Haiku Mafia [Concluded]

[Subotan]

Inspired by my conversations over at Mafiascum.net, I was recommended to host a Haiku Mafia game. This is going to be both quite minimalist, and I don't have the time to deign and host a Small Mafia game, so a mini will suffice.

The setting: It's Edo Period Japan, and specifically the tozama domain of Uesugi, and it's prestigious Haiku Academy. Prospective poets from all over Japan travel to the town of Yonezawa to study the art of the Haiku. Unfortunately, it appears that one student has been driven mad by the incessant 5-7-5 rule, and has murdered the venerated Sensei of the Academy, Subotan-san! A lockdown over the Academy has been imposed by the daimyo of Uesugi, with all the potential killers trapped in the building until they have lynched the one responsible. You are the accused, but you shall maintain your dignity, by only speaking in the art form you came here to study, in order to bring justice to the murderer.

Rules: In addition to the usual Vote/Unvote, you may only speak in Haiku format, which is a short poem with a syllable rhythm of 5-7-5. For example, a typical post might be


Vote:Subotan

The mask of metal (5)
Hiding the terrible glare(7)
Of a mad killer (5)
All posts must be in that format. No longer, no less. Only one poem is allowed per post. Edits are allowed only to correct syntax. Neither No Lynch nor Abstain are allowed, as I hate them and people who use them. Private communication is not allowed, as I can't be sure if you're haiku-ing or not. Besides,there shouldn't be any need. I would prefer it if you could mention the name of the person you are unvoting, as it makes tallying easier.

Red Herring Mafia, the last Mini I hosted was a great success, and I hope that this one will turn out to be just as interesting.

Sign ups are now closed! You were just too slow.

Players 7/7
Thermal Mercury
Secura
ATPG
Niklas
Renata
Captain Blackadder
A Very Super Market

[Thermal]

(in)

Isn't 'hides the brutal eyes' 5 syllables?

hides the bru-tal eyes...

[Subotan]

I was thinking

Hi-des the bru-tal eye-s

Is that wrong? If it is, I'm probably not the best person to be hosting this :beam:

[Secura]

My friend Subotan,
This game sounds interesting
You may count me in.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I was thinking

Hi-des the bru-tal eye-s

Is that wrong? If it is, I'm probably not the best person to be hosting this :beam:

Hides and eyes are both monosyllabic words, like "thoughts" or "strength"

(IN)

[Subotan]

Fixed :bow:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hiding the terrible staring(7)

Hid-ing the ter-ri-ble star-ing (8 syllables) :wink:

I'll be the syllable police.

[Secura]

The mask of metal (5)
Hiding the terrible glare(7)
Of a mad killer (5)

[Subotan]

I checked the syllable counter and it said terrible was two!

http://www.wordcalc.com/index.php

[Thermal]

This is just classic :laugh4:

[Subotan]

I won't make anymore mistakes. Promise.

[Myrddraal]

:laugh4: Great game Subotan. Thanks for hosting. :laugh4:


I checked the syllable counter and it said terrible was two!
I counted as well, and I thought it was terrible too.


I won't make anymore mistakes. Promise.
Surely you mean:

To redeem myself,
I pledge no more my poems,
Will errors contain.

[Niklas]

I am so in this,
to lynch in ordered fashion,
of five seven five.

[Renata]

This game probably
Won't start until Sunday, right?
I am very In.

[Askthepizzaguy]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/terrible

When in doubt, choose Webster.

(Although, to be fair, Merriam is good too.)

[A Very Super Market]

I will join this game
If only to make haikus
Expect little more

[Captain Blackadder]

In please thanks a lot
I have nothing left to say
magnesium pious.

[Askthepizzaguy]

In please thanks very much 6 syllables


I have nothing left to say 7 syllables.


magnesium pious. 5/6 syllables (edit: on further review, Merriam-Webster gives both a 3 and 4 syllable pronunciation for "magnesium", so....) Pronunciation: \mag-ˈnē-zē-əm, -zhəm\


I can tell this is going to be an especially fun game for me. :bounce:

[Captain Blackadder]

In please thanks very much
I have noth.thing left to say
mag·ne·sium pi·ous

5,7,5 ?

[Askthepizzaguy]

very is always 2 syllables.

[Beskar]

In please thanks very much
I have noth.thing left to say
mag·ne·sium pi·ous

5,7,5 ?

In please thanks ver-y much
i have noth-thing left to say
Mag-ne-si-um pi-ous

6/7/6

[Askthepizzaguy]

Beskar says:
you are right
magnesium is 4 sybs
askthepizzaguy@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
yes, but there is a valid pronunciation with 3
mag-ne-zhum
Beskar says:
o_O
askthepizzaguy@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
according to Webster
Beskar says:
that is probably American-retardation of it.
askthepizzaguy@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
No way
Beskar says:
It is Mag-ne-si-um
askthepizzaguy@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
I've never ever heard it before.
It's NOT American
it's probably Aussie stuff
lol
Beskar says:
You say "nuc-u-lar" instead of "nu-clear"
askthepizzaguy@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
No, Bush does cause he's an...
Beskar says:
exactly
askthepizzaguy@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
and it is nu-cle-ar.
not nu-clear
Don't make me go all pronunciation police on your behind
Beskar says:
it is nu-clear
askthepizzaguy@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
I consult websters and prove you rrrrrrong
Main Entry: nu·cle·ar
Pronunciation: \ˈnü-klē-ər, ˈnyü-, ÷-kyə-lər\
ALWAYS 3 SYLLABLES
AND EPIC WIN FOR PIZZAGUY!!!!
Beskar says:
no wayz, it is nu-clear
askthepizzaguy@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
I own the haiku mafia.
Beskar says:
http://say.expressivo.com/
write in "nuclear"
askthepizzaguy@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
Pardon, but i'll take MERRIAM-WEBSTER DICTIONARY over "expressivo.com"


Can you declare me the winner already, mister game host? :idea2:

[Captain Blackadder]

Allright then here is revised version

In please thanks a lot
I have nothing left to say
aluminium

[A Very Super Market]

Aluminium?
Check, is it aluminum?
The dictionary!

[Captain Blackadder]

aluminium
That is the Australian way
To say aluminum

[Askthepizzaguy]

I won't even say it this time. :bounce:

[Secura]

I can tell this is going to be an especially fun game for me. :bounce:

Askthepizzaguy
Correcting my haikus will
Result in your lynch.

:P

[Niklas]

I'll say it then - Blackadder, your last haiku is 5/7/6. Hrmf.

[Subotan]

Sending PM's.

[Subotan]

All Role PM's have been sent. PM me if you have any questions about your role

From now on, Haiku Hegemony is imposed. All posts from this point (But not this one :bounce:)must be in Haiku format. ATPG's Merriam-Webster dictionary will be the final say on whether a word has six syllables or nineteen or whatever. Bad things will happen to people who screw it up. You may quote other people's posts, but only one at a time. If there is a lynch tie then...interesting things will happen.

It is now the Day Phase. The lynch will commence in 24 Hours.

[Secura]

vote: Thermal Mercury

Liquid metal flows
From yonder, burning all on
It's molten journey.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Askthepizzaguy
You think that he is guilty
But you would be wrong

vote: Niklas

[Renata]

Random.org says
No wait, who am I kidding?
I say Secura

vote: Secura

[Captain Blackadder]

I vote Sub-o-tan
Shortly green, playing sheep set.
Misty random vote.

[Thermal]

well magnesium
is largely four syllables
nuclear is three!

[Thermal]

Captain Blackadder
is a little bit rusty
when doing haiku's

vote: captain blackadder

[Subotan]

I vote Sub-o-tan
Shortly green, playing sheep set.
Misty random vote.
You should change that vote
No good can come from such deeds
As lynching the host

:stare:

[Diamondeye]

I will be lurking.
I wanted to join the game,
Alas, I was too slow.

[Captain Blackadder]

Forgive me good host
I meant to vote Re-na-ta
I am out of it

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'd be happy with
a plan to keep the vote tied
That's good strategy.

[Niklas]

Askthepizzaguy
has received no votes at all,
better change that now.

vote: ATPG

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ha, that makes me laugh
Are you voting me to lynch
or to waste our time?

[Niklas]

I could ask he same,
what good is your vote on me?
Keeping the vote tied?

[Captain Blackadder]

why do people vote?
first rounds are always random
Don't read into it

[Niklas]

Dare I ask of you,
how many syllables are
in a-ny-one, eh?

[A Very Super Market]

It seems I again
Am slowest to cast my vote
AVSM's shame

Vote: Renata

[Renata]

Three votes on me now
For no reason I can see.
Why the bandwagon?

vote: AVSM

[Askthepizzaguy]

Only two there are
No more and no less my friend.
But..... why the tie-break?

unvote, vote: AVSM

[Askthepizzaguy]

I could ask he same,
what good is your vote on me?
Keeping the vote tied?

Keeping the vote tied
Allows ME to break the tie
not the mafia.

[Myrddraal]

I am most impressed
By the highest quality
Of the Haiku here

[Renata]

Only two there are
No more and no less my friend.
But..... why the tie-break?

What I was seeing
I don't know. It must have been
my guilty conscience.

[Askthepizzaguy]

What I was seeing
I don't know. It must have been
my guilty conscience.

Wine in front of me?
You drink from the poison cup?
You should know better.

:wink:

[Renata]

Wine in front of me?
You drink from the poison cup?
You should know better.

:wink:

:clown:

Somebody smack me.
Yes, truly, I am ashamed.
I could not resist.

[Captain Blackadder]

I am most impressed
By the highest quality
Of the Haiku here

thank you for support
I enjoy writing haikus
continue to gaze

[A Very Super Market]

We call Subotan
And his wrath down on us all
By forcing this tie.

(I cannot abstain
Nor do I need a reason
To vote for someone)

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm starting to think
That Subotan won't be here
in time for the end.

[Askthepizzaguy]

How silly of me.
Subotan isn't playing.
I am a moron.

[A Very Super Market]

ATPG's posts
Are just a minute apart
Edit instead /mod

[Niklas]

Each post may only
contain a single haiku!
It's all in da rulez!

[Niklas]

Hmm, to break the tie
or not to break the tie here?
That is the question...

unvote: ATPG; vote: Captain Blackadder

[Subotan]

The hated poet
Feels the rope around his neck
Swings in the soft breeze

Lynched
Captain Blackadder

Murdered

Alive
Thermal Mercury
Secura
ATPG
Niklas
Renata
A Very Super Market

It is now the night phase. Night ends at 23:40 Sunday GMT.

[Captain Blackadder]

I am very sad
Why was I lynched this way
I was a townie

[Subotan]

Disliked by them
You required one less vote
To hang from a rope

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh I understand
There's a hated poet role
one less vote to lynch...

[Subotan]

Askthepizzaguy
Has once again seen the truth
In Blackadder's role

[Askthepizzaguy]

Dead tonight, I'll be.
Mark my words, why would I lie?
Ask the pizza guy.

[Renata]

I return your words:
You drink from the poisoned cup.
Wine in front of me.

:wink:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ah, but Renata
I target the mafia
with my poisoned wine.

[Niklas]

But by doing so
you give to the mafia
a cup to pass on.

[Askthepizzaguy]

But by doing so
you give to the mafia
a cup to pass on.

You cannot resist
My comment draws you like flame
Time to kill a moth....

[Niklas]

Like moth to a flame
drawn there to reciprocate
and quench its bright light.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Like moth to a flame
drawn there to reciprocate
and quench its bright light.

Brightly burning sky
Winged insect will soon die
You'll fry, little fly

[Thermal]

Captain Blackadder
Was very hated indeed
I will burn his face

[Niklas]

Brightly burning sky
Winged insect will soon die
You'll fry, little fly
All you succeed in
is to give the mafia
the chance to fracture.

[Niklas]

Can it truly be?
Askthepizzaguy speechless
after my comments?

:smug:

[A Very Super Market]

I lie awake here
Yet the sky is dark outside
The town is noisy

[Askthepizzaguy]

Can it truly be?
Askthepizzaguy speechless
after my comments?

:smug:

When you murder me
you think I will be silent
but you would be wrong.

[Diamondeye]

A lurker's comment;
Will we see a poet showdown
- Pizza on Niklas?

[Secura]

Will we see a po-et show-down

Eight syllables. :P

[Thermal]

Eight syllables. :P

Thats Four Syllables
How could you, fellow player
make such a mistake!

[Subotan]

Thats Four Syllables
How could you, fellow player
make such a mistake!
Correcting syntax
Of non-player Diamondeye
It is acceptable

[Askthepizzaguy]

Eight syllables. :P

Secura my dear
You have broken the big rule
Five, seven, and five.

[Subotan]

A brush through the heart
Red ink dripping a poem
Renata lies dead

It is now the day phase. Night begins in 36 hours.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Niklas, tickle us
Why did you leave me alive?
Tell us your story.

Vote: Niklas

[Subotan]

Tell us your tale.
AHEM

[Askthepizzaguy]

Subotan, my friend
I beat you to it for sure
So there is no foul.

:bounce:

[Thermal]

Secura my dear
You have broken the big rule
Five, seven, and five.

Askthepizzaguy
Your first line has all six parts
I give up on all


vote: ATPG

[Niklas]

Niklas, tickle us
Why did you leave me alive?
Tell us your story.
I will not suffer
any of your silly WIFOM,
you should get the rope.

vote: ATPG

[Askthepizzaguy]

Askthepizzaguy
Your first line has all six parts
I give up on all


vote: ATPG

Mercury you fool
A foolish foolish fool, you
I am no scumbag.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I will not suffer
any of your silly WIFOM,
you should get the rope.

vote: ATPG

Niklas, evermore
you shall rue this very vote
I shall have revenge.

:mellow:

[Thermal]

Mercury you fool
A foolish foolish fool, you
I am no scumbag.

Why Repetition?
Your vocabulary hurts
It really is bad

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why Repetition?
Your vocabulary hurts
It really is bad

Why? So you will learn
I am a scapegoat, you fool
You foolish fool, you!

[Secura]

In fact sir, the word
'Dear' is sometimes said as
One whole syllable.

[Askthepizzaguy]

In fact sir, the word
'Dear' is often said as
One whole syllable.

"Secura, my dear"
-That is five whole syllables.
Now lynch Niklas please!

[Secura]

Hmm, to break the tie
or not to break the tie here?
That is the question...

A sudden vote change
From the top hat wearing one
Most suspicious, no?

vote: Niklas

[Askthepizzaguy]

Niklas, he is scum!
How do I know this? Listen:
He votes... for pizza.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why Repetition?
Your vocabulary hurts
It really is bad

Thermal Mercury
You like to skate through minis
Say more, guilty scum!

:bounce:

[Thermal]

In fact sir, the word
'Dear' is sometimes said as
One whole syllable.

De-ar quite clearly
Don't defend pepperoni
He's full of fail

[Askthepizzaguy]

De-ar quite clearly
Don't defend pepperoni
He's full of fail

Merriam-Webster
look it up and you will see
one syllable, "dear"

[Askthepizzaguy]

He's..... full..... of..... fail

Oh, sir, I should say
The one who is full of fail
Is you this fine day! (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fail)

[Thermal]

Merriam-Webster
look it up and you will see
one syllable, "dear"

Merriam-Webster
can go to hell, I know more
than that bad trash could!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Dear, you have much fail
For each word that you see here
is one beat per word.

:bounce:

[Thermal]

It makes you happy
So I'll let the big naughty
grammar nazi drone

[Askthepizzaguy]

It makes you happy
So I'll let the big naughty
grammar nazi drone

Let me spell it out
Niklas and Thermal are scum
Help, AVSM!!!

[A Very Super Market]

The choices we make
May all fall into their place
In a grand game plan

Vote: Nilkas

[Secura]

De-ar quite clearly

I don't like to break the whole immersive aspect, but I feel I must point out that words such as "dear" are open to interpretation as to how they are pronounced due to accents, whether English is the mother tongue and other factors.

In some cases, "dear" is pronounced as a two-syllable word, in others it is pronounced in such a fashion that the second syllable isn't really a syllable at all but a demi-syllable. On occasion it can be a single syllable.

Yada, yada, yada... back on topic.

[Beskar]

I like reading this,
The errors are amusing.
Are people counting?

[Thermal]

Your trapped in Pizza
Hes covered you in thick cheese
you'll be baked alive.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Your trapped in Pizza
Hes covered you in thick cheese
you'll be baked alive.

Doom and gloom says he...
When Skynet was my system
That was a scum tell.

[Renata]

Pizza sets the game:
Mafia -- if you spare me
I will vote Niklas

[Renata]

Then he votes Niklas
For sparing him. But any
scum would do that, no?

[Renata]

He called his shot. So --
Pizza: why accuse the Swede
Yesterday? Please say.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizza sets the game:
Mafia -- if you spare me
I will vote Niklas

If Niklas is scum
Then they fear my death because
I'll call for his head.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Then he votes Niklas
For sparing him. But any
scum would do that, no?

If Niklas is scum
Then they fear my innocence
Here, I'm a scapegoat.

[Askthepizzaguy]

He called his shot. So --
Pizza: why accuse the Swede
Yesterday? Please say.

Odds were much better
If I accuse innocent
Mafia kills me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizza: easy lynch
townies will try to lynch me
Mafia tries hard.

[Renata]

If Niklas is scum
Then they fear my death because
I'll call for his head.

You call for his head
Anyway, don't you? You were
always going to.

[Renata]

What I want to know
Is whether you had a good,
or zero, reason.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You call for his head
Anyway, don't you? You were
always going to.

Wine in front of me
If Niklas were innocent
Kill the pizzaguy

[Askthepizzaguy]

What I want to know
Is whether you had a good,
or zero, reason.

What reason round one?
Good guess is all I can have
Niklas got so scared.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Niklas, Mercury:
No other suspects have they
Not even trying.

[Renata]

Wine in front of me
If Niklas were innocent
Kill the pizzaguy

No, this is quite wrong.
The motive is otherwise.
Just think about it.

[Renata]

If Niklas is town:
Kill Pizza -- then lynch Niklas.
Good for mafia.

[Renata]

If he's mafia:
Kill Pizza -- Niklas is lynched.
Bad for mafia.

[Askthepizzaguy]

No, this is quite wrong.
The motive is otherwise.
Just think about it.

Proven innocent,
Pizzaguy says "lynch Niklas"
And mafia wins.

[Renata]

However, also:
Leave Pizza alive -- dead Niklas
Bad for mafia.

[Renata]

If Niklas is bad,
You've proved nothing doing this.
Smart Pizza knows this.

[Renata]

Mafia knows it
as well. If Niklas is town:
Kill me. Mislynch twice.

[Renata]

Game over. Pizza,
you let this happen. Think please,
or you are not town.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Niklas is guilty
See the Chinese game: Methos
I left him alive.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Either way, big risk
but mafia plays "chicken"
to confuse Pizza.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Either I mis-lynch
Or I become the scapegoat
two ways they can win.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Look at all their posts.
Tell me they aren't focused now
On Pizza alone.

[Renata]

If Niklas is guilty,
No good outcome is likely
For the mafia.

[Renata]

But if he is not,
Then you enabled the win
And not for the town.

[Renata]

The question for me:
Was this deliberate by you?
Or an accident?

[Renata]

Or are you just right,
Niklas a scared mafia?
Right now, I think not.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If Niklas is guilty,
No good outcome is likely
For the mafia.

That is why they fear
And must hope you all waver
they'll win "chicken" game.

[Askthepizzaguy]

But if he is not,
Then you enabled the win
And not for the town.

Prefer to choose lynch
Townie Pizza does, most times.
No bandwagon, here.

[Renata]

I see you goading
Niklas last night -- set up "cause"
to point a finger.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The question for me:
Was this deliberate by you?
Or an accident?

With two scumbags here
Unless all townies 'wagon
We lose. Pizza: good.

[Renata]

Are there two killers?
If so, one mislynch right now
Ends the game. Correct?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Or are you just right,
Niklas a scared mafia?
Right now, I think not.

Respect your viewpoint
I do Renata, but here
Lynch Pizza is loss.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Are there two killers?
If so, one mislynch right now
Ends the game. Correct?

Niklas, Mercury
They only want Pizza dead
That's your mis-lynch, friends.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I see you goading
Niklas last night -- set up "cause"
to point a finger.

Set up "chicken" game
Mafia cannot resist
townies always flinch.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Living pizzaguy
two mafia votes on him
One mistake loses.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Mafia game is:
Let pizzaguy talk and talk
soon, he looks scummy.

:laugh4:

[Renata]

I do see that, but
The set-up reeks of scummy
And that points to you.

[Renata]

I've said my piece, and
I need to sleep now. Good night.
Have fun arguing.

[Secura]

Two votes for Pizza,
And two more for Niklas, yes?
Market must decide.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I do see that, but
The set-up reeks of scummy
And that points to you.

That is the whole point.
No logic on pizza's side
beats town fear of him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Two votes for Pizza,
And two more for Niklas, yes?
Market must decide.

Secura, Market
Are you innocent? Think how
Two scums must vote now.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Market voted third
The tally is three to two
Secura my friend.

:bow:

[Askthepizzaguy]

If Pizza is clean
odds are 2 in 3 that scums
are voting as one

[Askthepizzaguy]

...Not standing apart
There's no reason to do so
they'd just lynch Pizza

[Askthepizzaguy]

So if Secura
or AVSM are clean
Bet: other is too.

[Askthepizzaguy]

On the other hand
If Niklas and Merc are clean
Both scums follow me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

But they don't seem clean
Only focused on Pizza
No other suspects.

[Renata]

That is the whole point.
No logic on pizza's side
beats town fear of him.

The logic, you see
Is not so much on your side
That is my whole point.

[Niklas]

Logic is indeed
not a friend of Pizza guy,
which he likely knows.

[Niklas]

I might have thought that
Pizza was an innocent
if not for his words.

[Niklas]

Two innocents fight,
what would the mafia do?
Kill one, frame other?

[Niklas]

Not very likely,
it would be too obvious,
wine in front of them.

[Niklas]

Likely let both live,
let them keep their argument,
in the day to come.

[Niklas]

Regardless who falls,
the mafia wins the day,
an innocent dies.

[Niklas]

Yet Pizza would know,
he is not half as stupid
as you would believe.

[Niklas]

Still he persist in
pointing his finger at me,
goading all of you.

[Niklas]

The fact that I live
means I must be scum, he claims,
where is the logic?

[Niklas]

He would have you think
that the mafia would kill
the one he fights with.

[Niklas]

To frame him, he says --
where's the logic in that thought?
We would see through that.

[Niklas]

The interesting part --
yes, interesting counts as three,
ask Merriam-Webster!

[Niklas]

The interesting part
is to think what moves make sense
if Pizza is scum.

[Niklas]

Kill that Niklas bloke?
No, that means uncertainty
in the next day's vote.

[Niklas]

Askthepizzaguy
likely wouldn't take the flak,
but his partner might.

[Niklas]

Better then to keep
Niklas there to FoS and vote,
town follows like sheep.

[Niklas]

Thermal Mercury
did not blindly follow suit,
Market broke the tie.

[Niklas]

There's your likely pair,
two four-letter acronyms,
scummy to a fault.

[Niklas]

Two scenarios,
Pizza guy is mafia,
or he is just dumb.

[Niklas]

If the first is true,
Mercury is innocent,
only two remain.

[Niklas]

If the first is false,
Thermal, Market, Secura,
two out of those three.

[Niklas]

Both scenarios
mean high probability
that Market is scum.

[Niklas]

Same with Secura,
but she cast her vote too fast,
she would know better.

[Niklas]

So, ATPG,
will you follow logic's lead,
vote your scummy friend?

[Niklas]

Thermal, Secura,
you know what I say is true,
mafia or not.

[Niklas]

We must catch a scum,
else the town is lost to us,
vote: AVSM!

[Secura]

I am willing to
Listen to your arguments
About Sir Market.

[Niklas]

I am glad to hear,
yet I feel one thing remains --
where is thy vote then?

[Secura]

I am glad to hear,
yet I feel one thing remains --
where is thy vote then?

Then I will unvote
While you explain your theory
About Sir Market.

unvote: Niklas.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The logic, you see
Is not so much on your side
That is my whole point.

Everyone has views
Their own personal theory
This is not science.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The fact that I live
means I must be scum, he claims,
where is the logic?

That was not my claim.
Why do you lie to them, huh?
Where's your honesty?

[Askthepizzaguy]

He would have you think
that the mafia would kill
the one he fights with.

That was not my claim.
You are lying. Stop that now.
You're a bad, bad man.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So, ATPG,
will you follow logic's lead,
vote your scummy friend?

Watch the scum use lies
Your first trick to kill us failed.
Now you both panic.

[Askthepizzaguy]

We must catch a scum,
else the town is lost to us,
vote: AVSM!

Here they will use fear
Make you second guess yourselves
Since "pizza scum" failed.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Discussion is fine.
But Thermal/Niklas bet all
On someone votes me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

When the bet did fail
Now they are forced to change track
Oh, now I'm not scum?

:laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

All eggs, one basket
That's why there was no other
Suspects besides me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Realizing fail,
the scum are forced to change up.
Round too long.... town flinched.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Niklas is scum, true.
You waver and now you lose
"sudden change of heart" -------> :laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Realize this please:
With two scums, only one track
Leads to town win.

[Secura]

Beyond the spam posts,
You have a point there, Pizza.
What do you suggest?

[Askthepizzaguy]

If town got on track
Then changing track means failure
Scum want new track, now.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Beyond the spam posts,
You have a point there, Pizza.
What do you suggest?

This is not science
But make your guess. Then don't move.
Scum want you to flinch.

[Askthepizzaguy]

All townies must vote
Three must vote as one you see
Choose, and then don't move.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Niklas is clearly
Scummier than all the rest
I pick him. You say...?

[Niklas]

Wine in front of me
If Niklas were innocent
Kill the pizzaguy


The fact that I live
means I must be scum, he claims,
where is the logic?


That was not my claim.
Why do you lie to them, huh?
Where's your honesty?

You are right for once,
yet my point stands regardless,
wine in front of YOU.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You are right for once,
yet my point stands regardless,
wine in front of YOU.

Niklas, I would hear
You if you were not so sure
I was scum before.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Town would listen, but
You and Thermal bet it all
On a wrong wrong move.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Any hope you have
If you are a townie, friend
Thermal must be lynched.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I bet anything
One or both of you are scum
So make your right choice.

[Niklas]

Niklas, I would hear
You if you were not so sure
I was scum before.
I am still as sure,
even more so than before,
yet town does not see.

[Secura]

The use of haiku
Makes players difficult to
Get a good read on.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am still as sure,
even more so than before,
yet town does not see.

Disingenuous.
If you were a town, you'd have
more of a backbone.

[Niklas]

Any hope you have
If you are a townie, friend
Thermal must be lynched.

You say Thermal, huh?
I said Market for the same
reason you give now.

[Niklas]

If you are the scum
then Thermal is innocent,
voting him means loss.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Remember my friends
Scums must act reasonable
....justifies vote switch.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If you are the scum
then Thermal is innocent,
voting him means loss.

You will try and fail
To convince the pizzaguy
That pizza is scum. :inquisitive:

[Niklas]

Even you would see
that me voting Thermal now
would be suicide.

[Diamondeye]

Everyone has views
Their own per-so-nal the-o-ry
This is not science.

I got you at last!
Can Merriam and Webster
Save you this time, too?


The use of haiku
Makes players difficult to
Get a good read on.

Especially
Those who keep all quiet - I
Should have had their spot

[Askthepizzaguy]

Even you would see
that me voting Thermal now
would be suicide.

That's because you're scum.
Were you a townie, you'd try
To salvage the game.

[Niklas]

You will try and fail
To convince the pizzaguy
That pizza is scum. :inquisitive:
You are not the one
I need to convince you're scum,
town is audience.

[Niklas]

That's because you're scum.
Were you a townie, you'd try
To salvage the game.
Which is why I asked
YOU to vote for Market,
exact same reasoning!

[Askthepizzaguy]

I got you at last!
Can Merriam and Webster
Save you this time, too?

Yes.

Pronunciation: \ˈthē-ə-rē, ˈthir-ē\

Both are acceptable.

[Niklas]

Let's get one thing clear:
Wine in front of both of us,
which the town well knows.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Which is why I asked
YOU to vote for Market,
exact same reasoning!

"Townie" Niklas... right.
You're so certain Merc is town.
Townie knows this how?

[Askthepizzaguy]

If Niklas is so
reasonable, then why not
Vote for Mercury?

[Niklas]

If you are the scum,
voting Thermal means a loss,
you know that as well.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'll tell people why
Save oneself and kill buddy
Same bad move for scum.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If you are the scum,
voting Thermal means a loss,
you know that as well.

You will try and fail
To convince the pizzaguy
That pizza is scum.

[Niklas]

I do not presume,
I merely hope that you will
see logic, for once.

[Niklas]

From my perspective,
since *I* think that you are scum,
Thermal would mean loss.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I do not presume,
I merely hope that you will
see logic, for once.

Remember Niklas
2 scums means all three townies
Must vote together.

[Askthepizzaguy]

When you say I'm scum
And I am not scum at all
You still lose the game.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If I'm scum vote me.
If I am not, convince me.
Vote for Mercury.

[Niklas]

Remember Niklas
2 scums means all three townies
Must vote together.
Yes indeed you're right --
unless one scum can be tricked
to vote for his friend.

[Niklas]

If I'm scum vote me.
If I am not, convince me.
Vote for Mercury.
I still think you're scum,
but town has not followed me,
hence I must switch tracks.

[Niklas]

Voting you won't work,
voting Thermal means we lose,
hence my Market vote.

[Askthepizzaguy]

"Townie" Niklas knows
Any vote is better than
Voting for Niklas

[Secura]

I still think you're scum,
but town has not followed me,
hence I must switch tracks.

Your argument for
Market confuses me, sir.
Why should I vote him?

[Askthepizzaguy]

So resistant to
Voting for Mercury. You
Will not see the light.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Were you a townie
Your move would be forced. Here, no....
You won't vote Thermal.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Scummy Niklas knows
If Pizza's right on Thermal
Then Niklas fries next.

[Niklas]

So resistant to
Voting for Mercury. You
Will not see the light.
Mercury is scum
only if I am scum too --
and I know I'm not!

[Niklas]

Hence a vote on him
would mean instant loss -- we MUST
catch a scum today!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Scummy Niklas knows
If Pizza's right on Thermal
Then Niklas fries next.

Read, and you will see
The only move for towny
Vote three: Mercury

[Niklas]

Your argument for
Market confuses me, sir.
Why should I vote him?

It's a simple case
of elimination here:
let me explain then.

[Niklas]

I know I'm not scum.
Thus Thermal could only be
if Pizza is not.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I know I'm not scum.
Thus Thermal could only be
if Pizza is not.

False logic, Niklas
Thermal could be scum always.
You're protecting him.

[Niklas]

I know I'm not scum.
Thus Thermal could only be
if Pizza is not.
That chance sure exists
that both of us are townies,
and mafia just laugh.

[Niklas]

If that's true, then of
Secura, Market, Thermal,
two of three are scum.

[Secura]

Confusing logic,
Yet there appears to be
A good point in there.