Star Fox- Lylat Wars [Concluded]

[TheFlax]

I'd have chosen Nightbringer, myself, but he can still be lynched. 'Course with the way things have been going this game he'd probably just be the winner of the game's "scummiest innocent" award. Still, you can't really let stuff like that go by.

I'd say some of his posts last round were "too scummy". Even so, he's a better vote than most at this point.

Vote: Nightbringer

I'm was also tempted to vote either Miotas or shlin28, I cannot recall a post by either in the last several phases, which means to me they haven't spoken up much and they are IIRC on Beskar's shortlist.

[Nightbringer]

I'd say some of his posts last round were "too scummy". Even so, he's a better vote than most at this point.

Vote: Nightbringer

I'm was also tempted to vote either Miotas or shlin28, I cannot recall a post by either in the last several phases, which means to me they haven't spoken up much and they are IIRC on Beskar's shortlist.

I don't know what I've done that is so scummy. I'm just a noob and a simple venomian fighter. ive just felt like we are all flailing around in the dark, thats why i have been waffling with my vote a lot.
I would say we should follow Beskar's lead but... so i really dont know who to go after at this point. people have said that the replacments were starfox members and unknowns. with starfox gone maybe we should just weed through that list now.
i certainly dont see why we should try to lynch beskar of all people. star wolf is our best hope. unless people have reasnn to believe he isnt really star wolf but a mafia in disguise. that doesnt seem likely thoguh because he would have been called out by te real star wolf

[wideyedwanderer]

i certainly dont see why we should try to lynch beskar of all people. star wolf is our best hope. unless people have reasnn to believe he isnt really star wolf but a mafia in disguise. that doesnt seem likely thoguh because he would have been called out by te real star wolf

Star Wolf and Andross could be working together. None of Star Wolf's team has been killed, and team star fox has practically been annihilated. You would think that the mafia might mistakenly kill off some of team star wolf as they hunt for team star fox, but why hasn't it happened? Beskar openly claimed star wolf a long time ago, yet the mafia think that kat monroe is a bigger threat? Star Wolf is neutral. There's nothing stopping him from taking the side of the mafia.

[Beskar]

There's nothing stopping him from taking the side of the mafia.

Lies. Especially since my victory condition to defeat the mafia. Even more so, it was the Mafia who revealed me, in efforts to lynch me off. Also, it was me who actually netted us the first dead mafia.

In otherwords, stop blowing smoke.

[wideyedwanderer]

Lies. Especially since my victory condition to defeat the mafia. Even more so, it was the Mafia who revealed me, in efforts to lynch me off. Also, it was me who actually netted us the first dead mafia.

In otherwords, stop blowing smoke.

At that time, either you or pinman were going to be lynched. You made a convincing case and saved yourself by netting a mafia. One mafia. Since then, team star fox and cornerians have dropped like flies. Not to mention you're getting awfully defensive.

Townies, we have two options:

1) Continue to let Beskar live and lose the game.

OR

2) Lynch Beskar and maybe get out of the hole we dug for ourselves.

[pevergreen]

Vote: Beskar

We don't want your guns thank you very much.

[TheFlax]

At that time, either you or pinman were going to be lynched. You made a convincing case and saved yourself by netting a mafia. One mafia. Since then, team star fox and cornerians have dropped like flies. Not to mention you're getting awfully defensive.

Townies, we have two options:

1) Continue to let Beskar live and lose the game.

OR

2) Lynch Beskar and maybe get out of the hole we dug for ourselves.

Pinman revealed Beskar he was about to be lynched. Why would he expose an ally in an effort to save himself? It makes no sense. You could argue that it was to permit Beskar to gain some credibility and lead town, but I think it was way too early in the game to pull something like that. I don't think lynching Beskar will lead us anywhere.

[wideyedwanderer]

Pinman revealed Beskar he was about to be lynched. Why would he expose an ally in an effort to save himself? It makes no sense. You could argue that it was to permit Beskar to gain some credibility and lead town, but I think it was way too early in the game to pull something like that. I don't think lynching Beskar will lead us anywhere.

Perhaps Beskar was not aligned with the mafia at that time. It got to a point where either Pinman or Beskar would be lynched, and Beskar managed to save himself. We should not have absolute faith in Beskar just because he happened to help lynch a single mafia.

[Choxorn]

Pinman revealed Beskar he was about to be lynched. Why would he expose an ally in an effort to save himself? It makes no sense. You could argue that it was to permit Beskar to gain some credibility and lead town, but I think it was way too early in the game to pull something like that. I don't think lynching Beskar will lead us anywhere.

There are two mafia teams, it's entirely plausible that Pinman was on one and Beskar on the other.

And Beskar, the "You're Protected" excuse is BS. They have no less reason to assume that Double A, or Romanic, or Arpeg, or john, or... any of the pro-town power roles were protected, but attacked them anyway. For that matter, maybe you should re-read the write-ups when Double A and Romanic died for further proof of why this excuse is BS.

[Romanic]

At that time, either you or pinman were going to be lynched. You made a convincing case and saved yourself by netting a mafia. One mafia. Since then, team star fox and cornerians have dropped like flies. Not to mention you're getting awfully defensive.

Townies, we have two options:

1) Continue to let Beskar live and lose the game.

OR

2) Lynch Beskar and maybe get out of the hole we dug for ourselves.

Lynch Beskar or lose, what a bad argument. You make it sound like there's only 2 options. What will you accomplish by killing Star Wolf? There's at least 3 other Star Wolf team members around (Leon, Panther, Andrew). We would be nowhere closer to a win or a loss, and the Big Bad will still be killing one of us every night.

The Big Bad is the priority.

We should not have absolute faith in Beskar just because he happened to help lynch a single mafia.

Exactly. Don't put your faith in Beskar. Don't let him pull the strings. Find your own suspects and go for it, but don't lynch a neutral, he's not who you should be worried about at this point.

[wideyedwanderer]

Lynch Beskar or lose, what a bad argument. You make it sound like there's only 2 options. What will you accomplish by killing Star Wolf? There's at least 3 other Star Wolf team members around (Leon, Panther, Andrew). We would be nowhere closer to a win or a loss, and the Big Bad will still be killing one of us every night.

The Big Bad is the priority.

Exactly. Don't put your faith in Beskar. Don't let him pull the strings. Find your own suspects and go for it, but don't lynch a neutral, he's not who you should be worried about at this point.

Good points. But don't you think it's possible that Beskar could be pulling the strings? Do you have any suggestions as to who would make a better lynch? You were a member of team star fox, after all, and as far as I know, it's ok for you to make suggestions even though you're dead.

Beskar, nice OMGUS.

[Renata]

At that time, either you or pinman were going to be lynched. You made a convincing case and saved yourself by netting a mafia. One mafia. Since then, team star fox and cornerians have dropped like flies. Not to mention you're getting awfully defensive.

Townies, we have two options:

1) Continue to let Beskar live and lose the game.

OR

2) Lynch Beskar and maybe get out of the hole we dug for ourselves.

Remind me if you've been fully cleared by both Star Wolf and Star Fox (or by Arpeg)? Because that's a whole lot of Nintendo Wii there, to steal a phrase. Double A I know scanned you as non-neutral -- Beskar?

[Romanic]

I think this tally is about right:

5 Beskar (wew, pever, Chaotix, Psychnaut, autolycus)
4 pevergreen (Beskar, ATPGood, civplayah, CDF)
1 Death is Yonder (Diana)
1 wideyedwanderer (Nightbringer)
1 Nightbringer (Flax)
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? Not voting (everyone else)

[Beskar]

Remind me if you've been fully cleared by both Star Wolf and Star Fox (or by Arpeg)? Because that's a whole lot of Nintendo Wii there, to steal a phrase. Double A I know scanned you as non-neutral -- Beskar?

He hasn't been cleared, I thought he was by Double A, but Double A meant he wasn't scanned as non-neutral.

[Double A]

You know, as a Vemonian, we are on the same side right?

Don't be dumb by purposefully trying to kill your own team.

Dude, I scanned him as non-neutral 7 nights ago.

[Beskar]

Dude, I scanned him as non-neutral 7 nights ago.

You did? I thought you scanned him as neutral?

[Beskar]

unvote; vote: Wideeyewanderer

Mafia. (or extremely deluded townie, which is pretty much as bad)

[TheFlax]

I don't know what I've done that is so scummy. I'm just a noob and a simple venomian fighter. ive just felt like we are all flailing around in the dark, thats why i have been waffling with my vote a lot.
I would say we should follow Beskar's lead but... so i really dont know who to go after at this point. people have said that the replacments were starfox members and unknowns. with starfox gone maybe we should just weed through that list now.
i certainly dont see why we should try to lynch beskar of all people. star wolf is our best hope. unless people have reasnn to believe he isnt really star wolf but a mafia in disguise. that doesnt seem likely thoguh because he would have been called out by te real star wolf

Why reply to my post with no real accusation in it, instead of Renata's? You say we should weed down the "list", I assume you are talking about Beskar's list? Because you're on that list, AFAIK you haven't been investigated and of all the people on that list, you appear to be the best lynch.

[Nightbringer]

Why reply to my post with no real accusation in it, instead of Renata's? You say we should weed down the "list", I assume you are talking about Beskar's list? Because you're on that list, AFAIK you haven't been investigated and of all the people on that list, you appear to be the best lynch.

i quoted that one under the misapprehension that your accusation quoted in it would be carried over.
Yes, I am talking about Beskars list. I thought it was just replacement and CFC players thoguh, of which i am neither. If the lsit is different and i am on it then it makes sense to check me out. but i am not mafia, i am just a venomian. you are welcome to scan me but voting me off wouldent really help anything.

[TheFlax]

By CFC, Beskar means people who are not gameroom regulars.