The Mafia's comeback [Concluded]

[GeneralHankerchief]

Test.

[Andres]

Night 5


God Emperor was not going to Antonio. No, under no condition, he would go to that damnable place. He stayed at home. He locked himself in, put on a bulletproof vest, made sure all guns of his collection were loaded, and sat down, face towards his front door, extra strong espresso next to him.

The door bell rang.

God Emperor didn't move.

The bell rang again.

Nothing. Silence.

A crashing sound could be heard and God Emperor saw an axe breaking through his door. He was too perplexed to grab his gun when he saw a person in a long cloak stepping inside his house, carrying a plate of spaghetti bolognaise and a bottle of Chianti.

"Hello to you, good sir. Since everbody gets killed at Antonio, we'd like to use this promotion stunt to prove to the public that eating at Antonio doesn't get you killed!"

"But..." God Emperor stared angrily at the person holding the plate and the bottle, "MY DOOR!! ARE YOU INSANE?"

"Aren't we all, good sir? These are difficult times and we all act a bit weird. We'll pay for the damage at your door, but first, enjoy your meal."

The smell of the dish drove God Emperor nuts. He hadn't had a decent meal for days now and this spaghetti was just irresistable. He stood up, grabbed the plate and the bottle, walked over to the kitchen and started to eat.

He never noticed the mafioso coming near with the garotte. The only thing he regretted about the life that was coming to an end was not being able to finish his meal...


***

Skooma Addict was reading a book while sitting on a bench in the park, near the pool.

"How not to get killed while sitting in the park or eating at Antonio in Gameroomville for dummies".

An interesting read and a best-seller already in this little town.

"Aha, that's a useful hint," he said to himself, while the mafioso pulled the trigger of his MG34 and butchered Skooma Addict.


***

Day 7

Chief of Police Andres looked at the townsquare. The number of Gameroomvillagers was in decline.

"You should all start making babies!" Andres exclaimed. "Yes, we have the mafia threat, but that shouldn't stop you from fullfilling your duties, which is making babies. As this chart shows, our numbers are getting low. We need to make new people. Breed! And catch the scum that killed Skooma addict and God Emperor last night."


***

Alive (13)
Subotan
johnhughthom
Captain Blackadder
B Ray
Byzantine Knight
Methos
Nictel
Scienter
Chaotix
robbiecon
Winston Hughes
Greyblades
Kagemusha

Killed (12)
ATPG
DiY
Csargo
Yaseikhaan
GeneralHankerchief
Secura
Seon
Renata
Beefy187
Saregona
Skooma Addict
God Emperor


Lynched (5)
Jolt
dcmort93
Zack
Believer
classical hero

WoG (0)


***

It's now day. Day will last for +/- 24 hours.

Early announcement: I'll be gone from Friday 'til Monday for a short trip during the Eastern week-end. I won't have internet acces. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

[Renata]

Woot. God Emperor was a bit of a suspect of mine. Take that, scummers.

[Winston Hughes]

Sorry for the inactivity. My web access will continue to be pretty limited for a while yet, but I should at least be able to come online each day now. I'll get properly caught up later tonight, but for now I'm going to vote: Scienter, on account of his question to ATPG which seemed to imply that the lynch should be a straight choice between me and robbie, whilst deferring responsibility for that choice to pizza.

[DELETE_THIS]

I thought I voted last day. Hmm probably not then, where is Kagemusha?

[Skooma Addict]

*Inebriated and trembling ghost finger of suspicion is pointed at Robbiecon*

[ByzantineKnight]

Vote: Nictel I was planning on voting him yesterday but I didn't get on in time.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I thought I voted last day. Hmm probably not then, where is Kagemusha?

This time, at least, Kage's inactivity is forum-wide, so he is not specifically avoiding this thread.

[Chaotix]

Based on those kills, we can rule some people as unlikely to be mafia, based on the fact that otherwise they made unnecessarily risky moves.

Look at the votes yesterday- the winning vote was 3 on classical_hero, consisting of God Emperor, robbiecon, and me, Chaotix.

Behind that was just 2 votes on robbiecon, from classical and Scienter.

God Emperor was killed last night. It wouldn't serve robbiecon to be alone on a block of only one vote above his own lynch. GE is clearly innocent. So either robbiecon is innocent, or me and him are scumbuddies. Oh, and besides being scumbuddies on the same bandwagon trying to save his skin, we also killed off the only other person on that bandwagon, just to be sure you could find us. Okay, it's a horrible WIFOM argument, but there's just too much insane risk involved - risking one partner is ok, but two is unforgivable.

The only possible way that Scienter is scum is if classical_hero was the other one. I don't know what to make of that, given we'll never know whether we were right about him. I'd say it's unlikely.

The only other living person who voted is Subotan.

I'd say the most likely scenario is that all of the living scum decided to lay low yesterday and not vote at all.

So Vote: B_Ray

[God Emperor]

How can Scienter only be scum if classical hero is ?

Now having said that, here are my thoughts: myself and skooma addict have the thing in common that we were both active yesterday. . it is also common knowledge that the scum has from the beginning targeted all the active and good players. What I fear is that the scum are among the few active players left.. which would also be why two active people were killed, as that would increase the chance of the mafia dominating the votes..
therefore the right move is to focus on the active players and not the rather inactive ones. I have for some time wanted Chaotix gone as I somewhat suspected him, but I prefered that the scum would have killed him instead... as that has not happened, and we are running out of active players, it is time to remove Chaotix from the game.

[B-Wing]

vote: Nictel
I've been suspicious of him longer than anyone else, he's kept an extremely low profile since drawing votes earlier in the game, and Skooma Addict was the only person who voted for him last round.

[Scienter]

Sorry for the inactivity. My web access will continue to be pretty limited for a while yet, but I should at least be able to come online each day now. I'll get properly caught up later tonight, but for now I'm going to vote: Scienter, on account of his question to ATPG which seemed to imply that the lynch should be a straight choice between me and robbie, whilst deferring responsibility for that choice to pizza.

I wasn't deferring to APTG, I was asking him for his rationale since he made a conclusory statement.

[Renata]

How can Scienter only be scum if classical hero is ?

Seconded.

I'd prefer Nictel dead today, though. From way more activity than typical to dead silence after getting some pressure? Chaotix is at least talking and leaving a trail (edit: and has the chance of being too right at some point and getting himself night killed, if not mafia). Nictel is leaving nothing. He won't be killed whether mafia or not; he can't be left around for the end.

[Andres]

:inquisitive:

:whip:

[Who am i?]

Hello.

Why whipping?

[ByzantineKnight]

Hello.

Why whipping?

Not enough people are voting.

And on that note, Unvote; Vote: B_Ray If Nictel was mafia, chances are someone would have voted to save him already. B_Ray hopped onto my convienent vote with an even worse reason than I had.

[Csargo]

only four votes in 16+ hours.

[Captain Blackadder]

Vote B-ray

Whilst Nictel is suspicious I just have a gut feeling about Bray

[classical_hero]

Am I still in this? I see that my name has jumped from the lynched category to the alive category.

[Andres]

Am I still in this? I see that my name has jumped from the lynched category to the alive category.

No, you're dead. Fixed error; copy pasted the categories from wrong post.

[Renata]

Not enough people are voting.

And on that note, Unvote; Vote: B_Ray If Nictel was mafia, chances are someone would have voted to save him already. B_Ray hopped onto my convienent vote with an even worse reason than I had.

What?

First, it's not impossible that one of hte mafia is already dead, in which case nobody would be hopping anywhere. Second, if Nictel is mafia, it totally depends who the other one is as to how likely it is that they'd try to overtly contend a Nictel lynch versus hoping the townies screw themselves.

[Renata]

Finally, my main reason for lynching Nictel NOW is independent of the actual probability that he is mafia. B_ray, like Chaotix, is talking and leaving trails all over the place. As with Chaotix, there is a chance the mafia will kill him if he is not mafia himself. That will never happen with Nictel.

Today's lynch takes us to 15 left, 12 after tomorrow, 9 after that and 6 after that (which is lynch-or-lose if both mafia are still alive). So we have four lynches left including today, five if it's not a perfect mafia victory.

[Askthepizzaguy]

No, you're dead. Fixed error; copy pasted the categories from wrong post.

You seem to have me listed as dead erroneously, Andres.

Meanwhile, I'm going to vote for Chaotix.

[Renata]

Heh.

[Andres]

You seem to have me listed as dead erroneously, Andres.

*THROWS LIGHTNING BOLTS AT ATPG*

Fixed error.

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Byzantine Knight.

Your posting in this game feels strangely familiar...

[Kagemusha]

All my suspects still remain. Vote: B_Ray.Lets see if my initial hunch was a correct one.

[Greyblades]

Vote: B-ray

[robbiecon]

Vote: B_ray.

But Nictel is next in my list. He's very lurky as mafia.

[B-Wing]

Not sure what to say in my defense. Byzantine assumes I bandwagon-ed Nictel simply because he had voted for him first, when in fact I've already voted for Nictel at least 3 times in this game. In fact, Nictel is one of only two players I have voted for this entire game (the other being Jolt in round 1). Consistency must be widely regarded as scummy behavior, since 4 other people have lined up to lynch me.

All I can suggest at this point is to go ahead and start picking out the next lynchee, because the game's not gonna end once this round's over.

[Scienter]

How can Scienter only be scum if classical hero is ?


I think Chaotix is saying that because he and I both voted for robbiecon.

Nictel and B-Ray seem the most suspicious to me right now. I have no idea what Nictel's behavior is like in other games. The fact that Nictel missed a vote seems odd to me. If he's mafia, he'd be paying closer attention to the thread and I don't think he'd miss a vote. Vote:B_Ray.

[DELETE_THIS]

Not sure what to say in my defense. Byzantine assumes I bandwagon-ed Nictel simply because he had voted for him first, when in fact I've already voted for Nictel at least 3 times in this game. In fact, Nictel is one of only two players I have voted for this entire game (the other being Jolt in round 1). Consistency must be widely regarded as scummy behavior, since 4 other people have lined up to lynch me.

All I can suggest at this point is to go ahead and start picking out the next lynchee, because the game's not gonna end once this round's over.

How does B_Ray know that this round won't end the game? Sure it is highly unlikely, but this sentence seems to be a mafia slip-up.

Does that mean if Vote:B_Ray is scum I go free? That is if the kills go down which they won't it seems. How can I convince you of my innocence?!


I think Chaotix is saying that because he and I both voted for robbiecon.

Nictel and B-Ray seem the most suspicious to me right now. I have no idea what Nictel's behavior is like in other games. The fact that Nictel missed a vote seems odd to me. If he's mafia, he'd be paying closer attention to the thread and I don't think he'd miss a vote. Vote:B_Ray.

Oh it's complete scum like, that is if I was lurking. It is more lack of time to visit. If anyone would have me on FB they would believe me. ;-)

[Renata]

Nictel, that makes no sense. He's saying that lynching him will not end the game, which it won't if he is town. Like, by definition. So what exactly are you trying to say here?

[Chaotix]

Unvote, Vote: Nictel

Why scramble when there is nothing to scramble for?

Nictel is a good next choice, I doubt we'll overturn this bandwagon now... but without activity from anybody it's getting hard to determine who's acting scummy.

[Greyblades]

Nictel, that makes no sense. He's saying that lynching him will not end the game, which it won't if he is town. Like, by definition. So what exactly are you trying to say here?
It might not even end if he is scum, theres a good chance there might still be another scum out there.

[DELETE_THIS]

Nictel, that makes no sense. He's saying that lynching him will not end the game, which it won't if he is town. Like, by definition. So what exactly are you trying to say here?

I'll stop analyzing then.


Unvote, Vote: Nictel

Why scramble when there is nothing to scramble for?

Nictel is a good next choice, I doubt we'll overturn this bandwagon now... but without activity from anybody it's getting hard to determine who's acting scummy.

Scramble what? Sometimes I think people need to check their so called scumtells to see if they ever actually lead to mafia.

[Andres]

Voting concluded. Stand by for execution.

[Andres]

Day 7

With less than half the people of the Gameroomville left, Chief of Police Andres didn't have to raise his voice anymore.

"Dear inhabitants of Gameroomville," he began, "I note that with a vast majority of votes, the individual B_Ray has been deemed guilty of committing murder in the first degree."

B_Ray started shaking his head in disbelief. "It's not true! I'm innocent. Oh, please, no."

Chief of Police Andres looked a B_Ray, his eyes compassionate for a brief moment, before his face became hard.

"B_Ray, get up here."

Chief of Police Andres was standing on a platform, a wooden block next to him, a razor sharp axes in his hands.

With trembling knees, B_Ray made his way up to the execution platform, his face covered in tears.

Before placing his head on the chopping block, B_Ray looked at the Chief of Police. "Please, don't make me suffer. Do it quick, with one clean blow."

"That's a wish I can grant," Chief of Police Andres said, nodding.

B_Ray kept his head firmly in position on the chopping block. Chief of Police Andres swung the axe and after a dull "thud", B_Rays' head rolled off the platform, stopping right in front of the remaining villagers.

"Let's hope we got one," Chief of Police Andres said, a grim look on his face.


***

Tally

B_Ray: 7 (Kage, Greyblades, robbiecon, Scienter, BK, Nictel, Captain Blackadder) :skull:

Nictel: 2 (Chaotix, B_Ray)
Byzantine Knight: 1 (JHT)
Scienter: 1 (Winston Hughes)

Not voting: 2 (Methos, Subotan)


***

Alive (12)
Subotan
johnhughthom
Captain Blackadder
Byzantine Knight
Methos
Nictel
Scienter
Chaotix
robbiecon
Winston Hughes
Greyblades
Kagemusha

Killed (12)
ATPG
DiY
Csargo
Yaseikhaan
GeneralHankerchief
Secura
Seon
Renata
Beefy187
Saregona
Skooma Addict
God Emperor


Lynched (6)
Jolt
dcmort93
Zack
Believer
classical hero
B Ray

WoG (0)


***

It's now night. Night will last for +/- 24 hours. PM's please.

[Renata]

Anyone want to help me with player analysis after night? It will be tenplayers left.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Anyone want to help me with player analysis after night? It will be tenplayers left.

Yo. That's my forte.

[Skooma Addict]

Anyone want to help me with player analysis after night? It will be tenplayers left.

I shall dismiss my usual laziness and lend a helping hand. Or I'll just be a hindrance. We'll see.

[God Emperor]

Anyone want to help me with player analysis after night? It will be tenplayers left.

yeah same :) although I think it might be enough with just pizzaguy

[Who am i?]

Hello.


Kagemusha scum.

[Askthepizzaguy]

yeah same :) although I think it might be enough with just pizzaguy

I disagree. I prefer a redundant read, preferably by folks who have not read my analysis.

I don't want to be the only loudmouth with an opinion. Join me?

[Scienter]

Anyone want to help me with player analysis after night? It will be tenplayers left.

Sure. I don't get what Nictel was getting at below.




Oh it's complete scum like, that is if I was lurking. It is more lack of time to visit. If anyone would have me on FB they would believe me. ;-)

I was using the fact that he missed a vote to say the he was less scummy looking than B_Ray. So why so defensive? :inquisitive:

[B-Wing]

Thank you for the painless death, Andres. :bow:

[God Emperor]

I disagree. I prefer a redundant read, preferably by folks who have not read my analysis.

I don't want to be the only loudmouth with an opinion. Join me?

ofc:)

[Who am i?]

Hello.

That does not seem good idea/?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hello.

That does not seem good idea/?

Can you elaborate? And if so, please do.

[Who am i?]

Can you elaborate? And if so, please do.

Hello.

Why be loud when can be smart?!?

[Andres]

Thank you for the painless death, Andres. :bow:

You're welcome :bow:

Don't forget I'm a god in this game though, I could still bring you back to life, make you suffer and then kill you again.

You see God Emperor over there? Yep, he's running around, alive again. Now look

*** points finger at God Emperor who suddenly starts to shake and scream. His hair starts burning. Suddeny he catches fire and dies a horrifying dead ***

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA :devil:

[classical_hero]

I am surprised no went after Robbicon after my lynching especially after he OMGUS vote on me.

[Renata]

B_ray was the worst possible lynch of those being discussed, so of course he was lynched in a landslide.

[Csargo]

You're welcome :bow:

Don't forget I'm a god in this game though, I could still bring you back to life, make you suffer and then kill you again.

You see God Emperor over there? Yep, he's running around, alive again. Now look

*** points finger at God Emperor who suddenly starts to shake and scream. His hair starts burning. Suddeny he catches fire and dies a horrifying dead ***

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA :devil:

You.....You monster!

[Andres]

*** points finger at Csargo ***

I beg you pardon?

[Greyblades]

With hosts like these who needs the mafia?

[Csargo]

*** points finger at Csargo ***

I beg you pardon?

What I meant to say was: You glorious overlord; who is kind, gentle, and the fairest overlord in all the land. Who would never hideous maim anyone to prove a point. Nor would ever threaten violence against any of his subjects.

[Andres]

Good, my child. Very good.

*** Throws lightning bolts at Csargo ***

Bwahahahahaa :devil:

[Andres]

Night 7


robbiecon entered the Chinese restaurant just next to his house. He preferred Italian, but the only decent restaurant was Antonio and it wasn't a good idea to go there, given past events.

He entered the Chinese restaurant and was surprised to see an entirely different interior.

Looking around, he didn't see the cloaked figure coming near.

"Ehm, what is this? A new owner took over?"

"You could say so," the mafioso said.

"Oh, and what cuisine is served here nowadays then?"

"Italian."

"Italian?"

"Yes. Are you deaf?"

"No, I'm not."

The mafioso hit robbiecon in the face. And again. And again. He kept hitting him until he went down. The mafioso quickly picked a garotte out of his pocket and strangled him.

After it was over, the mafioso stood up and smiled.

"A perfect way to open our new restaurant."


***

Kagemusha was sitting in front of his house, cleaning his trusted katana. He knew damn well that he wouldn't stand a chance wielding a katana against a mafioso armed with a heavy machine gun, but he liked tradition.

After the blade was cleaned, he started to oil it.

He was so busy that he didn't notice the mafioso standing in the shadows.

"Nice weapon you have there."

Kagemusha instantly stood up, the katana in his right hand, his eyes looking in the direction of the voice.

"Haha, relax man, I'm not a mafioso."

"Only a mafioso would say he's not a mafioso," Kage said, and he jumped towards the shadow, and swung the katana.

"Ok, ok," the voice said, now coming from another side, "I am a mafioso."

"See! You're a mafioso!" Kage exclaimed and he quickly swung his blade in the direction of the voice.

"Yes, I'm a mafioso. And I eat blade swinging idiots for breakfeast," the mafioso said, right before letting his FN F2000 firing 30 rounds into Kage's head, killing him on the spot.

Before leaving the scene, the killer picked up Kage's blade.


***

Day 8

Chief of Police Andres was standing in front of the police building.

"Only 10 of you are left. It seems like the salad days are over. robbiecon and Kagemusha are no longer among us. Avenge their deaths, dear Gameroomvillagers."

That said, the Chief of Police calmly walked back to the building.


***

Alive (10)
Subotan
johnhughthom
Captain Blackadder
Byzantine Knight
Methos
Nictel
Scienter
Chaotix
Winston Hughes
Greyblades


Killed (14)
ATPG
DiY
Csargo
Yaseikhaan
GeneralHankerchief
Secura
Seon
Renata
Beefy187
Saregona
Skooma Addict
God Emperor
robbiecon
Kagemusha

Lynched (6)
Jolt
dcmort93
Zack
Believer
classical hero
B Ray

WoG (0)


***

It's day. Day will last for +/- 24 hours.

[Renata]

Cool. Much as everyone left is a suspect in some sense, I think the deaths of those two were pretty town friendly. Robbie in particular was very high risk for a mislynch.

[DELETE_THIS]

Lets see if Methos wakes up.

[Renata]

Is that supposed to be a vote, Nictel?

[DELETE_THIS]

No just a friendly reminder. I wonder if he is lurking of absent.

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Byzantine Knight.

[Chaotix]

Vote: Subotan

Back to square one.

[Renata]

Why? (Both of you.)

[johnhughthom]

I explained my vote last phase.

[Chaotix]

I explained my vote last phase.

Cop out.

Unvote, Vote: johnhughthom

Renata, I voted for Subotan again because he's been dodging and ducking low lately, out of the spotlight. Before he was all keen to try and get me lynched, but after that failed he shut up real quick and has just been making busy votes.

But johnny boy here is tripping my scum-dar with these short, unhelpful posts.

[Kagemusha]

People to lynch Chaotix, Subotan and Nictel. The last post of Chaotix is super scummy. How Subotan leaving you alone makes him less of a suspect? Self preservation thinking at its finest. Lynch Chaotix.

[johnhughthom]

But johnny boy here is tripping my scum-dar with these short, unhelpful posts.

I think you need to replace those batteries.

[robbiecon]

Aww. I was looking forward to being analysed by Askthepizzaguy, Renata, Skooma Addict AND God Emperor.

As I said before, Nictel would be my next choice.

[Winston Hughes]

vote: Chaotix

The accusation of jht is the latest in a series of opportunistic votes. Kage's analysis of self preservation is believable. I also recall the original reasons for Subotan's suspicion of Chaotix sounding quite plausible at the time.

[B-Wing]

I'd support the lynching of Chaotix as well, though my primary suspicion remains with Nictel.

[Csargo]

I'd go after Chaotix and Subotan.

[Skooma Addict]

Vote: Subotan

It's true, I haven't been terribly active.

However, Subotan has been actively focusing on me, because I am an easy vote and haven't shown up to defend myself. I wanted to see how long he would carry it on, but I think I've got a big enough hunch now.

Subotan's basically taking the easy way out and trying to look like he's concerned for the town's survival when he's really just skating along.
This seems a bit inconsistent as Subotan points out.


So even though you haven't been paying attention to thread, you "wanted to see how long Subotan would carry it on, but you think you've got a big enough hunch now"? How do you explain the fact that you're not paying attention to the discussion, so that you lodge a "random" vote, and that you've also been analysing my behaviour?

He replies with


I don't need to prove my innocence, because so far the only one accusing me is you, and for invented reasons.

And I can explain my vote perfectly. I popped in to the newest page of the thread, saw Kagemusha's name, and voted. Then I started working my way backwards, and saw that you had voted for me twice. I was about to change my vote there, but didn't feel like double-posting and so I decided to wait it out and see what you did the next day phase instead. And, surprise, surprise, you voted for me again.

The problem with your argument, Subotan, is that I was just genuinely inactive and concentrating on my own game until a few days ago, and didn't even realize this game had started until around the time I made my first post. Now that I plan to participate more, your argument will simply fall apart.

I believe your original reasoning was that someone ruthless as mafia, like me, would have killed ATPG night 1. Actually, I probably would have let him live and try to get him lynched instead. ATPG as a confirmed innocent is deadly because he continues to participate and everyone listens to him. And ATPG can usually catch me as a scum. But you weren't far off; I have made moves like that in past games- you correctly identified Star Wars as one of them.

He says "I don't need to prove my innocence, because so far the only one accusing me is you, and for invented reasons.
"(which I don't necessarily agree with, but on some level I do understand his point of view), but then he goes on to prove his innocence.


Another inconsistency.


And classical as the killer doesn't make too much sense either. In State of Corruption he tended to be rather savvy with his kill choices, not like what we're seeing here.

That's assuming that our killer's strategy is only as deep as "get rid of the good players".

As DiY said, there's a strong possibility that it's a ploy to provide easy cover and framing opportunities- in which case I could imagine anybody coming up with these kill choices- not just someone new or someone from CFC.
Very next post by him.


Well I'll back you up for now since you don't have a vote, ATPG.

Vote: classical_hero

But this is largely until more votes and options appear.

I am wary of Subotan and B_Ray, currently.

Votes for Classical Hero despite his strong feelings(and votes) for B_Ray, and even leaves the B-Ray bandwagon last phase to vote for Nictel, someone B_Ray has been adamant about lynching. There's quite a few behavioral contradictions in his actions.

Voting Record.


Chaotix

Day 2: No Vote
Day 3: Kagemusha
Day 4: Subotan
Day 5: Believer(after unvoting B-ray)
Day 6: Classical Hero(using ATPG's argument)
Day 7: Nictel

Hopped off B_Ray wagon to vote with B_ray against Nictel(Nictel is another suspect of mine so this is a good move on the surface. However, Nictel had no chance of being lynched this phase and Chaotix left the B_Ray wagon, someone he voted for before, to vote for someone with no chance of being lynched at the time.)

Everyone with exception to Subotan(who's voted him voraciously) is dead. WIFOMY reasoning could be used to explain why Subotan's still alive. Or perhaps Chaotix is indeed innocent. Unvoting B_Ray twice and joining the same wagon as him is something I find peculiar to do for someone you wanted dead on two separate occasions.

I threw Nictel in here too because he's been quite the slippery little scum this game and I want him on everyone's mind. :yes:

After his initial outburst against R_Ray and, I believe, Greyblades, he hasn't said a word regarding the pressure myself and others have put on him. Either he's genuinely not paying attention or he's deliberately dodging.

Nictel

Day 2: General Hankerchief
Day 3: No Vote
Day 4: No Vote
Day 5: Methos
Day 6: No Vote
Day 7: B-ray



Voting summary for all day phases

Day 2 Tally

Jolt: 6 (Kagemusha, God Emperor, Greyblades, B_Ray, Seon, Believer) :skull:
dcmort 93: 6 (Scienter, GeneralHankerchief, Zack, Jolt, JHT, Captain Blackadder)

Believer: 2 (Yaseikhaan, Csargo)
Beefy187: 2 (Skooma Addict, Winston Hughes)
GeneralHankerchief : 2 (Nictel, Saregona)
God Emperor: 2 (ByzantineKnight, Secura)
classical hero: 1 (Methos)
ByzantineKnight : 1 (dcmort93)
Chaotix: 1 (Subotan)
Greyblades: 1 (Beefy187)
Kagemusha: 1 (robbiecon)

Abstain: 0
Not voting: 3 (Chaotix, Renata, classical hero)

Day 3 Tally

dcmort93: 5 (Secura, Classical Hero, Zack, GH, JHT) :skull:

Nictel: 4 (Greyblades, Skooma Addict, B Ray, Renata)
Methos: 2 (BK, Believer)
B Ray: 2 (Methos, Kage)
Renata: 1 (robbiecon)
Beefy187: 1 (Winston Hughes)
Believer: 1 (dcmort93)
Chaotix: 1 (Subotan)
Kagemusha: 1 (Chaotix)

Abstain: 0
Not voting: 7 (God Emperor, Seon, Scienter, Nictel, Saregona, Beefy187, Captain Blackadder)

Day 4 Tally

Zack: 4 (Winston, Methos, Believer, Renata) :skull:
Kagemusha: 4 (Skooma, Scienter, classical hero, Captain Blackadder)

Saregona: 3 (GE, Zack, JHT)
Subotan: 2 (Chaotix, Kage)
JHT: 1 (Saregona)
Captain Blackadder: 1 (BK)
Methos: 1 (Beefy187)
Chaotix: 1 (Subotan)

Not voting: 5 (B Ray, Nictel, robbiecon, Seon, Greyblades)

Day 5 Tally

Believer: 4 (God Emporer, Chaotix, Classical_Hero, Methos) :skull:

Chaotix: 2 (Kagemusha, Subotan)
Nictel: 2 (B_Ray, Skooma Addict)
Winston: 2 (Beefy187, Saregona,)
Diamond "IT'S ALWAYS HIM, EVEN IF HE DOESN'T PLAY!!"eye: 2 (Greyblades, Believer)

Saregona: 1 (johnhughthom)
Beefy: 1 (Winston)
Methos: 1 (Nictel)

Not voting: 4 (Captain Blackadder, BK, Scienter, robbiecon)

Day 6 Tally

classcial_hero: 3 (God Emperor, robbiecon, Chaotix) :skull:

robbiecon: 2 (Scienter, classical_hero)
Nictel: 1 (Skooma Addict)
Chaotix: 1 (Subotan)

Not voting: 9 (Kagemusha, Winston Hughes, Greyblades, Nictel, Methos, Byz Knight, B_Ray, Captain Blackadder, JHT)

Day 7 Tally

B_Ray: 7 (Kage, Greyblades, robbiecon, Scienter, BK, Nictel, Captain Blackadder) :skull:

Nictel: 2 (Chaotix, B_Ray)
Byzantine Knight: 1 (JHT)
Scienter: 1 (Winston Hughes)

Not voting: 2 (Methos, Subotan)

[Chaotix]

Better face it, I'm just indecipherable. :clown:

I know this is just more WIFOM reasoning from me, but:

When I'm a townie I tend to be a lot less careful than when I am mafia or a pro-town power role. I post whatever is on my mind about the game and take risks without too much regard to how innocent or guilty it may make me look.

The end result is that I am usually on the chopping block, but low-down enough that I tread the fine line of being too innocent to be lynched and too scummy to be night-killed. It has its perks. I get to stay alive and therefore remain more interested in the game, but at the same time I'm a bad townie because I wind up confusing the rest of the town.

Anyway, that's what I'm doing here.

tl;dr I am a townie, get over it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

FOS Winston Hughes

FOS Chaotix

[Methos]

Sorry for the inactivity. Until I catch up on the last four pages, I'm going to go with Vote: Chaotix.

[Winston Hughes]

[B]FOS Winston Hughes

Is this just your traditional bout of paranoia about me, or something more substantial?

[DELETE_THIS]

About the pressure: I'm a vanilla townie. There.

vote: Chaotix

[Askthepizzaguy]

Is this just your traditional bout of paranoia about me, or something more substantial?

Oh my. :laugh4:

Flinch flinch flinch.

[Subotan]

So people start coming around to my point of view when I say absolutely nothing for a day? I must learn to shut up more often.


Everyone with exception to Subotan(who's voted him voraciously) is dead.
This is exactly the part of the game which I do worst at. I'm terrible at analysing data in voting records and such.


WIFOMY reasoning could be used to explain why Subotan's still alive.
I imagine that Chaotix wanted to reduce me to a lone voice howling in the wilderness, which would have resulted in me getting lynched eventually.


I threw Nictel in here too because he's been quite the slippery little scum this game and I want him on everyone's mind. :yes:

I would also be happy with a Nictel lynch tomorrow, especially given his latest post.

Chaotix's behaviour in his most recent posts is pretty erratic and damning anyway, and would make me suspicious even if we didn't have the archive full of other fishy behaviour which Skooma helpfully gathered for us.

Vote:Chaotix

[Scienter]

Vote:Nictel. He was #2 on my list after B_Ray.

[classical_hero]

I have to say that the mafia do not know what they are doing, so we should be looking for inexperienced people for the possible mafia, since the two kills last night do not make any sense at all, since they were very high up on the scum list, so any regular mafia would allow those two to be lynched and focus on other targets for their kills, or perhaps it is part of there strategy to confuse the hell out of everyone while they are killing at will. Anyway these kills last night do not make much sense to me.

[ByzantineKnight]

Vote: Winston That last post of his was the scummiest thing I've heard all game.

[Captain Blackadder]

Is this just your traditional bout of paranoia about me, or something more substantial?

Ohhh that is scummy talk tight there

Vote Winston

[Skooma Addict]

About the pressure: I'm a vanilla townie. There.

vote: Chaotix
:rolleyes:

[Greyblades]

I'm not sure about winston, would a mafia realy be that easily provoked into that sort of comment?

[Winston Hughes]

Oh my. :laugh4:

Flinch flinch flinch.

Just the paranoia, then. That's fine, but you should probably make it clear to the likes of BK and CB before they do something silly like lynch me.

Edit:


I'm not sure about winston, would a mafia realy be that easily provoked into that sort of comment?

ATPG ought to know that I wouldn't, which is why I know he's suffering from paranoia about me again.

[Renata]

Well so much for good intentions. I didn't get anythign done today and will be essentially useless the rest of the game due to the upcoming holiday. Good luck town.

[Chaotix]

Brilliant work, everyone.

Unfortunately, since I am not mafia, I have to disagree with your choice of lynch.

Unvote, Vote: Winston

Better choice than me, from my point of view.

[Kagemusha]

Brilliant work, everyone.

Unfortunately, since I am not mafia, I have to disagree with your choice of lynch.

Unvote, Vote: Winston

Better choice than me, from my point of view.

Lynch Chaotix.

[Andres]

Voting concluded. Stand by for execution.

[Andres]

Day 8

Chief of Police Andres was standing on the execution platform, next to the chopping block. In his hands, he held a package. Curious, he opened it and revealed an ancient katana. There was also a note in the package: "Dear Chief of Police, accept this as a token of our respect. The Mafia."

Chief of Police Andres wanted to throw the weapon away, but once he swung his arm, he felt how light the sword was. After making few movements to try out the balance, he smiled. "Neat!"

He looked down on the remaining villagers.

"Chaotix, come over here."

The condemned walked over to the platform. His face pale, he kneeled down and put his head on the chopping block.

Chief of Police Andres, eager to try out his new toy, didn't hesitate and struck.

The perfectly balanced and razor sharp bladed seperated Chaotix' head from his body in a much cleaner way than any axe could ever do. As Chaotix' head was rolling down, it transformed into a giant chocolate easter egg.

"Happy Easter, Gameroomville!" Chief of Police Andres said. "Since I'm going away for a well deserved vacation, this night will last for 96 hours! I suggest you use it to rest."

That said, Andres disappeared in a puff of smoke, leaving thousands of little chocolate eggs.


***

Tally


Chaotix: 4 (Winston, Nictel, Subotan, Methos) :skull:

Winston: 3 (Captain B, Chaotix, BK)
Nictel: 1 (Scienter)
BK: 1 (JHT)

Not voting: 1 (Greyblades)


***

Alive (9)
Subotan
johnhughthom
Captain Blackadder
Byzantine Knight
Methos
Nictel
Scienter
Winston Hughes
Greyblades


Killed (14)
ATPG
DiY
Csargo
Yaseikhaan
GeneralHankerchief
Secura
Seon
Renata
Beefy187
Saregona
Skooma Addict
God Emperor
robbiecon
Kagemusha

Lynched (7)
Jolt
dcmort93
Zack
Believer
classical hero
B Ray
Chaotix

WoG (0)


***

It's night. I will be gone with my wife and son until Monday evening, so this phase will be extended until then. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. Happy Easter all.

:bow:

[Askthepizzaguy]

ATPG ought to know that I wouldn't, which is why I know he's suffering from paranoia about me again.

"Sure, several people thought my comment was scummy, but since I said it, and people thought it was scummy, people oughta know I wouldn't say such scummy things as scum. That's the sort of mistake I never make."

:laugh4:

[Winston Hughes]

"Sure, several people thought my comment was scummy, but since I said it, and people thought it was scummy, people oughta know I wouldn't say such scummy things as scum. That's the sort of mistake I never make."

Not 'people', just you. And, in any case, the description of my comment as 'scummy' is way off the mark. I'm sure you could build some kind of plausible case against me if you put your mind to it, but all you offered was a blind FoS, leading me to suspect that your suspicions about me are mere paranoia. The obvious move, were I scum, would have been to ignore the FoS altogether. But I'm not scum, and thus I'm not at all concerned to invite some more meaningful accusations against me.

So, now that you think you've got me to 'flinch', why don't you go ahead and review my posts, and see if there's an actual case to be made there. Your word carries more than enough weight around here to get me lynched either way. But, given how rare it is for me to survive until the latter stages of a game, I rather hope you won't send me to the noose on such a lousy pretext as this.

[Kagemusha]

Noo! my old rusty and trusty katana has become trophy of sorts and now Andres will be probably chopping firewood with it!:bigcry:

[Chaotix]

And now the town is in a fix...

Well, keep an eye on Subotan, Winston, and Nictel.

Actually, better watch out for johnhughthom, Byzantine Knight, and Greyblades, too.

And don't forget about Scienter, Methos, and Captain Blackadder. You never know.

[ByzantineKnight]

And now the town is in a fix...

Well, keep an eye on Subotan, Winston, and Nictel.

Actually, better watch out for johnhughthom, Byzantine Knight, and Greyblades, too.

And don't forget about Scienter, Methos, and Captain Blackadder. You never know.

:O

WHY ME?! Take that back or I'll have Andres kill you again!!

[johnhughthom]

:O

WHY ME?! Take that back or I'll have Andres kill you again!!

Scum.

[ByzantineKnight]

Scum.

THATS IT!! Andres I order respectfully request that you kill Chaotix again.

[johnhughthom]

THATS IT!! Andres I order respectfully request that you kill Chaotix again.

Scum.

[ByzantineKnight]

Scum.

NOW YOU'RE JUST MOCKING ME!!!

[Who am i?]

Scum.

Hello.

Scum.

[johnhughthom]

Hello.

Scum.

Hiya.

[Chaotix]

I think we need a new category for the HOF 2011, called "Gameroom Rookie of the Year."

And Saregona would win that award, hands down.

I'd vote for him.

[ByzantineKnight]

I think we need a new category for the HOF 2011, called "Gameroom Rookie of the Year."

And Saregona would win that award, hands down.

I'd vote for him.

:yes:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Saregona is not a rookie. This person is a self-described alt account of someone.

We already know this person, don't know who.

[dcmort93]

Could it be Sasaki?

[Who am i?]

Saregona is not a rookie. This person is a self-described alt account of someone.

We already know this person, don't know who.

Hello.

:laugh4:

I am new.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hello.

:laugh4:

I am new.

Okay then, don't spam my inbox with saying otherwise, please. No offense, but if it's a joke... :shrug: I'm the only audience for your joke and I'm not laughing.

[God Emperor]

And now the town is in a fix...

Well, keep an eye on Subotan, Winston, and Nictel.

Actually, better watch out for johnhughthom, Byzantine Knight, and Greyblades, too.

And don't forget about Scienter, Methos, and Captain Blackadder. You never know.

is this your way of saying 'yes I was scum' by pointing out that all 9 players alive could be scum?
@ Skooma , thanks for making the post with the voting patterns :)

Edit Edit: I will most likely make a post later on based on skooma addicts own post.

[DELETE_THIS]

So Vote: Winston Hughes as in I know you are here. Hiding.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So Vote: Winston Hughes as in I know you are here. Hiding.

Is this your way of pretending not to know what phase it is?

Time to die, Nicky.

[DELETE_THIS]

Is this your way of pretending not to know what phase it is?

Time to die, Nicky.

Ah yeah I'm a bit too early. xD

Luckily you don't decide that, or DO you?

[Who am i?]

Hello.

Im Batman.

[ByzantineKnight]

Hello.

Im Batman.

Scum!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Scum!

Killed!

[ByzantineKnight]

Killed!

Duck!

[Diamondeye]

Duck!

Goose!

[ByzantineKnight]

Goose!

Thats no fair... You know my legs aren't as long as yours!

EDIT:

-noclip

Now you're mine :devil:

[Skooma Addict]

Ah yeah I'm a bit too early. xD

Luckily you don't decide that, or DO you?

*Ghost of Skooma hands Nictel a ceremonial tanto.*

Use this, and die with some semblance honor! :stwshame:

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Byzantine Knight

[Captain Blackadder]

its still night

[johnhughthom]

its still night

I know.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It's not night. This is all part of Andres' diabolical plan to blot out the sun from the sky. He's tricking us into thinking it is night, so it is perpetually night, so the mafia can murder us all. Murder us all, I say!

[Skooma Addict]

Semi-large, vanilla style...I must say, this has been a rather fun game thus far. Especially with so many scummy players lurking abouts.

[Diamondeye]

Semi-large, vanilla style...I must say, this has been a rather fun game thus far. Especially with so many scummy players lurking abouts.

Some of us even without being in the game.

[Andres]

Night 8

Scienter didn't notice the Fade until it was standing in front of her. The wind was howling, but the black cloak didn't stir in the wind.

The eyeless face turned towards her and showed a travesty of a human grin.

Scienter couldn't move. Fear had struck her. She wanted to run away, but the fear instilled by looking at the Eyeless one paralyzed her.

He unsheethed the blade forged at Thakan'dar, on the slopes of Shayol Ghul. The muscular, waxy white man opened his mouth, his voice making Scienter, who started to tremble uncontrollable, even more afraid.

"I need a human soul to complete this sword," he said, his voice the sound of a sharp object rasping bones.

"NOOO!" Scienter yelled and she unsheethed her own blade. She knew she didn't stand a chance against the Shadowman, but she didn't want her soul to be infused into his blade.

The Fade laughed loudly and blocked Scienters' attack easily. He riposted quickly and his blade pierced right through her heart. He lifted his blade and the pierced Scienter so that he could look into her eyes while she was bleeding to death.

"Good! Not many humans are capable of attacking one like me despite their fear. Your soul will make my sword powerful."


***

Captain Blackadder was smoking a cigar while reading "The Great Hunt" and listening to Irish folk music. When he looked up, he stared into a white face. Allthough a heavy rainstorm was terrorising Gameroomville, his black cloak didn't move.

"No. This can't be! You're just a fictional character!"

The figure laughed.

"I am not what you think I am."

"You're a Shadowman! A Fade. Shadowspawn!"

"No! I am not. I am the one who created it!"

The dark figure reached for saidin and suddenly the earth started shaking and lightning bolts came down on Captain Blackadder.

The Forsaken laughed and enjoyed how Captain Blackadder was reduced to dust and ashes.


***

Day 9

The face of Chief of Police Andres seemed to be set in stone. His cold blue eyes overlooked the remaining villagers while he was holding his hand on the katana, which was now decorated with a heron.

"Shadowspan killed Scienter. Captain Blackadder was killed by somebody who is able to channel the One Power. We must end this now, before the Dark One breaks out."

That said, Chief of Police Andres re-entered the building.


***


Alive (7)
Subotan
johnhughthom
Byzantine Knight
Methos
Nictel
Winston Hughes
Greyblades


Killed (16)
ATPG
DiY
Csargo
Yaseikhaan
GeneralHankerchief
Secura
Seon
Renata
Beefy187
Saregona
Skooma Addict
God Emperor
robbiecon
Kagemusha
Captain Blackadder
Scienter

Lynched (7)
Jolt
dcmort93
Zack
Believer
classical hero
B Ray
Chaotix

WoG (0)


***

It's now day. Day will last for 24 hours.

P.S.: Thanks for waiting :bow:

[DELETE_THIS]

So Vote: Winston Hughes as in I know you are here. Hiding.

This. Again. Now on time.

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Byzantine Knight

Scum.

[God Emperor]

What makes Byzantine knight scum , JHT ?

[johnhughthom]

What makes Byzantine knight scum , JHT ?

You want me to.... lay out a case? Haven't you played a number of games with me in the past?

[God Emperor]

lol.. who knows.. you even bother to vote and post on fairly regular basis... so perhaps it encouraged me to be just a little naive :p

[Askthepizzaguy]

You want me to.... lay out a case? Haven't you played a number of games with me in the past?

No ATPG case, just a reason beyond "I think they scummy"

[johnhughthom]

His posting reminded me of the Animus. Where he was scum. Like me. But I've been totally different this game so I can't be scum. Byzantine Knight is though. Scum that is.

[ByzantineKnight]

Lies! All of it!!

I didn't try and make nearly as many jokes in the animus ^_^

[B-Wing]

So let me clarify this situation... If there are two mafia still left, and neither is lynched this time, will it be Game Over? There's 7 alive now. 1 will get lynched, 2 will die at night, and then there would be 2 townies and 2 mafia, meaning automatic game over, right? But if the night phase passes and the game is still going, that means there are 3 townies and 1 mafioso left?

[Scienter]

It's probably good that I'm dead, I'm on vacation in st barth and I keep forgetting to check the Internet. :grin:

[Renata]

B-ray: that's correct.

[Skooma Addict]

Lies! All of it!!

I didn't try and make nearly as many jokes in the animus ^_^
lol Less meaningful posts = less scummy? Ah yes, the Double A defense! You're not trying to control the game or even defend yourself really, so I guess it's at least plausible. You are acting funny though compared to the animus, almost jolly even(been in my moon sugar?), but then again so is JHT. He almost seems to be...helping? A frightening prospect.

Oh yeah, and Nictel's just flaunting his scumminess now. Brazen and boldly. I approve. I almost hope he survives. :laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Kill the gruesome Hugheston! I'm Winston's biggest fan atm!!!

[Winston Hughes]

vote: ByzantineKnight

The highest postcount of any surviving player, and yet I've hardly noticed him over the course of the game. That, and the way he just laughed off jht's accusation, are exactly how I'd want to play it if I were scum.


Kill the gruesome Hugheston! I'm Winston's biggest fan atm!!!

Still no reason for that beyond your own paranoia? Come on, make a proper case already!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Still no reason for that beyond your own paranoia? Come on, make a proper case already!

When someone uses the word "paranoia" in a mafia game, and demands a "proper case", that's when you know they've been afflicted by the guilty faerie.

This is like saying "You have me dead to rights, but unless you post a big case on me, I insist no one listens to you. If you put out the effort, and make a case, then my death somehow just became okay..."

Guilty guilty guilty. Also you just said "if I were scum", which is what scummy people say constantly.

[Greyblades]

...Seeing as I've made that sort of defense myself as a townie I'm more inclined to believe he's innocent, not much mind you but...
Vote: Byzantian Knight.

[Subotan]

So....Vote:Nictel has slipped off the radar?

[ByzantineKnight]

Greyblades. I expected better of you... My name is spelled Byzantine ^_^

And Vote: Winston for continually being incredibly scummy.

EDIT: And Winston I usually have a higher than normal post count. You'll have to come up with a much better excuse if you want to join your scumbuddy JHT in voting me.

[johnhughthom]

Late stages of mafia games are such fun, so much paranoia around. If I were scum I'd be laughing right now.

BK, I demand you produce a proper case a that shows Winston and I are scum buddies. :rolleyes:

[Chaotix]

This post is useless now. Let's find a use for it....

Winston and ByzKnight are innocent.

Subotan is guilty.

Lynch Subotan.

[ByzantineKnight]

Late stages of mafia games are such fun, so much paranoia around. If I were scum I'd be laughing right now.

BK, I demand you produce a proper case a that shows Winston and I are scum buddies. :rolleyes:

Now I feel like a king! Bring me a Bacon Cheezeburger. And make it a double!

Ya'll voted me at the same time for awful reasons. Everyone and their cousin's little baby sister knows that a quick one-two is enough to get younguns who aren't payin the game much mind to vote for the target as we can see here evidenced by poor Greyblades who was deceived by your scummy ways. Lawd have mercy on his soul.

Why don't you like rednecks man?

[ByzantineKnight]

@Chaotix: If Winston is innocent I will eat my fake plastic crown!

[Methos]

Vote: ByzantineKnight I thought he was scummy earlier in the game, but I assumed it was me being annoyed at him.

[Winston Hughes]

@BK

It's not the high post count, it's the fact that I've hardly noticed you despite the high post count. Maybe that's just down to my own failure to pay proper attention over the course of the game, or maybe it's because you've been doing a great job of hiding in plain sight. Right now, I'm betting on the latter. But I must admit that your most recent posts have been quite impressive if you are scum, and have got me wavering.


When someone uses the word "paranoia" in a mafia game, and demands a "proper case", that's when you know they've been afflicted by the guilty faerie.

This is like saying "You have me dead to rights, but unless you post a big case on me, I insist no one listens to you. If you put out the effort, and make a case, then my death somehow just became okay..."

Guilty guilty guilty. Also you just said "if I were scum", which is what scummy people say constantly.

Ah, the 'scum always do that' argument. I was hoping for something more insightful, but I guess it'll have to do. :tongue2:

Let's imagine that you're wrong, though, and that lynching me will hand victory to the scum (or at least put them very close to the finish line). In that case, whose lynch would you be calling for right now?

[DELETE_THIS]

So....Vote:Nictel has slipped off the radar?

I hope not, I'm still here.


vote: ByzantineKnight

The highest postcount of any surviving player, and yet I've hardly noticed him over the course of the game. That, and the way he just laughed off jht's accusation, are exactly how I'd want to play it if I were scum.



Still no reason for that beyond your own paranoia? Come on, make a proper case already!

Like your proper case? vote: Winston Hughes

[Csargo]

So....Vote:Nictel has slipped off the radar?

Says the guy who hasn't show up for the past few rounds. :inquisitive:

[Methos]

Unvote/Vote: Winston

[Winston Hughes]

unvote, vote: Methos

Jumping from one bandwagon to another, eh? Just so long as someone other than you gets lynched...

You cooked up that whole thing about ATPG's OT comments yourself, didn't you? And after that briefly put you in the firing line, you went into hide mode, where you've been lurking ever since, popping up only to ensure that the vote counts don't leave you in danger of a late sea change.

[God Emperor]

Winston seems like a fine lynch :)

[Renata]

Oh wow, Winston. I was ok with you right up to there. I hope I'm not wrong, but something about the wording of that last post was just way too much.

[Winston Hughes]

Oh wow, Winston. I was ok with you right up to there. I hope I'm not wrong, but something about the wording of that last post was just way too much.

Uh oh. Now I'm doomed, and I'm probably taking the town's hopes down with me. :embarassed:

Why is it that everybody always thinks I'm a nervous scum whenever I'm really just enjoying the debate? I begin to wonder if I can ever be a frequent poster in an org game without getting myself lynched. Maybe I should just stick to the lurking in future.

[Renata]

Well, you could start with what motive Methos-as-scum would even have for changing his vote -- or hell, even voting at all -- given that he was in no conceivable amount of trouble at that point. I mean, why bother? From scum's perspective right at the moment, pretty much one townie is as good as another.

[Winston Hughes]

Well, you could start with what motive Methos-as-scum would even have for changing his vote -- or hell, even voting at all -- given that he was in no conceivable amount of trouble at that point. I mean, why bother? From scum's perspective right at the moment, pretty much one townie is as good as another.

Gah, you're probably right. I give up. It's too late now for anything but unvote; vote: ByzantineKnight.

[Methos]

I'm at a loss between Winston and BKnight. I'm inclined to believe its one of them, but not sure which. Thoughts?

[Andres]

Voting concluded. Stand by for execution.

[Winston Hughes]

I'm at a loss between Winston and BKnight. I'm inclined to believe its one of them, but not sure which. Thoughts?

For me, the lesson here has been brutal: when the endgame comes down to a more-or-less blind shot like this, the better move is to say as little as possible (regardless of which team you're on). Anything you say will only increase the likelihood of your getting lynched, which is the one outcome that you know will favour your enemy. Compare Greyblades and Subotan to myself and BK. Is there any decent reason to think either of them more likely innocent than either of us? I suspect it's just that we've spent the day giving our accusers ammunition, whilst they've been smart enough to keep their mouths shut.

[Andres]

Day 9

Byzantine Knight and Winston Hughes were being pushed forward by the other villagers.

Chief of Police Andres was standing on the execution platform, looking down at the two prime suspects.

"I am not impressed," he said, unsheething the heron-mark katana.

He sighed and turned his head towards both men.

"I should kill you both," he said.

Andres looked at one of the other villagers. "Please, blindfold me. Then put both men on a chopping block. I won't know which man is on which chopping block. I will strike once and fate will decide todays' lynch."

And so it happened.

Chief of Police Andres calmly walked over to the chopping blocks. He swung his blade and a head rolled down from the platform.

The agonised villagers looked straight into Byzantine Knights' surprised looking face.

Winston Hughes' eyes met the ice cold look from the Chief of Police.

"Good night."


***

Tally

Byzantine Knight: 3 (JHT, Winston, Greyblades) :skull:
Winston Hughes: 3 (BK, Methos, Nictel)

Nictel: 1 (Subotan)


***


Alive (6)
Subotan
johnhughthom
Methos
Nictel
Winston Hughes
Greyblades


Killed (16)
ATPG
DiY
Csargo
Yaseikhaan
GeneralHankerchief
Secura
Seon
Renata
Beefy187
Saregona
Skooma Addict
God Emperor
robbiecon
Kagemusha
Captain Blackadder
Scienter

Lynched (8)
Jolt
dcmort93
Zack
Believer
classical hero
B Ray
Chaotix
Byzantine Knight

WoG (0)


***

It's now night. PM's please. Night will last for +/- 23 hours.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Really decisive, guys.

[Renata]

LOL.

[Methos]

So is Andres the type who will wait until the morning update to inform us we lost, or can we consider that we're still playing as a sign that there's only one mafia left?

[ByzantineKnight]

So is Andres the type who will wait until the morning update to inform us we lost, or can we consider that we're still playing as a sign that there's only one mafia left?

I'm not mafia. The mafia get 2 kills even if there is just one left. That would explain the change in methods of killing. I would suggest taking a closer look at Chaotix's posts

[Renata]

So is Andres the type who will wait until the morning update to inform us we lost, or can we consider that we're still playing as a sign that there's only one mafia left?

Ask me at 5 pm. At this point I think all three options are possible:
1. Whoops, town loses.
2. Haha, town already won.
3. We're still playing, and there's one mafia left.

Though I wouldn't give equal weight to each.

[ByzantineKnight]

Ask me at 5 pm. At this point I think all three options are possible:
1. Whoops, town loses.
2. Haha, town already won.
3. We're still playing, and there's one mafia left.

Though I wouldn't give equal weight to each.

I'd go for 1 or 3 personally.

Well unless Andres decided that we should do a last-man-standing townie-battle-thingie once we eliminated the mafia Chaotix. Who by the way you haven't killed again...

[Chaotix]

I'd go for 1 or 3 personally.

Well unless Andres decided that we should do a last-man-standing townie-battle-thingie once we eliminated the mafia Chaotix. Who by the way you haven't killed again...

How interesting that you still believe me to be mafia...

In all likelihood both are still living, and in that case this game is already lost. I believe Subotan and Winston are the ones we've been looking for.

[ByzantineKnight]

How interesting that you still believe me to be mafia...

When you died the write-ups changed...

[Chaotix]

Did they?

Seems to me like they've always been short, to the point, and not overly descriptive, but I haven't been paying much attention. In that respect they haven't changed.

Anyway, there's nothing saying that a dead mafioso couldn't still be helping out with the kill methods. That's standard, me and Subo did that in Mafia IX (or whichever one we were both scum in).

Which is another reason why I think Subo is scum, he was pretty wary of me and trying to get rid of me right from the start. Probably thought I would get a good read on him.

[Andres]

Night 9

Methos was packing. He couldn't leave this place soon enough. Only an idiot would stay here and wait to get killed. But he was no idiot, oh no, he wasn't.

He looked at the ticket in his hand. One way ticket to Russia. Nobody would follow him there.

Anxiously, he was waiting for his taxi.

A horn was honking. Methos looked through his window. The cab driver seemed impatient. Good, he was in a hurry too.

Methos ran outside towards the cab. He picked 1.000 $ out of his pocket and threw the money at the cab driver.

"Hurry up man, to the airport. I'll tip you if we get there fast."

The cab driver had a surprised look on his face.

"I take it you're in a hurry, mister Methos?"

"Yeah man, come on, don't lose anymore time. Get me out of this place. There's 2.000 $ more for you if you drive fast."

The cab driver laughed.

"Look pal, just drive, ok?"

Suddenly, a silenced gun was pointed at Methos head.

"Get out of the vehicle, now."

"But, but..."

"You're under arrest, Methos!"

"How's this possible? I didn't do anything wrong."

"Get out of the vehicle."

While Methos was trying to get out of the vehicle, the cab driver was already standing next to him and smashed Methos with his face against the car. When he woke up, he was handcuffed. A strong cable attached the handcuffs to the car.

The mafioso could be heard yelling: "Fast, you said mister? Hahahahaha."

50 kilometers at an average speed of 150 km an hour later, there wasn't much left of Methos' skin. Miraculously, he was still breathing, barely noticable.

"We arrived at the airport, Mister. Where's my tip?" The mafioso laughed loudly.

Methos made a moaning sound, much to the surprise of the "cab driver".

"A tough one, eh? A real survivor. Doesn't matter, it ends here for you."

That said, the mafioso bent forward, holding a garotte in his hands, and strangled what was left from Methos.

After he had done his work, the mafioso left a note on his victims' body.


***

johnhughthom looked at the plane ticket in his hands. He wasn't a coward, oh no, certainly not. But this... He couldn't take it anymore.

After all that had happened, he trusted nobody, he'd drive to the airport himself.

He didn't tell anybody that he was leaving for Switzerland. The backpack was all he needed. Travel light.

For the last time, he looked at his house, before starting the engine of his car.

Luckily, it started. He grinned. For a moment, he feared his car would blow up, like you see so many times in the movies.

As he was about to hit the gas, an explosion blew up the car and half his house.

The mafioso stood up and threw away the bazooka.

Smoking a cigar, he slowly walked over to the remains of johnhughthom and looked at him, calmly enjoying his expensive smoke. After a few minutes, he left the scene, and a little note on the body...


***

Day 10

Chief of Police Andres was very nervous that day.

"Dear villagers, it's with a sad heart that I have to announce the untimely deaths of Methos and johnhughthom. We found notes on each of the bodies, each note having the same message: "you should have killed me while you had the chance"."

Chief of Police Andres held his breath for a few moments and then continued.

"Coincidentally, I have, ehm, won a ticket to go on a beer trip to Belgium. Don't worry, I'll depart tomorrow morning and will be back, eh, soonish. I am, of course, not leaving out of fear," Andres said, nervously smiling. "No, no, not at all. It's because I'm confident you'll find the mafia that I can safely leave this place. Yes, that's it. I'm sure you'll find the mafia, so I can esca..., I mean, go on a vacation. You're doing such an excellent job that I'm not longer needed here. Hehe."

He quickly wiped away some sweat before running back to the police building. The remaining villagers noticed that it was for the first time ever they saw him wearing a helmet and a bullet proof vest and in the company of 4 bodyguards...


***


Alive (4)
Subotan
Nictel
Winston Hughes
Greyblades


Killed (18)
ATPG
DiY
Csargo
Yaseikhaan
GeneralHankerchief
Secura
Seon
Renata
Beefy187
Saregona
Skooma Addict
God Emperor
robbiecon
Kagemusha
Captain Blackadder
Scienter
johnhughthom
Methos


Lynched (8)
Jolt
dcmort93
Zack
Believer
classical hero
B Ray
Chaotix
Byzantine Knight

WoG (0)


***

It's day. Day will last for +/- 24 hours.

[ByzantineKnight]

in the company of 4 bodyguards...

Alive (4)
Subotan
Nictel
Winston Hughes
Greyblades

:inquisitive:

http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/system/icons/157/original/Atrapitis.gif?1240007111

[Subotan]

WELCOME TO THE ENDGAME (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/heir-conditioning)


"You should have killed me while you had the chance"
This strongly suggests to me that Vote:Winston is our scum. I'm moving back into university accommodation tomorrow (I can give you proof if you want - uni regulations stipulate I have to be back in the Thursday before term starts), so my access will be limited to say the best. I shall endeavour to get access though throughout the day.

[ByzantineKnight]

WELCOME TO THE ENDGAME (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/showdown)


This strongly suggests to me that Vote:Winston is our scum. I'm moving back into university accommodation tomorrow (I can give you proof if you want - uni regulations stipulate I have to be back in the Thursday before term starts), so my access will be limited to say the best. I shall endeavour to get access though throughout the day.


Well unless it is to point the finger at Winston. Convenient that you would notice that little detail and then just happen to be away.

[Greyblades]

This is going to give me a headache.

[Subotan]

Well unless it is to point the finger at Winston. Convenient that you would notice that little detail and then just happen to be away.
It is very convenient for the mafia, but that's just the unfortunate tendency for IRL to interfere with the game. I can show you the train ticket for my journey tomorrow if you wish.

[ByzantineKnight]

This is going to give me a headache.

My subscription said you posted: "That or soeone is framing him... You were abit quick to point that out, eh subotan?"

What happened to that? Or did you just notice that I had already mentioned it and instead you decided to go for a more neutral complaint.

Were you waiting for someone to mention Winston and then get on their case? Bad Grayblades. What are you playing at?



It is very convenient for the mafia, but that's just the unfortunate tendency for IRL to interfere with the game. I can show you the train ticket for my journey tomorrow if you wish.

That would be wonderful. However I no longer suspect you are guilty. Either that or I cannot read you at all. Please change your vote to Grayblades.

[Greyblades]

My subscription said you posted: "That or soeone is framing him... You were abit quick to point that out, eh subotan?"That would be because I started writing it before I had refreshed the page and saw your post saying the exact same thing with different wording. Incidentally that is why I'm getting a headache.

[B-Wing]

...anybody notice who's still alive and not been participating in much conversation? Not exactly damning evidence, but it bugs the crap out of me that Nictel is still alive.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Alive (4)
Subotan
Nictel
Winston Hughes
Greyblades


Killed (18)
ATPG
DiY
Csargo
Yaseikhaan
GeneralHankerchief
Secura
Seon
Renata
Beefy187
Saregona
Skooma Addict
God Emperor
robbiecon
Kagemusha
Captain Blackadder
Scienter
johnhughthom
Methos


Lynched (8)
Jolt
dcmort93
Zack
Believer
classical hero
B Ray
Chaotix
Byzantine Knight

WoG (0)


1. Only the folks in blue should even have a say in who dies today.
2. I will ignore everything that the folks in red have to say, sorry.
3. The living will now be analyzed.


Greyblades


This is getting a bit mean, it seems like pizza guy is allways one of the first to go.

Scummy

Reason: Nervous twitch after just killing someone.


:inquisitive:... I hadn't thought of that, I'll have to remember that one.

Any chance of a tally?
Vote: Jolt

Scummy

Reason: Has been part of lynch bandwagons but not targeted by scum. Therefore, they're either not worried about his bandwagons in a game with two basically defenseless scums, or he's one of them.

Greyblades is a good murder because he's been voting and he hasn't been a main suspect. Why is he still alive?


I dont realy like accusations that claim someone is scum because they are defensive, it realy rubs me the wrong way. I'm not certain DCmort's innocent but you come off as more scummy than him right...



Scummy

Reason: "principled" stance from the usually quiet Greyblades. I smell a whiff of contrived reasoning.



vote: nictel



Scummy

Reason: Look how early this vote was. Notice how both Greyblades and Nictel are still alive.

This tell me the following: Greyblades has an opinion on Nictel, and that opinion is that Nictel is easy lynchbait, and therefore, a good vote, but not a good murder.

And he's not a good enough vote to follow up on, either.




Maybe Chaotix is too busy hosting his own game?



Scummy

Reason: Giving excuses for yourself is bad enough; excusing others.... :inquisitive:


Hrm, he has been giving me a wierd feeling, but not enough to get me to vote him.
Vote:Kagemusha
Well we voted kagemusha to get him to be more active and here he is, so; Unvote



Scummy

Reason: Kagemusha is in the blue list, thus is proven innocent.

Reason: Unvoting based on seemingly contrived reasons. This doesn't feel like typical Greyblades behavior.



What do we do if Andres does not reveal mafia upon death?



Scummy

Reason: Innocent (and fake) sounding question.



Sorry mate, I'd vote zack but I'm afraid I'd get a tie and kill both of you.



SCUMMY

Reason: Sounds RIDICULOUSLY FAKE.



...Well crud, now I feel stupid.




SCUMMY

Reason: Sounds RIDICULOUSLY FAKE.



I'm lazy, deal with it 'cause I cant be bothered to.


...dude the round's over.


Good lord this is getting confusing.


Er, forgive my ignorance, but what is the CFC?




SCUMMY

Reason: Sounds RIDICULOUSLY FAKE. Greyblades was probably in on the whole CFC OT headgame where the blame would go to people we would suspect of being a CFC OT person.

Greyblades does not go there. He seems to be INTENTIONALLY REMINDING US OF THAT here.

FLINCH FLINCH FLINCH




Vote: diamondeye



Who?



Sorry I missed the round I was woken up early and attened a reunion, after getting back I went back to sleep and, well, I didnt wake up untill an hour ago. Now I've got a headache...


Scummy

Reason: Excuses


Vote: B-ray


It might not even end if he is scum, theres a good chance there might still be another scum out there.



I'm not sure about winston, would a mafia realy be that easily provoked into that sort of comment?



Scummy

Reason: PERFECT INFORMATION SYNDROME

He acts like he's the logical one, reasoning things out. He's distancing himself from the Chaos he's created while also looking like the guy you want to have around because he's the only one making sense.

I'm not sure about Winston. Rule: Don't defend anyone you don't know is innocent.



...Seeing as I've made that sort of defense myself as a townie I'm more inclined to believe he's innocent, not much mind you but...
Vote: Byzantian Knight.

VERY SCUMMY

Same strategy as above post. He's pretending to be all calm and rational and level headed, distancing himself from the chaos while subtly providing the right answers, so that people will be less inclined to vote for the voice of reason.




Opinion: Greyblades is guilty with a side of french fries.

[ByzantineKnight]

Opinion: Greyblades is guilty with a side of french fries.

I came to the same conclusion and I'm in red does that count?

[Subotan]

That's pretty compelling. When you also combine the fact that I, WH and Nictel have all been on the brink of a lynch for an extended period of time, Greyblades does stick out as the only one of us four who has never really come under pressure. This is pretty heavy WIFOM territory though, so I'd like to hear some explanations from WH and Nictel as to why they're not scum, as well as hearing a retort from Greyblades himself of course.

As I would at this moment in time prefer for Greyblades to be lynched, in the even that I don't make it back to my lappy before sundown

[ByzantineKnight]

Vote:Greyblades

Unvote Scum!

[Subotan]

Whoops, my bad. Subotan can't mafia.

Unvote:WH;Vote:Greybaldes

[Askthepizzaguy]

Unvote:WH;Vote:Greybaldes

I'm not only the hair club president.....

[ByzantineKnight]

Whoops, my bad. Subotan can't mafia.

Unvote:WH;Vote:Greybaldes

*Greyblades

[Subotan]

I'm wondering what the lesser of the two evils of leaving it or editing it is.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I came to the same conclusion and I'm in red does that count?

I have been ignoring the folks who been dead-ified by the town, as one of them is guilty unless Andres is having fun with us.

Assuming this game still continues, I can't trust the red pile. Though obviously I agree with my conclusion, even if it's your conclusion first. :beam:

[ByzantineKnight]

I'm wondering what the lesser of the two evils of leaving it or editing it is.

Starting over from the beginning.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Starting over from the beginning.

I will suggest that I do not think you're guilty, Byz. The only possible partner you'd have is Nictel due to the votes last phase, and I don't think it's Nictel.

I do not think we were that lucky to have capped a scum based on a tie, which could only exist while you're guilty IF Nictel is also guilty. I don't think so.

[ByzantineKnight]

I will suggest that I do not think you're guilty, Byz. The only possible partner you'd have is Nictel due to the votes last phase, and I don't think it's Nictel.

I do not think we were that lucky to have capped a scum based on a tie, which could only exist while you're guilty IF Nictel is also guilty. I don't think so.

Why thank you :bow:

I came to the same conclusion but only after a thorough and intense soul-searching. Also a spirit quest, and let me tell you; those hookah smoking caterpillars are no joking matter.

Also I never got a role PM...

[Greyblades]

There's alot I cant argue against I'll just say I've been trying to change my play style as the "asleep for the first half and disjointed for the other" I usualy use(or at least what I think I use) doesnt help much.


Scummy

Reason: "principled" stance from the usually quiet Greyblades. I smell a whiff of contrived reasoning.
Uh actually I've been like that in at least one other game, I was a townie then, and have been particually annoyed when its been used against me in several others.




SCUMMY

Reason: Sounds RIDICULOUSLY FAKE. Greyblades was probably in on the whole CFC OT headgame where the blame would go to people we would suspect of being a CFC OT person.

Greyblades does not go there. He seems to be INTENTIONALLY REMINDING US OF THAT here.

FLINCH FLINCH FLINCH
I didn't actually know what the CFC was and wanted to know what the heck you guys were talking about.


Scummy

Reason: Giving excuses for yourself is bad enough; excusing others....
...Is good?

[Askthepizzaguy]

My opinion on Winston Hughes is that if I pressured him and accused him enough, it would provoke the mafia into a predictable strategy.

Winston is one of those players who should have been dead by now. I figured if I pressured him, it would either possibly get him lynched if he were a scumbag, or play into the whole CFC offtopic mafia gambit they played on me, where they quoted me while killing me.

If they believe I was never going to let Winston go because of that 'reasoning', they would have left him alive as lynchbait, thus reducing the number of suspects I'd have to analyze. Getting rid of John was a big help, I cannot analyze him at all. Winston is probably, along with Nictel, one of the two living people I might be able to trust presently.

Not sure on Subotan, but I suspect he's learned how to avoid my traps by now. I can't use PIS on him, or ESP analysis, I've already done that. Subotan would be able to fool me here. Greyblades was there, but I think he hasn't been playing specifically against such analysis, if I were to wager. I think he wrote me off as lost and confused when I went after Winston, and was largely irrelevant most of the game.

Of the remaining players, I gotta go with 'Blades as the only one I even find scummy at all at the moment.

Now, Greyblades, I challenge you to an analysis-off. Should I be wrong about you, go ahead and point your dying finger at the correct scumbag for 1,000,000 pizzapoints, a chocolate fountain, and unlimited supply of imported beer.

[Greyblades]

Now, Greyblades, I challenge you to an analysis-off. Should I be wrong about you, go ahead and point your dying finger at the correct scumbag for 1,000,000 pizzapoints, a chocolate fountain, and unlimited supply of imported beer.
Oh how nice, we still lose though.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Uh actually I've been like that in at least one other game, I was a townie then, and have been particually annoyed when its been used against me in several others.

Which game? Council of Villains- A State of Corruption?

Were you double-checking to make sure you'd have an alibi when I called you on this?

:mellow:


Oh how nice, we still lose though.

You certainly do. So, tell me 'Blades.... who is/was your partner? You might as well end the charade if he still lives.

[Greyblades]

Were you double-checking to make sure you'd have an alibi when I called you on this?I was considering getting a quote to prove the point but I stopped; I didn't want to trawl through 40 + pages for a quote that still makes me cringe at how stupid I was.

You certainly do. So, tell me 'Blades.... who is/was your partner? You might as well end the charade if he still lives.
You do realise that if both mafia still lived the game would have ended already dont you?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I was considering getting a quote to prove the point but I stopped; I didn't want to trawl through 40 + pages for a quote that still makes me cringe at how stupid I was.

All I'm saying is that you're now doing what Subotan did in the Sigurd-hosted Star Wars.... you're not just responding to my posts with the truth, you're working off-thread on your defense.

He typed up his response in a word processor and the formatting copied over, unfortunately for him. You, went digging through games to see if you could defend yourself.

That's not very townie of you. If I'm wrong you should be able to stand there and (blank)-slap me back to reality, without any backup but your honest perspective.

[Greyblades]

Its not very mafia of me either, though I suppose I havent played enough mafia to have a "mafia me".
Honestly I dont know why I'm still alive, though I suspect it is because I'm not seen as a good enough player to kill when I could be scapegoated.

[ByzantineKnight]

You certainly do. So, tell me 'Blades.... who is/was your partner? You might as well end the charade if he still lives.

*coughChaotixcough*



Its not very mafia of me either, though I suppose I havent played enough mafia to have a "mafia me".
Honestly I dont know why I'm still alive, though I suspect it is because I'm not seen as a good enough player to kill when I could be scapegoated.

Grasping at straws man.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Its not very mafia of me either, though I suppose I havent played enough mafia to have a "mafia me".

I would suggest that it is mafia of you. You had to be prepared for the possibility I'd go on the attack today, and you must have had some plan in mind, even if you had to come up with it last minute.

How do you deflect my accusation? Dig up behavior where you did it as townie. Pick and choose which parts of the case you can directly refute because you have done a certain action as townie before.

That's not really the point, though. The point is, will the behavior happen more often from a scum than standard, and, do the behaviors all added together paint a picture of a plausible strategy on your part?

Yes, they do. A rather good one too. The fact I haven't accused you until now tells you all you need to know about that. You've avoided being a major suspect all game. If your partner is still alive, you've won.

You kicked our butts. Don't even deny it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Honestly I dont know why I'm still alive, though I suspect it is because I'm not seen as a good enough player to kill when I could be scapegoated.

False modesty. You played an excellent game. :bow: Hats off to you, sir.

[Greyblades]

Yes, they do. A rather good one too. The fact I haven't accused you until now tells you all you need to know about that. You've avoided being a major suspect all game. If your partner is still alive, you've won.
I'm pretty sure we've already gone over this.



You do realise that if both mafia still lived the game would have ended already dont you?

[ByzantineKnight]

False modesty. You played an excellent game. :bow: Hats off to you, sir.

This! Until the last day you would have been the last one I would have suspected.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm pretty sure we've already gone over this.

Andres is exactly the kind of host to mess with his players: The awesome kind.

[Greyblades]

Well unless he is particually awesome the town's dead in 20 hours.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well unless he is particually awesome the town's dead in 20 hours.

Even assuming I'm wrong, mister Blades, which I've been enough times....

You could at least respond to my challenge. Who among the other three is guilty? You say you wanted to change your strategy and be more.... something. So, point a finger and be correct, and tell me why you are.

All I want to know about is the why. That way, win or lose, if you're right, I can see why you kick my butt at analysis and also, maybe I can learn from you. This your chance to show the world your townie skillz. Use the force, Greyblades.

[Greyblades]

All I want to know about is the why. That way, win or lose, if you're right, I can see why you kick my butt at analysis and also, maybe I can learn from you. This your chance to show the world your townie skillz. Use the force, Greyblades.
But thats the thing, I dont kick your butt at analysis, you know what I see in the current lineup?

Winston is not paying attention enough to be mafia; he's making too many mistakes for someone invested in this game.
Nictel is just not paying attention, he reminds me of a student attempting to answer a question that was asked while he was dosing off.
Subotan, well, anything I can pin on him can be pinned on me and then some.

And yet I'm the only one I know is definitely not mafia. With the dead rising from the grave to point a finger at me and the fact that this is the make or break vote, my confidence is shot.
The only guys who can win the game for town are a chronic depressive with self esteme issues, someone who isnt paying attention, an absentee and Subotan? Thank god this is only a game.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You'd be surprised who else has self-esteem issues, Greyblades. I've been clinically diagnosed as manic depressive and bipolar which I keep under control by keeping as low a stress level as possible and catching as much sleep as I can. It helps keep me mellow IRL.

I also haven't had much of an opinion of myself most of my life, and still lack the courage to ask women out that I find attractive, unless I have the internets to hide behind, or a note taped to their car. That's mister loudmouth pizzaguy.

Don't worry about your self esteem. Like I said, you'd be surprised how many others struggle with the same issues. What I do is, I enjoy the fact that this is a game, none/few of you know me IRL, and I can be who I would be if I weren't such a depressed shy person. Let the inner you flow.

So you're saying it's Subotan, based on not much analysis. I feel you can do better, if you're townie. I believe in you, if that helps.

I also think you're good enough to be guilty and have stomped the town flat, incidentally. I think that's more likely than you being innocent. But, if you're innocent, you have an edge over me at the moment. So, I'm asking you to give it your best shot.

We're gonna lose anyway, right? Imagine you pick the right guy. It's not really about the winning, it's about playing your best and having fun. Why not do what I do and accuse someone like you knew they were guilty? It's really, really fun. And you never know what might happen.

[Greyblades]

I know you have depression, you told me 2 years ago I believe, and yes I know I'm not alone in this (even through I constantly have to fight the urge to ask the question "why me?") thats not realy the point though. (it was until half way through before it became a joke about subotan). Lets see, I dont see winston as being mafia , he's acting too, well, stupid to be that (no offense). All I have on subotan can be placed on me as easily, though following the leader much? Nictel's rather too quiet, although he could be hiding behind the scenes and waiting for us to lynch someone else so he can win without saying a word.

I'll have to go with Vote:nictel

[Askthepizzaguy]

Fair enough, and a strategy I do believe Nicky would try. You gave your reasons, and that's all I can expect. Now, let's see what Nictel, Winston, and Subotan have to say.

Also, I'd like to remind the townies that you'll have to place your votes in a manner that avoids the possibility of ties.

Suppose Nictel and Greyblades get 2 votes apiece. This leaves the game up to a coin toss, or allows the scum to switch and force a wrong lynch. Don't place the votes in a 1-1-1-0 fashion or in a 1-2-0-0 fashion, as it's easy to force ties or force wrong lynches.

Bottom line, all 3 townies need to vote together, or one needs to abstain and wait for the deadline.

[Chaotix]

Not good...

Subotan's gotta be lynched, and he's not here to defend himself. Vanilla mafia, Subotan suspected, and he's not around. This reminds me of something very familiar...

Mafia IX (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?126877-Mafia-IX-Triumph-of-the-Mafia-Concluded&p=2464609&viewfull=1#post2464609)

But this time, Subotan may not post from his phone to let you know he's guilty.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Not good...

Subotan's gotta be lynched, and he's not here to defend himself. Vanilla mafia, Subotan suspected, and he's not around. This reminds me of something very familiar...

Mafia IX (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?126877-Mafia-IX-Triumph-of-the-Mafia-Concluded&p=2464609&viewfull=1#post2464609)

But this time, Subotan may not post from his phone to let you know he's guilty.

But guilty Chaotix is willing to let you know he's innocent.

[Methos]

After my obvious town-ess from yesterdays discussion, killing me was the obvious choice. Grrr.

[Askthepizzaguy]

After my obvious town-ess from yesterdays discussion, killing me was the obvious choice. Grrr.

Pick final suspect!!!!!!! Don't leave it up to poor pizza, I have a less than .500 batting average, in spite of whatever rep I have.

[Subotan]

Not sure on Subotan, but I suspect he's learned how to avoid my traps by now. I can't use PIS on him, or ESP analysis, I've already done that. Subotan would be able to fool me here.
Aww. I'll take that as a compliment.

Subotan, well, anything I can pin on him can be pinned on me and then some.

The only guys who can win the game for town are a chronic depressive with self esteme issues, someone who isnt paying attention, an absentee and Subotan? Thank god this is only a game.
I'm taking this as a compliment as well. I'm not fussy.


Not good...

Subotan's gotta be lynched, and he's not here to defend himself. Vanilla mafia, Subotan suspected, and he's not around. This reminds me of something very familiar...

Mafia IX (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?126877-Mafia-IX-Triumph-of-the-Mafia-Concluded&p=2464609&viewfull=1#post2464609)

But this time, Subotan may not post from his phone to let you know he's guilty.
Please, being the original case study for Subotan Syndrome, I think I can avoid it this time round. Also, way to ignore the accusations against Greyblades.

Since this is likely the last time I shall be in contact with HQ before I move out of range and lose radio contact, I strongly advice that someone trawl through the thread looking for examples of Greyblades/Chaotix communication - a dearth of anything meaningful is a bad sign for Greyblades.

[DELETE_THIS]

Nictel is just not paying attention, he reminds me of a student attempting to answer a question that was asked while he was dosing off.



I'll have to go with Vote:nictel

Yeah makes sense. Vote: Greyblades

What can I say? I am innocent.

These no-role mafia games really don't spark my interest. It's just analyzing peoples words. On the internet. From now on I'll only play games with roles; with scanners and such. I find those more enjoyable and as such easier to participate in.

[Kagemusha]

I have to bet it is Greyblades. I might be wrong, but thats my bet.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well at least if we fail, we fail together.

:tongue2:

I'm still blaming Lord Winter for all of this. Somehow, it is still his fault.

[Death is yonder]

I actually had stuff about oddities in Subo's behavior, but examining some stuff about Chaotix compelled me to scrap it and focus just on why I think Greyblades should still be lynched.

I will note that Chaotix's behavior at present and in general is odd, and the fact that he was lynched, and also his odd biased pursuit of Subotan doesn't exactly cast Greyblades in a good light, especially since the lack of objectivity is very clearly demonstrated in his latest series of posts.

And also, this post shortly after Chaotix was lynched is astoundingly relevant in the present situation.


And now the town is in a fix...

Well, keep an eye on Subotan, Winston, and Nictel.

Actually, better watch out for johnhughthom, Byzantine Knight, and Greyblades, too.

And don't forget about Scienter, Methos, and Captain Blackadder. You never know.

Greyblades seems to have been added as an afterthought like "hmm if I don't put my scum partner in then it'll seem suspicious".

Ultimately the two candidates I would even be considering for the title of "last scum remaining" is either Subo or Greyblades. Originally I wanted to take a look at Subo also, but I felt that Chaotix's single minded pursuit of Subotan seems as if he's protecting his scum buddy Greyblades. Likely, its an extension of the two of them trading votes throughout the whole game, but at this moment, it seems like just the manifestation of a realization that the town is not going to be convinced to vote for either Winston or Nictel.

I'd go for Greyblades, and generally concur with ATPG's analysis.

[Renata]

I just had a look at the case against Grayblades and I rather like it. The strongest part is stuff like this:


I dont realy like accusations that claim someone is scum because they are defensive, it realy rubs me the wrong way. I'm not certain DCmort's innocent but you come off as more scummy than him right...


Hrm, he has been giving me a wierd feeling, but not enough to get me to vote him.
Vote:Kagemusha


It might not even end if he is scum, theres a good chance there might still be another scum out there.


I'm not sure about winston, would a mafia realy be that easily provoked into that sort of comment?


...Seeing as I've made that sort of defense myself as a townie I'm more inclined to believe he's innocent, not much mind you but...
Vote: Byzantian Knight.

I see it a bit differently than Pizza does (defending people you don't know are innocent is part of the game; it's all part of trying to make good choices); however, Grayblades sure does do it in high proportion: compare his excuses for various people to his accusations, and it seems more effort goes into the excuses. Perfect Information Syndrome is exactly right; this looks like someone who is eager not to offend by pushign too hard against people he knows are townies. And even at that the defenses are not always pertinent (would a mafia be that easily provoked? well, yes. Kagemusha's vote was only pressure, so you have to unvote when he turns up? No, you don't; showing up is what people usually call a flinch (too defensive) around here, as useless as that accussation often is.) And as much as I dislike that accusation, what's the point being made? It's "that's a bad accusation, so I'm not sure X is scum". As opposed to "that's a bad accusation, so YOU might be scum".

The suspicion is missing.

Add multiple statements of confusion/excuses/harmless questions whose answers don't really seem to matter.

Add the excuse for Chaotix, who by this point had better be scum or I need to get my radar into the shop and give it a few whacks.

[Chaotix]

Bahahahahaha.

I better stop posting or I'm just going to throw you guys off even more.

You'll never find my scum partner. NEVER!

[ByzantineKnight]

Bahahahahaha.

I better stop posting or I'm just going to throw you guys off even more.

You'll never find my scum partner. NEVER!

You just admitted to being scum...

[Askthepizzaguy]

Bahahahahaha.

I better stop posting or I'm just going to throw you guys off even more.

You'll never find my scum partner. NEVER!

You broke my heart, Chaotix. You broke my heart.

You know what would be awesome? If it were you and Subotan as mafia all over again, the Mafia's comeback, as in... a repeat of Mafia IX. Same scumbags. One more chance to win.

I would lol.

Analysis says Greyblades, to me. But whatever. I'm not going to play head games with you and second guess myself.

[ByzantineKnight]

And please someone else vote Greyblades i'm pretty sure we only have one of the required 2 votes to kill him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

And please someone else vote Greyblades i'm pretty sure we only have one of the required 2 votes to kill him.

Greyblades: 2 (Subotan, Nictel)
Nictel: 1 (Greyblades)

Not Voting: Winston Huggy-bear

[Winston Hughes]

vote: Greyblades

[ByzantineKnight]

Greyblades: 2 (Subotan, Nictel)
Nictel: 1 (Greyblades)

Not Voting: Winston Huggy-bear


vote: Greyblades

And a chorus of angels began to sing!

[Askthepizzaguy]

vote: Greyblades

Third on the wagon, no reasoning given. Winston is obviously scum.

/thread



:clown:

[Renata]

If he is, can I claim completely undeserved credit for my awesome-sauce and entirely pointless argument against him yesterday?

If it's Subotan, all I can do is :bow: -- his pursuit of Chaotix came off as entirely genuine.

If it's Nictel ... well, he really should have been lynched a week ago on general principle, so I'd take an actually-deserved I told you so on that one.

[Winston Hughes]

unvote; vote: ATPG

[Greyblades]

Oy, and like that the game is lost all because of a reluctance to be redundant,

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote; vote: ATPG

unvote and vote Winston, everyone. Scum like to hide on my wagon.

You'll never take me alive, Winston.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oy, and like that the game is lost all because of a reluctance to be redundant,

Quick, vote for me and make it a tie. PLEASE!!!

[Winston Hughes]

doublevote: ATPG

[Askthepizzaguy]

doublevote: ATPG

You win this round. Unless....

Triple-dog vote: Huggy bear

[Winston Hughes]

unvote; vote: Nictel :grin:

[ByzantineKnight]

unvote; vote: Nictel :grin:

Bad joke. Take it back!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Do you really want to hurt me, Winston? Do you really want to make me cry....

[Winston Hughes]

Do you really want to hurt me, Winston? Do you really want to make me cry....

:yes:

[Askthepizzaguy]

:yes:

You are too much for me, Winston, you son of a biscuit. I wish I knew how to quit you.

[Winston Hughes]

You are too much for me, Winston, you son of a biscuit. I wish I knew how to quit you.

:girlslap: unvote; vote: Greyblades

[Renata]

That was awesome.

[DELETE_THIS]

:D Awesome!

[Andres]

Voting concluded. Stand by for execution.

[Andres]

Day 10

Voices in the wind could be heard whispering in a most frightening way.

"The Grey Blades killed us. It was Greyblades. We want blood. Sweet blood. Crushing bones. Screams of aggony. Hahahahaha! Blood. Give us a river of Greyblades' blood. An ocean of blood. We drink blood. We want blood. Flesh. Flesh and bones. Crushed. Meat. Oh blood, we want his blood. We want to see his brains coming out of his skull. His head rolling. Rivers, oceans, lakes of sweet, oh so sweet blood. Greyblades' blood. We want it."

This continued for almost an entire day. Greyblades kept yelling "NO! NO! NO! IT WASN'T ME! DON'T LISTEN TO THOSE EVIL VOICES! IGNORE THEM!"

The frightened townies however, not knowing what was happening, couldn't help themselves and did what the voices screaming for blood ordered them to do.

In the meanwhile, Chief of Police had been ordering his mercenary bodyguards to load all his belongings on several big trucks. While he was busy giving orders to load his precious stash of Duvel onto the latest truck, he noticed it was getting late already.

Quickly, he turned towards the townies.

"Ehm, I'm not in a hurry to leave really, but, eh, you know, the ticket was expensive and I have, things, yes things to take care for of and, hehehe, ehm, eh." Sweat rolled over his face while he was nervously looking around.

"Ok, who's the one biting the dust today?"

"We decided that the guilty one must be GreyBla..."

The blade of the katana swung, seperating GreyBlades' head from his body. Before the head hit the ground, Andres was already seated in the first truck.

"Good night," he could be heard yelling, "I'm sure you'll all be safe no..."

The rest was lost by the sounds of the starting engines. The trucks left the town at very high speed.

The three remaining survivors looked at each other, not feeling very comfortable.

Winston Hughes drew a gun, smiling at the other two,

but the smile quickly froze on his face as he noticed that Subotan was carrying an AK-47

and Nictel two Uzi's.


The three looked at each other.

"Calm and slow now," Subotan said.

Nictel nodded. "I agree. Let's go to sleep and see what happens."

Winston Hughes simply nodded.

The three remaining inhabitants of Gameroomville moved very slowly, going back to their houses...


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Tally

Greyblades: 3 (Subotan, Winston Hughes, Nictel) :skull:

Nictel: 1 (Greyblades)

Alive (3)
Subotan
Nictel
Winston Hughes

Killed (18)
ATPG
DiY
Csargo
Yaseikhaan
GeneralHankerchief
Secura
Seon
Renata
Beefy187
Saregona
Skooma Addict
God Emperor
robbiecon
Kagemusha
Captain Blackadder
Scienter
johnhughthom
Methos


Lynched (9)
Jolt
dcmort93
Zack
Believer
classical hero
B Ray
Chaotix
Byzantine Knight
Greyblades


WoG (0)


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