Star Fox- Lylat Wars [Concluded]

[Romanic]

My scanner doesn't give back "neutral or something else, OR town or something else" results. It's either neutral or not neutral. I don't see HOW that doesn't make sense.

Someone read my post too quickly.

I was asking Secura or Beskar if Pigma has been scanned for neutrality. I know all the results of your scans, AA. I'm in your team, remember?

[Secura]

I was asking Secura or Beskar if Pigma has been scanned for neutrality.

The player who tipped us off was scanned around the 25-26th June and revealed by my investigation to be Pigma... I don't think that player has been scanned since.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Night Phase Eleven

Lylat- Radiant Supermassive Star

Lylat.

The largest star in the galaxy.

The second star in the binary Lylat star system. Source of unimaginable power.

Venom.

A mineral rich world, overflowing with geothermal and geokinetic energy, which had once served as Andross' base of operations.

Now, Andross had found a new base from which to launch his attacks. A place with unlimited power.

Where he would become unstoppable....

Unknown: We've looked everywhere else. Andross must be here.

Leon Powalski: The energy given off by that star is interfering with our scanners, but I think I see something up ahead.

Pigma Dengar: *oink* Heh, this new ship can handle it. I spot the little man now.

Panther Caroso: *growl* What, more weaklings? Where's Andross himself?

Andrew Oikonny: Stick to the pond, Froggy!

Miotas: You've got the wrong guy! I'm not Andross!

Unknown: WHERE IS HE????? SPEAK!!!!

Miotas: I'm pretty sure I've seen him around here someplace... I spotted a base hovering just above the star's corona.

Leon Powalski: Why haven't you notified anyone of its location until now?

Miotas: I was just on my way to do that, I swear!

???: Not good enough, not good enough. You'll pay for your incompetence!

Miotas: WAIT! THERE HIS IS.... LOOK OU-

Shogun Droid: It's time to try our new weapon.

Unknown: It's an ambush...

Gorgon: That's right, Captain Obvious!

Unknown: No, Leon! Missiles right behind you, LOOK OUT!!!!

Leon Powalski: This can't be happening!

Peppy Hare: Looks like you guys could use some help!

Wolf O'Donnell: We're Star Wolf! We can take care of things by ourselves.

Peppy Hare: Doesn't look like it to me, there are more of them on the way! Watch out, Wolf!

Wolf O'Donnell: Shoot! He's right behind me.....

Peppy Hare: They're everywhere! What's taking you so long, Wolf???

Wolf O'Donnell: They're all over me, I can't break free.... aim for the yellow triangular power distribution nodes, that should collapse his shield.

Peppy Hare: All right you idiot Rock Crusher, you're about to get a country-fried butt whoopin'!



Rock Crusher: I will not be defeated by this worm!!!


Peppy Hare: This one is for Fox McCloud.... I've been savin' this one up since Venom. Active Hyper Blasters!!!!

Rock Crusher:No.... get away!

Peppy Hare: This one is for Slippy Toad... and this one is for Falco Lombardi.... and this one is for my friend, James McCloud!!!!

Rock Crusher:I CAN'T BELIEVE I LOST TO THIS..... SCUM!!!!!

Vulcain: TIME.... TO.... BURN.... BUNNY.....

Peppy Hare: It's too hot... my ship can't take it....

Vulcain: BOIL.... THE.... BUNNY!!! FIRE.... BURN!!!!

Peppy Hare: Sorry guys, I gotta sit this one out!

Vulcain: FIRE.... BURN!! FIRE.... BURN!!! MWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Peppy Hare: Never give up.... trust your instincts!!!

Wolf O'Donnell: No way.... I don't believe it!!!

Andross: Guess who?

Wolf O'Donnell: You killed my friend Leon... and destroyed our base at Sargasso. You've taken everything away from me.... now you'll finally pay.

Andross: Those tin cans are no match for me....

*SMASH*

Wolf O'Donnell: Arghhh!!! My plasma cannons... they're not functioning.... you ruined my ship!

Andross: NOW YOU WILL FEEL TRUE PAIN!!!!

Wolf O'Donnell: No.... this is impossible! I AM STAR WOLF!!! I.... CAN'T.... LOSE!!!!!!







Andross: Only I have the brains to rule Lylat...

PHASE COMPLETE

SHIPS DESTROYED: 5







Miotas- Venomian Fighter




Secura- Leon Powalski




Skooma Addict- Rock Crusher




Death is Yonder- Peppy Hare




Beskar- Wolf O'Donnell

James McCloud: Don't ever give up, my son. Use your remaining time wisely....

Alive: (12/44)

Autolycus
Chaotix
civplayah
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Diana Abnoba
hell_hound
Khazaar
Nightbringer
TheFlax
Psychonaut
wideyedwanderer
Yaseikhaan


Dead: (30/44)

Askthepizzaguy- James McCloud
pevergreen- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
Death is Yonder- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
civplayah- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
choxorn- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
shlin28- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
Chaotix- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Pinman- Attack Carrier pilot- Attack Carrier
Yaropolk- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Seon- Venomian Assault Force Fighter Pilot
Romanic- Falco Lombardi
God Emperor- Vemonian Assault Force Fighter Pilot
Beefy187- Rob64
Renata- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Frozen in Ice- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Joooray- Krystal
ArpeggiateTHIS- Bill Grey
Nictel- Vemonian Assault Force Fighter Pilot
Double A- Slippy Toad
Krill- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Johnhughthom- Katt Monroe
Choxorn- Fox McCloud
pevergreen- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
landlubber- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Alexander the pretty good- Vemonian Assault Force Fighter Pilot
Miotas- Vemonian Assault Force Fighter Pilot
Secura- Leon Powalski
Skooma Addict- Rock Crusher Pilot- Rock Crusher
Death is Yonder- Peppy Hare
Beskar- Wolf O'Donnell

Out of this Dimension: (6/44)

White_Eyes:D- No vote 3 days in a row.
Rob_the_Celt- No vote 3 days in a row.
merciary- No vote 3 days in a row.
YLC- No vote 3 days in a row.
Stuck in Pi- No vote 3 days in a row.
shlin28- No vote 3 days in a row.


Replacements:

Death is Yonder replaces Remake20
pevergreen replaces White_Eyes
civplayah replaces Winston Hughes
choxorn replaces Splitpersonality
Chaotix replaces merciary
Shlin28 replaces Rob_the_Celt
Psychonaut replaces YLC

No more replacement players.

[Romanic]

But it was my personal goal to recruit Pigma... I was always going to pursue such a course, and was ready to tear my hair out until I got the tip-off; are you genuinely saying that Pizza gave me an ability and personal goal to recruit a role that was going to tear our group apart?

Ugh... no I'm not saying that. It's news to me that your PG was to recruit Pigma. Did you mention it before in the game thread? If you did, well... I missed it.

Still I think it's possible. It would be a brilliant twist in the game. Who knows with Pizza.

I don't think Pigma was scanned by anyone but me, and that was merely to see if a player was Pigma or not... so that'd be a 'no'.

If you have any way to scan Pigma, I suggest you do so, especially if you can scan for neutrality. However, I'm not sure how useful a ship scanning ability would be in this case.

Btw, I know that Pigma is the odd day vigilante and that he killed Choxorn (Fox). Besides the suspicions I already stated, I found that Beskar slipped in the game thread yesterday.

Post #1599

still leaves ATPGood, Chaotix, Wideyewander,Miotas, Hell_Hound unaccounted for. I hope Pigma's attack, takes one of them out.

Of course he edited his post after Choxorn noticed, but his post contains the unedited version:

Post #1619

Originally Posted by Beskar
I hope Pigma's attack, takes one of them out.

What?

You have to look at everything Pigma said in the QT. Look for hints on how eager/unwilling he was to kill people.

Pinman knew Beskar was Star Wolf, so we can assume they have a scanner, unless Pigma was told Day 4 who Beskar was, in which case, he could have told Pinman. If they do have a scanner, then it's possible that they would have scanned Choxorn and knew him to be Fox. So have a careful look at what happened on Night 9 when Fox was killed by Pigma - Who proposed the kill, how Pigma reacted etc...

[Romanic]

Blah, what a night. We lost Peppy, Wolf and Leon. I guess that clarifies our questions about Star Wolf being on our side.

At least Peppy got Skooma (Rock Crusher), if that's any consolation.

How many are they? We never heard of Rock Crusher before last night.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Ouch.

[Beskar]

Everything in my previous posts were correct at the time. Any edits were to fix typing errors, etc. Anyway, good luck.

[Double A]

What the HELL just happened!?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Due to what seems to be an unintentional rule break, two players are hereby asked to refrain from posting anymore, until the game is over.

Final reminder to everyone: Do not communicate outside of thread. Next time, it could result in a ban from my games. I'm very sorry.

[autolycus]

Ok, so we seem to have at least 4 androssians left (Shogun Droid, Vulcain, Gorgon, and Andross himself). Based on Beskar's results, this seems to provide proof that one or more of them are converts from being Venomian. This helps to corroborate my ability, because it's a clear indication of a converter. Our top priority clearly needs to be tracking down Andross, however. I am fairly convinced at this point that Andross is none other than WideyedWanderer. He hasn't been scanned by Beskar, and was scanned on night 2 by Double A as non-neutral. It's possible he's a vanilla Cornerian, but I don't think it's likely.
Vote: WideyedWanderer

[Double A]

Whatever, lynch him. He's probably Cornerian, but I don't care anymore. Last night had 5 deaths, that's just insane.

[Frozen In Ice]

So Shogun Droid, Gorgon, Vulcain, and Andross are still alive, with only 12 people left. It appears Wolf was ???, so hopefully the Star Wolf scanner survived and can tell us about Autolycus.

Basically the only way the town has a chance is if Andross or Vulcain gets lynched today (Shogun Droid and Gorgon seem to work together so taking out one of them won't reduce the kill count). That should reduce the number of kills tomorrow night to 2 which would put us at 9 people total, 3 mafia. If then the other mafia of the Andross + Vulcain pair gets lynched that would give them only one kill from Shogun and Gorgon. That means two days from now that would be 7 people left, 2 mafia. It looks like it's still possible for the town, but we gotta be perfect from now on!

[TheFlax]

How many are they? We never heard of Rock Crusher before last night.

I'll echo Romanic's sentiments here. We know of three bad guys and there are only three unscanned people remaining (IIRC), unless autolycus wasn't scanned. Even if he wasn't, things don't fit. Was Skooma Addict scanned?

Perhaps we have been putting too much faith in scans? Not to disparage Beskar, but we should probably look over the thread again and bring up possibly new suspects.

Chaotix tweaked my gut in the last rounds. More on this when I have time to check the thread.

[Renata]

Due to what seems to be an unintentional rule break, two players are hereby asked to refrain from posting anymore, until the game is over.

Final reminder to everyone: Do not communicate outside of thread. Next time, it could result in a ban from my games. I'm very sorry.

I just want to bend the rules a little more to say one of them was me. I wanted to do more for the game than I have, and now I can't due to my own fault. I'm sorry, townies. Good luck.

(posted with permission)

[Romanic]

Errrr, okay.... ??? was Wolf, so it destroys my theory about Pigma being the odd day vigilante.

Whatever, lynch him. He's probably Cornerian, but I don't care anymore. Last night had 5 deaths, that's just insane.

No, AA, just no!!!

Listen to James McCloud: "Don't ever give up"

Last night we lost four, but we DOUBLED our Androssian kills in a night! We're gonna get them, don't despair.

I'll echo Romanic's sentiments here. We know of three bad guys and there are only three unscanned people remaining (IIRC), unless autolycus wasn't scanned. Even if he wasn't, things don't fit. Was Skooma Addict scanned?

Skooma was listed a neutral by Beskar in his recent posts, but I'm not sure when he was scanned. Maybe a look back at the thread will reveal more details.

Last time I checked, there was 4 unscanned players left: autolycus, Chaotix, hell_hound and wideyedwanderer.

Perhaps we have been putting too much faith in scans? Not to disparage Beskar, but we should probably look over the thread again and bring up possibly new suspects.

We definitely need to do that. Neutral players who have been scanned early are more likely to have been converted, so knowing when someone was scanned plays should play a big part in who we should focus on. Obviously the 3 remaining Star Wolf have better insights than everyone else.

[Nightbringer]

Well, I'm glad that we can all stop trying to kill star wolf. btw, i meant vengeance for letting fox die, not actually killing fox.
Anyway, I think we have a couple of options left. 1 is to continue going through the list of unscanneds. autolycus looks very fishy to me, his role claim pm is very flawed and inconsistent with the general format. He needs to either admit to the editing he has done or be lynched. or did we get a good scan result on him?
the other option is to go back and look at people we have scan results on already. The problem is this is a much larger list and surely at least one androssian is on the unscanned list. My bet is still no autolycus being scum due to his fake looking role pm.

[Skooma Addict]

Errrr, okay.... ??? was Wolf, so it destroys my theory about Pigma being the odd day vigilante.



No, AA, just no!!!

Listen to James McCloud: "Don't ever give up"

Last night we lost four, but we DOUBLED our Androssian kills in a night! We're gonna get them, don't despair.



Skooma was listed a neutral by Beskar in his recent posts, but I'm not sure when he was scanned. Maybe a look back at the thread will reveal more details.

Last time I checked, there was 4 unscanned players left: autolycus, Chaotix, hell_hound and wideyedwanderer.



We definitely need to do that. Neutral players who have been scanned early are more likely to have been converted, so knowing when someone was scanned plays should play a big part in who we should focus on. Obviously the 3 remaining Star Wolf have better insights than everyone else.

I wouldn't be so sure my feathered friend. It took you this long to accidentally stumble into killing me, much like my brother, the mighty pinman, by sheer luck. You incompetent cornerians couldn't even get Star Wolf right, WE had to do it for you. Pathetic. Think it's a coincidence ??? killed Fox? Foolish fools! You should know better then oppose Lord Andross. Falco, if you beg me nice enough, I may ask my Lord to make you a deal. Our Lord is a merciful one. Hopefully you won't outlive your usefulness like the last one.

[Pinman]

Surprised Guys?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Vote: Chaotix

Chaotix or WEW need to go right now.

[Double A]

Errrr, okay.... ??? was Wolf, so it destroys my theory about Pigma being the odd day vigilante.



No, AA, just no!!!

Listen to James McCloud: "Don't ever give up"

Last night we lost four, but we DOUBLED our Androssian kills in a night! We're gonna get them, don't despair.



Skooma was listed a neutral by Beskar in his recent posts, but I'm not sure when he was scanned. Maybe a look back at the thread will reveal more details.

Last time I checked, there was 4 unscanned players left: autolycus, Chaotix, hell_hound and wideyedwanderer.



We definitely need to do that. Neutral players who have been scanned early are more likely to have been converted, so knowing when someone was scanned plays should play a big part in who we should focus on. Obviously the 3 remaining Star Wolf have better insights than everyone else.

Dude, we doubled our kills to TWO. That's like saying at least we came in second in the drag race.

I'm just pissed because I STILL don't know wtf happened.

[Choxorn]

Skooma, you know that we'd suspected you for several rounds, and were going to get around to killing you eventually, right? :P

Anyway, it's clear that at least one scanned Venomian isn't actually Venomian. My top suspects for that are TheFlax, Khazaar, and Yaseikhaan. But for now, go lynch wideyed, the scummy *bleep* he is.

[Secura]

I knew that was coming straight away, it was so transparantly obvious; perhaps now the peanut gallery will finally buck up and understand what Beskar and I have been saying all along... we're on your side.

Beskar is prohibited from posting, but he asked me to pass on a message; Andross is in the list of unscanned roles, so go back and look over them all, and go through them. Search their posts, find the inconsistencies and then lynch those lurking ********.

It may well seem like an impossible mission, what with Star Fox all dead and Star Wolf without their two leaders, but the game is still very much in your hands guys... you can still win.

[Nightbringer]

I knew that was coming straight away, it was so transparantly obvious; perhaps now the peanut gallery will finally buck up and understand what Beskar and I have been saying all along... we're on your side.

Beskar is prohibited from posting, but he asked me to pass on a message; Andross is in the list of unscanned roles, so go back and look over them all, and go through them. Search their posts, find the inconsistencies and then lynch those lurking ********.

It may well seem like an impossible mission, what with Star Fox all dead and Star Wolf without their two leaders, but the game is still very much in your hands guys... you can still win.

autocylus is still very scummy in my opinion, and with no one giving evidence of his authenticity he is my top candidate.
vote: autocylus
WEW sounds like a decent choice as well though, and my vote will of course switch if i hear a scan report on autocylus confirming his identity

[Choxorn]

There's still the possibility that Auto is Pepper. Secura, was Beskar actually the scanner or not? If no, did the actual scanner scan Autolycus and find him to not be Pepper?

[wideyedwanderer]

Ok, so we seem to have at least 4 androssians left (Shogun Droid, Vulcain, Gorgon, and Andross himself). Based on Beskar's results, this seems to provide proof that one or more of them are converts from being Venomian. This helps to corroborate my ability, because it's a clear indication of a converter. Our top priority clearly needs to be tracking down Andross, however. I am fairly convinced at this point that Andross is none other than WideyedWanderer. He hasn't been scanned by Beskar, and was scanned on night 2 by Double A as non-neutral. It's possible he's a vanilla Cornerian, but I don't think it's likely. Then you're going to feel very wrong after I die.
Vote: WideyedWanderer

It'd be one thing if you said something like, "I think wideyedwanderer could be andross." But you said, "I'm fairly convinced he's andross." Sounds to me like you're trying a little too hard to blame someone, especially since you don't have any argument against me except for saying I was scanned by Double A. If you were really "fairly convinced" I'm andross, you'd have more proof. Not to mention, you role revealed quickly after people first started getting suspicious of you. Feeling the heat? (Yet, the mafia still chose not to kill him last night? Hm...) Vote: Autolycus. I don't even care if I die. The town is lost.

[wideyedwanderer]

Blah, what a night. We lost Peppy, Wolf and Leon. I guess that clarifies our questions about Star Wolf being on our side.

At least Peppy got Skooma (Rock Crusher), if that's any consolation.

How many are they? We never heard of Rock Crusher before last night.

Let me get this straight. Wolf killed Fox, the most important townie in the game, and we're supposed to be sad that Wolf is dead?

Vote: Chaotix

Chaotix or WEW need to go right now.

Yeah! Kill wideyedwanderer! We need to kill more Cornerians because the mafia just aren't doing it fast enough!

EDIT: My original sentence didn't make sense, I added "...that wolf is dead?" to make it clear what I was saying.

[Choxorn]

Let me get this straight. Wolf killed Fox, the most important townie in the game, and we're supposed to be sad that Wolf is dead?

Yes. I'm pissed at him for killing me too, but he was still helping us kill Andross, at least at the end.

Great job, Star Wolf team, now can you gaiz actually start killing Androssians? ~:p

[Chaotix]

Well this rather crushes my theory on Star Wolf and now I feel like an arse.

Still, Wolf was revealed as the ??? killer, which means he DID kill Fox and a whole bunch of townies. I'd say in the end, he did more damage then help with all that unnecessary vig-killing.

OH, and that also means he killed my original role. Yeah, I'm not sorry he died.

Vote: wideyedwanderer

Best case we got at the moment.

[naut]

Skooma, you know that we'd suspected you for several rounds, and were going to get around to killing you eventually, right? :P

Anyway, it's clear that at least one scanned Venomian isn't actually Venomian. My top suspects for that are TheFlax, Khazaar, and Yaseikhaan. But for now, go lynch wideyed, the scummy *bleep* he is.

Khaan is Cornerian.

WEW is innocent:

Day three tally

shlin28- (12) Renata, Secura, autolycus, Double A, Nightbringer, landlubber [did not unvote], Beskar, DIY, Seon, Joooray, Diana Abnoba, hello_hound

WEW- (10) JHT, Chaotix, Pinman, miotas, Romanic, Nightbringer, Skooma Addict, Yaseikhaan, Alexander the Pretty Good, Beefy187
Krill- (2) TheTheFlax, Yaropolk
Rob_the_Celt- (1) God Emperor
JHT- (1) WEW
God Emperor (1) Khazaar
YLC (1) shlin28

abstain- (1) Krill

Did Not Vote: (9) Frozen in Ice, merciary, Nictel, Rob_the_Celt, splitpersonality, Stuck in Pi, White_Eyes:D, Winston Hughes, YLC

He was voted by both confirmed Mafioso. And 2 suspects. Chaotix and Nightbringer.

Autolycus was voted by Pinman day 1 (2?), unlikely Mafia. Lying yes. Mafia no.

[naut]

Those who did NOT vote Beefy this day, kindly explain your position? I see this almost the opposite of Beskar. It's much easier for the mafia to "get it right" in a situation like that than it is for a townie to do so.



Edit: Excluding WEW whom I think is town, that would be Diana, Chaotix, Psychonaut, Khazaar, Autolycus, Nightbringer (or maybe CDF).

I know you can't respond, but my position here was voting for Skooma. THE MAFIA!

Thanks for your thoughts on the voting patterns. It's clarified for me who the mafia is. WEW is not, he was quick to jump on the Pinman vote, before it turned into a wagon. Chaotix has constantly been voting innocents, and obvious innocents at that.

Vote: Chaotix

EVERY REMAINING CORNERIAN/VENOMIAN/STAR WOLF MEMBER VOTE CHAOTIX.

Second. Autolycus's claim could mean he's forged a cover PM, maybe not. It shouldn't be ignored. Nightbringer's posts are scummy as all that is holy, and thus I'm willing to paper over this for now.

Thirdly Diana Abnoba is also Andross. Boom. Done and dusted.