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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanic View Post
    Oh no! Pigma basically invited himself into your team.
    But it was my personal goal to recruit Pigma... I was always going to pursue such a course, and was ready to tear my hair out until I got the tip-off; are you genuinely saying that Pizza gave me an ability and personal goal to recruit a role that was going to tear our group apart?

    Was he ever scanned for neutrality?
    I don't think Pigma was scanned by anyone but me, and that was merely to see if a player was Pigma or not... so that'd be a 'no'.

    That would explain why there has been no kill on the Star Wolf team so far. Andross knows who you are and is getting free information on the QT, so he intends to kill Star Wolf last. It would also explain how they miraculously hit blue innocent every time (11 night in a row so far) as they could be using your scan results to find who we are.
    This is certainly plausible, but I'm pretty hesistant to accept it as a given considering the severe implications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secura View Post
    But it was my personal goal to recruit Pigma... I was always going to pursue such a course, and was ready to tear my hair out until I got the tip-off; are you genuinely saying that Pizza gave me an ability and personal goal to recruit a role that was going to tear our group apart?
    Ugh... no I'm not saying that. It's news to me that your PG was to recruit Pigma. Did you mention it before in the game thread? If you did, well... I missed it.

    Still I think it's possible. It would be a brilliant twist in the game. Who knows with Pizza.

    Quote Originally Posted by Secura View Post
    I don't think Pigma was scanned by anyone but me, and that was merely to see if a player was Pigma or not... so that'd be a 'no'.
    If you have any way to scan Pigma, I suggest you do so, especially if you can scan for neutrality. However, I'm not sure how useful a ship scanning ability would be in this case.

    Btw, I know that Pigma is the odd day vigilante and that he killed Choxorn (Fox). Besides the suspicions I already stated, I found that Beskar slipped in the game thread yesterday.

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    still leaves ATPGood, Chaotix, Wideyewander,Miotas, Hell_Hound unaccounted for. I hope Pigma's attack, takes one of them out.
    Of course he edited his post after Choxorn noticed, but his post contains the unedited version:

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    I hope Pigma's attack, takes one of them out.
    What?
    You have to look at everything Pigma said in the QT. Look for hints on how eager/unwilling he was to kill people.

    Pinman knew Beskar was Star Wolf, so we can assume they have a scanner, unless Pigma was told Day 4 who Beskar was, in which case, he could have told Pinman. If they do have a scanner, then it's possible that they would have scanned Choxorn and knew him to be Fox. So have a careful look at what happened on Night 9 when Fox was killed by Pigma - Who proposed the kill, how Pigma reacted etc...

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    Blah, what a night. We lost Peppy, Wolf and Leon. I guess that clarifies our questions about Star Wolf being on our side.

    At least Peppy got Skooma (Rock Crusher), if that's any consolation.

    How many are they? We never heard of Rock Crusher before last night.

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    Ouch.

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    So Shogun Droid, Gorgon, Vulcain, and Andross are still alive, with only 12 people left. It appears Wolf was ???, so hopefully the Star Wolf scanner survived and can tell us about Autolycus.

    Basically the only way the town has a chance is if Andross or Vulcain gets lynched today (Shogun Droid and Gorgon seem to work together so taking out one of them won't reduce the kill count). That should reduce the number of kills tomorrow night to 2 which would put us at 9 people total, 3 mafia. If then the other mafia of the Andross + Vulcain pair gets lynched that would give them only one kill from Shogun and Gorgon. That means two days from now that would be 7 people left, 2 mafia. It looks like it's still possible for the town, but we gotta be perfect from now on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanic View Post
    How many are they? We never heard of Rock Crusher before last night.
    I'll echo Romanic's sentiments here. We know of three bad guys and there are only three unscanned people remaining (IIRC), unless autolycus wasn't scanned. Even if he wasn't, things don't fit. Was Skooma Addict scanned?

    Perhaps we have been putting too much faith in scans? Not to disparage Beskar, but we should probably look over the thread again and bring up possibly new suspects.

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    Errrr, okay.... ??? was Wolf, so it destroys my theory about Pigma being the odd day vigilante.

    Quote Originally Posted by Double A View Post
    Whatever, lynch him. He's probably Cornerian, but I don't care anymore. Last night had 5 deaths, that's just insane.
    No, AA, just no!!!

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    Last night we lost four, but we DOUBLED our Androssian kills in a night! We're gonna get them, don't despair.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlax View Post
    I'll echo Romanic's sentiments here. We know of three bad guys and there are only three unscanned people remaining (IIRC), unless autolycus wasn't scanned. Even if he wasn't, things don't fit. Was Skooma Addict scanned?
    Skooma was listed a neutral by Beskar in his recent posts, but I'm not sure when he was scanned. Maybe a look back at the thread will reveal more details.

    Last time I checked, there was 4 unscanned players left: autolycus, Chaotix, hell_hound and wideyedwanderer.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlax View Post
    Perhaps we have been putting too much faith in scans? Not to disparage Beskar, but we should probably look over the thread again and bring up possibly new suspects.
    We definitely need to do that. Neutral players who have been scanned early are more likely to have been converted, so knowing when someone was scanned plays should play a big part in who we should focus on. Obviously the 3 remaining Star Wolf have better insights than everyone else.

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    Well, I'm glad that we can all stop trying to kill star wolf. btw, i meant vengeance for letting fox die, not actually killing fox.
    Anyway, I think we have a couple of options left. 1 is to continue going through the list of unscanneds. autolycus looks very fishy to me, his role claim pm is very flawed and inconsistent with the general format. He needs to either admit to the editing he has done or be lynched. or did we get a good scan result on him?
    the other option is to go back and look at people we have scan results on already. The problem is this is a much larger list and surely at least one androssian is on the unscanned list. My bet is still no autolycus being scum due to his fake looking role pm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanic View Post
    Errrr, okay.... ??? was Wolf, so it destroys my theory about Pigma being the odd day vigilante.



    No, AA, just no!!!

    Listen to James McCloud: "Don't ever give up"

    Last night we lost four, but we DOUBLED our Androssian kills in a night! We're gonna get them, don't despair.



    Skooma was listed a neutral by Beskar in his recent posts, but I'm not sure when he was scanned. Maybe a look back at the thread will reveal more details.

    Last time I checked, there was 4 unscanned players left: autolycus, Chaotix, hell_hound and wideyedwanderer.



    We definitely need to do that. Neutral players who have been scanned early are more likely to have been converted, so knowing when someone was scanned plays should play a big part in who we should focus on. Obviously the 3 remaining Star Wolf have better insights than everyone else.

    I wouldn't be so sure my feathered friend. It took you this long to accidentally stumble into killing me, much like my brother, the mighty pinman, by sheer luck. You incompetent cornerians couldn't even get Star Wolf right, WE had to do it for you. Pathetic. Think it's a coincidence ??? killed Fox? Foolish fools! You should know better then oppose Lord Andross. Falco, if you beg me nice enough, I may ask my Lord to make you a deal. Our Lord is a merciful one. Hopefully you won't outlive your usefulness like the last one.
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    Surprised Guys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skooma Addict View Post
    I wouldn't be so sure my feathered friend. It took you this long to accidentally stumble into killing me, much like my brother, the mighty pinman, by sheer luck. You incompetent cornerians couldn't even get Star Wolf right, WE had to do it for you. Pathetic. Think it's a coincidence ??? killed Fox? Foolish fools! You should know better then oppose Lord Andross. Falco, if you beg me nice enough, I may ask my Lord to make you a deal. Our Lord is a merciful one. Hopefully you won't outlive your usefulness like the last one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinman View Post
    Surprised Guys?
    Not really, after the shogun and gorgon droids appeared I suspected Androssian team was likely making play for the end game, it just wasn't substantial enough to propose it though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Secura View Post
    I knew that was coming straight away, it was so transparantly obvious; perhaps now the peanut gallery will finally buck up and understand what Beskar and I have been saying all along... we're on your side.

    Beskar is prohibited from posting, but he asked me to pass on a message; Andross is in the list of unscanned roles, so go back and look over them all, and go through them. Search their posts, find the inconsistencies and then lynch those lurking ********.

    It may well seem like an impossible mission, what with Star Fox all dead and Star Wolf without their two leaders, but the game is still very much in your hands guys... you can still win.
    Yes indeed, remember, I was never advocating lynching Beskar

    One good thing that came out of all of that, was that now we have more in thread opinions to analyze. Androssian team would have likely realized that supporting Beskar in thread (IE: Skooma) would help gain them some credibility and maybe even a potential reprieve, or the reverse may be true. Anyway, the previous days after I started posting more substantially should be closely looked at as well.

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    Anyway, I died doing good, that's good enough for me.

    Go forth and bring the towns to victory then, Star Wolf team, the previous round was not a failure. Now nobody has reason to distrust you, you guys are verified neutrals. And we got Skooma out of all it too.

    After the game I suppose I really want to know Beskar's motives for doing several things, which you can find reading our QT post-game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanic View Post
    Errrr, okay.... ??? was Wolf, so it destroys my theory about Pigma being the odd day vigilante.



    No, AA, just no!!!

    Listen to James McCloud: "Don't ever give up"

    Last night we lost four, but we DOUBLED our Androssian kills in a night! We're gonna get them, don't despair.



    Skooma was listed a neutral by Beskar in his recent posts, but I'm not sure when he was scanned. Maybe a look back at the thread will reveal more details.

    Last time I checked, there was 4 unscanned players left: autolycus, Chaotix, hell_hound and wideyedwanderer.



    We definitely need to do that. Neutral players who have been scanned early are more likely to have been converted, so knowing when someone was scanned plays should play a big part in who we should focus on. Obviously the 3 remaining Star Wolf have better insights than everyone else.
    Dude, we doubled our kills to TWO. That's like saying at least we came in second in the drag race.

    I'm just pissed because I STILL don't know wtf happened.

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    I knew that was coming straight away, it was so transparantly obvious; perhaps now the peanut gallery will finally buck up and understand what Beskar and I have been saying all along... we're on your side.

    Beskar is prohibited from posting, but he asked me to pass on a message; Andross is in the list of unscanned roles, so go back and look over them all, and go through them. Search their posts, find the inconsistencies and then lynch those lurking ********.

    It may well seem like an impossible mission, what with Star Fox all dead and Star Wolf without their two leaders, but the game is still very much in your hands guys... you can still win.
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    Everything in my previous posts were correct at the time. Any edits were to fix typing errors, etc. Anyway, good luck.
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    What the HELL just happened!?

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    Due to what seems to be an unintentional rule break, two players are hereby asked to refrain from posting anymore, until the game is over.

    Final reminder to everyone: Do not communicate outside of thread. Next time, it could result in a ban from my games. I'm very sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    Due to what seems to be an unintentional rule break, two players are hereby asked to refrain from posting anymore, until the game is over.

    Final reminder to everyone: Do not communicate outside of thread. Next time, it could result in a ban from my games. I'm very sorry.
    I just want to bend the rules a little more to say one of them was me. I wanted to do more for the game than I have, and now I can't due to my own fault. I'm sorry, townies. Good luck.

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    Ok, so we seem to have at least 4 androssians left (Shogun Droid, Vulcain, Gorgon, and Andross himself). Based on Beskar's results, this seems to provide proof that one or more of them are converts from being Venomian. This helps to corroborate my ability, because it's a clear indication of a converter. Our top priority clearly needs to be tracking down Andross, however. I am fairly convinced at this point that Andross is none other than WideyedWanderer. He hasn't been scanned by Beskar, and was scanned on night 2 by Double A as non-neutral. It's possible he's a vanilla Cornerian, but I don't think it's likely.
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    Whatever, lynch him. He's probably Cornerian, but I don't care anymore. Last night had 5 deaths, that's just insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autolycus View Post
    Ok, so we seem to have at least 4 androssians left (Shogun Droid, Vulcain, Gorgon, and Andross himself). Based on Beskar's results, this seems to provide proof that one or more of them are converts from being Venomian. This helps to corroborate my ability, because it's a clear indication of a converter. Our top priority clearly needs to be tracking down Andross, however. I am fairly convinced at this point that Andross is none other than WideyedWanderer. He hasn't been scanned by Beskar, and was scanned on night 2 by Double A as non-neutral. It's possible he's a vanilla Cornerian, but I don't think it's likely. Then you're going to feel very wrong after I die.
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    It'd be one thing if you said something like, "I think wideyedwanderer could be andross." But you said, "I'm fairly convinced he's andross." Sounds to me like you're trying a little too hard to blame someone, especially since you don't have any argument against me except for saying I was scanned by Double A. If you were really "fairly convinced" I'm andross, you'd have more proof. Not to mention, you role revealed quickly after people first started getting suspicious of you. Feeling the heat? (Yet, the mafia still chose not to kill him last night? Hm...) Vote: Autolycus. I don't even care if I die. The town is lost.

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