Reflections on the World Cup: Africans aren't badly organized; you're just a racist.

[Meneldil]

EDIT: And what "reasonable" result did the asian teams accomplish, if I may ask? The biggest defeat in the cup? Conceding four goals against both Argentina and Germany? In fact, the Korean team conceded more goals than Nigeria did in the same group; yet we still blast the negroes for behaving like monkeys, while praising the discipline of the far east?

The Asians have mediocre players who managed reasonable results and solid teamplay.
The African teams featured an array of international stars who underperformed.

That is the difference. Notwithstanding that, most games played by Japan (less so for Korea) were interesting to watch.

[HoreTore]

The Asians have mediocre players who managed reasonable results and solid teamplay.
The African teams featured an array of international stars who underperformed.

That is the difference. Notwithstanding that, most games played by Japan (less so for Korea) were interesting to watch.

Nonsense! One of the problems with the African sides, is that the world-class players are paired with rubbish players. Take Ghana, for example, where Chelseas Michael Essien is in the same starting eleven as Wigan's third choice goalkeeper, Richard Kingson. It's like saying that Norway and Sweden should be a football super-power because we have Carew and Ibrahimovic.

And both Korea and Japan have solid national leagues, something none of the african teams have.

[Andres]

Every WC team has been analysed and criticised. I don't know about Norway, but in Belgium, each game was analysed by specialists explaining the good and the bad of each seperate team. So yeah, at a certain time, somebody will have said that some African team was badly organised when giving away a chance or so.

Which begs the question: what's the purpose of this thread?

That we admit that we are white and that being white is a synonym for being an evil racist after which we will collectively chastise ourselves for our sin?

[Hosakawa Tito]

Pass the flail Andres.

[Gregoshi]

That we admit that we are white and that being white is a synonym for being an evil racist after which we will collectively chastise ourselves for our sin?

We are such alabastards.

[Peasant Phill]

Is saying that a certain football culture can be described as unorganized racist? Is saying Italy fielded players 'on their way out' or that the Netherlands used anti-football tactics in the finale racist?

Besides I believe that 'disorganised' actually means less effective. African football, as admitted by those players themselves, is more focused on the moves/actions/... than on winning. Hence the reason for lack of concentration at the back or to much dribbling, ... A lot of African teams even hire a European coach to drill in the 'organisation'.

[HoreTore]

Is saying that a certain football culture can be described as unorganized racist? Is saying Italy fielded players 'on their way out' or that the Netherlands used anti-football tactics in the finale racist?

Besides I believe that 'disorganised' actually means less effective. African football, as admitted by those players themselves, is more focused on the moves/actions/... than on winning. Hence the reason for lack of concentration at the back or to much dribbling, ... A lot of African teams even hire a European coach to drill in the 'organisation'.

....If it was actually true, then no, I would have absolutely no problem with it.

The problem is that it isn't true, and this world cup proved it. The african sides all kept tight at the back, in fact Ghana's team was built around a strong, organized defense.

oh, and organized in this context doesn't mean being effective, it means that the defenders are positioned correctly and do not allow opposing attackers to move about unchecked(like Podolski was time and again in the match against England)

[Slyspy]

....If it was actually true, then no, I would have absolutely no problem with it.

The problem is that it isn't true, and this world cup proved it. The african sides all kept tight at the back, in fact Ghana's team was built around a strong, organized defense.

oh, and organized in this context doesn't mean being effective, it means that the defenders are positioned correctly and do not allow opposing attackers to move about unchecked(like Podolski was time and again in the match against England)

Wasn't the coach of Ghana a European?

[Beskar]

England can't play as a team, they are too focused on individual merit. Then a team like Germany, who are not individually as good as our players, can however, play as a team, totally beat England backwards and forwards, while the overpaid wussies cry for mummy, as the Germans smite them.

I think this sums up Anglosaxon culture compared to European culture at large.

[HoreTore]

England can't play as a team, they are too focused on individual merit. Then a team like Germany, who are not individually as good as our players, can however, play as a team, totally beat England backwards and forwards, while the overpaid wussies cry for mummy, as the Germans smite them.

I think this sums up Anglosaxon culture compared to European culture at large.

England is among the worlds 15 best nations. Qualifiyng for the quarter final is thus a very good achievement, and qualifying from the group stage is good. The problem is that every englishman believes that England is by far the best team on the planet....

Gerrard and Lampard better than Müller and Özil? Hah! Heskey better than Klose? Double hah! Nintendo James? ....no, I won't go there, I wouldn't be able to stop laughing......

[rory_20_uk]

England can't play as a team, they are too focused on individual merit. Then a team like Germany, who are not individually as good as our players, can however, play as a team, totally beat England backwards and forwards, while the overpaid wussies cry for mummy, as the Germans smite them.

I think this sums up Anglosaxon culture compared to European culture at large.

Brazil? Italy? Both done exactly the same thing. Or are they joining us in the same culture? France won a few years ago, but got thrashed this time. Ah yes: they went on strike! Perhaps there is something in linking footie teams with their national mentality.

In any team, big names have a tenancy to be arrogant and more interested in personal glory / money than anything else. It's happened many times in the past and it'll happen again.