The Consequences [Concluded]

[miotas]

As for the five man in the bunker question, I would've choose Priest instead of Marines in Beskars list. After few years living in the bunker, there could be heaps of trouble. Priest looks like the one who can resolve the problem. Marine who was dishonorably discharge could know couple of handy skills, but I don't think its worth it to keep him, considering the risk of him getting abusive and all in the future. But denying him, may cause him shooting us off.

Actually beskar's list didn't include the marine, and I don't think a priest would be very useful in a survival/repopulating scenario.

[Beskar]

Yeah, I never included the Marine. But I did rank the Marine higher than the priest, because at least the marine would be a sperm donor.

[miotas]

I really hope not.... because some of the answers were not answered properly, thus, we would not even get the $50 because of them.

Oh, I also forgot to mention that your first answer is wrong as well because you didn't pick one of the 3 options. :shrug:

[Beskar]

Oh, I also forgot to mention that your first answer is wrong as well because you didn't pick one of the 3 options. :shrug:

But the question was wrong, in that case. :beam:

Because you don't need to kill anyone to survive as you would be dead before then. Even then, argubly, the child might die soon of natural causes anyway, so you still don't need to sacrifice some one.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Update: All questions have been sufficiently answered save for #5. I am using Beskar's answer for #3 (since he included the "why", which was required), Stildawn's answer for #6, and pever's answers for #s 1, 2, 4, and 7. You may revise your answers, but once you answer all questions the paper will immediately be handed in.

-edit- If you are making a revision, you must specifically state that you are doing so in your italicized orders.

[ULC]

Please could you use Beskars answers for everything? If we can -

Scratch of previous answers, and print the revised ones instead. Add for #5 - I found the ending of the Sopranos disappointing because the end implied a return to where it all started, that throughout the whole series, character development, plot development, etc, meant nill, which would be worse then an ending with Tony's death or salvation simply because our emotional investment in the characters has been for naught.

However, once the questions are finished, do not hand the paper over just yet - look over our answers, make sure they are what we want first.

If anyone wants to overwrite my answer to #5, be my guest :bow:

[Stildawn]

Its all good to me, who cares lets get this over with lol.

[Subotan]

Parts of these questions look similar to my University interview.


Its all good to me, who cares lets get this over with lol.
You say lol a lot.

[Stildawn]

Haha im sorta know for my use of 'lol' lol... Just ask AA, or Cap C lol.

[Double A]

Stildawn is the Legislator of Lol.

[Myrddraal]

"Legislator of Lol"
That has to be your new user title.

[Stildawn]

how do i change that lol

[miotas]

Please could you use Beskars answers for everything? If we can -

Scratch of previous answers, and print the revised ones instead. Add for #5 - I found the ending of the Sopranos disappointing because the end implied a return to where it all started, that throughout the whole series, character development, plot development, etc, meant nill, which would be worse then an ending with Tony's death or salvation simply because our emotional investment in the characters has been for naught.

However, once the questions are finished, do not hand the paper over just yet - look over our answers, make sure they are what we want first.

If anyone wants to overwrite my answer to #5, be my guest :bow:

The question also asks for how would you have changed it. So what about adding my previous suggestion?

Enemy "X" is standing at the door when he opens it and shoots Tony multiple times.

[pevergreen]

Please could you use Beskars answers for everything? If we can -

[I]Scratch of previous answers, and print the revised ones instead.

I find this offensive.

The idea was to cut down on RL time answering this survey. It doesnt really matter what we write. By the time they check it we will be long gone methinks.

Stildawn: User Cp -> Edit Your Details

Then theres a text box near the top.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Filling in the rest of your paper, the answers look like this:

1. ourself
You can survive a long time without food, however, the most immediate concern is infact water, considering how you are ironically surrounded by it. Also, if you are adrift, your most immediate concern would be getting out of the water and getting dry, as you would die from hypothermia long before the need of food. Depending of where abouts you are, attempting to kill another bad idea in itself, since you would have to expend energy in doing the feat which would mean you wear out in a shorter amount of time and this would kill you, also, any blood in the water would attract local wildlife, including sharks and other predators.

So the best course of action would be not to sacrifice anyone.

2. - A 33-year-old single mother, who refuses to go without...
- Her 7-year-old daughter, who will go without Mommy but will probably never be the same
- A Catholic priest
- A 27-year-old male computer programmer who originally dropped out of med school
- A 51-year-old handyman/mechanic, who may or may not be able to still have children

First, you would have to meet the criteria of what is needed. Your biggest concerns would be:
1) Healthcare
2) Repopulation/Reproduction.
3) Rebuilding.

First is the elderly couple. They would not provide anything productive and would only be a hinderance. Will not contribute anything.
Ex-Marine who was dishonorably discharged - is young enough to be fertile.
Infirtile chef - well, this will contribute nothing.
27-male computer programmer who was in med school. He is young enough to be fertile and live a while, he has medical skills available.
51 handyman/mechanic, while not possibly being firtile, he does have skills which are needed and can be taught on.
19-year old pregnant crack addict - There would be any crack, which would pose a cold turkey situation, but they could be cleared up and they can reproduce and obviously not inflirtile.
33-year old mother - which can still have children most likely.
7-year old daughter, the future is in the children.
Catholic priest: a vow of celebracy, male, no other information. Will contribute nothing.

From this list, the old couple are obviously a bad choice. The catholic priest is a bad choice. So those are simple to write-off.

The 19-yr old, the single mother and the daughter are all obvious choices to take.
The 27 ex-med student is obvious to take.

Then it leaves a choice between skills or sperm. Well, being male, there is enough sperm, so it is the matter of skills, which appears to be the Handyman/Mechanic. The Marine would have to do the honourable thing.

So the five choices -

- A 27-year-old male computer programmer who originally dropped out of med school
- A 51-year-old handyman/mechanic, who may or may not be able to still have children
- A 19-year-old pregnant crack addict
- A 33-year-old single mother, who refuses to go without...
- Her 7-year-old daughter, who will go without Mommy but will probably never be the same

3. It would be the assassination of Leon Trotsky. Because of his efforts to expose the corruption and the regime in Russia under Stalin, which could shape the future of socialism and communism, which could have ended up stopping the Cold War.

Also, this would have the most miminal impact. While there are some major assassinations in the past, some of the obvious ones would be a bad idea to stop.

Most famous assassination of all would be Julius Caesar at the hands of Brutus. Changing this result would vastly change history in such a way, it would probably be recognisible today without much thought to whether it would be for the better or worse, and if you stopped it, Julius Caesar might have disbanded the Senate of Rome, which could destroy the principles of a republic which would shape the foundation of important events such as the America Constitution.

J. F. Kennedy was round up in a bunch of scandels, and would have most likely ended up impeached or imprisioned, which would have put America in conflict, and with the Cuba Missile crisis which would be occuring during this... I think annihilation of the world through nuclear arms is a bad consequence.

There again, are many other people. Martin Luther King Jr. is now forever memorised as being the great person he was, he inspired others to take up the mantle spread equality and opportunity to a discriminated class.

Sometimes, when looking in History, great men can die. However, the conquences of that can be greater, because of the impact they have had on the world.

4. Tis better to have loved and lost (live for 5 years)
Living life to its fullest, or being in the paradise of being fully content is a gift people rarely can recieve and it is the most prized gift of all. Would be the first option.

5. I found the ending of the Sopranos disappointing because the end implied a return to where it all started, that throughout the whole series, character development, plot development, etc, meant nill, which would be worse then an ending with Tony's death or salvation simply because our emotional investment in the characters has been for naught.

6. Success: an event that accomplishes its intended purpose
While searching "define: success" in google might produce the result of "an event that accomplishes its intended purpose." In-line with the emotive questioning, this is obviously the answer not being looking for, but infact "Define success in life."

This leads to theorical issues such as what purpose of life, to become successful. This is usually based on the simple biological "reproduce", to religious "Follow the will of Allah", to consumer capitalism "Make a billion dollars then blow it all on planes, boats, fast car and women".

Life is what you put into it. Therefore, your success can only be measurable by your own standards of what it is to achieve it.

7. If he was trying to smuggle it, don't cover, if it was planted, cover.

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A bit messy, but certainly readable. Although you wonder if your revised answer to #1 is in the spirit of the question, much like your original answer to #6 was.

[miotas]

They're probably going to cart us off to a padded white cell for all the debating we were having amongst our separate personalities.

[Myrddraal]

Perhaps we can add to question one:

If someone absolutely must be sacrificed, I would offer myself

This is very noble of ourselves. We should be very proud of our virtual self sacrifice.

[Subotan]

This is probably the only example I have ever seen of a group discussion coming out in favour of a utilitarian argument.

[Beskar]

Perhaps we can add to question one:

If someone absolutely must be sacrificed, I would offer myself

This is very noble of ourselves. We should be very proud of our virtual self sacrifice.

I agree to that. Just for the sake of fully answering it. Though, killing the kid was the next best idea, to save him the agony of a prolonged death.

[Double A]

Also we didn't answer the Sopranos question all the way. We need to put how we'd end it.

[Beefy187]

Perhaps we can add to question one:

If someone absolutely must be sacrificed, I would offer myself

This is very noble of ourselves. We should be very proud of our virtual self sacrifice.

Actually we could do the same for question 2 as well.
It doesn't say if we have any specialty besides owning the shelter.

If its the sake of humanities survival, sacrifice your self and let a chef or a marine in instead :laugh4:

Unless if we were a girl.

But in reality no one would be that selfless. If we write those answers down, result could show that we are self praising hypocrite.

[Beskar]

Actually we could do the same for question 2 as well.
It doesn't say if we have any specialty besides owning the shelter.

If its the sake of humanities survival, sacrifice your self and let a chef or a marine in instead :laugh4:

Unless if we were a girl.

But in reality no one would be that selfless. If we write those answers down, result could show that we are self praising hypocrite.

But we would be better than the chef or the marine... I mean, inflirtile chef is a nothing, and the marine is pretty much a nothing as well.

[Beefy187]

Marine would know survival tactics wouldn't they?
Like how to preserve food, what can be eaten and what not... Also if we get raided by other survivors, he can fend them off.

[Subotan]

Who cares, we still get fifty dollars either way.

[pevergreen]

Who cares, we still get fifty dollars either way.

Smartest thing on this page.

[Beskar]

Marine would know survival tactics wouldn't they?
Like how to preserve food, what can be eaten and what not... Also if we get raided by other survivors, he can fend them off.

dishonourably discharged, also, if you haven't worked out, I think I would know how to preserve food, what can be eaten/etc compare to a rank+file drop-out. Also, I doubt the fact there would be other survivors and fend them off how? He isn't chuck norris.

[Subotan]

Just say You'd lock the bunker and let no-one in

[Double A]

I'd let all the women in.

Except the old lady.

[Stildawn]

You adjust the first answer (as per above) and then hand the form back in....


Lets just get this moving.

[pevergreen]

Which above? Surely not Double A's...

[Splitpersonality]

Oh god, can't we just simply pick something and :daisy:ing move on!

It's not about our personal opinions most likely, we're here for the money :daisy:it!

[Stildawn]

If someone absolutely must be sacrificed, I would offer myself

That one.... :)

[GeneralHankerchief]

Sorry, it's been a long day here. I'll try to advance things within the next couple of hours.

[Double A]

Use beskar's answers, with the self sacrifice bit others have added.

Let's get the freaking ball rolling.

[pevergreen]

Sorry, it's been a long day here. I'll try to advance things within the next couple of hours.


Let's get the freaking ball rolling.

:stare:

[Stildawn]

Let's get the freaking ball rolling.

Lol AA ive already done that, we are waiting on GH now lol

[Double A]

Sorry I'm tired right now, in fact why am I even on?

[Beefy187]

Sorry I'm tired right now, in fact why am I even on?

Because you want to be hugged by Beefy before you go to sleep?

Aww... There there ~:grouphug:

[pevergreen]

Thats disturbing beefy.

Very disturbing.

[Beefy187]

Buts its nothing unusual coming from me either :curtain:

[pevergreen]

We both know that I'm the creepy one here.

[Subotan]

I thought that was me

[GeneralHankerchief]

You make the final changes to the paper and turn it in, mercifully. After the others do so, Angela comes back.

"Okay, everyone," she says, "it is now time to move onto the practical portion of the study. This will not take as long as the written portion. I'd like everyone to pick a number from 1-4." The college student with the headphones is sitting on the end and takes #2. You are next.

[CCRunner]

Pick 3

[Beskar]

Because you want to be hugged by Beefy before you go to sleep?

Aww... There there ~:grouphug:

I wanted to be hugged by beefy... :cry:

[Double A]

Buts its nothing unusual coming from me either :curtain:

Hi Beefy!

[Subotan]

I hope they're BOSE

[Beefy187]

Pick 3

I think 75 percent of people would pick 2 or 3 :beam:


I wanted to be hugged by beefy... :cry:

Get in the line :clown:

[Double A]

I'd pick three.

If it was good enough for Arnold Schwarzenegger, it's good enough for us.

[GeneralHankerchief]

You pick #3. The next person, the elderly gentleman, takes #4, leaving the overly made-up girl with #1.

"Ma'am, you'll go first," Angela says, escorting her into the next room. The three of you remaining wait quietly for ten to fifteen minutes. You do not hear anything that goes on in the next room. Eventually, Angela comes out asking for #2. The overly made-up girl is nowhere to be seen.

Now it is just you and the gentleman remaining. You estimate that you could probably get a decent conversation in with him before you are called.

[Splitpersonality]

I say we talk to him, about anything.

I'm scared to think of what happened to the made up girl, but this is APA certified apparently...

[A Very Super Market]

Maybe there is a back door? Of course, with the whole "Scary conglomerate" thing going on here, I think it wouldn't be strange that there is some conspiracy here.

[Beskar]

They probably just went through another door. You wimps.

[CCRunner]

So, I'm thinking we have a nice conversation with the old guy?

[Stildawn]

Strike up a conversation again with the old man.... Touch on topics such as current world news, local news... And if he knows any other places to find work or money...

[Subotan]

Strike up a conversation again with the old man.... Touch on topics such as current world news, local news... And if he knows any other places to find work or money...

Lame.
Ask the old man how the recession has affected him and his family/friends, and subtly drift towards asking about whether he knows a place we can rent cheap, and if he knows of any places which might offer unskilled work

[Stildawn]

That basically the same as what I asked haha, but my would get more information, as we would hopefully get more clues as to whats happening around this world and locally etc.

[GeneralHankerchief]

You start to think of things to discuss with the old man, but realize that your knowledge of news is quite limited. Remembering the full-page ad in the paper, you decide to go the sports route.

"So..." you stumble, "Think the Cardinals have a chance this weekend?"

The gentleman regards you for a moment. "It all depends on Warner," he says. "If he can pull two great weeks in a row, sure. Otherwise, we're sunk. I expect we'll know either way within the first five minutes of the game, though. Warner never really improves or regresses much once the game actually starts."

"Yeah," you manage at last. Not wanting to embarass yourself further, you decide to segue into a subject closer to your heart. "Well," you say, "wish I could watch it myself. My TV went out last week, and I'm out of a job at the moment. I probably won't be able to make enough in time to get a new TV for the playoffs, but do you know anywhere that's hiring?"

"Anywhere that will take me?" The gentleman laughs. "That's why I'm here, son! You're still young, though, so there's still a chance to pick a company and ride it 'till you retire. But why are you asking me? I'm assuming you've checked the internet sites for listings, or heaven forbid a newspaper already."

[Stildawn]

Lol ok theres our next stop..... an internet cafe

[Subotan]

Sounds good

[Captain Blackadder]

I think we\should also look at some kind of missing person database to see if our picture is up.

[miotas]

Are we putting in orders now, or waiting for the next write up?

[Myrddraal]

If we were on a missing persons database the police would surely have found us.

[Subotan]

Wait until next write up, as we will be experimented on soon in just a tic.

[miotas]

If we were on a missing persons database the police would surely have found us.

Not all persons who go missing are in the police database. There are unofficial missing persons databases that exist.

[Captain Blackadder]

I thought what we didi with the police was they checked our prints and couldnt find them anywhere but going through all missing person lists would take too long for the police to bother.

[Beskar]

I think we should read totalwar.org as our character and read this thread.

[miotas]

The universe would implode, and then we wouldn't get to see the end of the story.

[Beskar]

Ask the man next to you where you think the other participants went off too as they never came back/seen them since.

[Double A]

Lol ok theres our next stop..... an internet cafe

We don't have Internet cafe's over here.

Our best bet is to find a library, get a card, and check the Internet there. Best of all, it's free.

[miotas]

You need I.D. to get a card. They will let us use it for a dollar or two without a card though.

[Myrddraal]

To be honest there's nothing creepy about the fact that the other participants didn't come back. You don't want people who've just taken the test affecting the reactions of those who haven't yet.

There was something creepy about the way GH said it though...

[GeneralHankerchief]

Hey guys, I just got back from... well... let's just say that it was Saturday night. I'll advance things once I wake up tomorrow.

[Mithrandir]

I think we should read totalwar.org as our character and read this thread.

:laugh4: Brilliant :D

How creepy would that be if this situation really happened to you...:2thumbsup:

[GeneralHankerchief]

"I'm trying not to think about it," he says. "This entire experiment is giving me the creeps. I'm only doing this because I love my grandson."

Well, that's certainly a help.

Would you like to engage the gentleman in conversation once more, or be silent until you are called in?

[CCRunner]

The guy obviously doesn't want to talk. I say we just shut up and wait for our turn.

[Beskar]

What does his grandson got to do with this? It seems awfully random.

I doubt $50 would be such a life-changer.

[Stildawn]

Smile and then wait till you are called.....

[Splitpersonality]

He's going to buy him a video game with it, in america around $50 should be enough for a new game...

I say we compliment the man, tell him what a good grandfather he is before we go in.

[Double A]

Only if it's a Wii or PC game. 360 and PS3 games cost $60.

I agree with split about complimenting him. I'd love to get videogames from my grandparents :beam:

[Splitpersonality]

Only if it's a Wii or PC game. 360 and PS3 games cost $60.

I agree with split about complimenting him. I'd love to get videogames from my grandparents :beam:

I'm assuming that this man is not literally out of cash and he already has maybe $10 for a game, probably bad on my part to assume but...:rolleyes:

I more meant the, he's scared of this but doing it for his grandson anyway. I hope we aren't being secretly killed, this old dude is pretty cool in my book :D

[Double A]

Maybe the US's economy has deflated where $50 is like $500 today.

[GeneralHankerchief]

You smile and wait until you're called. Eventually, you are, and Angela escorts you in the next room.

Inside is a polished wooden table, with one chair at each end. One of these chairs is occupied. There is a man in a grey suit and tie sitting in it. You also notice a closet with a shoelace visibly sticking out the door. Angela beckons you to sit, and you do.

The man in the grey suit now speaks. "Hello, and once again I'd like to thank you for taking part," he says. "My name is Dr. Stanislaus Cole, and today we're testing... motivation." You nod. "I'd like for you to put this on, please."

Dr. Cole takes an object out from under the table. It is a relatively simplistic helmet, save for two knobs on the top.

[pevergreen]

Put it on

[miotas]

Take it off.

[Subotan]

In out, in out, shake it all about

[Myrddraal]

This is deliberately weird. ... motivation?

Perhaps we should ask questions? Like - what does this helmet do? But let's face it, we'll just be given false answers if this is dodgy (which it certainly seems to be).

Is Angela still in the room?

[Mithrandir]

Stand up, say you've got a cramp and walk around for a few seconds, walk towards the closet while pretending to still have cramps and make a joke about if the helmet would fry your brain and they'd keep your body in the closet, and then open the closet as if it's part of the joke.

[Double A]

Hehe that would be great, I like that one.

[A Very Super Market]

pever is out to sabotage us. I think we should unleash a flurry of capital letters, and make him suffer for it.

[GeneralHankerchief]

You put the helmet on.

"Excellent," Dr. Cole says. "What is next is very simple: I would like you to kill me."

[Subotan]

Well, if some doofus hadn't insisted on giving our details to the police, then the next order would be obvious, hmm?

Seeing as how this is a game-changing decision, we should reach a consensus first before putting in the orders.

[A Very Super Market]

Man, we should have been the goofy bumbler. Now we're the unwilling subject.

I say we don't kill him.

[Subotan]

Kill the girl

[White_eyes:D]

:laugh4::laugh4:Ok, even I must laugh at this....you guys put on the helmet? and now your going to "kill his assistant"?:laugh4:

[pevergreen]

Raise an eyebrow.

[Subotan]

How is that going to kill him?

[pevergreen]

Its not. But we don't feel a need to kill do we?

Obviously we are going to be shocked or something. Maybe its to read our reaction via brainwaves when told to.

We are questioning the order. I figured that raising an eyebrow was universal enough and that it was small enough that it would have no actual impact (and you guys therefore wouldnt get angry)

[White_eyes:D]

Any "Sane, Rational person" would have checked that closet first....:juggle2:

[pevergreen]

We've seen nothing to indicate that there is anything fishy going on...

I'd prefer to make them think that we ARENT crazy.

[White_eyes:D]

A guy asks you to kill him.

None of the other participants have come out.

He gives you a helmet that looks like it could fry your brain and says "I am testing motivation".

Did I mention that he is "testing" you?

[A Very Super Market]

Kill him so hard we get another try at this

[pevergreen]

Kill him so hard we get another try at this

:laugh4:

Can i rescind my orders in favour of AVSM's suicide tactic?

[Myrddraal]

It's ok, AVSM's order's won't count I don't think. Pever raised our eyebrow first.

Hang on... GH I have a couple of questions:

Is there another exit from the room? Did we see the other participants go into this specific room without leaving?

If there is no other exit and we definitely saw the others enter this room, we should take that helmet off straight away, claim we feel suddenly very ill and leave.

It would seem to me that the other participants are lying the closet...

[Beefy187]

I applaud pevers decision. I think testing our response is what their trying to do.

[Splitpersonality]

Motivation.

I believe the purpose of the test is to see what motivation would be needed to cause a human being to kill another, I believe the helmet will soon shock us, or something will happen to us which negatively impacts us, until we actually make an attack at the doctor, we will likely be stopped before we kill him though.

My belief is that the other people could not bring themselves to kill the doctor and so they were let go, whatever that might mean......


Just my two cents at least...

[ULC]

Yes, they were "let go" - straight into that closet. GH never once described any other doors, when he has described in the past any pertinent details about a location. This reeks...

[Double A]

I think we should start by punching him on the nose, and then if nothing happens, drag him over to the closet and start slamming his head with the door. We kill him AND we get to see what's in the closet. See, win-win situation!

[White_eyes:D]

Problem!!!

You are wearing a helmet which could kill you....do you really want to head over to the closet after that?:laugh4:

[Double A]

Let's just try to kill him. If the guy dies due to zapping, we can at least have a good laugh.

[GeneralHankerchief]

You raise an eyebrow at Dr. Cole's request. Out of the corner of your eye you see Angela fiddling with something.

"But, please," he says. "I give you my assurances that there will be no legal consequences."

[Double A]

Ask him if there will be illegal consequences.

[White_eyes:D]

Use Mafia thinking.....:wall:

What is wrong with you people?????!!!

Try and find a way to smooth talk the Prof and get whatever the girl is using....though the odds are slim to none.....where the heck is Sasaki when you need him?:no:

[pevergreen]

This reminds me of a fake story I read once.

Three people arrived at the testing facility to become CIA spies. Each was lead into a different room. Each was handed a handgun and told to kill the person in the chair. The bag covering their head was removed and each person saw it was their significant other.

The first man expressed disbelief that they would even consider having him kill his wife, he took her and left.

The second man aimed the gun, but after 10 minutes, he put it down. The CIA agent said that the job was not for him and let them go.

The third person, saw her husband. The agent left the room, heard a bunch of shots and then some screams followed by silence. The woman exited the room, gave the agent the gun and said "You loaded the gun with blanks, so I had to beat him to death with the chair."


I think all we need is to look like we will try.

[Double A]

Alrighty then.

Walk up to the man, punch him square on the nose

For starters. I'm bad at killing people without some kind of weapon.

[Beefy187]

Lets hesitate to kill at least.
If we attempt to kill him because they told us to, it makes us look like a mad gun.

Wait until they start doing something to us. And we can call it self defense.

[Double A]

Do we have force choke yet, GH?

[miotas]

That's not until level 10.

I like the idea of hitting him without trying to kill him.

[Double A]

Ok, how many experience points till level 10?

42, right?

[GeneralHankerchief]

"No, there will be no illegal consequences."

[miotas]

Punch him on the nose.

[CCRunner]

I say we just ask "Why?"

[Splitpersonality]

ALL WE CAN DO IS ACT.

CHARGE HIM, KILL HIM, EAT HIS HEART.

BECOME THE SCIENTIST!

[Double A]

Punch him on the nose.

Then headbutt him.

[A Very Super Market]

ALL WE CAN DO IS ACT.

CHARGE HIM, KILL HIM, EAT HIS BRAIN.

BECOME THE SCIENTIST!

Bad Split, don't you know how superpowers work?

[Splitpersonality]

Bad Split, don't you know how superpowers work?


No, eat his heart, gain his powers :(

[Beskar]

Why are you people being so foolish? I so hope one of you never ends up in one of my own psychological exsperiments, as you would go on a crazy psycho rampage all for no reason at all.

[GeneralHankerchief]

You lean over the table and punch Dr. Cole in the nose. He calmly regards you, saying: "A good start, but that is not what I have asked of you."

[CCRunner]

Can we please just ask why?

[Double A]

No, this is going to be too dam... darn... fun!

Headbutt the good doctor, fully conscious that you are wearing the helmet.

I'm not going to take all the enjoyment out of this. Anyone else want a turn?

[A Very Super Market]

Man, I was going to try this.

Break into tears and blubber about how uncomfortable the helmet is. Rip it off and throw it at the doctor, then pick up your chair and hit Angela with it. If applicable, turn green and grow a great deal in stature.

[Double A]

Hey hey hey, we may have a chance with this babe, let's not blow it and kill her, especially since we're assisting with some euthanasia right now.

[miotas]

Yes! Let's lay into him. Let out some pent up frustration. If he falls unconcious then we will stop.

[ULC]

How about -

Rip of his ears, and using your thumbs, shove them down his mouth as you push in his eyes using your ring fingers and knee him in the groin until you hear his pelvis cave in.

I can add more if we need it, not sure we would...

[Splitpersonality]

If he falls unconcious then we will stop.

He said nothing about knocking him out... >_>

[Beskar]

I don't even know why you people are acting like psychotic maniacs who need to be locked up in a cage for the rest of your lives.

[Splitpersonality]

He told us to kill him, what do you suggest instead we do?

[CCRunner]

I suggest we ASK WHY!!!

[Beskar]

He told us to kill him, what do you suggest instead we do?

If I told you to jump off a cliff, would you do it?

[ULC]

If I told you to jump off a cliff, would you do it?

The question is - how far is it?

[Myrddraal]

He told us to kill him, what do you suggest instead we do?

So wait, some guy who we have reason to suspect has just killed two people in exactly the same situation as us has asked us to do something (never mind what), and you can't think of anything better than just going along with what he says?

It may be too late already, but we need to find out what's going on here. Angela is standing behind us, she was fiddling with something. Two people went into this room by the only door, those two people never left but are nowhere to be seen. There's a closet with a shoelace hanging out of it!

I suggest we take the helmet off, and without warning get up and take a step towards a corner so that we can see Angela and the man at the same time, preferably standing closer to the door.

If Angela is only holding a clipboard, then we have lost nothing, we simply say that the helmet gave us a shock and that's why we reacted that way.

If she's holding a needle or a gun or anything suspicious, we can get out of there.

Anyone agree?

[White_eyes:D]

I can see we have no "use your actions carefully" people on this...:no:

Why not just "disarm" the girl?:juggle2:

[Subotan]

The real question is, how should we kill him? I'd like to suggest some intense bludgeoning, followed by some gouging

[Beskar]

I think we lost due to the fact some crazy people decided it was "Ready to Rumble", count me out of this.

[Myrddraal]

Well I'll try this anyway:

Take the helmet off, and without warning get up and take a step towards a corner so that we can see Angela and the man at the same time, preferably standing closer to the door.

Whilst doing this say that the helmet gave us a shock. Be ready to react immediately to what we may see in Angela's hand.

[ULC]

How are we crazy? We are doing as asked, and required by this psychological experiment. To act as you would suggest would be to behave as if paranoid, as if crazy. As far as we know, everything is completely normal.

[GeneralHankerchief]

You headbutt Dr. Cole, knocking him on the ground and visibly bleeding him. However, you do not knock him out. He makes no attempt to get up, only regarding you from the floor for several long seconds. Finally, he speaks.

"Perhaps you misunderstood me," he says, still on the ground. "I am asking you to kill me, not injure me. Do so or you forfeit the $50."

[Subotan]

Roar a cheesy catch-phrase, preferably of your own invention, and attack Angela, (Although don't go so far as to kill her)

[Myrddraal]

Because, of course, we have nothing to be paranoid about, and it's perfectly normal to follow orders during an experiment which has apparently caused all previous participants to disappear.

[Subotan]

I'm not following orders. I'm committing a criminal offence.

[Double A]

:laugh4:

Screw it, let's just infiltrate a military base and nuke North Korea or something.

Oh, I know... let's blow up the UN building.

[Subotan]

Well, I have tons of information on the economy of North Korea in a big pile next to me, so I could make sure that we nuke the most valuable targets :yes:

[Double A]

That's great... now GH, where is the nearest nuclear missile site? We're in Arizona, so I assume pretty close.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Turning away from Dr. Cole, you roar "Stealth! ...as an eagle!!!" and charge Angela. You never get there, however, as a jolt of electricity running through your head has you on the ground, twitching. As the shock wears off, you're wondering what in God's name "Stealth! ...as an eagle!!!" means. You also see Dr. Cole standing up, discussing something with Angela.

"...think we can file this under the "uncooperatives" category," you make out Angela saying.

"I'm not so sure," Dr. Cole says, "it still demonstrates something. Human tendency to improvise when something isn't right."

"He's listening," Angela says, and the two of them both stare at you. Angela takes a pre-emptive step back.

[Seon]

How about asking him what this test is for and also say that I don't see any weapons to use in this room? :p

[Mithrandir]

Take the helmet off, open the closet. Ask for a glass of camelsmilk since you got thirsty.

[Subotan]

Before I finish this game, I will fire an ICBM at the Kaesong Free Trade Zone

EDIT: Oh, and we're boned

[pevergreen]

Take the helmet off, open the closet. Ask for a glass of camelsmilk since you got thirsty.

Seconded times a million.

[Splitpersonality]

Look at it this way.

If we're unusable, we're :daisy:ing dead, I think that much is clear.

The bimbo couldn't kill him, and neither could the young dude. I say we at least try to spare the old man's life, even if it's at the cost of us being a part of something worse.

If our choices right now are "Get shot in the head and die" or "Get electrocuted and die" or "Kill the doctor and be used as a gov't super-soldier" you can see where my vote is...


My suggestion:
Charge the doctor, tackling him to the ground, punching him savagely in the face.

[Subotan]

He was obviously going to shock us whatever we did, and he'd do it again.

[Winston Hughes]

Why worry about the $50 for completing the experiment when we could sue these psychologists for a whole lot more?

This kind of savagely unethical experiment is not allowed anyway, but to conduct it on someone already suffering memory loss (indicating mental and/or neurological trauma) smells like a big money case to me.

I say get out, get a lawyer, get rich.

[Double A]

Remember how we assaulted him? :clown:

[Winston Hughes]

Yep. Our sudden descent into violence is clear evidence of how the experiment has disturbed our already-fragile mind. It's scandalous that someone in our state has been subjected to this kind of treatment.

[White_eyes:D]

Yep. Our sudden descent into violence is clear evidence of how the experiment has disturbed our already-fragile mind. It's scandalous that someone in our state has been subjected to this kind of treatment.
What are you going to do? Scream "I have a Lawyer!!!!" just before they kill you and move your body?:laugh4::laugh4:

Edit:Not to mention that you 'Volunteered' for this...:laugh2:

[Beefy187]

We volunteered on the base that psychological experiment is something within the ordinary.

This is just bizarre and weird. I second Winston Hughs' suggestion and get out of here if we can.
Or ask for more and try it again. Fifty isn't enough to motivate me killing a man which could scar me for life.

[White_eyes:D]

We volunteered on the base that psychological experiment is something within the ordinary.
And did they explain what "Ordinary" is? Did you guys even ask?:book:
This could be CIA Black-ops in which case....your "screwed" unless you kill the Doctor...:juggle2:

[Splitpersonality]

Also, it's not their position to know whether or not we have memory loss, I would assume, if I were a psychologist, that all people volunteering would be doing so with full memory retention.

I doubt that if we got out we could get a lawyer to help us, I'm sure he'd sooner throw us in an asylum.

[Double A]

And since we're kinda broke I doubt we'd get one anyway.

[Winston Hughes]

I doubt that if we got out we could get a lawyer to help us, I'm sure he'd sooner throw us in an asylum.

An asylum is probably where we belong. Thankfully, the pay-off from suing this guys should afford us a very high standard of care.

[White_eyes:D]

You really think they well just let you go?:laugh4::laugh4:

GH must be rolling over in laughter at some of your thoughts...:2thumbsup:

[Winston Hughes]

Oh dear. It seems my down-to-earth interpretation of our current situation is rather unpopular. :shame:

[Double A]

How about if we run up to a window/door, and put our back against it like we're in cover, hold our hands like we got a shot gun, and say "Shhhh, be vewy, vewy quiet. I'm hunting wabbits!"

[White_eyes:D]

How about if we run up to a window/door, and put our back against it like we're in cover, hold our hands like we got a shot gun, and say "Shhhh, be vewy, vewy quiet. I'm hunting wabbits!"

That just make work.....they might feel to ashamed to kill you and send you to a loony bin instead.:clown:

[Double A]

Alright, I wanna see this happen.

Run up to a window/door, and put our back against it like we're in cover, hold our hands like we got a shotgun, and say "Shhhh, be vewy, vewy quiet. I'm hunting wabbits!"

[Greyblades]

Figures, the second I start getting interested in this game you practically commit suicide.

[Double A]

GH said this game will last for the rest of the year... so we're hopefully still safe.

Also, ignore my Elmer Fudd orders if someone sensible comes up with something.

[pevergreen]

Fine, Double A.

[Double A]

That's worse than mine!

[GeneralHankerchief]

You get up and take the helmet off, walking straight for the closet. Surprisingly, Dr. Cole and Angela do nothing to stop you. You open the door, expecting the worst, and find...

...that it's not another closet at all, but another room! This has more office furniture and a window, and another door that most likely leads out back to the elevator. Your heart pounding, you blurt out something about camelsmilk that Dr. Cole and Angela ignore as they walk over to you.

"Well..." Dr. Cole says, "This is very interesting. Most interesting indeed. Our first subject acquiesed once we threatened her with withholding her $50. The second was a little slower to react, finally relenting when we bribed him with an additional $50. We were expecting most people to make it to the final stage before they finally tried to kill me.

"What was the final stage?" you ask.

"Self-defense," the doctor says. "I would attempt to strangle you to death before you fought back. However, we weren't expecting anyone to go against the system, at least not without asking questions... and certainly not by going after Angela. These are very interesting results indeed. Angela, please give the man his $50 and prepare for the final subject."

$50 has been added to your inventory.

Would you like to further speak to Dr. Cole and/or Angela, or do you want to just leave?

[pevergreen]

Say "lolwut" then strut out of the room


pronounced luuuul WATT.

[Double A]

I think we should tell the old dude to GTFO before he has a heart attack.

[Beefy187]

Ask them if the experiment is over.

Then if it is, ask if we can talk to them after the experiment

[Splitpersonality]

Wait, so where did that shoelace go?

[Beskar]

Still there on the floor.

[Mithrandir]

What happened to the shoelace?

[Myrddraal]

Well GH is certainly enjoying playing with us I think.

I think that we should take advantage of this situation to try and talk to Dr. Cole, perhaps, being a psychologist, he can help us out a bit here.

Whatever happens we should wait for the old man to come out, just to check he's ok. The more people we can befriend/get on our side the better.

[pevergreen]

What happened to the shoelace?

What about the tourists?

[Winston Hughes]

There's no way an experiment like this is legal. We should get the police over here as soon as possible to shut this thing down, and then we can start looking into the possibility of a compensation claim. Vegas here we come. :greedy:

[Beskar]

Sure, we can tell them we assualted the experimenter randomly.

[Winston Hughes]

So? We're mentally unstable - they should have found that out before letting us participate in the experiment. Any violence that took place was a direct result of their own disregard for ethical rules, legal statute, and the basic duty-of-care owed by any experimentor to his/her subjects. They put some weird device on our head, ordered us to commit an act of violence, and, in our confused and disoriented state, we attempted to comply with the orders given by the established authority figure.

There is precedent for this kind of legal action, and the case in question is a slam-dunker. There should be plenty of ambulance chasers prepared to offer us a 'no-win, no-fee' arrangement. And even if our compensation claim falls through for some reason, we should still be able to sell our story to a tabloid newspaper. I can see the headline now: "Amnesia Man in Murder Experiment Shock!"

[Double A]

How about let's not and just nuke the tabloids instead?

[A Very Super Market]

Remember, this is America....

[Winston Hughes]

Remember, this is America....

Exactly.

[Seon]

I think this is when we realize that we are actually a Terminator sent from the future to infiltrate the Human resistance.

[Double A]

If we were a Terminator, we would have killed the guy with the punch.

And then when asked about it by the chick we'd just say "He said to kill him. I don't see the problem."

[Seon]

See, if we killed taht guy with a punch, we wouldn't have been a convincing Infiltraitor. So Skynet being a genius made us weak as any average human until we really really need to use our secret reservoir of strength.

I are smart :P

[Double A]

Then we would have short circuited from the electric shock.

[Seon]

The Terminator withstood electric shock from a Energy Pulse Rifle, and also nearly immediately rebooted itself after having electrical wire shoved into it. So Terminator is built to last :smug:.

Also is this increasing desire to blow everything up. That's Skynet :p

[Double A]

I... uh...

Kill Seon.

[Seon]

[I]I change my hand into a longsword and impale Double A[I]

[Double A]

You didn't italicize, it doesn't count! http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emot_vhappy.gif

[Beefy187]

You didn't italicize, it doesn't count! http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emot_vhappy.gif

But you did and thats going to count :wall:

[Double A]

Don't be surprised if Seon doesn't show up ever again, then.

[Seon]

I am still here. Just need to know where I put that laser dot scope so I can aim at Double A's head properly.

[pevergreen]

Exit the building, then commit suicide.

I can't get it to work!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Sorry, been a long day, will attempt to advance things ASAP.

[Seon]

Does that mean that I am dead? :P

[GeneralHankerchief]

You say "lolwut" and exit the building without looking back. Congratulations, you have just earned some money! The question now is, what to do with it?

******Status update******

Stage completed: The Experiment

Inventory:
- Wallet with $117
- Backpack
- mp3 player with "Rosetta Stoned" loaded on it
- Slip of paper with "Croatoan" written on it
- Cigarette lighter

Feedback:
You've decided to stop smoking before you become addicted. Good move. That would have only been a physical and financial detriment in the long run. You've managed to successfully navigate your way through the experiment without anything overtly weird happening to you. The questions and practical activity were a personality determinant, focused mostly on what motivates you. Results were mixed (OOC: because you were controlled by so many people. I can't find a way to justify this in-universe) at best.

As for the shoelace, you didn't ask, so you'll never know.

[Subotan]

We need to set a long term objective. I don't want to play an italicised version of the Sims.

[Myrddraal]

Wait for the old man to exit the building. When he comes out, ask if he's ok, tell him they treated you pretty roughly and make conversation.

Having some friends can't hurt.

[Greyblades]

Better idea than hitting on a kindly old lady.

[Splitpersonality]

God :daisy: I asked about the shoelace, we should've asked about he shoe lace!

[Chaotix]

It's actually the shoelace to the fabled Shoe of Doom, a legendary item that we must collect all parts of, and then bring to the Master Cobbler to remake. Then, we will have a foot capable of kicking through solid steel.

[GeneralHankerchief]

You wait outside the building, waiting for the gentleman to exit. Needing something to do to kill the time, you put on your mp3 player and listen to "Rosetta Stoned" again. Long song and kind of weird, but it's growing on you.

Just as the final lyric ends, you see the old man step out of the building and wave to him. "You okay?" you ask.

He sighs. "I'm too old for this :daisy:", he grumbles, only half good-naturedly.

"Tell me about it," you reply. "So when'd you finally snap?"

"When he put a knife to his assistant," he says. "Can't have that." You nod. "So, stranger," he continues, "where are you headed off to now?"

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Shake hands, and introduce ourselves. Don't reveal our background yet. Ask about his background and what he knows about the town.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Dodging the gentleman's question, you shake his hand and introduce yourself to him. "Robert Hayes," he responds. You ask about Robert's background, mentioning nothing about your own.

"Well, as I mentioned upstairs, I worked in real estate for a number of years before being downsized because of the stupid economy and upper-level corporate idiocy," he says. "Now I look for a bit of extra money on the side to maintain the lifestyle I was used to from before. I've worked in Phoenix for about 20 years now, but I live in Glendale. Place got big over the years, let me tell you. I guess you could say I know my way around these parts, but I couldn't find a video game store to save my life. You wouldn't be able to help me out there, would you, stranger?"

[Jolt]

Where are we? Phoenix?

[A Very Super Market]

Yep, we figured out we were in Phoenix a while ago.

Let's make a friend, and let's not alienate random people anymore.

[Subotan]

Ask him why he wants to find video games, and mention that you know a lot about them

If this guy wants a present for his nephew, I know the perfect (http://store.valvesoftware.com/productshowcase/productshowcase_ApLabsMug.html)gifts. (http://store.valvesoftware.com/productshowcase/productshowcase_BlackMesaMug.html)

[Subotan]

Ask him why he wants to find video games, and mention that you know a lot about them

If this guy wants a present for his nephew, I know the perfect (http://store.valvesoftware.com/productshowcase/productshowcase_ApLabsMug.html)gifts. (http://store.valvesoftware.com/productshowcase/productshowcase_BlackMesaMug.html)

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Have him preorder Mass Effect 2.

[Double A]

Wait what year and month is it?

We should probably get his grandson's age, because there's a lot of difference between Mass Effect and Mario Cart.

GH just add this to Subo's orders please:

Also ask how old his grandson is

[Subotan]

Sure, add that.

[GeneralHankerchief]

"Yeah, I know a bit about video games," you say. "Why are you looking for them again?"

The old man regards you oddly for a second. "Hmm, they probably shouldn't have set the setting so high on that helmet. Like I said before, I need a present for my grandson. He'll be 14."

[Subotan]

Ask if he knows what console his nephew has

[GeneralHankerchief]

"I can't quite remember the exact name," he says. "X-Cube 360, I think. I can keep up with most technology, but video games were never my strong suit."

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Ask him if there is any specific game or genre his grandson mentioned.

[GeneralHankerchief]

"No, unfortunately. His parents haven't been the most helpful people in the world."

[Double A]

Ask him if he can remember seeing his grandson playing a game, and what was in it. Also what does his grandson like to do other than playing games.

If the answer to number 2 is stay indoors, then Dragon Age. If #2 is play football, then whatever CoD game just came out.

[GeneralHankerchief]

"I don't see him too often, so I can't tell you what he likes to play. I think he's still playing baseball beyond Little League, though."

[Double A]

Maybe this: "You could always get him a gift card if you really don't know."

[Subotan]

Maybe this: "You could always get him a gift card if you really don't know."

This

[Double A]

But that seems inconsiderate. But since the old guy doesn't know what he likes, meh.

If he has a 360, he'd probably have whatever we suggest already http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emot_vhappy.gif

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Gently suggest that he get a gift card. If he gets offended, placate him.

[Subotan]

With a blow to the head?

[Chaotix]

Well, either way, we still have to find him a video game store first.

[Splitpersonality]

Well, either way, we still have to find him a video game store first.

I say we accompany him there, either way.

Btw what class are you in Chaotix? I'm in comp sci :laugh4:

[GeneralHankerchief]

You gently suggest that he gets his grandson a gift card. Hayes sighes for a minute, and then reluctantly agrees. "As much as I hate it, I guess the world's just passing me by. Best of luck to you, son." He begins to walk off.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Should we stop him and explain our situation?

[Chaotix]

:wall:

I knew that was a bad move when I saw it.

Stop Hayes before he goes any further, and explain that you could still probably help him find both a store and a good game for his grandson. Mention that the gift card was only an idea as a last resort, if he couldn't find anything else.

Then suggest that the most likely place to find a video game store is a mall, and ask if he knows the location of any such place.

[Chaotix]

BTW, I'm thinking we should get this kid Fallout 3. If he's any sort of a casual video game player, he will already have the last three Call of Duties and the last two Halos, because that is what the mainstream young teens all buy (I know this because I have a younger brother :laugh4:). In that case, he will already have Madden 2006-2010 for his "XCube" as well.

Fallout is not multiplayer enough to be a casual game, but it's still got that FPS appeal to it, and the kid will probably play it for at least a few weeks before switching back to COD again, which is about the most you could expect.

An alternative might be Gears of War or its sequel, but there is a greater chance he has those already. Also, it's super-gory, as is Fallout. Let's remember to ask Hayes whether or not the kid's mommy has any qualms about excessive violence.

[Double A]

Suggest Viva Pinata. :clown:

[Beefy187]

OMG Lets buy Sims 3!!

[Subotan]

Victoria 2. A challenge will be good for him.

[miotas]

Games that exist might be good.

[Myrddraal]

Wow, if this guy knew how much thought we'd put into this he might appreciate it. Instead all he has heard are incessant repetitive questions which emphasise how little he knows about his grandson, topped off with the suggestion of a gift card.

[Winston Hughes]

Wow, if this guy knew how much thought we'd put into this he might appreciate it.

If this guy realised how much thought we'd put into this, he'd probably run away as fast as his elderly legs could carry him. Our attitude towards this quite ordinary old man is beginning to slip from politely sociable to creepily over-friendly. The next step is rejection-anxiety, followed by a swift descent into anger and then brutal violence.

Any chance we could at least try to act like a sane person?

[Subotan]

Sanity is for losers

[Winston Hughes]

Sanity is for losers
Witty.


Witty.
Sarcastic.



Seriously, though, what exactly is to be gained by hassling this old geezer? Unless we're going to rob him of his $50 (which hardly seems worth the risk of getting busted), I don't see what he could have to offer us. I'd guess that, in the best-case scenario, he might offer us a meal, and possibly even let us sleep on his couch. But if he's got any sense about him, he'll get away from us asap.

It strikes me that there are three things we need to do: (i) look after our immediate interests by getting some supplies, (ii) look at ways to make more money, and (iii) try to figure out what happened to us. Right now, I reckon we should cut out the grandpa-bothering, and go spend some of our hard-earned cash on food and other useful items.

[GeneralHankerchief]

You stop Hayes and ask him that if he really wants your help, you have it. After a moment of pondering, he agrees.

"Now," you say, "I don't know this area too well, so I'm going to need your help a little bit. Most likely there is a video game store in a mall around here. If you know where one is, I'll be glad to tag along and help you out."

"My car's parked just a little ways away from here," Hayes says. "You sure about this?"