Daggers in the Night [Concluded]

[Sasaki Kojiro]

After pondering on the Kagemusha lynch, I'm not sure its best to go for it today,

Why aren't you sure?



but we need to try again soon, that's for sure.

Why are you sure?

[Kagemusha]

Im sorry The Stranger, but it would seem that you are mafia and should die. So Vote:The Stranger

[The Stranger]

Well, it seems like Jolt sealed my fate. I guess these will be my final words. I may have stepped on everyone's nerves this game, again. And I may have done so intentionally and at times I have done so unintentionally. However, after those initial rounds I've honestly tried to put in a good effort for the town, starting by behaving myself. The case that TinCow started against me probably killed me and it may kill the town's chances for victory along with it. If TinCow turns out to be mafia, well, then he did great. If not, it seems that in the end, he isn't such a great mafia hunter also. He claims my post about the Vigilante Kills was scummy, but I was just being rational, and as other players such as Sasaki realised later on, using the vigikill wasn't such a good idea after all. I would like to alarm the town to pay close attention to those who voted for me this round, and at those who voted for Kage last round, since it is highly likely that 1 or 2 mafia's will be found there. This is a crucial vote and they know it, and so my time alas has come and I have been used for what I am good, as a distraction.

:bow:

May the town be rallied by the souls of the dead!

@ Diana, knock yourself out with the writeup, I expect nothing less but Blood and Gore, make it the best you ever wrote.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

If Kage can be lynched today, then the mafia are pushing a different lynch.

[Scienter]

Since Diana is willing to run, Elect: Diana.

[The Stranger]

Since Diana is willing to run, Elect: Diana.

nvrmind.

[TinCow]

Well, it seems like Jolt sealed my fate. I guess these will be my final words. I may have stepped on everyone's nerves this game, again. And I may have done so intentionally and at times I have done so unintentionally. However, after those initial rounds I've honestly tried to put in a good effort for the town, starting by behaving myself. The case that TinCow started against me probably killed me and it may kill the town's chances for victory along with it. If TinCow turns out to be mafia, well, then he did great. If not, it seems that in the end, he isn't such a great mafia hunter also. He claims my post about the Vigilante Kills was scummy, but I was just being rational, and as other players such as Sasaki realised later on, using the vigikill wasn't such a good idea after all. I would like to alarm the town to pay close attention to those who voted for me this round, and at those who voted for Kage last round, since it is highly likely that 1 or 2 mafia's will be found there. This is a crucial vote and they know it, and so my time alas has come and I have been used for what I am good, as a distraction.

I must be hallucinating. It seems like this post says the following:

1) I could be mafia, even though I was killed by the mafia.
2) You were right about vig kills being bad, even though the only vig kill we've used looks like it hit scum.
3) Voting for Kage last round wasn't a pro-town thing to do.

That can't be right, can it?

[The Stranger]

I must be hallucinating. It seems like this post says the following:

1) I could be mafia, even though I was killed by the mafia.
2) You were right about vig kills being bad, even though the only vig kill we've used looks like it hit scum.
3) Voting for Kage last round wasn't a pro-town thing to do.

That can't be right, can it?

1) No, thats not what it says
2) You may have been lucky, you probably are not so lucky.
3) No, it was good, however I think a mafia is hiding there because it was safe for him to vote, since Kage wouldn't die anyway.

[TinCow]

Why do you think the town's chances of victory might die with you?

[The Stranger]

It might, if this is the crucial lynch. If not, than it hasn't died with me. But you do the math.

13 Players left alive, 12 of which can vote. After this round this changes to 12 and 11. After the night it changes to 10 and 9 or 11 and 10 (in the best scenario it stays 12 and 11).

So now it is Day 10, worst case scenario:

10 Players alive, 9 can vote, Diana is Naib.

2 possibly 3 Mafia's can vote. They will likely take 1 player with them.
We have Split not voting, Pever not voting, Jolt not being helpful, we have Double A not voting.

who will halt the mafia?

Look at the players who voted for me,

Methos, Scienter, Kage, Jolt, all mafia suspects.

[TinCow]

You still think there are three mafioso alive?

[The Stranger]

You still think there are three mafioso alive?

I dont think so, im just saying worst case scenario... read my friggin posts for a time.

[TinCow]

I find it interesting that you only start putting some effort into your arguments when you're about to be lynched. Seems like desperation rather than true mafia hunting.

[Diana Abnoba]

Tally:

Lynch:

The Stranger: 5 (choxorn, Scienter, Methos, Jolt, Kage)
Methos: 3 (The Stranger, Flax, DiamondEye)

Naib:

Diana: 5 (diana, Scienter,Methos, DiamondEye, Choxorn)
TheFlax: 3 (TheFlax, DiamondEye,Stranger)
Kagemusha: 1 (Kagemusha)

[The Stranger]

You think you are so smart... Think again.

[Methos]

Unelect: Methos; Elect: Diana

[Jolt]

Well, it seems like Jolt sealed my fate.

I'd say you sealed your own fate. You have been sealing your fate since the beginning of the game. Accusing me of voting for myself as scum is nothing short of the continuity of your utterly miserable attempts at finding scum. I may be quiet, but to me that's certainly better than to start randomly accusing (Actually, voting for them) people on bad accounts.

[The Stranger]

yeah right. not only didnt you intentially not unvote, but now you actually do yourself what you accuse me of doing. -_-'

and i havent heard anything of you about that unvote, you didnt even make an excuse...

[Diamondeye]

unelect; elect: Diana Abnoba
unvote; vote: Methos

Both as promised earlier. I feared I was too late to come back, but it looks like I made it.

[TheFlax]

Why aren't you sure?

At the risk of rehashing poorly ATPG's arguments, we can't be sure if he is still lynch immune today. Also, we can't be certain how the alternate candidate is picked. Since a Kagemusha lynch didn't seem like it was happening, I switched to Methos because I like him better as a lynch than The Stranger, no matter how annoying the latter has been.


Why are you sure?

I was first on the vote for Kagemusha today for a reason, I think we'll have to test his lynch immunity again soon, or see if we can vig him, because we need to get rid of him. It just seems today is not the best day for that. Its not like my vote would have changed much anyways, considering the droves of votes for The Stranger.

[Jolt]

yeah right. not only didnt you intentially not unvote, but now you actually do yourself what you accuse me of doing. -_-'

and i havent heard anything of you about that unvote, you didnt even make an excuse...

I'll give you a hint. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forgetting)

[The Stranger]

yeah right...

[Askthepizzaguy]

At the risk of rehashing poorly ATPG's arguments

Or risk rehashing ATPG's poor arguments.... :clown:

[Choxorn]

I really think we need to find out how Kage's lynch immunity actually works soon, but fine.

Elect: Diana Abnoba

[TheFlax]

Or risk rehashing ATPG's poor arguments.... :clown:

I like my way better.

[TheFlax]

I really think we need to find out how Kage's lynch immunity actually works soon, but fine.

Elect: Diana Abnoba

Then why did you vote for The Stranger initially? (And are still voting for him)

[Renata]

How about rehashing poor ATPG's arguments?

[Diana Abnoba]

Tally:

Lynch:

The Stranger: 5 (choxorn, Scienter, Methos, Jolt, Kage)
Methos: 3 (The Stranger, Flax, DiamondEye)

Naib:

Diana: 6 (diana, Scienter,Methos, DiamondEye, Choxorn, Kagemusha)
TheFlax: 2 (TheFlax,Stranger)

[Kagemusha]

Well as it seems i dont get any support to save your sorry buts. Unelect and Elect: Diana. Im looking forward to another chance to die by your hand.~:)

[Andres]

20 minutes left.

EDIT: voting concluded, TS is lynched. Write-up will follow. PM's can be sent.

[Choxorn]

Then why did you vote for The Stranger initially? (And are still voting for him)

I thought other people were voting for Kage, and now it's pointless to vote for him.

[Andres]

Day 10 - Conclusion

https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Daggers%20in%20the%20Night/P9150330.jpg


Tempers flared as the souls of the dead seemed more lively than the souls of the living.

The Naib stepped forward, seemingly irritated by certain folks not voting. But someone who was usually talkative was strangely silent after losing a grand debate with the ghost of a metallic cow (:inquisitive:), and it made everyone more suspicious of him. After counting the votes, a smile crept across the Naib's face. She snapped her fingers and one of the daggers brought her a lasso.

"Oh, I have been waiting for this for a long, long time. The Stranger, step forward please."

The Stranger looked at the Naib, and saw the gleam in her eye, and decided that running was his best option. Immediately the Naib was after him, easily keeping up with The Stranger as he tried to scamper away. He ducked around corners, he climbed up fire escapes, he jumped from rooftop to rooftop, but the Naib was following him and not even breaking a sweat.

He eventually got turned back around, and dashed through the crowd. The Naib seemed to be enjoying herself, and began swinging the lasso. With one skilled toss, the lasso went over The Stranger and dropped down to his legs and began to tighten. The Stranger went down like a sack of potatoes, landing in the rocky sand face first.

Diana Abnoba pulled the rope as tight as it would go, and began to hogtie the young dagger with great enthusiasm. Suddenly he yelled: "You can't do this! I still have so much inspiration, so much to tell you! I have all this poetry in me and it needs to get out before I die!"

The Naib ignored him until a few daggers, slowly stepped forward, each of them holding a book in their hands.

"Ehm, hm, *cough*"

The Naib paused, seemingly annoyed.

"We bought his book and before he dies, we'd like him to sign it. You never know if he becomes famous after dead."

The Naib sighed, untied The Stranger and waved her hand. "Hurry up, will ya! I haven't got all day!"

The daggers quickly stepped over to The Stranger who signed their books, his eyes covered in tears.

When the small interruption was over, the Naib grabbed the rope and pulled it even tighther than the previous time. When The Stranger was tied up good and tight, his face expressing pain, she pulled out a pair of silver six-shooters and began shooting them into the air.

"Yeeee-hah!" the Naib shouted, as she began dragging the hogtied Stranger back to the center of the crowd.

"What are you going to do to me?" stammered The Stranger.

"You do remember all those lovely negative comments about women, right?" said the Naib.

"Yeah, it's quite obvious that a male-dominated society would have easily caught the Ancient One by now, and the only reason that we haven't is because of the total incompetence of the female establishment. You women are more concerned with your purses and your nails than you are about catching scum!" began The Stranger.

The Naib just stood there, shaking her head.

Scienter stepped forward from the crowd. "Let me do it, please... I promise it will be painful. Please, oh please..."

The wind began to blow, and it seemed to whisper in the voices of Secura and Renata... crying out for the blood of The Stranger.

The Naib listened to the wind with her eyes closed, and nodded solemnly.

"I understand you wish to do this, but you elected me Naib. And as a result, the responsibility.... and the pleasure.... is all mine," she said, smiling sardonically.

With a beastly scream, Diana jumped on top of The Stranger and pinned him to the ground. She began strangling him with the rope, but quickly switched to her bare hands. The Stranger gasped and struggled but there was no escape.

"Die! Die! Die!" roared Diana with pleasure. She lifted up his head and bashed it against the ground repeatedly, never loosening her grip. His face turned blue.

Just before The Stranger lost consciousness, Diana let go. The Stranger coughed and choked, and he struggled to catch his breath. But Diana lifted up her silver dagger and began stabbing him in the chest... in the stomach... just stabbing wildly. Anywhere the dagger landed would do.

The Stranger screamed in pain, as Diana stabbed him in the heart. Then she took her pair of silver revolvers and pointed them at The Stranger's head, and pulled both triggers. There wasn't much left of his head when it was over.

The other daggers were slightly disturbed by the level of violence, but at least one voice in the crowd yelled with approval, and Diana herself looked quite pleased.

She walked over to a wooden chest and opened it. In it were two swords; it were the blades of the former Naibs.

Diana grabbed a sword, stepped to The Strangers' body and cut off his both legs, screaming "This is for Secura!" Then she took the second sword and cut off the two arms, yelling "And this is for Renata!"

Suddenly, Scienter ran forward, holding her sword firmly in her hand and cut off The Strangers' head. "And this one is for me!!!!"

Both women then started to pour gasoline over the body parts. They stepped backwards and both lit a cigarette. Inhaling the smoke, they looked at each other and grinned. Two cigarettes were thrown simultaneously at the remnants of The Stranger. A big "woosh" sound could be heard and soon, all that was left of the talented poet were dust and ashes.

Scienter went back to her place and Diana, finally calmed down enough to be able to speak, softly said.

"Thank you for electing me as your Naib again. I'll do the best I can to save us from our enemy."



***

Lynch Tally:

The Stranger: 5 (Jolt, Choxorn, Kagemusha, Scienter, Methos) :skull:

Methos: 3 (TheFlax, The Stranger, Diamondeye)

Not voting: 5 (Diana (Naib), Beefy187, splitpersonality, Double A, pevergreen)

Naib Election:


Diana Abnoba : 6 (Scienter, Diamondeye, Kagemusha, Choxorn, Methos, Diana Abnoba)

TheFlax: 2 (The Stranger, TheFlax)

Not voting: 5 (pevergreen, Beefy187, Jolt, splitpersonality, Double A)


***

Alive (12)

1. TheFlax
2. Diana Abnoba
3. Double A
4. Methos
5. spL1tp3r50naL1ty
6. Jolt
7. Choxorn
8. Beefy187
9. Kagemusha
10. pevergreen
11. DiamondEye
12. Scienter

Killed (18)

autolycus
Yaropolk
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ibn-Khaldun
Psychonaut
Sasaki Kojiro
Yaseikhaan
Peasant Phill
Death is yonder
YLC
Secura
Captain Blackadder
GreyBlades
Niklas
TinCow
Kukrikhan
Renata

Lynched (9)

Csargo
Askthepizzaguy
Seon
GeneralHankerchief
White_Eyes:D
Romanic
atheotes
Beskar
The Stranger

WoG (1)
AVSM


***

It's now night. PM's please. Night will last for +/- 23 hours.

:bow:

[Secura]

Kawaii. <3

You went totally overboard in killing him, but it just seemed so fitting... masterful. :bow:

[Diana Abnoba]

Thanks Andres for not changing to much of that write up and the thing you did change/add were great! :2thumbsup:

Thanks Secura, I thought you all would like this write up (well maybe not The Stranger). Sorry man, but you said be bloody, and give it my all. :grin: And you earned it.

Note to the rest of you men, don't mess with the ladies. :laugh4:

[Scienter]

Bravo! Excellent write up! :laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I actually toned it down from where it was probably going to go, but Andres apparently decided it was too tame, and ended up putting in almost exactly what I had wanted to begin with, including the fire.

Take that, censorship! :applause:

[The Stranger]

bravo :bow: i couldn't have wished for anything better :)

[Choxorn]

:laugh4: That was awesome.

[Double A]

Hey guys, what's up?

[pevergreen]

Hey guys, what's up?

Bru!

[Double A]

:gah:

[KukriKhan]

No lightning, no diabolical laughter accompanying this kill. Just another dead townie, and lots of back-slapping.

Reminds me of Lord of the Flies.

Honestly, if town wants to win, town better get crackin', and finding REAL scum.

[Choxorn]

Like you?

[Diana Abnoba]

Hey guys, what's up?

Your life, if you don't pay more attention to this game. :brood:

[Diana Abnoba]

No lightning, no diabolical laughter accompanying this kill. Just another dead townie, and lots of back-slapping.

Reminds me of Lord of the Flies.

Honestly, if town wants to win, town better get crackin', and finding REAL scum.


Like you?



Been there, done that. :laugh4:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Just because you vigged someone, it doesn't mean they're guilty. That's a common mistake. I remember TinCow thought I was guilty in TGFIII for that reason.

[Beskar]

I remember in Khaan mafia, I got a mafia lynched and the host made him look like a townie. Really put egg on my face, as I claimed detective and apparently lied to the town.

Was only half-a-lie, he was a mafia.

[The Stranger]

difference is, beskar = always mafia

TS = never mafia.

[Beskar]

difference is, beskar = always mafia

I wish I was always Mafia, far from it.

Everytime I score a mafia role, it is a sucky one where you got to share kills, and there are superduper pro-towns and third parties which make the mafia look like a complete joke.

[pevergreen]

difference is, beskar = always mafia

TS = never mafia.

See, TS, thats wrong.

You have been mafia before.

[The Stranger]

woo... 1 time -_-'

[Kagemusha]

I would like to be also mafia once a while.:shame:

[Beskar]

I would like to be also mafia once a while.:shame:

Says Mr. Twice out of his two games.

[TinCow]

Just because you vigged someone, it doesn't mean they're guilty. That's a common mistake. I remember TinCow thought I was guilty in TGFIII for that reason.

Yeah, but citing me is easy because I'm always wrong.

I will say that Andres has always put clues about the game into his write-ups, via the descriptions and the order of the actions. On that basis, I do think that Kukri's vig does make him look like he had a role. Then again, I'm always wrong. :laugh4:

[Double A]

Your life, if you don't pay more attention to this game. :brood:

*gulp*

Yes mam.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Yeah, but citing me is easy because I'm always wrong.

I will say that Andres has always put clues about the game into his write-ups, via the descriptions and the order of the actions. On that basis, I do think that Kukri's vig does make him look like he had a role. Then again, I'm always wrong. :laugh4:

1 (presumable town) special role. 3 mafia. Kage is known, and since the kills dropped, it's possible we got a slave. That gives 50/50 odds of Kukri being mafia. And Sasaki thinks he sounds townie. So put it at 90/10 :p

I don't know that the slaves would be described like that either.

[Niklas]

Sasaki, that a rather big "presumable" you got there. Your whole reasoning is based on the special role being town-aligned, which I don't see why we should assume.

I think Kukri's lack of comment on his own role is suspicious enough to not consider him town. If he were, and is now dead, why hasn't he shared what he knows with the rest of the town?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sasaki, that a rather big "presumable" you got there. Your whole reasoning is based on the special role being town-aligned, which I don't see why we should assume.

I think Kukri's lack of comment on his own role is suspicious enough to not consider him town. If he were, and is now dead, why hasn't he shared what he knows with the rest of the town?

No dead reveal is a common enough rule, and seems sporting anyhow.

I don't really see the special role being mafia, doesn't make that much sense. That was the way in the first godfather, but the mafia walked away with that one, and in the next two godfathers it was a pro town role. Since the mafia appear to have been beefed up with Kage's lynch escape, I doubt there is a 4th.

Essentially you guys are betting against reason and the odds because you "can't be sure" but of course that works much better as an argument against your position.

[Diana Abnoba]

I think the this "special role" in this game is neutral.

[TinCow]

I think the this "special role" in this game is neutral.

I agree, but I think it's irrelevant in any case. Without any evidence of the role's alignment, it must be assumed to be hostile to the town in some manner.

[Andres]

Night 10 - Conclusion

https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Daggers%20in%20the%20Night/Alhambramoon.jpg


The full moon was shining over the Alhambra.

At the graveyard, a figure wearing a dark cloak could be seen walking around. It stopped in front of one of the new graves.

"Wake up, now!"

Nothing happened.

"Obey me, you lazy slave! Now!"

Something appeared to be moving and suddenly, a hand became visible. It took a few more minutes, before a headless body crawled out of the grave.

"Your head, idiot! Take it and put it on your shoulders."

The corpse started digging with its' hands for a couple of minutes. It appeared as if it had found something. Another couple of minutes of digging and the corpse turned around, holding Secura's head in its' hands.

"Put your head where it belongs, you fool".

The remnants of Secura obeyed its' master and then waited.

"Ok, slave, these are my orders for the night..."


***

https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Daggers%20in%20the%20Night/Alabaicinnight2.jpg

Jolt liked Spain and he knew the country pretty well, but there were some things his people simply did better.

Take Sherry. Of course, it isn't bad, but it can't beat the fine taste of Porto! And they had some decent wine in this country, but surely, nothing beats Madeira wine!

Sipping from his dry sherry, he continued the line of thoughts. Barcelona and Real Madrid. Bah. Ok, it were great soccer teams, but if you're looking for joy and exciting football, then surely, you needed to go watch Porto, or, even better, Benfica!

The somehow chauvinistic dagger was very busy comparing Spain to his country, slowly working towards the inevitable conclusion that Portugal was better than Spain in as good as everything. And so, he didn't notice the dark figure behind him, holding a wooden club in its' hands.

The attacker yelled "Olé!" and hit the target on the head.

Jolt fell out of his sofa and was lying on the ground in a pool of his own blood and some pieces of his skull.

The attacker graciously stepped forwards, yelled "Olé" and beheaded the target.

Calmly, the killer stepped forward and sipped on Jolts' sherry.

"He's right. I prefer porto over this stuff any time of the day."


***

https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Daggers%20in%20the%20Night/Granadanight.jpg

Choxorn was fanatically playing Civ IV on his laptop when somebody knocked on the door of his hotelroom.

"One moment please, just one more turn."

A few minutes passed and again, the person outside knocked on his door.

"I'm coming, I'm coming, just one more turn."

Again a few minutes passed and again, the person outisde knocked on the door.

"Yes, yes, just one more turn!"

Three hours later.

With a loud crashing sound, Choxorns' door was utterly destroyed.

Secura entered his room, a glimpse of anger and frustration on her dead face.

Choxorn looked up briefly. "Oh, it's you."

and then turned back to his game.

After he finished his turn, he looked up and murmured "Weren't you dead or something?"

And then he continued playing.

Secura stepped forward and grabbed Choxorns' throat.

"Hey! What? Please, juste one more argh, argh, argh."

Secura kept pinching and squeezing Choxorns' throat and finally, he stopped kicking and moving. She tightened her grip a bit more and was rewarded with the sound of a breaking neck.

She opened her hands and Choxorns' dead body fell on the floor.

At the same time, Secura's body evaporated; soon there was nothing left of her, but dust and ashes.


***

Day 11

https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Daggers%20in%20the%20Night/P9150305.jpg

Diana was standing at the courtyard, overlooking the small group of remaining brothers and sisters.

With a grim expression, she walked towards the Naibs' seat.

"Let's talk," was all she said to open yet another day of lively debates.


***

Alive (10)

1. TheFlax
2. Diana Abnoba
3. Double A
4. Methos
5. spL1tp3r50naL1ty
6. Beefy187
7. Kagemusha
8. pevergreen
9. DiamondEye
10. Scienter

Killed (20)

autolycus
Yaropolk
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ibn-Khaldun
Psychonaut
Sasaki Kojiro
Yaseikhaan
Peasant Phill
Death is yonder
YLC
Secura
Captain Blackadder
GreyBlades
Niklas
TinCow
Kukrikhan
Renata
Choxorn
Jolt

Lynched (9)

Csargo
Askthepizzaguy
Seon
GeneralHankerchief
White_Eyes:D
Romanic
atheotes
Beskar
The Stranger

WoG (1)
AVSM


***

It's now day. You can start voting. Double A need to vote today or he'll get WoG'ed.

:bow:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Was that another vig kill???????? With secura being brought back? Choxorn is a decent target but still...


I agree, but I think it's irrelevant in any case. Without any evidence of the role's alignment, it must be assumed to be hostile to the town in some manner.

No it doesn't, that's superstitious.

[The Stranger]

and here we go. worst case scenario as propheted by TS.

guess that clears me.

[Kagemusha]

And yet more deaths.I demand immediate action to stop these accidents and suiciides from happening. When people start strangling themselves because of bad CIV IV performance,something needs to be done!

[TheFlax]

Was that another vig kill???????? With secura being brought back? Choxorn is a decent target but still...

I don't think so, unless the Naib can raise people from the dead. :dizzy2:

My understanding is that the vig kills use a drugged up living dagger.

I'm pretty sure this means KukriKhan wasn't behind the raising of atheotes the night before to kill Renata. Though I don't know exactly where that leaves us. I'm tempted to try to lynch Kagemusha again myself, unless there is a big opposition to trying that?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I don't think so, unless the Naib can raise people from the dead. :dizzy2:

My understanding is that the vig kills use a drugged up living dagger.

Where the heck do you get this understanding? Link it for me.


I'm pretty sure this means KukriKhan wasn't behind the raising of atheotes the night before to kill Renata. Though I don't know exactly where that leaves us. I'm tempted to try to lynch Kagemusha again myself, unless there is a big opposition to trying that?

You don't want to push it if it's unpopular is what you are saying.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Where the heck do you get this understanding? Link it for me.

That's common knowledge. It should even be in the OP iirc.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I don't see it in the OP, but the writeup is clearly different.

The 2nd kill from the dead is very strange though.

[Askthepizzaguy]

d) Each night, the Naib has to pm me the name of one player and his/her orders for the night. The Naib will inject this player with a secret serum and he/she will carry out one of the following orders given by the Naib: a) protect one player; b) kill one player. The kill order can only be given twice during the entire game.

There was no vig kill used last night. That's why it looks different.




I cannot explain what is going on right now. Kukrikhan obviously had a secret role of some kind, and the kills don't match what one would expect from the Ancient One (according to the rules, he cannot kill until both slaves are dead.... and I'm looking at what seems to be obvious slave kills) and the rules state there was only ONE secret role.

I am very stumped. I have no frickin clue right now.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Yeah, but that doesn't say anything about a living player. However the vig kill on kukri had a "dagger going back to his naib".

Actually, checking the OP it doesn't seem to say anything about the kills dropping after a slave is lynched. It just says that when they are both gone the ancient one can only kill once. But it looks like we got one slave do to the change in format.

[The Stranger]

its like pizza and sasaki are the only ones playing for the town -_-

[Kagemusha]

There was no vig kill used last night. That's why it looks different.




I cannot explain what is going on right now. Kukrikhan obviously had a secret role of some kind, and the kills don't match what one would expect from the Ancient One (according to the rules, he cannot kill until both slaves are dead.... and I'm looking at what seems to be obvious slave kills) and the rules state there was only ONE secret role.

I am very stumped. I have no frickin clue right now.

Maybe the dead are coming back to get the mafia, when the alive ones cant find them?

[Renata]

I don't think so, unless the Naib can raise people from the dead. :dizzy2:

My understanding is that the vig kills use a drugged up living dagger.

I'm pretty sure this means KukriKhan wasn't behind the raising of atheotes the night before to kill Renata. Though I don't know exactly where that leaves us. I'm tempted to try to lynch Kagemusha again myself, unless there is a big opposition to trying that?

I think I do know; I think I was right, or close to it. Pizza, your cue to bring stuff up if you wish; I won't be around reliably until Tuesday.

[Renata]

Are you truly stumped, Pizza? Or is this strategery?

[Diana Abnoba]

There was no Vig kill last night. I can't raise people from the dead. This seems to me, only something supernatural can do this, like a vamp. This would make a good kill story for the ancient one, but we still have the wooden club, sword to neck kills guy, active (I think this is a henchmen/slave from the start) and the ancient one can't kill until his two slaves are dead (so the rules say). So do we have another special role? The rules also say there is only 1. What the **** is going on now?

Do we want to try for Kage today and see if he is still lynch immune? Maybe we should make sure another person, that we think could be a henchmen/slave, is in 2nd place, but only these 2 people have votes on them. We can pick from Beefy and Methos today. What do you guys want to do? Remember if you do this, you guys have to be organized about it, to make this work.

[Renata]

I'm almost positive I'm right. I'll post and say what I think, unless there's some strategic reason I should not.

[Kagemusha]

There was no Vig kill last night. I can't raise people from the dead. This seems to me, only something supernatural can do this, like a vamp. This would make a good kill story for the ancient one, but we still have the wooden club, sword to neck kills guy, active (I think this is a henchmen/slave from the start) and the ancient one can't kill until his two slaves are dead (so the rules say). So do we have another special role? The rules also say there is only 1. What the **** is going on now?

Do we want to try for Kage today and see if he is still lynch immune? Maybe we should make sure another person, that we think could be a henchmen/slave, is in 2nd place, but only these 2 people have votes on them. We can pick from Beefy and Methos today. What do you guys want to do? Remember if you do this, you guys have to be organized about it, to make this work.

Please dont lynch me.I promise il behave.~:)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Actually, checking the OP it doesn't seem to say anything about the kills dropping after a slave is lynched . It just says that when they are both gone the ancient one can only kill once. But it looks like we got one slave do to the change in format.

Hmmm...


Each slave will be capable of killing one townie. When both slaves are dead (and only then), the "Ancient" will be able to kill one townie a night.

That's quite an interesting interpretation, and I'm not sure I buy it. However, I am kind of at a loss so I'll just shut up.

[Diana Abnoba]

@ Kage

Well you could kill yourself (it might be less painful that way). :yes: :wink3:

[Kagemusha]

@ Kage

Well you could kill yourself (it might be less painful that way). :yes: :wink3:

Well that is a fair offer, but chopping ones head off by himself is bit difficult even for me. I wish Sasaki would still be around to teach me such a sword technique.:embarassed:

[Choxorn]

The dead choxorn yells at the Grim Reaper.

"Aw, come on, just one more turn!"

[Renata]

Heck with it, here's what I believe is going on.

Kukri was the Ancient Vampire. Kagemusha one of his slaves. Atheotes may have been the second one, or there could be another still alive who isn't killing just so as to ambush us near the end. I wouldn't do that myself, but there's no accounting for strategy. In any case, the important thing for right now:

The "special role" is the vampire Nikolaos, and he is a competitive, emergent Mafia. When Kukri died, he took over and is probably now allied with Kagemusha. Both of them are killing.

[Kagemusha]

Heck with it, here's what I believe is going on.

Kukri was the Ancient Vampire. Kagemusha one of his slaves. Atheotes may have been the second one, or there could be another still alive who isn't killing just so as to ambush us near the end. I wouldn't do that myself, but there's no accounting for strategy. In any case, the important thing for right now:

The "special role" is the vampire Nikolaos, and he is a competitive, emergent Mafia. When Kukri died, he took over and is probably now allied with Kagemusha. Both of them are killing.

Oh damned you got us completely.~:mecry:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Are you truly stumped, Pizza? Or is this strategery?

I feel that my play so far qualifies for the "strategery" label, unfortunately. I have not been good at guessing who will be attacked, nor have I been responsible for outing any mafia.

I will keep trying, as usual, but a lot of wind is knocked out of my sails.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I think we got one slave, and that Kukri was a pro town special role of some kind.

Kage is the best lynch atm I suppose.

[ULC]

I think it odd both Sasaki's behavior, and his theory about the Slaves abilities. They fit nicely into the little thought that Sasaki is a mafioso.

Course I haven't been following along that much, and there could be a key I am missing.

[Beefy187]

Can I vote Scienter, or is it another stupid move?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Can I vote Scienter, or is it another stupid move?

Vote Kage for now.

[Renata]

I think it odd both Sasaki's behavior, and his theory about the Slaves abilities. They fit nicely into the little thought that Sasaki is a mafioso.

Course I haven't been following along that much, and there could be a key I am missing.

Like the mafia having killed him several nights back?

[ULC]

Like the mafia having killed him several nights back?

Hey, let me entertain the thought D:

[TheFlax]

I'm not sure we can totally figure out with certainty what is going on, since we don't know the powers of the Ancient Vampire or the special role. As such, I'm not too sure about Renata's theory.

For this round I think we should try lynching Kagemusha and placing our top suspect in second place, like TinCow suggested earlier. At the very least, we get more information, at best, we lynch scum.

Vote: Kagemusha

[Sasaki Kojiro]

TheFlax needs to die on principle. No townie should even be that scummy.

[Beefy187]

Vote: Kagemusha

[Romanic]

*sigh*

Exactly Sasaki. I keep telling them how TheFlax is scummy, but they won't listen. :furious3:

[TheFlax]

TheFlax needs to die on principle. No townie should even be that scummy.

:laugh4: I'll make a memento out of that.

[Beefy187]

Never mind.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I think atheotes was the lynched mafioso. Unfortunately, we are still having two kills a night.

Let's get kage with the most votes, and TheFlax behind him. If kage is lynched, it should drop to one kill a night...if not we eliminate another suspect.

[Renata]

What makes you so confident the person with the second-most votes will die? Just because it happened last time? Beskar may have been targeted deliberately; it makes perfect sense if the Ancient Vampire (whoever he is or was) knows or guessed that Nikolaos (whoever that is or was) is a rival. Who commented on Beskar having claimed to be the special role? Will someone search on "Beskar" and "role" in this thread to see who might have been a little too interested in that possibility?

Maybe you should also be looking at who (besides The Stranger) had me down as a suspect right before I died. Methos, for instance, but there may have been others.

Edit: and all that said, there's no guarantee that Kagemusha can pull that off a second time. If he is the slave and Methos or someone else has taken over, there's no guarantee they'd have the same ability that Kukri had to deflect a lynch, though it's a possibility. Even if I'm completely wrong, it could have been a one-shot. I'd still rather see Kage vigged, though.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

What makes you so confident the person with the second-most votes will die? Just because it happened last time? Beskar may have been targeted deliberately; it makes perfect sense if the Ancient Vampire (whoever he is or was) knows or guessed that Nikolaos (whoever that is or was) is a rival. Who commented on Beskar having claimed to be the special role? Will someone search on "Beskar" and "role" in this thread to see who might have been a little too interested in that possibility?

Maybe you should also be looking at who (besides The Stranger) had me down as a suspect right before I died. Methos, for instance, but there may have been others.


What do you mean "so confidant"?

It could be a one-shot.
It could be a "switch to next highest"--actually, check YLC's game, I think Andres had this power or something like it in that game
It could be totally up to him

In the first two cases we should do as I suggested, in the last we have no control.

-edit-

This was the ability Andres had:


Once per day and only twice per game, you may lynch the person with the second most votes instead, or you may give pardon to a player and prevent their lynch. You cannot use this ability to save any player with the same alignment as yourself.

Now, that last bit "cannot save...same alignment" is what I was thinking when Kage was first lynched. But he hasn't reacted very townie.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Eh, I was going to make a big post going over everyone, but it's going to be crucial that the mafia kill off the more suspicious people.

[Renata]

What I'm trying to get at is if it is option 3 -- and we can't be sure it isn't -- maybe a vig on him would bypass the problem.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

What I'm trying to get at is if it is option 3 -- and we can't be sure it isn't -- maybe a vig on him would bypass the problem.

Well, if we had one to spare instead of having thrown it away on Kukri, I would say so. Kage should have been vigged that night.

If he's townie, got framed by the mafia, and isn't raising a stink then I will be annoyed...

I suppose I could go for a pevergreen lynch, and we could use the vig on Kage tonight.

Huh, I'm beginning to think that the ancient vampire is really very little like the Godfather of the other games. OP says we have to lynch all the mafiosi.

[Choxorn]

Well, we don't know how it works, so we really need to find out, which we can if we attempt to lynch Kage.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Hmm, I really think Beefy should be the lynch today.

[Diana Abnoba]

To me it sounds like we need to lynch Kage today. At least it will test a lot of the theories going around. But make sure that we put someone we think is guilty 2nd in line. Make sure only 2 people are in the running today for the lynch. This will also test how Kage's lynch immune power works.

Vote Kage in the #1 spot
Vote say Split in the 2nd spot (if he is lynched-we may loose a townie- but he's an inactive one at least) {or pick someone else}

We need Kage at least 3-4 votes over Split, so no more than 6 total votes on him.

Ya know this just may bite us, maybe just have only votes on Kage, and see what happens. I can see the mafia putting votes on Kage and changing them last minute.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Lynch beefy; vig kage. It may be a waste to lynch him again, and now we have a good suspect to go after in Beefy.

[Beskar]

What makes you so confident the person with the second-most votes will die? Just because it happened last time? Beskar may have been targeted deliberately; it makes perfect sense if the Ancient Vampire (whoever he is or was) knows or guessed that Nikolaos (whoever that is or was) is a rival. Who commented on Beskar having claimed to be the special role? Will someone search on "Beskar" and "role" in this thread to see who might have been a little too interested in that possibility?


That would have been TinCow.

[Kagemusha]

That would have been TinCow.

Unfortunately we lost Tincow in one of these tragic accidents.:disappointed:

[The Stranger]

methos should die. beefy and pever also good targets.

[The Stranger]

andres u forgot to put my lynch, day nine conclusion, in the summary thread.

[The Stranger]

What do you mean "so confidant"?

It could be a one-shot.
It could be a "switch to next highest"--actually, check YLC's game, I think Andres had this power or something like it in that game
It could be totally up to him

In the first two cases we should do as I suggested, in the last we have no control.

-edit-

This was the ability Andres had:



Now, that last bit "cannot save...same alignment" is what I was thinking when Kage was first lynched. But he hasn't reacted very townie.

maybe andres implemented something similar, but just took out the "cannot save...same alignment" part. it is a different game after all...

[pevergreen]

Rekilldeadperson: The Stranger

Vote: Split

[Kagemusha]

Rekilldeadperson: The Stranger

Vote: Split

So Split is the guilty one? Im convinced. Vote: Split

[pevergreen]

I tie your longevity into the liklihood of Finland appearing in my current EU3 game. Since I want the map to look like the real world, I need you alive.

[Diamondeye]

vote:Kagemusha

If we decide upon another course of action (ie vig Kage and lynch someone else), I'll be around to change it.
We need active voters. I'm looking at Spl1t, pever and AA here :stare:. Having three basically inactive people in the final ten is not optimal :angry:

[Beefy187]

Lynch beefy; vig kage. It may be a waste to lynch him again, and now we have a good suspect to go after in Beefy.

No ones voting me? I'm offended.

I would rather die now, then be the last three or so remaining to make the hard choice...

[Beefy187]

Unvote, Vote: Beefy

Sorry

[Secura]

Having three basically inactive people in the final ten is not optimal :angry:

Which is what mafia count on, no?

Kill off the people who analyse, scrutinise and above all post; leave the non-committal players alive so that it's hard for town to muster those vital votes in end-game. :/

[Beskar]

hence why both Mafia and players should always kill Lurkers first on principle.

[TheFlax]

Yeah, we're having a really poor showing.

I'm fine with Sasaki's plan. Vote: Beefy. I'll still be around if that needs changing, but since my dad is visiting, I don't want to spend too much time on the Org.

[TheFlax]

That would be, Unvote, Vote: Beefy. Sorry.

[Kagemusha]

So Beefy thinks that he should die. Who are we to deny him that.Unvote and Vote: Beefy

[The Stranger]

if you decide to test kages lynch immunity. dont forget to keep track of his vote. it might not be so that the 2nd person gets lynched instead of him but the person he voted for.

[KukriKhan]

if you decide to test kages lynch immunity. dont forget to keep track of his vote. it might not be so that the 2nd person gets lynched instead of him but the person he voted for.

One dead guy to another: You think Kagemusha is that cagey?

[The Stranger]

i dont get it. wjat does cagey mean? :P but it might be his power. since he did vote for beskar, we cannot exclude that possibility

[TinCow]

I recommend a straight lynch of Kage. We know he's scum, so lynch the scum.

[KukriKhan]

i dont get it. wjat does cagey mean? :P but it might be his power. since he did vote for beskar, we cannot exclude that possibility

☆ ca·gey or cagy ca′gy (kā′jē)

sly; tricky; cunning
careful not to get caught or fooled

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I recommend a straight lynch of Kage. We know he's scum, so lynch the scum.

We can use the vig on him.

[TinCow]

We can use the vig on him.

Vig give him another night to kill. Lynch (if successful) does not.


Lynch beefy; vig kage. It may be a waste to lynch him again, and now we have a good suspect to go after in Beefy.

What makes Beefy a good suspect? You totally flipflopped here, and no one has even made a case against Beefy today so I don't see where this sudden shift is coming from.

[Scienter]

Vote: Kagemusha, we've let him live long enough. Let's see if he'll actually die this time. Sorry I wasn't more active yesterday, we had a dinner party and I was cooking for a lot of people.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vig give him another night to kill. Lynch (if successful) does not.

Yes. If successful. Who knows what that lightening power is? On the other hand it's possible he has a one-shot lynch immunity and a one-shot vig immunity, although that would be cruel since the town only has two vigs to start with. So the current state isn't so bad.


What makes Beefy a good suspect? You totally flipflopped here, and no one has even made a case against Beefy today so I don't see where this sudden shift is coming from.

Private discussion with Renata, which I won't go into so as not to tell the mafia who to kill.

[TheFlax]

While there was no case on Beefy, he's been a suspect of several people for a few rounds now.

I'm going to switch back to Vote: Kagemusha, since its pretty close and it seems lynching him is the plan today. Sorry for "flipflopping".

[Splitpersonality]

Vote: Beefy

A vig on Kage seems like a better idea, we don't want to chanc a wasted lynch, no?

[Double A]

Split, why don't we vote: Kage and then vig Beef Monster?

[Splitpersonality]

Hasn't kage already survived one lynching?

[Kagemusha]

Split, why don't we vote: Kage and then vig Beef Monster?

Because Beefy is guilty and needs to die. I on the other hand am just an innocent reporter.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Some people (TheFlax) aren't unvoting before they cast new votes.

[Methos]

Vote: Kage

[Diana Abnoba]

pever please change your vote, we don't want 3 people in the lynch race only 2. Beefy or Kage.

Flax please unvote and vote again so your last vote will count.

Thanks

[TheFlax]

Some people (TheFlax) aren't unvoting before they cast new votes.

I forgot again... Unvote, Vote: Kagemusha.

[TinCow]

Yes. If successful. Who knows what that lightening power is? On the other hand it's possible he has a one-shot lynch immunity and a one-shot vig immunity, although that would be cruel since the town only has two vigs to start with. So the current state isn't so bad.

Yes, this does make sense. Going for a vig of Kage gets a thumbs up from me.

[Kagemusha]

So you are all absolutely sure this is a good idea?

[Diana Abnoba]

Tally:

Kage: 5 (Diamondeye, Scienter, Double A, Methos, The Flax)

Beefy: 3 (Kage, Split, Beefy,)

Split: 1 (pever)

*this needs to be double checked please*

[Romanic]

I liked how TheFlax did not unvote until he was told to.:laugh4:

Current tally is:

5 Kagemusha (Diamondeye, Scienter, Double A, Methos, TheFlax)
3 Beefy (Beefy, Kagemusha, Split)
1 Split (pever)

Edit: There's your double-check Diana. Flax did unvote.

[Diana Abnoba]

Thank you

[Diana Abnoba]

Sorry guys I need to get to work now, Andres will be doing the write up today (with an idea we talked about before). I hope all works out with this lynch (I won't know until the late morning when I'm back from work). Also everyone please PM me with suggestions for tonight's actions. Do we want to protect or use a Vig kill, and who do we want to do either action on. Thanks so much. :bow:

[Andres]

I don't know if I'll be in time when the round ends.

Deadline is 22h15 my time, that's exactly within 1h15 minutes from the timestamp of this post. Votes made after that deadline will not be counted.

:bow:

[TheFlax]

I liked how TheFlax did not unvote until he was told to.:laugh4:

Yeah, this is not my best day... I almost forgot to unvote for my vote switch to Beefy also, earlier. I'm mostly cruising on autopilot today, my head is ringing. Thanks for the tally.

[Kagemusha]

Well i guess its the time to put on the best suite and prepare to meet ones maker.:bow:I think i still need to point out to certain player though. Unvote and Vote: Scienter

[Andres]

Day 11 - Conclusion

https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Daggers%20in%20the%20Night/P9150330.jpg


During most of the day, most Daggers stayed silent. Some whispers could be heard in the wind, but the living remained silent. At the end of the day, though, all had voted.

The Naib looked briefly at her notes. "There isn't much to count nowadays," she thought by herself, a sad look on her face.

Diana looked up and watched Kagemusha straight in the eyes. A sigh of relief could be heard from the man who ate 5 steaks a day.

“The decision has been made. You, Kagemusha, will die today.”

Kagemusha was very pale. Allthough the previous time he had been in this position things turned out very good for him, he didn't feel so comfortable now.

“Fear not, after the last execution, I have decided to make this one as painless as possible," the Naib said.

Suddenly a mobile phone went off. The Naib stared at Scienter, murmuring “you, of all people.”

Scienter blushed and quickly switched off the damnable device. “Sorry about that,” she said, silently.

“As I said, I have this painless…”

Another phone went off. The Naib was tapping her feet in a high tempo and sending angry looks at Diamondeye. “Ehm, hm, eh,” he said, quickly switching off his phone. “So sorry.”

The Naib inhaled and continued: “As I said…”

"Ring-Ring-Ring!"

pevergreen looked very embarrassed and switched off his phone, whispering a silent “sorry” while he suddenly stared at something very interesting, somewhere near his feet or so.

Barely managing to stay calm, Diana continued.

“As I said…” she paused. “Good, I take it that was the last interruption. I have decided to perform a painless…”

"Ring-ring-ring!".

Kagemusha picked up his phone and immediately started a lively conversation about how he was right in the middle of an important meeting, yeah, you know how it is, work, work, work, for 10 hours straight, 7 days a week, and yes, the weather was nice and…

The Generalife trembled as Diana screamed and yelled, outraged, frustrated, her head as red as a tomato.

“Screw painless executions!”

She ran towards Kagemusha, carrying a whip and with one lash, his phone floated through the air. Two more lashes and Kagemusha was already crying.

Diana ordered two daggers to tie him up.

“I’ll start with 30 lashes!”

After that was done, she asked for salt. Kagemusha, bleeding out of numerous wounds, was almost unconscious and didn't notice what was going on.

“Let this be a lesson for all of you cellphone addicts!”

The Naib poured the salt into the fresh wounds, causing Kagemusha to scream and beg for mercy.

Diana cruelly waited for 10 minutes, then picked up the screaming man and threw him on a woodpile. Pouring gasoline over him, she laughed.

“Here’s your cellphone back!” she yelled, and she threw it on the pile. Then she turned to the daggers and yelled: “All of you, throw all your cellphones on this pile, NOW!”

Too afraid to refuse, the daggers threw their cellphones on the pile.

The Naib smiled sardonically.

"As soon as one of the phones rings, the electrical spark will cause a nice big “Bang!” and then it’ll be over with this nonsense," she said, smiling triomphantically. Sombody caughed. "Oh yes, and Kagemusha will die too," she added quickly, as if it was of minor importance.

Only two minutes later, Kage’s phone went off again and there he went, in 5 meter high flames.

The Naib nodded in approval. Finally, this cellphone nonsense...

The daggers stared at a man standing in the corner.

Kagemusha was as surprised as they were, but quickly, he regained control over himself and started to laugh. There wasn't a scratch on him.

The Naib slowly walked towards the ashes; her knees trembling. She kneeled down and found Scienters' ring.

"Again!"


***

Tally:


Kagemusha Scienter : 5 (Scienter, Diamondeye, Methos, Double A, TheFlax) :skull:

Beefy187: 2 (Beefy187, splitpersonality)
splipersonality : 1 (pevergreen)
Scienter: 1 (Kagemusha)

Not voting: 1 (Diana Abnoba (Naib))


Alive (9)

1. TheFlax
2. Diana Abnoba
3. Double A
4. Methos
5. spL1tp3r50naL1ty
6. Beefy187
7. Kagemusha
8. pevergreen
9. DiamondEye

Killed (20)

autolycus
Yaropolk
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ibn-Khaldun
Psychonaut
Sasaki Kojiro
Yaseikhaan
Peasant Phill
Death is yonder
YLC
Secura
Captain Blackadder
GreyBlades
Niklas
TinCow
Kukrikhan
Renata
Choxorn
Jolt

Lynched (10)

Csargo
Askthepizzaguy
Seon
GeneralHankerchief
White_Eyes:D
Romanic
atheotes
Beskar
The Stranger
Scienter

WoG (1)
AVSM


***

It's now night. PM's please. +/- 23 hours.

:bow:

[Kagemusha]

I guess i have been born under lucky stars. Please be gentle with your vig attempt on me.These whip wounds are bad already.~:(

[TheFlax]

So it seems whoever is voted by Kagemusha is lynched instead of him.

[Choxorn]

Well, now we know how it works, it switches to whoever Kage votes for. Thanks for that last minute vote switch revealing that, Kage! :2thumbsup:

[Kagemusha]

Well, now we know how it works, it switches to whoever Kage votes for. Thanks for that last minute vote switch revealing that, Kage! :2thumbsup:

Im glad if i could be of any assistance!~:)

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Lynch beefy; vig kage. It was not that hard!

Let us examine the kage voters.

[The Stranger]

ooooh i knew it.

i dont want to say i told you so, but i told you so.

[The Stranger]

So it seems whoever is voted by Kagemusha is lynched instead of him.

yes... as i thought already.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well, it's nice to be right about some things.

I think the whole Beefy thing is WIFOM. Kage wants us to vig Beefy and then try for him again.

[The Stranger]

i was right
i was right
i was right
i was right
i was right
i was right
i was right
i was right
i was right

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote: Kage

This is the other mafioso. Methos and Kage are the final two. Vig kage, lynch methos tomorrow.

[TinCow]

This is the other mafioso. Methos and Kage are the final two. Vig kage, lynch methos tomorrow.

I agree with this.

[The Stranger]

vig kage?
like he will die then... wth are you guys thinking.

[Scienter]

I agree with this.

Me too. Nice of Kage to reveal like that. :P

[Beskar]

I love OP roles.

[Methos]

Sasaki you are an idiot. Were told to all vote one way yet when we do were considered as guilty because of it.

The update was hilarious considering I read it on my cellphone.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sasaki you are an idiot. Were told to all vote one way yet when we do were considered as guilty because of it.

The update was hilarious considering I read it on my cellphone.

READING GAME ON CELLPHONE = GUILTY

[Methos]

The fact that Kage posted just before the update seems suspicios to me. I'm thinking he faked it to get us to believe it's who he voted.

[Romanic]

"I know who is the other mafia, it's...." Ring-Ring-Ring! :laugh4:

[Kagemusha]

Please dont vig me.Im just a honest poor reporter trying to make a buck.:shame:

[TinCow]

The fact that Kage posted just before the update seems suspicios to me. I'm thinking he faked it to get us to believe it's who he voted.

Really? Something Kage did was suspicious? What an interesting perspective.

This is a classic example of scum trying to find something useful to 'analyze' and failing. I'm very content with a Methos lynch tomorrow. :yes:

[Methos]

Wow, you guys are hilarious. Answer me this, if I'm scum, then why was I signing on with my phone to check tonights update? If I was scum, wouldn't I already know how it would turn out? Or is that question too difficult for you all to consider?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Wow, you guys are hilarious. Answer me this, if I'm scum, then why was I signing on with my phone to check tonights update? If I was scum, wouldn't I already know how it would turn out? Or is that question too difficult for you all to consider?

Just keep digging.

[Askthepizzaguy]

He's got a point though.

After Mafia IX, I don't think Methos would repeat Subotan's mistake. Methos was in mafia IX (I seem to recall someone making a big case against him that turned out to be wrong :creep:) and he's aware of the dangers of posting from his phone.

[naut]

Lol. Methos is digging a hole. Regardless of what he is you should kill him. Anyone posting that scummily should die, no matter what they are. Call it: an Occupational Hazard.

[Askthepizzaguy]

After the game, I wonder if everyone I said was innocent would please step forward and shake my hand. And then the part where I said lynching Kage again so soon was a waste of time. Maybe Kage could give me a slap on the back for being a good sport about being ignored.

Nevermind. I will just eat my popcorn and enjoy the fireworks. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/popcorn.gif

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Maybe we should lynch Kage a couple more times. We could break the centurion record.

[Beefy187]

Ok guys you had your chance.
Since we lost Scienter and approaching late game, we can't afford to make any mistakes.

How to not make one?

Simple. Don't lynch or vig me because I'm townie.
I know I've been pretty useless all game, but lynching me will be terrible for the town and my self.

[naut]

Ok guys you had your chance.
Since we lost Scienter and approaching late game, we can't afford to make any mistakes.

How to not make one?

Simple. Don't lynch or vig me because I'm townie.
I know I've been pretty useless all game, but lynching me will be terrible for the town and my self.
Soft claim? Lynch Beefy too.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Whats up with all this WIFOM from Pizza, Beskar and Sasaki... it is only going to confuse the town :whip:

If i were to pick 2 henchemen, i would have gone for
1. Someone who could take care of themselves if pressured - Sasaki, Pizza or Tincow
2. Someone who has staying power - Jooray, pever, Beefy etc.

Interesting.


:yes: Here is a quote from Flax, that can be seen in my profile page

Wants Flax dead.


if you think he is scum, why havent you changed your vote? :inquisitive:

Vote:GeneralHankerchief

Tincow has also been quieter than usual and looks scummy - perhaps i am clouded by my opinion that he would make be a good choice as a henchman.
Beefy's posts have been quite neutral so far...

Mentions Beefy, but never ever follows up on it. Neutral stance implies that he doesn't really want Beefy dead.


you were trying to create a tie with 3 votes? :inquisitive:

here is the tally for that phase:
White_Eyes:D: 5 (TinCow, atheotes, Romanic, TheFlax, Diana Abnoba)

Beskar: 2 (Captain Blackadder, The Stranger)
The Stranger: 2 (Beskar, Choxorn)
Romanic: 2 (White_Eyes:D, Beefy187)
Beefy187: 2 (Jolt, pevergreen)
Kagemusha: 2 (YLC, Secura)

your plans would have been foiled by me if i had voted for any of the five :laugh4:
If you wanted a tie, why didnt you say it in the thread along with any case you had? Surely that would have been a better way to achieve that instead of hoping no one votes for any of these people...

But i do agree that Flax is behaving outside his norm...and is in my list of suspicious people along with Beskar, Tincow and yourself :beam:

Wants Flax dead.



Conclusions:

pevergreen or Beefy is likely to be his partner.


http://slowwolf.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/tom-tucker.jpg

This just in... Kagemusha is awesome.

for picking you as mafia?


I missed it the first time, this quote saw it.

Vote: The Stranger

I expect better.

But you said the day before that he always acts like this. Kind of like how you always act a certain way.


He doesnt gain credibility by being lynched.

:beam:

Unvote: Saskai, Vote: Beefy

Vote Beefy? pever? So soon? And over Sasaki no less? WTHeck?


Maybe he wont get more than 400 posts as well. I'll do my part to limit his post count.

Unvote: beefy, Vote: ATPG

Votes for ATPG whenever it is possible to kill me as town or mafia.


I wish. :rolleyes:

Denies he could ever be picked as a slave.


:laugh4:

Star Wars mafia is the only game in 3 years where i have survived until the end.

The last mafia game (GH's mafia) is the second longest I've survived. I die midgame, all the time. Early sometimes, but not often. Unless I'm scum, then I die early. :laugh4:

Tries really hard to defend himself, which is unusual for him. Gives reasons why he wouldn't be picked, or talks about his record of survival.

Why so serious, pevergreen? It's odd for you to be serious about anything, least of all yourself.


We could let him live because TS havn't played mafia for a while and because we're nice bunch who treats returnees well

Unlike the other scum who wanted to vote for The Stranger so that they blend in, Beefy doesn't.


Then again, I forgot that each henchmen get a kill... So if one of them dies, kills drops to one?

Ok then maybe not ATPG, unless atheotes theory is correct.

I still suspect Renata though.

At this point atheotes is toast and will be proven mafia in short order. Beefy unwittingly associates himself with atheotes' reasoning, which would make him look worse in just a round or two.

A mafia would likely retain a more distant posture, especially after it is too late to save atheotes. Better is to disassociate.


Unvote, Vote: Beefy

Sorry

If Beefy is involved with Kagemusha, then the plan is for Kagemusha to get lynched so that Kagemusha can kill whoever he feels like. So Beefy should go with the crowd and vote for Kagemusha.

Then, if Beefy is involved with Kagemusha, the objective is to make sure that Beefy DOES NOT get the top vote. That would be extremely bad for their entire team.

So Beefy's move here doesn't make any sense as mafia for two reasons, especially since it is very very very likely to backfire since many people have been calling for his head for several rounds.



Ok guys you had your chance.
Since we lost Scienter and approaching late game, we can't afford to make any mistakes.

How to not make one?

Simple. Don't lynch or vig me because I'm townie.
I know I've been pretty useless all game, but lynching me will be terrible for the town and my self.

Nothing Beefy has done all game has been out of character. He admits he has been off the mark, but he is still trying to prevent us from making a bad move. Which is what townie beefy would try to do, as he knows wasting a vig on him would be absolutely horrendous for the team.

He's alive because he's not a threat to the mafia because he's never sure who to vote for, and because he's not aggressive. He's also one who will vote himself when under pressure. There's been suspicion on him for several rounds, so again, why kill Beefy.

He's not the best of the best choice for slave henchman because he's often murdered if he isn't lynched by the mid-game. He also is not aggressive so it is harder for him to convincingly play the part when the situation requires it, which as a mafioso, you would be in several such situations.

pevergreen on the other hand can basically sit on his thumb for rounds at a time with no suspicion on him no matter what he does. He's also very unlikely to be suspected as being chosen as a slave, given recent games and some unpleasantness involved. He can accuse anyone at any time for any reason and it will never raise an eyebrow, because he's not expected to play seriously. His survival is never suspect because he often is contrary to whatever is popular, usually on purpose, so he's never really a threat to the scums. Thus when he's not murdered it doesn't seem out of place.

Kagemusha is also someone who would choose pevergreen because he is someone who thinks very hard about who he would choose for his partner. He realizes that pevergreen would be an ideal candidate in this game because of the fact that he's never suspicious even when he's doing things which are horrendously bad, and he doesn't attract votes or even murders. He also realizes the situation here in the gameroom where pever would be less likely to be recruited by anyone.... anyone but Kagemusha, really.

Kagemusha has made no attempt all game to get rid of pevergreen by the vote or by accusation.

atheotes has made no attempt all game to get rid of pevergreen by the vote or by accusation.

Always unserious and uncaring pevergreen suddenly bristles at the mention that someone might have recruited him. it's the only time this entire game he's been actually serious.

Why so serious, pevergreen? Even a single serious post from you is cause for alarm.






I would bet the farm that pevergreen was recruited by Kagemusha. In any case I believe that pevergreen is a liability and will be utterly uncooperative in the endgame anyway.

The one fatal flaw in your strategy pevergreen is that you prove to be no big loss when you die, and a liability when you're alive. So do us all a favor and die.

Good game though, Kagemusha. I admire your talented performance. Just remember I never once bought your Sahara News act and I was crawling up your butt all game.

[Niklas]

Excellent analysis Pizza. :bow:

[Secura]

The one fatal flaw in your strategy pevergreen is that you prove to be no big loss when you die, and a liability when you're alive. So do us all a favor and die.

That's just said in the spirit of the game... right?


Good game though, Kagemusha. I admire your talented performance. Just remember I never once bought your Sahara News act and I was crawling up your butt all game.

You can add YLC and I to that; we died voting for him! :P

[Kagemusha]

That's just said in the spirit of the game... right?



You can add YLC and I to that; we died voting for him! :P

According to our experts you and YLC died in unsuccessfull WIFOM.:tongue3:

[The Stranger]

pever should die. pever should always die. if i couldve, i wouldve killed him already.

[Diamondeye]

I only just read up on this at school after an exam, and I have a theoretical driver's test to prepare myself for tomorrow. After that test I'll be around more again.

Diana, I think you should vigilante kill pevergreen or Kagemusha, our two top suspects. I don't think Kage is immune to vigilante kills as per TinCow's analysis, but by the same reason it goes that he should not be killable only by vig. That'd be ridiculous. If you're convinced pever is the last slave, I'd say you should vig him and we lynch Kagemusha tomorrow, when he can be lynched.

[Secura]

According to our experts you and YLC died in unsuccessfull WIFOM.:tongue3:

Yep, that would be the case!

At least now everyone knows your scumtells for certain; you will accuse me and/or Renata of picking on you! :P

[Kagemusha]

Yep, that would be the case!

At least now everyone knows your scumtells for certain; you will accuse me and/or Renata of picking on you! :P

Maybe you should consider why i did what i did?~;)

[pevergreen]

Why so serious, pevergreen? It's odd for you to be serious about anything, least of all yourself.

pevergreen on the other hand can basically sit on his thumb for rounds at a time with no suspicion on him no matter what he does. He's also very unlikely to be suspected as being chosen as a slave, given recent games and some unpleasantness involved. He can accuse anyone at any time for any reason and it will never raise an eyebrow, because he's not expected to play seriously. His survival is never suspect because he often is contrary to whatever is popular, usually on purpose, so he's never really a threat to the scums. Thus when he's not murdered it doesn't seem out of place.

Kagemusha is also someone who would choose pevergreen because he is someone who thinks very hard about who he would choose for his partner. He realizes that pevergreen would be an ideal candidate in this game because of the fact that he's never suspicious even when he's doing things which are horrendously bad, and he doesn't attract votes or even murders. He also realizes the situation here in the gameroom where pever would be less likely to be recruited by anyone.... anyone but Kagemusha, really.

Kagemusha has made no attempt all game to get rid of pevergreen by the vote or by accusation.

atheotes has made no attempt all game to get rid of pevergreen by the vote or by accusation.

Always unserious and uncaring pevergreen suddenly bristles at the mention that someone might have recruited him. it's the only time this entire game he's been actually serious.

Why so serious, pevergreen? Even a single serious post from you is cause for alarm.

I would bet the farm that pevergreen was recruited by Kagemusha. In any case I believe that pevergreen is a liability and will be utterly uncooperative in the endgame anyway.

The one fatal flaw in your strategy pevergreen is that you prove to be no big loss when you die, and a liability when you're alive. So do us all a favor and die.

People need to stop looking at one persons case and then deciding that what they say is proof...

Here is the peverspecial: The 1am defence! :beam:

You're right, over the recent time with the gradual player shift, I've become a much lower priority target. I remember when I was a high profile target...though I'm not sure why I was.

I do like this though:


He can accuse anyone at any time for any reason and it will never raise an eyebrow, because he's not expected to play seriously. His survival is never suspect because he often is contrary to whatever is popular, usually on purpose, so he's never really a threat to the scums.

Spent a lot of time building this up. :yes: I gave up one trying to build actual cases on people when everyone ignored my posts constantly for about 6 months. Its just a habit now, I know what I post is either skimmed over or not actually judged, so I can pretty much sprout anything I feel like. Same in the backroom.

I don't see why Kage would go for me as a pick though, if he is the main guy. Coming off the flak I've gotten for star wars, I would have thought I'd die pretty early, or at least be targeted early by a scumconsul. :wink:

I'm uncooperative sometimes because I actively resist the playstyle of many other players, which is sit back and let you/sasaki/TC and a few others do the big fancy posts, then agree with whatever you say...kind of like what is happening here.

I can say two more things: 1. If I had been following this game as I should have, out of respect to Andres, my activity would be a lot more even. 2. Why so personal at the end there?


That's just said in the spirit of the game... right?
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/U3zJJcRzknA/0.jpg
IT DOESN'T MATTER.

Either way its true.


pever should die. pever should always die. if i couldve, i wouldve killed him already.


You will never get over the first two CDTC games will you? I only remember 3 things from CDTC, and you aren't in any of them.


Diana, I think you should vigilante kill pevergreen or Kagemusha, our two top suspects.

HALP IM GUNNA DIE.

[The Stranger]

actually i love you pever,

that is why you are my favorite character to kill.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I only just read up on this at school after an exam, and I have a theoretical driver's test to prepare myself for tomorrow. After that test I'll be around more again.

Diana, I think you should vigilante kill pevergreen or Kagemusha, our two top suspects. I don't think Kage is immune to vigilante kills as per TinCow's analysis, but by the same reason it goes that he should not be killable only by vig. That'd be ridiculous. If you're convinced pever is the last slave, I'd say you should vig him and we lynch Kagemusha tomorrow, when he can be lynched.

Are you serious DE!? ~:mad~:mad~:mad~:mad~:mad~:mad

If we end up using both of our vig kills on someone other than known mafia, and waste a lynch on him instead...

[Diamondeye]

Are you serious DE!? ~:mad~:mad~:mad~:mad~:mad~:mad

If we end up using both of our vig kills on someone other than known mafia, and waste a lynch on him instead...

I am thinking that Kagemusha is untouchable unless we get his minion first. Hence, killing the minion (it could be pevergreen as ATPG suggested) first would be a better solution than wasting our last vigilante kill, right?

If you have reason to believe Kagemusha has lost his invulnerability-like ability since the lynch, a vigilante kill attempt on him is of course the way to go. I'm just not sure I'd be willing to risk the game on that.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I am thinking that Kagemusha is untouchable unless we get his minion first. Hence, killing the minion (it could be pevergreen as ATPG suggested) first would be a better solution than wasting our last vigilante kill, right?

If you have reason to believe Kagemusha has lost his invulnerability-like ability since the lynch, a vigilante kill attempt on him is of course the way to go. I'm just not sure I'd be willing to risk the game on that.

You think Andres gave us only 2 vig shots, and made the main bad guy unviggable? Of course, we should have tested it with the first shot. But, there is likely no way to know if we hit the minion. We could hit the minion and then try lynching him for a few days, worried about trying to hit kage. We could not hit the minion, see a drop in kills, try to lynch kage, and fail. So it is best to vig kage.

Methos is probably the minion.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Response to pevergreen;


People need to stop looking at one persons case and then deciding that what they say is proof...

Translation: "And apparently, ATPG is always right..."

You know, I have to admit there probably is some latent dissatisfaction with the situation where if I make a big case on someone, right or wrong, they generally do die. I am sure that's annoying to people, especially when I am wrong. Or to those who made the exact same case 5 rounds prior, but perhaps not quite as perspicuously. I'm sure they hate being ignored.

How many times have I accused someone where someone like YLC or Renata or Secura was there first, but their cases were ignored? Perhaps people do give undue weight behind what I say. And I am sure that frustration manifests itself when I accuse you. But, there's another thing: Most of the mafia I ever accuse react the same way: playing off of that particular frustration or doubt as a defense. "Come on guys, you're really not going to just sit back and listen to ATPG, are you?".

What do you expect their reaction to be? All of a sudden people will realize that they've got to grab their pitchforks and torches and go home? Join hands and say to each other, "he's right.... let's never listen to ATPG again...." It doesn't really work though, and that is why I am amused when it keeps being used as a defense.

You know what really worked as a defense? Look back to how atheotes reacted when I started accusing him in Star Wars: RotS. There was almost no reaction, no righteous indignation, and he waited for my own bad, assumption-based case to fall apart. He pointed out one flaw in my reasoning after like an hour of accusing him, which if he were mafia he would have used against me right away. When you're mafia the idea is to make your accuser look incompetent or wrong as best you can... not leave a lifeline like that on the table. He could have just whipped it out in reaction, but there was no real pressure for him to do so because I was wrong about him. But there is usually very little patience and calmness when I'm right about someone. The immediacy of the situation prompts mafia to "empty their clips" at me to stop the attack. It requires almost a totally inverted psychological state to patiently deconstruct. Some people have it in them to do so, but even then they rarely leave a good opening unused. Discrediting the accuser is very important in a game where emotion and instinct plays as big a part as logic does, and instinctively mafia tend to go right for that move.

It's why I dropped my case against atheotes like a sack of potatoes. Not only was I wrong about many different facts, but atheotes' reaction was cool as ice, and my accusation did not trigger any sort of immediate discrediting attempt on his part. That's a major difference between the usual townie reaction and the usual scum reaction. And never-serious pevergreen's reaction was to go straight for the instinctive, reflexive discrediting... or playing on the sympathies of others I may have accused and been wrong about. It gets to be so reflexive that I cannot help but admire those players who can resist the urge. It actually makes my job much more difficult when they do. Kagemusha is one of those players who would be unlikely to get flustered by me, and yet even in this game he flinched a bit. I am actually surprised that you reacted this way... you're nothing if not unique. It's very odd to see you acting like every other ordinary scumbag...


Here is the peverspecial: The 1am defence! :beam:

y so srs?


You're right, over the recent time with the gradual player shift, I've become a much lower priority target. I remember when I was a high profile target...though I'm not sure why I was.

I can only imagine what you'd be like as townie if you were still in old pevergreen mode and you were still trying. I would like to see that again. You obviously have skills as mafia, or else you wouldn't be able to pull of such a performance like in this game without acting slightly off from your usual. And if you have skills as mafia then you understand mafia enough to be a competent townie.

If I am right about you, which admittedly is an assumption (not much of a leap though... process of elimination is kind of kicking your butt here... should have killed certain people by now...) then my main critique would be that you played the unserious card too much. In these final rounds even you usually make an attempt to vote for a real suspect. Voting for splitpersonality last round was just bad karma.


Spent a lot of time building this up. :yes: I gave up one trying to build actual cases on people when everyone ignored my posts constantly for about 6 months. Its just a habit now, I know what I post is either skimmed over or not actually judged, so I can pretty much sprout anything I feel like. Same in the backroom.

Yep... that's your thing, kind of like Csargo being a constant lurker and not responding even when his life is on the line. People have different styles and most of it has a place in the gameroom. Obviously your style is to great advantage when you're mafia. You might suffer a little backlash in the early game if you are guilty here though, as is the usual custom.


I don't see why Kage would go for me as a pick though, if he is the main guy. Coming off the flak I've gotten for star wars, I would have thought I'd die pretty early, or at least be targeted early by a scumconsul. :wink:

@ bolding: Smooth. Didn't want to confirm or deny, did you?

You don't see yourself as being valuable to the team as mafia, even though I said a couple months back that you'd be an excellent mafia, since you can just creep by. Surely someone such as Kagemusha would see that. Even if you only managed to survive 2/3 of the way through the game, that's a bankable asset to a team that needs slaves to be alive as long as possible.

Also interesting to note is that there has been absolutely zero pressure on you vote-wise all game long, and no indication until now that anyone even considered you a suspect. Yet you've never been attacked by the mafia... after at least a couple of large games straight where you seemed to last until the very end or very near it. You haven't been distracting, really... not like The Stranger had been. And the odds of a mafia dying go up every round, especially if you're innocent and there's zero pressure on you. A wise mafioso would have killed you by now. You have been getting a pass to do whatever you please... surely they would have seen that and eliminated you to keep as many suspects or potential lynchees alive as possible. Especially since it is highly unlikely that the Naib is defending you at night.


I'm uncooperative sometimes because I actively resist the playstyle of many other players, which is sit back and let you/sasaki/TC and a few others do the big fancy posts, then agree with whatever you say...kind of like what is happening here.

Well.... you can't really blame others for their wagoning playstyle when yours is to sit back and essentially waste your own vote on people who won't get lynched. You'll admit it isn't particularly useful for a townie to do... you're really just protesting what you perceive as mindless bandwagoning or trusting certain self-anointed leaders. It's more of a political statement than anything else.

But, you would have more of a point if you had been making more pointed accusations at people from time to time. It's ironic that your form of protest actually helps enable that kind of groupthink in others, because you don't offer much of an alternative by way of accusing suspects, and your vote when placed on someone obviously not going to be lynched, like splitpersonality, is just as "bad" as one placed on the end of a long bandwagon on kagemusha, let's say. It doesn't affect the outcome in the slightest. I get that you're doing it for a reason, but the goal you have in mind can never be achieved this way.


I can say two more things: 1. If I had been following this game as I should have, out of respect to Andres, my activity would be a lot more even.

How do you mean? Your activity was very even. You were a constant, if unnoticed, presence.


2. Why so personal at the end there?


It's not personal, it's just business.

If I critique your strategy it is for in-game purposes only. This has no bearing on who you are outside of the game and IRL.

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HALP IM GUNNA DIE.

And back in character. We've gone full circle, from unserious to srs to unserious again. But here, it feels painted on. (A more logical argument you'll never find, surely. :wink:)

If I am right, I will claim that I used the force and searched my feelings, and sensed the dark side in you.

If I am wrong, I'm blaming Peasant Phill. Somehow this must be all his fault...

[Andres]

Night 11 - Conclusion

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Song to accompany write-up :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pb1muoEen4&feature=related

The moon was purple. A rare phenomenon, associated by some with the end of times.

"Wake up!"

One of the nearby graves started to tremble.

"Wake up, slave!"

Hands crawled through the dirt.

"Come! Wake up, slave!"

Finally, the body appeared, holding its' head in its' hands.

"Good. Put on your head and come over here."

The corpse obeyed and walked over to the master.

"Good, slave. Now listen... Tonight, you will go on a..."


***

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Steak. He was dying for a decent steak. Screw security measures. He wanted steak! He had come all the way from Japan to this place and after 11 days, he now wanted his steak. NOW!

And so, Beefy187 was found, walking the streets of Sacromonte, looking for a decent restaurant where he could eat steak! Real steak! He heard the sauce made of cabrales cheese was delicious. He wanted steak! Saignant! With cabrales cheese. Not kangaroo steak, he had more than enough of that in Australia; no, a real steak! Beef! He wasn't called Beefy for nothing!

As he was walking down the streets, drooling and craving for beef, he didn't notice the dark figure sneaking up on him.

Finally, Beefy187 found a restaurant and hey, they had steak on the menu! With cabrales sauce! With a discount, especially for tourists! He could have two steaks for the price of one!

He couldn't wait to enter the restaurant, but alas, fate was cruel for this fine young man. As he was about to enter, a wooden club hit him on the head.

He fell down, barely conscious.

"No, not now! Couldn't you wait for an hour or so? Two steaks. That was all I wanted! Two st..."

The swing of a sword ended his hallucinations of giant steaks bathing in cabrales sauce.

The killer looked at the beheaded body, bowed and reached for Beefy's wallet. He looked up and saw the announcement at the restaurant.

"Hmmm... steak with cabrales sauce!"

The killer entered the restaurant.


***

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"Ah mon lit! Comme je suis fatigué!" our friendly Canadian dagger said to himself.

Reaching for the only Francophone magazine in his hotelroom, TheFlax turned on the television, when he heard a "mooo" sound.

He shrugged. "Meh, ces espagnoles avec leur bêtises!"

"Moooo!"

The sound seemed to come from the inside of the building.

"Mais, qu'est-ce que c'est? Une vache dans l'hôtel?" TheFlax said, annoyed, and he walked over to the door.

"MOOOO!" loud now.

TheFlax was too curious and opened the door of his room. In front of him stood TinCow.

"Mais, tu es mort!"

"Moooooo!" was TinCows' reply and he grabbed TheFlax by his throat with a firm grip.

TheFlax tried to free himself, but his struggle was soon over as TinCow was using supernatural forces to strangle his opponent. He tightened his grip and broke TheFlax' neck.

As soon as his victim died, TinCow's body evaporated and there was nothing left of him, except dust and ashes.


***

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Cool song, to accompany write-up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjO_nS7lF_8&feature=related

The hunt is on. Through the streets of the old Albaicin. Running, a man catches his breath, looks around, and runs again.

Faster, running, puffing heavily.

Darkness, running, street lights, narrow street, dark again.

The hunter is holding his right hand on his blade, his left hand ready on his belt with silver daggers.

The chase continues The prey runs. Speed is its' only weapon. Fighting this hunter is fruitless.

Faster, faster, faster!

The hunter sees the target. It enters a narrow street. The hunter grins and climbs up a nearby wall. Jump. From rooftop to rooftop. The prey is close.

The prey hears sounds of boots landing on a nearby roof.

The prey stops. Holds its' breath.

The boots land on a roof. Silence. Again, boots landing on a roof. Silence. Boots on a roof, further now.

The prey grins. He deceived the hunter...

He bows, leaning with his hands on his knees. He inhales fresh air, pauses, inhales again, pauses, puffs, inhales, spits on the floor and looks up. A silver dagger planted in the doorpost behind him.

The prey runs again. The hunter follows. The hunter is close. The hunter sees the target. Feels the target. The hunter is fast, the prey becomes tired. Boots echoing through the streets of the ancient medieval town. The hunter jumps from rooftop to rooftop, following the shadow of the prey through the light of the street lanterns.

The prey starts to realise he can't keep up this pace. While he keeps running, he unsheats his silver blade, stops, turns around, his back against a wall, and waits.

The hunter is above him, on the roof. The prey waits, stays silent.

The hunter jumps down. The prey looks at him. "So, she picked you to attack me." The prey starts shaking his head. "A terrible mistake."

The hunter doesn't answer, his face remains without expression. He draws his blade. The prey doesn't stand a chance against his drugged attacker. He manages to block one attack, but the second attack comes before he can move his sword in another direction. The blow slices him open from the belly up to the chest.

The prey sinks on his knees and looks up. The reflection of the moonlight on the silver blade was the last thing pevergreen ever saw.


***

Day 12

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Diana Abnoba looked up as 5 daggers showed up.

She briefly stared at each one of them and then she sighed, for a short moment, a glimpse of sadness on her face.

"Let's talk."


***


Alive (6)

1. Diana Abnoba
2. Double A
3. Methos
4. spL1tp3r50naL1ty
5. Kagemusha
6. DiamondEye

Killed (23)

autolycus
Yaropolk
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ibn-Khaldun
Psychonaut
Sasaki Kojiro
Yaseikhaan
Peasant Phill
Death is yonder
YLC
Secura
Captain Blackadder
GreyBlades
Niklas
TinCow
Kukrikhan
Renata
Choxorn
Jolt
TheFlax
Beefy187
pevergreen

Lynched (10)

Csargo
Askthepizzaguy
Seon
GeneralHankerchief
White_Eyes:D
Romanic
atheotes
Beskar
The Stranger
Scienter

WoG (1)
AVSM


***

It's now day. You can start voting. Day will last for +/- 24 hours.

:bow:

[TheFlax]

pevergreen was the vig choice? I hope that was the right choice... I suppose the plan now is trying to lynch Kagemusha again?

Oh yeah, Romanic: I was not the mafia you were looking for :clown:

[Kagemusha]

And more death. If people keep dying at this rate there soon wont be any of us left!:cry:

[Romanic]

pevergreen was the vig choice? I hope that was the right choice... I suppose the plan now is trying to lynch Kagemusha again?

Oh yeah, Romanic: I was not the mafia you were looking for :clown:

:oops: It didn't matter, no one was listening to me, but I am somewhat shocked that you were not mafia.

6 people left only. Tough spot, the next decision will be critical.

[Double A]

Wait, I thought Beefy was a suspect...

[Beefy187]

Mafia :bow:
But I don't understand why you killed me.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So obviously, we can't lynch Kage today, and the mafia have two votes to our 3 (so all the townies have to vote the same way). If we lynch a townie we lose if there are two mafia left. So let's lynch Methos. Then tomorrow we have to lynch Kage.

[KukriKhan]

So obviously, we can't lynch Kage today, and the mafia have two votes to our 3 (so all the townies have to vote the same way). If we lynch a townie we lose if there are two mafia left. So let's lynch Methos. Then tomorrow we have to lynch Kage.

Sounds like the best plan to me. :yes:

[Choxorn]

Well, technically there's one mafia (Kage) and one special role (Methos), but yeah.

[Renata]

I would throw the Hail Mary and lynch Kage one more time. I do not believe that Methos' play is consistent with him being one of the slaves. Either pevergreen was the last slave (we lynch Kage and win); or Kage is the slave, Nikolaos has taken over and is killing independently, and both the Ancient Vampire and Nikolaos had singleshot lynch-switching abilities to use on whomever they wished (we lynch Kage, then tomorrow take a shot at Nikolaos).

Now I know no one will agree with me, but I wouldn't lynch Methos even if it is unknown slave plus Ancient-Vampire-Kagemusha: see above. Take a shot at never-got-wogged Double A, showed-up-just-in-time-not-to-be-wogged Split, or even late-replacement Diamondeye, instead.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

You people are driving me crazy!

Methos--slave
Kage--ancient one

If pever was the slave (which he wasn't), than we have a spare lynch, and kage is the last mafia. So we lynch someone other than kage, no question.

Methos's posts yesterday make him clear mafia. Remember: ALL of the townies have to vote the same way today. We have 3 votes to the mafia's two. If people are throwing around these theories, than the townie players who are only showing up once a day to vote and then disappear will vote for the wrong person and we will lose.

[pevergreen]

umg I died.

@atpg's long post: eh.

[TinCow]

The vig target was pever? :thumbsdown::no:

I agree with Sasaki, lynch Methos.

[Double A]

Alright, that makes sense. You know, lynch the guy preventing the lynch of the super bad guy.

vote: Methos

[TheFlax]

I just hope that for the next lynch Split will actually show up.... Or it will be a tie. (I'm not expecting him to be night killed.)

EDIT: Stupid of me, I forgot the Naib. Alright, it lynching Methos and then Kagemusha sounds ok.

[Splitpersonality]

I am here.

Under the direction of the Naib's will shall I vote :bow:

[Methos]

Alright, that makes sense. You know, lynch the guy preventing the lynch of the super bad guy.

vote: Methos

Yesterday I voted to lynch Kage, which is what we were supposed to do, when means I did vote to lynch the super bad guy. Are you just not paying attention, or just trying to hid your own scumminess?

I'm withholding my vote for now.

[TinCow]

Yesterday I voted to lynch Kage, which is what we were supposed to do, when means I did vote to lynch the super bad guy. Are you just not paying attention, or just trying to hid your own scumminess?

I'm withholding my vote for now.

So good of you to follow the town's dutiful orders without question, especially since the slave would know that Kage would be immune to the lynch.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well I see two options. We either lynch Kagemusha now or we lynch one last suspected henchman and then Kage.

If he has a slave still alive, then we have to try to lynch the slave today anyway. If he does not, he should be down to one kill, which means there isn't as much urgency. So, I would generally favor lynching a suspect today, then Kagemusha.

Double A was totally inactive on the .org, CivFanatics, and TWC for 4 straight days. during that time, several games that Double A was involved and interested in continued without his involvement. Here, 2 might phases with slave kills happened during that time.
Splitpersonality requested to be dropped or replaced in all of the games he was in, and was inactive for 4 days here as well, during which time there were 2 night phases with slave kills.
Diamondeye replaced Johnhughthom, who requested to be replaced in my Murder Manor game, and requested to be replaced here. While he could be guilty, I doubt it.
Diana Abnoba is someone I strongly assume to be innocent.
Kagemusha will be lynched today or tomorrow, so that leaves:

Methos.

Well, it's certainly possible. The one thing I notice about Methos is that he's cool as a cucumber and does not offer alternative suspects on the rounds where atheotes dies and Kagemusha is first lynched. However, he doesn't vote for atheotes until it's basically been decided that atheotes should die, and voting for Kagemusha proves nothing because Kage can survive it.

So, if it is not Methos but Kagemusha has another slave, then there is no time and we lose if we lynch him. But, if Methos is the slave or another special role somehow, then we may drop our kills down to 1 and that should allow us to kill Kage at the last.

So if:

1. Diana Abnoba- can't vote
2. Double A
3. Methos- lynch
4. spL1tp3r50naL1ty
5. Kagemusha
6. DiamondEye- murder

That leaves 2 votes versus 1 on Kagemusha, and the game would be over anyway if we were wrong about pever or Methos. So at that point the game seems won. Otherwise we were supposed to use our vig kill on Kage, and I am not sure that is so, or the game would be over already.

Yep, lynch Methos, then Kage. The only other option is lynching Kage, and I am struggling to see any advantage in doing so. So if he wins because of a miscalculation there, then good game.

[Diana Abnoba]

I think we already killed the henchmen/slaves, and all we need to do now is lynch Kage. But if you guys still need to kill someone else fine, just make sure you all vote the same. I believe that we may have 1 round left.

Split- not active, but not active on any forum game.
Double A- not active, but not active on any forum game.
Diamondeye- replacement player for inactive player.
Methos- voted several times to lynch Atheotes and Kage, never changed his vote at the last minute.
Diana- innocent, been Naib almost 2 rounds now.

Kage- Scum

Methos to me is the only one with a slight hint of scum, but not really if you look back on his posts. The only thing is he is a good player, that maybe could pull this off, but he is just too cool about it. So I really don't get the scum vibe strong with him.

I think we should just lynch Kage, but I understand if you guys just have to be sure and lynch Methos. Just make sure that you all vote the same.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Just make sure that you all vote the same.

^
Yes, this.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

There is no good plan today that involves lynching Kage.

[Double A]

Yesterday I voted to lynch Kage, which is what we were supposed to do, when means I did vote to lynch the super bad guy. Are you just not paying attention, or just trying to hid your own scumminess?

I'm withholding my vote for now..

If the super bad guy is revealed, sometimes his scumbuddies will vote for him to make themselves look good, espicially when the super bad guy is unlynchable.

[naut]

Sweet honeycomb, lynch Methos already!


I'm withholding my vote for now.
Scum tell! I do that all the time... as Mafia.

[Diana Abnoba]

Fine lynch Methos, you just ALL have to.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sweet honeycomb, lynch Methos already!


Scum tell! I do that all the time... as Mafia.

He wants to see if a townie will vote for someone else, then he and kage can vote that person too.

[Choxorn]

Methos is Nikolaos, so whether you lynch him or Kage today doesn't matter so long as they both die in the next two days.

[Double A]

So who are the other townies voting for?

[Askthepizzaguy]

So who are the other townies voting for?

Vote for Methos.

[Splitpersonality]

Vote: Methos

[Diamondeye]

vote: Methos - and then Kage next round as Sasaki says :bow:

[The Stranger]

douible A should make new friends.

[Renata]

Good luck guys.

[Beskar]

The town is going to lose epicfail, I can foresee it.

[Renata]

Nobody gets to whine about losing who hasn't put any significant effort into winning.

[The Stranger]

can i whine? ill do it anyway.

no one is entitled to whine but atpg...

[pevergreen]

can i whine? ill do it anyway.

no one is entitled to whine but atpg...

Nah, he definately isn't, not after attempting and succeeding in getting me killed, incorrectly.

I do acknlowedge he seems to be trying for the town.

[Renata]

I'm entitled. :) But I'm not inclined. At least not about losing, if we do.

[The Stranger]

-_- if you are entitled than so am i...

[The Stranger]

Nah, he definately isn't, not after attempting and succeeding in getting me killed, incorrectly.

I do acknlowedge he seems to be trying for the town.

you tried to kill me too.. incorrectly. sooo... and if that hadnt happened. we wouldve lynched methos and we wouldnt be in this mess

[pevergreen]

I tried to get you lynched. My reasons, however, were not because I thought you were scum, more that you were detrimental to the town effort.

[Methos]

The town is going to lose epicfail, I can foresee it.

I agree. In all honesty, I hope we failed to kill the slave, that way tomorrow Kage and his remaining slave kill the town and we all have the great and amazing Sasaki to thank for losing the game for us! :bow:

Vote: Methos

[TinCow]

I agree. In all honesty, I hope we failed to kill the slave, that way tomorrow Kage and his remaining slave kill the town and we all have the great and amazing Sasaki to thank for losing the game for us! :bow:

Vote: Methos

If you are innocent, we can also blame you for losing the game for us. A falsely accused townie in this kind of situation should put up a much better defense than you have.

[Methos]

If you are innocent, we can also blame you for losing the game for us. A falsely accused townie in this kind of situation should put up a much better defense than you have.

Lol! I disagree. I thank you're just trying to find excuses to justify your own mistakes. I do admit that ATPG has a valid point on activity which helps remove suspicion from the remaining living players.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Lol! I disagree. I thank you're just trying to find excuses to justify your own mistakes. I do admit that ATPG has a valid point on activity which helps remove suspicion from the remaining living players.

Just for ships and gigolos, who do you pick out of the remaining living people to be guilty? Kagemusha and one more.

At least if we lose and you guessed correctly, you get to look smarter than the rest of us. :grin:

[Diana Abnoba]

There's plenty of blame to go around, so stop bickering about it. I made my decisions, based on in thread info and PM's sent to me. There were a lot of players that didn't send me any PMs, so if you don't like the decisions I made and you didn't send me a PM, sorry you have no right to complain. Also we had a lot of inactive players, that didn't add much input to the game, so again if you are one of them, you also have no right to complain. I think we did the best we could with what we had, and I like to look on the positive side here (at least until we know we've lost). "Stop harshing on my mellow, man." Just wait till the end to find out how well we really did. There's nothing we can do about it now. Yes, I too would have changed things, even from the start of this game, but isn't that always the way it is with 20/20 hindsight.

[Methos]

Just for ships and gigolos, who do you pick out of the remaining living people to be guilty? Kagemusha and one more.

At least if we lose and you guessed correctly, you get to look smarter than the rest of us. :grin:

I believe the final slave was pever, but I'm still wondering if we've lost this game. We can't be sure about the re-animator and what side they are on, or whether they have their own VC. If they do, the it's going to end up like this:

Today: I'm lynched (5 remaining)
Tonight: Kage and re-animator kills (3 remaining)
Tomorrow: We lynch Kage (2 remaining)

If the re-animator isn't town or mafia and has their own VC, then this game either ends as a tie or as a town loss. I know that while Diana is Naib, she's protected, but will she still be Naib tomorrow night? If she is, the game ends as a tie. If she isn't, the game ends with the re-animator winning. This of course assumes the re-animator doesn't win as town. If the re-animator is town, then we win.

[TinCow]

Lol! I disagree. I thank you're just trying to find excuses to justify your own mistakes. I do admit that ATPG has a valid point on activity which helps remove suspicion from the remaining living players.

Why should we bother trying to justify our mistakes? Is lynching the wrong person some kind of mortal sin in mafia? A town loss can be blamed on numerous people at numerous points in the game. Pointing the finger at Sasaki accomplishes nothing and it's also wildly inaccurate. When the town loses a large mafia game, everyone is to blame. Yes, even the person who was right all along but failed to convince the others.

[TinCow]

We can't be sure about the re-animator and what side they are on, or whether they have their own VC.

You're not sure what side the re-animator is on? Surely his tendency to murder people every night gives some clue...

[Diana Abnoba]

Tally:

Methos: 4 (Double A, Split, Diamondeye, Methos)

not voting: Diana (Naib), Kagemusha




Okay looks like Methos is it for the lynch. Write up with Pizza seasoning sent to Andres. This one is, a much needed, comic relief, one. I think we all could use a laugh. I hope you guys like it, I did. I hope you get a kick out of this one Methos. :bow:

[Methos]

You're not sure what side the re-animator is on? Surely his tendency to murder people every night gives some clue...

We're all murderers, remember?

[Andres]

15 minutes left.

[Renata]

We're all murderers, remember?

Not me. I am a lamb.

[Kagemusha]

And i am only an innocent reporter caught in this madness.:shame:

[Double A]

douible A should make new friends.

Who's douible A and why should he make new friends?

[Andres]

Day 12 - Conclusion

https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Daggers%20in%20the%20Night/P9150330.jpg


Methos had often contemplated what happens after death, especially since so many fell by his own hand. He used to fear it, or more accurately, he feared the unknown of death, but not any more. Since coming here he’d learned that death meant nothing, as the souls of that individual still existed and were able to communicate their foolishness just as they did in life. For that he reasoned that what did it matter anymore, so with that, he calmly stepped forward and handed his silver dagger to his Naib.

“I vote myself”.

Diana nodded and snapped her fingers. The remaining daggers put Methos in chains and led him to a special execution platform. But all there was on top of the wooden platform was a big comfy chair. Looking confused, Methos sat down in the comfy chair and allowed himself to be strapped in.

Diana stood on the platform with Methos, and addressed him, while the other daggers watched.

Diana began:

"You are accused of blasphemy, heresy, consorting with vampires, impersonating a swiss maid, high treason, crude and boorish behavior, grand larceny, grand theft auto, low treason, impersonating a taiwanese daredevil, first degree murder, improper disposal of a corpse, improper relations with a corpse, drinking Heineken and liking it, using your cellphone in a restaurant, medium treason, littering, witchcraft, improper reanimation of a corpse, impersonating a pirate, gratuitous depictions of nudity in a moving picture, not worshipping Andres last Friday, grievously improper use of a plunger, ties to an international communist conspiracy, unpaid parking tickets, and general scumminess. How do you plead?"

Methos proudly lifted up his chin, and with a gleam of sadness in his eye, he gave the people what they wanted...

"I plead guilty. No one else could have done these heinous crimes. I accept my sentence."

Methos knew he was innocent, but nothing was going to change the minds of this mob of people bent on violent murder. He was once one of them... so he knew he was no better. He felt the only thing to do was to give them some small bit of hope and a feeling of accomplishment. It was his final gift to a doomed group of well-meaning vigilantes.

Diana nodded. "Okay. BACK UP THE TRUCK!!!"

A large red truck emerged and began backing up towards the execution platform. Methos tried to crane his head around to see what was in store for him, but he couldn't see. All he could hear was the roar of the engine and the noise that a truck makes when backing up.

A pair of daggers ran to the truck and began unraveling a long hose. They brought it quickly up the steps of the wooden platform, and handed the hose to the Naib, kissed her shiny black boots, and then backed away with their heads lowered in respect. "Kill me next, honored Naib!" they pleaded, for it was indeed an honor to be slain by a woman so glorious as Diana Abnoba.

Diana ordered Methos to open his mouth, and when he did, she began stuffing the hose down his throat, causing him to gag uncontrollably. Tears welled up in his eyes as he felt the cold black hose being fed all the way down to his stomach.

"Begin!" bellowed the Naib.

A dagger pulled the lever on the truck, and the thick brown fluid began pumping through the black hose, all the way up the steps of the execution platform, and down into Methos' stomach. He had no idea what was being pumped down his gullet.... was it drugs? deadly poisons? toxic waste? raw sewage? His brain fired rapidly, and he began to panic. He started moaning for the terrible torture to stop, but his words were unintelligible. He felt his stomach begin to expand uncomfortably, and he started choking as the fluid began seeping back up.... and then he tasted the foul liquid he was being slain with.

It was sweet.... very sweet. It made his mouth tingle. It tasted so familiar, what could it be?

"That's enough!" shouted the Naib.

The dagger reversed the lever, and the pumping stopped. Diana took her sword and cut the hose off, mere inches from Methos' face. What now?

The Naib took out a roll of familiar-looking candy, tore it open slightly, and slid the entire roll into the hose. She forced Methos' head back and allowed the roll of candy to slide down the hose and into his stomach. Then she withdrew the hose, and covered Methos' mouth with duct tape. Methos was still as puzzled as he was before, until he saw the truck drive off.

"Oh my God...." thought Methos.

The Naib turned quickly and ran from the platform, and the crowd began to back up, and cover themselves with a plastic sheet.

Within a few seconds, it began. The dark brown fluid in Methos' stomach reacted with the mint-flavored candy, and the pressure began to build. Methos' eyes bugged out as Diet Coke shot fifty feet out from his nose. The Diet Coke exploded from his mouth, and a geyser of cola sprayed all over the enthusiastic crowd. But the pressure continued to build, until finally....

KABOOOM!!!!

Methos' head exploded, and a giant fountain of Diet coke erupted from his neck hole. A representative from the Guiness Book of World Records was there, and was able to verify that it was the single largest Mentos and Diet Coke explosion ever.

Everyone in the crowd began to applaud enthusiastically. They had done it! They were in the book of world records! Diana herself was very pleased, and bowed before the crowd. A voice in the clouds grumbled: "That'll teach him! Drinking Heineken and liking it!" Everyone, even the Gods, cheered for their Naib, the greatest Naib that ever lived! Hoooray!!!

Forgotten in all of the celebration was all the worry and fear about the Ancient One or the threat he posed. And soon, night would fall...


***

Tally:

Methos: 4 (Double A, Diamondeye, splitpersonality, Methos) :skull:

Not voting: 2 (Diana Abnoba (Naib), Kagemusha)


***

Alive (5)

1. Diana Abnoba
2. Double A
3. spL1tp3r50naL1ty
4. Kagemusha
5. DiamondEye

Killed (23)

autolycus
Yaropolk
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ibn-Khaldun
Psychonaut
Sasaki Kojiro
Yaseikhaan
Peasant Phill
Death is yonder
YLC
Secura
Captain Blackadder
GreyBlades
Niklas
TinCow
Kukrikhan
Renata
Choxorn
Jolt
TheFlax
Beefy187
pevergreen

Lynched (11)

Csargo
Askthepizzaguy
Seon
GeneralHankerchief
White_Eyes:D
Romanic
atheotes
Beskar
The Stranger
Scienter
Methos

WoG (1)
AVSM


***

It's now night. PM's please. Night will last for +/- 23 hours.

:bow:

[Kagemusha]

What a Classic! Methos killed with the Mentos bomb!:laugh4:

[Romanic]

This time nodoby forgot to turn off their cellphone. :grin: