The 500km Elephant Fence

[phonicsmonkey]

"From Aleppo in the North to Gaza in the South an "iron curtain" has descended across the Continent. Behind that line lie all the capitals of the ancient states of Asia. Baghdad, Jedda, Delhi and Beijing; all these famous cities and the populations around them lie in what I must call the Timurid sphere, and all are subject, in one form or another, not only to Timurid influence but to a very high and in some cases increasing measure of control from Elephants."

roll up roll up and see the incredible Venetian blind stopping the Elephants of Timur from invading the holy land

see as the greedy beasts stick their trunks into the peanut-filled forts and are roasted by flaming catapult ammo for their trouble...

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this is what I did while I waited for Columbus to get his act together

[Askthepizzaguy]

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"From Aleppo in the North to Gaza in the South an "iron curtain" has descended across the Continent. Behind that line lie all the capitals of the ancient states of Asia. Baghdad, Jedda, Delhi and Beijing; all these famous cities and the populations around them lie in what I must call the Timurid sphere, and all are subject, in one form or another, not only to Timurid influence but to a very high and in some cases increasing measure of control from Elephants."

roll up roll up and see the incredible Venetian blind stopping the Elephants of Timur from invading the holy land

see as the greedy beasts stick their trunks into the peanut-filled forts and are roasted by flaming catapult ammo for their trouble...



this is what I did while I waited for Columbus to get his act together

Good post!

Just a suggestion: I tend to wrap spoilers around the image so that the thread looks better and loads quicker, and all the initial text is viewable without scrolling, just like I wrap spoilers around quotes so the thread is more readable.

Good lord, Poland and Spain have empires. The AI never gets empires on my version (original).

[phonicsmonkey]

I gave them TONS of money - they are my axis of evil buddies

EDIT: Woo hoo, post 100 and all of them flippant

[Askthepizzaguy]

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I gave them TONS of money - they are my axis of evil buddies

I don't know how to put things in spoiler tags - such a n00b - tell me and I'll edit

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P.S> is that the turn number or the year???

[phonicsmonkey]

it's the year, took this one really slow as I wanted to get to the New World

I still got too bored to carry on though, haven't seen it yet!

[Askthepizzaguy]

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it's the year, took this one really slow as I wanted to get to the New World

I still got too bored to carry on though, haven't seen it yet!

I was about to say... I mean, I've seen people with crazy turn numbers before, but this is ridiculous. By turn 1400 people will be living on Mars.

My math may be a little off, depending on how many years per turn you are moving at.

EDIT: You may have 100 posts, but as of 3:54 AM Eastern Time USA, I have 9 separate posts at the top of the forum page. Bwahahaha. And I'm on topic in each thread.

(sadly) ....I don't have a life.

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Yes, more unsolicited opinion from the Pizza man.

[4th Dimension]

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"From Aleppo in the North to Gaza in the South an "iron curtain" has descended across the Continent. Behind that line lie all the capitals of the ancient states of Asia. Baghdad, Jedda, Delhi and Beijing; all these famous cities and the populations around them lie in what I must call the Timurid sphere, and all are subject, in one form or another, not only to Timurid influence but to a very high and in some cases increasing measure of control from Elephants."

roll up roll up and see the incredible Venetian blind stopping the Elephants of Timur from invading the holy land

see as the greedy beasts stick their trunks into the peanut-filled forts and are roasted by flaming catapult ammo for their trouble...

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this is what I did while I waited for Columbus to get his act together

So the idea is to trap the in the forts and them crush them with force owerwhelming while forts don't allow them to escape?
Genious!

[Sentinel]

I also found that they very rarely attack these forts, even when garrisoned with 1 unit of town militia.
In one of my campaigns I used a wall of about 8 forts, built through the middle of one of their invasions. Not to stop them, but to divide them into two smaller groups that were easier to deal with.

[Skott]

Okay, to clarify the tactic.. they dont normally attack forts and avoid them but when they do attack them only garrison the fort with one unit, which they will easily win and then enter, but then become stuck inside the fort because they wont leave it afterwards? That right?

[Askthepizzaguy]

So the idea is to trap the in the forts and them crush them with force owerwhelming while forts don't allow them to escape?
Genious!

Wait... is it "genious" or "ingenious"?

While we are on the subject, is it "flammable" or "inflammable"? "Telligent" or "intelligent"?

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Words are evil, we must shun them.

[John_Longarrow]

Pizzaguy

That is a very tuitive question!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizzaguy

That is a very tuitive question!

See? Some people got the joke.

[Slug For A Butt]

My apologies PizzaGuy.
I just get that used to seeing crap grammar on boards by people that should know better.
Please accept my apology and admission of thicknissity.

EDIT: Yes... Thicknissity SHOULD be a word, it's in my revised dictionary. Revised with a ballpoint pen.

[4th Dimension]

Wait... is it "genious" or "ingenious"?

While we are on the subject, is it "flammable" or "inflammable"? "Telligent" or "intelligent"?

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Words are evil, we must shun them.

This isn't my language, sooo....

[Askthepizzaguy]

This isn't my language, sooo....

True. I believe it is public domain, and anyone can use it.
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I train all of my soldiers to defend themselves against attackers armed with fresh fruit.

[4th Dimension]

And what's best of all here on Internet it can't sue you for gross abuse if it's grammar and raping of it's spelling.

[GFX707]

True. I believe it is public domain, and anyone can use it.
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I train all of my soldiers to defend themselves against attackers armed with fresh fruit.

Last time I checked it belonged to the English.

[phonicsmonkey]

So the idea is to trap the in the forts and them crush them with force owerwhelming while forts don't allow them to escape?
Genious!

that's it buddy - like shooting fish in a barrel

I also found that they very rarely attack these forts

in my limited experience they can't help themselves from attacking them - as you can see in my screeny THREE of their stacks have snapped up the bait

the only issue I had here was having enough movement points to get to all three forts in one turn with my elephant-toasting army of trebuchets and catapults

maybe I'll replay the battle later and chuck some pics up here of the result so everyone can have a good old laugh at the charred elephant carcasses

[phonicsmonkey]

as promised

here they are waiting to be fried...

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and although they left the fort (for the first time in my experience), it didn't make much difference. Mmmm, flame-grilled...

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[Askthepizzaguy]

as promised

here they are waiting to be fried...

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and although they left the fort (for the first time in my experience), it didn't make much difference. Mmmm, flame-grilled...

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BWAHAHAHA
Fools!

Here they are when they enter the fort

Here they are after you toast them

[joe4iz]

I must admit to not having done this. Nor do I think I will try it. I enjoy letting them seige my towns for the fight...especially if I win.

Generally, I give Jeruselum or Antioch to an ally and will try to hold Acre.

I used to do this in RTW but after one of the patches, the AI will "bounce" out of the fort and resume where they were going. I find it funny (not in a humorous way) that you could do this. Good use of an exploit...very creative.

Did each stack occuppy a fort and then stay there? If not then I would think you may trap one or two stacks, but then they would move on. I guess you have to be careful about the position for attack or you will attack two stacks accidently.

If another stack is there, isn't there a chance that your units could get stuck and not move out?

[avery123]

Hi phonicsmonkey,

on yr pic executing the elephant fort barbeque, i notice that yr fort only has 1 gate.
I assumed forts always had 2 gates?

?????

[RemusAvenged]

Great post, I love the fort wall, I've built a few too that look like the Great Wall, in the Middle East like yours and then another up in the Steppes. Oh how they remind me of BI.

Even if the AI doesn't actually occupy the fort, I believe that's a 1.2 fix, you can still wall off the stacks from each other and then pick them apart. I've gone as far as to create zoos so that future generations can marvel at the warrior peoples of the past. Sometimes though the animals try and break loose and have to be put down.

Too bad the AI isn't smart enough to pull a Blitzkrieg on these Maginot lines. Giving the AI too much credit I'll some times create double rows of forts just in case. Otherwise all you would have to do is sack one fort and move through the hole you've created.

[Gray Beard]

In the Kingdom expansions I've found that the Byzantine flamethrower unit (Unlike the cannons mounted on elephants these really existed) do a wonderful job on the Timurids. I set them up like archers behind and to one side of a group of speamen and when the elephants hit the spears I run the flame throwers around roast the flank. The Elephants run amok and leave the field of battle trailing smoke like a Fiat

[supadodo]

and although they left the fort (for the first time in my experience), it didn't make much difference. Mmmm, flame-grilled...

Actually, AI leaving forts is perfectly normal. If the battle odds are heavily against you which judging from your army composition, it is, the AI will happily stroll out to engage you. But since forts are so darn small, those elephants must have had a hard time coming out.

[phonicsmonkey]

I think maybe they venture out more often in 1.2

this save game was from an old campaign I originally played in 1.1 (with one of Carl's problemfixers). I fought four or five battles like this and in no instance did they leave the fort, just sat there getting pummelled

when I re-fought the battle it was in 1.2 - they immediately rushed out the front of the fort......and then just sat there getting pummelled

to be fair to them, they did charge a few horses into my pavises. didn't help them much though as by the time they reached them they'd been thinned out by cross-fire and fiery rocks landing on their heads

it's pretty funny by the way to watch elephants running amok inside a fort - particularly if they start outside and run back through the gates while the rest of the force is trying to exit

hehe

[rebelscum]

those elephants must have had a hard time coming out.

Yes elephants are often closet 'gay; for years before eventually breaking down and telling their families, who most often have known about it since barbar was the age of six and would not be told from putting on mummies make up.
Please catch up on a long running elephant post.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=40780