Grand Campaign Hotseat 2: The Rising Storm

[Zim]

Allow me to rephrase that. You can change your faction to one of them, but no playing multiple factions.

[Cheetah]

I know that ofc. I was just jesting.

And I wont change Hungary.

[Privateerkev]

I Some things don't change, I suppose.

Don't tell me that you now have a house rule where we all have to be nice to each other IC.

"Medieval 2 Total Peace"

[Zim]

Don't tell me that you now have a house rule where we all have to be nice to each other IC.

"Medieval 2 Total Peace"

Actually, I was thinking of the "Germany claiming Polish lands" thing. Kaiser Heinrich is setting a precedent Germany will follow until after WW2.

[deguerra]

AFTER ww2?

can't we all just get along. There are 4 territories. Split them evenly. At least some of them are arguably german :D

[Zim]

Isn't that the last time Germany tried to invade Poland?

AFTER ww2?

can't we all just get along. There are 4 territories. Split them evenly. At least some of them are arguably german :D

[deguerra]

hence, until ww2. the german state is no longer claiming any currenly polish lands.

[Zim]

Right, hence they continued to do so until after WW2. If I just said "until WW2", in English it might sound as if I'm saying they stopped when WW2 started, rather than afterward.

I suppose "until the end of WW2" might have been more accurate, but I didn't think of it at the time.

[Ramses II CP]

Not today, but (Not to raise the spector of dead history) depending on how you view the East German state and the Soviet Union's collective intentions you could well call it a territorial ambition.

Which is not to impugn the modern German state, of course, as we're past all that.

[Zim]

Ok, after deguerra gets to response I say we have a moratorium on talk about English grammar. If we're going to talk off-topic, I'd say something more light-hearted is in order.

[Ramses II CP]

'...we're past all that.' not meant to suggest I'm German either. ;)

[Privateerkev]

can't we all just get along. There are 4 territories. Split them evenly. At least some of them are arguably german :D

People can claim all the territory they want. It's a matter of getting them and defending them that is difficult. ^_^

And it is a matter of getting others to respect your claims. Hence the massive importance of diplomacy. :D

[Zim]

Ok, I still need...just about everybody's password. We're starting in two days, so lets get that done as soon as possible.

[deguerra]

oh yes, it wasn't a serious post. I don't want Medieval 2 Total Peace either :D

Will PM you my password Will

People can claim all the territory they want. It's a matter of getting them and defending them that is difficult. ^_^

And it is a matter of getting others to respect your claims. Hence the massive importance of diplomacy. :D

[Zim]

I think it's interesting that in contrast with the Britannia game, most of the early public announcements in this one have been about divying up the rebel settlements.

[deguerra]

well theres not much else denmark can feasably do :D

[Zim]

Well, I think that's true of most factions, since there are relatively few bordering ones, and lots of rebel territory.

I admit to being surprised Denmark wasn't interested in Hamburg. Way back when I started playing the game, almost every single post in the guide thread suggested taking it first.

[FactionHeir]

Why Hamburg if you can take Nottingham

[Zim]

Or Stettin.

Bwahaha, if we do this right we can have every faction in the region concerned about Denmark.

[FactionHeir]

How about we catholic nations call an inofficial crusade on HRE, since they'll end up attacking the pope anyway. Pre-emptive strike and all

[deguerra]

I want good relations with the HRE. That is unlikely to happen if I take Hamburg. No, I think I will take Scandinavia and then see how things go. Perhaps crusade, perhaps look east

[Zim]

I don't know, then Sicily might lose their dramatic role of burning Rome to the ground to rescue the Pope.

[FactionHeir]

"Oops, I thought we were to burn the pope and rescue Rome"

deguerra: East? That best be Middle-East, not Eastern-Europe *shakes fist*

[deguerra]

Come now, I am sure there is enough of Russia for the both of us, especially with your extensive claims on your western border

[FactionHeir]

Sorry, gave half of Russia to another ally already

Y'know, dividing the world early means less squabbling later.

[deguerra]

I am uncertain Russia is the Pole's to give away. And there is probably still enough of it if we threesie it. In any case I am not making any claims here, just thinking out loud

[FactionHeir]

You get Helsinki, Riga, Moscow and Novgorod and Bulgar if you really want if you take Hamburg and Frankfurt and help us bash them HRE back to stone age

[Privateerkev]

Why Hamburg if you can take Nottingham

Hmm.. someone is smarting from rejection...

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As for divvying up rebel territory first, it is because it is easier than fighting a human. (trust me...)

Also, I still hold out hope for a player controlled Russia. (as well as all of the "normal" factions)

[FactionHeir]

So, anyone taking bets on which faction is the first to go?

I'm thinking its either Milan, England or Scotland.

[deguerra]

alternatively, i back the empire, smash the crap out of you and take it all?

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