A Bridge Zhou Far - Three Stars Rising [Concluded]

[Jolt]

Yeap. As is obvious, this turn can be make-or-break for the town as the Japanese have the chance to push for the revolt, convince a few townies and its game over. But then if they fail, everyone that tried to push for the revolt is pretty much a Japanese.

Obviously the advantage of telling you this is that now probably noone is going to try and revolt so they don't lose their anonymity. But then we're telling you this because we already know who most of the Japanese are, so no harm done in not joining on the revolt. I was actually hoping some more did join and revealed themselves (Besides Sigurd and Renata) before starting to explain this whole thing. Pity.

[Splitpersonality]

I'd say that Split's been Japanese the whole time

I'd say you're wrong, but my input don't mean much to you now does it?

As for the other two, I'd bet Split and one of either ATPG, DiY, or Double A.

I'd bet, not me, because you received my orders, and I'm pretty sure I don't have any other night actions that I sent in. Again cannot speak for anyone else.

It is clear to me that the enemies of PEXDET are making an all-or-nothing play this turn to remove me from power. Fine, bring it on. But if you fail, then you're marked.

Everything is clear to you, but nothing seems to be very clear to the town, who is trying their very best, I imagine being one myself, to follow along with you.

Sigurd. Jap.

Yet to be proven.


Sorry for the double post if there is one

[Jolt]

I can't speak for Double A, but I'm not Japanese.

The fact that you think/know that the Japanese are even remotely close to town numbers (if there's any more than 3 of them, I don't even know (that's assuming Renata and Nictel are japanese))


If the revolt succeeds, there are 12 people alive.

You are suggesting that there are 6 japanese in that case, because revolting should only kill GH.


If you're concerned about you seat of power, fascist, I can assure you at least one of you will retain their position when the revolution comes.

Apparently someone's skipping the write-ups and needs a math lesson. Now, let's review this:

Renata (1) + 3 attackers of Autolycus + 2 recruiters + 1 recruitee = ?

[Double A]

Yeap. As is obvious, this turn can be make-or-break for the town as the Japanese have the chance to push for the revolt, convince a few townies and its game over. But then if they fail, everyone that tried to push for the revolt is pretty much a Japanese.

Obviously the advantage of telling you this is that now probably noone is going to try and revolt so they don't lose their anonymity. But then we're telling you this because we already know who most of the Japanese are, so no harm done in not joining on the revolt. I was actually hoping some more did join and revealed themselves (Besides Sigurd and Renata) before starting to explain this whole thing. Pity.

You're missing my whole point.

He gave an officership to Sigurd, an apparent Jap. While I, a townie, am left in the dark for the entire game, even though I'm potentially saving ACIN's butt every night for half the game. Or trying to vig someone, emphasis on trying.

[Splitpersonality]

Split, if you are truly concerned for the welfare of PEXDET, then stop attempting to revolt. I will give you autolycus's position and let you in on everything.

I am concerned, I wish for our communist ways to spread. I do not wish to sell out for a position of power, but the power is not what I seek, it is simply the knowledge.

Yeap. As is obvious, this turn can be make-or-break for the town as the Japanese have the chance to push for the revolt, convince a few townies and its game over. But then if they fail, everyone that tried to push for the revolt is pretty much a Japanese.

Or townie's that were convinced by Japanese...

Obviously the advantage of telling you this is that now probably noone is going to try and revolt so they don't lose their anonymity. But then we're telling you this because we already know who most of the Japanese are, so no harm done in not joining on the revolt. I was actually hoping some more did join and revealed themselves (Besides Sigurd and Renata) before starting to explain this whole thing. Pity.

Again, the problem i find with this is, you know who Japanese are (allegedly) and you continue to toy with the information, on the basis of what, speculation?

[GeneralHankerchief]

I did not give any such thing to Sigurd. He isn't an officer.

Also, I'm sorry that the whole "go in deep" thing with Sigurd didn't work out. It was a gamble.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

We don't know all of them. The three we have positively identified are as follows:

Sigurd
Renata

Yes, I know Sigurd. I'll explain later on.

Nictel is, while not explicitly confirmed as one, is 99% Japanese. Reason being is he flaked out on Renata's vig group and was seen at autolycus's tent last night. That's about as confirming evidence as you can get without a positive identification.

Then we have split and double a, who came out of nowhere with this revolt. Split especially, who's been mostly inactive the entire game and suddenly the first post of any substance he makes is all coming out and trying to string me up. If I had to guess, I'd say that Split's been Japanese the whole time and Double A was recruited last night. But they can wait, and I'm less certain about them than the first three.

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Now, for Sigurd. Yes, he was Japanese the whole time. ACIN, with my approval, tried to go undercover and flush the rest of them out, pretending that he was a player aligned only to chaos. I think Sigurd suspected something though. We sacrificed Joooray for the sake of trying to take town three or four Japanese, but that time has passed. I'll provide you some of ACIN's and Sigurd's exchanges later, but from what we got out of it Sigurd had at least two comrades at the time, at least one of them being on the North Bank.

I had 7 people on Renata last night, including myself. Sigurd was one of them, I did this to keep cover. I knew he wouldn't show up. But that means three other people skimped out on orders as well. Obviously, Nictel was one of them. As for the other two, I'd bet Split and one of either ATPG, DiY, or Double A.

It is clear to me that the enemies of PEXDET are making an all-or-nothing play this turn to remove me from power. Fine, bring it on. But if you fail, then you're marked.

By the way, for any of you who are on the fence, look at who's tried to revolt against me in the past. YLC. Jap. Romanic. Unknown, but suspected KMT. Renata and Flax both had their reservations. Jap and recruited KMT. Sigurd. Jap. The list goes on and on...

Me? No.... I am a die-hard communist through and through.

Wait just a gosh darn cotton-picking minute. You're saying that Sigurd, Renata, Nictel, Double A, Death is Yonder, Splitpersonality, and me are all conspiring against you, GH? Who else?

There seems to be an awful lot. Who is actually working with you?

You're tossing loyal comrades in with that group, GH.

[Double A]

I thought you did?

[GeneralHankerchief]

ATPG:

Well... yeah.

I had seven people try to kill Renata last night. Only three showed up. Explain that without a conspiracy.

[Splitpersonality]

Apparently someone's skipping the write-ups and needs a math lesson. Now, let's review this:

Renata (1) + 3 attackers of Autolycus + 2 recruiters + 1 recruitee = ?

I don't deserve to be spoken down to, thank you very much.

Game aside.


In game, what makes you so sure Renata is not one of the recruiters or attackers?

[Double A]

Let's see... me, you and Jolt?

Or more likely, me, you, and DIY.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Double A:

Sigurd has never been an officer. I promoted Jolt a couple of days ago. He is an officer. Sigurd is not.

[Splitpersonality]

Let's see... me, you and Jolt?

Or more likely, me, you, and DIY.

I showed up, I CC'd GH my orders, and did nothing else that night.

[Double A]

Weird, I always thought he was.

Anyway...

[GeneralHankerchief]

In game, what makes you so sure Renata is not one of the recruiters or attackers?

We had Renata roleblocked last night.

From my understanding of the mechanics (and keep in mind, a lot of it was based off Pirate Ship Mafia, which I hosted) a roleblock would still go through even if the blocker was killed.

Anyway...

Anyway... please take your "revolt" vote off me?

[Double A]

No, you've still kept the town in the dark for an alarming amount of time.

I showed up, I CC'd GH my orders, and did nothing else that night.

Same here. Even if I was converted to Japan last night, there would be no reason for me not to.

[Jolt]

I don't deserve to be spoken down to, thank you very much.

Game aside.

What do you mean?

In game, what makes you so sure Renata is not one of the recruiters or attackers?

She was role-blocked.

[GeneralHankerchief]

CCing people means nothing. I had all 6 people CC me on that order, including Sigurd and Nictel.

[Double A]

3/7.

vote: Jolt

[Splitpersonality]

We had Renata roleblocked last night.

From my understanding of the mechanics (and keep in mind, a lot of it was based off Pirate Ship Mafia, which I hosted) a roleblock would still go through even if the blocker was killed.

Anyway... please take your "revolt" vote off me?

If you hold up your end, and give me Autolycus' position, then I shall...

No, you've still kept the town in the dark for an alarming amount of time.

Same here. Even if I was converted to Japan last night, there would be no reason for me not to.

I can admit to seeing the benefits of keeping the town in the dark, but I am not in the loop and cannot comment further

What do you mean?

"Apparently someone's skipping the writeups and needs a math-lesson"

I took offense to that, sorry if it wasn't you intent (I imagine it wasn't), I'm not in the best of moods right now .

[GeneralHankerchief]

Well, I can't CC myself.

Double A: Why the Jolt vote? Explain.

[Double A]

3/7 people sent orders in. I sent them in, and without a doubt you did. I don't see why split wouldn't send them in, but then again it's 1am, maybe I'm just tired.

Furthermore, Jolt's insistence that I'm Japanese makes me think he is Japanese over Split.

[Jolt]

"Apparently someone's skipping the writeups and needs a math-lesson"

I took offense to that, sorry if it wasn't you intent (I imagine it wasn't), I'm not in the best of moods right now .

Aww, this is just part of the game! I still love you outside of it Split!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Jolt was investigated and confirmed 100% innocent by ACIN himself. He is innocent. Someone who is *not* innocent, OTOH, is Nictel.

[Jolt]

3/7 people sent orders in. I sent them in, and without a doubt you did. I don't see why split wouldn't send them in, but then again it's 1am, maybe I'm just tired.

Not sure if you're following, but you're using that argument as if I was one of the seven people in the group. Ugh. I wasn't.

Furthermore, Jolt's insistence that I'm Japanese makes me think he is Japanese over Split.

Brilliant. I'm investigated as an inconvertible townie, promoted to the officer corps thanks to that, and obviously, the likely thing to think is that I'm Japanese. Especially when you're the one revolting. And not me.

[Splitpersonality]

Unvote: Jolt, Unvote: Revolt,

Vote: Nictel

[Askthepizzaguy]

Jolt was investigated and confirmed 100% innocent by ACIN himself. He is innocent. Someone who is *not* innocent, OTOH, is Nictel.

I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords. It beats slaving away on this long death march under YOUR administration.

Vote: Revolt
Vote: Jolt

It's true, because it rhymes.

[Jolt]

I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords. It beats slaving away on this long death march under YOUR administration.

Vote: Revolt
Vote: Jolt

It's true, because it rhymes.

Hm. Interesting.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords. It beats slaving away on this long death march under YOUR administration.

Vote: Revolt
Vote: Jolt

It's true, because it rhymes.

At least do me the favor and say you're Japanese if you're going with this route. After all, if you survive this round, you win the game anyway.

[Askthepizzaguy]

At least do me the favor and say you're Japanese if you're going with this route. After all, if you survive this round, you win the game anyway.

Look, all I really want is someone more reliable put in the cop position. You say these investigations are reliable, but who scanned ACIN?