Large Mafia Game Daggers in the Night [Concluded] [Archive] - Page 4

Romanic

05-17-2010, 15:24

Doing that is not only beneficial for the mafias, but for protowns too.
And also for townies who can't act like one.

I am surprised. Are you saying that it's okay for a townie to lurk?

Lurkers are bad, bad, bad.

I still have a one-digit experience of mafia games, but I am already very much anti-lurker. When in doubt, I'll vote a lurker over anyone active because otherwise I'll never get a clue about the lurker. These guys won't talk unless you put pressure on them. And they won't help much finding the mafia unless they work behind the scenes.

Look at what happened: I posted the spreadsheet, split made a list of names and suddenly quiet people start talking at night and get all defensive, isn't it fantastic? :grin:

I dislike voting based on that. You should vote based on the content of a post(s).

That would work in a world where everyone write his share of posts, but it does not apply to people with a post every two days. There's no content to analyze.

I'll give you an example from this game: Peasant Phil. He posted the very minimum, one post per game day and never at night. Plus each post is conveniently a few hours before the deadline, so he has time to see the big picture. This is the first game I play with him, so I don't know if this is atypical of him, but I find it very suspicious.

How will you catch this guy early if you vote based on content? You can't.

If we always vote on content, we'll have a permanent bandwagon on The Stranger until he dies. :laugh4:

The Stranger

05-17-2010, 15:39

thats kinda what happens all the time..

TheFlax

05-17-2010, 16:03

I am surprised. Are you saying that it's okay for a townie to lurk?

Lurkers are bad, bad, bad.:

Depends on what you consider lurking. For example, some might consider us two lurking because our post count in this game is way below that of The Stranger, I don't see that as bad...

Look at what happened: I posted the spreadsheet, split made a list of names and suddenly quiet people start talking at night and get all defensive, isn't it fantastic? :grin:

Except that Split has been less present that most people on his list, granted he seems to be more active now and that's good.

Also I would like to point out the irony of being accused of first being to talkative and present, then being accused of the contrary.

Secura

05-17-2010, 16:10

Romanic

05-17-2010, 16:28

Depends on what you consider lurking. For example, some might consider us two lurking because our post count in this game is way below that of The Stranger, I don't see that as bad...

Yes, it does not work like that, otherwise a majority would be flagged as lurkers. I don't know where to draw the line, but to me anyone with 6- posts at this time is a definite lurker. They should be encouraged to speak.

Except that Split has been less present that most people on his list, granted he seems to be more active now and that's good.

Also I would like to point out the irony of being accused of first being to talkative and present, then being accused of the contrary.

Oh, but split is (or was) lurking. Maybe he felt he had to speak after looking at the spreadsheet.... :grin: I don't see you as a lurker. 14 posts in 7 phases, that's okay I guess but again, I don't know where to draw the line.

Beskar

05-17-2010, 16:34

There are Lurkers and there are Lurkers.

Lurkers are those who never ever post or active, townie or otherwise, and pretty much get branded as such, no matter the game.

Lurkers are those who do it intentionally in a game.

FÜR LAUER VERBOTEN

Splitpersonality

05-17-2010, 17:03

Oh, but split is (or was) lurking. Maybe he felt he had to speak after looking at the spreadsheet.... :grin: I don't see you as a lurker. 14 posts in 7 phases, that's okay I guess but again, I don't know where to draw the line.

Can't a guy feel bad about his (lack of a) postcount once in a while? :P

Renata

05-17-2010, 17:21

His votes tell a similar story.

Who his? Romanic's?

Splitpersonality

05-17-2010, 17:22

Who his? Romanic's?

Peasant Phil's votes I believe.

Secura

05-17-2010, 17:27

Peasant Phil's votes I believe.

That is correct, yes.

Diana Abnoba

05-17-2010, 17:35

The Stranger

05-17-2010, 18:06

why would that let mafia slip by unnoticed. when no attention is payed to the distraction, it no longer is a distraction. a distraction says as much if not more about those distracted.

atheotes

05-17-2010, 18:11

I don't like to go on only post count. I will never be in the top post counts, but I try to add some help each time I post. Some just post to get their post counts up and add nothing to the game, to me that is worse, a distraction, that lets the mafia slip by unnoticed.

true that...there was so much fluff in the first 2 phases.
As many people have said - post count alone means nothing. And discussions during the night phase are very limited during any game, more so for vanilla style games.

Peasant Phill

05-17-2010, 19:23

I'll give you an example from this game: Peasant Phil. He posted the very minimum, one post per game day and never at night. Plus each post is conveniently a few hours before the deadline, so he has time to see the big picture. This is the first game I play with him, so I don't know if this is atypical of him, but I find it very suspicious.

How will you catch this guy early if you vote based on content? You can't.

And here comes my explanation conveniently on time before a bandwagon against me is started.

Firstly, this is my usual way of playing (for those few games I play). It gets me to mid game most of the time until I'm lynched for various reasons but basically because I'm not vocal enough. I believe I've only been killed once in about 10 games. My strategy is one more born from my RL then any actual strategy behind it. I just have the time to look at the site once a day, I'm just glad if I've been able to read all the new information each time I log in.

Secondly, my conveniently timed posts can be explained by me being in the same time zone as Andres (in the same country even). When I find time to read and post it means that probably Andres also has that time. Hence I can give my input at a good time.

Thirdly, I've been giving some content in my posts. Atleast I always give a reason when I post and as far as I can tell haven't bandwagoned (well maybe you can call Seon a bandwagon but at that time it was Seon against TheStranger).

I believe there are better targets for your anti-lurker policy than me.

Nothing against Secura but her orders were ... for lack of better, words more out of self preservation than because of any other logic I can see. She did nothing wrong but also didn't help the daggers out in any way thus I see no reason to vote for her candidate.
Self-preservation how?

Renata's pretty much a better player to me; you're paying her a disrespect by tarring her with a similar brush to me.
How out of self-preservation?
The 'bond' between the female players here was partly the reason why you got elected (that and the lack of a serious contender). You reaffirmed that bond by proposing a candidate for the Naib election from that small club AND revealing that you kept them safe from night kills. Surely you can see that you'll be protected from a night kill at least once and if this chain continues even multiple times. And so you acted out of self-preservation. Quod erat demonstrandum

I'm not saying that Renata is a bad chioce for a Naib. I'm not even saying that you did a bad job as Naib. I'm only saying that, in my eyes, you did nothing extraordinary thus you have no more authority than me over who's going to be the next Naib. Nothing personal, I just want to prevent this game getting railroaded from the beginning and that getting the daggers killed in the end.

Sasaki Kojiro

05-17-2010, 20:32

Peasant phill is town.

GH's excuse is equally true whether he's mafia or not.

Andres

05-17-2010, 20:47

Night 4 - Conclusion

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Sasaki Kojiro was sitting in his hotel room, burning copies of Miyamoto Mushashi’s “The Book of Five Rings”, his favourite hobby.

While he was enjoying the heat, he heard the noise of something being thrown against his window.

He carefully stood up and with one sudden movement, opened the window. He saw nothing.

When closing the window, he noticed a package on the balcony. He walked over to the package and opened it.

It was a copy of “The Book of Five Rings”.

“WAAAAA!” Sasaki said, and he stormed back into his room. “Must burn!”

He threw the book in the fireplace and calmed down.

What strange people, these inhabitants of Granada, throwing idiotic books against peoples’ windows.

Remembering that he had left his window open, he stood up to close it, when he saw a dark cloaked figure standing on his balcony. The figure had a bokken in his hand.

Sasaki charged, but the attacker simply stepped aside, jumped into the hotelroom and closed the bulletproof unbreakable window, leaving Sasaki standing outside on the balcony.

The dark cloaked figure placed an hourglass in Sasaki’s sight and then walked further into the room.

“Hmmm, I guess we’ll fight our duel once all the sand has run to the bottom bulb.”

Sasaki waited patiently until all the sand was in the bottom bulb. At that moment, he stood up and drew his katana.

The dark cloaked figure didn’t show up.

Sasaki grew very impatient and started running circles on his balcony.

“Why does it take so long? This is rude!”

Suddenly, the figure appeared behind the window and walked towards the hourglass to turn it around again. The cloaked person disappeared.

Barely resisting the temptation to start yelling out his frustration, Sasaki sat down and watched the hourglass. He would have attempted to break his own window, but it was a special, bulletproof window, unbreakable, so he had no choice but to wait.

And again, the dark cloaked figure didn’t show up on time.

Sasaki started to hit the window with his fists in a fruitless attempt to get in the hotelroom to start the duel.

Suddenly, the dark cloaked figure appeared and turned the hourglass again.

Sasaki really went mad and started to punch and kick on the unbreakable window, screaming obscenities like "Heineken", "Amstel" and "Crystal Alken".

The dark cloaked figure appeared again and Sasaki could hear him laughing.

With a sudden movement, the assassin opened the window and Sasaki, who was still punching with all his strenght, stumbled forward and fell on his forehead.

The dark cloaked figure simply hit Sasaki with the bokken, causing a severe skull infraction. A second blow broke his neck.

Bursting out in laughter, the dark cloaked figure left the scene, but not before leaving a copy of “The Book of Five Rings” on Sasaki's body.

***

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Yaseikhaan opened his eighteenth bottle of beer. What else was there to do when you were forced to stay in your hotel room.

He stumbled around a bit and drank out the bottle. He walked to the refrigerator only to see that it was empty.

"Mmm...", 'khaan said and he started to think, which wasn't an easy task, given his condition.

"'tis an emerzenfy, so I'm allowed to get ou... ffff," 'khaan spit a few times on the floor, "to get out. Emergenzy, yes."

He walked over to the closet were he kept his equipment and dressed for the night.

The Guardia Civil would certainly have arrested him in this condition, if it weren't for a person standing in the shadows of a narrow alley.

The person stept forward, blocking 'khaans' path.

"Out of my way!" 'khaan yelled. "Zis is an emervenfy!"

The person kept silent.

"You're dead!" 'khaan yelled. "I'm a pampire vunter!"

'khaan drew his toothbrush. He looked at the object in amazement and started to laugh.

"Hahahahaha! A toothbrush! What was I'm going zo voo with a toothbrssssh," he stumbled and collapsed on the floor.

Rolling over the floor he kept laughing, staring at the toothbrush in his hand.

After a couple of minutes he came to his senses and saw that the dark figure was still watching him.

"Hmmm. Yes." 'khaan said, and he stood up.

Slowly, he drew one of his daggers and he crawled forwards towards the dark figure.

The figure stepped aside, waving with his cloak and yelled "Olé!"

'khaan looked at the figure. "You phtink you're funny, eh? Toothbrush funny, olé not funny. Poor bulls getting killed!" 'khaan said angry and he "attacked" again.

The figure made the same movement saying "Olé" again.

'khaan stared at him, a troubled expression on his face.

"Poor bulls!" he yelled and he started to cry uncontrollable, letting his dagger slip out of his hands, on the floor.

"Boohoohooo! They kill bulls! Poor bulls! Evil men! Savages! Boohoohooo! Why am I so drunk?"

The dark figure stepped forward, wielding a wooden club.

The killer quickly hit the crying vampire hunter on the head, unsheeted a sword and decapacitated the man with 6 names.

***

Day 5

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The new Naib watched how the daggers arrived in the Generalife.

When all were present, Renata stood up from her comfortable chair and immediately addressed the crowd.

"We lost two of our finest men last night. Our brother 'khaan apparently ignored the advice to stay in his hotel and got killed in a dark alley. Rumour has it that he was drunk. Mister Kojiro was killed in his hotel room, holding his favourite book in his hands."

"Let's try to find the vampire among us, shall we?"

***

Alive (29)

1. TheFlax
2. Niklas
3. Renata
4. Beskar
5. Diana Abnoba
6. Double A
7. TinCow
8. atheotes
9. The Stranger
10. GH
11. Methos
12. spL1tp3r50naL1ty
13. Romanic
14. Captain Blackadder
15. Jolt
16. Greyblades
17. YLC
18. Peasant Phill
19. Death is Yonder (replaces Joooray)
20. AVSM
21. Choxorn
22. Kukrikhan
23. White_Eyes:D
24. Beefy187
25. Secura
26. Kagemusha
27. pevergreen
28. johnhughthom
29. Scienter

Killed (8)

autolycus
Yaropolk
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ibn-Khaldun
Psychonaut
Sasaki Kojiro
Yaseikhaan

Lynched (3)
Csargo
Askthepizzaguy
Seon

WoG (0)

***

It's now day. You can start voting.

***

Announcement: Choxorn will replace slashandburn.

Beskar

05-17-2010, 20:58

Who killed my minion, Sasaki? :cry:

Was it you, Renata?

Sasaki Kojiro

05-17-2010, 20:59

YOU SONS OF ****** ARE GOING DOWN NOW

Renata

05-17-2010, 20:59

Beskar

05-17-2010, 21:03

Random Gods have decided, the culprit is:

vote: Captain Blackadder

Sasaki Kojiro

05-17-2010, 21:05

Let's start by lynching GH. His excuse is just as valid for a mafioso as it is for a townie, and the fact that he went out of his way to give it says something.

TheFlax

05-17-2010, 21:06

I suggest starting with TheFlax, though several good candidates have been mentioned in private. It's just too much of a coincidence that he mentioned Sasaki Kojiro to me as a suspect earlier today. Especially given Niklas did the same exact thing to me as mafia in Star Wars, the night he killed Beskar.

What I said was that I thought Sasaki was less present than usual and that was placed mostly as an observation. I don't follow the logic of even talking about him if I was behind his death, why would I link myself to him if I knew he was going to die. :dizzy2:

My main suspect as I told you is White_Eyes, based purely on a feeling I have. While I'm at it, Vote: White_Eyes.

Renata

05-17-2010, 21:06

@ Sasaki -- Agreed.

@ TheFlax -- The point I'm making is that, some couple of hours before Beskar turned up dead of Force Destruction in the Sith mafia, Niklas came to chat with me, and during that chat somehow contrived to make it clear that he was still suspicious of Beskar, even (IIRC) adding on a few new details to the case. He did this so that I would think he didn't know that Beskar was about to go smashing through the hull of a spaceship. But of course he did.

I asked you who your suspects were earlier; you said you thought Sasaki was a bit not-Sasaki, then went on to mention white_eyes and someone else I can't remember [Captain Blackadder] as your main suspects. Now Sasaki is dead. The same motivation that Niklas had applies to you, if you are mafia.

Methos

05-17-2010, 21:13

Odd choice to kill Sasaki so early in the game. Either someone new, or he irked Scienter.

Sasaki Kojiro

05-17-2010, 21:16

Niklas seems more likely to try that ploy than the flax though. It's not a particularly intuitive ploy so I'm not sure about it's transferability (I still don't get the point of it actually).

Odd choice to kill Sasaki so early in the game. Either someone new, or he irked Scienter.

Why would I have irked scienter?

fos: methos for this whole post

Jolt

05-17-2010, 21:22

Odd choice to kill Sasaki so early in the game. Either someone new, or he irked Scienter.

He voted for me. That is reason enough. I hope whoever votes for me suffers the same fate as Sasaki (Provided they are not lynched like ATPG)

Sasaki Kojiro

05-17-2010, 21:23

He voted for me. That is reason enough. I hope whoever votes for me suffers the same fate as Sasaki (Provided they are not lynched like ATPG)

Scum. Why aren't you voting GH? Why aren't you voting at all?

Methos

05-17-2010, 21:23

Why would I have irked scienter?

Am I mistaking who the significant other is?

The Stranger

05-17-2010, 21:24

i so so wished it was me who killed sasaki... -_-

seireikhaan

05-17-2010, 21:27

Hah, someone likes WIFOM. I'm with Sasaki, go after GH.

Sasaki Kojiro

05-17-2010, 21:32

Hah, someone likes WIFOM. I'm with Sasaki, go after GH.

GH probably figured you would go after him at some point. He's also one to notice that my activity dropped to random potshots after being killed in star wars and inishmore.

Secura

05-17-2010, 21:40

@ Sasaki -- Agreed.

I concur.

vote: General Handkerchief

Renata

05-17-2010, 21:41

Let's not have a repeat of that, Mr. Kojiro.

Sasaki Kojiro

05-17-2010, 21:46

Let's not have a repeat of that, Mr. Kojiro.

If I start to quiet down, just mention how I was found with a copy of my favorite book in my hand, and how perhaps you should start a "musashi library" in my memory.

Renata

05-17-2010, 21:51

Got it. :beam:

Also, while I won't reveal what names I chose last night, I think I can say that the result was exactly the same as Secura got each night. I'm thinking any change in that result would be significant, at this point. (Even if the kills were the same.)

GeneralHankerchief

05-17-2010, 21:52

Ahahahaha, awesome. Don't think I've ever been massively bandwagoned before. Looking forward to it. :laugh4:

Vote: TinCow

Sasaki Kojiro

05-17-2010, 21:54

Ahahahaha, awesome. Don't think I've ever been massively bandwagoned before. Looking forward to it. :laugh4:

Vote: TinCow

GH couldn't think of anything good to say. I've stared at the screen as mafia trying to think of a good post, and when you give up something like this comes out. GH is mafia.

Scienter

05-17-2010, 22:01

Am I mistaking who the significant other is?

I think so. ;)

TinCow

05-17-2010, 22:16

GH couldn't think of anything good to say. I've stared at the screen as mafia trying to think of a good post, and when you give up something like this comes out. GH is mafia.

Hmmm... GH really has had a significantly decreased activity level for a while. He's been a non-factor in the last several games I've played, so the historical basis for the excuse is valid. Has GH ever been known to lurk as a mafioso? He's always struck me as a vocal, involved scum.

Renata

05-17-2010, 22:19

TinCow

05-17-2010, 22:22

He lurked the heck out of Noblesse Oblige, though not quite in this fashion. I think the accusation is at least as much based on him feeling the need to offer an excuse for his inactivity as it is on the inactivity itself.

I don't see any out of place excuse. GH was specifically named by split as a lurker. GH then replied explaining why he was lurking. Seems like a properly placed response to me.

Jolt

05-17-2010, 22:26

Vote: GH

Because 'khaan says so.

Romanic

05-17-2010, 22:33

I'll stand with Flax and Vote: White_Eyes for now. I want to hear from him.

How do you explain that GH is laughing when bandwagon is upcoming? Is he lynch immune?

Beskar

05-17-2010, 22:38

How do you explain that GH is laughing when bandwagon is upcoming? Is he lynch immune?

GeneralHankerchief is always giggle around a bandwagon.

It is because he is guilty and trying to go "me? guilty? haha, you are so dumb!" as a bluff.

seireikhaan

05-17-2010, 22:48

C'mon, folks. He's got his bags packed. He's at the station. Now send him home.

Niklas

05-17-2010, 22:57

I am not convinced. I will vote: TinCow to make things a bit more interesting.

Choxorn

05-17-2010, 23:17

I concur, GH's last post is highly scummy.

Vote:GeneralHandkerchief

KukriKhan

05-17-2010, 23:18

I too would like to hear from Mister Eyes.

vote White_Eyes:D

pevergreen

05-17-2010, 23:26

Vote: The General

Beefy187

05-17-2010, 23:27

I am surprised. Are you saying that it's okay for a townie to lurk?

Lurkers are bad, bad, bad.

I still have a one-digit experience of mafia games, but I am already very much anti-lurker. When in doubt, I'll vote a lurker over anyone active because otherwise I'll never get a clue about the lurker. These guys won't talk unless you put pressure on them. And they won't help much finding the mafia unless they work behind the scenes.

Look at what happened: I posted the spreadsheet, split made a list of names and suddenly quiet people start talking at night and get all defensive, isn't it fantastic? :grin:

Not necessary. Its ok for townies to lurk if it doesn't stand up. Because mafia is a game where you find people doing something out of ordinary.
If the player suddenly speaks up after being pressured.... Scummy. If the player talk more then usual.... Scummy.

So its important to forge your playing style, and stick with it. Or else, you'd be expected to be lynched and lynched.

I'm all for active town, if everyone else speaks up too and its probably the best way. But thats hardly possible to achieve especially with RL and time zone difference.

Beefy187

05-17-2010, 23:28

Oh and I think GH or TinCow would be a good choice.

Vote: GH

The Stranger

05-17-2010, 23:35

then i say we slaughter the cow.

vote tincow

atheotes

05-18-2010, 00:40

GeneralHankerchief is always giggle around a bandwagon.

It is because he is guilty and trying to go "me? guilty? haha, you are so dumb!" as a bluff.

if you think he is scum, why havent you changed your vote? :inquisitive:

Vote:GeneralHankerchief

Tincow has also been quieter than usual and looks scummy - perhaps i am clouded by my opinion that he would make be a good choice as a henchman.
Beefy's posts have been quite neutral so far...

Methos

05-18-2010, 00:50

I think so. ;)

I apologize for my error.

Vote:GH

TinCow

05-18-2010, 01:13

Tincow has also been quieter than usual

I post less often in games that don't have as many roles and actions to analyze because I am less confident in my ability to pick out scum by simple posting behavior. With games like this, I prefer to observe for a bit longer before I jump into the fray. I comment only when I see something worth commenting on.

Scienter

05-18-2010, 03:03

Diana Abnoba

05-18-2010, 03:37

Vote: GH I agree, he would be a good choice, for the mafia GF, to pick, as a henchmen.

pevergreen

05-18-2010, 03:42

It's getting late and I need to vote before I go to bed. Vote:GH TinCow's post above sounds like something he would say, but he's also very good at acting normal when mafia, as I discovered during pevergreen's game. :tongue:

He seemed very scared when he gave the order to kill you.
Maybe not scared, but accepting that when you found out it would cost him...

atheotes

05-18-2010, 04:44

I post less often in games that don't have as many roles and actions to analyze because I am less confident in my ability to pick out scum by simple posting behavior. With games like this, I prefer to observe for a bit longer before I jump into the fray. I comment only when I see something worth commenting on.

I can believe that...it strikes a chord...

Splitpersonality

05-18-2010, 04:48

If it's town to GH and TC I'm almost tempted to pick TC.

The case on GH is that... I called him out on lurking and he made an excuse for it?

I know "all RL excuses are ruined forever" (ATPG), but even townies make excuses once in a while, I don't believe it damning evidence...

Then again I don't really know why TC would be guilty either.

Vote: Abstain for now, I will probably change this later.

A Very Super Market

05-18-2010, 05:59

Vote :GH

Quite scummy

GeneralHankerchief

05-18-2010, 06:35

Well, I'd rather be one extra body for the mafia to dispose of than a wasted lynch, but que sera sera. :shrug: GL town.

Secura

05-18-2010, 11:30

Vote :GH

Where have you been for the last few days?

You haven't posted since you voted for Beefy to become Naib during the first day, and it seems as though you've popped up to avoid an inevitable WOG.

Death is yonder

05-18-2010, 11:40

I don't think that GH or Tincow are scum.

The bandwagon on GH smacks a bit of paranoia aimed towards him, and Tincow gave a pretty believable defense in his favor, at the very least he does not deserve a lynching at this point.

Vote: Atheotes

Pot shot in the dark, nothing much concrete to go on at this point. I advocated for a conclusive voting, but none of the primary candidates at the moment seem to warrant a lynch.

TinCow

05-18-2010, 11:51

He voted for me. That is reason enough. I hope whoever votes for me suffers the same fate as Sasaki (Provided they are not lynched like ATPG)

Let's test this.

Vote: Jolt

Captain Blackadder

05-18-2010, 12:35

vote avsm

Didn't like the way he came back to avoid the wogging he deserves.

ULC

05-18-2010, 12:42

Vote:atheotes

Following up on previous suspicions.

naut

05-18-2010, 13:07

Sasaki Kojiro

05-18-2010, 13:25

TinCow is mafia too.

The Stranger

05-18-2010, 14:22

YOU ARE ALL MAFIA! ~:pimp::hmg:

The Stranger

05-18-2010, 14:24

TinCow is mafia too.

i agree. i think tincow should be slaughtered.

TinCow

05-18-2010, 14:36

TinCow is mafia too.

Then it's a mighty shame you started this bandwagon on GH, as it will make it harder for you to reverse it quickly enough to dispose of me.

Beefy187

05-18-2010, 15:06

YOU ARE ALL MAFIA! ~:pimp::hmg:

Yes.. There was a prank game like that. There was also Golden Rule.
But in this circumstance, that is just over paranoid.

I'm being too neutral aye? Ok...
I don't like how everyone is playing "I'm mafia and so are you"
At least one of them is mafia. Maybe all of them.

I also suspect one of the mafia being mafia vet. Thus why GH or TinCow is a good lynch.
This is because of the killing pattern so far. And Killing pattern is the one and only analysis I can do.

Renata

05-18-2010, 16:33

If AVSM and split are town, they'd have done better at this point to just let themselves be replaced.

Renata

05-18-2010, 16:46

Votes are in reverse order.

atheotes (2): YLC, DiY
avsm (1): CB
Jolt (1): TinCow
GH (10): AVSM, Diana, Scienter, Methos, atheotes, Beefy, pever, choxorn, jolt, secura
TinCow (3): TS, Niklas, GH
white_eyes (3): Kukri, romanic, Flax
CB (1): beskar

abstain: split

Not voting: everyone else

Splitpersonality

05-18-2010, 18:09

If AVSM and split are town, they'd have done better at this point to just let themselves be replaced.

So I actually start talking again, and trying to follow/contribute to what's up, and you think I should be replaced anyway?

Renata

05-18-2010, 18:13

No, I'm glad you're contributing and want you to keep it up. Just that showing up when on the verge of WOG isn't exactly reassuring.

Jolt

05-18-2010, 18:18

Let's test this.

Vote: Jolt

See ya.

Sasaki Kojiro

05-18-2010, 20:14

Then it's a mighty shame you started this bandwagon on GH, as it will make it harder for you to reverse it quickly enough to dispose of me.

That's not what "too" means.

TinCow

05-18-2010, 20:31

That's not what "too" means.

Sorry, I'm confused then. Am I GH's mafo-partner, or Scienter's?

GeneralHankerchief

05-18-2010, 20:36

And I'm off to join the numberless amount of victims that Sasaki has racked up over the years in the name of the greater good. Hope this round will have been some value in the endgame, though I doubt it.

The Stranger

05-18-2010, 20:42

i feel you GH! if it is any consolation, i believe in your 'nocence!

Andres

05-18-2010, 21:00

Voting concluded. Write-up to follow.

GeneralHankerchief

05-18-2010, 21:02

Goodbye for now (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/entry.php?51-Participation-Announcement). :bow:

Peasant Phill

05-18-2010, 21:25

To late to vote. Oh well I wouldn't have made a difference, besides I had no idea who to vote for.

Andres

05-18-2010, 21:34

Day 4 - Conclusion

https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Daggers%20in%20the%20Night/P9150330.jpg

There wasn't much discussion that day, since the brotherhood quickly decided that GeneralHankerchief had to be the murdering vampire.

The new Naib Renata looked at the condemned General.

"Do you have anything to say in your defence?"

"Nope," GeneralHankerchief said.

"Absolutely nothing?"

GeneralHankerchief looked back at the Naib, a melancholic look in his eyes.

Silently, he muttered: "I wish I had done better. Maybe I've been going on hunting vampires for too long."

"A burn-out, as they call it?" Renata said, a mysterious smile on her face.

"Yeah, sort of," GH replied.

"What a coincidence!" Renata exclaimed. "What a fitting lynching method I have in mind for you, then."

With a wide gesture, Renata revealed a pile of wood with a stake on top of it.

"I was getting a bit bored of the decapacitating and wooden stakes, so why not trying another traditional method! Burning you at the stake! I'm sure you can appreciate the irony," Renata said, enthusiastically nodding at the General.

"Well, ehm, I was hoping for something less painful."

"Oh now," Renata replied, a bit disappointed. "Certainly you, being burned-out, can appreciate this, can't you? Don't worry, we'll pour enough gasoline on you so that you will burn, in spite of your burned-outness!"

Renata giggled, but soon stopped when she noticed GH didn't appreciate the awful joke.

"Ehm, ok," Renata said and then she ordered four daggers to tie GH up and to pour gasoline on him.

The General was standing on the pile of wood, staring in the distance with a melancholic look in his eyes and a sad smile on his face, as if he already had said goodbye to this place. Calmly, he looked down at the brotherhood. "Don't worry, one day all will be well again. Maybe it's for the best that I'm leaving you now."

Some daggers wept a tear away when looking at their beloved GeneralHankerchief, standing so bravely on the pile of woods in his last moments.

"Come on now! Let's not ruin the spectacle by being sad! This is going to be fun!" Renata yelled and she threw a burning torch in the Generals' direction, setting the pile on fire.

GeneralHankerchief just kept smiling rather sadly as he silently got engulfed by the flames. Only at the last moments, the brave man lost his selfcontrol and started to scream while the flames were eating him alive.

Soon, it was silent again, and only ashes were left.

Renata clapped her hands.

"Now that we're all warmed-up, we can go to bed. See you all tomorrow!"

***

Tally

GeneralHankerchief : 10 (pevergreen, Secura, Scienter, Beefy187, Choxorn, AVSM, Jolt, Diana, Methos, atheotes) :skull:

TinCow: 3 (Niklas, The Stranger, GeneralHankerchief)
White_Eyes:D: 3 (TheFlax, Kukri, Romanic)
atheotes: 2 (YLC, DiY)
Captain Blackadder: 1 (Beskar)
Jolt: 1 (TinCow)
AVSM: 1 (Captain Blackadder)

abstain: 1 (splitpersonality)
not voting: 7 (White_Eyes:D, Kagemusha, johnhughthom, Peasant Phill, GreyBlades, Renata (Naib), Double A)

***

Alive (28)

1. TheFlax
2. Niklas
3. Renata
4. Beskar
5. Diana Abnoba
6. Double A
7. TinCow
8. atheotes
9. The Stranger
10. Methos
11. spL1tp3r50naL1ty
12. Romanic
13. Captain Blackadder
14. Jolt
15. Greyblades
16. YLC
17. Peasant Phill
18. Death is Yonder
19. AVSM
20. Choxorn
21. Kukrikhan
22. White_Eyes:D
23. Beefy187
24. Secura
25. Kagemusha
26. pevergreen
27. johnhughthom
28. Scienter

Killed (8)

autolycus
Yaropolk
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ibn-Khaldun
Psychonaut
Sasaki Kojiro
Yaseikhaan

Lynched (4)

Csargo
Askthepizzaguy
Seon
GeneralHankerchief

WoG (0)

***

It is now night. PM's please. Night will last for +/- 23 hours.

:bow:

GeneralHankerchief

05-18-2010, 21:39

Epic. Thank you, Andres. :bow:

Askthepizzaguy

05-18-2010, 21:39

I am increasingly disappointed with Kagemusha's contributions as a townie beyond pure entertainment. Kagemusha must die.

Diamondeye

05-18-2010, 22:10

:laugh4:
I will never see Renata in the same light again.

Double A

05-18-2010, 22:22

Don't try to make sense of Seon's posts. Most of the time he just acts crazy for the hell of it.

We... we can do that?

YOU ARE ALL MAFIA! ~:pimp::hmg:

Must... resist... WIFOM...

Yes.. There was a prank game like that. There was also Golden Rule.
But in this circumstance, that is just over paranoid.

Prank game and what?

ULC

05-18-2010, 22:26

Wow Renata, if that's really you then we need to team up as mafia some time! Fit's my style and all :bow:

Splitpersonality

05-18-2010, 22:45

I think I love Renata lmao

Renata

05-18-2010, 22:46

It wasn't me. :( Got distracted by real life this afternoon and failed my duties.

But I already have some thoughts for tomorrow. Mwahahahah.

Jolt

05-18-2010, 23:05

I am increasingly disappointed with Kagemusha's contributions as a townie beyond pure entertainment. Kagemusha must die.

First thing's first.

TinCow goes first, then if teh Mafia still have enough men to kill someone else, they can kill your desired person.

Askthepizzaguy

05-18-2010, 23:57

First thing's first.

TinCow goes first, then if teh Mafia still have enough men to kill someone else, they can kill your desired person.

I don't desire Kagemusha. I mean, I know he has rippling abs, broad shoulders, and an accent that sends shivers up my spine, but...

Errr sorry, lost my train of thought.

Diana Abnoba

05-18-2010, 23:57

Write up was sick. I hope it didn't hurt too bad GH.

Diana Abnoba

05-18-2010, 23:58

He does, hmmmm oh what was I saying. Can't remember.

Kagemusha

05-19-2010, 04:55

Aaand Good Morning from Saharan news! Yet another minor delay in our broadcast has happened, as our star reporter Kage Al Musha took sick leave on the grounds that dead people are harrassing him. Well you can believe this or not, but us who know him better are more likely to suggest that Kage had just one of his drinking spree´s yet again.

So during last couple days we have had more murder,more elections and more public exexutions, normal business in our peace loving community. Last night, Sasaki Kojiro made a suicide by burning himself to death. Our experts suggest that the reason for his protest was that the Book of five rings from Miyamoto Musashi had gone out of print.

Another gruesome death took place as Yaseikhaan, the close runner becoming Naib in last elections was found dead. It was most likely that in his drunken rage after loosing the elections, Khaan clubbed himself to death. There are though some silent whispers talking about "political murder", but such heretic statements towards our always so lovely Naib, Renata may have quick and scorching effects.

Today at the end of the day. GeneralHankerchief veteran of our community, was roasted alive as the show stopper for celebration ceremonies for our new Naib. Some of our audience commented about our New Naib and the wonderfull party she gave to us last evening. GH´s comments were: "Epic. Thank you!"

Diamondeye commented as the flames scorching GH´s corps were whithering down: "I will never see Renata in the same light again. " YLC put it like this: "Wow Renata".

spL1tp3r50naL1ty, went as far as saying: "I think I love Renata"

So all in all nice evening and a nice party! As everyone should remember. Our competition is still open. Who´s Next is asking you people.Who´s next?

This was all from Saharan news. We will return once we return. Good morning and Good Bless!

Andres

05-19-2010, 21:02

Night 5 - Conclusion

https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Daggers%20in%20the%20Night/Sacromontenight.jpg

Allthough it might seem odd given the situation of the Brotherhood of the Silver Daggers, Peasant Phill was a happy man.

He came to Granada, because he couldn't ignore the urgent call, but if it would have been up to him and him alone, he would have stayed home.

Indeed, it was an excellent summer and he had been enjoying watching the wheat on his farm grow to unseen heights. But it wasn't just the growing wheat that made him happy. No, the main reason for his happines was his engagement. Yes, Peasant Phill was going to marry the most beautiful, intelligent and funny woman on this planet! He sighed and smiled, a dreamy look on his face; surely, he was the happiest man in the world. Hoping that this vampire would be caught soon, he picked up the phone to call his fiancé, like he did every single day.

While he was dialing the number, he didn't see the cloaked figure sneaking up on him.

Phill was patiently waiting for his soon to be wife to pick up the phone, when the wooden club hit him hard on the back of his head.

Dizzy, at the verge of unconsciousness, our unfortunate young man tried to find his silver daggers when the sword already struck, seperating his head from his body.

The killer looked at the body of Phill, when suddenly, he heard a voice...

"Hello! Hello? Is that you, Phill? Please answer me! This is not funny, Phill, you know I'm always so worried, please, say something."

The attacker picked up the horn and put it back on the hook, showing no emotion at the tragedy that had just happened.

Silently, the murderer left the scene.

***

https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Daggers%20in%20the%20Night/Alhambramoon.jpg

Death is yonder was sitting in his hotel room, feverishly looking for his books when he suddenly realised he didn't have to study anymore! He laughed at his sillyness; months of exams and studying hadn't done him much good. It was over and he passed, no need to worry about that anymore!

He relaxed a bit and opened the refrigerator. He picked the bottle of whisky and poured a rather generous portion into his glass. He put the bottle back in the fridge and then lifted the glass at himself, in the mirror. He emptied the glass rather quickly and put it down again. He looked up and saw a dark person in the mirror, standing behind him.

He turned around fast, aiming his fist for the intruders' stomache, but he missed.

DiY looked around, but saw nobody.

"This is not possibl..."

Before he could finish his sentence, a knife slit his throat. The killer stepped forward and put the knife through DiY's right eyeball, right into his brains. Finally, the attacker kicked him on his head a few times with his steel toe boots, until DiY's face was reduced to a bloody pulp.

The attacker calmly left the room, but not without taking the excellent bottle of scotch.

***

Day 6

https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Daggers%20in%20the%20Night/P9150305.jpg

Renata was waiting impatiently for the daggers to arrive.

This lack of professionalism irritated her. An hour too late!

Staring at the last one to arrive, Renata started her report.

"We lost two more men last night. Our dear friend Peasant Phill, who was having an excellent year at his farm and was about to marry, has been cruelly taken away from us. Death is yonder, who never got to read the letter from his university stating that he didn't just pass his exams, but passed magna cum laude, was also killed.

Our enemy is heartless and clearly doesn't hesitate to kill young, promising men who still have their entire life before them.

I suggest we talk alot more than the previous days, and much more intensively. We NEED to find this foul creature before it kills the last one of us."

That said, Renata sat down and the daggers began the day.

***

Alive (26)

1. TheFlax
2. Niklas
3. Renata
4. Beskar
5. Diana Abnoba
6. Double A
7. TinCow
8. atheotes
9. The Stranger
10. Methos
11. spL1tp3r50naL1ty
12. Romanic
13. Captain Blackadder
14. Jolt
15. Greyblades
16. YLC
17. AVSM
18. Choxorn
19. Kukrikhan
20. White_Eyes:D
21. Beefy187
22. Secura
23. Kagemusha
24. pevergreen
25. johnhughthom
26. Scienter

Killed (10)

autolycus
Yaropolk
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ibn-Khaldun
Psychonaut
Sasaki Kojiro
Yaseikhaan
Peasant Phill
Death is yonder

Lynched (4)

Csargo
Askthepizzaguy
Seon
GeneralHankerchief

WoG (0)

***

It is day. You can vote now. Day will last for +/- 24 hours.

:bow:

Renata

05-19-2010, 21:53

Inconclusive/not attacked.

Can I suggest a little more pressure on atheotes today. And I think Kagemusha's storytelling has reached its limit of preservation.

Sasaki Kojiro

05-19-2010, 21:58

I was thinking Romanic was scum, don't remember why though.

Peasant Phill

05-19-2010, 22:06

Remember remember the 19th of mai...tember. Crap, it doesn't rhyme. Oh well and here I thought I would last a little while longer.

Thanks for the nice death Andres, the fiancé was a nice touch

The Stranger

05-19-2010, 22:10

kagemusha must die!

vote:kage!

Renata

05-19-2010, 22:16

I was thinking Romanic was scum, don't remember why though.

There was a suspicious post somewhere yesterday, and not the most illuminating voting pattern, IIRC. He'd also be good for pressure.

atheotes

05-19-2010, 22:34

I think Peasant Phill paid the price for the very insightful post he made yesterday. It was a very good point that he made. Perhaps he hit too close to comfort :juggle:

Greyblades

05-19-2010, 22:44

I'd like to apologise for being inactive last turn, I was kinda panicking over finding out my A levels are just a week away. Just so you guys know that my attendance may become sporadic.

TinCow

05-19-2010, 23:16

I currently have no leads of my own, so I shall humor those of others.

Vote: Romanic

Jolt

05-19-2010, 23:37

I'm extremely disapointed at the Mafia. They are forcing me to take matters into my own hands.

Vote: TinCow

ULC

05-19-2010, 23:43

Vote:Kage

This is on a bet.

Beefy187

05-19-2010, 23:43

Vote: Romanic

I'm lost in who to vote. So I'll just pressure vote for now.

Diana Abnoba

05-20-2010, 00:17

Vote: White_eyes for now, not talking as much as he usually does when he is townie. He would be a good choice for a picked mafia partner as well.

Beskar

05-20-2010, 00:19

The Random Gods have decided again that vote: The Stranger is the man we should go after.

Romanic

05-20-2010, 00:30

There was a suspicious post somewhere yesterday, and not the most illuminating voting pattern, IIRC. He'd also be good for pressure.

My last post in the thread was 2 days ago and it was a pressure vote against White Eyes, who turned out useless because of the bandwagon on GH. Why the suspicion?

I'll add that White Eyes has not replied since TheFlax and I put pressure on him. Also suspicious is AVSM who showed up after 4 days of inactivity to evage a WOG (and joined the bandwagon on GH).

Even more suspicious is Tincow. Look at posts #795 & #797: He's defending GH after he was GH voted him, to make it look like he's a good guy . Niklas made me realize that when we chatted, so all the credit goes to him. vote: Tincow

TinCow

05-20-2010, 00:46

Even more suspicious is Tincow. Look at posts #795 & #797: He's defending GH after he was GH voted him, to make it look like he's a good guy . Niklas made me realize that when we chatted, so all the credit goes to him. vote: Tincow

So, basically, I'm scum because I didn't OMGUS?

Romanic

05-20-2010, 00:50

So, basically, I'm scum because I didn't OMGUS?

Because you are trying hard to look innocent, defending someone who just accused you.

Sasaki Kojiro

05-20-2010, 00:53

Romanic is voting to save himself.

Romanic

05-20-2010, 00:55

Blah Sasaki. Niklas can confirm we already talked about that.

TinCow

05-20-2010, 01:03

Because you are trying hard to look innocent, defending someone who just accused you.

GH was being bandwagoned and I thought he was innocent so I defended him. That's what I do when I think the person we're going to lynch is a bad lynch.

ULC

05-20-2010, 01:07

Can we get some votes on Kage please?

Sasaki Kojiro

05-20-2010, 01:12

Blah Sasaki. Niklas can confirm we already talked about that.

Henchman revealed.

:laugh4:

Askthepizzaguy

05-20-2010, 01:31

Kagemusha has control of the senate and the newspapers. He's too dangerous to be left alive.

Splitpersonality

05-20-2010, 02:03

Kagemusha has control of the senate and the newspapers. He's too dangerous to be left alive.

That's not the dagger way, he must live!

I need him!

To entertain me!

ULC

05-20-2010, 02:08

That's not the dagger way, he must live!

I need him!

To entertain me!

Kage can amuse you when he is dead. Not sure how that'll work out, but due to the climate, he'll last long enough for you to figure it out.

Renata

05-20-2010, 02:19

My last post in the thread was 2 days ago and it was a pressure vote against White Eyes, who turned out useless because of the bandwagon on GH. Why the suspicion?

I'll add that White Eyes has not replied since TheFlax and I put pressure on him. Also suspicious is AVSM who showed up after 4 days of inactivity to evage a WOG (and joined the bandwagon on GH).

Even more suspicious is Tincow. Look at posts #795 & #797: He's defending GH after he was GH voted him, to make it look like he's a good guy . Niklas made me realize that when we chatted, so all the credit goes to him. vote: Tincow

Niklas did that, did he? But he hasn't made the case himself. Why not, Niklas? It's not a bad point to add to the accusations against TinCow -- why set up Romanic to make it for you?

(I'll clarify what I was talking about with regards to you first thing tomorrow, Romanic; it's just too late tonight for me to go finding posts.)

pevergreen

05-20-2010, 02:49

Vote: Beefy

Crikey.

Choxorn

05-20-2010, 03:10

The Random Gods have decided again that vote: The Stranger is the man we should go after.

I can't argue with the random gods, and I agree that he's getting irritating. Vote: The Stranger.

Romanic

05-20-2010, 03:18

Niklas did that, did he? But he hasn't made the case himself. Why not, Niklas? It's not a bad point to add to the accusations against TinCow -- why set up Romanic to make it for you?

(I'll clarify what I was talking about with regards to you first thing tomorrow, Romanic; it's just too late tonight for me to go finding posts.)

Niklas did not set me up. I asked him 2 days ago why he voted for Tincow instead of GH or WhiteEyes and he explained. Voting for Tincow today was my own choice.

Beefy187

05-20-2010, 05:34

Vote: Beefy

Crikey.

But, I'm too weak! Don't kill me!

Double A

05-20-2010, 05:49

Wait, why is Kage a good lynch option? I understand why Romanic is scummy, but not Kage...

That's not the dagger way, he must live!

I need him!

To entertain me!

Portal is free on Steam now

Sasaki Kojiro

05-20-2010, 05:53

Kage doesn't stand above anyone else as scummy.

Double A

05-20-2010, 06:00

Sooooo... why are people voting for him?

Sasaki Kojiro

05-20-2010, 06:21

They are scumbuddies with Romanic.

Double A

05-20-2010, 06:58

Right.

I think I have a lot of catching up to this weekend...

Diamondeye

05-20-2010, 07:23

Kage can amuse you when he is dead. Not sure how that'll work out, but due to the climate, he'll last long enough for you to figure it out.

Pllease... My eyes...
THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!

The Stranger

05-20-2010, 08:13

I can't argue with the random gods, and I agree that he's getting irritating. Vote: The Stranger.

i am getting irritating? omg... you are like 10.000 lightyears behind.

in the face of potential mafioso lynching this turn, to go for someone like me... is kinda scummy. why do you want the town to waste a lynch on me? but by all means go ahead.

any how... wasnt beskar on the scummy list?

Diana Abnoba

05-20-2010, 09:08

Well thanks a lot Beskar and Choxorn, you put me in a very strange place, having to agree with The Stranger. :laugh4: Come on Beskar, random gods at this stage of the game, you can get away with that 1st phase and maybe the 2nd, but it is now phase 6, and you are a better player than that. Big FOS on the both of you.

The Stranger

05-20-2010, 09:11

UNVOTE: VOTE: BESKAR

ye. i made up my mind.

Death is yonder

05-20-2010, 09:46

I think Peasant Phill paid the price for the very insightful post he made yesterday. It was a very good point that he made. Perhaps he hit too close to comfort :juggle:

Perhaps Death is Yonder was too insightful too eh? :clown:

Death is yonder was sitting in his hotel room, feverishly looking for his books when he suddenly realised he didn't have to study anymore! He laughed at his sillyness; months of exams and studying hadn't done him much good. It was over and he passed, no need to worry about that anymore!

Thank you Andres, since my results are coming back to me tomorrow, I appreciate this write up very much :laugh4:

Time to hide under my bed tonight :creep:

And mafia, that wasn't very nice of you :stare: I only just came back :cry:

Secura

05-20-2010, 11:21

Crikey.

Is that permitted? T'is a profanity in the UK, in the very least.

Kage doesn't stand above anyone else as scummy.

I believe otherwise, really, and will back YLC up on that; there's some evidence to suggest it could be Kagemusha, it's not a complete stab in the dark.

vote: Kagemusha.

Big FOS on the both of you.

Does Beskar's behaviour not strike you as somewhat deliberate, though? His votes so far:

D1 - GeneralHankerchief (Naib)
D2 - Niklas
D3 - Beskar
D4 - TheStranger, Death is Yonder (Naib)
D5 - Captain Blackadder
D6 - TheStranger

He hasn't cast a single definitive vote since the game began, always posting a result from "the random gods" and rarely engaging in any serious discussion... it's too blatantly obvious to be scummy behaviour, considering how good a player he is, so consider other reasons why he may be following such a pattern.

Captain Blackadder

05-20-2010, 11:27

Vote Beskar

Random vote on day 5 no way is that a good townie move.

The Stranger

05-20-2010, 11:34

beskar didnt have to be decisive untill now, because his mafia friends havent been threathened yet. Sofar only innocent townies have been on the spot for a lynch. Now on this day, when it seems quite likely that a mafia might be effectively pressured he comes up with a random god vote on my own person, for the 3rd time this game, which is odd in itself, but also a distraction, so that the town might waste a lynch on me. and since im always a possible candidate for lynch, whatever it is that i do or what role i have, i he might have thought it to work. but it will not.

kill him.

Secura

05-20-2010, 11:42

The point in Beskar's votes is that he doesn't contribute towards any lynches or elections; he's avoiding them all.

It's so transparantly obvious.

The Stranger

05-20-2010, 11:59

so he isnt helping the town. and why are you defending him? is your name beskar?

Secura

05-20-2010, 12:04

so he isnt helping the town. and why are you defending him? is your name beskar?

For a similar reason to the one with which Pizza defended you, TS; all these statements that Beskar's made about being scum with Sasaki and Pizza, all these random votes...

It's just too blatant, like your own behaviour; at this stage, I don't think he's guilty.

TinCow

05-20-2010, 12:14

so he isnt helping the town

You're not exactly the Hero of Townsville either. Pot, kettle, etc.

The Stranger

05-20-2010, 12:21

i am not convinced. but if you can come up with either a better candidate or beskar comes in with a good defence, i will change my vote.

Beefy187

05-20-2010, 12:49

For a similar reason to the one with which Pizza defended you, TS; all these statements that Beskar's made about being scum with Sasaki and Pizza, all these random votes...

It's just too blatant, like your own behaviour; at this stage, I don't think he's guilty.

Beskar is one of my top suspect. If he is to survive few more rounds, I would be voting for him.

pevergreen

05-20-2010, 13:22

Beskar is one of my top suspect. If he is to survive few more rounds, I would be voting for him.

HURR.

You're scum.

Jolt

05-20-2010, 13:31

Beskar is one of my top suspect. If he is to survive few more rounds, I would be voting for him.

Err.

Unvote; Vote: Beefy187

Askthepizzaguy

05-20-2010, 14:09

You're more aggressive than usual, Beefster. Why?

Normally you lodge a vote, but you don't say that a certain person needs to die.

Renata

05-20-2010, 14:09

Romanic, this (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?126833-Daggers-in-the-Night-In-Play&p=2490564&viewfull=1#post2490564) is one of the single scummiest posts I've seen the entire game:

I'll stand with Flax and Vote: White_Eyes for now. I want to hear from him.

How do you explain that GH is laughing when bandwagon is upcoming? Is he lynch immune?

The speculation about being lynch immune was out of place. It's not needed to suggest that his reaction to the incipient bandwagon was suspicious (although I reacted in nearly the same way myself and only Sasaki ever questioned it), and it serves only to push the bandwagon along by suggesting that GH might be a godfather.

AND YET YOU DID NOT VOTE FOR HIM. This is classic mafia behavior: subtly nudge along a bandwagon with an offhand comment, a FOS, or the like, yet vote for someone else so you can keep your own hands clean when the player turns up innocent. I swear I get about a 50% ROI on calling out this sort of thing.

There's also the focus on lurkers. It's not a given, but mafia, especially inexperienced mafia, often gravitate toward lurkers as an easy target -- because it can be SO hard to come up with a fake accusation sometimes. Lurkers are easy -- you get to vote based more on policy than on actual scummy behavior. So far you've voted slash, you've voted white_eyes (not sure who else), and you've devoted a considerable fraction of your posts to discussing post counts, encouraging lurkers to speak, and pondering whether players like Flax and split actually are lurkers. It's the sort of thing that looks superficially like productive towniness, but is not.

Finally, "it's OK when I do it but not when you do it" -- after a discussion with Niklas you voted TinCow based on TinCow's defense of another player (now known to be a townie). You argued TinCow might have done it so as to look good. Yet you've just done essentially the same thing yourself, by pre-emptively defending Niklas against my questioning. The only difference is that TinCow was defending someone who'd accused him, while you are defending someone someone else had (sort of) accused, but the potential motivations are not substantially different. Why not let Niklas answer for himself?

-- you're both mafia, and the questioning made you nervous
-- he's a townie, but you're not, and you wanted to maintain what you think is his good opinion of you (or townies' in general good opinion of you, once Niklas dies and you're proven right to have defended him)
-- you're both townies (or only he is mafia), and you're just too nervous from the questioning to react with deliberation.

Edit: Lost my last sentence, which was something like: Anyway, that's the argument against you as I see it.

The Stranger

05-20-2010, 14:24

-- you're both mafia, and the questioning made you nervous
-- he's a townie, but you're not, and you wanted to maintain what you think is his good opinion of you (or townies' in general good opinion of you, once Niklas dies and you're proven right to have defended him)
-- you're both townies (or only he is mafia), and you're just too nervous from the questioning to react with deliberation.

so basically, he can be anything, since you have excluded no possibility... omg great reasoning here haha

TinCow

05-20-2010, 14:26

so basically, he can be anything, since you have excluded no possibility... omg great reasoning here haha

and you also havent voted for him...

She's the Naib, she can't vote. :stare:

The Stranger

05-20-2010, 14:29

oh yeah forgot about that. doesnt really change anything, since that was not my main argument :P

Secura

05-20-2010, 14:29

omg great reasoning here haha

It's a long stretch more than you've mustered, treacle.

Renata's accusations would correlate with things that Pizza has said regarding the mafia; it's likely an inexperienced/new player mixed with a well-known/shrewd player or two.

Kagemusha

05-20-2010, 14:29

Allright!Good day from Saharan news! Today we have a close situation as many candidates are clinging in the lead to win the next lynch vote. Here is the current tally:

Romanic 2, (Tincow, Beefy187
Tincow 1, (Romanic
Kagemusha 2, (YLC, Secura
White_eyes 1, (Diana Abnoba
The Stranger 2, (Beskar, Choxorn
Beefy 187 2, (pevergreen, Jolt
Beskar 2, (The Stranger, Captain Blackadder

So we have a 5 way tie and oour own Kage al Musha is also having a strong race to win the elections. Kage was able to comment some of the replies given to our news from his solid supporters. First Renata our lovely Naib had commented: "think Kagemusha's storytelling has reached its limit of preservation. " Kage commented to this. It made me teary in the eye, but i cant help but to believe that either our Naib doesnt like our news, or more probably she just hates freedom! Also YLC cast his support to our star reporter with comment: "This is on a bet. " This statement we found very disturbing as YLC did not join our great game Who´s next last night, while apparently made a bet to get Kage lynched.Our question to YLC is: If your bet is at something why dont cash all the prizes? Last our previous Naib gave her support to Kage with this solid reasoning: "It's so transparantly obvious. ". All in all Kage was positive about his changes of getting lynched today. We will continue monitoring the very interesting situation as it unfolds.

This was all from Saharan news. for now. Good day and good bless!

Askthepizzaguy

05-20-2010, 14:30

She's the Naib, she can't vote. :stare:

omg great reasoning there, right TS? :tongue2:

Meh. I remembered something about Beefy, and I'd rather support either Kage or Romanic today for the lynch.

Jolt

05-20-2010, 14:36

Kagemusha, the only mention I had in the news was Choxorn's saying I was Mafia. If the news remain this one-sided in not mentioning my greatness and only referring to the calumny other players heap upon me, I shall have to lynch it's anchorman.

Beefy187

05-20-2010, 14:39

You're more aggressive than usual, Beefster. Why?

Normally you lodge a vote, but you don't say that a certain person needs to die.

well sometimes, I want to take risks and initiatives.
If I Beskar isn't one of them then... Back to bandwagoning and useless posts :clown:

Askthepizzaguy

05-20-2010, 14:45

I know exactly what Beskar is doing. He's pretending he's some cult leader of a random religion, a total rip-off of one of YLC's games, the idea for which I believe I actually came up with and YLC tweaked it.

He even sent me a ridiculously fake looking "You've been recruited by the RANDOM RELIGION ooooooo spooky" message at one point. Then, he's posting as if all his votes are random and they clearly aren't, they are just his opinion. It's neither funny nor original nor convincing, and I've not commented on it. I do know that it will probably get him killed, because townies like to lynch things that make no sense.

TinCow

05-20-2010, 14:48

KukriKhan

05-20-2010, 14:49

Askthepizzaguy

05-20-2010, 14:58

Beskar is claiming he's the special role?

He's special all right, but his claim is laughable.

The Stranger

05-20-2010, 15:00

omg great reasoning there, right TS? :tongue2:

Meh. I remembered something about Beefy, and I'd rather support either Kage or Romanic today for the lynch.

no because i wasnt reasoning there.

TheFlax

05-20-2010, 15:01

so basically, he can be anything, since you have excluded no possibility... omg great reasoning here haha

Why not add something constructive or make an insightful comment instead of reciting the same old platitudes each round? I am very well passed the point of caring if the down decides to waste a lynch on you.

Concerning Kagemusha, I'm torn. I understand he hasn't contributed much, but this news thing of his puts him in the spotlight, since his posts are at least somewhat memorable, compared to some of the people who vote/small comment and dash. In the end, I think he's a townie who decided to have some fun. Though I wouldn't stake my life on it.

Big chunky delicious post about Romanic.

I think Romanic should come and answer to this. Vote: Romanic

The Stranger

05-20-2010, 15:02

It's a long stretch more than you've mustered, treacle.

Renata's accusations would correlate with things that Pizza has said regarding the mafia; it's likely an inexperienced/new player mixed with a well-known/shrewd player or two.

another invalid reason. just because i made invalid reasoning (i dont say that i did) or even no reasoning at all, does that mean that she or you should do the same? should i kill some one because some one else did it, or didnt do it good enough?

she was stating the obvious in a way as if it actually added some new information, but it didnt, and if that doesnt strike you as either odd or funny... than you are just unwilling to see.

Renata

05-20-2010, 15:04

so basically, he can be anything, since you have excluded no possibility... omg great reasoning here haha

I am a great logician, it's true.

The Stranger

05-20-2010, 15:05

I am a great logician, it's true.

it was logically perfectly coherent... but not very insightful.

TinCow

05-20-2010, 15:12

it was logically perfectly coherent... but not very insightful.

The fact that she admitted that it's possible that both Romanic and Niklas are townies does not make her post uninsightful. It just makes her objective, which is a very strong point in her favor. Her points are all still valid.

The Stranger

05-20-2010, 15:16

The fact that she admitted that it's possible that both Romanic and Niklas are townies does not make her post uninsightful. It just makes her objective, which is a very strong point in her favor. Her points are all still valid.

if that is all that is needed to be regarded as objective it is a very easy achievement because all that is needed is a post as this.

tincow is a) mafia b) townie or c) none of the previous.

i didnt say her points were unvalid, because it is OBVIOUS that they are either both mafia, or both townie, or one of them is townie and the other mafia... omg

but whatever... all pile the NAIB!!! give her a big hug, because she's had such a hard time...

TinCow

05-20-2010, 15:18

if that is all that is needed to be regarded as objective it is a very easy achievement because all that is needed is a post as this.

tincow is a) mafia b) townie or c) none of the previous.

i didnt say her points were unvalid, because it is OBVIOUS that they are either both mafia, or both townie, or one of them is townie and the other mafia... omg

but whatever... all pile the NAIB!!! give her a big hug, because she's had such a hard time...

Why are you focusing exclusively on her conclusions, and ignoring the actual arguments she presented? You're cherry-picking to discredit her.

The Stranger

05-20-2010, 15:28

Why are you focusing exclusively on her conclusions, and ignoring the actual arguments she presented? You're cherry-picking to discredit her.

no actually not, i was having a laugh about a total obvious statement and then some people decided to jump on me for attacking poor Renata... im simply defending myself.

TheFlax

05-20-2010, 15:33

Our esteemed Naib makes some excellent points. But what sticks in my craw is that despite WOG warnings in-thread by the host, 2 players continue to lurk and not get WOG'd, making me more than suspicious. It may be my inexperience, as Renata suggests, but I feel compelled to go with my gut and

vote: slashandburn

Yeah, erm, about that. Looking back to the latest "Alive List", slashandburn is not even in there. I'm pretty sure he was replaced by someone.

Alive (26)

1. TheFlax
2. Niklas
3. Renata
4. Beskar
5. Diana Abnoba
6. Double A
7. TinCow
8. atheotes
9. The Stranger
10. Methos
11. spL1tp3r50naL1ty
12. Romanic
13. Captain Blackadder
14. Jolt
15. Greyblades
16. YLC
17. AVSM
18. Choxorn
19. Kukrikhan
20. White_Eyes:D
21. Beefy187
22. Secura
23. Kagemusha
24. pevergreen
25. johnhughthom
26. Scienter

Secura

05-20-2010, 15:33

it is OBVIOUS that they are either both mafia, or both townie, or one of them is townie and the other mafia... omg

One of them could be the special role... :laugh4:

Secura

05-20-2010, 15:35

I'm pretty sure he was replaced by someone.

Choxorn replaced s&b on Day Five. :3

The Stranger

05-20-2010, 15:36

One of them could be the special role... :laugh4:

got me. now i hang... i die... i admit defeat...

Romanic

05-20-2010, 15:51

I had a chat with Renata about this, but I guess I'll reply in the thread now that TheFlax added a new vote for me.

Romanic, this (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?126833-Daggers-in-the-Night-In-Play&p=2490564&viewfull=1#post2490564) is one of the single scummiest posts I've seen the entire game:

The speculation about being lynch immune was out of place. It's not needed to suggest that his reaction to the incipient bandwagon was suspicious (although I reacted in nearly the same way myself and only Sasaki ever questioned it), and it serves only to push the bandwagon along by suggesting that GH might be a godfather.

I don't believe that my speculation was suspicious. I was wondering why GH reacted the way he did (his haha-answer) and I thought about centurion in the recent Star Wars game, who was lynch immune and reacted in a similar way.

AND YET YOU DID NOT VOTE FOR HIM. This is classic mafia behavior: subtly nudge along a bandwagon with an offhand comment, a FOS, or the like, yet vote for someone else so you can keep your own hands clean when the player turns up innocent. I swear I get about a 50% ROI on calling out this sort of thing.

I was only asking why he was laughing. It was not my intention to raise suspicions on GH.

There's also the focus on lurkers. It's not a given, but mafia, especially inexperienced mafia, often gravitate toward lurkers as an easy target -- because it can be SO hard to come up with a fake accusation sometimes. Lurkers are easy -- you get to vote based more on policy than on actual scummy behavior. So far you've voted slash, you've voted white_eyes (not sure who else), and you've devoted a considerable fraction of your posts to discussing post counts, encouraging lurkers to speak, and pondering whether players like Flax and split actually are lurkers. It's the sort of thing that looks superficially like productive towniness, but is not.

The focus on lurkers. I have it in every games I play. I track the post counts in every of my games, and I can prove this. The reason why I focus on them is because it is an easy way to hide and because they ruin the game. Mafia can easily hide as a lurker because they can hardly make a mistake if they don't post.

We spoke about this already Renata, but I don't get it. Why would people think this is a mafia behavior? Is it unreasonable to think that at least one mafia is a lurker in this game? A mafia would be targeting his own friend if he was to be anti-lurker.

Obviously I'm new and I don't get how people here think and which tactics the mafia usually win with. There are a lot of things that I don't get: why lurkers are not encouraged to speak, why some people act like clowns, why some people are not answering pressure and get away with it. A lot of this I don't get but I am sure that lurkers are bad. They don't post, they don't help finding the mafia, they have the best cover, some don't read all the posts and make bad votes when they do vote.

I'm surprised that I have to defend my anti-lurker position.

Finally, "it's OK when I do it but not when you do it" -- after a discussion with Niklas you voted TinCow based on TinCow's defense of another player (now known to be a townie). You argued TinCow might have done it so as to look good. Yet you've just done essentially the same thing yourself, by pre-emptively defending Niklas against my questioning. The only difference is that TinCow was defending someone who'd accused him, while you are defending someone someone else had (sort of) accused, but the potential motivations are not substantially different. Why not let Niklas answer for himself?

I answered because you miinterpreted what I wrote. Niklas did not asked me to vote for TinCow. Niklas had no vote against him., I was not defending him, I was pointing out your misunderstanding.

White_eyes:D

05-20-2010, 16:08

Romanic

05-20-2010, 16:15

Vote:Romanic for targeting lurkers.....and Renata made a good point....(I know I used that "Lynch taka" argument to try and win 'Godfather 3' but failed:book:)

Two points on how Romanic is doing it WRONG in this case....1.If I am lurking....then I will be lynch/killed before the end, always am:bounce:
2.taka won several games by lurking, just before 'Godfather 3'....I have won ZERO games by lurking, it's just not right:shrug:

I don't know where to start to say how suspicious this post his. You never show up when we talk about you but it takes you about 15 minutes to jump on me after I defend myself. Obviously you are interested in this thread and you pick your time to post, joining in a bandwagon against someone who has suspected you for 4 days.

Edit: and unvote; vote: White_eyes:D btw.

TinCow

05-20-2010, 16:20

The focus on lurkers. I have it in every games I play. I track the post counts in every of my games, and I can prove this. The reason why I focus on them is because it is an easy way to hide and because they ruin the game. Mafia can easily hide as a lurker because they can hardly make a mistake if they don't post.

We spoke about this already Renata, but I don't get it. Why would people think this is a mafia behavior? Is it unreasonable to think that at least one mafia is a lurker in this game? A mafia would be targeting his own friend if he was to be anti-lurker.

Obviously I'm new and I don't get how people here think and which tactics the mafia usually win with. There are a lot of things that I don't get: why lurkers are not encouraged to speak, why some people act like clowns, why some people are not answering pressure and get away with it. A lot of this I don't get but I am sure that lurkers are bad. They don't post, they don't help finding the mafia, they have the best cover, some don't read all the posts and make bad votes when they do vote.

I'm surprised that I have to defend my anti-lurker position.

joining in a bandwagon against someone who has suspected you for 4 days.

So, let me get this straight. You're very anti-lurker and you suspected W_E for four days... but you chose to start today off with a vote for me instead of W_E or another lurker? That doesn't seem consistent at all.

The Stranger

05-20-2010, 16:27

because you are scum and need to die.

Romanic

05-20-2010, 16:36

So, let me get this straight. You're very anti-lurker and you suspected W_E for four days... but you chose to start today off with a vote for me instead of W_E or another lurker? That doesn't seem consistent at all.

But I am consistent.

Post #799 - Day 5 I vote against White_Eyes:D

I'll stand with Flax and Vote: White_Eyes for now. I want to hear from him.

How do you explain that GH is laughing when bandwagon is upcoming? Is he lynch immune?

Post #869 - Day 6 (today) I vote you because I felt you were scummier, but I do mention that White_Eyes:D is suspicious.

My last post in the thread was 2 days ago and it was a pressure vote against White Eyes, who turned out useless because of the bandwagon on GH. Why the suspicion?

I'll add that White Eyes has not replied since TheFlax and I put pressure on him. Also suspicious is AVSM who showed up after 4 days of inactivity to evage a WOG (and joined the bandwagon on GH).

Even more suspicious is Tincow. Look at posts #795 & #797: He's defending GH after he was GH voted him, to make it look like he's a good guy . Niklas made me realize that when we chatted, so all the credit goes to him. vote: Tincow

Where as White_eyes:D never showed up to answer the three votes against him on Day 5. And now he's suddenly interested to get me lynched.

Askthepizzaguy

05-20-2010, 16:41

The force is strong with this one...

TheFlax

05-20-2010, 17:06

Vote:Romanic for targeting lurkers.....and Renata made a good point....(I know I used that "Lynch taka" argument to try and win 'Godfather 3' but failed:book:)

Two points on how Romanic is doing it WRONG in this case....1.If I am lurking....then I will be lynch/killed before the end, always am:bounce:
2.taka won several games by lurking, just before 'Godfather 3'....I have won ZERO games by lurking, it's just not right:shrug:

Nice of you to pop in White_Eyes. Just in time to avoid the WOG eh? A bit much like AVSM, except its generally not your style. I also don't find your argument very convincing, we should trust you because you never won as a lurker? :laugh4: That's like me saying you should trust me because I've never been mafia in a large game...

Unvote, Vote: White_Eyes :D

White_eyes:D

05-20-2010, 17:08

I don't know where to start to say how suspicious this post his. You never show up when we talk about you but it takes you about 15 minutes to jump on me after I defend myself. Obviously you are interested in this thread and you pick your time to post, joining in a bandwagon against someone who has suspected you for 4 days.
Saw it.....thought Renata made a very good point that was better then yours....you say "White_eyes:D is suspicious" but you Vote for TinCow to get a more observant player lynched:book:

But that goes bad, so it's better to go back to Vote for me...because you were suspicious of me all along, and he is a lurker so why not?:inquisitive:

Renata

05-20-2010, 17:09

Edit: @ Pizza ---

:beam: It is, isn't it? There exist counter-arguments to his defenses, but I almost don't want to point them out, because he's doing so nicely. Almost nobody's actually bothered to defend themselves so far this game.

Kagemusha

05-20-2010, 17:16

Romanic

05-20-2010, 17:23

Saw it.....thought Renata made a very good point that was better then yours....you say "White_eyes:D is suspicious" but you Vote for TinCow to get a more observant player lynched:book:

But that goes bad, so it's better to go back to Vote for me...because you were suspicious of me all along, and he is a lurker so why not?:inquisitive:

I said why I voted TinCow instead of you: You looked scum, but he looked scummier. Niklas' arguments were good and I was convinced, but you've just turned the tables around by showing up like this.

TinCow

05-20-2010, 17:31

Edit: @ Pizza ---

:beam: It is, isn't it? There exist counter-arguments to his defenses, but I almost don't want to point them out, because he's doing so nicely.

Yep, he's even satisfied me for the moment.

Unvote; Vote: W_E

You're voting for him because he's targetting lurkers? I thought it was universally accepted that lurkers are bad, regardless of their alignment.

TheFlax

05-20-2010, 18:20

Should i just drop this whole news? I find it quite irritating that i try to create some fun while giving out tallies for this game. Meanwhile people who accuse me dont even bother to answer any questions i ask them in the news, while they dont themselves give anything to base their votes on. Do you miss my usual agressive play style so much?

Don't get us wrong, we do like your news report. Personally, I like them a lot. You have to admit though, it does potentially make for a nice cover and you don't seem have much of an opinion or vote much. Maybe you could go a bit harder on some people in your news program? Its not like news networks are objective anyways. :clown:

Also, I'd be glad to do an interview, but it seems up until now I haven't been deemed important enough. :sad:

Askthepizzaguy

05-20-2010, 18:32

I want you to continue to do the news reports Kagemusha. Don't get me wrong... you're awesome. It is just that your awesomeness is so brilliant, it blinds us to the possibility of you being guilty. And it's very possible. Don't take it personally.

But I would encourage you to use your aggressive feelings, Kage. Only your hatred can destroy the Ancient One.

atheotes

05-20-2010, 20:08

Vote: White_Eyes - Dont like his defense or the way he just popped in.
So, Beskar is claiming in private that he is the secret role?
Last phase he said GH was scummy but did not vote for him. He did not respond to my question on that either.

Renata

05-20-2010, 20:24

Your Naib has chosen an appropriate method of death, white_eyes. :bow:

seireikhaan

05-20-2010, 20:46

Romanic should be lynched. Unbelievably scummy. Only the scummiest of the scummy scum feel such a need to declare themselves good and consistent.

Andres

05-20-2010, 20:56

Voting concluded. Stand by for execution.

Romanic

05-20-2010, 20:58

Romanic should be lynched. Unbelievably scummy. Only the scummiest of the scummy scum feel such a need to declare themselves good and consistent.

I don't get it khaan. Should I not argue and let myself be lynched? What is so scummy about defending myself when people accuse me?

The Stranger

05-20-2010, 21:14

omg... this was such a weird lynchround... i dont know who to suspect anymore.

Renata

05-20-2010, 21:17

I do.

The Stranger

05-20-2010, 21:22

yeah we know you have all the anwsers... every possible one...

Renata

05-20-2010, 21:23

No answers, but 20 something suspects. Easy peasy.

Andres

05-20-2010, 21:36

Day 6 - Conclusion

https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Daggers%20in%20the%20Night/P9150330.jpg

Renata was filing her nails when they dragged White_eyes:D to her.

"Another one?" she asked, bored. "What'd this one do?"

"Nothing much," said TheFlax. "Only five of us voted for him."

"Five?" questioned the Naib incredulously. "Five? That is truly pathetic. I should let him go and kill the rest of you. Where are the days of the massive bandwagons? In my days, people who got lynched at least had 547 votes. Gah, these modern times."

TheFlax eyed the way Renata was holding her nail file and backed away nervously.

Renata sighed. "Very well then. White_eyes, you shall at least have a fitting death. Perfectly appropriate to your crimes."

White_eyes:D, held firmly between two burly daggers, felt a :sweatdrop: trickle down his spine. Renata didn't look so bored anymore.

"Hmmm :thinking:", Renata seemed to be in deep thoughts.

"Aha!" :idea3: "Or maybe, not.... :stupido3:

"Wait, I'll have to look...," Renata said.

:computer: :book: :idea: :jumping:

"Got it, got i!"

"It's about time," White_Eyes:D responded :mean:

:stare:

~:pissed:

:jumping: :laugh4:

:angry: :furious3: ~:mad:

:oops: :shrug: :help: :shame: :shrug: :juggle2: :wink:

~:mad ~:mad ~:mad :furious3: ~:angry:

Renata ignored White_Eyes:D anger and opened a nearby closet.

"Aha! There it is."

Holding a double bladed axe in her hand, she stepped forward.

:eeeek: :scared: :surrender2:

Renata gave a sign and four strong daggers stepped forward, forcing White:Eyes:D to kneel and tying him so that his head was on a block of wood.

:help: :bigcry: :shame:

With one mighty blow, Renata seperated White_Eyes:D head from his body :viking:

:shame: :skull:

Renata cleaned the axe with a piece of cloth and bowed to the daggers, as a sign that the day was over :bow:

***

Tally:

White_Eyes:D: 5 (TinCow, atheotes, Romanic, TheFlax, Diana Abnoba)

Beskar: 2 (Captain Blackadder, The Stranger)
The Stranger: 2 (Beskar, Choxorn)
Romanic: 2 (White_Eyes:D, Beefy187)
Beefy187: 2 (Jolt, pevergreen)
Kagemusha: 2 (YLC, Secura)

Not voting: 11 (Renata (Naib), Niklas, Double A, Methos, splitpersonality, GreyBlades, AVSM, Kukrikhan, johnhughthom, Kagemusha, Scienter)

***

Alive (25)

1. TheFlax
2. Niklas
3. Renata
4. Beskar
5. Diana Abnoba
6. Double A
7. TinCow
8. atheotes
9. The Stranger
10. Methos
11. spL1tp3r50naL1ty
12. Romanic
13. Captain Blackadder
14. Jolt
15. Greyblades
16. YLC
17. AVSM
18. Choxorn
19. Kukrikhan
20. Beefy187
21. Secura
22. Kagemusha
23. pevergreen
24. johnhughthom
25. Scienter

Killed (10)

autolycus
Yaropolk
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ibn-Khaldun
Psychonaut
Sasaki Kojiro
Yaseikhaan
Peasant Phill
Death is yonder

Lynched (5)

Csargo
Askthepizzaguy
Seon
GeneralHankerchief
White_Eyes:D

WoG (0)

***

It is now night. PM's please. Night will last for +/- 23 hours.

:bow:

Renata

05-20-2010, 21:44

Thank you Andres. A lovely realization of my vision. Wish I'd had time to do the whole thing. :bow:

The Stranger

05-20-2010, 22:02

totally awesome...

we went from Lynch Romanic he is SCUM to lynch White_Eyes... i doubt that we got mafia and the fact that only 5 people voted for him kinda makes it feels like someone got away... wether that lucky person is Beskar, Romanic or Kage is open for debate.

Jolt

05-20-2010, 22:20

Haha, awesome execution :bow:

Andres creates some of the best lynchings I've ever read.

Double A

05-20-2010, 23:37

I won't be here Friday to Sunday afternoon. Going to the beach without my computer because my mom needs hers and my dad's going to the wonderful land of Oz with mine.

Askthepizzaguy

05-21-2010, 01:33

Needed more bolding, italics, underlining, and I felt there weren't enough smiley faces.

Renata

05-21-2010, 02:38

Everybody's a critic.

The Stranger

05-21-2010, 08:40

Needed more bolding, italics, underlining, and I felt there weren't enough smiley faces.

i disagree... i thought it was a classic representation of prehistorich graphic art in the kohaluha desert region.

Askthepizzaguy

05-21-2010, 08:52

:dizzy2: More of a representation of "classic :book: White_Eyes" writing style. :beam: with lots of smiley faces :furious3: and odd text formatting. :inquisitive:

Andres

05-21-2010, 09:29

Needed more bolding, italics, underlining, and I felt there weren't enough smiley faces.

Hmmm...

:brood:

*** infallible host opens door to torture room for souls of dead players ***

What did you say again...?

Askthepizzaguy

05-21-2010, 10:13

What did you say again...?

I said "I'd offer to shine your shoes, gov'na, but they're already absolutely perfect! Yet, I'd still do it if it pleased ye."

KukriKhan

05-21-2010, 14:09

Yeah, erm, about that. Looking back to the latest "Alive List", slashandburn is not even in there. I'm pretty sure he was replaced by someone.

Alive (26)

1. TheFlax
2. Niklas
3. Renata
4. Beskar
5. Diana Abnoba
6. Double A
7. TinCow
8. atheotes
9. The Stranger
10. Methos
11. spL1tp3r50naL1ty
12. Romanic
13. Captain Blackadder
14. Jolt
15. Greyblades
16. YLC
17. AVSM
18. Choxorn
19. Kukrikhan
20. White_Eyes:D
21. Beefy187
22. Secura
23. Kagemusha
24. pevergreen
25. johnhughthom
26. Scienter

Aw heck, you're right: I pulled up an old "Alive Players" list and compared it to the post-count list. So I wasted a lynch vote. Sorry folks. I worked some overtime on the day-job yesterday, so didn't get a chance to correct my mistake. I'll do better.

Thanks for the correction. :bow:

Andres

05-21-2010, 21:19

Night 6 - Conclusion

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The moon was shining over the Alhambra.

Standing in the dark, on the small balcony of his hotelroom, enjoying the magnificent scenery, YLC sipped from his coffee. Such a beautiful city, such a rich history, he simply couldn't get enough of it. And the food! An endless variety of tapas; eating in Andalusia never gets boring. YLC regretted the circumstances under which he had to be here.

His cup was empty and he decided to go inside. He closed the window and switched on the light. Looking for the latest manual on vampire hunting, YLC sighed. He didn't feel like reading. He wasn't in the mood to concentrate and read boring work related literature.

He put the book back on the shelve, switched out the lights again, picked the bottle of sherry and a glass and went back to his balcony, to sit down and enjoy the magnificent view.

While he was drinking and just sitting there, he slowly got carried away by sweet dreams and fantasies about medieval times, the Moorish rulers of this city and how it would have been if he had lived in that era.

After his third glass of sherry, YLC suddenly felt bursts of inspiration, so he decided to stand up and to go inside to take a pencil and some paper.

A few minutes later, he came back and yelled at the moon: "This is an excellent night for poetry! Oh lovely city, let me honor your beauty!"

That said, he sat down and began to write.

He never saw the cloaked figure nor the wire coming. YLC struggled for a few moments, but his attacker was too strong and he got strangled to death.

The killer paused for a while, then drew his knife and made a large cut in YLC's throat.

Before leaving, the attacker looked at the sheet of paper.

"Granada, beautiful Granada,
" With your red fortress
" and your dangerous hunter
" for red blood
" Granada, oh beautiful...

The rest of the poem was unreadable, due to the blood ...

***

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The cool breeze sent shiverings down here spine. She shouldn't be here and she knew it very well. By being here, she was ignoring the advice she had given the daggers a few days ago, when she was still their Naib.

She shrugged. Some of them had been killed in their own rooms, so why should she stay inside? It wasn't much safer in their hotels. And all the tourist information said the Albaicin is an absolute must to visit.

But there was another reason to be here: Albaicin is where the daggers won their last major victory agains the vampires by killing Alim. She simply couldn't resist the temptation to visit this part of the city.

However, in spite of her thoughts about the fascinating ancient streets and houses, she couldn't shake off the feeling that she was being followed. The former Naib kept looking left and right, while quickly walking back to her hotel.

Suddenly, a dark figure jumped in front of her. It had a wooden club in its' hands and swung it at her.

Secura owed her life to her excellent reflexes by quickly jumping aside, avoiding the deadly swing.

The dark figure yelled out its' frustration.

Secura decided she couldn't win this fight alone, and so she started to run. While she was running, she had an odd feeling of déjà-vue.

Tonight, she was not the hunter, but the prey, she realised. She should have known better. Running through the narrow streets of Albaicin, she feverishly started to think about a place to hide. An arrow barely missed her and she kept running. Wondering how the attacker did find her, wouldn't help. It was too late. She had to disappear. And quickly. Her senses told her that the Alhambra was behind her, so she had to go left, then right, then straight ahead and then she had to climb up the little house with the grey...

When she entered the alley, she realised her mistake. There would be no where to run. Disappearing was no longer an option.

Her follower came near, holding the wooden club in her hand.

"Meet my little friend," the attacker said, laughing.

Faster than ligthning, the club hit her head. She fell on the floor, her skull fractured. The last thing she saw, was the reflection of the moonlight on the blade that seperated her head from her body.

***

Day 7

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Renata looked up when the last dagger arrived. Slowly standing up, she looked briefly at the brotherhood.

"Our ranks are getting thinner by the day. We need to make progress!"

Before sitting down, the Naib seemed to remember something.

"Also, you will have to elect a Naib today. Chose wise, it is an important decision."

***

Alive (23)

1. TheFlax
2. Niklas
3. Renata
4. Beskar
5. Diana Abnoba
6. Double A
7. TinCow
8. atheotes
9. The Stranger
10. Methos
11. spL1tp3r50naL1ty
12. Romanic
13. Captain Blackadder
14. Jolt
15. Greyblades
16. AVSM
17. Choxorn
18. Kukrikhan
19. Beefy187
20. Kagemusha
21. pevergreen
22. johnhughthom
23. Scienter

Killed (12)

autolycus
Yaropolk
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ibn-Khaldun
Psychonaut
Sasaki Kojiro
Yaseikhaan
Peasant Phill
Death is yonder
YLC
Secura

Lynched (5)

Csargo
Askthepizzaguy
Seon
GeneralHankerchief
White_Eyes:D

WoG (0)

***

It is now day. You can start voting. You will also have to elect a Naib. Day will last for +/- 24 hours.

***

Announcement: johnhughthom will be replaced by Diamondeye.

I'm slowly running out of replacements. Some people risk to be WoG'ed...

:bow:

Beskar

05-21-2010, 21:22

I think I should be Naib, so we don't end up with some one pointless.

Vote: Beskar

Beskar

05-21-2010, 21:23

Make that...

unvote: Beskar
elect: Beskar

atheotes

05-21-2010, 21:27

you are not voting for anyone?

Diamondeye

05-21-2010, 21:41

:bow: Finally I can enter the Circle of Daggers.

I've been following the thread, but I'm not too hot on who strikes me as most scummy at the moment... I'm going to place a tentative vote on vote:Beefy187 :curtain:

Also, Renata, since you've served your time as naib, will you be revealing your orders for the past three nights like Secura did?

To let the ladies keep the leadership, I am going to say elect: Diana this time.

((Also, meta; I will be gone for most of this weekend, so I may come off as a slow starter, but I promise I will be active when I get back even despite exams and stuff. I informed Andres of this before he let me join, so I don't suppose it'll be a problem))

The Stranger

05-21-2010, 22:10

vote beskar

he votes for him self because he is guilty!

Sasaki Kojiro

05-21-2010, 22:19

Let's go with Renata as Naib again.

We should lynch romanic and then figure out who from the people who started up that white_eyes wagon could be partners of his.

The Stranger

05-21-2010, 22:21

actually i agree there. with the second part...

unvote: vote romanic

ULC

05-21-2010, 22:28

Andres, can you confirm if the mafioso have any influence in the write ups?

Andres

05-21-2010, 23:03

Andres, can you confirm if the mafioso have any influence in the write ups?

All of it is me having fun :2thumbsup:

ULC

05-21-2010, 23:15

All of it is me having fun :2thumbsup:

Okay then.

Askthepizzaguy

05-22-2010, 01:19

I endorse Diana for Naib, and I also want to state explicitly that it is not because I am playing favorites. I believe she would make an excellent Naib.

She's never had a role like that before in games. My one and only request for who becomes Naib.

Secura

05-22-2010, 01:22

I think YLC and I hit a little too close for comfort, hmmm?

Beskar

05-22-2010, 02:19

Vote: Kagemusha

Jolt

05-22-2010, 02:36

That's it. It's the second turn in a row they failed to dispose of TinCow.

Elect: Jolt

It's time I help the town get rid of the Mafia.

White_eyes:D

05-22-2010, 02:42

We should lynch romanic and then figure out who from the people who started up that white_eyes wagon could be partners of his.
romanic, TheFlax and TinCow were all behind that one....I told you guys that he was only making me a lynch to save himself:shrug:(I am betting romanic is the Godfather vampire....but we will see)

Beefy187

05-22-2010, 02:46

atheotes

05-22-2010, 03:12

elect: Diana

Renata - can you post your night actions?

Kagemusha

05-22-2010, 03:30

Aand Good morning from Saharan news! Last night our community lost yet again two formidable members. If this suicide and accident wave doesnt come to a closure. Soon we have to start taking in emmigrant workers. YLC was found dead on a balcony of one of our hotels. The probable cause of death being cheap red wine and bad poetry. That is no way to die says our experts.

The always so lovely Secura apparently lost her head and jumped out from rooftop. It is apparent that she never got quite over the mess she made with ATPG. Our expert Kage Al Musha has few general comments as it would seem he is moritfied by the horrible incidents of last night.

Thank you! This is Kage Al musha live from Granada where gruesome events took part last night. I am very unhappy by the fact that both two of my closest supporters of last day to win the elections died instantly afterwards. I cant help but to understand that this is nothing but a frame attempt. So lets Vote: Beskar. Please explain how suddenly you decide to vote for me after leaving your votes to random Gods all the way through this game? Also i would like to support Diana Abnoba as our new Naib, so Elect: Diana. Im sure she will do better job, then the anti media and bloody Naib we had last.

And this was all from Saharan news!Good morning and Good bless!