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Secura
07-08-2010, 19:29
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"What I have seen and done to achieve my position defies belief.
What I am capable of and will be party to in order to retain it will chill your soul."

Our tale begins in Orzammar, shining beacon of hope for the dwindling Dwarven race; lying beneath the lands of Ferelden, these hardy warriors spend their lives fighting the Darkspawn threat, living each day as though it is their last.

The Dwarves are a proud race who adhere to a rigid moral code of honour and justice... however, while everything may seem amicable to the uninitiated, one could not be more astounded as the real Orzammar comes to light; poverty and crime plague the lower streets while decadance and corruption paint a contrasting scene in the upper city.

Orzammar's Diamond Quarter is home to the upper echelons of Orzammar society; the Noble Caste. Following a shock announcement from King Endrin regarding his second child, the stage has been set for a treacherous and potentially fatal game of politics; during the night, a life has been taken which is set to rock the very foundations of the city's ruling dynasty, the Aeducans.

This is a wicked tale of betrayal, deceit and murder woven deep into the political intrigue of the Noble Caste; will you end up another stain upon the bloodsoaked tapestry of Orzammar's nobility or will you survive to tell the tale?

Ensure that you keep your friends close and your dagger closer, lest someone get to their's first.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS2pAvntfms&feature=related

Rules
Phases
The game is divided into alternating phases of Day and Night; the former lasts 48 hours to encourage voting; the night will be 24 hours long. There may be some fluctuation in this due to real life constraints (mainly work!), but I will adhere to them as best as possible.

Voting
During the Day phase, participants will vote for a player to be imprisoned or executed/exiled; each outcome carries it's own benefits and drawbacks.

Imprisonment removes a player from the game for a single night phase, whereby they will be released at the end of the next day; while imprisoned, the player cannot use any abilities, nor can they be targetted by those of others.

If you opt for this, vote as follows:
imprison: Secura

Execution and exile are basically the standard lynch, whereby the player with the greatest number of votes will be removed from the game; whether the lynchee is executed or exiled is entirely down to their character and is solely for narrative purposes.

For this choice, vote as such:
vote: Secura

You can also deign to follow either of these choices by abstaining; in this game, it amounts to voting for no execution or imprisonment, simply vote as shown:
Abstain

Persistently not voting for three phases in a row will result in the Wrath of Duncan, so please try to stay committed to the game.

Communication
Various characters will have access to QuickTopics to discuss the game (in-character preferred, but not required); out-of-thread communication is prohibited other than in these host-sanctioned QuickTopics, where you will post under your character's name rather than your own username.

You are permitted to discuss your abilities, items and night orders in the QuickTopics, but cannot reveal your actual identity as a player or your alignment; in-thread, you may discuss anything you wish, though be mindful that copy-pasting is not allowed whatsoever.

This is solely to ensure that I'm aware people are keeping within the spirit of the game and not simply coming out and revealing things in private.

The standard rules regarding dead players applies, so I won't repeat it all... simply that your continued participation after death is encouraged, be it a simple comment on writeups or so on, but please try to let the game take it's course and don't reveal anything that isn't public knowledge.

Character Information
Alignment
The core of any mafia game, all players will find themselves aligned to one faction or another; not all evil elements follow the call of the Archdemon, just as not all of Orzammar follows the rule of King Endrin Aeducan.

Whether you are good, neutral or outright evil, you will have your mark to make on the world.

Stats & Injuries
All characters, from the lowliest citizen of Dust Town to the mighty Grey Wardens, will have some measure of Strength, Constitution, Magic and Willpower; among the magically-inept Dwarves of Orzammar, Magic and Willpower holds little weight, and as such they will not feature in this game.

Strength and Constitution determine the outcome of physical attacks; that is to say, any attack made with a melee or ranged weapon. Consider the following example:

Sandal - 8 Strength, 7 Constitution
Hurlock Alpha - 6 Strength, 6 Constitution

The Alpha has 6 Strength compared to Sandal's 7 Constitution; in this instance, Sandal is too hardy for his attacker and would not be killed by the Hurlock's assault, though there is the potential for Sandal to suffer an injury which could have any number of effects depending on the luck (or lack thereof) of the die.

Should the boot have been on the other foot, with Sandal the attacker and the Hurlock defending itself, it's likely that Sandal might have killed his foe outright.

Injuries are a counter to items; they cause the players to incur a variety of penalties dependent on the nature of the infliction; typical outcomes may result in Strength/Constitution penalties, temporary loss of an ability and more...

Classes & Specialisations
Most characters are given a pre-determined class at the beginning of the game that determines their stats, abilities and items slots; Warriors tend to be hardier and take more damage, Mages are usually able to attack as well as use a spell and Rogues are masters of evasion. This is character-dependent, however.

Specialisations are available for some roles upon meeting character-specific personal goals. When this occurs, you will recieve a PM from the host detailing any choices you have, the potential benefits involved for each choice and any abilities you may acquire. You'll have time to decide and then respond with your choice.

Abilities & Spells
Every character will have an ability of some variety, regardless of alignment and stature in the game; some may limited in what they can do, such as 'can protect X each turn', and others may be of much broader and greater use. As with specialisations, some roles may learn new spells upon meeting their personal goals.

For all active abilities, whether they require the Day or Night to be used, send a PM to the host during the specified phase to use them. Naturally, this is not required for passive abilities. Unless otherwise stated, only one ability can be used per phase, though items can change this.

Items, Gold & Shopping
Money makes the world go 'round, and Orzammar is no exception; all characters have a penchant for gold, though some naturally have more than others. Characters will start with a fixed amount of gold and a set amount of income, which is the value they generate each turn; note that I will try to keep track of everyone's relative income, but you should keep your own records just in case. :3

All characters possess three item slots; one for armour, one for a weapon and one for a trinket... note that various classes may yield additional slots for more items, such as a defensive Warrior being able to equip a shield.

Players will have the chance to purchase items, potions and even different abilities for the right price from the city's merchants... providing they can outbid their fellow gamers!

For new items, one of Orzammar's many merchants will announce their wares during the start of the day phase, as well as any inherent effects and starting prices; bidding on these items requires gold and will be conducted privately via PM to me. The winning bidder will not be announced in-thread.

For items recovered from the lynched/murdered, Duncan will call for a public vote from all present for whom they believe should recieve the item, but he will not reveal the item's effects. The style of voting will be item-dependent, but will go along the lines of:
weapon: Secura
armour: Secura
trinket: Secura

Victory Conditions, Personal Goals & Survival
Every single character will have both a victory condition and at least one personal goal that they attend to achieve before the game is over, in addition to the standard survival parameter of victory.

These conditions and goals account for your final ranking and the closing write-up will change accordingly, so ensure that you attempt these additional goals to the best of your ability to leave your mark on the game.

The three conditions apply a percentage to your final score; 60% for victory, 30% for your personal goal and 10% for surviving. Awards and such will be awarded based upon both the above totals and overall performance.


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This is my first small game, and only my second game total, so I'm hoping for a good turnout and crossing my fingers that everything goes as planned; if you have any queries for the game, feel free to send me a PM and ask away, I'll be more than happy to answer.

The names in silver are those that have continued to express interest in the game either privately or in the Assembly Yard and, as such, have been given first refusal on a signup spot.

Sign-ups (17/17)
TheFlax
Double A
Beskar
Pinman
Renata
civplayah Skooma Addict
Chaotix
ArpeggiateTHIS
Yaseikhaan
Khazaar
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Captain Blackadder
autolycus
Reenk Roink
johnhughthom
God Emperor

Reserves
Niklas
Death is Yonder

Writeups
Day One (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129259-Dragon-Age-The-Aeducan-Succession&p=2521386&viewfull=1#post2521386) - Day One Ends/Night One Starts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129259-Dragon-Age-The-Aeducan-Succession&p=2522548&viewfull=1#post2522548) - Night One Ends (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129259-Dragon-Age-The-Aeducan-Succession&p=2523116&viewfull=1#post2523116)
Day Two (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129259-Dragon-Age-The-Aeducan-Succession&p=2523166&viewfull=1#post2523166) - Day Two Ends/Night Two Starts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129259-Dragon-Age-The-Aeducan-Succession&p=2524270&viewfull=1#post2524270) - Night Two Ends (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129259-Dragon-Age-The-Aeducan-Succession&p=2524771&viewfull=1#post2524771)
Day Three (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129259-Dragon-Age-The-Aeducan-Succession&p=2524772&viewfull=1#post2524772) - Day Three Ends/Night Three Starts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129259-Dragon-Age-The-Aeducan-Succession&p=2526794&viewfull=1#post2526794) - Night Three Ends (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129259-Dragon-Age-The-Aeducan-Succession&p=2528071&viewfull=1#post2528071)
Day Four (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129259-Dragon-Age-The-Aeducan-Succession&p=2528081&viewfull=1#post2528081) - Day Four Ends/Night Four Starts (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129259-Dragon-Age-The-Aeducan-Succession&p=2529310&viewfull=1#post2529310)

TheFlax
07-08-2010, 19:31
In! Confirmed! Whatever. :clown:

Double A
07-08-2010, 19:31
Oh come on, as many times as I posted in your thread, I should be automatic :tongue:

Cultured Drizzt fan
07-08-2010, 19:33
IN, but only if you think this will wrap up before the end of the month.

Beskar
07-08-2010, 19:33
In for the Win.

Pinman
07-08-2010, 19:35
IN.

Renata
07-08-2010, 19:37
Yup.

Secura
07-08-2010, 19:40
Oh come on, as many times as I posted in your thread, I should be automatic :tongue:

You might have changed your mind! :P


IN, but only if you think this will wrap up before the end of the month.

Well, the game is meant to start on the 10th, and it's two phases every three days (so it'd be seven days and seven nights by the end of the month, give or take)... not sure how long it's going to take though, depends on the skill and commitment of those who sign up as well as how the mechanics and such hold up. :3

civplayah
07-08-2010, 19:45
In!

Chaotix
07-08-2010, 19:45
In. Can't miss this one!

Cultured Drizzt fan
07-08-2010, 19:51
You might have changed your mind! :P



Well, the game is meant to start on the 10th, and it's two phases every three days (so it'd be seven days and seven nights by the end of the month, give or take)... not sure how long it's going to take though, depends on the skill and commitment of those who sign up as well as how the mechanics and such hold up. :3

alright then, I'll give it a shot. Probably be dead before I have to go away anyway :beam:

Double A
07-08-2010, 19:52
You might have changed your mind! :P

:laugh4:

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-08-2010, 20:30
IN IN IN IN!

seireikhaan
07-08-2010, 20:49
:charge:

Khazaar
07-08-2010, 21:03
I´m in...

Romanic
07-08-2010, 21:26
In!

Splitpersonality
07-09-2010, 01:08
In while I can!

Captain Blackadder
07-09-2010, 01:33
in please

autolycus
07-09-2010, 03:43
Count me in

Reenk Roink
07-09-2010, 04:44
Is Dragon Age any good?

I'll play this and maybe find out... :bow:

TheFlax
07-09-2010, 05:24
Is Dragon Age any good?

I'll play this and maybe find out... :bow:

Yes it is. :yes:

Especially the characters, many of them are very memorable.

Diamondeye
07-09-2010, 07:15
Sorry I won't be able to participate in what looks to be a great game :(

I'll be sure to read up on it once I get back though!

Secura
07-09-2010, 08:19
Is Dragon Age any good?

I'll play this and maybe find out... :bow:

T'is a very good game!

This mafia game is based on one of the six 'Origin' stories, the Dwarven Noble, often cited by the DA community as the best of the six due to the rich plot that actually carries through into the later game, something that doesn't hold true for some of the others. Naturally, I've had to chop and change things to make them work in a mafia setting, so the game will include both key characters from the story and some of my own to facilitate the game, but it'll have that DA flavour for certain. :3


Sorry I won't be able to participate in what looks to be a great game :(

I'll be sure to read up on it once I get back though!

No worries, hope you'll enjoy reading!

As an aside, signups are temporarily closed; we've reached sixteen players, and I promised johnhughthom a spot, so I'm waiting to hear from him first. :3

johnhughthom
07-09-2010, 10:27
In.

Beefy187
07-09-2010, 10:52
Though Beskar sent me a invite, I can't join any more games at this time around.
Exams coming up and Essays to write

So apologies to the host :bow:
I hope this will be a successful and fun game.

God Emperor
07-09-2010, 13:36
With only one person missing for a full team.
Signing In

Niklas
07-09-2010, 13:41
Please put me on the reserve list. :bow:

Death is yonder
07-09-2010, 14:40
Hmm I know you kept pestering me Beskar, but I had an extremely long day and looks like Sign ups have been fulfilled :tongue:

Plus I'm sure you know what usually occurs when sign ups start at DiY unfriendly hours :clown:

Put me as a reserve please, though I doubt that the enthusiastic players who've signed up will go AWOL :yes:

(Especially since there are already 2 reserves!)

Secura
07-09-2010, 18:52
In.

I was waiting for you! I'm glad that I came home from work and found this. :3


Though Beskar sent me a invite, I can't join any more games at this time around.
Exams coming up and Essays to write

So apologies to the host :bow:
I hope this will be a successful and fun game.

Don't worry about it, hope everything goes well with the exams. Hopefully you'll read the game even if you're not participating.


With only one person missing for a full team.
Signing In

Since I promised a place to JHT and he has signed up, all spots have been filled; I have put you down as a reserve in the meantime, please let me know if that's not satisfactory. :3


Please put me on the reserve list. :bow:

Done and done... hope you'll keep up with the thread regardless, your input was much appreciated.


Hmm I know you kept pestering me Beskar, but I had an extremely long day and looks like Sign ups have been fulfilled :tongue:

What was he saying? :o

As an aside, I'm going to start working on the rest of the role PMs and I'll begin sending them off as and when I can... the game won't start until I get home from work tomorrow, though. :3

Beskar
07-09-2010, 19:59
I sent everyone on my MSN list a link to your game. I doubt that falls under "pestering". :tongue:

Reenk Roink
07-09-2010, 20:00
T'is a very good game!

This mafia game is based on one of the six 'Origin' stories, the Dwarven Noble, often cited by the DA community as the best of the six due to the rich plot that actually carries through into the later game, something that doesn't hold true for some of the others. Naturally, I've had to chop and change things to make them work in a mafia setting, so the game will include both key characters from the story and some of my own to facilitate the game, but it'll have that DA flavour for certain. :3

The thing is I've had the game lying on my shelf for months now, but never have gotten around to playing it; haven't really played much video games at all recently. I got it because I had played previous Bioware RPGs like Neverwinter Nights 2 but then again, I haven't played Neverwinter Nights 2 since I beat it the first time.

Of course, your writing should definitely sell the game quite nicely. :yes:

Secura
07-09-2010, 20:51
Of course, your writing should definitely sell the game quite nicely. :yes:

I'm hoping that would be the main selling point, especially after Overwatch! ^_^

I'm working through PMs currently, so you'll all get them over the course of Friday and Saturday; I'd appreciate feedback on roles and any questions would naturally be answered. Can't wait to get this off the ground. :3

Secura
07-09-2010, 23:16
Alrighty, I've currently completed four roles and sent them off to their respective players; you know who y'all are, please let me know if you have any questions or problems with your role, I'll explain as best I can.

For everyone else, I'll get the rest done tomorrow after work, and you should at least have them and a started game by the end of Saturday. G'night for now. :3

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-09-2010, 23:29
Alrighty, I've currently completed four roles and sent them off to their respective players; you know who y'all are, please let me know if you have any questions or problems with your role, I'll explain as best I can.

For everyone else, I'll get the rest done tomorrow after work, and you should at least have them and a started game by the end of Saturday. G'night for now. :3

*Clears Saturday night schedule*

Secura
07-10-2010, 00:02
*Clears Saturday night schedule*

You're mad! :P

Anyways, someone raised an interesting point about items, and I have amended the opening post to reflect the method of acquiring them, but will reiterate here nonetheless:

Merchants will present new items and announce their effects, but they are bid on privately with gold; the winner is kept private also.
Duncan will present previously-owned items and will not announce their effects, and they are publicly voted on by the players; the winner is announced in-thread alongside the lynch.

Items are always presented at the start of the day phase, after the writeup regarding the previous night's events. :3

EDIT: As an additional note, I'll reiterate something else; be careful who you reveal to. This is Orzammar's Diamond Quarter, rife with deceit and betrayal... those who you consider your allies or your kin may not stay that way, and even the most trusted of allies can become the most feared of enemies.

johnhughthom
07-10-2010, 00:15
You cannot reveal or hint at your role name or alignment privately to other players, only publicly in the thread


be careful who you reveal to.

:inquisitive:

Secura
07-10-2010, 00:18
:inquisitive:

Ahh, but I have said that abilities, items and such are fair game; what I'm saying is that you shouldn't reveal to someone just because they're your character's second-cousin twice-removed on their mother's side... this is a changing, malleable game, just like it's inspiration; you may reveal your abilities or whatnot to someone you percieve as an ally only for them to use that information against you later on if their allegiances change. :3

And if someone wants to role-claim in-thread then so be it, I'm not going to forbid it... just like all games though, what might save you from a lynch may present you as a nighttime target instead. :P

Secura
07-10-2010, 00:39
Okay, I suck... due to a newbie administration error, I have sent the same PM to two players at once; while the intended recipient has recieved it and confirmed doing so, another player who was intended for a different role entirely has seen that PM and as such can't really participate anymore due to metagaming reasons, which is most unfortunate. I've promoted God Emperor from reserves to reflect this unfortunate turn of events.

My game's going to be jinxed now... sincerest apologies, Drizzty. :<

Cultured Drizzt fan
07-10-2010, 02:10
Okay, I suck... due to a newbie administration error, I have sent the same PM to two players at once; while the intended recipient has recieved it and confirmed doing so, another player who was intended for a different role entirely has seen that PM and as such can't really participate anymore due to metagaming reasons, which is most unfortunate. I've promoted God Emperor from reserves to reflect this unfortunate turn of events.

My game's going to be jinxed now... sincerest apologies, Drizzty. :<

Its fine, :tongue: things happen like that. No reason to fret over it!

Secura
07-10-2010, 18:24
Slaving away over the rest of the role PMs now, doing 'em three-at-a-time. xD

Hoping to be done in the next four or so hours.

Double A
07-10-2010, 18:30
Oh crap, does this mean we have to read them?

:clown:

Skooma Addict
07-10-2010, 19:17
I am...too late. *weeps bitterly*

Could I be a reservist?

Secura
07-10-2010, 19:43
Could I be a reservist?

Yup, I'll add you to the list! ^_^

I've got two more roles out the way and sent off; their recipients can PM me if they have any questions, and I would love feedback on what y'all think of their layouts, the narrative and such!

Chaotix
07-10-2010, 22:28
:cry:

Where's my role?

Secura
07-10-2010, 23:40
Where's my role?

I'm ever so sorry, Chaobot... you'll get it eventually, treacle.

I've been typing out roles since I got home from work about seven hours or so ago, having completed nine total today; anyone who has recieved a PM already will tell you that alot of effort's gone into it, particularly as half the characters are completely made-up for the game and thus require a fresh background created for them to fit in with the story. I estimate that there's about... 60+ images used in the completed game, just in the role PMs alone (characters, classes, abilities and items... s'alot of stuff); I like things to look good, presentable and in clear and concise English.

I had planned on starting the game today, but the work's immensely tiring; I really really should have begun work on the PMs sooner, but severely underestimated both the workload of the game itself (t'is my first small game, second game in all!) and just how knackered I would be after work each day; my body wasn't really prepared for walking miles in dunes, lifting my own body weight in sand and using sporting equipment that carries a risk of killing me, that's for sure! :P

So to Romanic, Beskar, Chaotix, split, Blackadder and Khazaar, I apologise again that you've had to wait; I'll be finishing the last few role PMs tomorrow after work (2pm GMT) and hopefully you'll have them and a running game within the next twenty-four hours.

Secura
07-11-2010, 22:14
Just watched the WC Final conclude, finishing up PMs now; two and a bit left, then I'll post a short writeup (to be expanded later) and get the game going! :3

Secura
07-12-2010, 00:58
Day One
Voting concludes at 00:00 GMT, 14/07/10

https://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/Secura87/Dragon%20Age%20Origins/The%20Aeducan%20Succession/RoyalPalace.jpg
Inside the Royal Palace

Her skin was much paler than it had been only hours ago; cheeks that once flushed crimson were now blanched a speckled pink-white that showed none of the warmth that she had been known for. In life, the noble's soft auburn hair had begun to give way to brittle grey tones; the usual tight-knotted bun that she wore so regally had come loose as she collapsed to the floor, cascading across the stone as though it was for a painting.

Emotionless, white-hued orbs gazed upwards towards the ceiling, flecked with narrow-lined shades of scarlet; the rolled-back eyes of Lady Dordan gave no indications of how she had died, told no tale of why her life had been taken so coldly and suddenly.

King Endrin Aeducan sighed heavily, and turned away from the body; he held no thoughts of any scandal that might emerge with a murder occuring on his property, nor of the joyous events that had preceded this moment, but for the surviving members of House Dordan who had lost their matriach so soon after her predecessor had died as a result of her advancing years. It was his due, as their monarch and her friend, to ensure that they were properly cared for and that her killer was met with the swift hand of justice.

"My dear girl...", he whispered softly, twirling a wrinkled forefinger through his whitened beard as a beaded droplet or two slowly ran down from his eyes.

A hand rested upon his shoulder, and Endrin turned to see his esteemed guest had concluded his inspection of the deceased; a rush of warmth filled the monarch's heart, and he managed a weak smile beneath the gentle tears, because he knew that if there was anyone that could be counted upon in such a dire time, it would be a Grey Warden.

"There are no signs of physical distress, but beyond that it isn't clear, Endrin", the human stated calmly.

"Then... what killed the poor girl, Duncan?", Endrin said through gritted teeth, his smile having faded and the tears continuing harder still, "was it...?"

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A crowd had gathered in the Throne Room, many of whom were still wearing thier night attire having been woken up several hours early; a sea of disgruntled and confused Dwarven faces flitted from the weary-looking King hunched in his throne to the formiddable figure of a man stood nearby, conferring with fellow humans about matters they knew not.

Endrin finally managed to shake himself from his own thoughts, climbing to his feet and looking across at his guests; on another day, he might have found himself chuckling about Lady Helmi's bed-hair, but this was no time for laughing, only severity.

"Loyal deshyrs, attentive citizens, trusted children", he croaked, feeling a lump in his throat as he began to speak. He paused, cleared his throat, and started again, trying to remain strong for everyone else, particularly his three children, all of whom he counted among the crowd.

"A few hours ago, the lifeless body of Lady Dordan was discovered in her chambers", the King stated gravely, "and while we are unsure currently, we have the honourable Grey Wardens assisting our efforts."

This statement caused a ripple of emotions throughout the crowd; some remained silent in sheer shock, others frantic in full-on fear. Endrin was pleased to see that his own children maintained a veneer of outer calm and decorum, at the very least, even if they did not feel it.

"We are going to root out the troublemaker and show them that no Dwarf, whether he be pauper or prince, will avoid the hammer of justice." King Aeducan stated in a finalised manner, before settling back into his chair and sighing heavily once more.

"Let the discussion commence..."

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Alive: (17/17)
TheFlax
Double A
Beskar
Pinman
Renata
civplayah
Chaotix
ArpeggiateTHIS
Yaseikhaan
Khazaar
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Captain Blackadder
autolycus
Reenk Roink
johnhughthom
God Emperor

Just some points I wanna raise:

All Role PMs are now delivered!
Remember to check the rules, as they've been amended recently!
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
I love feedback, so feel free to make any comments about my writing publicly/privately!
Have fun!

Beskar
07-12-2010, 02:00
Interesting, who went at this hour into the Lady's bechamber? Most of us are still in our night-wear, my lord.

Chaotix
07-12-2010, 03:09
We ought to get to the bottom of this at once. Under Dwarven law, you are all guilty until proven innocent.

Vote: civplayah

Where is your defense?

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-12-2010, 08:58
Could this be down to the Jarvia and her carta? *For anybody who hasn't played DA:O, they're a Dwarven gang.*

Either way, we need to begin the pointing of the fingers, and soon after, the smashing and smushing of our enemies with greatswords and mauls! Vote: Autolycus. What have you got to say for yourself?

johnhughthom
07-12-2010, 09:42
Curious that you are so eager to have people put to death with no evidence, Imprison: Chaotix and see what happens tonight.

God Emperor
07-12-2010, 11:00
How could this happen? where were the guards? Lady Dordan was murdered and we need to see swift justice!
I have heard how spL1tp3r50naL1ty talked about Lady Dordan, when she was not around, spL1tp3r50naL1ty is surely to have done it!
Vote: spL1tp3r50naL1ty

-This is to the players of the game: I shall try to keep my participation high, but I fear I wont have acces to the computer all day and night, so if I do not answer questions directed at me, then now you know why
-for Secura: Could you at each day phase, including this one, write the names of the players still in the game?

Splitpersonality
07-12-2010, 12:20
You dare vote me? Imprison: God Emperor.

I do not believe you to be guilty, just ignorant of the truth.

OOC: =p

Romanic
07-12-2010, 12:35
Atrasta nal tunsha Lady Dordan. We will miss your bushy whiskers. :sad:

Imprison: autolycus

Do you have an alibi for last night?

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-12-2010, 13:15
Ahh, I apologise Autolycus.

Seems I totally forgot about the idea of imprisonment. Unvote; Imprison: Autolycus

Let's see if you crack in the cells, foul peasant!

seireikhaan
07-12-2010, 13:16
Vote: Arp

Backing down like a common duster, outrageous.

Secura
07-12-2010, 14:11
for Secura: Could you at each day phase, including this one, write the names of the players still in the game?

I had intended to do that for future phases, yes; I didn't provide a list for this phase because all seventeen players are currently alive.

autolycus
07-12-2010, 15:07
I'm a simple fellow. If a night in the jails will make you all more comfortable, I'm ok with that. Nevertheless, I think another would be a better choice Imprison: Khazaar

Renata
07-12-2010, 15:15
Imprisonment is for weaklings.

vote: Reenk Roink

civplayah
07-12-2010, 16:49
vote: Beskar

Pinman
07-12-2010, 16:54
Imprisonment is for weaklings.

vote: Reenk Roink

A night in jail will calm you down.

Imprison: Renata

TheFlax
07-12-2010, 16:56
Let's not be hasty here, if I may be so bold. Surely we do not want to condemn to death or exile an innocent?

Imprison: Chaotix

Double A
07-12-2010, 17:01
Fellow dwarves, we do not need to mindlessly vote for ourselves, not when there is no way of telling who, or what, the murderer is. I say, at the most, we imprison someone, until our path is clearer.

vote: abstain.

Renata
07-12-2010, 17:04
Weakling!

unvote, vote Double A

Khazaar
07-12-2010, 17:16
Her body has not yet grown cold and already there is bickering, shouldn´t we wait to hear what the Grey Warden has to say? There´s a reason that King Aeducan has asked his assistance...

Vote: Abstain

Double A
07-12-2010, 17:44
No one votes for me and gets away with it.

unvote, vote: Renata

Beskar
07-12-2010, 18:03
I believe the lady is overcome with grief, perhaps she should have a rest tonight, in security.

Imprision: Renata

Renata
07-12-2010, 21:35
I'm no lady, I'm a dwarf.

Double A
07-12-2010, 21:39
There ARE dwarf ladies, you know. We don't just pop out of the ground.

I bet you're a stinking human.

Renata
07-12-2010, 21:50
Human? Oh, now that's just uncalled for. Ewww.

TheFlax
07-12-2010, 21:53
There ARE dwarf ladies, you know. We don't just pop out of the ground.

I bet you're a stinking human.

I bet you're a nug. :wink:

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-12-2010, 22:01
You're all nothing but city elves. Stinking, dirty, thieving city elves.

Mind you, I doubt there are any elves in this game.

TheFlax
07-12-2010, 22:14
Question to those wiser than I. Why is voting to kill/exile someone is a better option than imprisoning someone when we know not who is responsible?

Secura
07-12-2010, 22:16
Just a slight change in the rules regarding the imprison option; while this prevents the player from using any abilities for the night phase, it also prevents them being targetted by those of others too.

I'll amend the initial post to reflect that. :3

johnhughthom
07-12-2010, 22:19
OOC: I think most of us would have assumed that anyway. Best to put it in Black and kinda Mauve just to be safe I guess.

Secura
07-12-2010, 22:22
OOC: I think most of us would have assumed that anyway. Best to put it in Black and kinda Mauve just to be safe I guess.

It's better to be safe than sorry...

Double A
07-12-2010, 22:23
Question to those wiser than I. Why is voting to kill/exile someone is a better option than imprisoning someone when we know not who is responsible?

Your words have a ringing of truth to them. We should not kill anyone unless they are enemies of Orzammar.

unvote, imprison: Renata

Renata
07-12-2010, 22:39
Your dishonest words betray you for the coward you are, Double A. You speak of truth, but in doing so you only serve yourself. You put me a comfortable two votes ahead of your own death or exile (and one in front of Autolycus' imprisonment), all in the guise of a reasonable prudence.

Renata
07-12-2010, 22:42
(Separately, to answer Flax: I hardly ever fight day one no-lynches anymore (which is essentially what this is), but that doesn't mean I have to like it or participate in it.)

Double A
07-12-2010, 22:54
Your dishonest words betray you for the coward you are, Double A. You speak of truth, but in doing so you only serve yourself. You put me a comfortable two votes ahead of your own death or exile (and one in front of Autolycus' imprisonment), all in the guise of a reasonable prudence.

I am not worried if I were to be exiled, for I have nothing to hide from the honorable folk of Orzammar. Your accusations reveal your own secretes, Renata.

ooc: Yeah well I HAVE A SAMMICH

TheFlax
07-12-2010, 23:34
(Separately, to answer Flax: I hardly ever fight day one no-lynches anymore (which is essentially what this is), but that doesn't mean I have to like it or participate in it.)

Its better than "no lynch" my dear, since it is in effect a "roleblock". But you are right, you don't need to like or participate in it. :wink:

Chaotix
07-13-2010, 02:26
Imprisonment by vote is useless. The only way we will catch the murderer during the day is by exile.

Romanic
07-13-2010, 02:36
How is it useless? If someone is imprisoned and a murder occur, we will know for certain that he is not the killer. That's useful. It looks better than a real lynch, because we don't have any information to deal with.

Renata
07-13-2010, 02:37
Its better than "no lynch" my dear, since it is in effect a "roleblock". But you are right, you don't need to like or participate in it. :wink:

So what are you going to do if there is no death tonight? Assume the imprisoned one is guilty, so you spend two days lynching one person? Assume there's a chance it was a frame and spend several days keeping that person in prison just to be sure? And what if there is a kill? Assume the person locked up is innocent, then get stabbed in the back five days down the line when it turns out they were only the killer's backup partner? What you get out of something like this is information, but it's not very useful information. All it really is is an excuse to do nothing.

Beskar
07-13-2010, 02:46
So what are you going to do if there is no death tonight? Assume the imprisoned one is guilty, so you spend two days lynching one person? Assume there's a chance it was a frame and spend several days keeping that person in prison just to be sure? And what if there is a kill? Assume the person locked up is innocent, then get stabbed in the back five days down the line when it turns out they were only the killer's backup partner? What you get out of something like this is information, but it's not very useful information. All it really is is an excuse to do nothing.

Are you volunteering to do your duty of slaining as many darkspawn as possible before your demise, my lady, opposed to imprisonment?

Captain Blackadder
07-13-2010, 02:59
Salroka one and all we must not be hasty and I have consolted with the fallen Paragons of our lands and they have told me to

Imprison johnhughthom

Chaotix
07-13-2010, 03:32
So what are you going to do if there is no death tonight? Assume the imprisoned one is guilty, so you spend two days lynching one person? Assume there's a chance it was a frame and spend several days keeping that person in prison just to be sure? And what if there is a kill? Assume the person locked up is innocent, then get stabbed in the back five days down the line when it turns out they were only the killer's backup partner? What you get out of something like this is information, but it's not very useful information. All it really is is an excuse to do nothing.

Renata has explained it perfectly.

We must exile those we suspect. Imprisonment is not a viable option during the day time.

TheFlax
07-13-2010, 03:54
Of course... If only we had a suspect in the first place...

And Renata, I said that "Imprison" is better than "No Lynch", not that you should think its the best move ever. :clown:

Romanic
07-13-2010, 04:07
Imprisoning is the best move ever at this point. :grin:

Let's keep our numbers high, while gathering some information, and make sure that a hasty lynch does not turn against us.

Secura
07-13-2010, 09:54
Imprisonment is not a viable option during the day time.

It's supposed to be. :/

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-13-2010, 10:34
Imprisoning is the best move ever at this point. :grin:

Let's keep our numbers high, while gathering some information, and make sure that a hasty lynch does not turn against us.

Keeping numbers high, whilst leaving high numbers of townies, also removes the chance of killing the real perpetrators. I'm sure if I were to post more in-character it would sound something like:

Nonsense, fool! The Dwarven Kingdom will not stand by whilst our ranks are infiltrated by king-killers. We must act fast, brothers, and take vengeance upon those who seek to wreak havoc upon our lands. There is little time to waste imprisoning! Let the mauls and greatswords rain blows upon our enemies! Let their blood run down the Diamond Quarters and into the Deep Roads!

johnhughthom
07-13-2010, 11:52
We don't know what we are facing here, if we exile somebody we risk exiling someone who could be of great help. There seems to be an assumption last nights events were perpetrated by one person, do we really think one dwarf working alone could assassinate a noble like Lady Dordan? We need time to evaluate what is going on here, what we face and how we can tackle it. Randomly exiling or executing people is not the way forward. When we have evidence to do so yes, not on a whim.

Renata
07-13-2010, 13:35
Are you volunteering to do your duty of slaining as many darkspawn as possible before your demise, my lady, opposed to imprisonment?

No, I am not volunteering to die.

Reenk Roink
07-13-2010, 20:43
Imprisonment is for weaklings.

vote: Reenk Roink

Vote: Renata

And if you don't get executed (hopefully you just don't get exiled) then I'll wait for you to come out of prison and make sure of it myself. :stare:

Renata
07-13-2010, 21:44
Bring it on, weenie boy. :D

Secura
07-13-2010, 23:06
The round will conclude in one hour, at 00:00 GMT.

I'm pretty exhausted at the moment, as I just got home from a gig with some friends, so it's likely that the writeup for this phase will come tomorrow morning; you can begin sending orders in for Night One starting now, at any rate.

:bow:

Double A
07-14-2010, 02:13
ooc: Why do I get the ominous feeling that Renata is a joker?

Too late now...

Romanic
07-14-2010, 09:08
ooc: Why do I get the ominous feeling that Renata is a joker?

Too late now...

Renata is getting imprisoned, not killed, so a joker won't win at this point. But I think your feelings are wrong, Renata is not a joker, and I have a strong feeling that there's no joker in this game. I don't see Secura putting with this nonsense role.

johnhughthom
07-14-2010, 10:48
Renata is getting imprisoned, not killed, so a joker won't win at this point. But I think your feelings are wrong, Renata is not a joker, and I have a strong feeling that there's no joker in this game. I don't see Secura putting with this nonsense role.

I would be very surprised if Secura put a joker role in, I'm more curious to see if there is a Silent Sister in the game. Would be a difficult role for somebody to pull off.

Khazaar
07-14-2010, 12:36
I would be very surprised if Secura put a joker role in, I'm more curious to see if there is a Silent Sister in the game. Would be a difficult role for somebody to pull off.

That´s Game of Thrones, I can´t remember them appearing in Dragon Age Origins.

Renata
07-14-2010, 13:02
Jokers are stupid; if Secura put one in I'd lose all respect for her. (Kidding. Mostly.)

Anyone want to bring me a beer before I get chucked in jail?

johnhughthom
07-14-2010, 13:04
That´s Game of Thrones, I can´t remember them appearing in Dragon Age Origins.

Seeing as I have no idea what Game of Thrones is, I doubt I have it mixed up.

Secura
07-14-2010, 14:18
End of Day One

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Inside the Throne Room

No sooner had Endrin reclaimed his seat and given the word, the nobility descended into an array of accusations, insults and mock challenges; the King sighed wearily, turning to the small group of Grey Wardens in the corner of the room and gestured to them with a wave of his hand.

One stepped forward from the group, his footfalls soft upon the stone as he moved towards Endrin, his pace consistent and graceful. He was taller than his Warden companions, more physically refined and carried an aura of battle around his very being; it was clear to anyone who looked at the man that he had faced many years of fighting the darkspawn, and this was a sign of great honour to the people of Orzammar.

The man stopped by the king's side, and turned back to his host. The facial differences between the pair could not have been more distinguished as they seemed to silently communicate with one another; the exotic, dark-haired and well-kept face of the Warden bore a pair of hazel-hued eyes that remained focused upon the grey irises of the king, set into a weathered, pale face covered with a thick white beard. They were both old warriors, but age had taken a far greater toll upon the dwarf.

Duncan spoke, his tone being calm and reassuring, yet carrying across the room strongly enough to cause the tumult from the crowd to instantly fall into silence; all eyes fell on him with a mixture of animosity, uncertainty and respect.

"Have you reached a decision?"

The crowd began whispering hurredly, before one bold individual stepped forward, stooped into a bow, and then responded to the Grey Warden's question, kneeling before the throne.

"My l-lord, there has been... much di-discussion, and we've struggled to reach a majority agreement..." Pinman stuttered, struggling to maintain eye contact with either the king or his Warden spokesperson.

King Endrin sighed from his seat and moved to speak; Duncan, perhaps sensing this, spoke first, his voice tinged with encouragement for the kneeling Pinman.

"No agreement whatsoever?"

"W-well... some of us think that Renata should cool off in the cells for the night, my lord", the dwarf continued earnestly, "her behaviour thus far has been somewhat antagonistic!"

Duncan nodded, gesturing for Pinman to return to the crowd; with a further wave of his hand, his Grey Warden companions meandered through the gathering, finding Renata and motioning for her to move towards the Palace's exit. She nodded curtly, and traipsed off for a night on a cold, hard prison bed, her two makeshift jailors following close behind.

After the trio had departed, Duncan spoke again, encouraging the audience to return to their chambers or homes for the night and return to the Palace the next morning for Renata's release from the cells.

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Start of Night One
Night will end at 14:00 GMT, 15/07/10 or sooner if I have received orders from everyone!

Imprisonment
Renata: 3 - Double A, Beskar, Pinman

Alive: (17/17)
TheFlax
Double A
Beskar
Pinman
Renata - Imprisoned
civplayah
Chaotix
ArpeggiateTHIS
Yaseikhaan
Khazaar
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Captain Blackadder
autolycus
Reenk Roink
johnhughthom
God Emperor

Some things I wanna make clear, just so y'all know:
If you have two active abilities for a phase, you may only use one of the two for that phase.
If you have a Day Phase ability, you can PM me at any point, from the start of the phase until the write-up appears, to use it.
Some people have asked about items and such; the merchants will start to appear from Day Two onwards.

Beskar
07-14-2010, 15:33
Seeing as I have no idea what Game of Thrones is, I doubt I have it mixed up.

It is Dragon Age, at the Gladiator Arena bit in the Dwarf Place.

Secura
07-14-2010, 15:36
It is Dragon Age, at the Gladiator Arena bit in the Dwarf Place.

The Proving Grounds?

Double A
07-14-2010, 15:54
Wait, why is a copy of a Game of Thrones in the proving grounds?

TheFlax
07-14-2010, 15:56
There is a Silent Sister in The Calling also. (Second Dragon Age novel)

Secura
07-14-2010, 16:20
I have no idea what you're talking about. xD

Double A
07-14-2010, 16:30
It's a doorstopper fantasy series by George RR Martin, where no character is too important or too popular to be killed off.

Khazaar
07-14-2010, 17:12
Supposedly "A Game of Thrones" is the basis on which the background and people are based upon (very loosely). I think mostly the noir athmosphere and the killing of major characters have been carried over. If you´re looking for something to read you could do much worse than those books...

Double A
07-14-2010, 17:57
It's the physically opposite of Twilight.

Secura
07-15-2010, 19:36
End of Night One

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On the streets of the Diamond Quarter

There was silence in the Diamond Quarter; it was late and the brightly burning torches of the city had long been extinguished, with only the molten glow of the magma far below the reaches of the city illuminating the streets now. The dust had settled hours previously as the news of Lady Dordan's death had grown subdued around the city itself and instead headed behind closed doors.

The heavy stone doors of the Royal Palace opened a mite, releasing narrow shards of light from within; a short figure slipped out into the night, veiled beneath a charcoal-coloured cloak. The dwarf began to walk slowly down the quiet streets, mail-clad footfalls barely making an audible sound upon the cold ground; a pair of alert eyes flitted from left-to-right from the folds of the hoods as though expecting an unseen assailant to leap from the shadows, but nothing came and the dwarf continued to move.

The dwarf passed the sealed entrance to the Assembly, pausing briefly to embrace the silence that covered the city; the sensation of solitude lasted only a moment as the thudding footfalls of plate-metal permeated the peace, a gutteral battle-cry managing to cut through the air quicker than the swing of his axe could.

With a deft sideways roll and the flash of a silver blade against golden clasps, the blackened cloak fell to the stone to reveal Romanic, clad head-to-toe in sparkling chainmail and wielding both a pair of sharpened daggers and a look of intense determination.

The plate-clad assailant wheeled around with surprising agility and struck again with a heavy-handed vertical strike that Romanic narrowly evaded; the axe slammed down upon the cold stone where he had been stood and a crack emerged along the impact zone, such was the power behind the blow.

But there was no respite there; Romanic had barely managed to catch his breath before his foe recovered, raised the weapon and began swinging it horizontally, vertically, diagonally... strike after strike rained upon Romanic, though his agile frame managed to evade the attacks with ease.

The plate-clad dwarf grunted a sound of clear impatience beneath his helmet, and he instead turned to spinning his axe around his arms quickly, the hilt of the weapon attached to one of his gauntlets by way of a chain; Romanic dipped and weaved around, the spinning of the hatchet getting closer and closer...

*WHACK*

Romanic was thrown backwards a few feet from the force of the blow to his chest, his weapons scattering across the cold stone; his assailant had launched the weapon forward, catching Romanic off-guard before reeling the axe back with the chain. Again, showing surprising speed for one clad in platemail, the dwarf was towering above the fallen Romanic within seconds, preparing to deliver the final blow.

"No!"

The blow that should have ended the pitiful wretch's life instead thudded against a reinforced buckler; cold, unforgiving eyes glared from the narrow visor of the assailant's helm, trying to distinguish the identity of the defender while they both pulled and pushed to gain the upper hand.

With a forceful shove of his buckler, the hatchet still embedded within, the shield-bearing dwarf pushed the attacker back, who responded with a tug of his chain that pulled the defender to the ground; this gave the assailant time to evaluate the situation, which he deemed to be against him now that the number of foes had doubled, and he swiftly darted off into the darkness as quickly as he had appeared.

Romanic climbed to his feet, rubbing his stomach through his chainmail and thanking the ancestors for their untimely intervention; he turned to thank his saviour, but the shield-bearing dwarf had vanished too.

The sensation of solitude returned.

Secura
07-15-2010, 22:48
Day Two
Voting concludes at 00:00 GMT, 18/07/10

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On the streets of the Diamond Quarter

Town criers pour onto the streets as the city guards begin to light the torches, illuminating Orzammar for the day; the criers begin to shout the same message over and over to anyone who walked by.

"News of the hour! Renata falsely imprisoned by voting nobles... epic fail!"

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On the streets of the Commons

The merchants of Orzammar had been busy arranging their wares long before the guards had emerged; it took hours to haul equipment from homes to stalls, and then there was the presentation of it all... cuirasses fixed upon training dummies, swords propped up against walls. piles of sparkling gems and boxes lined with various tonics.

Two items particularly stood out for that day:
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Coat of Shadows
Armour
+2 Constitution, +33% chance to escape an encounter
This item requires a minimum bid of four gold and can only be worn by Rogues.

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Keen Dwarven Longsword
Weapon
+2 Strength
This item requires a minimum bid of two gold and can be wielded by anyone.

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In the Throne Room of the Royal Palace

Endrin drummed his stubby fingers upon his throne as his guests assembled before him; he offered Renata a weak smile which was met with a curt nod from the recently released prisoner.

"Our Grey Warden guests are not here currently, as they have business to attend to near the Deep Roads", the wizened monarch stated, "so it is up to you to find the truth behind Lady Dordan's death for the time being."

Endrin made a gesture with his hand, and the audience immediately began to argue amongst themselves about the guilty party's identity. The king sighed and resigned himself to listening to their accusations and counter-accusations.

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Alive: (17/17)
TheFlax
Double A
Beskar
Pinman
Renata
civplayah
Chaotix
ArpeggiateTHIS
Yaseikhaan
Khazaar
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Captain Blackadder
autolycus
Reenk Roink
johnhughthom
God Emperor

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johnhughthom
07-15-2010, 23:45
No kills, interesting. Of course the perpetrators of the previous kill may have decided to lay low to place the blame on Renata. I say Imprison: Renata again and see if their patience holds. Of course somebody may have found or saw something last night which could change that view...

Beskar
07-15-2010, 23:55
Imprison: Johnhughthom

Some-one couldn't resist keeping their hands out of my coin purse, heh? You theif.

johnhughthom
07-16-2010, 00:02
Imprison: Johnhughthom

Some-one couldn't resist keeping their hands out of my coin purse, heh? You theif.

I can think of much better places to put my hands honey. :kiss2:

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-16-2010, 00:10
No kills, interesting. Of course the perpetrators of the previous kill may have decided to lay low to place the blame on Renata. I say Imprison: Renata again and see if their patience holds. Of course somebody may have found or saw something last night which could change that view...

I wonder if mafia need a higher attack bonus than their target's armour bonus to make a kill? Without a narrative writeup of "X attacked Y but failed", it's a possibility that this did happen.

*Checking*

EDIT: Nope, there's nothing in the rules. Secura, could you shed some light on this? What are weapons and armour used for in this game?

johnhughthom
07-16-2010, 00:17
I believe an attackers strength must be higher than the targets constitution for an attack to succeed. You are correct of course, we may well have had a failed attack, or attacks, during the night. If so my position may well change.

Secura
07-16-2010, 00:31
The night phase write-up is complete; take a look, and lemme know what you think of the narrative. :3


*Checking*

EDIT: Nope, there's nothing in the rules.

There is; I was pretty thorough in both explaining and testing the mechanics for attacking and defending. :3


Secura, could you shed some light on this? What are weapons and armour used for in this game?

They have varied effects, which I wouldn't reveal in the rules because it'd just ruin the sensation of getting that cool new item otherwise; this is based upon an RPG, after all.

However, I will say that the most basic of weapons and armour essentially boost your Strength or Constitution; some items have other effects on mechanics that you'll come across in due course. :3


I believe an attackers strength must be higher than the targets constitution for an attack to succeed.

That is correct, as it says in the rules.

God Emperor
07-16-2010, 00:32
perhaps the armor/attack just influence the outcome of an assasination, that it may work like a standard rpg game. After all the game is seen as the sequel to Baldurs gate :p

oh Secura jost posted the answer :embarassed:

johnhughthom
07-16-2010, 00:45
Beskie lost some dough, Romanic revealed as dual dagger wielding (rogue?) victim of an attack. Was he on his way back from relieving Beskar of some of his wealth?

Renata
07-16-2010, 01:16
No kills, interesting. Of course the perpetrators of the previous kill may have decided to lay low to place the blame on Renata. I say Imprison: Renata again and see if their patience holds. Of course somebody may have found or saw something last night which could change that view...

I realize no one dead and all, but ...


The dwarf passed the sealed entrance to the Assembly, pausing briefly to embrace the silence that covered the city; the sensation of solitude lasted only a moment as the thudding footfalls of plate-metal permeated the peace, a gutteral battle-cry managing to cut through the air quicker than the swing of his axe could.


The plate-clad assailant wheeled around with surprising agility and struck again ...

(Et cetera.)

Are you for real?

johnhughthom
07-16-2010, 01:19
That was posted before Secura edited in the write up.

Renata
07-16-2010, 01:25
All right.

Pinman
07-16-2010, 01:32
Personally I think we can let Renata out, and see if anything else appears in the next night's writeup. Or alternatively, although I don't think its the better move, we could just kill her now. Imprisoning her again is unlikely to yield the maximal amount of information.

So lets see, whos been quiet. How about we Imprison: Captain Blackadder?

What do you have to say for yourself sir?

johnhughthom
07-16-2010, 01:38
Unimprison: Renata Let's see what today's discussion brings.

Reenk Roink
07-16-2010, 01:43
Double A is innocent.

Edit: Maybe innocent is too strong but he didn't do anything last night.

Edit Edit: Vote: Renata

Secura
07-16-2010, 01:47
Check the Day Phase post, it does state that Renata is no longer imprisoned; prisoners are released at the start of the next day phase automatically, no need for 'unimprison' votes.

I'm really starting to worry that I've made the game too complex or that I haven't explained things in enough depth now. :/

johnhughthom
07-16-2010, 01:49
Double A is innocent.

Edit: Maybe innocent is too strong but he didn't do anything last night.


If you are going to claim a tracker role you may as well tell us everything, if you are genuine you will be a target and if I was a defender I would want a bit more from you before deciding whether to defend you. Of course you may have protection, that would be two innocent defenders in a 17 person game, unlikely?


Check the Day Phase post, it does state that Renata is no longer imprisoned; prisoners are released at the start of the next day phase automatically, no need for 'unimprison' votes.

It was simply an Unvote, I wasn't 100% sure of the mechanics of unvoting an imprisonment vote.

Romanic
07-16-2010, 02:32
I wonder if mafia need a higher attack bonus than their target's armour bonus to make a kill? Without a narrative writeup of "X attacked Y but failed", it's a possibility that this did happen.

*Checking*

EDIT: Nope, there's nothing in the rules. Secura, could you shed some light on this? What are weapons and armour used for in this game?

That's a bizarre question to ask after reading a no-kill writeup, when the said writeup didn't have any information that an attack happened. It's like you knew about it beforehand.

vote: Arpeg

recap (EST times)

17h45: Secura posts a no-kill writeup.
18h45: JHT makes the 1st post, noting a no-kill.
19h10: Arpeg asks about the night attack rules and mention the possibility of a failed attack.
19h22: Secura edits the writeup, that now shows a failed attack on me.

Renata
07-16-2010, 02:32
Check the Day Phase post, it does state that Renata is no longer imprisoned; prisoners are released at the start of the next day phase automatically, no need for 'unimprison' votes.

I'm really starting to worry that I've made the game too complex or that I haven't explained things in enough depth now. :/

Don't worry about it Secura; I was going to ask if I could vote since I was far too tired to re-read the rules, though. :) Guess I can.

Double A
07-16-2010, 02:41
That's a bizarre question to ask after reading a no-kill writeup, when the said writeup didn't have any information that an attack happened. It's like you knew about it beforehand.

vote: Arpeg

recap (EST times)

17h45: Secura posts a no-kill writeup.
18h45: JHT makes the 1st post, noting a no-kill.
19h10: Arpeg asks about the night attack rules and mention the possibility of a failed attack.
19h22: Secura edits the writeup, that now shows a failed attack on me.

This is one of those moments where you just slap your forehead and get on with your life.

vote: aTHIS

Secura
07-16-2010, 03:06
Guess I can.

Yep, you're free to vote. :3

Pinman
07-16-2010, 03:33
Unimprison; Vote: Mr. THIS

Pinman
07-16-2010, 03:34
To make it legal:

Unimprison; Vote: Mr. THIS

Chaotix
07-16-2010, 05:19
Double A is innocent.

Edit: Maybe innocent is too strong but he didn't do anything last night.

Edit Edit: Vote: Renata

There was a kill attempt. Renata is everything short of cleared innocent right now. We know she's not that axe-murderer. If we find there's more than one attacker, then we'll look at her again.

Vote: Reenk Roink

Chaotix
07-16-2010, 05:21
Actually, after reading the votes on ArpeggiateTHIS more carefully... it makes more sense to me right now.

Unvote, Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

Double A
07-16-2010, 05:23
Wait, why are you voting for Reenk?

seireikhaan
07-16-2010, 05:25
Vote: Chaotix. Very scummy.

Chaotix
07-16-2010, 05:30
Vote: Chaotix. Very scummy.

This with regards to the first post or the second one (which corrected the first)?

seireikhaan
07-16-2010, 05:33
This with regards to the first post or the second one (which corrected the first)?
Both.

Chaotix
07-16-2010, 05:53
Suit yourself. You'll come around to the correct way of thinking eventually. I don't find you suspicious.

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-16-2010, 09:13
Let me get this straight: I'm being voted for guessing at why there were no kills? You guys are awesome! It only takes a bout of what you call "rational thought" to come up with the answer I did, here, take a look at the thought process behind it:
1. *Scratches head* No kills? Weird!
2. Has there ever been a game where mafia didn't make a first night kill? Surely they'd at least try.
3. What would lead no kills? A failed attack, a-la Beefdom?
4. Maybe there was, you know, a failed attack!
5. What would lead to this failed attack? Hey, shiny armour!
6. *Posts in-thread question*

Either way, I don't like this early tracker claim. Why reveal so soon, without any sign of protection? Just begging to be killed. Vote: Reenk Roink

Splitpersonality
07-16-2010, 09:29
Though I can admit StaccatoTHAT does look pretty scummy, perhaps it was just his first instinct to check for a mistake :shrug:


I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.


Imprision: Chaotix, bandwaggon much? :P

Captain Blackadder
07-16-2010, 11:18
Let me get this straight: I'm being voted for guessing at why there were no kills? You guys are awesome! It only takes a bout of what you call "rational thought" to come up with the answer I did, here, take a look at the thought process behind it:
1. *Scratches head* No kills? Weird!
2. Has there ever been a game where mafia didn't make a first night kill? Surely they'd at least try.
3. What would lead no kills? A failed attack, a-la Beefdom?
4. Maybe there was, you know, a failed attack!
5. What would lead to this failed attack? Hey, shiny armour!
6. *Posts in-thread question*

Either way, I don't like this early tracker claim. Why reveal so soon, without any sign of protection? Just begging to be killed. Vote: Reenk Roink

It is called stating the obvious we all know why kill attempts do or do not occur we require no one to bring it up. What you are doing is a common scum tactic to appear to be town.

Secura
07-16-2010, 12:16
The writeup for the Day Phase is now up, including the items available for auction for this phase.

You should all have received an update on your current monetary situation, so I hope to return from work and see lots of bids. :P

Reenk Roink
07-16-2010, 12:32
Either way, I don't like this early tracker claim. Why reveal so soon, without any sign of protection? Just begging to be killed. Vote: Reenk Roink

Why do you have to take the bait?

Unvote, Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

By the way, my role starts with no gold or items nor do I earn anything, so can you guys please make some donations to me to help me with basic needs? Secura is begging and donating allowed?

Secura
07-16-2010, 12:36
Secura is begging and donating allowed?

It is, yes; any donating of gold has to be through me though (IE, I get PM'd from the benefactor with a sum of gold to be given, then I pass the gold onto the receiver), so remember that. :3

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-16-2010, 13:17
It is called stating the obvious we all know why kill attempts do or do not occur we require no one to bring it up. What you are doing is a common scum tactic to appear to be town.

Maybe you should consider that I am town.


Why do you have to take the bait?

Unvote, Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

So you're admitting that you're not a tracker? Then I was right to guess that you weren't. Nothing scummy about that.

Either way, you should all consider the fact that I am quite wealthy, as I have 10 gold to my name. Compare my riches with yours. Do I look like scum to you?

johnhughthom
07-16-2010, 13:18
Wealth = innocence?:inquisitive:

Guess I should go kill myself now. :shame:

God Emperor
07-16-2010, 13:40
Vote: Reenk

Unless you can come up with a complete roleclaim. If it is true, that you can investigate,then I guess we all could raise fonds to help you out

Captain Blackadder
07-16-2010, 13:55
Wealth = innocence?:inquisitive:

Guess I should go kill myself now. :shame:

As should I anyway it is always the toffs that have it out for the little guy in the world.

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-16-2010, 14:44
As should I anyway it is always the toffs that have it out for the little guy in the world.

At this moment in time it appears to be a working class uprising against the aristocracy, heh.

johnhughthom
07-16-2010, 14:48
The last game I was in that had money involved was Star Wars at CFC (our esteemed host loved that game), I was the Emperor and we won the game by buying the neutral's votes. I don't think I will look upon your (supposed) wealth as a sign of innocence Mr THIS.

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-16-2010, 14:52
The last game I was in that had money involved was Star Wars at CFC, I was the Emperor and we won the game by buying the neutral's votes. I don't think I will look upon your (supposed) wealth as a sign of innocence Mr THIS.

Well then you'll kill a rich innocent who could buy armour to defend himself against mafia attacks.

johnhughthom
07-16-2010, 14:54
Well then you'll kill a rich innocent who could buy armour to defend himself against mafia attacks.

I'm more curious as to why you really posted how much gold you had, a trap for some unsuspecting thief?

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-16-2010, 15:04
I'm more curious as to why you really posted how much gold you had, a trap for some unsuspecting thief?

*Facepalm* ..you can steal?

TheFlax
07-16-2010, 15:34
*Facepalm* ..you can steal?

Curious, Beskar earlier mentioned he had been robbed, did you miss that?

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-16-2010, 15:40
Curious, Beskar earlier mentioned he had been robbed, did you miss that?

I noticed, but didn't think of it when I posted how much gold I have.

Romanic
07-16-2010, 15:42
Why do you have to take the bait?

Unvote, Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

By the way, my role starts with no gold or items nor do I earn anything, so can you guys please make some donations to me to help me with basic needs? Secura is begging and donating allowed?

I have to admit that I am puzzled as to why you start giving all this information, like candies on Halloween.

If you can track people (or actually, know that they didn't do anything at night), why would you reveal on day 2 instead of waiting to collect more information? It seems to me that such an early reveal isn't wise unless you have undeniable proof that someone is a killer.

johnhughthom
07-16-2010, 15:46
Also, what are the "basic needs" you want money for?

Romanic
07-16-2010, 16:04
The bandwagon on Arpeg picked up awfully quick.

unvote: Arpeg; Imprison: Pinman;

3rd on the bandwagon. Vote without giving a reason. Scummy, scummy. Would you care to elaborate on your vote Pinman?

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-16-2010, 16:05
Oh, and I also came up with further evidence to prove my innocence, if you'll believe it. Closer examination of the night writeup revealed this:

"The plate-clad assailant wheeled around with surprising agility and struck again with a heavy-handed vertical strike that Romanic narrowly evaded; the axe slammed down upon the cold stone where he had been stood and a crack emerged along the impact zone, such was the power behind the blow."

I do not carry an axe; I carry a dwarven shortsword. Make of that what you will.

civplayah
07-16-2010, 16:08
StaccatoTHAT
:laugh4:

johnhughthom
07-16-2010, 16:09
Mr THIS is clearly lyrium addled, there is no other excuse for his "evidence".


I will bid: ? gold for the armor.

pm Secura, the bids are supposed to be private. Now everybody knows how much they need to bid to beat you...

TheFlax
07-16-2010, 16:13
Just an observation here, but weapons seem only useful to people who try to kill. (AFAIK, Secura mentioned in her preview thread that some people can vig, there might be an SK also) Anyways, it might be good to keep the weapons away from those doing the killing. Not sure exactly how though, since bidding is secret. Any ideas?

Pinman
07-16-2010, 16:14
The bandwagon on Arpeg picked up awfully quick.

unvote: Arpeg; Imprison: Pinman;

3rd on the bandwagon. Vote without giving a reason. Scummy, scummy. Would you care to elaborate on your vote Pinman?

I voted for the person I thought seemed most guilty at the time.

johnhughthom
07-16-2010, 16:16
Pool money together and make sure we win the bidding, you need people you trust to do that of course. I don't see any clearly innocent people as yet, or even anybody unlikely to be scum.

civplayah
07-16-2010, 17:43
pm Secura, the bids are supposed to be private. Now everybody knows how much they need to bid to beat you...:embarassed:

Splitpersonality
07-16-2010, 18:05
:laugh4:

I was waiting for someone to pick up on that :elephant:

johnhughthom
07-16-2010, 19:05
:embarassed:

For one gold I'll edit your bid out of my quote too. :laugh4:

Romanic
07-16-2010, 19:23
I voted for the person I thought seemed most guilty at the time.

Why did you think that Arpeg is the most guilty?

Khazaar
07-16-2010, 19:24
Imprison: ArpeggiateTHIS

Secura
07-16-2010, 19:35
Gosh!

Just got back from work and I have a helluva lot of PMs to go through... so much more fun than watching kite-surfers fail hard.

Y'all rock. <3

Renata
07-16-2010, 19:38
Oh, and I also came up with further evidence to prove my innocence, if you'll believe it. Closer examination of the night writeup revealed this:

"The plate-clad assailant wheeled around with surprising agility and struck again with a heavy-handed vertical strike that Romanic narrowly evaded; the axe slammed down upon the cold stone where he had been stood and a crack emerged along the impact zone, such was the power behind the blow."

I do not carry an axe; I carry a dwarven shortsword. Make of that what you will.

This isn't evidence at all if you can't prove it. Can you? (This is an honest question; I'm losing track of the rules every five seconds.)

Renata
07-16-2010, 20:04
Never mind, asked Secura. You could kindasorta of prove it, but it would take a couple of days. You could sell an item to "her" (the merchants) and it would be put up for sale again the next day. But she has no money yet today with which to buy it.

Renata
07-16-2010, 20:20
Curious, Beskar earlier mentioned he had been robbed, did you miss that?

vote: TheFlax

Trying to make something look suspicious that actually isn't. Aimed at the current bandwagon leader and without a vote attached, it's triply scummy.

TheFlax
07-16-2010, 20:37
vote: TheFlax

Trying to make something look suspicious that actually isn't. Aimed at the current bandwagon leader and without a vote attached, it's triply scummy.

I was questioning his apparent shock at the reveal that someone can steal, when Beskar said as much earlier in the round. You're giving me an intent I simply did not have. I'm on the fence about ArpTHIS.

Secura
07-16-2010, 20:38
I'm losing track of the rules every five seconds.

That isn't a good sign... :/


Never mind, asked Secura. You could kindasorta of prove it, but it would take a couple of days. You could sell an item to "her" (the merchants) and it would be put up for sale again the next day. But she has no money yet today with which to buy it.

This is correct; basically, the merchants currently have no gold.

Once the two items are sold, all proceeds are added to their pockets, which can then be used to buy items from you guys; essentially you PM me during the night to sell the item with a price you think it's worth, we'll haggle a little... once a price is agreed, you get some of the merchant's gold and they will try to peddle your old stuff during the next day phase.

You are able to hold multiple items (say... you're wearing a chainmail cuirass but you're also holding a leather chestpiece and some standard clothes), but you only gain benefits from the one you've equipped in that slot... if you change items around (say you win the sword, for example, and want it to replace your dagger), let me know.

I'm hoping that wasn't too complicated... not sure I should keep the game going if it gets too hard for people to understand. >.<

Renata
07-16-2010, 21:04
(It's not your fault, Secura. I'm in five games right now, just wrapped up a sixth (and about to start a new sixth) on another site; and it's all gone a bit blurry. It's not just this game, it's all of them. Just I'm already familiar with the rules of all the rest.)

Double A
07-16-2010, 22:11
Let me get this straight: I'm being voted for guessing at why there were no kills? You guys are awesome! It only takes a bout of what you call "rational thought" to come up with the answer I did, here, take a look at the thought process behind it:
1. *Scratches head* No kills? Weird!
2. Has there ever been a game where mafia didn't make a first night kill? Surely they'd at least try.
3. What would lead no kills? A failed attack, a-la Beefdom?
4. Maybe there was, you know, a failed attack!
5. What would lead to this failed attack? Hey, shiny armour!
6. *Posts in-thread question*

Either way, I don't like this early tracker claim. Why reveal so soon, without any sign of protection? Just begging to be killed. Vote: Reenk Roink

It befuddles me too... why would Reenk, an experienced mafia player, roleclaim D2, when there is no promise of protection, or even a protection role?

Beskar
07-16-2010, 22:13
unvote; vote: Reenk Roink

Mafia.

Reenk Roink
07-16-2010, 22:21
Unvote: ArpeggiateTHIS
Vote: Beskar

Anyone except me and Double A is an OK choice. I really need money to talk further. Pool together like 20 gold minimum and we can talk more or give me a good trinket.

Double A
07-16-2010, 22:37
Unvote: ArpeggiateTHIS
Vote: Beskar

Anyone except me and Double A is an OK choice. I really need money to talk further. Pool together like 20 gold minimum and we can talk more or give me a good trinket.

Why would we pay you money when you don't even give us a bleepin' reason?

Pinman
07-17-2010, 00:27
Unvote; Imprison: Reenk Roink

Now theres somebody more scummy than Arpeggiate. But it doesn't make sense to kill a potential power role.

Chaotix
07-17-2010, 01:05
Don't give Reenk any money, but let him live.

If he needs cash, he can earn it the hard way or be jailed for stealing it. He's obviously some sort of casteless thug who goes sneaking around following people at night.

Double A
07-17-2010, 01:10
Imprison: Reenk until he tells me why he wants 20 gold, aside from money being good to have.

Pinman
07-17-2010, 01:13
Imprison: Reenk until he tells me why he wants 20 gold, aside from money being good to have.

I don't think you can vote and imprison - Secura?

Beskar
07-17-2010, 01:13
I think he is the thief who actually robbed me last night, he should be sent into exile for stealing to redeem himself infront of the darkspawn. He is no honest dwarf.

(As for that 20 gold, it is most likely part of his victory condition. To rob us all.)

Double A
07-17-2010, 01:17
Mah bad.

unvote, imprison: Reenk

Chaotix
07-17-2010, 01:22
Mah bad.

unvote, imprison: Reenk

Don't bother. Trust me, that's a wasted vote.

You don't need to vote for a thief to put him in jail, so why should you vote for Reenk?

Captain Blackadder
07-17-2010, 01:45
vote reenk you are really putting of scummy vibes.

Double A
07-17-2010, 01:47
Don't bother. Trust me, that's a wasted vote.

You don't need to vote for a thief to put him in jail, so why should you vote for Reenk?

ooc: Game mechanics ≠ rp mechanics

johnhughthom
07-17-2010, 01:50
Imprison: Reenk

He's certainly giving off "more interested in making money to fulfil his VCs than helping the town win" vibes, but scum? I don't think it's likely, imprison him and see what happens tonight.

autolycus
07-17-2010, 02:04
Imprison:Reenk
If he's a power role, he's safe, even if he can't use his power. If he's scum, he's blocked.

johnhughthom
07-17-2010, 02:07
I think he is the thief who actually robbed me last night, he should be sent into exile for stealing to redeem himself infront of the darkspawn. He is no honest dwarf.

(As for that 20 gold, it is most likely part of his victory condition. To rob us all.)

So where's your vote then?

Beskar
07-17-2010, 02:24
So where's your vote then?

{ I voted for him earlier then he OMGUS voted me. }

Reenk Roink
07-17-2010, 02:25
Leaving a life of organizational poverty and serving the community for this:

https://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1456/pronger.jpg (https://img691.imageshack.us/i/pronger.jpg/)

I humbly accept my fate :bow:

johnhughthom
07-17-2010, 02:26
Aww, that's not the Beskar retort I was expecting, tired tonight?

Chaotix
07-17-2010, 05:22
Unvote, Vote: Reenk

I'd rather he be exiled than imprisoned.

Beskar
07-17-2010, 08:53
I'd rather he be exiled than imprisoned.

(Same, if he is the thief, do we really want some one going around robbing us and taking our money?
What would imprisoning him serve? nothing at all.

Vote to remove him from the game.)

Secura
07-17-2010, 11:16
Anyone who has placed a bid on one of the items and been beaten by another bid should have received a PM stating this fact; if you've bid and haven't received a PM, you currently have the highest bid.

:bow:

Renata
07-17-2010, 12:50
I think he is the thief who actually robbed me last night, he should be sent into exile for stealing to redeem himself infront of the darkspawn. He is no honest dwarf.

(As for that 20 gold, it is most likely part of his victory condition. To rob us all.)

This post is so ridiculous it has to be fake. If I thought it would do you any good I'd vote you for it.

God Emperor
07-17-2010, 13:26
just out of curiosity , how much money did you lose Beskar?

Beskar
07-17-2010, 13:34
just out of curiosity , how much money did you lose Beskar?

( All of it. Even though it wasn't much.

Also, Renata's post doesn't make sense to me. )

johnhughthom
07-17-2010, 13:42
Also, Renata's post doesn't make sense to me.

Nor to me.

Captain Blackadder
07-17-2010, 13:47
( All of it. Even though it wasn't much. )

Perhapes she is the thief that is the only thing I can think of. :)

Beskar
07-17-2010, 13:49
Perhapes she is the thief that is the only thing I can think of. :)

( She was imprisioned. I doubt she can steal while in prison. )

Captain Blackadder
07-17-2010, 14:05
Just a joke I admit it makes no sense to me either. Though if this was a movie like law abiding citizen I wouldn't put it past her.

johnhughthom
07-17-2010, 14:07
What's with the brackets Beskie?

TheFlax
07-17-2010, 16:24
I'm going to echo Renata's sentiment. I think Beskar's whole "Reenk Roink" must the thief because he's asking for lots of gold is rather far fetched. Especially because he brings it up almost out of nowhere to justify what is in fact an OMGUS. Also there is the certitude with which everything related to that is said.

Having played another game where gold is used (on CFC), I know that asking for gold is not necessarily indicative of anything. I asked for gold nearly each round because my ability was powered by 5 gold and it was very much pro-town. (Sort of like a detective.)

Doesn't mean Reenk Roink is pro-town, but doesn't mean either he should be lynched for it. Its a terrible reason in my opinion.

Vote: Beskar (in protest to a whole bunch of people following shoddy reasoning.)

johnhughthom
07-17-2010, 16:29
Tally:

Imprison:

Reenk Roink: 4 (Pinman, AA, jht, auto)
Mr THIS: 1 (Khazzar)
Pinman: 1 (Romanic)
Chaotix: 1 (split)

Exile/Murder:

TheFlax: 1 (Renata)
Chaotix: 1 (khaan)
Mr THIS: 1 (R/R)
Reenk Roink: 5 (Chaotix, Mr THIS, God Emperor,Beskie, Capt B)
Beskar: 1 (Flaxy)

Not voting: autolycus (Seen him about elsewhere, Silent Sister?)

When does the round end Secura?

johnhughthom
07-17-2010, 16:35
Doesn't mean Reenk Roink is pro-town, but doesn't mean either he should be lynched for it. Its a terrible reason in my opinion.

Vote: Beskar (in protest to a whole bunch of people following shoddy reasoning.)

Well your vote for Beskar is a terrible response, vote to imprison Reenk and tie it up.

autolycus
07-17-2010, 17:27
Tally:

Imprison:

Reenk Roink: 4 (Pinman, AA, jht, auto)
Mr THIS: 1 (Khazzar)
Pinman: 1 (Romanic)
Chaotix: 1 (split)

Exile/Murder:

TheFlax: 1 (Renata)
Chaotix: 1 (khaan)
Mr THIS: 1 (R/R)
Reenk Roink: 5 (Chaotix, Mr THIS, God Emperor,Beskie, Capt B)
Beskar: 1 (Flaxy)

Not voting: autolycus (Seen him about elsewhere, Silent Sister?)

When does the round end Secura?

You tallied me as voting for Reenk Roink's imprisonment, which I did, and then you say I haven't taken a position? I resent that, johnhughthom

Beskar
07-17-2010, 17:32
Well your vote for Beskar is a terrible response, vote to imprison Reenk and tie it up.

Also it is highly flawed as well. Because it can't be an OMGUS, as I voted first. Also, I didn't pull it out of no where, it is pretty solid reasoning, that some one who goes around stealing from others might have a condition to generate a certain amount of money.

Romanic
07-17-2010, 17:51
Tally:

Imprison:

Reenk Roink: 4 (Pinman, AA, jht, auto)
Mr THIS: 1 (Khazzar)
Pinman: 1 (Romanic)
Chaotix: 1 (split)

Exile/Murder:

TheFlax: 1 (Renata)
Chaotix: 1 (khaan)
Mr THIS: 1 (R/R)
Reenk Roink: 5 (Chaotix, Mr THIS, God Emperor,Beskie, Capt B)
Beskar: 1 (Flaxy)

Not voting: autolycus (Seen him about elsewhere, Silent Sister?)

When does the round end Secura?

Round ends at midnight GMT (in about 7 hours)

civplayah is the one who has not voted this round.

johnhughthom
07-17-2010, 18:06
You tallied me as voting for Reenk Roink's imprisonment, which I did, and then you say I haven't taken a position? I resent that, johnhughthom

Apologies. :shame: I knew it was civplayah, don't know how I got you mixed up. Both CFCers I guess.

civplayah
07-17-2010, 19:20
vote: Reenk Roink

Secura
07-17-2010, 20:18
Tally:

I already keep track of every single thing that happens in the game (roles, income, Str/Con changes, votes, bids, night actions) with Excel, but thanks for posting this nonetheless, good sir. :bow:


When does the round end Secura?

Yup, it's midnight GMT; I'll still take bids or votes up to that point. :3

johnhughthom
07-17-2010, 20:19
Updated Tally:

Imprison:

Reenk Roink: 4 (Pinman, AA, jht, auto)
Mr THIS: 1 (Khazzar)
Pinman: 1 (Romanic)
Chaotix: 1 (split)

Exile/Murder:

TheFlax: 1 (Renata)
Chaotix: 1 (khaan)
Mr THIS: 1 (R/R)
Reenk Roink: 6 (Chaotix, Mr THIS, God Emperor, Beskie, Capt B, civplayah)
Beskar: 1 (Flaxy)


I already keep track of every single thing that happens in the game (roles, income, Str/Con changes, votes, bids, night actions) with Excel, but thanks for posting this nonetheless, good sir. :bow:

No problem, I do it as much for the other players as the host so not everybody has to dig through the thread to see who'll be lynched. I had an idea you would have some system for keeping up with everything.

TheFlax
07-17-2010, 20:29
Well your vote for Beskar is a terrible response, vote to imprison Reenk and tie it up.

Point. Though it would tie it up anymore. Unvote, Imprison: Reenk Roink


Also it is highly flawed as well. Because it can't be an OMGUS, as I voted first. Also, I didn't pull it out of no where, it is pretty solid reasoning, that some one who goes around stealing from others might have a condition to generate a certain amount of money.

Looking back, I was wrong about the OMGUS. Nevertheless, I don't think the reasoning is particularly strong. Odds are as good that he's pro town or (and this wouldn't be a first for Reenk Roink) nothing at all.

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-18-2010, 10:13
Odds are as good that he's pro town or (and this wouldn't be a first for Reenk Roink) nothing at all.

At the same time, I'm still curious as to the reasoning behind many of the things he's said. First we had the "tracker" comment, which I can only assume was a bad attempt at drawing in lynchbait. Second, we have the "gold" comment.

I'd guess that Reenk is town, but only because he'd have been stupid to draw this attention to himself if he were scum. Perhaps he's a casteless, Dust-town dwelling beggar? He may be our thief, in that case.

EDIT: Here are the comments:

Double A is innocent.

Edit: Maybe innocent is too strong but he didn't do anything last night.

Edit Edit: Vote: Renata

He gave no reason for his claim that Double A was innocent and then blindly voted Renata despite the fact that she'd just been in jail!


Why do you have to take the bait?

Unvote, Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

By the way, my role starts with no gold or items nor do I earn anything, so can you guys please make some donations to me to help me with basic needs? Secura is begging and donating allowed?

After everybody jumped onto my bandwagon about the mafia-kill comments, he reveals that he has no armour or weapons and in doing so, gives signal to mafia that he is a certain kill the forthcoming night. (No armour = basic constitution, presuming that his constitution isn't that of a High Dragon)

Returning to the point I made before I looked over Reenk's comments, I think it would be wise to assume that he's a beggar. At least, this ties in with his claims that he has no money or items. It also could grant him some sort of "watcher" ability, given that a beggar could probably blend in with the crowd or hide down a back-alley.

This begs the question: is he worth keeping alive? I'd say yes, and my kill vote will change to reflect that. Unvote; Imprison: Reenk Roink

EDITEDIT: Dang, it's after the deadline.

Secura
07-18-2010, 10:23
End of Day Two

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Inside the Throne Room

Another day had passed and, for the most part, Endrin felt it had followed the course of the previous day; plenty of accusations, claims and questions, but little progress for the majority of the day. His thoughts lingered to Lady Dordan and the cause of her untimely death... did any of his guests know what had happened?

He sighed softly, and turned back to the matter at hand; with a wave of his hand, he motioned for a member of the crowd to come forward; proud and assured of himself, Beskar paced forward, bowed to the king and sunk to one knee.

"What have you decided today?", Endrin asked.

"We've learned that Reenk is a thief and should be punished for his crimes!", the kneeling Beskar replied confidently.

Endrin furrowed his brow at the dwarf's enthusiasm and gusto; "and you are all in agreeance with this?"

The crowd murmured and nodded as they agreed with Beskar, with calls for Reenk's head being the main point of agreeance among them, yet there were some whisperings among the collective that didn't quite share the same views and wondered what Reenk was even supposed to be guilty of.

Before Beskar could continue speaking, another voice interjected, hands flailing towards the doors leading to the lobby; "it's the Grey Wardens, my lord, they have returned!"

Duncan had returned with his two compatriots, one of whom looked completely dishevelled and worse-for-wear; they sat him in a corner away from the king's audience, then Duncan moved around to stand beside Endrin.

"I am afraid that the subject of your ire has just fled from the Palace", he said softly with a slightly bemused look upon his tanned face, "he collided with my elven friend here."

Beskar climbed to his feet, indignant and deeply offended that Duncan found the situation to be funny; "we must apprehend the thief, off with his head, throw him into the magma, feed him to nugs..."

Duncan shook his head and turned to King Endrin and spoke in a hushed tone that was barely audible, the king himself having to strain hard to hear what the Warden was saying.

"I believe he was fleeing towards the Deep Roads, my friend... I doubt you will see him again."

King Endrin Aeducan sighed heavily, rose from his throne and walked out of the room in silence, leaving Duncan to usher everyone to their beds and take Reenk Roink's discarded items to his own chambers.

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Start of Night Two
Night will end at 15:00 GMT, 19/07/10 or sooner if I have received orders from everyone!

Exile/Execution
Reenk Roink: 6 - Beskar, civplayah, Chaotix, ArpeggiateTHIS, Captain Blackadder, God Emperor

Alive: (16/17)
TheFlax
Double A
Beskar
Pinman
Renata
civplayah
Chaotix
ArpeggiateTHIS
Yaseikhaan
Khazaar
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Captain Blackadder
autolycus
johnhughthom
God Emperor

Fled into the Deep Roads:
Reenk Roink

Apologies for a slightly late writeup... the heavy workload of my job and the game's taken it's toll; when this phase ends, I should be working 9-2 for the rest of the week so should have more time for the game. :<

Double A
07-18-2010, 15:37
No role reveal? :sad:

Secura
07-18-2010, 19:09
Duncan's got to assess his discarded stuff first...

Double A
07-18-2010, 19:11
So how long till the reveal? 3 days? That's a bit much for a small game.

Reenk Roink
07-18-2010, 19:15
After everybody jumped onto my bandwagon about the mafia-kill comments, he reveals that he has no armour or weapons and in doing so, gives signal to mafia that he is a certain kill the forthcoming night. (No armour = basic constitution, presuming that his constitution isn't that of a High Dragon)

I never implied I had no basic armor or weapons in that post, just no trinkets or special items which I wanted. You will probably get my awesome armor and weapons soon. :yes: it will suck when you learn what you have lost, and I just wanted 20 gold and a trinket. :laugh4:

Edit: I would advise the town to look at the people who started voting for me later in the round seemingly out of the blue, especially Chaotix who rode the fence for what seemed like an eternity only to later decide he'd rather see me gone than just checked for a night at a point when it seemed like the imprison movement was gaining strength.

Secura
07-18-2010, 22:58
So how long till the reveal? 3 days? That's a bit much for a small game.

Why is it so important that you know immediately?

Revealing roles immediately after their death is a massive boon to town-aligned roles; I think that, considering the wide array of abilities that the town has and other mitigating circumstances, immediate reveals are not entirely necessary, and as such you'll have to wait at least a phase or two to find out about the lynched/dead.

Basically, you need a little more patience; Duncan will reveal everything about Reenk in due course.


it will suck when you learn what you have lost, and I just wanted 20 gold and a trinket.

The very fact you did this still baffles me... could you explain via PM what your angle was in taking this course of action?

Double A
07-19-2010, 01:15
Sorry, I'm just curious about his role.

Reenk Roink
07-19-2010, 01:23
The very fact you did this still baffles me... could you explain via PM what your angle was in taking this course of action?

Were you not the one who wrote my background where my sick dog needed a restoration spell cast that would cost 20 gold and an item of some magical power? :inquisitive: You think I could be heartless enough to let him die! :furious2:

Double A
07-19-2010, 01:25
ooc: A restoration spell costing TWENTY FREAKING GOLD? I could buy all the non-unlimited elfroot in the game and make poultices out of them for LESS! That's like a level one skill!

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-19-2010, 08:52
Were you not the one who wrote my background where my sick dog needed a restoration spell cast that would cost 20 gold and an item of some magical power? :inquisitive: You think I could be heartless enough to let him die! :furious2:

She said "via PM", presumably so that you wouldn't reveal anything important in thread.

johnhughthom
07-19-2010, 14:56
I read it as a joke, are there any dogs in Orzammar? He would have one of these if he had a pet:


https://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp139/johnhughthom/aardvark-14342.jpg






pic blatantly stolen from TWC Dragon Age thread.

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-19-2010, 15:56
I read it as a joke, are there any dogs in Orzammar? He would have one of these if he had a pet:



Which, if he were actually telling the truth, would point to him being a Grey Warden with a Mabari Hound, heh.

Secura
07-19-2010, 16:12
The phase is now over; I'm going to start working through the results and writeup over the course of the day.

:bow:

Double A
07-19-2010, 17:25
Which, if he were actually telling the truth, would point to him being a Grey Warden with a Mabari Hound, heh.

Then he probably could just ask his buddy for free...

Secura
07-19-2010, 19:46
End of Night Two

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Tucked up in bed...

The night passes by without incident, leaving sixteen people to assemble before King Endrin later in the day.

Secura
07-19-2010, 19:47
Day Three
Voting concludes at 21:00 GMT, 21/07/10

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On the streets of the Commons

The merchants of Orzammar had been busy arranging their wares long before the guards had emerged; it took hours to haul equipment from homes to stalls, and then there was the presentation of it all... cuirasses fixed upon training dummies, swords propped up against walls. piles of sparkling gems and boxes lined with various tonics.

Following the success of the previous day, where they made a total of seventeen gold, the merchants declared that they would be willing to buy any unwanted equipment from the citizens of Orzammar... for a reasonable price of course!

Additionally, they had some new wares for sale:

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The Chameleon's Clasp
Trinket
+2 Constitution, cannot be tracked
This item requires a minimum bid of six gold and can be worn by anyone.

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The '1' Ring
Trinket
+1 Strength, +1 Constitution, +1% chance to escape from an encounter
This item requires a minimum bid of six gold and can be worn by anyone.

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In the Throne Room of the Royal Palace

The king's guests assembled in the Aeducan Throne Room to see that their esteemed host's usual seat was empty; the tanned-skinned Warden was stood in front of it, arms folded and eyes constantly scanning across the room until everyone was in and the doors were shut.

"I am glad to see that you all made it through the night safely", he said with a soft smile visible beneath his trimmed facial hair, "but we have urgent business to attend to."

Duncan turned around and picked up a sizeable warhammer that had been resting on the edge of the throne, then turned back to the crowd and urged them all to look over the well-crafted weapon. He could see that many struggled to lift it, such was the strength of it's previous wielder, and he contemplated retrieving it immediately... but Endrin had been insistent, they had to see for themselves where their suspicions had led.

"This belonged to Reenk Roink", the Grey Warden continued, "and I am sure that you all know what the insignia upon the stone means."

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The expressions of the crowd turned sour upon seeing the imprint upon the warhammer's stone, and a stark realisation hit them; it was johnhughthom who spoke up first.

"So... Reenk Roink was a member of th-"

Duncan interjected with a sharp nod and a sharper glare; his smile had vanished entirely, and his face bore signs of disdain and regret over the actions taken by the guests. The Grey Wardens and the Legion of the Dead shared much in common, and he felt that there was a sense of kinship between the rarely-trusted Wardens and shunned Legionnaires, particularly when it came to the darkspawn.

"It is likely that he rejoined his fellow legionnaires in the Deep Roads; as I understand it, it's rare that a legionnaire enters Orzammar, and we have no idea what brought him back to the city."

The audience stirred, muttering among themselves until a loud thud shook everyone to the core; ArpeggiateTHIS had dropped the weapon, but Duncan actually welcomed this interruption, using the break in the chatter to speak again.

"Regardless of this turn of events, the king wishes for you to select who you find most trustworthy to have his discarded weapon, in addition to your usual duties of finding the culprit for Lady Dordan's death", Duncan continued, before taking the heavy maul from the hands of a struggling noble and leaving the attending guests to begin their debate.

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Reenk Roink was Legionnaire Roldim.
https://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/Secura87/Dragon%20Age%20Origins/The%20Aeducan%20Succession/LegionnaireRoldim.jpg He was neutral!

Alive: (16/17)
TheFlax
Double A
Beskar
Pinman
Renata
civplayah
Chaotix
ArpeggiateTHIS
Yaseikhaan
Khazaar
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Captain Blackadder
autolycus
johnhughthom
God Emperor

Fled into the Deep Roads:
Reenk Roink

Regarding selling your stuff:
To sell an item to me, send me a PM with a price you want, and we'll haggle. :P
Once we're agreed on a price, you'll get the gold immediately and I'll sell your old stuff the next day.

Regarding the items of the fallen:
Simply vote with the item's name first and the name of the player you want to have the item second, which would be warhammer: Secura in this case
Remember that the winner is announced in-thread, but you won't be made aware of the item's effects unless you win it.

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-19-2010, 20:47
I'm going to confess this before anybody else does: I was thrown in jail for the duration of last night and thus prevented from carrying out my night actions. Roleblocked.

As you can see, there were no kill attempts made last night, and it only takes a rational townie to come to the conclusion that I should be lynched.

Before town makes an unnecessary kill, I'd like to plead my case before you and try and prove my innocence.

I am a dwarf, and a noble dwarf at that. As previously mentioned, I carry a Dwarven Shortsword and a set of Heavy Dwarven Armour, which add 1 to Strength and Constitution respectively. The first mafia kill attempt was made with an axe, I seem to recall. I do not have an axe, although I cannot immediately prove this to you.

My night actions are not kills but an investigation of sorts. As a noble dwarf, I am searching for a bride with whom I will begin a legacy. On night one, I investigated Romanic and found him to not be a female (am I right, Romanic?). Last night I attempted an investigation on Renata, but was thrown in jail before reaching her location.

Either way, it's up to you whether I should be exiled or killed, but let me assure you that you're making a grave mistake in thinking that I am scum. I've got nothing more to say that can redeem myself in your eyes, although I hope you will all consider my comments and make the connection for yourselves that I'm telling the truth. If not, you can always lynch me next round.

johnhughthom
07-19-2010, 21:32
Imprison: Mr THIS

Your story seems plausible, but until a better alternative comes along I think you would be best behind bars.

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-19-2010, 21:34
Imprison: Mr THIS

Your story seems plausible, but until a better alternative comes along I think you would be best behind bars.

Imprisonment, rather than plain exile, would be a much more rational view to dealing with me. Imprison: ArpeggiateTHIS.

Reenk Roink
07-19-2010, 21:49
A messenger carries a note:

:stupido:


Dwarves of Orzammar:

I suggest you take a look at the one called Chaotix, his words, and his actions, during last round, and consider what I told you. I would suggest nothing but an all out vote for execution for him. The one they call civplayah is worth looking at too.

As for my weapons, I'd give them to none among you as punishment for your stinginess. However, I guess Double A could borrow them to help against the Darkspawn. I will recollect them after the Darkspawn are defeated.

Imprisoning ArpeggiateTHIS seems very useless, if you are truly concerned about him, simply have him blocked again at night, that is to say IF the blocker wasn't working for the Darkspawn themselves...

P.S: To atone for your sins, please raise 20 gold and a trinket of value, and have it aside for me when I triumphantly return after you have defeated the Darkspawn.

Renata
07-19-2010, 22:01
Arpeg, what's the in-game purpose of this bride thing, given you wanted me to be it?

ArpeggiateTHIS
07-19-2010, 22:12
Arpeg, what's the in-game purpose of this bride thing, given you wanted me to be it?

It's just a minor victory condition, and I picked you completely randomly. I'm supposed to be looking for a spouse to marry, and I can investigate one player per night to see if they're female or not. If they are female, I'm supposed to be able to set up a romance of sorts. That's all I know at the moment, at least until I find a fair lady, eh?

johnhughthom
07-19-2010, 22:15
Female, or female noble Mr THIS?

Beskar
07-19-2010, 22:16
Actually, wouldn't that be the other way round, as in you know if they are male or not, and you are a Noble Hunter?

johnhughthom
07-19-2010, 22:18
Noble Hunters aren't looking for somebody to marry. I don't think a commoner is allowed to marry a noble, which is why I asked the question.

Beskar
07-19-2010, 22:22
Noble Hunters aren't looking for somebody to marry. I don't think a commoner is allowed to marry a noble, which is why I asked the question.

Noble Hunters are looking to make offspring of the Noble, in order to improve their own status, money, etc, etc

Secura
07-19-2010, 22:22
Noble Hunters aren't looking for somebody to marry.

That's your interpretation, though... just sayin'.

autolycus
07-19-2010, 22:26
I'd encourage whoever locked up ArpThis last night to do so again, but I think the group of us should do something else. I don't have much in terms of leads right now, so I'm going to follow the legionnaire's instinct and say Imprison: Chaotix.