Dragon Age: The Aeducan Succession [Stopped]

[TheFlax]

Current tally to the best of my knowledge:

Vote God Emperor: 3 (Double A, Yaseikhaan, autolycus)
Imprison Chaotix: 3 (johnhughtom, Pinman, God Emperor)
Imprison ArpTHIS: 2 (ArpTHIS, Split)
Vote ArpTHIS: 2 (Chaotix, Khazaar)

I think Imprison Chaotix is a bad move. If some don't believe him, we can pick someone for him to roleblock and that person can tell us the next day if he did it or not. I don't think that's necessary though because of ArpTHIS's claim of being roleblocked.

If I have to Vote: God Emperor, whom I don't even know why we are voting for, to stop Chaotix from being imprisoned, then so be it.

[johnhughthom]

If I have to Vote: God Emperor, whom I don't even know why we are voting for, to stop Chaotix from being imprisoned, then so be it.

Unvote, Imprison: Mr THIS.

Surely a better option than exiling/murdering someoe without cause.

[Pinman]

Fine.

Unimprison; Imprison: ArpeggiateTHIS

Now can we not kill somebody random?

[God Emperor]

I am sorry but since you all are so eager to have me killed without any cause, surely an imprisonment seems to be a better option, as concluded with all our other targets? or am I that special ?

[Double A]

I am sorry but since you all are so eager to have me killed without any cause, surely an imprisonment seems to be a better option, as concluded with all our other targets? or am I that special ?

Oh good he's back.

Hi.

[civplayah]

imprison: ArpeggiateTHIS

[seireikhaan]

Renata-

It is possible that chaotix engineered the whole thing. It may be possible that he knows someone who's leaking information or that the mafia discovered chaotix' role night one. It may be possible that the mafia got lazy or were inhibited by role or some other game structure. I simply stated that, in my opinion, the odds were more likely that the imprisonment of arp was not directly related to the absence of a kill. I personally find it a bit odd that there have not been multiple killers yet- the game, I would think, especially given we already know there is a protector(n1), and role blocker(chaotix), that there would be a somewhat high number of mafia or otherwise anti-town forces to balance the pro-town forces out. My best guess is that the anti-town forces have some kind of "extra-cirricular" abilities that don't directly relate to killing, and they have been focusing more on these the first couple nights.

[TheFlax]

I'm not exactly what imprisoning someone tells us at this point, it only clears someone as innocent if there is only one killer, which I doubt with our numbers. Yaseikhaan sums it up well. If he is right, imprisoning the right people won't even give us feedback that we are right. We should be lynching someone. What I said earlier should be taken more as a "Why God Emperor?"

[Renata]

Renata-

It is possible that chaotix engineered the whole thing. It may be possible that he knows someone who's leaking information or that the mafia discovered chaotix' role night one.

There's no private chat or off-board reveals allowed in this game, so leaks are a bit difficult to hypothesize. The mafia discovering Chaotix' role night one is plausible, but there being any relationship between that and what happened between Chaotix and ArpTHIS is not so much -- they'd have to be quite sure Chaotix would block ArpTHIS in order to get any use out of it at all, and that goes right back to the leak issue. IMO either Chaotix did it himself as a way to get townie cred for his mafia-roleblocker role; or it was coincidence. (I think ArpTHIS is a townie.)

It may be possible that the mafia got lazy or were inhibited by role or some other game structure.

Sure, there are several possibilities.

I simply stated that, in my opinion, the odds were more likely that the imprisonment of arp was not directly related to the absence of a kill.

Actually you said "accident or setup". You didn't rank the likelihood.

I personally find it a bit odd that there have not been multiple killers yet- the game, I would think, especially given we already know there is a protector(n1),

Romanic "protected" himself, or?

and role blocker(chaotix), that there would be a somewhat high number of mafia or otherwise anti-town forces to balance the pro-town forces out.

You're assuming by this that Chaotix and Romanic are both pro-town. Especially now we are aware there are neutral roles as well as mafia, that is not a given.

My best guess is that the anti-town forces have some kind of "extra-cirricular" abilities that don't directly relate to killing, and they have been focusing more on these the first couple nights.

This is entirely possible.


I said I found your conclusions plausible once I understood them, and I had even unvoted you -- what's the point of this post? You're defending yourself where no defense was needed.

Anyone have a vote count?

[TheFlax]

Anyone have a vote count?

Imprison ArpTHIS: 5 (ArpTHIS, Split, johnhughtom, Pinman, civplayah)
Vote God Emperor: 4 (Double A, Yaseikhaan, autolycus, TheFlax)
Vote ArpTHIS: 2 (Chaotix, Khazaar)
Imprison Chaotix: 1 (God Emperor)

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Imprison ArpTHIS: 5 (ArpTHIS, Split, johnhughtom, Pinman, civplayah)
Vote God Emperor: 4 (Double A, Yaseikhaan, autolycus, TheFlax)
Vote ArpTHIS: 2 (Chaotix, Khazaar)
Imprison Chaotix: 1 (God Emperor)

Seems more than fair on town's part. I appreciate that town hasn't right-out lynched me.

[johnhughthom]

Any particular reason you talk about "town" as if you aren't part of it?

[Renata]

Any particular reason you talk about "town" as if you aren't part of it?

Any particular reason you pick on a triviality of wording as a reason to cast doubt on someone?

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Any particular reason you talk about "town" as if you aren't part of it?

I can't exactly take part in my own lynching, can I?

[seireikhaan]

There's no private chat or off-board reveals allowed in this game, so leaks are a bit difficult to hypothesize. The mafia discovering Chaotix' role night one is plausible, but there being any relationship between that and what happened between Chaotix and ArpTHIS is not so much -- they'd have to be quite sure Chaotix would block ArpTHIS in order to get any use out of it at all, and that goes right back to the leak issue. IMO either Chaotix did it himself as a way to get townie cred for his mafia-roleblocker role; or it was coincidence. (I think ArpTHIS is a townie.)

Indeed.

Actually you said "accident or setup". You didn't rank the likelihood.

Called it a hunch, to be precise, that it was one of the two.

Romanic "protected" himself, or?

Re-read the writeup. Romanic is pretty clearly protected by someone else.

You're assuming by this that Chaotix and Romanic are both pro-town. Especially now we are aware there are neutral roles as well as mafia, that is not a given.

The protector, yes, that would be a bit of an odd role for an anti-town role. Chaotix could easily be anti-town, but it seems quite risky for him to reveal so early if he was. So I would hazard that he's probably, at worst, neutral.

I said I found your conclusions plausible once I understood them, and I had even unvoted you -- what's the point of this post? You're defending yourself where no defense was needed.

Thought I ought to clarify for the rest of the players, since you decided to clarify my post for me(which you did a mostly good job of). Your series of posts did strike me as quite odd though, going from hyper-aggressive to suddenly backing down- the very thing you accused me of yourself.

[Renata]

Thought I ought to clarify for the rest of the players, since you decided to clarify my post for me(which you did a mostly good job of).

All right.

Your series of posts did strike me as quite odd though, going from hyper-aggressive to suddenly backing down- the very thing you accused me of yourself.

I didn't accuse you of being hyper-aggressive; I accused you of opportunistically jumping on a chance to give an earlier vote some unearned weight by associating it with Reenk's accusation, then hedging your bets in a scummy way when forced to back down. But you didn't hedge your bets in a scummy way, so there was no reason to keep my vote. By itself, the re-accusation of Chaotix means nothing.