Star Fox- Lylat Wars [Concluded]

[Chaotix]

The bad news is, the Mafia are hiding within the lurkers, non-Orgahs and the replacements. While my last investigations have been searching within these areas, I keep hitting "n00bian defence force" "n00bian fighter". However, there is another problem with the list of lurkers/replacements/etc which haven't been investigated. Both Fox and Peppy are on it as well. This means the Mafia might hit the list which would be helpful, however, it would spell the end of Star Fox/Peppy if we end up lynching one of them or them getting night killed.

So we have a choice. Either I reveal the list of those I don't know the identities of, perhaps giving away Fox and Peppy to the mafia, but inversely the list can be used by the mafia to lynch confirmed innocents.

Why did you TELL us that Fox and Peppy aren't on that list?

You could've just given us the list of those investigated as innocent, without giving out role info. Then the mafia wouldn't have known if Peppy and Fox were on it or not.

[Beskar]

Why did you TELL us that Fox and Peppy aren't on that list?

You could've just given us the list of those investigated as innocent, without giving out role info. Then the mafia wouldn't have known if Peppy and Fox were on it or not.

Why are you so interested in a list of innocents? For your next night kill?

[pevergreen]

Why are you so interested in a list of innocents? For your next night kill?

That doesn't make sense.

Fox...did you see his falanges?

Vote: Beskar

[Death is yonder]

I agree with the current assessment of Diana.

I'm getting scummy vibe from her, and she's also acting weird. She normally posts more than this, and she also is bandwagoning a lot- she's voting, almost consistently, for the person who ends up getting lynched.

Diana is indeed capable of posting more than her current showing. Additionally, most of her posts tend to be unrelated to the game itself such as "Thanks Pizza for the write up", and so and so.

This indicates to me that she is indeed following the game with abject interest, yet however, why this does not translate to a more active stance on things makes me quite suspicious.

Given the current situation where no clear-cut (pro-town sponsored) suspect is provided, my take on the matter is that Diana is a fairly good lynch for today, out of all possibilities.

[Death is yonder]

Whoops forgot to vote.

Vote: Diana Abnoba

[Diana Abnoba]

Dang, get home from working the weekend, to find this. Your picking the wrong person, I'm just a Venomian, no mafia here. I don't think I'm posting less than I usually do, but maybe. I really don't know these character well, and I've never played the video game before, so I guess I really don't have too much to add most of the time. And what's wrong with giving my honey a little pat on the back. He always put a lot into his games, and his write ups. He is a great host, that's why I always join his games.

Well, I need to sleep now, I've had maybe eight hours in the last 3 days, I won't be back on until tonight (after I get my sleep, do wash...). Oh yeah, don't we have investigators in this game? Maybe some results from these investigation would be nice.

[Renata]

Vote Diana. It's hard to believe she missed that Slippy is dead, or any of the conversation about Beskar's investigations.

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Dang, get home from working the weekend, to find this. Your picking the wrong person, I'm just a Venomian, no mafia here. I don't think I'm posting less than I usually do, but maybe. I really don't know these character well, and I've never played the video game before, so I guess I really don't have too much to add most of the time. And what's wrong with giving my honey a little pat on the back. He always put a lot into his games, and his write ups. He is a great host, that's why I always join his games.

Well, I need to sleep now, I've had maybe eight hours in the last 3 days, I won't be back on until tonight (after I get my sleep, do wash...). Oh yeah, don't we have investigators in this game? Maybe some results from these investigation would be nice.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

That is the worst, most prompted, light-hearted excuse I have ever heard. Geddem, boys and girls.

[Renata]

Yes, it reads very false.

[autolycus]

I think something's off about vote: Diana Abnoba

[Krill]

*shrug* I'm not reading the thread closely, as I said beforehand. You want to vote for me, fair enough, but it is interesting that Beskar chose to just vote for me instead of questioning me in private (could pm me if chat details are wanted). That lack of effort does make it looka little like s/he wants to publicly reveal the list so that the cornerian fighters get offed instead of any venomians.

vote: Diana Abnoba, because it is the safest way for me to not get lynched.

[Death is yonder]

Well, I need to sleep now, I've had maybe eight hours in the last 3 days, I won't be back on until tonight

Well I empathize if you have had a busy schedule recently but this simply does not account for the duration encompassing the entire game.

And what's wrong with giving my honey a little pat on the back. He always put a lot into his games, and his write ups. He is a great host, that's why I always join his games.

The main issue is that you've been posting very little material in relation to actual events occurring in game (Stances/Thoughts on updates, implications, etc, Pinman vs Beskar, Beefy Issue, so on so forth)

Beskar chose to just vote for me instead of questioning me in private (could pm me if chat details are wanted). That lack of effort does make it looka little like s/he wants to publicly reveal the list so that the cornerian fighters get offed instead of any venomians.

I believe that ATPG forbade any form of private communication except that of offical quicktopics and between players and hosts.

If I'm not mistaken, it was one of those rounds where he said a direct rule break was narrow averted or something along those lines, hence the change in rules to prevent any such future occurrences.

*shrug* I'm not reading the thread closely, as I said beforehand.

[Secura]

Absolutely awful bandwagon; Diana isn't mafia.

[civplayah]

How do you know? I do admit I don't think Diana's mafia.

[Secura]

She has already been scanned by Beskar.

[wideyedwanderer]

Absolutely awful bandwagon; Diana isn't mafia.

Care to provide some insight? Or at least a better option?

EDIT: Got to it before me. You could still provide a better option, though.

[Secura]

Care to provide some insight? Or at least a better option?

vote: autolycus

His vote for Diana seems like an attempt to blend in with a seemingly runaway bandwagon, and he's clever enough to know that excessive explaining of his vote might draw the ire of other players, such as what I gave Joooray a few rounds back for voting johnhughthom.

By voting as he has, he appears to simply agree with the bandwagon and would likely be overlooked for an explanation.

[Krill]

So, stupid question, but how do you set up these quick topics, or get invited to one, except by asking ATPG to PM the player with the QT link?

[TheFlax]

So Diana posts this

Then the next day we get a bandwagon on Shlin. Then an abstain on the Pinman v. Beskar debate, fits with her post against bandwagons, but not her behavior the previous day. On that day phase the options were pretty clear and abstain was a pretty bad choice. When Falco is revived Diana decides to post to state the obvious. After that we get, bandwagon, bandwagon and this oddity, a "test run"? Either you agree with Beskar's plan or you don't, there was nothing to "test". Oh and then we get, guess what? Another bandwagon. That's a lot of bandwagons for someone who made one of her longest post in the game about explaining how she dislikes bandwagons. It seems to me as Diana is doing her best to stay out of the limelight by making multiple posts that blend in, either by bandwagonning people, commenting on the writeups and pointing out obvious information. I remember the games I played where Diana was a vanilla townie and she was way more aggressive than this. I'd be surprised that Diana turns up vanilla townie. My first instinct is Mafia.

Which brings me to this:

She has already been scanned by Beskar.

Oh? I happen to know about most of Beskar's scans before the private communication ban and Diana wasn't in those. So what's your connection with him?

Anyways, I'd very much appreciate Beskar to come and confirm what you said. Meanwhile, I'll withhold voting for Diana.

[autolycus]

You say Beskar's scanned her? Very well, unvote, vote: krill. I don't really feel like I have any leads, so I'm going to trust other people's instincts.

[Secura]

Beskar turned up after all.

[Double A]

Even if I did investigate her, I kinda died, so I wouldn't be at liberty to tell.

[Beskar]

Diana is a Venomian.

I pretty much said earlier (though not outright) that Diana wasn't the mafia, which is why I said "Curious" as the initial voters completely ignored what I said.

[TheFlax]

Diana is a Venomian.

Color me doubtful, but I have been wrong so many times, I'll trust you are saying the truth.

I'm still interested in how Secura knew this.

[Secura]

I pretty much said earlier (though not outright) that Diana wasn't the mafia, which is why I said "Curious" as the initial voters completely ignored what I said.

That could have been construed as anything, really.

I'm still interested in how Secura knew this.

It's so transparantly obvious now.

[TheFlax]

I was really gunning for Diana as my top suspect since yesterday, so since I don't have a backup suspect, I will Vote: Krill for now, in case people don't come back to unvote Diana.

[wideyedwanderer]

Unvote, Vote: The Flax. He seems to be around just enough to make it known he's here, and then he goes and does a very detailed (overly detailed, looking to much into things, perhaps?) examination of why Diana is mafia. Nobody has really pressured him the whole game.

[Beskar]

Unvote, Vote: The Flax. He seems to be around just enough to make it known he's here, and then he goes and does a very detailed (overly detailed, looking to much into things, perhaps?) examination of why Diana is mafia. Nobody has really pressured him the whole game.

Because Pinman revealed him as a Venomian, which he is. Hence no one analyses him as it has been revealed pretty much all game.

[wideyedwanderer]

Because Pinman revealed him as a Venomian, which he is. Hence no one analyses him as it has been revealed pretty much all game.

Could you please refresh my memory as to how Pinman revealed him as Venomian? Because wasn't Pinman mafia?

[Beskar]

Could you please refresh my memory as to how Pinman revealed him as Venomian? Because wasn't Pinman mafia?

He was a mafia investigator. His death prevented the town roles getting revealed, this is why the mafia is targetting people based on thread activity (Double A, ArpegTHIS, etc)

This is why I am not posting a list of innocents, because I rather people I don't know dying than the ones I do know dying.

Also, I investigated TheFlax myself at the beginning of the game, it appears Pinman did as well.