The Consequences [Concluded]

[Subotan]

Yep

Witty.


Sarcastic.

I was making the point that playing this nice and conventionally, so it's like the Sims in italics is boring.



Seriously, though, what exactly is to be gained by hassling this old geezer? Unless we're going to rob him of his $50 (which hardly seems worth the risk of getting busted), I don't see what he could have to offer us. I'd guess that, in the best-case scenario, he might offer us a meal, and possibly even let us sleep on his couch. But if he's got any sense about him, he'll get away from us asap.

We've got nothing to lose. And grandpa hassling/helping is fun.


It strikes me that there are three things we need to do: (i) look after our immediate interests by getting some supplies, (ii) look at ways to make more money, and (iii) try to figure out what happened to us. Right now, I reckon we should cut out the grandpa-bothering, and go spend some of our hard-earned cash on food and other useful items.
I did suggest that earlier, but nobody listened.

[Winston Hughes]

I was making the point that playing this nice and conventionally, so it's like the Sims in italics is boring.

I agree. It's just that spending days (RL time) helping some old bloke buy a video game for his nephew strikes me as both boring and unlikely to get us anywhere very helpful. But, hey, maybe I'm wrong about the latter part. In any case, it seems our bizarre interest in helping him buy this game has failed to give him any doubts about our motives or sanity.

Of course, it's always possible that this is just a ruse on his part, and gramps is actually planning on luring us back to his place so he can eat us for his dinner...

[Double A]

Then we get $50 and can write a book about it :beam:

[Subotan]

Calvin Hobbes: My Story.

I'd buy it.

[Double A]

You have to write it first.

[Subotan]

With $50 I'm sure we could get a half decent ghost writer for Calvin, especially considering that his life amounts to not 30 pages on an internet forum.

[GeneralHankerchief]

You get in Hayes's car and the two of you drive off to the nearest mall. As you enter the parking lot, you notice a large sign that says "Welcome to Metrocenter". After parking, you exit the car, enter the mall, and look at the site map provided. There's a Gamestop on the first level, a few doors down from the Old Navy.

Would you like to accompany Robert to the store, or explore a bit on your own?

[Beefy187]

Accompany Robert to the store

We can explore later.

[pevergreen]

I wonder what would happen if we yelled out "AMERICA SUCKS!"

[Double A]

We'd get shot.

[Beefy187]

We'll get some more laddies following the old man.
Hungry for blood.

[Winston Hughes]

We'll get some more laddies following the old man.

laddies = young scottish boys? :anxious:

[GeneralHankerchief]

You decide to accompany Robert to Gamestop, paying attention to the stores you pass on the way there. These include several smaller clothing stores, an Old Navy, a Macy's, a candle shop, a boardgame store, an airbrush store for your shirts, not to mention the countless locations in parts of the mall you haven't visited yet.

The two of you enter the Gamestop, where all of the salespeople/cashiers are busy.

[Greyblades]

Uh yeah I dont want to be ignorant but what are those shops?

[Double A]

Old Navy - sells a lot of blue jeans and other clothes
Macy's - women's clothes store. There may be men's clothing, but no men have actually been in there to look
Gamestop - formerly known as EB Games.

[Beskar]

I have to be honest, I heard of a Robert Hayes before...

[Chaotix]

Macy's - women's clothes store. There may be men's clothing, but no men have actually been in there to look

:laugh4:



Gamestop - formerly known as EB Games.

Actually, they're two different stores. EB and Gamestop were around at the same time, but eventually Gamestop wound up buying EB entirely, hence the name-change in the EB stores.

As for Robert Hayes, Beskar, you may or may not be thinking about the US president Rutherford Hayes. Then again, "Hayes" is not particularly uncommon.

[Subotan]

Walk over to the FPS Section (If we assume this is some mythical paradise Gamestop where games are arranged by genre rather than platform) and observe the slection of titles

[GeneralHankerchief]

This is not some mythical paradise Gamestop where games are arranged by genre rather than platform.

[Subotan]

Oh.

[Beskar]

Go to xbox360 section.

[GeneralHankerchief]

You arrive at the XBox 360 section. Awaiting you there is the usual assortment of games: Madden 10, Modern Warfare 2, Halo 3, etc.

[Double A]

Crap, kid may have, kid already has, etc.

Alright, my vote goes to Mass Effect 2.

[Beefy187]

We can always get him a total war game. I think thats the spirit of this forum.
But otherwise, Mass effect should be good

[Subotan]

Mass Effect :yes:

[Joooray]

But which rating has Mass Effect 2? If I remember correctly the kid is only 15, so if it is PG-16 we might get into problems with the grandpa. :shrug:
I suggest to ask if he is into a certain type of sports and maybe get him the newest version of this sports simulation. :shrug:

[Jolt]

This is retarded. I got an idea. How about we ditch the grandpa, and listen to the music we have on the MP3 we encountered in the beginning to look for clues or hidden meaning that have something to do with our life? Sounds much better than running around helping an old person.

[Joooray]

Yes, you are right, but the problem is, that we got to the mall we are at with the car of the grandpa. So we have little to no clue how to get where we started out or anywhere else. :shrug:
I think we should help him and then ask him to drive us back into the city, or tell us how we got there and explore the mall for a bit.

[Double A]

We got a free ride to the mall, didn't we?

Now we at least know where it is, and we won't have to go around asking random people going "Can you tell me where the mall is?" before someone calls the cops.

And we've almost got the "assisting the elderly" badge, don't ruin it! We have to get enough so we don't look bad when the soapbox derby comes around!

[Chaotix]

Ask Hayes whether his grandson's mother has any qualms about excessive violence in the video games her son plays.

The last thing we want to do is get this old coot's daughter/in-law pissed at him.

[Subotan]

Mass Effects's violence is hardly excessive. It's the possibility of extra-terrestrial sexual intercourse that would freak out gramps.

[GeneralHankerchief]

"I don't think she wants anything ridiculously violent, but aside from that there shouldn't be a problem."

[Subotan]

Mass Effect then

[Myrddraal]

Ok, let's suggest something and be done with it!

[GeneralHankerchief]

For everyone's convenience, I've posted a summary and reference thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?126055-The-Consequences-Summary-and-reference-thread), with the aim of it being updated monthly. Ideally you'll go there if you need to remember something about a particular encounter, or if you just want to reflect on where you've been.

Still waiting on orders btw. :yes:

[Chaotix]

Search for the games "Mass Effect 2" and "Fallout 3".

[GeneralHankerchief]

Both games are in stock. Mass Effect 2 is $50, Fallout 3 is $40.

[Double A]

Oh Fallout 3... he could use the extra 10 bucks for DLC.

Or he could give us some food.

[miotas]

We should go skip surfing with the old man, he's poor too right? ~D

[Myrddraal]

Fallout 3?

[Captain Blackadder]

Sounds good to me

Suggest Fallout 3 to man then talk about soundtrack of game ask old man if he is a fan of Roy Brown.

[Greyblades]

Um isn't fallout 3 an 18+?

[Double A]

It's a lot more violent than ME2.

But tell him to get ME2 if he wants to get the less violent game

[Chaotix]

None of that's going to work. Before you actually buy anything, make sure you read out the ESRB rating to him. That way he can decide for himself whether the game is too violent/smexy or not.

I'm not going to be around to post that when GH does the write-up.

[Double A]

Then do an add-on order. I don't mind what gets said.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Hayes's face lights up at the mention of Roy Brown. "Now there's a name I haven't heard in years," he says excitedly. "Are you saying that they put his music in the game? Sold!" He takes the game and walks up to the counter where there is one person ahead of him.

[Double A]

Who's Roy Brown?

The only composer I'm familiar with is Jeff van Dyke.

[miotas]

Roy Brown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Brown_%28blues_musician%29) is a blues muso. Google is your friend.

Wait for him to buy the game.

[Double A]

Awesome!

[Splitpersonality]

Perhaps we just set up a good device to help bond grandfather and grandson, through the power of video game music.

That'd be pretty cool if we managed to do that :D

[Stildawn]

Um... Is it just me or have we taken a very random tangent in this game...

Like we woke up in a dark room in a crazy dudes house with no memory and now we are helping an old dude buy a video game.... Like who would do that.... We are altogether too calm for the circumstances....

I say we explain in full our situation to the old dude, hopefully he is understanding due to the amount of effort and niceness we have shown him (have we done this already?) then I reckon we see what he says and if good we continue with his help, if not we make our way to an internet cafe... Or somewhere where there is internet access.... We need to get back on the "Finding out what the hell happened to us" route instead of this randomness.

[Myrddraal]

I think getting to a hospital in the hope of seeing a doctor or a psychologist might be a good idea... but then, how does it work in the US: (excuse my ignorance) if we don't have any money/health insurance will we be turned away?

[Splitpersonality]

I'm pretty sure we'll be turned away without any health insurance cards. I doubt we have one too, but it is possible we could go there and have them look us up.

I don't know how we'd do that, but it's an idea.

[Double A]

Let's just do nothing for 3 in-game years. Then well have heath coverage.

And a lot of other things... *grumble*

[Subotan]

NEVER

We are now committed to video gamez

[Splitpersonality]

We should get a job, go to school for video game design, and then make a video game based on our story! :o

[Subotan]

And make millions off the stupid chumps who'd play it.

[Stildawn]

I see we are on a tangent again....

I might just go a head and do it lol meh who cares its only a game you can all kill me later....

After he buys the game, offer to shout him a coffee at a local (in mall) cafe.... When sitting down talking... Explain in full in as sane a way as possible your predictament... Saying that you have no idea who you are etc... And that the Police dont know either.... Wait for his reaction... Be as unthreatening and nice and kind as possible.

I see that there already is a posted order waiting for him to buy the game.... Just do this one next as it leads on after that

[Subotan]

NOOOOOO

We can't explain to him!

[Double A]

We may as well divide by zero if we try to explain it.

[Chaotix]

It's fine, an order before that last one has already been made, so it won't be submitted.

[Stildawn]

If we dont get some form of help from this dude... Then the whole like weeks worth of running this game has been pointless... We need to get on mission and stop screwing around... Maybe he will help us... At very least he could take us home and give us some food or something....

If I made friends with someone in real life and they then told me they suffered amensia I would try to help them lol thats all.

[Beefy187]

Unless that person is a complete liar like Piano man and we are only after the money of poor gentleman like him.
Making friends is good, but we can't expect them to completely believe us when we say something like "amnesia"

[Double A]

He already spent his money though.

Or at least most of it. Why would we try to take $10 when we could have had $50?

[Splitpersonality]

I think we can buy the dude a cup of coffee to talk over. Unless he really absolutely has to leave.

[Stildawn]

exactly so now we should push for random help, like a place to stay, food, bathroom etc.... We could make good friends with him and perhaps he'd give us a room while we figure out who we are.....

[Splitpersonality]

Exactly.

I'd urge you guys not to think of this as a fruitless attempt. Any attempt to get ourselves in contact with a normal human is a step in the right direction right now.

Perhaps we can bond on the common ground of the psychological experiment? Who knows :shrug:

[Double A]

Hey GH what would have happened if we went with the bimbo or the college student? Did you already give them a backstory and everything?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Hayes buys the game and slips you $5 as the two of you exit the store.

$5 has been added to your inventory.

"For sticking around and helping me," he says. "You don't know how much I appreciate this. Do you need a ride back to town?"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Hey GH what would have happened if we went with the bimbo or the college student? Did you already give them a backstory and everything?

I don't discuss hypotheticals in this game, at least not until it's over. Your character doesn't know what would have happened had he chosen something different, so neither do you. :beam:

[Stildawn]

aka "yes" lol

[Stildawn]

After he buys the game, offer to shout him a coffee at a local (in mall) cafe.... When sitting down talking... Explain in full in as sane a way as possible your predictament... Saying that you have no idea who you are etc... And that the Police dont know either.... Wait for his reaction... Be as unthreatening and nice and kind as possible.

[Double A]

Well there goes our five bucks.

And we don't "shout" people coffee over here.

[Subotan]

GAH

What did I just say? WE CAN'T EXPLAIN TO HIM

[GeneralHankerchief]

Hayes politely denies your coffee offer. "Thanks, but no thanks, my friend," he says, "but I have to be elsewhere today. Here is where we part, unless you need a ride back."

[Jolt]

Nod and say that you need a ride back, thanking him for his kindness. Whilest coming back, turn on the MP3 and listen to the music for clues about things of your past life or parts which might have to do with something you can remember about your life.

[Subotan]

And btw the police do know.

[Myrddraal]

How is telling our character to listen to the music going to magically provide us with clues? Why not listen to the music or read the lyrics here?

[Subotan]

Assuming we have just listened to it, here are the lyrics.

Alrighty, then ... picture this if you will.

10 to 2 AM, X, Yogi DMT, and a box of Krispy Kremes,
In my "need to know" pose, just outside of Area 51
Contemplating the whole "chosen people" thingy
When a flaming stealth banana split the sky
Like one would hope but never really expect
To see in a place like this.
Cutting right angle donuts on a dime
And stopping right at my Birkenstocks,
And me yelping...

Holy :daisy:ing :daisy:!

Then the X-Files being,
Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan
With Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of
Vanilla Chig Champa
Did a slow-mo Matrix descent
Outta the butt end of the banana vessel
And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,
And my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,
And all I could think was:
"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice
That I pissed my :daisy:in' pants."

So light in his way,
Like an apparition, [that]
He had me crying out,
":daisy: me
It's gotta be
The Deadhead Chemistry
The blotter got [right] on top of me
Got me seein' E-:daisy:in'-T!"

And after calming me down
With some orange slices
And some fetal spooning,
E.T. revealed to me his singular purpose.
He said, "You are the Chosen One,
The One who will deliver the message.
A message of hope for those who choose to hear it
And a warning for those who do not."
Me. The Chosen One?
They chose me!!!
And I didn't even graduate from :daisy:in' high school.

You'd better...
You'd better...
You'd better...
You'd better listen.

Then he looked right through me
With somniferous almond eyes
Don't even know what that means
Must remember to write it down
This is so real
Like the time Dave floated away
See, my heart is pounding
'Cause this :daisy: never happens to me

I can't breathe right now!

It was so real,
Like I woke up in Wonderland.
All sorta terrifying
I don't wanna be all alone
While I tell this story.
And can anyone tell me why
Y'all sound like Peanuts parents?
Will I ever be coming down?
This is so real
Finally, it's my lucky day
See, my heart is racing
'Cause this :daisy: never happens to me

I can't breathe right now!

You believe me, don't you?
Please believe what I've just said!
See the Dead ain't touring
And this wasn't all in my head.
See, they took me by the hand
And invited me right in.
Then they showed me something
I don't even know where to begin.

Strapped down [to] my bed
Feet cold [and] eyes red
I'm out of my head
Am I alive? Am I dead?
Can't remember what they said
:daisy: :daisy:, [soiled] the bed.

Hey ...

Overwhelmed as one would be, placed in my position.
Such a heavy burden now to be the One
Born to bear and bring to all the details of our ending,
To write it down for all the world to see.

But I forgot my pen
[soiled] the bed again ...
Typical.

Strapped down [to] my bed
Feet cold and eyes red
I'm out of my head
Am I alive? Am I dead?
Sunkist and Sudafed *
Gyroscopes and infrared
Won't help, I'm brain dead
Can't remember what they said
:daisy: :daisy:, soiled the bed

I can't remember what they said to me
Can't remember what they said to make me out to be a hero
Can't remember what they said
Bob help me!
Can't remember what they said

[We] don't know, [and we] won't know (x12)

:daisy: :daisy:, [soiled] the bed!
Only clue I can think of is that we go and buy some donuts :shrug:

[Planting daisies - GH]

[Double A]

No wonder the song is called Rosetta Stoned...

[Chaotix]

Did we seriously just pass up a chance to explore the mall and gear up? You guys make the worst decisions possible in every situation!

[Double A]

Wait, who did that? Jolt?

Go directly to Jolt's house and punch him.

I wanted to check out Macy's! GAWD!

[Subotan]

Relax. There will be other malls.

Besides, why do you all want to gear up for a fight, when we don't know if Calvin Hobbes is going to do any more fighting

[Jolt]

How is telling our character to listen to the music going to magically provide us with clues? Why not listen to the music or read the lyrics here?

Usually when you can't remember about a certain name you want to tell someone, if that someone by chance says that name, chances are you'll remember it as the name you originally had forgot.

Same thing for amnesia. Unless you're saying that the doctors recommendations to speak about familliar things to people who suffer amnesia as a means of ensuring a speedy recovery is wrong.

In any case, what is there to be explored in teh mall?

[Myrddraal]

So you mean it might trigger a flash back. Worth a try, but I'd guess that GH won't be so generous :wink:.

[Double A]

Stores.

[GeneralHankerchief]

On your way back, you listen to Rosetta Stoned once again. You gain absolutely no new insight on the song, other than the fact that it's quite long and the lyrics still don't make any sense. After dropping you off in downtown Phoenix (as a matter of fact, right in front of that office building the experiment took place in), Hayes bids you well and drives off. You have helped a gentleman and gotten $5 for it, but what do you do now?

******Status update******

Stage completed: Vidya Games

Inventory:
- Wallet with $122
- Backpack
- mp3 player with "Rosetta Stoned" loaded on it
- Slip of paper with "Croatoan" written on it
- Cigarette lighter

Feedback:
Little by little, your financial situation is improving. Help 16 more grandfathers out and you'll be back to where you were money-wise before the man in Surprise took $100 from you as payment for breaking and entering. However, you may have passed up a chance to further explore the mall. Metrocenter was big and active.

You could always go back there, but there are choices aplenty. There is no more unfinished business to take care of. Think carefully on what to do next, for right now the only limits on your possibilities are the ones your collective imagination places on them.

[Greyblades]

Maybe we should by a gun and skii mask, then go and take our money back from that goit with the shot gun

[Joooray]

Maybe we should by a gun and skii mask, then go and take our money back from that goit with the shot gun

AND we could improve our financial situation with the items even more afterwards. :yes: First we may want to assemble a team of specialist though. :yes:

[Greyblades]

I'm pretty sure catching him unawares will do as good a job. Heck we dont need to get a gun at all. All we would have to do is sneak in, knock him out, take our 100 bucks back and sabotage his shotgun for good measure.

[Subotan]

We need to set out Calvin Hobbes' objectives.


Find out why we were left abandoned in a totally dark room in a guy's house in Arizona
Find out why we have no recollection of events prior to our "awakening"
Find out why there we do not even officially exist
If it is the responsibility of a specific individual or organisation, then we need to bring them to justice
Not do anything which impedes our chances of achieving the above

I can't think of any others, or any immediate means to achieve them. As I said, I think our best option now is to go to a Krispy Kreme :shrug:

[Double A]

Look around at the surrounding buildings.

Be on the lookout for any Krispy Kreme stores.

[miotas]

Find out why there we do not even officially exist

The fact that we aren't in the police database just shows that we haven't been arrested, not that we don't exist.

[Double A]

I think I know how to find out how we exist.

Pinch self

[Greyblades]

I dont suppose there would be any way of finding out at a internet cafe?

[miotas]

I feel pain in my dreams, so pinching wont work. I don't think the internet will help us since we don't know our name. Maybe we could get a page on facebook with just our picture and an explanation that we have no memories and would like anyone who recognises us to get in contact. Probably wont be a very quick solution, but this is going to a long game after all.

[Double A]

I hate Facebook. Anything we do in this game that involves it is either A) shooting its creator(s) or B) nuking its servers.

[Captain Blackadder]

I feel pain in my dreams, so pinching wont work. I don't think the internet will help us since we don't know our name. Maybe we could get a page on facebook with just our picture and an explanation that we have no memories and would like anyone who recognises us to get in contact. Probably wont be a very quick solution, but this is going to a long game after all.

Better solution would be to print up posters of ourselves and paste them over the area since we are most likely in our home town we could find someone who knows us.

[Stildawn]

Hi All.... I may or may not have made a break through...

I just watched the movie Smokin Aces... And at the very end the main FBI guys says.... "So is he our rosetta stone" or something like that.... He is refering to a FBI agent who went deep undercover ages ago (like WWII time) using surgery to make himself look like a Mob boss..... The FBI then went rouge and actually pretended to be the Mob boss for ages (up until present day)....

So maybe we are an undercover agent or something like that.... Dont know if I have anything here just thought Id share....

Also searched this....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_Stone

[Subotan]

The fact that we aren't in the police database just shows that we haven't been arrested, not that we don't exist.
That's true. Maybe we could go to the town hall and look for a birth certificate.

I hate Facebook. Anything we do in this game that involves it is either A) shooting its creator(s) or B) nuking its servers.
Along with North Korea :yes:

Hi All.... I may or may not have made a break through...

I just watched the movie Smokin Aces... And at the very end the main FBI guys says.... "So is he our rosetta stone" or something like that.... He is refering to a FBI agent who went deep undercover ages ago (like WWII time) using surgery to make himself look like a Mob boss..... The FBI then went rouge and actually pretended to be the Mob boss for ages (up until present day)....

So maybe we are an undercover agent or something like that.... Dont know if I have anything here just thought Id share....

Also searched this....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_Stone
Um, we all know what the Rosetta Stone is. And I doubt that GH would lift this games plot directly from a mediocre crime movie.

[Jolt]

Let's go to the Hospital and actually consult the professionals who can help us in our condition.

EDIT: Doesn't the USA have some sort of database with all the fingerprints of its citizens? If so, then we can go to some sort of public institution to find who we are through our fingerprints.

[Subotan]

I suppose we could do that. But there doesn't seem to be anything medically wrong with us.

[Joooray]

Let's go to the Hospital and actually consult the professionals who can help us in our condition.

EDIT: Doesn't the USA have some sort of database with all the fingerprints of its citizens? If so, then we can go to some sort of public institution to find who we are through our fingerprints.

As far as I know there is no central database of US citizens at all, but are we sure we are from the US? If we came from abroad, our fingerprints might be registered somewhere. :shrug:

[Myrddraal]

But there doesn't seem to be anything medically wrong with us.

Apart from a severe case of amnesia and multiple personality disorder.

[A Very Super Market]

As far as I know there is no central database of US citizens at all, but are we sure we are from the US? If we came from abroad, our fingerprints might be registered somewhere. :shrug:

Too much crime shows? The only reason we would have comprehensive info in a database like that would be if we were a felon of some sorts. I don't think fingerprinting are mandatory anywhere.

[Beskar]

Too much crime shows? The only reason we would have comprehensive info in a database like that would be if we were a felon of some sorts. I don't think fingerprinting are mandatory anywhere.

They are currently trying to introduce it in America and Europe. In the form of "biometric" passports, etc, where they store info like iris and fingerprints.

[A Very Super Market]

Yes, but since we already know this is just modern day Phoenix, it's still rather unlikely. Of course, if we were truly an undercover agent planted by the government, we might have files laying around. Or they simply destroyed them.

[Double A]

Along with North Korea :yes:

That's a given!

[GeneralHankerchief]

As previously mentioned, you are in the same spot as before. It is mostly office buildings with not a Krispy Kreme in sight.

To the north is the uptown area in which you were before, to the south is more industrial, to the west is the road back to Surprise, and to the east is more city, and eventually residences and suburbs.

[Subotan]

That's a given!
Super!

And btw, GH, do we have to eat, sleep, go to the toilet etc.?

[Myrddraal]

Perhaps we should head back to where we started. Try and work out why on earth we were in that guy's basement. Only issue is how to approach him, he seems rather... temperamental.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Super!

And btw, GH, do we have to eat, sleep, go to the toilet etc.?

Nope.

[Subotan]

Cool. I guess that absolves us of the need to rent a flat or something.


To the north is the uptown area in which you were before, to the south is more industrial, to the west is the road back to Surprise, and to the east is more city, and eventually residences and suburbs.
Looking at these options, South, West and staying put all look pretty pointless. So it's either North or East. GH, by "city", do you just mean more office buildings?

[Stildawn]

I still think an internet cafe would be a great idea.... It could provide worlds of information and jobs etc....

[Subotan]

We're not playing the Sims. We don't need a job. And we already have access to the internet right now.

That said...maybe it would be a good idea to look for info about Systech.

[Stildawn]

And search in game missing persons etc? There are plenty of in game things we can do on the net (in game)

[Double A]

GH, what will happen if we come across this thread on the Internet?

[Seon]

Nope.

That just proved that our character is a terminator. :p

[GeneralHankerchief]

Looking at these options, South, West and staying put all look pretty pointless. So it's either North or East. GH, by "city", do you just mean more office buildings?

Yeah. It's a gradual transition from commercial to residential to suburbs.


GH, what will happen if we come across this thread on the Internet?

You don't want to know. :evil:

[Greyblades]

So I'm guessing everyone is for the internet option?
Head east and look for a internet cafe or public library

[Subotan]

*Although stop and go into a Krispy Kreme store if you see one or an equivalent

[Greyblades]

Whats so important about finding snack food?

[Subotan]

There was something about donuts in Rosetta Stoned.

[Greyblades]

You know I just had a thought, seeing as the internet is full of people analysing pretty much everything we might be able to squeeze afew clues out of the song by searching the band's forums. In game of course.

[Double A]

Greyblades, have you ever had a Krispy Kreme donut?


You don't want to know. :evil:

Actually, I do. That's why I asked :clown:

[miotas]

Krispy Kreme's doughnuts way too expensive for such a small piece of pastry.

[pevergreen]

They may be cheaper over there...

Tell you what though. I don't enjoy paying $3 for a bloomin' iced donut from Donut king...

[Double A]

Since when do you pay three bucks for a donut?

And isn't it like eight for a dozen?

[Stildawn]

Again we are off topic lol

[pevergreen]

Since when do you pay three bucks for a donut?

And isn't it like eight for a dozen?

http://www.rfg.com.au/images/userimages/dk/yeastpineapple.jpg

$2.80 for the small one. For the big yeast one, a bit more.

Cinnamon ones are... 12 for $10 IIRC.

of course, thats just around where I live...

[Double A]

Wow your donuts are pretty expensive...

[GeneralHankerchief]

You head east. You don't see any internet cafes in sight, but eventually you come to a public library. It's a modest building, clearly not the biggest branch in the city, but it will serve for whatever you have in mind.

You enter the building. Would you like to look around?

[Double A]

Look around real quick.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Directly in front of you is the reference desk. Behind the desk begins the shelved books. To your left is a cluster of computers, and to your right is the checkout desk with library staff offices behind it.

[Greyblades]

Hmm lets see, if I remember correctly, some american public libraries have a password system for the computers.

[Shaka_Khan]

Look for the fashion books section.
Find a woman/women reading a book there. Can a woman total.org member act as that woman in the library?

[Subotan]

Go over to the reference desk, and ask whether you can use the computers


Look for the fashion books section.
Find a woman/women reading a book there. Can a woman total.org member act as that woman in the library?
...

[Double A]

Yeah they're all password protected.

We can probably get a membership for free. I know five bucks can get you a 30 day one though. I probably was at this library two months ago :laugh4:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Apologies, I've been down with a case of cabin fever/RL drama these past couple of days. Things should be moving rather swiftly again.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You approach the reference desk and ask about the computer policy. The librarian indicates that you need a library card to be able to log on, or if you want temporary access, it's $2 for two hours.

[Subotan]

Pay up, log on and open up Firefox

[Captain Blackadder]

I think a good thing to do here would be set up a website and make some kind of challange to the internet to find out who we are. Something along the lines of http://dvice.com/archives/2009/10/find-10-balloon.php except instead make it find my name/birthday/occupation.

[GeneralHankerchief]

You pay up and make your way to the computers. Lucky you! There is one spot available. Unfortunately, it is next to a 40-ish year old man with very long hair who appears to be looking at "artistic" sketches of nude women. Oh, the library attracts all types of folk.

Ignoring your neighbor, you log on. Unfortunately for you, the library's IT guy is definitely not earning his pay. The only available browser is *shudder* IE6. You open it up anyway.

$2 has been removed from your inventory.

[Greyblades]

Search the local news websites for any missing persons stories.

[Double A]

What's IE6?

(add-on orders)

In another tab, Google Krispy Kreme donuts Phoneix AZ . And in another tab, use Dogpile to check for Umbrella or whatever the corporation we read about's name is.

[Joooray]

IE6 would be Internet Explorer 6 ... so no tabbed browsing. Like in the good ol' days. :laugh4:

[Greyblades]

I thought this was supposed to be modern day not 1999. Wow this library is underfunded.

[GeneralHankerchief]

You go over the local news websites to see if there are any missing persons stories. There is only one: A six-year-old black girl was abducted last week when she was separated from her parents playing in one of Phoenix's parks.

You highly doubt that this is you.

One hour and 40 minutes of computer time remains.

[Greyblades]

Spread out to state News, country wide new and if all that fails check out sites from other english speaking countries.

[pevergreen]

One hour and 40 minutes of computer time remains.

It took 20 minutes to load the local news?

[Beskar]

The internet was on 56k.

Go to https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/ then head to the gameroom section and read this thread.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Your search of missing persons comes up empty.

One hour of computer time remains.

[Double A]

After this, we're taking a typing class.

[GeneralHankerchief]

After this, we're taking a typing class.

Hey now, I had an internship a while back where, for five months, I did nothing but scour news sites for relevant information, linked it, and summarized it, emailing the summary to my boss. Sometimes it took hours to do. For parameters as broad as you guys gave me, you're lucky I only made it take forty minutes. :tongue:

[Double A]

BAH!

From now on, unless we say otherwise, assume we only use the first page of Google and skim through the article.

[Beskar]

Go to https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/ then head to the gameroom section and read this thread "The Consequences".

[GeneralHankerchief]

You go to the URL and find this waiting for you:

Unable to connect to database server:

If you still have to install Drupal, proceed to the installation page.

If you have already finished installed Drupal, this either means that the username and password information in your settings.php file is incorrect or that we can\'t connect to the MySQL database server. This could mean your hosting provider\'s database server is down.

The MySQL error was: .

Currently, the username is 'totalwarbeta' and the database server is 'swoopdb.telefragged.com'.

* Are you sure you have the correct username and password?
* Are you sure that you have typed the correct hostname?
* Are you sure that the database server is running?

For more help, see the Installation and upgrading handbook. If you are unsure what these terms mean you should probably contact your hosting provider.

Upon multiple refreshes, you get the same result.

You have 55 minutes computer time remaining.

[Greyblades]

http://www.opaquelucidity.com/facepalm.jpg
Frigging server's down again

[Beskar]

GH, does the computer have a web camera?

[GeneralHankerchief]

No.

[Double A]

:laugh4: nice one GH!

And whoever heard of a library computer with a webcam? :inquisitive:

[Beefy187]

Lets search for that coorporation Hayes talked about.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Bump.

[Greyblades]

Check to see if there are any forums that specialise in seeing hidden meanings in songs

[GeneralHankerchief]

You find individual threads scattered across various fora, but no forum that is singularly dedicated to that particular pursuit. Would you like to look at the threads?

[Beefy187]

Look at the threads

[Double A]

Beefy that was a bit broad, we'd need to get another card if we did that. How about using the search function instead.

Instead of looking at the threads for a year, use the search function, searching Rossetta Stone (band that wrote it, don't know it sorry) hidden meaning.

[Myrddraal]

I second searching for the company Hayes mentioned.

[Double A]

What are we, bureaucratic now?

[Chaotix]

What are we, bureaucratic now?

No, if we were bureaucratic we would delegate one person to think of orders, one person to suggest those orders, and another to actually post the orders in italics.

:clown:

[GeneralHankerchief]

You see a few lyrical interpretations of the song, but no real hidden meanings. The general consensus is that the song is a descriptor of your state during and after an acid trip when you try to remember what went on.

Forty-five minutes of computer time remaining.

[Double A]

So we got high when this happened.

That makes sense.

[Beskar]

Search google for amnesia help and support in the local area, or closest area at least where support could be gained.

[Stildawn]

bump... This is a good order.

[GeneralHankerchief]

You first Google "amnesia help Phoenix" and don't find anything. You decide to refine your search a bit, but it doesn't seem like there are any special centers that specialize in amnesia. However, you do find a "Davidson Psychological Clinic and Research Center" located right outside of town, in Glendale.

Thirty minutes remaining.

[Subotan]

Should we head over there?

Search for possibilities of public transport over to Glendale

[Captain Blackadder]

Should we head over there?

Search for possibilities of public transport over to Glendale

Maybe look up the comapny hayes talked about after public transport thne go since we have half an hour left.

[Myrddraal]

Maybe look up the comapny hayes talked about after public transport thne go since we have half an hour left.

I agree. Systech or something wasn't it?

[Double A]

Wait did we already google Krispy Kreme Phoenix AZ?

[Beefy187]

I agree. Systech or something wasn't it?

Yea thats the one.

[Subotan]

Systech is such a generic name for a company in the Quaternary industry.

[Double A]

Less crying, more nuking.

Where's the nearest ICBM?

[GeneralHankerchief]

There is the same bus system that took you from Surprise to Phoenix. A different route will take you to Glendale, but it stops in the downtown area of Phoenix, back to your west. The fare will be $3.

Twenty-five minutes remaining.

[Chaotix]

Search for any information that can be found on Systech. Glance over generic information but look specifically for any sorts of controversies, conspiracies, etc. related to Systech.

[Seon]

Choose your poison:

http://www.systech.com/

http://www.systech-tips.com/

http://www.systechusa.com/

http://go2systech.com/

soo many companies names systech :(

[Double A]

Specifically (for the above orders)

Check drudgereport.com for Systec in the last 14 days/

[Subotan]

Bump

[Captain Blackadder]

bump

[Beskar]

R.I.P Thread.

[Double A]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/rip_1.gif

[Joooray]

I won't give up on this one just yet. Surely GH is just too busy with other things at the moment. :yes:

[Double A]

bump

[Stildawn]

Bump