Ugg the Violent Caveman: A Pre-Historic Murder Mystery [Concluded]

[atheotes]

I havent played many games with Ichigo, but his behaviour this game is similar to Swords in the moon...
Vote: Ichigo

[Iskander 3.1]

Vote: white eyes

[woad&fangs]

Day 5: Part II
https://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9682/ico30.jpg
As the sun sank over the horizon, the Townee tribe reached a decision. They decide creepy eyes more guilty than Ig. The tribe tied Wee (White Eyes :D) to nearby tree and threw big rocks at him until dead.

Still, tribe no want Ig as shaman anymore. Tribe think long and hard about who new shaman should be. Finally, they remember Avasupamaka was good Shaman.

“Be you Shaman again?” asked the tribe.

“Can Avasupamaka make more smash smash as Shaman?” questioned Avasupamaka

“Lots of smash smash!” responded the tribe.

“Shaman Avasupamaka SMASH puny killers!” he exalted.

The tribe drifted off to their resting places, content that their new Shaman would keep them safe…
`````
White Eyes :D has been lynched
A Very Super Market is Shaman for tonight.

Tally
White eyes-6- taka, split, DiY, Lord Winter, White eyes, Iskander
Ichigo-2- Yaropolk, atheotes
`````
Night will last until 3:00 GMT tomorrow. 24 hours.
alive
A Very Super Market
atheotes
Iksander 3.1
Death is Yonder
taka
Beskar
Ichigo
Yaropolk
SplitPersonality
Lord Winter

murdered
Askthepizzaguy
pevergreen
LittleGrizzly
Chaotix
tratorix
Quintus.JC
YLC

Dem-unga-ungad
Sasaki Kojiro
Shinseikhaan
Cultured Drizzt fan
Captain Blackadder
White Eyes :D

[A Very Super Market]

Bonk man, no bonk shaman, okay?

[taka]

avasupamaka, tell story of smash smash saka golf! tell story of smash smash saka golf!

[A Very Super Market]

Lynch taka. ASSOONASEVERYONEWAKESUP

[Tratorix]

avasupamaka, tell story of smash smash saka golf! tell story of smash smash saka golf!

:idea2:

:smash:

:skull:

:yes:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I love this game. I really wish I were still alive.

I enjoy the roleplaying and the caveman talk. I don't care who hates it. :laugh4:

[woad&fangs]

Night 6
https://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1047/dumbneanderthal.jpg
Shaman Avasupamaka (A very Super Market) swing club around happily. If killers attack, he SMASH!!! But killers not attack last night… maybe they really gone? While Avasupamaka was pondering that idea, a young caveman approached him.

“Mr. Shaman, sir,” said the youth, “Can you tell me the story of how you smashed Saka’s head off?”

“Yeah, Avasupamaka tell you story!” Boasted Avasupamaka, “Little Saka man run away and… what that noise?”

“Nothing sir, continue with your story please,” responded the youth.

“But I thinka I heard….”

TWANG! An arrow flew out of the darkness directly at Avasupamaka but he was able to narrowly avoid it. Avasupamaka picked up a rock and threw it forcefully at where the arrow had come from. A muffled "ummph" confirmed that he had hit his target.

“Mr. Shaman sir,” whispered the youth.

“Yes?”

SMACK! The youth had picked up Avasupamaka’s club and bashed him in the knee. Avasupamaka was white with rage. He pick up the youth and begin strangle him until puny eyes bulge. Unfortunately, rage cloud Avasupamaka’s senses. He never hear bloodied caveman walk up behind him. The bloodied caveman used his own club to smash Avasupamaka in the base of the head, sending fragment of skull and brain matter flying.

“Uggh,” was all Avasupamaka could utter before he slouched to the ground, dead.
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Ig (Ichigo) upset with Avasupamaka. Ig should be Shaman! No one killed when Ig Shaman! Ig go give Avasupamaka piece of Ig’s mind! Ig walked over to Avasupamaka’s resting spot. He see dead Avasupamaka! He see killers! Ig unarmed so Ig run away as fast as Ig can. He go back to sleepy spot to find weapon. Ig find club. Ig show killas what Ig made of!

TWANG! Ig made of dead.
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Ichigo and A Very Super Market have been killed. It is now day. Day will last until 3:00 GMT tomorrow. 24 hours.
alive
atheotes
Iksander 3.1
Death is Yonder
taka
Beskar
Yaropolk
SplitPersonality
Lord Winter

murdered
Askthepizzaguy
pevergreen
LittleGrizzly
Chaotix
tratorix
Quintus.JC
YLC
A Very Super Market
Ichigo

Dem-unga-ungad
Sasaki Kojiro
Shinseikhaan
Cultured Drizzt fan
Captain Blackadder
White Eyes :D

[ULC]

I'm betting it's Beskar

[atheotes]

Vote: abstain i will be gone till late sunday night...no internet :bow:

[Lord Winter]

Vote: Isklander

Low Activity. Only votes to avoid the WoG and when he does it is just simple meatballing.


I think Beserker is innocent. Can't prove it, but it's just a gut feeling. A lurking mafia has a different behavior. They seem to make excuses more then apologize and only act when under fire.

[Beskar]

I'm betting it's Beskar

You would accuse me even if I wasn't in the game.

Looking under the list here, I have an idea of legitimate/constant lurkers.

atheotes - Usually Active (his claim about going seems legitimate)
Iskander 3.1 - Dropped out of my mini-mafia due to real life
Death is Yonder - Usually Active
taka - Quiet in Iskanders mini-mafia
Yaropolk - Usually Quiet
SplitPersonality - Usually Active
Lord Winter - Don't know well enough

[Beskar]

Going with reflection of the last rounds, and gut feeling.

Vote: taka - his behaviour is different than three different games I seen him in. Those he was a confirmed townie.

[Death is yonder]

You would accuse me even if I wasn't in the game.

Looking under the list here, I have an idea of legitimate/constant lurkers.

atheotes - Usually Active (his claim about going seems legitimate)
Iskander 3.1 - Dropped out of my mini-mafia due to real life
Death is Yonder - Usually Active
taka - Quiet in Iskanders mini-mafia
Yaropolk - Usually Quiet
SplitPersonality - Usually Active
Lord Winter - Don't know well enough

When there is nothing to go on, there is nothing to discuss on, no?
I admit to lurking though :sweatdrop:
Not many new developments to comment on, if you would prefer I tossed around wild accusations and start huge bandwagons, do suggest it :inquisitive:

[Beskar]

FOS: Death Is Yonder for being overly defensive.

[Death is yonder]

Fos:Death is yonder

For clarifying doubts. :2thumbsup:

[Beskar]

FoS: Death is Yonder for continuing defensive routine.

I wasn't even targeting you, yet you jumped in on some imaginery offensive against you which I called you on, then you continued it.

In fact,
Unvote: taka; Vote: Death is Yonder

I wasn't suspecting you, but your behaviour has given me reason you have something to hide.

[Death is yonder]

Well, I took that list as your lurker list, which you probably thought the mafia was hiding in, and I was in it for lurking and behavior suspicions, so I clarified it, and I'm suspicious to Beskar.

Excellent work Mr Beskar, I must commend you (despite your suspicions against me) for making the only comprehensible detective work thus far in game. :2thumbsup:

[Beskar]

Well, bearing in mind I wasn't even accusing you, it is awfully weird you was ready to jump to defence as logically, there was no reason for you to be defensive at all, unless you was worried that you might have been exposed.

[Death is yonder]

Wasn't even defending, simply clarifying the reasons for my lurk or blah and requesting for other inputs that would be productive rather than just lurking around in thread with little discussion occurring. :laugh4:

[Death is yonder]

Well, here is an attempt at doing some analysis, in spoilers for eye protection :wink:.

Night 1, we probably lost a pro town role from the get go, pever.


pevergreen laid down for sleep. pevergreen felt safe. Shaman may be dead but Shaman did not have Bow-Wow. Bow-Wow keep pevergreen safe.

With these reassuring thoughts, pevergreen drifted off to sleep. By his side, his domesticated wolf, Bow-Wow kept vigil over him. Bow-Wow was alert. Nothing could distract him from the protection of his master….

TWANG!

From the darkness, an arrow flew straight towards pevergreen. The wolf never had a chance to protect its master. The arrow lodged itself in pevergreen’s throat, muffling his cries for help and severing the supply of oxygen to his brain. After a few short moments, pevergreen was dead. The wolf, confused, tried to nudge pevergreen awake. When that failed to awaken him, Bow-Wow began to feast on the still-warm flesh of his ex-master.

Might mean many things, but I'm confused, the implications seem clear enough though, pever was possibly a pro town role of sorts. Unless of course, the killer wrote the whole kill.

ATPG on the other hand, was murdered by the writer styled as "the future man" known for speaking normal words and not cavemen speech. I think this was simply an error on the killers part (again if they are the ones writing it in full), and later continued as the town thought of it greater in depth.

Day 1, Lord Winter made a random argument against me and voted, after this, his activity began dropping off the charts. Taka and Yaro followed rough suit, like the rest of us, all making random votes hidden under cave man speech, which was considered role playing and thus, not abnormal. Iskandar votes for Lord Winter who along with YLC almost got LW lynched instead of Sasaki, this is possibly a link that connects the two, possibly.. possibly..

Night 2, Tratorix is attacked, but saved, and LG was killed. Both made by apparent cavemen writers but its possible the future mafia writer was not present or didn't have time to write a real story, thus leaving the job to Woad.

Day 2, Atheotes appears, and makes cavemen speech, which is becoming typical. Khaan makes his stand against all this cavemen speech and the likelihood that comprehensible discussion is impeded by it. A mini bandwagon on Khaan starts. Yaro votes ATPG for a reason likened to meatballing, especially considering he is dead... Taka joins the Khaan bandwagon and Atheotes makes the usual come and bye. LW tries to promote discussion and fails. Chaotix generally sums up the caveman speech in Post #122. Khaan is lynched, and bandwagonned for trying to make discussion and stop all this caveman speech. Those who voted for him, still alive, Taka only, AVSM just died last night.

Night 3, Tratorix is dead, so is Chaotix. AVSM is targeted, and it seems he survived the night hit, godfather? Or 1 time survival... There is also 1 more kill this time, the future mafia is present as well, him making the attempted hit on AVSM.

Day 3, Discussion rolls on CDF, as AVSM said that he was informed that Tratorix was the investigator but was not saved. CDF later reveals that he was role blocked, which looked genuine, nothing much this round. CDF was lynched as we all couldn't find another suspect :shame:

Night 4, YLC and QJC were both killed in a story continuation saga, highly likely done by same family or person as the two kills were related. Seemingly, both kills are made by the future mafia, could be that his kills were boosted up. Possibly due to the fact that his teammate was killed/lynched... :inquisitive:

Day 4, Iskandar still hides behind the role play banter, despite most of us having dropped it off already. Atheotes turns up and says he needs to read through, but 4 hours later when round ends, still no input from him. :inquisitive:

Night 5, bad time for town as Woad suggests.


There were no deaths tonight. However, there are at least 2 players who still need to be eliminated for a town victory and more deaths may occur in future night phases.


This is bad... and the still at least 2 DOES NOT HELP ANYTHING AT ALL. On another note, the poem,
"It was the night before equinox
And all through the cavern
Not a creature was stirring
Not even a smilodon

Suggests that the end is near. I think we might lose if we don't buck up our game now.

Day 5, Split is starting to look a bit suspicious, Yaropolk is looking like his usual end game mafia performance.

Night 6, Ichigo and AVSM are killed, an odd move by mafia, Ichigo was picking up some flak, although by Yaro and Atheotes, possibly... to make themselves seem less suspicious?

Day 6, Nothing much yet. Beskar seems normal, nothing out of place for him except a little less activity than usual, like the rest of us.

In conclusion, either so many people are suspicious, and thus we are going to lose, or we're just not discussing enough. We are also probably down a investigator and a protector role. Role blocker/ saver? Who knows...


Vote: Splitpersonality

I'm gonna go with my gut on this one

[Yaropolk]

Night 4, YLC and QJC were both killed in a story continuation saga, highly likely done by same family or person as the two kills were related. Seemingly, both kills are made by the future mafia, could be that his kills were boosted up. Possibly due to the fact that his teammate was killed/lynched... :inquisitive:


This may be true, but it's a hell of a stretch to this conclusion unless you have some insider info that you decided to present as "conclusions."



Night 6, Ichigo and AVSM are killed, an odd move by mafia, Ichigo was picking up some flak, although by Yaro and Atheotes, possibly... to make themselves seem less suspicious?


When only 2 people voted for Ichigo, how does killing him take attention away from those 2? If I was mafia I'd much rather be hiding in the group of people that didn't vote for Ichigo.

Vote DIY for having too much info and presenting the illogical conclusion on last night's kill.

[Death is yonder]

So tossing around possibilities and trying to make sense of all this cave man speech is warranted a smash on the head eh?

This is the LATE GAME and there is hardly any discussion/ in game detective work.


This may be true, but it's a hell of a stretch to this conclusion unless you have some insider info that you decided to present as "conclusions."


It may be a big stretch but who knows? It could be correct for all WE know. We don't know anything, not even the exact number of mafia, ANYTHING could be correct and we wouldn't know. Think of it this way, the mafia get 2 kills a night, no matter what or how many mafia there are. There are 2+ mafia to do the job, so there is always a mafia inactive at night, until now. Mafia have died without us knowing it, we can't even tell who was guilty when they die. So what if, now there is 1 mafia (that particular family), so they get to kill 2? This is not the Godfather series Yaropolk, its not as if when one mafia dies the kills drop by 1. Its not a far stretch, its actually quite possible. I fail to see why you are defending something like that so minor and insignificant that I wasn't even considering as the main point in my accusations and analysis to such an extent. It was a simple possibility that I tossed around.


When only 2 people voted for Ichigo, how does killing him take attention away from those 2? If I was mafia I'd much rather be hiding in the group of people that didn't vote for Ichigo.

WIFOM :bounce:


for having too much info and presenting the illogical conclusion on last night's kill.

I sourced all my info from re-reading through the entire thread from page 1, most of it simply tells the story of what happened along with my personal input. Its not as if I'm claiming my personal input is the law or heaven's mandate, its just my personal input.

Come on Yaropolk, you can do better. Tell me a better reason why you want me dead. Don't hide behind the huge wall of text. It is illogical to you as it implicates you? Very acute!

You might want to ask yourself, if Beskar looked like he certainly was going to stick to Taka this round, why would I toss myself as a lynch candidate out of the blue, suddenly go high profile and do all this. Cause I'm an attention seeker? Cause I'm trying to re-direct the suspicion off me? Then I'm doing a very poor job of it. Some things are WIFOM, other things are just common sense, please, you can do better. Your play in this game is similar to all your other mafia/godfather plays, silent and input here and there.

Any info present in my spoiler tags are blatantly available from any one who bothers to read. So trying to make analysis in a game where many participants alive at the moment who claim to be stumped due to the nature of the game where lack of information is the crux of the problem, is called "having too much info".

Unvote; Splitpersonality
Vote:Yaropolk

Over defensive? Please... I'm suppose to let you sit around and cruise to a basically lurker victory? Past games have shown that you have totally no qualms of practically lurking to a mafia victory, I fail to see why it would be any different. In case you think this is my main argument, try reading the top again :yes:.

Well now, off to bed, try expecting a reply in 8 hours. Feel free to comb the thread, confirm the fact that all my information is from personal input and from thread mainly. Plenty of time for you people to accuse me of overreacting. :beam:

Good Day
:smile:

[taka]

bezka bad man, me vote: Beskar for now

why bezka bad man? i don't know, guts go rumble rumble...

[Beskar]

bezka bad man, me vote: Beskar for now

That is a pure OMGUS vote.

[Yaropolk]

DIY - thats a revenge vote

[Lord Winter]

That is a pure OMGUS vote.

You changed your vote off him though. Did you not?


Isklader 1 (Lord Winter)
Death is Yonder: 1 (beserker)
Yarpolk: 1 (Death is Yonder)
Beserker: 1 (taka)
abstain 1 (atheos)

[Beskar]

You changed your vote off him though. Did you not?


But he did it because I voted for him originally.

[Yaropolk]

You changed your vote off him though. Did you not?


Isklader 1 (Lord Winter)
Death is Yonder: 1 (beserker)
Yarpolk: 1 (Death is Yonder)
Beserker: 1 (taka)
abstain 1 (atheos)

You didnt count my vote for DIY

[Lord Winter]

Isklader 1 (Lord Winter)
Death is Yonder: 2 (beserker, Yarpolk)
Yarpolk: 1 (Death is Yonder)
Beserker: 1 (taka)
abstain 1 (atheos)

[Splitpersonality]

How exactly am I looking suspicious?

*Looks down at self* I look the same as I always do :l

[Tratorix]

I'm surprised no one has jumped on the fact that as soon as someone said "I think Beskar is guilty" Beskar started trying to generate discussion.

[A Very Super Market]

I must reveal, I was Ugg! Bum-bum-bum!

My victory conditions? I was a townie, but I had to kill anyone who voted for me. I was going to kill Lord Winter this night, and I already killed Chaotix.

[Lord Winter]

Beserker's attack on DIY for no reason has started to errod my faith in his innocence. Rereading the thread his behavior matches the reasons I gave for my vote on Isklader. As no one likes my Isklader case I'm going to create the tie and see what happens.

Unvote: Isklader
Vote: Beserker

[Death is yonder]

DIY - thats a revenge vote

Cycle of events:
Beskar gunning for Taka
DIY supposedly does something suspicious
Beskar changes to DIY
Yaropolk votes for DIY with extremely poor reasoning that doesn't fit
DIY votes for Yaro
Beskar now on chopping block


Stop avoiding the accusations Yaropolk, I don't make a huge wall of reasonable text for you to answer with a one liner that is mostly unrelated or a minute part of the whole thing.

Taka, stop hiding behind cave man speech, it may be role playing, but you myaswell rephrase your whole post to.
"Vote:Beskar I think he's suspicious

[woad&fangs]

Day 6
https://img30.imageshack.us/img30/6333/neanderthal3.jpg

Townee tribe gather once more. This time tribe know killas still there. Much talk talk. Talk talk last long into day. Beska (Beskar) and Yon (Death is Yonder) gather most votes but tribe not sure. Tribe need more time to thinka. The Townee lit their fires and prepare to Dem-unga-unga into dusky time.
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There is a tie between Death is Yonder and Beskar. Day phase will be extended 24 hours. You may vote for anyone. If there is still a tie after 24 hours, a player will be chosen at random to be lynched.

tally
Death is yonder-2-(Beskar, Yaropolk)
Beskar-2-(taka, Lord Winter)
Yaropolk-(Death is Yonder)
Abstain- (atheotes)

[Beskar]

Actually, it is not a tie, there was a vote for Beserker not Beskar (completely different) it would be like me voting for Lucy Wibbles and it being counted towards Lord Winter.

Other then that, that was a scummy move by Lord Winter, possibly Lord Winter was trying to defend his Mafia partner from being lynched. My vote on Death is Yonder wasn't ungrounded, it was based on the fact he kept jumping to his defence when I never accused him of anything, in essence, a paranoid Mafia.

The fact taka never actually made any real case at all, other then going OMGUS voting because I thought his behaviour was suspicious is also scummy, hiding behind Caveman speech. Traitorix's point was completely off the mark.

[Death is yonder]

If that is true then I'm lynched. So be it.

:shrug:

As for me, Yaropolk is too suspicious to be left alive. I made an analysis and he called me out on "having too much info" when I merely sourced all of it in thread, which basically means either he PURPOSELY ignores it, or he just doesn't bother to read as he wants me dead, as it looks like I'm the likelier lynch as Beskar is already seemingly going to stick with me (which he has). He also called me out on supposed "choosing the illogical conclusion" when I was merely dishing out possibilities. Mr Yaropolk, you have overextended yourself. Prepare to be lynched! :whip:

I am going to

Vote:Abstain

I'll leave it to town to decide my fate, life is sweet of course, but I'd rather have you all decide. We have 2 (probably) bad lynch candidates for the tie. I blame Yaropolk for the tie.

[Yaropolk]

I blame Yaropolk for the tie.

You truly are a master of sophistry sir! I did not cast the tie vote.

vote DIY

[Death is yonder]

You did not cast the tie vote but you contributed to the tie.

Why must you always take my statements so literally.

:shrug:

Yet another one liner from Yaropolk. I rarely see you contribute to discussion :inquisitive:

[Beskar]

Unfortunately, I have to go offline and I have been busy all day.

I am going to Vote: Death is Yonder , his actions yesterday are my reason. Also, I am pointing a massive FoS: Lord Winter for his actions yesterday as he went "let's see what happens in a tie" when we have had a couple of ties already. he was most likely trying to say Death is Yonder as DIY is his Mafia partner. I propose Lord Winter be lynched next round.

OMGUS award just goes to taka.

[Splitpersonality]

Vote: Death is yonder

[Death is yonder]

:bow:


he was most likely trying to say Death is Yonder as DIY is his Mafia partner. I propose Lord Winter be lynched next round.

Hello, hello, hello... I wasn't suspicious of you until you said that line.

Unvote; Abstain
Vote: Beskar

Town has probably going to lost this one :cry:

The extra kills that Woad mentioned haven't kicked in yet. :sweatdrop:

Lemme take a guess now, the mafia is Beskar and Yaropolk. If there is any other scum, its either taka or split, or both.

Good game, :bow:

[Splitpersonality]

If I turn out to be evil I will **** myself, because there was nothing about it in MY role pm :l

[Death is yonder]

Beskar is the mafia. :skull:

If he isn't, I will eat my words, and my hood. :yes:

[woad&fangs]

Day 6: Part II
https://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9415/lightningl.jpg
Storm clouds brewed over conversing Townee tribe. Tribe wish to find sleepy spots quick before rain come.

RUMBLE….RUMBLE

The distant sound of thunder could be heard in the distance. After much talk talk, Townee make almost unanimous choice. Yonda (Death is Yonder) next to be dem-unga-ungad.

RUMBLE…RUMBLE…KKKEEERRAAACCKKKKK!!!!

Just as tribe deciding how to kill Yonda, big bright noise come from up and blow Yonda to bits. Miraculously, rest of tribe okay. Tribe quickly go to sleepy spots to find shelter from storm.

Lawi (Lord Winter) picked up the fancy shaman hat. With two dead ex-shamans last night. No one else want touch it.
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Death is Yonder has been lynched.
Lord Winter is the Shaman for tonight.

Tally
Death is Yonder-3-(Yaropolk, Beskar, Split)
Beskar- (Death is Yonder)
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It is now Night. Night will last until 3:00 GMT tomorrow. 24 hours.
alive
atheotes
Iksander 3.1
taka
Beskar
Yaropolk
SplitPersonality
Lord Winter

murdered
Askthepizzaguy
pevergreen
LittleGrizzly
Chaotix
tratorix
Quintus.JC
YLC
A Very Super Market
Ichigo

Dem-unga-ungad
Sasaki Kojiro
Shinseikhaan
Cultured Drizzt fan
Captain Blackadder
White Eyes :D
Death is Yonder

[Death is yonder]

:daisy: :daisy:

We are probably going to lose. This was an easy win for the mafia.

:daisy: :daisy:

[seireikhaan]

I told you you guys should have stopped caveman-speak. Waaaaaaaaay too easy to lurk in the crowd when all anyone says is "urgh, me vote: personx". :shrug:

[ULC]

I told you you guys should have stopped caveman-speak. Waaaaaaaaay too easy to lurk in the crowd when all anyone says is "urgh, me vote: personx". :shrug:

Who is this personx? Is he guilty?

[Beskar]

FoS: Lightning killing Death is Yonder

[Death is yonder]

Well, well, well.

When the extra kills roll in I'll say "I told you so"

~D :bounce:

[White_eyes:D]

I told you you guys should have stopped caveman-speak. Waaaaaaaaay too easy to lurk in the crowd when all anyone says is "urgh, me vote: personx". :shrug:
I know....such a weird reason to vote people off, makes it super-easy for Mafia to just slip into the crowd....:juggle2: I was lynched for my "Eyes"?? you guys all need to go back to looking at the facts and I bet Yaroplok is Mafia again:furious3: (why I didn't vote "Ichigo"....I knew he was innocent:laugh4:)

[woad&fangs]

Night 7
https://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8891/flute.jpg

Rumble…Rumble…Keerraaccckkk!!!

Another lightning bolt split the night sky. Splot (Splitpersonality) jerked awake. Splot hate light from up. Splot no sleep when big boom comes. But Splot use time awake well. Splot make something. Something to protect from future men. Splot take flat, palm sized rock and make one side sharp. Then splot use sinew to tie to short stick. “Ha ha,” said Splot, future man in for big surprise!

“And what, pray tell, is so funny,” said a figure in the shadows.

Splot no dumb dumb. He know future man have arrows so Splot charge. The shadowy figure was unprepared for the charge. He was forced to drop his bow and grab for his spear. Splot swing with new weapon and cut spear in half! Future man take step back and then grab club. The two circle each other several times. Then, Splot swing new weapon with all his might at future man. But future man rolled out of the way. He roll right to bow and arrows! He quickly string arrow and fire it, hitting splot in spleen. He then pick up pointy half of spear and stab Splot to finish him off.

The shadowy “future man” picked up Splot’s weapon.

“This is certainly a useful little thing. I think I’ll call it an… axe.”

He then walked back into the shadows.
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Storm keep Ote (atheotes) awake too. Ote spend his time working on new weapon too! He take deer femur and hollow out marrow. Ote save marrow to eat later. Then Ote use sharp rock to poke holes up and down femur. Ote make it light so Ote can swing real fast! Ote make killa dead killa!

“Hello there,” said a voice behind Ote.

Ote grin. He know only killa be awake at night. Ote turned around and swung his new weapon as hard as he could at the caveman’s head…. SNAP…. The fragile “weapon” broke in half when it connected with the caveman’s head.

“Uh Oh,” Said Ote.
“Uh oh, indeed,” replied the caveman, who then proceeded to crack Ote’s skull with an axe.
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Splitpersonality and atheotes have been killed. It is now day. Day will last until 3:00 GMT tomorrow. 24 hours. In order for the town to win, they need to get a correct lynch today and tomorrow, as well as succesfully preventing a kill tomorrow night(If I have my math right):sweatdrop:
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There’s actually been some pretty cool caveman news recently. In addition to scientists working on decoding the Neanderthal genome, a 35,000-year-old flute (http://www.gazette.com/articles/flute-57201-conard-years.html) was discovered in a cave in Germany a couple weeks ago.

alive
Iksander 3.1
taka
Beskar
Yaropolk
Lord Winter

murdered
Askthepizzaguy
pevergreen
LittleGrizzly
Chaotix
tratorix
Quintus.JC
YLC
A Very Super Market
Ichigo
SplitPersonality
atheotes

Dem-unga-ungad
Sasaki Kojiro
Shinseikhaan
Cultured Drizzt fan
Captain Blackadder
White Eyes :D
Death is Yonder

[Death is yonder]

Splitpersonality and atheotes have been killed. It is now day. Day will last until 3:00 GMT tomorrow. 24 hours. In order for the town to win, they need to get a correct lynch today and tomorrow, as well as succesfully preventing a kill tomorrow night(If I have my math right):sweatdrop:


Beskar and Yaropolk need to die.

[Lord Winter]

Vote: Abstain

Rereading the thread, will post my observations and real vote when I can.

[White_eyes:D]

Vote: Abstain

Rereading the thread, will post my observations and real vote when I can.

Lord Winter is guilty

[Lord Winter]

Support?

[Csargo]

Beskar is the best candidate for the lynch I can see. He's playing a lot different from his normal style. But I'm just a dead caveman.:shrug:

[White_eyes:D]

Support?

Call it a "gut feeling":wink: (I mean why Vote:abstain??....only a Mafia who is close to winning but does not want to lose it would do that....Khaan can confirm this....:laugh4:)

[Death is yonder]

Beskar is the best candidate for the lynch I can see. He's playing a lot different from his normal style. But I'm just a dead caveman.:shrug:

If your not going to agree with me, agree with Ichigo.

:wink:

If its not Yaro and Beskar, then its Beskar and LW.

[Lord Winter]

I said I wanted to read the thread before we voted for potentially the last time. Beserker was acting scummy last round but Isklander, Yarpolk and Taka have all lurked their way through the game. There's no clear cut choice here.

[Death is yonder]

Support?

So we're going to say you've been making random votes all game long, rarely participating, keeping a low profile, and now, in whats practically the final chance(s) for town, you abstain, even when the direction and probable evidence/behavior is practically presented to you on a silver platter/ only requires re-reading.

Beskar is still the better lynch this round. :yes:

Edit:
I said I wanted to read the thread before we voted for potentially the last time. Beserker was acting scummy last round but Isklander, Yarpolk and Taka have all lurked their way through the game. There's no clear cut choice here.

Firstly, its been 2 hours since you said that. I don't think it takes that long to look through the thread, unless your scrutinizing the very meaning of every word that a player has said.

Secondly, Why do you keep referring to Beskar as Beserker.

Thirdly, "Beserker was acting scummy last round but Iskandar, Yaropolk and Taka have all lurked their way through the game"

Aren't you in the same category? Stop avoiding the accusation and trying to redirect the attention.

Fourthly, the clear cut choice is Beskar. Its called, prioritizing. :stare:

[Lord Winter]

I wouldn't call my votes random. I've given reasons for all my votes except in the first round. I've been more active then many . Taka little participation, Isklander none, Yarpolk also very small. So what makes me the better candidate over them?

[Lord Winter]

Response to DIY's edit:

I was doing other things in those two hours. I'm going through the thread now.

[White_eyes:D]

A townie would vote first....:wink: but a mafia would only prevent a WOG or make it seem like he is here trying to help town actively.....your guilty of both....:smash:

[Lord Winter]

It was a placeholder vote. I'm not going to end the round with it still in place.

[White_eyes:D]

It was a placeholder vote. I'm not going to end the round with it still in place.

GH used that a lot as Mafia.....where is it?.....here it is...
I think a new tactic is needed.

Vote: Abstain

For now. Man, what a classic.....it was hilarious but he caught on:juggle2:....:laugh4:

I have a gripe - technically, "abstain" means you have no preference as to who is lynched, and is more to indicate your continued particpation. There has always been a difference between that and "no lynch".

Anyways, Vote: White Eyes HE EVEN admitted it himself.....:beam:

[Lord Winter]

Unvote: abstain
Vote: Beskar

I'm tired, I have to get up early, I'm going to bed. I'll answer accusations in the morning.

Also White eyes I bet I could find a lot of abstains that were innocent too. Just because a mafioso did it once doesn't make it scummy.

For beskar same reasons as last round. I'm still hesitant about Isklander and co getting a free pass through the game if they're scum, but beskar wasn't exactly the best early game either. Plus I don't like his aggressive defense last round.

[taka]

right, i've started reading from night 5 and here's my take on it.

I think Beskar and Lord Winter are the mafia. Their interactions just seem a bit scummy, especially when Lord Winter voted for Beserker as opposed to Beskar, and when Beskar went overly protective when I just randomly voted for him calling it a OMGUS vote.


I also don't like how they kind of put attention on each other but nothing happens later. Then theres the occasional vote for each other but not really voting for them (includes Fos'ing and unvotes)

Vote: Beskar

Looking at Lord Winter's wording of his last post, I bet that if Beskar was to be in a pinch he would unvote and vote for another. All we need to do is to confirm this by getting someone else to vote for Beskar till the end whilst having the other two votes on two different individuals just incase Lord Winter is able to switch his vote and either tie/lynch someone else.

[Beskar]

All the accusations against me are incorrect. If you actually seen me play as a Mafia, you will know I am not a Mafia as I actually pay full attention to the game, and I wouldn't out of the blue, start actually bring myself into suspicion. If I was actually Mafia with these accusations on me, I would be the most retarded Mafia in existence. Why would I vote Ichigo then kill him in the night phase? I racked up a bandwagon, I will let the next bandwagon take care of it, giving me a free day without a lynch. Simple tactics always work the best.

I don't even know this theory where I am apparently working with Lord Winter comes from, the fact I gave him a lot of stick over him tying the vote still annoys me and reeks of foul play. However, lets look at why I am getting votes. You have Death Is Yonder who is doing it simply for revenge, that is one vote discredited, you have taka as I pointed him out as being a highly possoble Mafia, again, this is a revenge vote. you have Lord Winter who acted scummy last round, possible Mafia trying to hide in a bandwagon trying to protect Death Is Yonder who hasn't been confirmed as town or Mafia.

There is something you are all missing, the host said the kills will increase, and this round, it was only two kills. If you think of it as Death is Yonder dying thus stopping one of the normal votes, this means Lord Winter now possibly has two kills per night opposed to his old one. Death is Yonder and Lord Winter are possibly playing a game of trying to put suspicion on me, as then he has free-range to kill everyone.

Vote: Lord Winter

[Death is yonder]

Because I know who I am, even if I don't know who Lord Winter is, I have now confirmed that Beskar is the mafia, personally of course. Unless he is a very very very distracted townie.

The game has now just become a game of convincing the remaining townies between Beskar and Lord Winter.

Statistically,

alive
Iksander 3.1
taka
Beskar
Yaropolk
Lord Winter

Game is over in 2 day phases, or 1 night phase, if we choose badly, 1 day phase.

This phase, 1 person dies. Leaving it at four.

The game HAS either 1 mafia, and 1 person like AVSM who is townie, but we need to get rid of, or 2 mafia.

Either that, or there is 1 mafia, and 1 SK. Heck, it could even be 1 townie mafia guy, and 1 SK.

We don't know.

On the assumption that we get a "scum" so to speak, we have 4 left, if the remaining scum could kill twice, the game would already be over for town, which it isn't, according to woad.

Hence, we have 2 scums, but they are not necessarily together. Which may be precisely why town can win, even if they have more kills.

In fact, it is entirely possible the game for town now is totally dependent on both scum hitting each other at night, as in, if both scum target townies, then we are doomed, and it is either a draw, or one of them kills the other scum as well, making his victory.

In the event that it is the townie scum, so to speak, and the mafia/SK who can kill twice per night or even thrice, then the game is over unless it is similar to AVSM's ability, which simply confuses things more. AVSM could kill, but only if the person voted for him. So if the scum voted for the person who is similar to AVSM, hence, the possibility of winning arises.

So many theories... so confusing!


You have Death Is Yonder who is doing it simply for revenge

Revenge on the town for lynching a mafia? Or revenge on the mafia for lynching a town? :stare:

[Beskar]

Revenge on town for lynching a Mafia.

[Death is yonder]

What nonsense.

Bye Bye!! ~:wave:

A vote for Beskar is a vote towards town victory.

Using the excuse of it being a possible last round to discredit me? There are two people desperate now. The mafia is desperate to end it now, rather than risk it all next round. The town is desperate to prolong the game, so that we have a shot of winning.

Your belated behavioral talk of me being vengeful and desperate does little to prove anything. There are always two sides of the coin.

Nice try Beskar, even if you fool the rest of the town, you don't fool me :laugh4:

:stare:

Now, accept your fate like a nice little mafia and we will just refresh your mind with a most enlightening bonk. :viking:

[Beskar]

I am not mafia, so a vote for me, is a vote for your own deaths (other than the mafia, who will just laugh)

Thanks for ensuring the town loses, Death Is Yonder, if they follow your lead.

[Death is yonder]

Playing the conscience card isn't going to work.

My mind is set and whether the town follows me or not is totally up to them. I am not forcing them to voting for you, I am giving them extra things to consider to aid them in their decision. Its not following my lead, it is making a calculated decision based on both their personal feeling and opinion as well as a slight nudge from me. Its not as if I'm saying,

LYNCH BESKAR NOW, YOU BETTER DO IT, I IS THE CORRECT ONE, DO IT!! COME ON!! STOP STALLING... DO IT!

I'm just exploring all possibilities so you don't make a blind shot in the dark.

I THINK you are the mafia, I didn't say, OMG, I AM THE DETECTIVE, LISTEN TO ME NOW! I HAS GUILTY RESULT ON BESKAR AND HE IS THE MAFIA, LYNCH HIM!

So if you are town, I will admit I am wrong, and claim responsibility for leading town astray, especially if Taka was mafia. (You have to admit, this sounds a bit like the last round in Godfather III... where Taka is written as the godfather in the fake write up)

I will even eat my hood and hang my head in shame for getting led astray in 2 very recent games. And join the failed townie association as a failure.

I'm still fairly confident that you are scum.

[ULC]

I got a guilty result on Beskar a few nights ago, was hoping to find another one before revealing, but ended up getting knocked off.

[Beskar]

Faking it for out of game sense of revenge is pretty low.

[ULC]

Faking it for out of game sense of revenge is pretty low.

I'm not Beskar - but if you really want to invalidate my statement by trying to claim it is vengeance, go ahead. You just look petty that way.

[Beskar]

Yes, you are not me, as I wouldn't do that. :beam:

You're YLC and done it in several games.

[ULC]

Yes, you are not me, as I wouldn't do that. :beam:

You're YLC and done it in several games.

No, see, everytime I did so, I did so for fun, because the tom, and jerry thing was kinda cute and it was harmless.

This has no relation to it Beskar, and I find it in poor taste for you to imply my character is less then honest. True, I conveniently avoid the truth or tell half truths, but I rarely outright lie.

Your guilty Beskar, face it - the only reason you and whoever your partner is isn't lynch fodder is because you knocked me off because I was playing to cautious.

[Yaropolk]

http://img188.yfrog.com/img188/8071/roflbothdje.jpg


Vote: Beskar

[Beskar]

ROFL, good photoshop.

Well, looks like the town is screwed then. The vengeful ghost of Banquo (in the form of Death Is Yonder) and friends.

Ugg goes boom.

Unvote; Vote: Beskar

[Askthepizzaguy]

Listen, everyone loves a good Hitler joke, but I'd better not see any baby-eating. If you're going to do that, at LEAST have the decency to eat them in the dining room, where it is polite. By the way, you can get them half-price down at the Shop-N-Save if you bring in your cannibal coupon.

[Death is yonder]

Looks like Beskar isn't the only one bored enough to photoshop pictures :laugh4:

Look Beskar, your kind of defense isn't aiding my addled mind which is already confused due to the ambiguity of it all... everything is... not clear.

The game where there is even random voting in whats possibly the last round shows that we have had too little discussion.

Heck, practically both the early game AND the mid game were all Role play fodder.

Instead of picking the game up at mid game, effort only began in the end game.

:shrug:

I tried my best, if I have failed, so be it.

Edit:

All of a sudden, Yaropolk suddenly seems much more odd... previously it was masked by Beskar poking in my face and all, but its suddenly... very clear. Like he's just riding on the bandwagon... hmm...

GAH! I'm really confused. Yaropolk has raised his hands for the MSPA Award. "Most Suspicious Player Alive". Can't we have some more input from the dead :cry:

Too little info, too little discussion, too much uncertainty

[Beskar]

Well, I pointed the town in obvious direction, if they want to lose, fine by me. No point trying to actually win as town when sore people are pitched against me.

Good game Mafia, you win.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You know, if the round isn't over, there is nothing preventing you from changing your minds and doing something productive.

[Death is yonder]

Just past 10 and a half hours before the round is over, 10 of which I will not be around.

I have tried, and it seems I have done it wrong. Doubt has been sowed... GAH!!! :gah:

Town needs to decide, with Iskandar not around, its technically a 2 on 2. In essence, its going to take either, a lot of persuasion, or a coin flip (soo many...recently...)

A pity discussion rolled off a tad too late. :shame:

I have said what I have wanted to, and analyzed what I could see. All that's left is for you to contribute your own inputs, and leave it up to the one thing that these voting is for. What YOU think.

What is left, is simply for you to decide.

[Beskar]

It doesn't matter, you got your revenge vote.

On another note, since I am not Mafia anyway and since you are all scum, I decided to do you all pictures without going into obvious Godwin's Law mode. More will be coming soon.

Taka
https://img37.imageshack.us/img37/158/votetaka.jpg

Lord Winter
https://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5337/votelordwinter.jpg

Yarapolk
https://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9112/voteyarapolk.jpg

Iskander 3.1
https://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5585/voteiskander.jpg

[Yaropolk]

Neat, there is a St Yaropolk?

[Beskar]

Neat, there is a St Yaropolk?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaropolk_Izyaslavich

Also, my photoshops win as they didn't break Godwin's Law.

[Iskander 3.1]

Wow, looks like version 2.9final is in really bad shape. Sorry everyone, and especially Woad, I really can't log on more than once per day and it's hard to keep up with the discussion (I didn't anticipate this happenning when I signed up to play).
Ah well, Vote: Beskar

[woad&fangs]

Day 7
https://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7702/cavemen2.jpg

Five… Five cavemen gather at edge of cave this day. Four… Four cavemen blame Beska (Beskar), including Beska. Three… The number of seconds it took Beska to realize that being Dem-unga-ungad not good idea. 2… Beska run as fast as his two feet can run. 1… Shaman Lawi (Lord Winter) throw single spear at fleeing Beska, killing him dead. 0… Concept not invented until a few thousand years later…

The tribe members returned to their rest spots, hoping they had made the correct choice…
`````
Beskar has been lynched
Lord Winter is Shaman again.

It is now Night. Night will last until 3:00 GMT tomorrow. 24 hours.
`````
alive
Iksander 3.1
taka
Yaropolk
Lord Winter

murdered
Askthepizzaguy
pevergreen
LittleGrizzly
Chaotix
tratorix
Quintus.JC
YLC
A Very Super Market
Ichigo
SplitPersonality
atheotes

Dem-unga-ungad
Sasaki Kojiro
Shinseikhaan
Cultured Drizzt fan
Captain Blackadder
White Eyes :D
Death is Yonder
Beskar

[ULC]

I had a dream and it siad Iskander was guilty :laugh4:

An entire dream, and the only thing that stuck in my head, were the words "Iskander is guilty"

:laugh4:

[Death is yonder]

Beskar was guilty eh? Then I have no regrets, my gut has failed me. The last mafia should be pretty clear now. I think I will do something that ATPG would probably encourage. Shut my dead townie mouth and let the live townies figure it out for themselves. Meh, I have pushed for Beskar lynch already, you all should know who it is by now.

Beskar certainly does not refrain from playing on your conscience and trying to manipulate you. Guess I learned this the hard way.

Hello Beskar, I didn't fail... :laugh4:
I don't need to eat my hood and be a failed townie :clown:

Meh, if the mafia was shaman, we are doomed.

Go Lord Winter! Feel no pressure. Why are so many games up to chance again? :clown:

[Beskar]

No, I wasn't guilty, I was a townie. The town just lost and Mafia won.

You get to eat your hood for revenge voting and ensuring the town lost.

[Death is yonder]

It is now Night. Night will last until 3:00 GMT tomorrow. 24 hours.

Give it up Beskar! :stare:

:clown:

[Beskar]

You do know the Mafia have to kill the non-mafia first right? They don't just auto-win.

[ULC]

You do know the Mafia have to kill the non-mafia first right? They don't just auto-win.

Mafia win when they can out vote the town. If at any point the mafia have equal numbers to the town, they win.

So...obviously, there is only one mafioso left.

I think my dream was right, and it's Iskander :clown:

[woad&fangs]

Mafia win when they can out vote the town. If at any point the mafia have equal numbers to the town, they win.

So...obviously, there is only one mafioso left.


Or I'm building suspense...

[Beskar]

In Iskander's game and even my own games and others I have seen, it is only automatic if it is a similar to 1v1 situation or a situation where the game ends.

For example in splittered cells, there was one uninfected, but if the infector infected me and not the uninfected, the game still continues.

Also as such, the killer might not strike at all, therefore, if he hasn't struck the game doesn't end, it continues.

[ULC]

Or I'm building suspense...

That would only work out if Beskar is not mafia :clown:

[Beskar]

I am not.

[ULC]

I am not a townie.

Your right Beskar, no point in fighting against the truth.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Beskar seemed innocent to me.

[White_eyes:D]

I REALLY think it was Yaroplok and Lord Winter....but no.....it has to be Beskar......add a new mafia rule.."Beskar is always suspicious....so use him as a scapegoat as Mafia":bow:

[Beskar]

Beskar seemed innocent to me.

Hell, if it was Sasaki saying it, it must be true. :bounce:

As much as you want this to be your big break where I am Mafia, YLC, you are completely wrong.

[Tratorix]

Hell, if it was Sasaki saying it, it must be true. :bounce:

As much as you want this to be your big break where I am Mafia, YLC, you are completely wrong.

Yeah, because everyone trusts Sasaki. :rolleyes:

[White_eyes:D]

I trust his....Logic.....(something everybody who is alive is not using...but the Mafia of course..):shrug: but he *could* be mafia....but I think he generally is right that Beskar is innocent:yes:

Anyway...I don't count this as a victory for the Mafia....because town was *too busy killing the next on the wagon*:wall:

[Lord Winter]

This game reminds me of chigago sorriee without ATPG.

[White_eyes:D]

People were too busy "lynching the next on the wagon":furious3: we lost because people didn't look very closely and used excuses like....."He is not speaking Cave-man talk, he is guilty":inquisitive:
That kind of reasoning made it simple for sort-of lurkers, like Lord Winter and Yaropolk....:juggle2:

[Beskar]

People were too busy "lynching the next on the wagon":furious3: we lost because people didn't look very closely and used excuses like....."He is not speaking Cave-man talk, he is guilty":inquisitive:
That kind of reasoning made it simple for sort-of lurkers, like Lord Winter and Yaropolk....:juggle2:

Also, the ghosts of people wanting a revenge make it easy for two Mafia to bandwagon that person and the others will just follow.

[taka]

hm... well game hasnt finished so i am still assuming that Beskar was one of the 2 people we needed to lynch if we survive this night, however much he denies it. now the next step it to see who everyone else thinks the next one is the other mafia

[woad&fangs]

Night 8
https://img32.imageshack.us/img32/553/wolfsea.jpg
Ikka (Iksander 3.1) very worry about killas. Ikka hope that Beska was last of killas. But if not, Ikka have surprise for them! Fluffy hungry today. Fluffy eat big talkas if big talkas show faces!

“Grrr,” went Fluffy.
“Good Fluffy,” replied, Ikka. Feeling safer, Ikka drifted off to sleep…
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Tak (taka) not worried about killas at all. His wolf keep him safe.

“Good Growly” said Tak.
“Growwwllll,” replied Growly.

Tak drifted off to sleep…
`````

Yaro (Yaropolk) no have wolf but Yaro feel safe anyways. Yaro litter ground with dry leaves. He hear killa coming if Killa come for him!

Yaro drifted off to sleep…
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Lawi (Lord Winter) couldn’t sleep. Lawi in charge of tribe. Lawi walk around almost empty cave, weapons in hand. While walking he happened upon the bodies of Yonda (Death is Yonder) and Beska (Beskar). Lawi think he have important news for tribe!
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To be continued...
Part II will be up within the hour!

[woad&fangs]

Finale
https://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8329/evolution080103ms.jpg
The next morning…

Shaman Lawi (Lord Winter) wake tribe up early that morning. Lawi have big news for tribe!

“Yaro, Tak, Ikka! Lawi have big news!”

“It betta be big. Me want sleep sleep.” Grumbled Tak (taka).

“It is!” said Lawi, “no dead last night!”

“Hmmph,” say Ikka (Iksander 3.1), “We see that. Can we sleep sleep now?”

“But that not all!” say Lawi, “I looka at Beska and Yondo bodies. They had weapons when die! Yondo have spear and Beska have bow!”

This news did surprise the Neanderthals. Yaro, Ikka, and Tak went off to view the bodies. Meanwhile, Lawi stay behind with wolves.

“Well, well,” said Lawi, “Once I off you mangy mutts, it will be easy to kill the last two,” The wolves looked on dumbly as Lawi pulled out a stone axe and two slabs of mammoth steak. While the wolves were distracted by the mammoth flesh, Lawi used the stone axe to sever their spinal cords. Just as he finished with this, the others returned from viewing the bodies Lawi had planted weapons on.

“Lawi, Lawi!” shouted Tak, “You right! Beska and Yondo have weapons. We safe!”

“I’m afraid you are mistaken,” said Lawi, “First, my name is not Lawi. That is an idiotic Neanderthal name. My name is Wallace, the homo sapien. Second, I am afraid that you are not safe. In fact, you are about to die.”

“Ha,” laughed Ikka, “We outnumba you! We killa you, mista big talka!”

Yaro (Yaropolk) speak, “Sorry, but you are also wrong about that. You see, I have learned from Wallace that I am not a Neanderthal. I may have been raised by this tribe but apparently I am a homo sapien, and as such I will side with my fellow species.”

“That silly, Yaro!” say Ikka.

“My name, is Moses,” replied the caveman formerly known as Yaro.

Moses then brought out a small stone knife and stabbed Ikka in the heart. Tak tried to flee but Wallace threw the stone axe and hit the fleeing Tak square in the back.

The time of the Neanderthal had ended. The rise of Man had begun.
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Homo Sapien Victory!
Congratulations Lord Winter, Sasaki Kojiro, and Yaropolk!

Roles:
Shinseikhaan
Cultured Drizzt Fan
A Very Super Market-Ugg
atheotes
AskthePizzaGuy
Captain Blackadder
Iksander 3.1- wolf tamer
Death is Yonder
taka- wolf tamer
White Eyes :D
Tratorix- detective
Sasaki Kojiro- Homo Sapien killer
Chaotix
Beskar
pevergreen- wolf tamer
Quintus J.C.
Ichigo
Yaropolk- role blocker “recruited” by homo sapiens
YLC
LittleGrizzly- detective
SplitPersonality
Lord Winter- Homo Sapien killer

Green= pro-town
Orange= team Ugg
Red= Homo Sapiens
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A proper writeup, including role PMs and night actions will be posted tomorrow evening.
:bow:

[Yaropolk]

what was wolf tamers ability?

[Lord Winter]

Our quicktopic:

http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/exjy4Z9mVj3J6

Good game all, it was a pleasure working with you Yaropolk.

Also was the ugg faction a second mafia family?

[Beskar]

I was right with Lord Winter.

Nevermind, congrats Lord Winter and Yarapolk. You did well, though Death Is Yonder and YLC made it easy for you to lynch me, especially with taka sore.

[woad&fangs]

The wolf tamers had a 50% chance of surviving a kill attempt.

Team Ugg was supposed to be a neutral faction but in hindsight I think I made it to easy for them to align with the town.

I'll answer more questions tomorrow along with the writeup. I'm really tired right now :zzz:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Zog demand recount! Zog say that Sapien man intimidate neanderthal voter. Zog say that ballot box was stuffed. Zog say that we hang Chad, did not mean to vote for Buchanan.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sweet Victory!

I couldn't pay close attention to this game unfortunately. But it seems to have worked out just fine.

Also,


I would suggest offing tratorix and littlegrizzly.

~:pimp:

[White_eyes:D]

OH YEAH....My guess was spot-on about Lord Winter and Yaroplok....:smash: Town needs to really lynch the Semi-lurkers.....:whip:

[A Very Super Market]

I'm an idiot. Yaropolk revealed to me that he was a role-blocker early on, and I didn't tell anyone. :wall:

Good game everybody.

[Lord Winter]

OH YEAH....My guess was spot-on about Lord Winter and Yaroplok....:smash: Town needs to really lynch the Semi-lurkers.....:whip:

In all fairness almost everyone was a semi lurker.

[Csargo]

GG Sasaki, Lord Winter, and Yaro!

[Splitpersonality]

I semi-lurked and it only got me mafia'd D:

good game, wish I could've been more into it, the caveman speak got a wee bit annoying though :P

[taka]

GG, well done team mafia :bow:

it was a pretty good game and the theme was pretty funny at the start :laugh4:

but i can't believe they killed the wolves! :(

[Death is yonder]

I will eat my hood, and humble pie.

Meh, Beskar was so odd though.

*sigh*, town was practically dead with the lack of one vote.

I'll hold my end of the bargain with Beskar.

Good Game mafia :bow:

You capitalized on the lack of discussion and got off easy bandwagons.
I still hold that I thought that Yaro was very, very, suspicious.

[Yaropolk]

I'm an idiot. Yaropolk revealed to me that he was a role-blocker early on, and I didn't tell anyone. :wall:


Good game everybody.


I revealed to you on N1, found my partners on N2, and spent the rest of the game plotting your death. :smile:

[seireikhaan]

Well done, men.

[Iskander 3.1]

Vote: Sasaki
Good game all, you humans are so smart...

[atheotes]

i was one of those townies who did caveman speak but i was depending on the pro-town roles to aid us :bow:

[woad&fangs]

The role PMs

The homo sapiens
Role: Ludwig/Wallace

Team: Homo Sapiens

You and your fellow homo sapien, Ludwig/Wallace, were walking along one day when you happened upon the most charming little valley. Unfortunately for you two, it was already occupied by the Townee Neanderthal clan. Unfortunately for them, homo sapiens are the most intelligent creatures to ever walk the earth. There is no way you’re going to let such an amazing locale be inhabited by a bunch of stupid, hairy, big-browed Neanderthals.

Ability: You and your partner can kill 2 people per night.

Objective: Kill all Neanderthals

PS: feel free to give me suggestions about kill methods


Ugg
Role: Ugg

Team: Ugg

Congratulations! You are the title character! You have a bit of an aggressive streak but deep down all you want is to be treated fairly. Unfortunately, with clan cohesion being of the upmost importance in the Paleolithic world, your violent tendencies have caused you to be a bit of an outcast. Your fellow clan members always use you as a scapegoat. Do you know how that makes you feel? ANGRY!!! VERY ANGRY!!! UGG SMASH!!! Luckily, you do have one friend in the tribe, Grog. With Shaman Woad dead, it’s up to you and Grog to clear your name… or kill everyone who blames you… UGG SMASH!!!!

Ability: You may kill one person each night if you wish. You also have a one time protection from night attacks.

Objective: You must survive to the end of the game. Also, you must kill everyone who votes for you at any point in the game or, alternatively, you can last 3 phases (1 night + 2 days or 2 nights + 1 day) without any lynches or murders.


Grog (The team Ugg detective)
Role: Grog

Team: Ugg

You are Ugg’s best and only friend in the Townee tribe. You two were drawn together by your mutual love of clubbing, stabbing, slashing, pummeling, and all other forms of violent outbursts. However, unlike Ugg, You have channeled your violent tendencies into a constructive purpose. You are one of the greatest hunters in all of Neanderthaldom. Although you will never hurt another Neanderthal, you are willing to use your hunting skills to clear Ugg’s name.

Ability: You can send the name of one person to me every night. In the morning I will tell you the role of that person.

Objective: Kill everyone who votes for Ugg, or last 3 phases (1 night + 2 days or 2 nights + 1 day) without any lynches or murders. You’ll receive a minor victory if Ugg dies but the killers are eliminated.



Moa (the role blocker)
Role: Moa

Team: Independent

You’ve lived your entire life among the Townee Clan but you have always felt… different. You are smaller in stature yet more proficient in tool making than any of your fellow tribe mates. Recently, two newcomers have arrived in the tribe. This is in itself is not unusual. The Townee Clan are successful hunters and foragers and it is common for outsiders to join from time to time. Still, these two seem different from the other Neanderthals, just like you.

Ability: You may block the night actions of one person each night. If you role block one of the two newcomers, their identities will be revealed to you.

Objective: Your objective has two steps. The first step is to locate one of the two newcomers. The second part of your objective is to help them achieve their objective.


Moses (The roleblocker after he finds the mafia)
After the dem-unga-unga, you see Lawi (Lord Winter) slip through a narrow crevice to a small side cave. You follow him there. He seems surprised to see you and appears rather agitated. It looks like he is in a hurry to do something. He is about to leave but then he stops and takes a long look at you. You in turn, take a long look back at him. You both realize that you are different from the rest; less hair, smaller, and the arrow heads he carries look much like your own.

He breaks his gaze and turns to go back through the crevice, armed with a bow and arrow.

“Wait!” you whisper to him, “Tora follow me. He stuck in crevice. No can go that way. Me know other way out.” You point out another exit to him.

He whispers back, “We talk when sun rises. What your name?”

“Moa” you respond.

“Silly Neanderthal name,” he utters back, “You named Moses now.”

For first time, you have found someone like you.
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Lord Winter is one of the outsiders. He is a homo sapien and so are you. You were orphaned as an infant and raised by one of the Neanderthal tribe. However, you feel much closer to this new comer than to any of your tribe mates.
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New Role name: Moses
New Team: homo sapiens
Ability: Same as before, but if Lord Winter dies you gain the ability to kill 1 per night.
New Objective: Kill all Neanderthals
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PS: I was coming up with character names while you guys were discussing Moses. I was pleasantly surprised when random.org gave you the role of Moa/Moses

Ra-Ra (town detective)
Role: Ra-Ra

Team: Neanderthal Tribe (town)

You are the favorite nephew of the late Shaman Woad. You also happen to be one of the best trackers in all of Neanderthaldom. This skill will come in handy as you attempt to uncover perpetrator(s) of his murder.

Ability: Ability: You can send the name of one person to me every night. In the morning I will tell you the role of that person.

Objective: Eliminate all threats to the Townee Clan.


The Wolf Tamers
Role: Borf/Lorf/Rorf

Team: Neanderthal Tribe (town)

You are one of three Neanderthals in the tribe that have managed to tame a wolf. It hunts for you, comforts you, and protects you. In return, you feed it and give it shelter. This special bond between wolf and cave man may prove valuable in the days and nights ahead.

Ability: Possessing a tamed wolf gives you a 50% chance of surviving a night attack as long as you possess it. At any time you may give your tamed wolf to another player. That player then gains this ability and has complete control over whether to keep the tame wolf or give it to another player. Make sure you utilize your companion wisely.

Objective: Eliminate all threats to the Townee Clan.


Prologue- This game was my attempt at bringing the “Shaman” mechanic into the large game format. I’ve hosted 3 small games that used similar mechanics. The first two used a revolving detective rather than a revolving doctor. I was very pleased with the switch to a doctor power and I believe that the mechanic offers plenty of interesting stratagems as long as it is balanced properly. This will be touched on in the epilogue section.

The basic roles to this game were planned out several months ago and I made almost no changes to their powers and objectives from my original design. However, cancellations by the people ahead of me in the que meant that I had to work very fast to come up with the names and descriptions in role PMs and to generally flesh out the game. Unfortunately, it also led to me being inconsistent at times about how much of a hint about a person’s role I left in the writeups.

Team Homo Sapiens- The starting two were designed to be vanilla mafia. Two kills per night, regardless of how many are alive with the objective to destroy the town. In order to balance out the game, I gave them the possibility of “recruiting” a role blocker. I’m rather glad that Yaropolk got the role blocker, considering the name I picked out for him during the sign-up phase.

Team Ugg- I meant for them to be a truly neutral party. In hindsight, giving them the ability to achieve a “golden rule” style victory made them too pro-town. I figured that they would work to eliminate the mafia but that Ugg would rack up so many people voting for him that he would have to go on a killing spree against the town. However, few people voted for AVSM.

Team Townee- The town got two weapons all to its own this game. First, they got a vanilla detective. Secondly, they got the “wolf tamers”. It seemed rather redundant to me to give the town doctors so I decided to try something a bit different. The “wolf tamers” were meant to be speed bumps to slow down Ugg and the homo sapiens, rather then being super powerful in their own right. Unfortunately, they weren’t of much use to the town as pevergreen lost the coin flip and the other two were never attacked.

Anyways, on to the in-game events!

Night 1

The homo sapiens kill ATPG and pevergreen. Pevergreen loses the coin flip so he dies despite the protection of his wolf. Yaropolk blocks Iksander. Both detectives investigate Sasaki.

Night 2

The first night where the Shaman comes into play. The shamans were all picked by random.org. This time it chose AVSM. He chose to protect his ally, tratorix. This turns out to be a good move as Lord Winter selects tratorix and LittleGrizzly as his victims. Unfortunately for the town, Grizz had no one to protect him so the town loses its second power role in two nights. Grizz investigated tratorix but got no results on account of being dead. Yaropolk chooses to block Lord Winter but since Lord Winter is one of the homo sapiens, Yaropolk joins his side instead of blocking him. Tratorix investigated Yaropolk but since Yaropolk didn’t become a part of the mafia until the morning, tratorix got the result that Yaropolk was an independent role blocker. I’m still surprised that tratorix didn’t call for his lynching when the Shaman got role blocked a few nights later. This night was by far the most complicated.

Night 3

AVSM kills chaotix, the only person to vote for AVSM so far. Tratorix investigates Lord Winter but is killed so he gets no results. Still, its impressive that tratorix investigated 3 mafia in the first 3 nights. Cultured Drizzt fan was shaman. He was going to protect tratorix but got blocked by Yaropolk who was now working for the homo sapiens. AVSM was also attacked by the mafia, but survived because of his one time protection power.

Night 4

Yaropolk blocks Death is Yonder but DiY is a townie so nothing happens. Atheotes is Shaman and he protects AVSM but Lord Winter chooses YLC and Quintus.JC as his victims for tonight.

Night 5

Shaman Ichigo protects AVSM and Yaropolk blocks White Eyes :D. Lord Winter didn’t send in any kill orders so you guys got the smilodon poem instead. I probably should have clarified that when I said there would be more kills, I simply meant that there were still killers out there. However, I didn’t correct people when they thought the kills per night would escalate because I thought Ugg would start killing more.

Night 6

Yaropolk blocks AVSM. Lord Winter kills AVSM and Ichigo. AVSM was shaman but he didn’t send in any protection orders.

Night 7

In a bit of bad luck for the town, Lord Winter is made the Shaman. One of the aspects of the Shaman role that I think has yet to be explored is the ability of the mafia to attack and protect a person at the same time to try to “prove” their innocence. However, the mafia was in a dominant position at this point so Lord Winter protects taka instead of trying anything fancy. Lord Winter kills Splitpersonality and atheotes. Yaropolk blocks splitpersonality.

Night 8

Lord Winter and Yaropolk had already won at this point. This night phase was to give them a chance to give me their input on how they wanted the game to end.

Epilogue:

This was certainly an interesting experience. Keeping track of interactions between characters during Night 2 was much harder then I expected. I have immense respect for the people like Seamus and TinCow who give everyone a chance to perform a night action. It is truly amazing that they have remained sane.

I think the Shaman mechanic translates nicely to the large game format and I have come up with some ideas to make it better for whenever I decide to take another stab at hosting a large game. The role blocker turned out to be a very good balance to the shaman.

Many players blamed the low activity on a lack of knowledge about who the enemy was. The reason for this was that I wanted there to be some ambiguity over the alignment of Ugg but in the future I will place more importance on having some roles known from the start.

Thank you all for playing. Comments, suggestions, criticism, and questions are all welcomed. :bow:

[Tratorix]

I investigated three mafia in the first three nights, I'm calling that a personal victory. :beam:

GG to the mafia and thanks to W&F for hosting.

[White_eyes:D]

I would like to call this game "unbalanced".....but that would be a lie....:shame:

GG everyone:bow: (town needs to overhaul...:juggle2:)

[Yaropolk]

Tratorix - you are never allowed to be detective again! Good game. Did you investigate me because I roleclaimed to AVSM or just on a hunch? I roleclaimed to AVSM once he was confirmed innocent but before I found my partners because I wanted to get someone in the town on my side.

And a big thank you to W&F for hosting!

[Tratorix]

Tratorix - you are never allowed to be detective again! Good game. Did you investigate me because I roleclaimed to AVSM or just on a hunch? I roleclaimed to AVSM once he was confirmed innocent but before I found my partners because I wanted to get someone in the town on my side.

And a big thank you to W&F for hosting!

AVSM never told me you roleclaimed to him (bad AVSM :whip:), I pretty much just investigated you on a hunch. I really should have thought more about the fact that you were shown as an independent though. :wall:

[atheotes]

thanks for the game W&F. the premise and the roles were excellent. Only thing that was bad were the townies... :embarassed:

and good game to the mafia. :2thumbsup:

[A Very Super Market]

I was brain-dead for a while, I must apologize for being so.... bad.