King of the Romans OOC thread XI

[OverKnight]

I've been using Jens as a governor since he was unclaimed, I think he maxed out the noble in rule line.

[Stuperman]

I've got the save, fighting

[Stuperman]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1278-2.zip

Fought both sets of Sicilians and moved as close to Naples as I could. Ransomed prisoners 1st time, accepted, second was all pavice xbow, so I executed cause I didn't want to fight them at the walls.

[econ21]

Up to three! FH confirmed through PM that his deal emoticon was a "yes" vote.

OK, make that four. A tavern is the kind of place Elberhard would hang out.

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Especially with his new wife...

[OverKnight]

As I have stated many, many times, Matthias is a Chancellor not a matchmaker.

Perhaps the Princesses brought into the royal family are not ideal, but I didn't have a lot of candidates to choose from. When recruited, they both had four hearts, so I was kind of surprised that they turned out to be unpleasant.

Welcome to the world of arranged Political marriages.

[econ21]

Overknight - OOC, just to clarify - I am delighted that Elberhard is married. It was a most pleasant surprise. And IC, Elberhard was moaning about it in a story just before he got hitched, so he can't complain too loudly. His wife, on the other hand, ....

[OverKnight]

Ah, yes. . .I have some small experience with a wretched wife. Be creative.

Edit: To tell the truth, I consider the two marriage alliances the best accomplishment of my term. We hadn't done them in the PBM so far and any political gains made with our reputation is tricky.

It wasn't until my AAR that I truly realized the utility and mechanics of a marriage alliance, which is why I pursued them.

[Privateerkev]

OK, make that four. A tavern is the kind of place Elberhard would hang out.

Especially with his new wife...

I'm not sure that the tavern would be quite the place for your wife...

Just kidding, I know your talking about getting away from her, not bringing her with. Its just easy to read it either way. Maybe I should use that as a selling point?

"The Tavern, you can't find love but you can escape from your arranged marriage!"

I figure I'll get to six later when more people log on. I can see AG leaping at it because he's been looking for more ways to RP as a dread duke. Heck, he's almost turned the Diet into a tavern.

*edit*

I think at the next Diet, we should each push forward personal legislation that demands that each character gets married just so we can see the next Chancellor break down and cry.

[econ21]

Edit: To tell the truth, I consider the two marriage alliances the best accomplishment of my term.

I was thinking the same. Your two terms have been an education to me in M2TW diplomacy (your previous term saw some very nifty work with the Papacy IIRC).

[AussieGiant]

OK's work in both terms have been nigh on incredible to me and I've told him that.

A TAVERN!!??

DID someone say a Tavern!!??

Good Lord, the Dread Duke and his thugs would never want such an environment to work in...WOOT!!

PK, you got my vote BOY!!??

[Tamur]

Taking the save, will post back in an hour or so.

[FactionHeir]

Meh, with Arnold around, his wife might pick up UnchasteWoman (and Elberhard possibly might get another epithet)

[AussieGiant]

Meh, with Arnold around, his wife might pick up UnchasteWoman (and Elberhard possibly might get another epithet)

Actually that's not a bad idea FH. I could hit on Elberhard's wife in the tavern...I'm sure we would have some fireworks there.


Actually Arnold never do that. He's actually very loyal. Hence his views on the Kaiser succession problem. He didn't care who was Kaiser, only that we need a clear decision and that decision had to be VERY clear to everyone.

[FactionHeir]

Well, considering Arnold would be disgruntled over being passed over twice for a wife, he could see Elberhard's as his for the time being. Dread and all. The priest might not like it, but his two "friends" wouldn't mind.

[Privateerkev]

OK's work in both terms have been nigh on incredible to me and I've told him that.

A TAVERN!!??

DID someone say a Tavern!!??

Good Lord, the Dread Duke and his thugs would never want such an environment to work in...WOOT!!

PK, you got my vote BOY!!??

Something told me you'd jump at that one. I told you a while ago that you needed more outlets for Arnold's dreadness. And I am pretty sure econ didn't mean Ebelhard was bringing his wife to a tavern. She is English royalty. But it would be amusing to see how she would take to scenes of Grom dragging unconscious people upstairs for things we best not mention. ^_^

Alright, we're at five. Who wants to push us over the top?

[Cecil XIX]

That'll be me, though I imagine I'll get more use as a reader than a participant. Should be fun.

[Privateerkev]

That'll be me, though I imagine I'll get more use as a reader than a participant. Should be fun.

Houston, we have lift off. Time to go and build the dread duke's playpen!

*runs off giddy as a school boy*

[Tamur]

Battle fought (and won). I got the initial odds screenie, but somehow I didn't get the final results. Augh!

At any rate, it was a tough one, lost abt. 350 men, they lost 800 or so. My spears took the brunt of it. The difference was three good cavalry charges, and the Captain going down at the same time their left flank caved in.

Save is here:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1278-3.zip

[Tamur]

Ha, I can tell this tavern is going to get one heck of a workout. Great idea PK. I'd send Fritz in right now but his worse half is eye-weary and headed to sleep. Looking forward to wandering in sometime soon.

[FactionHeir]

I'll start posting in the tavern during the diet session. Hans is still in Outremer.

[AussieGiant]

Guy's,

I really think everyone should just get involved whenever you want to contribute in the Tavern.

I know it's a but urealistic but the Role play options are being increasingly impressive given how long this game has gone on for.

I would real just jump into it rather than think you can't because of distance. It's a game so what the hell.

The tavern is not really going to work with proxies. It's too personal.

Arnold is meant to be in a forest a 1000 miles east of the tavern but I don't really care and no one else seems to mind.

[Privateerkev]

Tamur: Thanks! Look forward to seeing you in there.

FH: Just jump in like you would in the Diet.

AG: Your absolutely right. 2 years pass for every turn. We've mostly agreed to just warp into the Diet when we want so I think it should apply to the Tavern as well.

Like the story thread, the tavern is optional. But, if you want to do it, then just jump in and don't worry about the temporal warp.

[Stig]

Yesterday I played to 1302 and the results were quite interesting (note: I autoresolved everything, and sometimes didn't bother to reinforce), I other words it's not realistic

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Provinces:

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Ajaccio will be lost to Spain
Cagliari to the Moors
Rome to a rebellion (because I didn't bother fixing taxes and the like, this in real would never happen)
Florence to Sicily
Bologna to Hungary
Venice to Hungary
Genoa to France
Marseille to France
Milan to France
Zagred to Hungary
Bran to Hungary
Budapest to Poland
Breslau to Poland
Prague to Poland
Hamburg to Denmark
Dion to France
Edessa sacked by Mongols
Adana to Turks
Aleppo to a rebellion
Damascus to Egypt
Acre to Egypt
Antioch sacked by Mongols

Moscow is taken by the Teutonic Crusade, and even tho every leisure building is destroyed, Tax on Very High and it's abonded it won't rebel

Armies:

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The Imperial Army, the FHA and the SHA and the Teutonic Crusade army are the only armies still capable of doing anything. Tho the FHA lost half it's men near Breslau and the Imperial Army the same at Hamburg.

Characters (the fun part Aussiegiant )

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Arnold deserts to the Poles
Edmund Becker dies defending Budapest
Lothar dies defending Cagliari
Wolfgang dies defending Dijon
Those in Rome now die defending Florence
Helmut gets executed by the Pope
Ansehelm survives the same and is lonely in Russia, looking to get back to the Reich which takes ages.
All Outremer characters are killed by either Mongols or Egyptians:
Hans destroys a Mongol army against the odds, but dies in the following battle.
Jan and Mathias escape Edessa but get killed in Acre.
Dieter dies in Edessa
Jens becomes a glorious fool in a succesfull defence of Antioch, but gets killed by group of Mongols when they attack it.
Karl is cornered and killed by Mongols somewhere near Damascus.

That's about it, note again: it's highly unrealistic as I did those 22 something turns in about half an hour.

[econ21]

Yes, I've experienced something similar Stig.

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I think it is mainly due to taxes - if the Chancellor does not manage them, the Reich will fall due to rebellions. (Hence the Hummel impeachment.) The AI is more capable than in RTW, but we are so dominant, it is internal dissent that is the main challenge to us.

[Ituralde]

My worst fears have come true. Seems like my laptop is wrecked. The gfx chip is acting up and it would need a new motherboard to replace it, which is way beyond my budget right now. Since I'm moving next weekend my other PC is already at my parents, so if my girlfriends laptop hasn't been repaired by now, I won't have internet for the next week.

This comes at a bad time, since I initially planned on becoming Chancellor next term. With all this in mind, I will have to wait for the Diet session after the next one. Hopefully I'll have resolved my problems until then. I'll try to somehow get online for the next Diet session too though, I believe there are still some legal things that need sorting out. And I'd rather have Siegfried sort them out.

Once again sorry for my absence!

Ituralde

[econ21]

Ituralde - sorry to hear about your PC woes.

I believe there are still some legal things that need sorting out.

Yes, one is the issue of Conrad Salier's replacement as King of Outremer to be sorted out. He recommended Karl Zirn, but the decision is yours. If you go with KZ, then it would be helpful if you could authorise Elberhard (or someone else) to act as Steward of Outremer while Northnovas is away.

This is rather pressing as at the Diet, the King nominates Crusader Counts and can propose 3-6 motions.

[TinCow]

If the Tavern thing goes ahead, I would like to suggest that it exist in Florence. First of all, Florence is near Rome, so it makes sense to be 'close' to the Diet. Second, Lothar has been (and will be) devoting all build queues in Florence to the tavern line until a Pleasure Palace is complete. I believe this would be a fitting IC spot for the Tavern.

[Privateerkev]

The tavern is up and running. It is a thread in the throne room. I eagerly await for Lothar to make his entrance because him, Arnold, and Ebelhard were who I had in mind when I thought of the idea. As for moving it, I like that it is by the Diet. That way we shuttle back and forth before and after Diet meetings. Also, some players only like to RP that they are in Rome during Diet sessions and having the Tavern in Rome might entice such players to join in even if it is only once every couple weeks.

On the other hand, we already pretend that there is a temporal rift when it comes to space/time so I guess it doesn't really matter if the Tavern is in Rome, Florence, or Timbuktu. Those that want to take part in it, will probably do so regardless of where I say it is. I think it being in Rome is probably more to do with my own anal-retentiveness to have it down the block from the Diet.

When I wake up and ingest some coffee, I might change the first post to read that its in Florence, but till then, its down the block from the Diet for now. ^_^

*edit*

Upon further thought, another reason I like that the Tavern is in Rome, is because of the neutral location. The Tavern should be a neutral spot where anyone, regardless of house or politics, can feel comfortable kicking back a pint. Not every character is going to want to go on holiday in Bavaria (especially not when someone becomes Duke. LOL) The idea of marrying the tavern in the thread to a structure that exists in the game does make sense to my anal-retentive side, but is secondary to my wish to provide a neutral environment that everyone would feel welcome in.

[OverKnight]

The report for 1278 has been updated.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=246

[OverKnight]

The report for 1280 is up. I have added a link to the save there.

May as well put it here too.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1280.zip