Grand Campaign Hotseat 2: The Rising Storm

[OverKnight]

Can anyone steer me in the direction of a good FAQ or thread on how to play a Hotseat PBM?

[deguerra]

excellent. cecil, you and I need to talk

[Privateerkev]

Can anyone steer me in the direction of a good FAQ or thread on how to play a Hotseat PBM?

There really isn't one yet. Basically, play like an SP game but talk a whole lot to the other players. Also, for better autoresolves, put your heavy infantry in the front of the stack. It makes a difference.

[Zim]

Can anyone steer me in the direction of a good FAQ or thread on how to play a Hotseat PBM?

Hmmm, there's a pbm FAQ but I'm not sure about a hotseat one. Since you play KOTR I know you know how to upload files.

The first time you download and play your turn, you'll need to come up with a password. When you finish the turn, hit end turn and a screen asking the next guy's password will come up. Hit esc to go to the menu, then save, then upload. Repeat continually, except after that you'll just type in the password you'd first used.

PK is right, diplomacy is big in these games, sometimes public (Council thread), more often private (pms).

[OverKnight]

Heh, I'm Turkey do I even have Heavy Infantry for the first 100 turns?



I'll spend some time poking around.

Passwords? Any restrictions on length or characters?

Edited: Nevermind, Zim got it.

[Privateerkev]

Passwords? Any restrictions on length or characters?

Probably something simple so you don't forget it like a certain someone who will remain Gibson...

Either way, Zim can reset it or change it to anything he wants so it's not too big of a deal anymore.

[Cecil XIX]

Don't know about any FAQs OK, but seeing as I'm participating in the first I can tell you how it's down.

1. Download the save from the filespace and load it up. All save files, when loaded, show Campaign status and password input screen.

2. Imput password, hit the enter button, and play campaign as normal. Note that in Hotseat campaigns there are no status messages at the start of the turn, except those that requre a yes/no choice. Also, every single battle is auto-resolved.

3. Once your turn is complete, hit enter and the password input screen for the next faction will appear. Save game, upload file, PM next in line. Remember that you must save when you are at the next player's password screen, or else the save file will show your password screen when loaded.

EDIT: Wow that took a while to type.

[OverKnight]

Question: Are there any rules for Crusade or Jihad?

IE, Can anyone call a crusade if they're able to do it ingame? Or is only the Pope allowed to call one?

In SP I like Crusades, but the thought of a horde of zero upkeep death stacks descending on my Sultanate from multiple Catholic Lands is a bit alarming.

[Privateerkev]

Zim has something vague about not taking too many settlements with one. I would prefer there be no rules with Crusades/Jihads because specific rules would A.) be hard to agree to, and B.) be even harder to enforce.

I say, if the game allows it, let it go. Because sooner or later someone will do it anyways. But that's me.

*edit*

By the way, to mister diplomacy over there! (Cecil)

Clear your PM box if you want a reply!

:D

[Zim]

That's something I've been wondering about. Although I warned against people using a single Crusade to conquer half the map (a la Askthepizzaguy), I'm loath to tell anyone not to use a regular game mechanic. I think heavy diplomacy will be the key to keep everyone from joining crusades against you, and possibly coordination with Ramses. Of course, you can always call a Jihad, without worrying about a pope-o-meter.

All I know is, that if someone's territory number jumps up by 10+ after crusading everywhere but the target, Venice is encouraging everyone to attack them. Think of it as an informal excommunication.

[Privateerkev]

That's something I've been wondering about. Although I warned against people using a single Crusade to conquer half the map (a la Askthepizzaguy), I'm loath to tell anyone not to use a regular game mechanic. I think heavy diplomacy will be the key to keep everyone from joining crusades against you, and possibly coordination with Ramses. Of course, you can always call a Jihad, without worrying about a pope-o-meter.

Yeah, I much rather figure out as a group what to do "in the game", rather than try to hammer out some sort of guideline. I say lets just set up some OOC rules to the game as a whole (which we have), then just let the game go, and see where it heads.

[deguerra]

im happy with informal rules. also, zim, youre welcome to sub for me anytime if i cannot make it, but I will try my utmost to keep you informed

[Zim]

Ok, deguerra.

To everyone, should you want the GM (me) or anyone else to sub for you in case of emergency (say, your computer dies for a couple days and you miss the deadline completely), tell me. I'll type up a list and that way emergencies will not screw over people's factions.

[Cecil XIX]

Room has been made. Looks like it's time for me to sort through all of Sigismund's old correspondence.

[Ramses II CP]

Well, it's just one of those things like Scotland-England. Eventually somebody's going to be on the bad side of a crusade. I knew that going in as a Muslim, but rest assured a united Islam will be a bad force to face if we answer a crusade with a jihad. Our mercs aren't as good as yours, but they're soooo cheap it's scary. By turn ten we could each have 3 or more stacks of mercs without abusing the jihad mechanic to capture huge territories.

[Zim]

Are you saying it will be a united Islam then, Ramses?

I actually think the Muslim factions have one advantage. While it is pretty much assured someone will declare a crusade on the Moors or the Levant, their are far more targets for Jihads, and the Muslims can use the threat of one to get the Christians to back off if they play their cards right.

[Ramses II CP]

Hah, until about 10 minutes ago there was only one Islam, so it was pretty united. :p

I expect OK to realize that if we're deep into a war with each other then the first crusade will be the last we live to see, but you know Antioch is the richest city in the world. Who's going to end up with it?

[OverKnight]

Actually, I'll be decamping all my forces and moving to southern Russia, as suggested by one of the posters in the Turks guide.

[Zim]

New rule,
Everyone has to abandon their starting provinces and move somewhere else far away on the map.

[deguerra]

bags italy!

[Zim]

Nah, Denmark can have Tbilisi.

Hey, what difficulty would people like this to be?

[deguerra]

will difficulty influence auto-reslove results?

[Ramses II CP]

Egypt will move to Rome, of course, and after evicting the current unsightly occupiers will expect her neighbors to be more peaceful.

AFAIK any changes to auto-resolve from difficulty will be universal and so irrelevant.

[gibsonsg91921]

Probably something simple so you don't forget it like a certain someone who will remain Gibson...

Either way, Zim can reset it or change it to anything he wants so it's not too big of a deal anymore.

I went back to my standard always-hotseat password for safety, and I already PMed it to Zim.

Hey, Mrs. Zim! Welcome to nerd-dom!

[Zim]

Ok guys, one more day has passed and no new players (not a complaint, we've had a ton of people coming into the game). How long should the cutoff date be for us to get started?

[Privateerkev]

We can bump the thead in the Citadel with an update and list of available factions. Then give it another day.

[FactionHeir]

Zim, you still need to send stuff

[Zim]

I just did.

One more day then, and I'll post a list of factions in Gibson's thread in the Citadel. I do have one person promising to check it out, so we may get at least one more.

Ok, we're starting this weekened, so if any important diplomatic deals need to be made, get them done soon!

[Cheetah]

I think we definitely need players for Russia, Milan and for the Moors. Byzantines can be played by the AI

TBH I would love to play both Russia and the Moors. Can I?

[Zim]

No.

I hope we get a few more as well, but we'll see.
On a side note, we have our second conflict. In addition to the Scottish/English conflict, which will most likely result in war, we have a German/Polish territory conflict, consisting of Germany's claims on lands east to them. Some things don't change, I suppose.

I think we definitely need players for Russia, Milan and for the Moors. Byzantines can be played by the AI

TBH I would love to play both Russia and the Moors. Can I?