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Craterus
06-12-2008, 04:30
Match Day 6
Poland 2 - 0 Austria
Croatia 1 - 3 Germany
scotchedpommes
06-12-2008, 04:46
Amazing, those lacklustre Turks. Ha.
Matchday 6 Prediction
Croatia 0-1 Germany (1800)
[Unsure about this one. Feel the Croats have to improve in both defence and attack. Don't know that
they'll be able to hold off the Germans, though as has been said, sections of the German back line, and
the goalkeeper specifically, look below par.]
Austria 1-2 Poland (2045)
[Admittedly I can't quite see where Poland's goals will come from, though hopefully they get Smolarek
into the game this time.]
Proletariat
06-12-2008, 05:06
Day 6
Germany 2 1 Croatia
Poland 2 0 Austria
Ser Clegane
06-12-2008, 09:12
Germany - Croatia 2 - 1
Poland - Austria 2 - 1
Ser Clegane
06-12-2008, 09:19
Nevermind - perhaps I should have read all other posts before making my post...
InsaneApache
06-12-2008, 10:08
Germany 2 - 0 Croatia Sure Bet
Poland 0 - 0 Austria
Gaius Scribonius Curio
06-12-2008, 10:48
Match Day 6:
Germany 2 - 0 Croatia (Sure Bet)
Austria 1 - 1 Poland
He who dares wins (lol, taking a massive risk here).
Shame for the Swiss to be out, it should have been the Czechs in their place, but it does at least mean that second place will be decided directly by how well the two teams still in it do on the last day. I always hate it when teams are eliminated by the result in the other game, especially if it's because of an already-qualified country fielding a weakened team. Anyone remember Spain in 98? They beat Bulgaria 7-1 in their final game but still went out because Nigeria were already through and so lost to a truly awful Paraguay side. Let's hope we don't see too many cases of that this year.
Oh, and congrats to Portugal. There's no reason at all for them to tire themselves out against the Swiss now, so hopefully they can keep improving and hit top gear just as the knockout stage gets underway.
Anyway, to my predictions for Friday:
Match Day 7:
Netherlands 3-2 France
Italy 1-1 Romania
With the Netherlands on form and Italy's defence the weakest I've ever seen I'm hoping for lots of goals on Friday. Netherlands - France could be a fantastic game if France bother to show up.
Match Day 6:
Germany 2-1 Croatia
Poland 2-1 Austria
LittleGrizzly
06-12-2008, 13:54
Match Day 6:
Germany 2 - 1 Croatia
Austria 1 - 2 Poland sure bet
atheotes
06-12-2008, 17:05
Match Day 6
Poland 2 - 0 Austria
Croatia 1 - 3 Germany
Damn Germany, 2 - 0 down already!
Edit: Nothing like the Germany of the World Cup, I expected they wouldn't be perfect after the friendly against Serbia, but not this bad.
Podolski! Thank you, get me some points (:laugh4:)
Afonso I of Portugal
06-12-2008, 18:55
The first surprise but well deserved for Croatia. They can play as outsiders for the trophy like Greece in 2004. It seams we are going to play Germany in the quarter-finals...:shame:
cegorach
06-12-2008, 18:59
Damn you Germans !
That makes our job much, much more difficult...
At least Podolski delivered what he promised - 'I will do what I can to help Poland' - good man !
scotchedpommes
06-12-2008, 19:02
Ten years after the Lyon result, too. Well done to them.
[They'd never be as much of a surprise as Greece, whatever happens. Not that they're bothered about
that; I'd suggest they want the world to know they're coming.]
Adrian II
06-12-2008, 19:04
Can someone please shoot Ballack? That man is a major irritant: all froth and no play.
I liked Croatia, but their win was due to desastrous German defending.
Germany what the...... this isn't how I like ya that was terrible. Looks like we need a new mortal enemy, I think Portugal will do.
Dutch_guy
06-12-2008, 19:16
Germany what the...... this isn't how I like ya that was terrible. Looks like we need a new mortal enemy, I think Portugal will do.
Yes, Portugal will do just fine.
Although if this means losing to them in the final of this year's tournament I think I'll pass.
:balloon2:
scotchedpommes
06-12-2008, 19:16
Looks like we need a new mortal enemy, I think Portugal will do.
That wasn't already established after the battle of Nuremberg? It's a shame that the draw is closed for
this tournament. Would really have liked to see the rematch before the final.
Yes, Portugal will do just fine.
Although if this means losing to them in the final of this year's tournament I think I'll pass.
:balloon2:
That is a law of nature can't be helped, Portugal always beats us :beam:
Makes them a perfect mortal enemy now that germany hasn't invaded us for a while
SUFFER
Adrian II
06-12-2008, 19:40
I don't know about all that.
But after tonight I do know who is Germany's mortal enemy ("Angstgegner") for years to come. First 1998, now this... :mellow:
Quintus.JC
06-12-2008, 19:51
Leader board updated.
Match Day 6
Poland 2 - 0 Austria
Croatia 1 - 3 Germany
The prediction was submitted after the kick-off, please make sure you to submit your final prediction earlier next time. :yes:
Quintus.JC
06-12-2008, 19:57
Match Day 6
Final Prediction
Netherlands 2 - 0 France
Italy 2 - 0 Romania
Come on Austria and Poland, make me proud! Pull out all the stops and play the most boring football you've ever played!
Adrian II
06-12-2008, 20:02
Come on Austria and Poland, make me proud! Pull out all the stops and play the most boring football you've ever played!Man, Austria's start is sensational..
LeftEyeNine
06-12-2008, 20:16
Man, Austria's start is sensational..
So? You say Austria had done its worst regarding what's expected out of them and he's asking for their best. I can see nothing wrong here.
:smoking:
Adrian II
06-12-2008, 20:19
So? You say Austria had done its worst reagrding what's expeced out of them and he's asking for their best. I can see nothing wrong here.
:smoking:What you say is quite profound, and probably erroneous (Joseph Conrad).
scotchedpommes
06-12-2008, 20:25
Well, football isn't fair to industrious and enthusiastic tournament hosts, is it? That was the kind of start
that had them 3-0 up against the Dutch. But a goal saps their confidence. They collapsed in that game,
and I can't see them coming back now if they don't get a goal before half-time.
LeftEyeNine
06-12-2008, 20:58
What you say is quite profound, and probably erroneous (Joseph Conrad).
chorus 2x: If u had my love and I gave u all my trust Would u comfort me Tell me baby (Jennifer Lopez)
chorus 2x: If u had my love and I gave u all my trust Would u comfort me Tell me baby (Jennifer Lopez)
Jennifer Lopez, in a football thread! Lord, let me die right now before I see something worse...
LeftEyeNine
06-12-2008, 21:10
Jennifer Lopez, in a football thread! Lord, let me die right now before I see something worse...
Better than Joseph Conrad, not ?
Just in case anyone missed it...
A link to... the Totalwar.org Euro2008 (English) skin from TosaInu (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1945293)
Adrian II
06-12-2008, 21:54
Heh, poetic justice. Guerreiro's goal was offside by a mile, and Webb's penalty decision did the Austrians a well-deserved favour.
Sure, you can be 'realistic' and say it wasn't the best football - and it wasn't. But for a nonqualified team Austria was sensational and showed great spirit, fighting to the very end. That's what it's all about. I'l take this kind of sportsmanship over boring 'professionalism' any day. Respect.
cegorach
06-12-2008, 22:00
Lewandowski, you :furious3::furious3::furious3:
If it is the last minute of the match you are NOT trying to rip off somone's T-shirt.
Austria vs. Boruc + 'Rogerski' - 1 : 1
Where this team go ? How could they lose to Austria for the God's sake.
I couldn't believe what I was watching - they were supposed to score AT LEAST twice losing nothing to have a chance, but moved like snails.
To be fair it should be 5 - 1 for Austria.:shame:
Adrian II
06-12-2008, 22:02
Lewandowski, you :furious3::furious3::furious3:
If it is the last minute of the match you are NOT trying to rip off somone's T-shirt.
Austria vs. Boruc + 'Rogerski' - 1 : 1
Where this team go ? How could they lose to Austria for the God's sake.
I couldn't believe what I was watching - they were supposed to score AT LEAST twice losing nothing to have a chance, but moved like snails.
To be fair it should be 5 - 1 for Austria.:shame:That's how I have felt about the Dutch team in the past 10 years. This too will pass, friend. Poland will never be lost.
cegorach
06-12-2008, 22:40
I am watching our football team for long enough.
Last time I seen them doing something meaningful was during the olimpic games in Barcelona ( 1992 ?).
This time it was worse than in last two World Cups.
In Korea-Japan we at least seen an ad hoc team made from reserve players who never played together demolishing the USA who were a suprise of the games in our group.
In Germany there was this tense game with Germany with lots of luck and very good saves to the last minute.
But now ??? The team played well, sometimes very, very well in the qualifying for the Euro, but when it started it turned into one big dissapointment, despite great games in time of one year, despite wonderful Leo 'the magician' and despite Roger who as we see was possibly the only real player except Boruc in the first half.
I think it would be better to replace our non existent defence with plastic dolls, so that these wouldn't stop Boruc from the work he does so well.
But what I really know about football.
Thankfully I am not a real football fan so I can always take the sarcastic stance and enjoy the jokes which will soon appear as always.
I am starting to wonder if I should invest time and money in 2012 - even if the games will be so close I would be able to hear the crowds cheering.
Or I could just blame the president for appearing there so certainly bringing bad luck - quite a good idea because I despise this man and he is no football fan present there only to beat our PM (a devoted fan and player for decades) who couldn't be in Vienna.... a lame excuse to say the least.
Sadly there is no scapegoat.
Now I can bet the team will play well against Croatia - they are always doing that if a game is meaningless, morons. And I think that Lewandowski should not come back.
LeftEyeNine
06-12-2008, 22:45
Poland does not have a good squad, besides that demigod named Boruc and Roger. Sorry.
Afonso I of Portugal
06-12-2008, 23:00
That is a law of nature can't be helped, Portugal always beats us :beam:
Makes them a perfect mortal enemy now that germany hasn't invaded us for a while
SUFFER
Mortal enemy eh? :laugh4: because of Nuremberg or because we always beat you? :laugh4:
It's a pitty if we can't play against Holland in this tournament but i'm sure you will find another "enemy"...like France tomorow. They need to win and it will be a hard game, don't you think? besides, i don't believe Holland can keep that fantastic physical condition for the entire tournament.
Match Day 6 Prediction
Netherlands 1 - 1 France
Italy 2 - 1 Romania
cegorach
06-12-2008, 23:05
Poland does not have a good squad, besides that demigod named Boruc and Roger. Sorry.
A good squad ? We don't have a squad, period - for that you need more than two-four players ( Bąk wasn't too bad + there was at least one person in the second half actually worth calling a football player).
Afonso I of Portugal
06-12-2008, 23:05
Poland does not have a good squad, besides that demigod named Boruc and Roger. Sorry.
They have one more name - Smolarek! very good player, but not in the tournament. Cegorach is right, Poland played very well in the qualifying for the Euro and they were somehow a promisse for the competition, but maybe some lack of experience will send them home early.
LittleGrizzly
06-12-2008, 23:52
Match Day 6
Netherlands 2 - 1 France
Italy 1 - 1 Romania
LittleGrizzly
06-12-2008, 23:54
Can't believe the results today, usually im happy for the underdogs to get a result but did they have to destroy my score in the process....
LeftEyeNine
06-12-2008, 23:54
Well I was trying to be "nice" with Poland. I had claimed that they are qualifying phase stars and that's all about it. Apparently I wasn't wrong.
Haha, when I heard that it was 2-0 for Croatia I was quite amused, I know I bet for our team but I was trying to be realistic, deep inside me I like seeing them lose because they're usually overhyped anyway. ~D
Louis VI the Fat
06-13-2008, 00:15
France - Holland
If only France would play with half of the fire of the Swiss or the Austrians...:shame:
On the upside, most of my wishes seem to have come true. 4-2-3-1 it is. Henry and Vieira are back in. And I sense that the players are rising up against Domenech. They want to play without the handbrake on, despite astrology-freak Domenech trying to play 0-0 every game, hoping for a sneaky 1-0 win in one game to win the goup. Led by Gallas, they are taking matters in their own hands.
No surprise, maybe, that it should be Gallas. He is used to Wenger and his artistic, attacking minded football. Sometimes I have these dreams of Wenger and what he couldn't do with a squad as talented as this. Just imagine...
I predict a belter by Henry and a solo by Ribéry to put Maradona to shame!
The Dutch counter-attacking machine be warned! Tomorrow is another day! Orange won't out-counter and out-catenaccio les Bleus like they did the Italians. :yes:
(Dang it..the Dutch haven't collapsed under in-fighting yet. What's going on? ~:mecry:)
~~~
Romania - Italy
Go Romania! Allez les Jaunes!
They'll have to chain me to the wall again tomorrow, that I won't attack the screen at the faintest sight of anything azure blue, and can kick and scream and throw mindless insults at the macaroni football team without hurting anyone. http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/M%E9chant/en-colere.gif
arrr....! Growl ! Groan! Bring me Mario! Bring me Mario! Bring me Mariorazzi! arrr..! http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/M%E9chant/fache3.gif
https://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9775/donkeykongsv3.png
Craterus
06-13-2008, 00:19
Netherlands 1 - 1 France
Italy 2 - 1 Romania
Tough games to call and I seem to have been getting progressively worse at this. :shrug:
Adrian II
06-13-2008, 00:23
This is my last try at predicting...
Day 7
Final prediction
Netherlands 2:1 France
Italy 3:1 Romania
:hide:
I am watching our football team for long enough.
Last time I seen them doing something meaningful was during the olimpic games in Barcelona ( 1992 ?).
This time it was worse than in last two World Cups.
In Korea-Japan we at least seen an ad hoc team made from reserve players who never played together demolishing the USA who were a suprise of the games in our group.
In Germany there was this tense game with Germany with lots of luck and very good saves to the last minute.
But now ??? The team played well, sometimes very, very well in the qualifying for the Euro, but when it started it turned into one big dissapointment, despite great games in time of one year, despite wonderful Leo 'the magician' and despite Roger who as we see was possibly the only real player except Boruc in the first half.
I think it would be better to replace our non existent defence with plastic dolls, so that these wouldn't stop Boruc from the work he does so well.
But what I really know about football.
Thankfully I am not a real football fan so I can always take the sarcastic stance and enjoy the jokes which will soon appear as always.
I am starting to wonder if I should invest time and money in 2012 - even if the games will be so close I would be able to hear the crowds cheering.
Or I could just blame the president for appearing there so certainly bringing bad luck - quite a good idea because I despise this man and he is no football fan present there only to beat our PM (a devoted fan and player for decades) who couldn't be in Vienna.... a lame excuse to say the least.
Sadly there is no scapegoat.
Now I can bet the team will play well against Croatia - they are always doing that if a game is meaningless, morons. And I think that Lewandowski should not come back.
What I don't understand is why Wasilevsky (spelling?) is playing. That fella should go play Rugby instead.
InsaneApache
06-13-2008, 00:30
I see that the Croats deprived me of my rightful points with their bumcheekery rogering of the Hun. :bullseye:
Damn them to hell. :brakelamp:
Anyroad, as that was the only time I've predicated pissed as a newt, I shall provaricate until the morrow. By gad. :toff:
cegorach
06-13-2008, 00:35
What I don't understand is why Wasilevsky (spelling?) is playing. That fella should go play Rugby instead.
Wasilewski ( it is not Russian so no need for 'V' and 'Y') plays because there is noone else for his position.
When he plays fine, it is good, if not... Boruc/Fabiański/Kuszczak/another goalkeeper saves us or not.
Gaius Scribonius Curio
06-13-2008, 03:17
Match day 7:
The Netherlands 2 - 1 France
Romania 1 - 1 Italy
scotchedpommes
06-13-2008, 05:38
Łobodziński looked a half-decent player against the Germans, but the entire team just went missing
today. A shame, as I'd wanted them to do well, though I can't say they'd deserve to go through on
the basis of the performances after qualifying. You never know, the Austrians might nick a point in the
next game if they make use of their good start for once, but I don't think Croatia will lie down by any
means.
Matchday 7 Prediction
Italy 3-0 Romania (1800)
[Meh.]
Netherlands 2-1 France (2045)
[Time to discover a cutting edge, astroteam. I don't think they will - at least that's the hope, because
for once we might see a consistent Dutch side and a very interesting final game between the supposed
big boys.]
Tonight is going to be great fun :2thumbsup:
Well that was a sad day! Germany really didn't change since their Poland game. Clunky and slow. Not pizazz throughout the field. Gomez and Fritz don't show anything and now their only creative player got red carded.
Match Day 7
Italy 2-0 Romania
Netherlands 3-1 France
Mediolanicus
06-13-2008, 08:02
Match Day 7
Italy 0-1 Romania
Netherlands 4-2 France
Match Day 8
Sweden 1-1 Spain
Greece 1-3 Russia
Match Day 9
Switzerland 0-3 Portugal
Turkey 1-2 Czech Republic
Match Day 10
Austria 0-2 Germany
Poland 1-3 Croatia
Ser Clegane
06-13-2008, 08:24
Romania - Italy 1 - 1
France - Netherlands 1 - 1
Strike For The South
06-13-2008, 08:27
I dont know who these teams or players are but I love every minute of my morning soccer fix. :2thumbsup: I find myslef choosing a team at the begning of the game and living and dying with them throughout. Although I must admit I am partial to Holland simply becuase orange jerseys are awesome.
cegorach
06-13-2008, 10:28
IN Poland. Conspiracy theories, accusations and anger, voices of reason on the defensive - what the hell is going on ?
Who are we the Italians ?
First the tabloid war (Axel Springer TM) between Fakt and Bild, now the judge is enemy number one.
Perhaps the Croats should massacre the team to finally prove how weak it is ? But it is too late already for some people.
But to add to the general fashion I have a theory on my own - here is the responsible one ! :smg:
https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/prezydentsportowiec.jpg
What is he thinking ? 'That name... I am sure I have seen it somewhere...' ??
Or perhaps he is checking if the evil Civic Platform didn't smuggle something to make him look bad... Too late !
Although I must admit I am partial to Holland simply becuase orange jerseys are awesome.
Aren't we all?
Anyway, my predictions for Saturday:
Match Day 8:
Sweden 1-2 Spain
Greece 0-0 Russia Sure bet
If ever there was a game where no-one can possibly score, it has to be Greece-Russia; the most tediously defensive team in the tournament versus a team who will be desparate to avoid another defensive disaster after their thrashing by Spain. So I'm going to have one last go at betting on boring teams to live up to their reputation and try to save my ailing score. As for Spain, they should have enough quality to overcome Sweden, although I don't see it being another demolition job.
Day 7
Italy 1 - 1 Romania
Netherlands 3 - 1 France
Day 8
Sweden 2 - 3 Spain
Greece 0 - 2 Russia
:2thumbsup:
cegorach
06-13-2008, 10:49
has to be photoshop!
No its not, you cannot appreciate this man and his problems with... anything.
https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/Prezydent_woli_odwrot_2575484.jpg
Adrian II
06-13-2008, 10:53
No its not, you cannot appreciate this man and his problems with... anything.Oh please. We have to make do with this...
https://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5759/legobalkenendegu2.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
No its not, you cannot appreciate this man and his problems with... anything.
https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/cegorach/Prezydent_woli_odwrot_2575484.jpg
He does look rather lovable with all that baby-fat, man this is just too hilarious what a ***** :laugh4:
(Eh! Watch the language por favor - Beirut)
Proletariat
06-13-2008, 13:17
Day 7
Italy 3 - 1 Romania
Netherlands 2 - 2 France
Match Day 6
Netherlands 2 - 2 France
Italy 1 - 0 Romania
So hard to predict.
Day 7
Italy 2-0 Romania
Netherlands 3-2 France
woad&fangs
06-13-2008, 14:59
Day 7
Italy 0-1 Romania
Netherlands 2-1 France
:mad:
Adrian II
06-13-2008, 15:27
Day 7
Italy 3 - 1 Romania
Netherlands 2 - 2 FranceHey Proletariat, are you actually watching the games and are you interested in soccer at all, or are you just trying to beat our ridiculously bad bets for fun? If the first applies, I'd love to see you analyzing a game or team one of these days.
Match Day 7
Italy 1-0 Romania
Netherlands 1-1 France
Match Day 8
Sweden 1-2 Spain
Greece 1-1 Russia
Match Day 9
Switzerland 1-3 Portugal
Turkey 1-2 Czech Republic
Match Day 10
Austria 0-2 Germany
Poland 1-2 Croatia
atheotes
06-13-2008, 16:17
Match Day 7
Italy 2-0 Romania
Netherlands 2-1 France
Craterus
06-13-2008, 16:39
Hey Proletariat, are you actually watching the games and are you interested in soccer at all, or are you just trying to beat our ridiculously bad bets for fun? If the first applies, I'd love to see you analyzing a game or team one of these days.
Visit the chat. Prole is a 'eurosoccer' expert and that's where she shows off. ~;)
Dutch_guy
06-13-2008, 16:56
Okay,
Italy 2-1 Romania
Netherlands 2-1 France
:balloon2:
InsaneApache
06-13-2008, 17:15
Italy 2-0 Romania
Netherlands 2-1 France
bugger I think I'm too late.
Proletariat
06-13-2008, 17:37
Hey Proletariat, are you actually watching the games and are you interested in soccer at all, or are you just trying to beat our ridiculously bad bets for fun? If the first applies, I'd love to see you analyzing a game or team one of these days.
Hey Adrian, I'm realising now that I've ignored this soccer fun for too long. I had been interested in the sport for awhile, but it's difficult to follow over here with the lack of coverage so I never got into it. When I saw all the Org a flurrying over this Euro08 and it was being broadcast here in the States, I decided this would be the best time to get my feet wet.
Most of the games come on while I'm at work, but I've been able to catch the first hour of all the early games this week, and I'll be making sure I'm alert enough by 12am tomorrow to catch Spain and the dreamy Fernando Torres (whether he has a mullet or not).
For my analysis so far on today's match: Italy is making a grave mistake here and if I were the coach, I'd make certain my team scored often. If Italy had 3 points right now it would be a very different game, and Romania would be ready to go home or just concede. Once the Italians realize that scoring more than the Romanians is key here, the match will be in the bag.
To be honest, as much fun as I'm having watching, I don't have enough of a grasp to analyze a match yet. To me it's like trying to analyze how water swirls around rocks in a stream, it just seems to flow and react. I can understand defensive traps and offensive ploys in NFL, and the acute tension in a pitcher's duel in baseball, so maybe with time I'll figure out how these formations work and how a soccer play actually unfolds. Craterus has been awfully patient with me in the chat explaining basics, but I think I may need the most powerful education tool of all to get the fundamentals down, a good video game.
This Italy vs Romania has been very exciting so far, with alot of the high flying attacks I wanna see. Go Italy! :italy::italy::italy:
hi Proletariat, nice to have you along for the fun!
Whatever the outcome, this is a different Italy from the one who played on Monday. Lobont is the only reason Romania are still level. Great attacking game on both ends though, fun to watch.
LeftEyeNine
06-13-2008, 17:53
A lady interested in soccer is always attractive.
Should you run out of any chances, marry me, prol.
Italy is making a grave mistake here and if I were the coach, I'd make certain my team scored often.
Hmmm, maybe they should hire you :beam:
woad&fangs
06-13-2008, 18:15
ROMANIAN GGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!
:mad:
Now, everyone stop scoring so I can get one right :beam:
Proletariat
06-13-2008, 18:17
Sorry, Woad. That didn't last long. :laugh4:
Should be 2-1 right now anyway, dammit :wall::wall:
FactionHeir
06-13-2008, 18:18
So who are you rooting for?
Right now I'm rooting for nobody since I have 1-1.
Though I think if Italy could only stop diving in the penalty area they could have scored several by now.
Fine save by Buffon, BTW.
Edit: YES! I got one right, for the first time this tournament. Thought I was sunk when Romania got that penalty though.
Betting on draws FTW.
Referee sucks. Goal was good, and he could have just not given that penalty, no goal but way too stern. True score is 2-1.
You may be right. But I still get the points. :beam:
And to look at it another way, at least they both still have something to play for in the final game.
Just realised I didn't even bet on that match :wall:
If I still can:
Netherlands 2-1 France
Tomorrow:
Russia 1-0 Greece
Spain 3-1 Sweden
Ah well Holland vs France comming up, would be great if we play just as good as we did monday. Italy may be the world champion but France is a fun team maybe we play even better.
Quintus.JC
06-13-2008, 19:38
Leader board updated again. LittleGrizzly is beginning to pull a distance from the rest, Ser Clegane and Scurvy are in hot pursuit. Gaius Scribonius Curio and Poor Bloody Infantry joins the top 5 for the first time after their last 2 sensational predictions.......
Quintus.JC
06-13-2008, 19:42
Match Day 8
Final Predictions
Spain 3 - 1 Sweden
Greece 0 - 2 Russia
woad&fangs
06-13-2008, 19:44
I swear I saw one of the French fans holding a live chicken:laugh4:
Quintus.JC
06-13-2008, 19:53
Italy looked past their prime. I was hoping for them to bounce back after the Netherland thrashing, but didn't happen today. Romanian was getting through too many times, Donadoni didn't get the formation right, maybe their'd be better off going back to Catenaccio instead.....
scotchedpommes
06-13-2008, 20:23
Was praying for that penalty to hit the back of the net. So, so much pain. So close to that sweet sight
of Italian tears.
As for the Dutch game, I must say it's good to see a team so well supported for once. They outnumber
the French fans 6 to 1. Excellent. And not a bad game at all. I start to worry again that Holland are in
our World Cup qualifying group. :sweatdrop:
[Astrology boys waking up now. These games are reminding me why I prefer this tournament to the
World Cup, certainly. Hopefully after 2012 we will see the expected expansion.]
Holland now up 2-0. Uncanny foresight with the substitution of Kuyt-Van Persie.
Is this guy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFvXVlfu4vs) doing the Euro2008 commentary for Dutch TV? ~D
no no-one score and I'll get a correct prediciton!
Quintus.JC
06-13-2008, 21:35
All hail the Dutch masters!
LeftEyeNine
06-13-2008, 21:43
Why isn't Brazil in America ?
BECAUSE EUROPE HAS THE NETHERLANDS !
SHOOT ME I'M DUTCH !
That match has been a proof of why most of the world calls this one the "football".
Sorry for the unparalleled arrangement level of this post but my Oranges blew me up into euphoria
Y'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLL
Adrian II
06-13-2008, 21:45
For my analysis so far on today's match: Italy is making a grave mistake here and if I were the coach, I'd make certain my team scored often. If Italy had 3 points right now it would be a very different game, and Romania would be ready to go home or just concede. Once the Italians realize that scoring more than the Romanians is key here, the match will be in the bag.Cretarus is right. Proletariat rulezz!
Good to have you on board, lady. You just walk the walk, and one day soon you will talk the talk like the best of us. :bow:
As for Neds-France, Jeeesus H. Christ what a match!! I haven't seen such a good match in years. The pace of that second half was absolutely murderous, remarkable. Hats off to the Bleus for never quitting, not until the last second. Poor Henry, poor Ribery, they gave everyone such a great run for their money. And I've seen the hand of God. If you watch that Robben goal in slow motion you see a giant hairy finger tipping that ball up just a few inches so it flies above Coupet's reach. Man, what a goal.
The worst day to be out of money would be today but still that's how it is. And I was so worried france would gain the momentum absolutily incredible.
woad&fangs
06-13-2008, 22:05
Gah!!! I missed the Holland V. France matchup :wall:
At least I guessed the winner correctly.
On a Friday afternoon, no less. I would hate to be a bottle of booze in Holland this weekend. :barrel: :netherlands: :medievalcheers:
Wonderful game. France v Italy hopefully will attempt to match the intensity at the least.
Kralizec
06-13-2008, 22:21
I had an ominous feeling the first two minutes of the match...poor Frenchies, they played a lot better than the Italians.
Hup Holland, hup! :2thumbsup:
Craterus
06-13-2008, 22:34
gah, meant to change to a Netherlands win. And I debated with an Italy draw. Too much second-guessing for me. Or not enough.
:cry:
Geoffrey S
06-13-2008, 22:43
Holy...! No way I'm a fan of football, and the first half would probably have left me that way - I actually thought the French were the better side, there. But the second half! The Dutch produced masterful moments, but the French certainly weren't asleep. A fun, fast-paced match of a kind I hope to see more of.
cegorach
06-13-2008, 22:43
Cretarus is right. Proletariat rulezz!
Good to have you on board, lady. You just walk the walk, and one day soon you will talk the talk like the best of us. :bow:
As for Neds-France, Jeeesus H. Christ what a match!! I haven't seen such a good match in years. The pace of that second half was absolutely murderous, remarkable. Hats off to the Bleus for never quitting, not until the last second. Poor Henry, poor Ribery, they gave everyone such a great run for their money. And I've seen the hand of God. If you watch that Robben goal in slow motion you see a giant hairy finger tipping that ball up just a few inches so it flies above Coupet's reach. Man, what a goal.
I wasn't watching it unfortunatelly, but I heard the cheers and screams across the street from at least three pubs.
I can't wait the quarter finals - the Dutch vs who ?
Craterus
06-13-2008, 22:44
Haven't scored any points in the last 5 games, so here's tomorrows:
Sweden 0 - 2 Spain
Russia 2 - 1 Greece
Adrian II
06-13-2008, 22:44
And I debated with an Italy draw.Well, that was really disappointing. Good show for Romania, but it was really Italy that lost, not the Romanians that won. Where were the ever resourceful Italian defenders? Where were the merciless attackers who need only half an opening to score? Nowhere to be seen. I really miss my pasta's; they used to make or break a tournament and now they hardly take part in it.
Adrian II
06-13-2008, 22:46
Cegorach, just click here (http://goalday.blogspot.com/) for the highlights.
really enjoyed both games, hope Romania can beat Holland next round (as Dutch have nothing to play for)
:2thumbsup:
LeftEyeNine
06-13-2008, 23:02
Romania was my surprise team of the tournament. And they are proving out to be one. A "resting" Dutch team may be defeated by a narrow score in favor of the Romanians which will take the Yellows along with the Oranges for the quarter finals.
This group could possess the domination show-offs of the giants however all teams convinced us that they are all good enough. (ok ok, such an Italian defense could never be seen)
Very nice game for the Dutch, although I was hoping for France to score that last goal(just for the 20 extra points I admit ~;) ).
France really put some pressure on them but the accuracy was not theirs.
That Italy match was rather disappointing. :no:
They should sign a secret pact to let the Romanians win so that they both go through and everyone stupidly thinks the Ducth will play badly in the Quarter finals only they don't and the final is between Holland and Romania!
Geoffrey S
06-13-2008, 23:16
I think they need Dries Roelvink on the attack, supported by Guus Meeuwis.
FactionHeir
06-13-2008, 23:29
On a Friday afternoon, no less. I would hate to be a bottle of booze in Holland this weekend. :barrel: :netherlands: :medievalcheers:
Wonderful game. France v Italy hopefully will attempt to match the intensity at the least.
On a Friday the 13th afternoon no less indeed :wink:
Quite an impressive game by the Oranjes there, our Dutch overlords here will be singing for a while :laugh4:
Louis VI the Fat
06-13-2008, 23:34
Wow...
Strange as it may seem, I was pleased with les Bleus. They did most of what I wanted them to do. They gave it their best. They played with passion, urgency and determination, right until the last minute! Even if that last bit of finesse was absent - little triangles, cool combinations - they did me proud.
I would not have brought on Gomis maybe, nor Anelka. Benzema it should have been.
We missed that little bit of luck too. A penalty that wasn't given, a devastating attack right after getting the game back up to 2-1, Henry -great though he was - who still lacked some accuracy in front of goal, etcetera.
But this game was about something else. Over the last decade I have seen France play against the Brazilians, the Portuguese, the Spanish, the English, the Italians, the Croats. I've seen it all, great clashes, great games, gifted opponents.
But what I have not witnessed was an opponent that outclasses France on sheer technical prowess. Players, who are simply better, more gifted. This Orange is phenomenal. The greatest team France has met in the modern age. :bow:
LeftEyeNine
06-14-2008, 00:01
Even if that last bit of finesse was absent - little triangles, cool combinations - they did me proud.
I hate to tell a French that France's offensive success' over recent years was due to that underlying MAJOR tactic -triangles, one-twos and players that break through-.
Thanks to Domenech, with some of the most rapid wingers of all-time France, we are yet to see any of this which can produce Orange-like results for France.
Gah.
Holland now up 2-0. Uncanny foresight with the substitution of Kuyt-Van Persie.
Is this guy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFvXVlfu4vs) doing the Euro2008 commentary for Dutch TV? ~D
The guy is Jack van Gelder. He's great. He puts his soul into and is sometimes a bit funny. Like Last World Cup when he was making fun of Ronaldo (The brazilain guy).
I do not believe he's commenting any games though.
atheotes
06-14-2008, 05:10
Sweden 0 - 2 Spain
Russia 0 - 0 Greece Sure bet
LittleGrizzly
06-14-2008, 05:15
Hell of a game, Netherlands were simply amazing. Though i was hopeful it would stay 2-1 as two correct results would have been great!
Well done Italy Romania for getting a 1-1 draw, did me proud :)
Day Something
Sweden 0 - 2 Spain
Russia 1 - 0 Greece
Wow...
Strange as it may seem, I was pleased with les Bleus. They did most of what I wanted them to do. They gave it their best. They played with passion, urgency and determination, right until the last minute! Even if that last bit of finesse was absent - little triangles, cool combinations - they did me proud.
I would not have brought on Gomis maybe, nor Anelka. Benzema it should have been.
We missed that little bit of luck too. A penalty that wasn't given, a devastating attack right after getting the game back up to 2-1, Henry -great though he was - who still lacked some accuracy in front of goal, etcetera.
But this game was about something else. Over the last decade I have seen France play against the Brazilians, the Portuguese, the Spanish, the English, the Italians, the Croats. I've seen it all, great clashes, great games, gifted opponents.
But what I have not witnessed was an opponent that outclasses France on sheer technical prowess. Players, who are simply better, more gifted. This Orange is phenomenal. The greatest team France has met in the modern age. :bow:
Methinks you have been talking to too many British people, Louis. We're the ones who are supposed to be pleased about how we got thrashed but "played well" and "showed character". ~;)
Ser Clegane
06-14-2008, 07:42
Spain - Sweden 2 - 1
Russia - Greece 2 - 1
Adrian II
06-14-2008, 07:43
But what I have not witnessed was an opponent that outclasses France on sheer technical prowess. Players, who are simply better, more gifted.As always I like your analysis, Louis. The sheer physical prowess of all the Dutch players isn't in doubt, they lost very few duels on that. The technical prowess isn't spread equally well. Only a few have this 'teflon' quality that makes them appear untouchable. Van de Sar, Van Nistelrooy, Robben and Kuyt certainly have it. Robben displayed it when he made his brilliant solo goal. You can see it in the run-up to Van Persie's goal, too. Van Nistelrooy makes an otherworldly flick in left field that takes care of three French defenders and sends away Robben virtually unchallenged, who then passes to Van Persie in front of the goal. All textbook, except that incredible flick.
I think I know where that little flick comes from. It can not be taught, exercised or drilled. It is the result of kids playing street soccer from the age of six or seven upwards, day in, day out. That's where very young players develop the neural tissue and spatial orientation needed for such moves. The Brazilians used to be past masters as it, because football is totally integrated with street culture there and it is played in impossible spaces and on terrible gravel plots where technical control is everything. Fortunately this culture isn't yet lost in The Neds, or so it seems. Van Nistelrooy certainly has it.
But yeah, respect for the Bleus. They always had exceptional character, and they haven't lost it. They gave it their best as if this were the final. :bow:
I actually thought the French were the better side, there.
They are the better team. Heard the joke about the frenchie who made an mistake? He didn't. France is clockwork perfection. At the end of the first half when France was taking back the match Holland was starting to lose the magic and started to make silly mistakes, I thought we were done. What happened in the second half is nothing short of a miracle. Viva la France, fantastic team and great sports this game was really about good football and chivalry :2thumbsup:
I think it's day 8 isn't it?
Spain 2-1 Sweden
Russia 1-0 Greece
Adrian II
06-14-2008, 10:50
Spain is going to try and take it easy, maybe Villa will even be spared for the second half. Greece is going to have to play offensive football, which they´re incapable of, so they will be slaughtered in a very messy game. Says the worst predictor of the thread (OK, so I joined late).
Day 8
Final prediction
Spain 2:1 Sweden
Russia 2:0 Greece
I think they need Dries Roelvink on the attack, supported by Guus Meeuwis.Ow, that's a nasty one. I've said it before, you have been 'integrated' too well. ~D
Methinks you have been talking to too many British people, Louis. We're the ones who are supposed to be pleased about how we got thrashed but "played well" and "showed character". ~;)Oh but the English have shown character throughout this opening round of the tournament. And they have their job cut out for them in the quarter finals. :tongue2:
Geoffrey S
06-14-2008, 11:12
Van Nistelrooy makes an otherworldly flick in left field that takes care of three French defenders and sends away Robben virtually unchallenged, who then passes to Van Persie in front of the goal. All textbook, except that incredible flick.
That was in my opinion the most beautiful moment of the match. We were all watching him being surrounded, then suddenly there's that flick and the field is wide, wide open for Robben and Van Persie. Barely a Frenchman in sight. It was clear ten seconds before the ball actually hit the net that it would be a goal, and everyone was ecstatic.
InsaneApache
06-14-2008, 11:42
I'd better pull my socks up here before a certain small bear roars off into the dist......
Here goes..
Spain 3:0 Sweden
Russia 1:0 Greece
Gaius Scribonius Curio
06-14-2008, 11:54
Match Day 8:
Spain 2 - 0 Sweden
Russia 1 - 1 Greece
LeftEyeNine
06-14-2008, 12:08
Sweden 1-1 Spain
Greece 1-0 Russia
Spain is no big team yet. And Greece are sure to grab some points from one of the "almost-nothing" teams of the tournament.
Adrian II
06-14-2008, 12:35
Sweden 1-1 Spain
Greece 1-0 Russia
Spain is no big team yet. And Greece are sure to grab some points from one of the "almost-nothing" teams of the tournament.Russia can play offensive football. It's not pretty. But it is offensive football. Greece can't - which doesn't mean it is going to be a pretty sight either. :laugh:
LeftEyeNine
06-14-2008, 12:50
Russia can play offensive football. It's not pretty. But it is offensive football. Greece can't - which doesn't mean it is going to be a pretty sight either. :laugh:
Well, that's the trick. Russia does not have an excessive offensive capability where Greece can stop that. What's more Greece have better strikers this time and one of the counter attacks will knock the Russkis unconscious.
woad&fangs
06-14-2008, 12:58
Sweden 1-2 Spain
Greece 1-1 Russia
scotchedpommes
06-14-2008, 13:03
Matchday 8 Predictions
Sweden 1-1 Spain (1800)
[Spanish bubbles usually tend to burst a little later, but I think Sweden might contain them and be able
to exploit their defensive weaknesses just enough to bring them down to earth. Sweden are missing a
couple of critical players to injuries, though I've been led to believe their more youthful alternatives
aren't half bad. I trust they'll do me a favour here, then.] :skull:
Greece 1-2 Russia (2045)
[Greece have to change to a more positive system, as they are quite capable of doing. Whether they
do or not, Russia might just prove too strong for them. They were unlucky early on against Spain, and
I think their endeavour could pull them through for a repeat of the result four years ago.]
FactionHeir
06-14-2008, 13:07
Sweden 2-1 Spain
Greece 3-1 Russia
Adrian II
06-14-2008, 13:14
Greece 3-1 RussiaNice change. Care to explain?
Proletariat
06-14-2008, 14:05
Day 8
Spain 3:1 Sweden
Russia 0:2 Greece
Looks like Romania will sneak into second spot if they can get a decent result against a second string Dutch side next week.
Afonso I of Portugal
06-14-2008, 14:57
Match Day 8 Prediction
Spain 2 - 1 Sweden
Greece 0 - 0 Russia (i predict a very very boring match...:shame:)
Afonso I of Portugal
06-14-2008, 15:16
I think I know where that little flick comes from. It can not be taught, exercised or drilled. It is the result of kids playing street soccer from the age of six or seven upwards, day in, day out. That's where very young players develop the neural tissue and spatial orientation needed for such moves. The Brazilians used to be past masters as it, because football is totally integrated with street culture there and it is played in impossible spaces and on terrible gravel plots where technical control is everything. Fortunately this culture isn't yet lost in The Neds, or so it seems. Van Nistelrooy certainly has it.
At last!!! :2thumbsup: i see someone who understand the reasons for Brazilian wold cup superiority and Portugal's past years success. Players like Cristiano Ronaldo or Ronaldinho, among many others (almost the entire teams, actualy) came from that street culture and that explain individual skills and ball possession. Usualy both Portugal and Brazil have a lot of ball possession in their matches and that can also explain Dutch failures against both.
But in this Dutch team, teamwork is amazing and together with very good individual skills makes them the main favourite for this trophy. Playing like these, i think this time The Neds can easily win over Portugal...:shame::sweatdrop:
Lest we never forget :beam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKXq7xcnkis
hehe that was fun
Adrian II
06-14-2008, 15:32
Lest we never forget :beam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKXq7xcnkis
hehe that was fun:shame:
Geoffrey S
06-14-2008, 15:33
I love this commentating (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFvXVlfu4vs&feature=related).
DukeofSerbia
06-14-2008, 15:35
Spain is overrated.
But I guess they will win.
Russia - Greece. Arr, I won't watch it, probably.
Adrian II
06-14-2008, 15:38
I love this commentating (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFvXVlfu4vs&feature=related).God, that idiot again... he should be shot in a ditch, his possessions burnt and his children sold into slavery in some third world country. Not Bergkamp, the commentator.
Geoffrey, please stop destroying the illusion that the Dutch are in the big league and are not the emotional and intellectual midgets that we really are. You can still be 'uitgeburgerd', you know...
:laugh4:
Louis VI the Fat
06-14-2008, 15:56
I wouldn't be at all surprised if we had Portugal - Neths for a final this time. Hopefully, it will be a better match than two years ago. Last World Cup both teams wasted their considerable talent on too much nonsense. If the Portuguese hadn't mistaken the semi-final for an Olympic diving contest, the final would've been theirs.
Spain 2 - 1 Sweden
Greece 0 - 1 Russia
Still recovering from last night's game. Biggest defeat in a competetive match since before I was born. The defensive duo of Gallas and Thuram were too vulnerable.
*cries for Mexes*
No wait, Domenech didn't bring him. :wall:
If the Dutch decide to lose the last game, or play their reserves, it's all over for France. Bah.
Biggest defeat in a competetive match since before I was born.
Well it is the greatest team in the universe and surroundings.
LittleGrizzly
06-14-2008, 16:59
Spain 2-1 sweden
Russia 2-0 greece
Afonso I of Portugal
06-14-2008, 17:05
Lest we never forget :beam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKXq7xcnkis
hehe that was fun
Fun? it was a shame for both teams! :shame:
But your right, we shouldn't forget some butchers...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIYHDU2b7DM
Oh common you won, Portugal was a dirty chief as well :whip:
Right, Sunday's games:
Match Day 9:
Czech Republic 1-2 Turkey
Switzerland 2-1 Portugal
Czech Republic haven't done anything like enough to justify a quarter final spot so I pick the more energetic Turks to just edge it to take second place in the group. In the other game, Portugal have already qualified and it is the last chance for the Swiss to take some points since they are already eliminated so I expect them to go all-out against a weakened Portugal side and get a victory for pride.
DukeofSerbia
06-14-2008, 17:55
Not bad match, but still average.
Spain defense is poor without Puyol.
Dutch referee Pieter Vink could easily whistle a penalty kick on the end of half time...
Sweden can win [as Puyol is out] if they would play more aggressively in attack phase. :smash:
FactionHeir
06-14-2008, 18:08
Nice change. Care to explain?
They've surprised once before with winning the championship while I cannot remember Russia ever getting far.
Dang! I didn't do the Spain game:wall: What a bummer for Sweden at the end tho:whip:
Russia 2-1 Greece
Sigh, horrible match I'd say. I guess that's what happens when the entire strategy is dependant on one player (zlatan). The beginning of the match was a disgrace also, like watching tree trunks trying to cover their respective areas by putting down roots rather than pressing enemy players or blocking passes, consequently giving Spain free reign far into our defence. Spain won that one fairly, still frustrating match to watch though, especially when the spanish team seemed to be far from their prime. It's as it allways is with Sweden and championships, coincidental goals, no drive, and and a long, slow but certain death.
The only thing left to do now is to hope for second place (not that the team on the whole deserves even that) in the group and to be beaten out of the competition by Holland like last time.
Quintus.JC
06-14-2008, 19:58
Leader board updated. And a certain small bear is roaring into the distance.....
Quintus.JC
06-14-2008, 20:00
Match Day 9
Final Predictions
Czech Republic 2 - 1 Turkey
Portugal 2 - 1 Switzerland
Craterus
06-14-2008, 21:39
Day 9
Switzerland 0 - 2 Portugal
Turkey 1 - 3 Czech Republic
..for now. I might change these later. :huh:
cegorach
06-14-2008, 21:41
Congratulations Russia !
Anyone who send the Greeks where they belong is my favourite - at least for a moment.
Sweden - Russia will be tense - I will have a drink for that.:2thumbsup:
Adrian II
06-14-2008, 21:54
Congratulations Russia !
Anyone who send the Greeks where they belong is my favourite - at least for a moment.
Sweden - Russia will be tense - I will have a drink for that.:2thumbsup:Yeah, good game. The Russian defense was soft as wet cardboard, but as expected these Greeks couldn't make a dent in it. And the Russian attack wasn't pretty, but it was sufficient. I liked their inventive attacks though, the use of the full field, they had great spirit! Oh, and poor, poor Pavlyuchenko who worked like a horse during the entire match and saw so many shots at goal end just short, just wide, just not good enough. But it could have been 5-0..
And well done, Guusje.. :2thumbsup:
WarMachine187
06-14-2008, 21:56
espanya! I just watched their game against Sweden.That boy fernando torres is amazing,and hed bee even greater if he didnt dive so much.I bet anyone sweden wins their game against russia 2-1.
Thought Sweden v Spain was a good game, and thought result was fair, didn't see Russia v Greece.
Day 9
Switzerland 1 v 2 Portugal
Turkey 2 v 1 Czech Republic
Day 10
Austria 1 v 1 Germany
Poland 1 v 2 Croatia
:2thumbsup:
Adrian II
06-14-2008, 22:18
Yeah, Torres is amazing and dreamy (Proletariat dixit), but Villa is the killer, the lone assassin. If and when the Dutch face off against Spain and it's all-or-nothing, Villa is going to be a real pain in Van der Sar's backside.
Day 9
Switzerland 0 v 2 Portugal
Turkey 1 v 3 Czech Republic
Louis VI the Fat
06-14-2008, 23:38
Sure Bet: France - Netherlands 2-2
Sure Bet: Romania - Italy 3-0Well that was expensive. ~:mecry:
Mind over passion sometimes, Louis, damnit. There's a time for the heart and a time for the mind. :wall:
But I'm making up for it with brilliant footy knowledge! :
Spain 2 - 1 Sweden
Greece 0 - 1 Russia:knight:
~~~
Are we in for some great final day matches! Czech - Turkey, Germany - Austria (!), Sweden - Russia. And maybe France - Italy. Such a pity that this last game hinges on what the Dutch will do, or it would be a classic. Dormirnech should play me and Mehphistophilis, we know just how to approach this game...
Match Day 9
Switzerland - Portugal 0-1
Czech Republic - LEN Republic 1-1 And penalty shootout!
I haven't thought this long about match results before as for these two matches. I really don't know.
Portugal has got nothing to play for, and the Swiss will give it their best. But the difference in quality may be simply to great. Although any result seems quite possible.
Czech - Turkey could go either way as well, for any number of reasons.
Louis VI the Fat
06-14-2008, 23:43
Fernando Torres
*sigh*Gah! Torres, gah!
You need French hunks instead! Like this one:
https://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5044/franckriberyjm9.jpg
https://img241.imageshack.us/img241/548/riberylm7.jpg
https://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5744/quasimodo20whipped20cloww6.jpg
Sorry, I meant this one:
https://img123.imageshack.us/img123/5686/mexeswm3.gif
Philippe Mexès. The current French football heartthrob.
For more Euro-hunk hotness, click this link! (http://www.manchesterdevils.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1151&st=100&p=143400&#entry143400) Le 'Prix Franck Ribéry du Footballeur le plus moche'! :beam:
InsaneApache
06-14-2008, 23:52
...
Adrian II
06-15-2008, 00:00
Bloody hell, tomorrow is hard to say. This old fox still knows his game, but during a European Championship the Gods of football drink themselves into a stupor and no priestess is able to channel their will. Portugal will win, but probably in a lacklustre game (it takes two to make a good team tango). The Czechs will beat sturdy LENnistan, but barely, for somewhat similar reasons.
Day 9
Final prediction
Switzerland 0:1 Portugal
Czech Republic 2:1 Turkey
atheotes
06-15-2008, 04:34
Match Day 9
Czech Republic 2 - 1 Turkey
Portugal 2 - 1 Switzerland
LittleGrizzly
06-15-2008, 04:56
Leader board updated. And a certain small bear is roaring into the distance.....
Its a temporary blip, like a true englishman i intend to mess it all up at about the quater final stage ;)
plus ive heard the germans (ser!) usually pick it up a level when it gets to knockouts
Match Day 9
Czech Republic 1 - 1 Turkey (turkey to win on pens)
Portugal 2 - 0 Switzerland
having trouble figuring out the portugal switzerland one mainly, on the one hand you have a weakend portugal team and a swiss team playing for pride but on the other hand you have some portugal players trying to earn a spot and a demoralised swiss team..... i think in the end the portuguese reverses will be well up for it and put in a good performance....
Match Day 9
Czech Republic 0 - 2 Turkey
Portugal 2 - 0 Switzerland
Ser Clegane
06-15-2008, 07:13
Czech Republic - Turkey 2 - 1
Switzerland - Portugal 1 - 1
Quintus.JC
06-15-2008, 07:17
Leader board updated.
The point systems will change in the quarter-finals and onwards, more points is awarded.... better look at the rules.
Gaius Scribonius Curio
06-15-2008, 08:31
Matchday 9:
Portugal 3 - 0 Switzerland
Turkey 1 - 1 Czech Republic
So I'm making steady progress up the table thanks to a few good predictions over the past couple of days; Grizzly's miles ahead though, and alas there are no England to lose on penalties and lose him all his points.
OK my choices for Monday:
Austria 1-3 Germany
Croatia 1-1 Poland
These final group games are tricky to predict, the presence of already-qualified teams is always a wildcard. Sometimes they rest their squad and field the reserves, but sometimes they use the confidence from winning the two opening games to get a clean sweep, which surely is a better omen for the knockout stages than losing your last game. I'm not sure which way Croatia will go, so I'm going to fence sit and say they have enough quality to put one past the Poles, but the Poles' extra drive will be enough for them to get one too. Meanwhile I predict Germany to bounce back from the Croatia game (they never seem to stay demoralized for long) and outclass the Austrians; they do look dangerously flimsy at the back though, so I predict Austria to put one past them. Thus, Croatia to win the group with Germany second; not a day for sure bets though.
I have a question though; anyone know of a team losing a meaningful group game going on to win the tournament?
Adrian II
06-15-2008, 10:02
I have a question though; anyone know of a team losing a meaningful group game going on to win the tournament?Off the top of my head I would say Germany, German and Germany. Pick any major tournament of the last thirty years. Okay, they didn't go on to win most tournaments, but they would do very well toward the end.
Hey you didn't update my score.
I should have got 40 points: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1946114&postcount=336
edit:actually I don't think the Dutch-French prediction was counted either...
Day 9:
Portugal 3-1 Switzerland
Turkey 1-2 Czech Republic
InsaneApache
06-15-2008, 13:09
Not too bad results wise for me yesterday. That damned small bear is still racing off though. :furious3::beam:
Earwigoh!
Czech Republic - Turkey 2 - 0
Switzerland - Portugal 0 - 2
Quintus.JC
06-15-2008, 13:29
Hey you didn't update my score.
I should have got 40 points: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1946114&postcount=336
edit:actually I don't think the Dutch-French prediction was counted either...
Sorry about that. You now have 50 points actually, thanks for pointing it out. ~:)
Afonso I of Portugal
06-15-2008, 15:10
Oh! what a pity!:sweatdrop: game over for the Greek phalanx...:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::bounce:
Maybe next time they try to play some football...
Match Day 9 Predictions
Czech Republic 2 - 1 Turkey
The Czechs need to win for the quarter finals, but Turkish counter-attack my do something for their hopes.
Portugal 2 - 1 Switzerland
Portugal's second team want to show up and players like Quaresma, Nani and Almeida are unhappy in the bench, so they should do everything they can for a call. However, this is Swiss last chance to colect some points and pride...
woad&fangs
06-15-2008, 15:48
Portugal 3-0 Swiss
Turkey 1-2 Czechs
Proletariat
06-15-2008, 16:37
Portugal 2 0 Swiss
Turkey 1 2 Czech
scotchedpommes
06-15-2008, 17:55
Matchday 9 Predictions
Turkey 1-1 Czech Republic, Turkey win on penalties (2045)
[In his grumble on learning the change in tiebreaker format - which has been in place since 2004 - Karel
Brückner made an interesting point: Despite winning all three of their last competitive penalty shootouts
without missing a single kick, it should be noted that in at least two out of three of their European exits
the Czechs have gone out being the first team to fall foul of new or previously unused rules. In 1996
they were the first team to lose to a golden goal, and in 2004 they were the first team to lose to a
silver goal. I expect this game will be tight, and the Turks need to keep the likes of Sionko in check.
Nevertheless, I believe it would be in keeping with the Czechs' tournament luck to fail in the first group
stage penalty shootout.]
Switzerland 0-1 Portugal (2045)
[Mehmehmehmehmehmehmeh.]
Quintus.JC
06-15-2008, 19:51
Match Day ?
Final Predictions
Germany 2 - 0 Austria
Croatia 2 - 1 Poland
Ser Clegane
06-15-2008, 20:05
Croatia - Poland 1 - 1
Germany - Austria 3 - 1
Germany 1 - 0 Austria
Croatia 2 - 1 Poland
LeftEyeNine
06-15-2008, 20:52
Being the only team up to now int his tournament to turn around a match from a score behind, we are expecting the same again...Hopefully.
Quintus.JC
06-15-2008, 21:38
LeftEyeNine must be loving it right now... What a great come-back.
scotchedpommes
06-15-2008, 21:50
Amazing. I had been going to go with 2-2 with Turkey winning on penalties, but I though nah, there
wouldn't be four goals in this game. And there are five. GET IN THERE, LADS! The turks march on! Yas.
Adrian II
06-15-2008, 21:54
Great second half, thanks to the Turks who gave it everything they had - it wasn't pretty, but it was a sight for sore eyes to watch yet another team going all out. Altintop and Servet were all over the place.
Kudos to the Anatolian lions! :bow: :balloon2:
Finally, the first win at a Euro for the Swiss. Granted, it was against the Portuguese B-team, but nonetheless. I think we deserved a little luck after the first two games.
Well done to Turkey! After the Swiss game the Czechs should have been warned. Just goes to show that the alleged best goalkeeper in the world is not quite invincible. Hard luck!
Quid
Afonso I of Portugal
06-15-2008, 22:40
Amazing Turkey and congrats! maybe we can face them again in the semis...
Match Day 10 Predictions
Germany 2 - 0 Austria
Croatia 1 - 2 Poland
Congrats to Turkey, fantastic of them to come back not just from 2-0 down today but from losing their opener, quarter final well deserved. Also nice for the Swiss to get something but always a little annoying for teams who are already through to play their reserves; I guess it would have been more annoying if the game had meant anything but I really feel it's not a good omen to be losing a game in the group stages. Even if it's meaningless I kind of expect tournament winners to have a mentality which would make them not willing to lose any games at all.
Off the top of my head I would say Germany, German and Germany. Pick any major tournament of the last thirty years. Okay, they didn't go on to win most tournaments, but they would do very well toward the end.
Well they always start slowly and pick up in the knockout stage, but it's been ages since they won anything. And let's face it, they are something of an anomaly in their ability never to get demoralized; be typical if they reach the final now after being so decisively destroyed by Croatia.
Adrian II
06-15-2008, 23:55
Well they always start slowly and pick up in the knockout stage, but it's been ages since they won anything. And let's face it, they are something of an anomaly in their ability never to get demoralized; be typical if they reach the final now after being so decisively destroyed by Croatia.Well alright, it was the closest thing I could think of. We would need die-hard footballologues like Louis or LEN to pull out the relevant statistics. From memory again, I would say that the Germans only recover from their usual initial slump if they have one or two real stars who inspire the rest of the team to pull themselves up by their own hair. As is the case with all teams (Maradona and Argentine, anyone?).
The last European Championship I watched was 1992. Germany had a silly opening game against the former USSR (1:0 thanks to Thomas Häßler in the last minute), an easy game against the demoralised Scots (2:0) and a nightmare game against the Dutch (1:3). But I believe Jürgen Klinsmann - solid, fair and a star with the panache of an artist - somehow pulled them through, and they made it to the final. Which they lost, granted. You can't win 'em all.
Gaius Scribonius Curio
06-16-2008, 01:07
Got up early to watch Czechs and Turkey this morning. Went to have a shower at 2-0 because I thought it was all over. Turned it back on at 85 mins gone, and saw the incredible ending! Was disappointed with Volkan's push though, abolutely no need with the game pretty much won...
Anyways to business...
Matchday 10:
Germany 2 - 0 Austria *sure bet*
Croatia 1 - 0 Poland
LittleGrizzly
06-16-2008, 01:13
Bad day of betting yesterday, things not going how i expected, tomorrow will be different!
(hopefully)
Matchday 10:
Germany 2 - 1 Austria
Croatia 2 - 0 Poland sure bet
LeftEyeNine
06-16-2008, 02:48
VERY VERY
UN-FRONTROOMISH
BEHAVIOUR !!
This was the best I could do, after cooling off for 5 hours.
What a day...great game between Turkey and the Czechs! Tho I do think the ref was a "little" harsh with the red card tho...seriously Koller is the biggest guy out there and goes down like a leaf in the wind...
As for tomorrow's games:
Germany 3-0 Austria
Croatia 2-1 Poland
Portugal fielded the 'B' Team alright....but that ref was not exactly "cricket" now was he? :inquisitive:
well...whatever....he were already classified in first place and the Swiss deserved a win out of this...just don´t let it happen again.
The last European Championship I watched was 1992. Germany had a silly opening game against the former USSR (1:0 thanks to Thomas Häßler in the last minute), an easy game against the demoralised Scots (2:0) and a nightmare game against the Dutch (1:3). But I believe Jürgen Klinsmann - solid, fair and a star with the panache of an artist - somehow pulled them through, and they made it to the final. Which they lost, granted. You can't win 'em all.
This is a dangerous omen! As far as I can remember Germany has in every tounament they have won, lost a group game. I have no doubt that they will pull through today's match. Austria - like Switzerland - simply does not have the class to qualify fort he next round.
Quid
Well, it would be something of a miracle if the Austrians won. But then again, that's what I thought about Turkey when it was 2-0 to the Czechs last night, and Germany's defence isn't exactly convincing this year.
Adrian II
06-16-2008, 13:33
Well, it would be something of a miracle if the Austrians won. But then again, that's what I thought about Turkey when it was 2-0 to the Czechs last night, and Germany's defence isn't exactly convincing this year.Yeah, this is the stage where you can predict the teams' strategies, but not the outcomes of their games.
Day 10
Final prediction
Germany 2:1 Austria
Croatia 2:0 Poland
I was expecting a under strength Portugal side, but not the blind school. :laugh4:
Matchday 10:
Germany 2 - 0 Austria Sure Bet
Austria's strikers will keep on missing, Germany to win (hopefully).
Croatia 2 - 1 Poland
Let's go Croatia, then again they could lose if they do what Portugal did. :dizzy2:
InsaneApache
06-16-2008, 14:01
Blimey, yesterday my predictions were worse that Lawros, and he's a proper numpty....
Germany 2:0 Austria
Croatia 3:0 Poland
Letsbeavenuthen.
Right, Tuesday's games:
Match Day 11:
France 1-1 Italy
Netherlands 1-1 Romania
Everything hinges on what kind of team the Netherlands field, but I suspect they may field a weakened side and the Romanians certainly look potent enough to get at least one goal; I'm almost tempted to pick Romania to win but don't want to look too silly when Netherlands destroy them 6-0.
One of France or Italy has to step up and win if they are to go through, but unless one of them improves massively in the final game neither truly deserves to go through. It's going to be messy, and likely will hang on scrappy goals and controversial decisions. France look perhaps slightly better but also the shock of their comprehensive thrashing at the hands of the Dutch whirlwind is more fresh. Could go any way, but I'm picking a stalemate and elimination for both just because I feel Romania deserve it more for playing so tenaciously in such a tough group.
Not a day for sure bets, I really feel both games could go either way.
Adrian II
06-16-2008, 14:19
I was expecting a under strength Portugal side, but not the blind school. :laugh4::laugh3:
Afonso I of Portugal
06-16-2008, 15:04
We played without 8 starting elevens and as far as i know Croatia, The Neds and Spain will also put their B teams in the pitch. It's too tempting to give some rest for the A team at this time of the season. So, in the end let's see if UEFA should open an hospital for the blind ones...:juggle2:
Adrian II
06-16-2008, 15:15
It's too tempting to give some rest for the A team at this time of the season.The season? Were in the middle of a European Championship tournament! If you want to win, you had better make sure your team stays in a winning mood and doesn't go down 2:0 against a real B-team. If Van Basten does the same this Tuesday he's going to be pelted with eggs and tomatoes, tarred, feathered and hung out to dry on the Matterhorn (south flank).
Our A team could easily be destroyed by the rumanians. We don't have anything to lose but our momentum and momentum is important for the dutch team, see the final phase in the first half against france, they had us nailed. Morale needs to be high we are a very fragile awesome. I am hoping for a draw between France and Italy that's adieu for both. Going to be a fun match between these two.
edit, did I really say magyar?
Proletariat
06-16-2008, 16:11
Day 10
Germany 2:1 Austria
Croatia 2:0 Poland
atheotes
06-16-2008, 16:27
Croatia - Poland 1 - 1
Germany - Austria 3 - 1
Craterus
06-16-2008, 16:30
Germany 2 - 0 Austria
Croatia 1 - 0 Poland
Louis VI the Fat
06-16-2008, 16:41
Need to get my score in:
Day 10
Germany - Austria 2-0.
And back to skiing! (Hoping for a fun Austria stunt though... :2thumbsup:)
Croatia - Poland 0-0. These games where one side has qualified already are a pain to predict. In a real game, Croatia would wipe the floor with Poland. But they've got nothing to play for anymore. Even so, I can't see the Poles win this - the professional Germans will be up 2-0 at half-time, which will demoralise the Poles. [/chrystal ball]
My predictions for day 11 have been made earlier, I'll repeat them for clarities' sake:
Sure bet: France - Italy 5-1
Sure bet: Holland - Romania 1-0
The season? Were in the middle of a European Championship tournament! If you want to win, you had better make sure your team stays in a winning mood and doesn't go down 2:0 against a real B-team. If Van Basten does the same this Tuesday he's going to be pelted with eggs and tomatoes, tarred, feathered and hung out to dry on the Matterhorn (south flank).
Having the referee a null a valid goal and all the shenanigans with the penalties kicks later on didn´t help any either....~:rolleyes:
not that I didn´t see it coming....what happened yesterday was a result of us playing our b-side and a referee that was willing to give the Swiss their feel-good moment....why not against a side that was already assured the top spot in the group?....the reactions from the Portuguese side were very restrained considering what went on with the referee....I think there was a very clear understanding of what going on and they just let it slide.
an organizing country puts a lot of money into these things and a certain "consideration" is expected......hell....Portugal itself sure got a few nudges in our road to the final in 2004 ourselfs. :sweatdrop: ~;)
Having the referee a null a valid goal and all the shenanigans with the penalties kicks later on didn´t help any either....~:rolleyes:
not that I didn´t see it coming....what happened yesterday was a result of us playing our b-side and a referee that was willing to give the Swiss their feel-good moment....why not against a side that was already assured the top spot in the group?....the reactions from the Portuguese side were very restrained considering what went on with the referee....I think there was a very clear understanding of what going on and they just let it slide.
Not really clear to me. Mind filling me in here? Yes, perhaps the Swiss were a little lucky at times and perhaps some decisions may have gone their way, but then we were unlucky in the first two matches (especially the first). I would call that poetic justice, nothing more , nothing less. I agree with you on the goal...disagree on the penalty.
an organizing country puts a lot of money into these things and a certain "consideration" is expected......hell....Portugal itself sure got a few nudges in our road to the final in 2004 ourselfs. :sweatdrop: ~;)
I think that is a stretch!
Never mind, we're out and you won the group. I wish you all the best in your next match. Should be a good'un!
Quid
FactionHeir
06-16-2008, 17:44
Hmmm
Germany 2:1 Austria
Croatia 1:0 Poland
Dutch_guy
06-16-2008, 17:58
Ok then:
Germany 2:0 Austria
Croatia 1:1 Poland
Can't see the Germans doing anything silly against the Austrians, should be an easy game actually. Poland I'll fight for what it's worth against a Croatian B team, but I doubt they're able to press on and do what they need to do in this match.
:balloon2:
woad&fangs
06-16-2008, 18:13
Germany 2-0 Austria
Poland 0-1 Croatia
:mad:
scotchedpommes
06-16-2008, 19:27
Proper humpty indeed.
Matchday 10 Predictions
Austria 0-2 Germany (2045)
[I'd love to be wrong, really, but I can't bet against them. I also can't make this a sure bet as I think
we know the Austrians will give their all for this one. Give us a few good howlers, Lemon.]
Poland 1-2 Croatia (2045)
[Never a team to lie down for games. More creativity and more up front than the Poles, I can't see
much else happening.]
Quintus.JC
06-16-2008, 19:40
Leader board updated. With yesterday's surprise results there is very little changes in the table with only 3 people gaining any points at all.
Quintus.JC
06-16-2008, 19:56
Match Day ?
Final Predictions
Italy 2 - 1 France
Netherlands 3 - 1 Romania
LeftEyeNine
06-16-2008, 20:43
Kudos to the Viennamese hosts of the tournament for stuffing me with every tidbit of my pre-tournament comment on them. These guys know how to attack indeed. If only they had some classy striker.
Ser Clegane
06-16-2008, 21:42
1 - 0
at least made it to the quarterfinals again after the terrible last two Euros. Our team will have to do much better to stand a chance against Portugal...
France - Italy 2 - 1
Netherlands - Romania 1 - 1
Adrian II
06-16-2008, 21:51
Ladies and gentlemen, I believe Germany is no longer an issue in this tournament.
Louis VI the Fat
06-16-2008, 22:06
Germany was crap again. Where's the fun team from two years ago? ~:confused:
Ladies and gentlemen, I believe Germany is no longer an issue in this tournament.:smash:
Afonso I of Portugal
06-16-2008, 22:55
If Van Basten does the same this Tuesday he's going to be pelted with eggs and tomatoes, tarred, feathered and hung out to dry on the Matterhorn (south flank).
Are you serious? If Van Basten puts the B-Team he's a target? well, tomorrow morning you should go shopping, because unless he changes his mind while sleeping (bad dreams about the fans...:laugh4:) thats what is going to happen, but don't hit your tv set...:laugh4:
Regarding Croatia, they played without 9! starting elevens. It's true they played better than us but Poland also played worst than the Swiss...furthermore Croatia didn't saw a clean goal cancelled neither a clear penalty not given. The rest was the same...
About quarter-finals, i think Germany is an issue as they are favourites against us, but let's wait and see...
Afonso I of Portugal
06-16-2008, 23:00
Match Day 11 Predictions
Italy 1 - 1 France
Netherlands 1 - 2 Romania
Dutch_guy
06-16-2008, 23:05
About quarter-finals, i think Germany is an issue as they are favourites against us, but let's wait and see...
Nah, don't think they are actually. The Portugese have been playing quite well thus far, better than the Germans I'd say.
:balloon2:
Adrian II
06-16-2008, 23:07
Are you serious? If Van Basten puts the B-Team he's a target?No, if he brings the B-team and loses.
Frags is right, the Dutch team is fragile awesomeness/awesome fragility, and it will not easily shrug off such a loss.
Gaius Scribonius Curio
06-17-2008, 02:27
Predictions:
France 1 - 1 Italy
Holland 2 - 1 Romania
Match Day 11
Italy 2-1 France
Holland 3-0 Romania
LittleGrizzly
06-17-2008, 04:11
Match Day 11
Italy 1-1 France
Holland 1-1 Romania
Romania to go through!
Predictions:
France 1 - 0 Italy
France can probably pip this one.
Holland 2 - 0 Romania
Holland's "B" team is still amazing! They'll win, easily.
Mediolanicus
06-17-2008, 09:07
Match Day 11
Italy 1-1 France
Holland 2-2 Romania
Let's hope Romania goes through...
Maych Day 12
Greece 0-2 Spain
Russia 0-2 Sweden
Day 11
Italy 1 - 3 France
I thought France actually played okay against Holland, and think they have enough to beat Italy, who really have never got going...
Holland 1 - 2 Romania
More hope than judgment....
Day 12
Greece 0 - 2 Spain
Greece have been awful so far...
Russia 1 - 2 Sweden
Not sure about this one, but Sweden impressed me against Spain, Russia didn't.
:2thumbsup:
Match Day 11
Italy 1-2 France
Holland 2-0 Romania
Match Day 12:
Greece 0-0 Spain
Russia 0-1 Sweden
Greece-Spain: The result is meaningless and I can't really see how any goals can come out of a game between the Spanish B-team and the famous Greek 10-0-0 formation. Possible candidate for most boring game of the tournament, I certainly won't be watching. Anyone seen anything good at the cinema I could go and see instead?
Russia-Sweden: Essentially a knock-out game in the group stages, it's not going to be pretty, but the Swedish defence looks pretty sturdy and I can't see the Russians breaking through it, while the Swedes have the extra class needed going forwards to win the game and qualify for the quarters.
Adrian II
06-17-2008, 12:24
This morning I have read the entrails of a hamster. The signs are good for small nations, though Romania will make a very explosive start in an attempt to unhinge the Dutch machine.
Day 11
Final prediction
Italy 1:1 France
Netherlands 3:1 Romania
The signs are good for small nations
That's because you read the entrails of a hamster. If you read the entrails of an ageing hippopotamus then Italy would definitely get the nod.
:tomato2:
cegorach
06-17-2008, 14:29
God, I am glad our team ended its pathetic struggle.
The 'fellowship of the ring' consisted from one super-human goalkeeper (Legolas ?), one imported Aragorn and a number of drunken and exhausted hobbits who were not even lucky.
We should nonetheless qualify for the WC considering who is in our group (and because we recently simply do regardless who we face) and during Euro 2012 we don't need to.
I hope something changes because it would be humilating to see another 'dreamteam' struggling against anyone for one, honest goal and because I would have the Euro literally at home.
For once I would like to have better players than supporters who as always were too good for this team and as always were smeared by tabloids which as always was not true.
ON the other hand it shouldn't mean home grown hooligans will lead the stage this time - they can't afford to travel abroad (don't ask me how, but I guess baseball bats and knives must be exhausting their money supply), but stirring truble here might be much easier.
scotchedpommes
06-17-2008, 14:45
Unsure which way to go with tonight's games. Just thought to mention though, as I'm not sure
anyone has brought it up: should the France - Italy game finish goalless [as did their last meeting]
Romania would qualify even with a loss, assuming it's not by three clear goals.
woad&fangs
06-17-2008, 15:59
France 2-1 Italy
Holland 3-1 Romania
:mad:
It appears I missed yesterday for some weird reason.
anyway...
Day 11:
France 2-1 Italy
Netherlands 1:1 Romania
that's if the dutch field a b-team, too lazy to look it up now.
Proletariat
06-17-2008, 18:02
Italy 2 1 France
Holland 1 2 Romania
The Stranger
06-17-2008, 18:25
a 2-2 tie between france and italy
a 1-2 loss for Holland B against Romania
Adrian II
06-17-2008, 18:38
I think you guys are unduly pessimistic about the Dutch 'B-team'. It isnt one, not really. The main screws and bolts are still in place with Robben, Van Persie, Boulharouz. The real issue is whether Afellay (who is an excellent player in his own right) will be up to his role as centre attacker, or will have to be replaced by Van Nistelrooy after all.
The guys on Van Bastens list for today are all good, professional and in great shape. I would almost want to engage in a separate bet with those Orgahs who predict a Dutch loss - but that would be outside the scope of this thread.
Afellay will score tonight. :yes:
Craterus
06-17-2008, 18:47
Netherlands 2 - 1 Romania
France 2 - 1 Italy
Lots of second-guessing with these bets but this are my final predictions. Just couldn't bear to put my faith in Italy again to have them lose. I also have yet to score any points on group C games. Terrible.
Louis VI the Fat
06-17-2008, 18:51
Things are not looking good! :furious3:
Coupet (keeper) openly admits that he feels insecure at goal. (Then say so before the tournament, eh? :wall:)
Toulalan has been nowhere so far. Thuram's aging legs were hopelessly exposed by the speed of Robben. Sagnol hasn't played at Bayern all year, and has been showing just why that was during this tournament. Anelka is being his usual sulky self. Henry is sulking too.
And to think the great hope - the best defender from the Seria A, Mexès, was left out because of his divisive character. As was David '20 goals this season' Trezeguet.
Yet, all we hear is internal strife and division. The Blacks and the Beurs are not getting along. The youngsters claim the oldies are arrogant, the oldies acuse the youngstes of insubordination. The press and the public are ever more questioning the decision to leave Mexès, Trezeguet and Flamini out. And Vieira still can't play tonight, looks like Domenech brought a seriously injured player to the tournament just because of his starsign or whatever. Domenech is not being taken seriously by his players anymore. He wasn't last tournament either, when the older players took over as well. But back then they delivered. :furious3:
Gah! Gah! Gah!
And to think that only a French win will suffice, whereas the macaronis only need a draw. This all depending on the Dutch result in the first place of course.
I say Nasri, Benzema and Diarra should play, together with those players who did well against the Dutch and have shown the past few days that they, in fact, are still willing to put up a fight.
[/whinging and sulking Louis, on the verge of panic]
InsaneApache
06-17-2008, 19:00
Cheer up Louis, look at it this way, when France goes out you can join all us nouveaux dutchys supporting the satsumas.
Italy 1-1 France
Holland 2-0 Romania
atheotes
06-17-2008, 19:28
all or nothing!!!
Italy 2-1 France surebet
Holland 2-1 Romania surebet
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