A townie is more sporadic in their voting. Will amend this with a post collation.

#147
#198
#267
Hmm. Reading into these too much would be hard, but the tone should be noted, very reserved.

#292
Votes later murdered player.

#401

#437

#492

#516

#766
Voting lurkers at this stage is a terrible option.

#886

#948

Sorry 'khaan/GH/Sigurd for the triple post. But editing my vote post will invalidate it, and for the sake of clarity I don't want to place the analysis of landlubber and FiI in the same post.