The Mafia's comeback [Concluded]

[Andres]

The Mafia's comeback

He looked up at the blue sky. It was a very nice day, early Spring. The sort of day on which his father used to take him out to go fishing. He remembered those days as about the happiest ones in his childhood. Not that he liked fishing. In fact, as a child, he found it a pretty boring sport. "Sport". Ha! Sitting down for a whole day and just waiting for a fish to bite. No, he loved those occasions, because his father used to tell him awesome stories.

There was this one story his father loved to tell him. And he loved hearing it again and again. It was about a boy named Richie.

Richie was a fat kid, living in his father's town Gameroomville. He was the son of a butcher, named Luciano. Luciano was an Italian immigrant, a hard working man, who paid his weekly contributions to the local mobster, Don Patino.

Don Patino had a son, Vincenzo. Vincenzo wasn’t exactly the brightest bulb, but he was his fathers’ son, so nobody dared to touch him. Vincenzo knew this and he enjoyed his status. He was a bully and Richie, the fat kid, often was his target. Every time Richie walked by Richie and his friend, they called him names. Sometimes they pushed him away and when Vincenzo was in a bad mood, Richie got punched and kicked.

They also did practical jokes with Richie. Just like his father was a hard working man, Richie was a good student who did his best at school. He loved reading and could often seen walking around with books, he bought with the money he earned helping his father in the butcher shop during the week-ends.

One day, Richie made the mistake of walking through Vincenzo’s street with his newly acquired books. Vincenzo and his friends forced Richie to stop. They punched him in the face and of course, Richie dropped his books. That day, Vincenzo took things a bit further than usual. Two of his friends forced Richie to watch while Vincenzo urinated on his books. But this wasn’t enough for Vincenzo, no. After that, he lit a cigarette and he threw the match on the books. They caught fire.

Richie yelled “Noooo!” and this was reason enough for Vincenzo to kick one of the burning books in Richie’s face. The child’s face got scarred for life.

Being the coward he was, deep in his heart, Vincenzo ran away, his friends with him.

A year later, Richie walked through Vincenzo’s street again. The Dons’ son grinned and his friends walked up to Richie, planning to give him the usual treatment. But Richie wasn’t there to be bullied again. He pulled a handgun and pointed it at Vincenzo.

Two days later, a 14 year old kid killed Don Patino.

From that day on, Gameroomville was no longer terrorised by mobsters. Richie's tradition was continued and this particular neighbourhood never got terrorised by the mafia again, until...

This was little Santino’s favourite story and he smiled while remembering it.

It were his last thoughts before the silenced gun finished him with a bullet between his eyes.

The mafioso looked down on the body and started shaking his head. “I liked you, I really did. But we can’t allow people standing up against us.”

He shrugged and stepped back in his car. His colleague nodded in approval and both men drove away quickly, leaving the body uncovered.


***

Day 1

Chief of police Andres read the report with a worried look on his face. The news that the mafia was in town would probably be a disaster for the regular deliveries of Belgian beer in this small town. Sure, he had enough booze in his cellar to survive a few World Wars, but still, it was worrisome.

He never understood why they made him chief of police of this small town, some told him it was because he was good at swinging sharp objects around and in making things swing from a rope.

He picked up the manual "How to be a completely incapable chief of police and doing minimal damage" and particularly liked the chapter where it was explained how to let the townies figure it out themselves and doing nothing more than what he was good at: lynching people and drinking beer.

He started to prepare his opening speech, but not after opening his third bottle of Duvel. After all, breakfast was the most important meal of the day.


***

Welcome to "The Mafia's Comeback", a large VANILLA mafia game:

The set-up is pretty simple:

- 30 players MAX;
- 2 mafiosi who get 2 kills each night;
- no detective or other pro town role;
- roles are not revealed upon lynching;
- mafia needs to provide the host at least a schematic kill write-up;
- 24 hours night and day phases;
- dead players are allowed to talk in the thread;

For those not familiar with mafia gaming, I'll explain the basic rules. In this game, this are the only rules you need to know, which makes this perfect as an introduction for new players:

Basic mafia rules



There are two sides in this game: the townies and the mafia.

The townies are the innocent people and they have to lynch the mafiosi during the day. The mafiosi have to kill a set number of townies each night (in this game, the mafia has two kills each night, regardless of with how many they are. This means that if one mafioso is lynched, the mafia will still have the ability to kill two players each night). When all mafiosi are lynched, the town wins. When all townies are dead, the mafia wins.

Each day or night phase will last approximately 24 hours. This may be extended or shortened due to real life circumstances of the host (that's me).

The townies have to decide during the day by voting who will get lynched. The person with the most votes, will be lynched.

Votes have to be made like this:

Vote : Andres

When you want to switch your vote, you have to do it like this:

Unvote : Andres ; Vote : Ser Clegane

Please remember to BOLD YOUR VOTES! UNBOLDED VOTES WILL NOT BE COUNTED! No exceptions will be made. Also, REMEMBER TO UNVOTE BEFORE SWITCHING YOUR VOTE; if you forget to unvote, your vote switch will be ignored.

Notes:

* You're allowed to vote "abstain"; voting "no lynch" will be counted as an abstain vote.
* When a tie is reached at the end of the day, the game host will randomly (as in "completely at random") lynch one of the players in the tie. In short: there will always be a lynch at the end of the day phase.
* regardless of your role, you are supposed to be active in the thread. Severe inactivity (no strict rule, but you can take not posting for 6 RL days in a row as a basic rule) will be dealt with by WoG ("Wrath of God") which basically means that you'll be killed by the host in a most humiliating way.
* If you can no longer play for whatever reason, please inform the host and he'll try to find a replacement. If no replacement can be found, you will be written out of play (honorable suicide).


Game is now open for sign-ups !


Signed up (30/30) - Full (but feel free to sign up as replacement player)
Subotan
johnhughthom
Renata
GeneralHankerchief
Captain Blackadder
Beefy187
Saregona
Zack
Csargo
ATPG
DiY
Jolt
B Ray
Yaseikhaan
Believer
classical hero
Byzantine Knight
Methos
dcmort93
Nictel
Scienter
Chaotix
Skooma Addict
robbiecon
Secura
Seon
Winston Hughes
Greyblades
God Emperor
Kagemusha

Replacement

TinCow
Diana Abnoba
Diamondeye

[Csargo]

>:(

[Askthepizzaguy]

Just a placeholder, will update later.

This will be a large VANILLA mafia game:

- 30 players MAX;
- 2 mafiosi who get 2 kills each night;
- no detective or other pro town role;
- roles are not revealed upon lynching;
- mafia needs to provide the host at least a schematic kill write-up;
- 24 hours night and day phases;

Will be hosted April 2011.

Yes, Vanilla. I also eat that.

I shall indicate my desire to join by posting this important message:


:bling:

[Diamondeye]

Just a placeholder, will update later.

This will be a large VANILLA mafia game:

- 30 players MAX;
- 2 mafiosi who get 2 kills each night;
- no detective or other pro town role;
- roles are not revealed upon lynching;
- mafia needs to provide the host at least a schematic kill write-up;
- 24 hours night and day phases;

Will be hosted December 11th.

Fixxed :stare:
No, seriously, it sounds intriguing. Odds are if I play, I'll be the mafia :tongue:

[God Emperor]

People still allowed to talk after death?

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

So long away? :skull:


I'm in though!!

[Beefy187]

:curtain:

[Andres]

People still allowed to talk after death?

:yes:

Maybe I should work on something to encourage participation.

Maybe something along the lines of "participate in every round after dead and you're allowed to vote in the final round" ?

[pevergreen]

I dunno.

I think they should be allowed to talk, but killing active players is/was a possible tactic, in the hope that they would cease activity/be less active. Not an honourable one, but even so.

[ULC]

Let the town have the option of, after the lynch, select one player who hasn't voted and/or has only made one post that day be lynched as well? Just a thought :3

[Yoyoma1910]

Great.

By April I should have some free time.

[Believer]

Inception is a horrible film.

[Diamondeye]

Inception is a horrible film.

Seriously? I liked it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I liked the part where the Mafias come back.


Andres, please update!

[Andres]

Just a little note to let you guys know I didn't forget.

Had some RL issues and of course, the recent tragic event, but I won't let you guys down.

I'll work on the opening write-up and hopefully this will go in sign-up phase next Saturday. Won't start before Tuesday though, because of Carnaval.

[Andres]

Game is now open for sign-ups!

:bow:

[Subotan]

Oooh pick me pick me

[johnhughthom]

In.

[Renata]

I'll play.

[GeneralHankerchief]

a large VANILLA mafia game

ohmyGodyespleasethankyouin

[Captain Blackadder]

In please

[TinCow]

:yes:

[Beefy187]

:curtain:

For the second time :D

[Who am i?]

Hello

I shall join.

[Zack]

In.


mafia needs to provide the host at least a schematic kill write-up
Hope I'm not mafia! :beam:

[Csargo]

I'll play.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I've signed up for more games than I can realistically chew on, especially since I have other extracurricular projects and my own game(s) coming up.

However, I will sign up. If this fills up and we still have people who want in, I'll drop and be a replacement. Andres' games are awesome.

In.

[Death is yonder]

I'll borrow ATPG's statement since I'm a bit tight on the schedule myself (excluding an upcoming game) but I'd love to sign up, yet if there's an overflow of interested participants please change me to become a replacement :bow:

In please :yes:

[Jolt]

In for the win.

[B-Wing]

I'd like to be a part of this.
Count me in!

[seireikhaan]

:charge:

It's on like Donkey Kong.

[classical_hero]

I am in. I bet that I will be mafia. I have been mafia about 50% of the time I have played games here.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Wait.... Chief of Police Andres?

We have a mad criminal in charge of finding criminals! Help, help! Police brutality!

[TinCow]

Please change me over to a replacement player. My life has gotten a lot more busy lately, and I don't think I'll have a lot of time to devote to mafia over the next month. I will play as a starting player if the slots do not fill up without me, but if they are filled it would be better if a more active player to my spot.

[ByzantineKnight]

In please

[Methos]

In.

[dcmort93]

In for sure sounds promising

[DELETE_THIS]

24 hour night and days? That's going to be interesting.

[Scienter]

In.

[Chaotix]

In!

[Skooma Addict]

PM Invitation. How can I resist?

[robbiecon]

Well, I could have signed up sooner, but the invite did the trick.

[Secura]

Signing up. :bow:

[Seon]

I Would rather have that tasty mint flavored ice cream, but I can go with vanilla.

[Winston Hughes]

In.

[Greyblades]

In.

[God Emperor]

a vanilla game.. and one missing signup(assuming the signup list is correct)..... .. ... .. Can't resist the lure.
In :)

[Andres]

And that's number 30 :cheerleader:

Three people have stated they wouldn't mind being replacement players, so I'm going to leave sign-ups open for a little bit longer; I hope to be able to start this game tonight or tomorrow night at the latest (that's 9.00 pm my time; which is +/- within 9 hours from the time stamp of this post).

[Diana Abnoba]

Sorry Andres, just got your invite, looks like I'm too late, but you can put me down for a replacement player if you need another. Thanks. And thanks for the invite as well. :bow:

[Andres]

The Mafia's comeback


***

Day 1

Chief of police Andres read the report with a worried look on his face. The news that the mafia was in town would probably be a disaster for the regular deliveries of Belgian beer in this small town. Sure, he had enough booze in his cellar to survive a few World Wars, but still, it was worrisome.

He never understood why they made him chief of police of this small town, some told him it was because he was good at swinging sharp objects around and in making things swing from a rope.

He picked up the manual "How to be a completely incapable chief of police and doing minimal damage" and particularly liked the chapter where it was explained how to let the townies figure it out themselves and doing nothing more than what he was good at: lynching people and drinking beer.

He started to prepare his opening speech, but not after opening his third bottle of Duvel. After all, breakfast was the most important meal of the day.

Maybe he should drink a fourth Duvel. And a fwifth. Ooooh, is that whiskie? Whisky? Stuff. Drink. Ehm, speech? Speechzzzzzzzzzzz...."

And then it was night.


***


Alive (30)
Subotan
johnhughthom
Renata
GeneralHankerchief
Captain Blackadder
Beefy187
Saregona
Zack
Csargo
ATPG
DiY
Jolt
B Ray
Yaseikhaan
Believer
classical hero
Byzantine Knight
Methos
dcmort93
Nictel
Scienter
Chaotix
Skooma Addict
robbiecon
Secura
Seon
Winston Hughes
Greyblades
God Emperor
Kagemusha

Killed (0)

Lynched (0)

WoG (0)


***

Notes

And the game has now officially started :cheerleader:

I've sent a pm to all players to let them know the game started.

It's now night; mafia have 23 hours to send in their orders. PM's please.

[Seon]

Would we be eaten by a grue if we go ou at night?

[Subotan]

Let Justice be done! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThKNt-GY1ww)

[DELETE_THIS]

Party!

[Believer]

Oh, my second game on the Org!

This shall be fun.

[Zack]

Oh, my second game on the Org!

This shall be fun.
Man, you really love playing the "I'm a n00b" card.

[Believer]

Man, you really love playing the "I'm a n00b" card.

Or perhaps I am happy about the occasion. Such as if one were to say "Oh, my 18th birthday!" is not an exclamation of how young a person is, rather happiness.
Also, it provides an easy way to start conversation if one were to befriend me.

Judge what someone says, not what you say someone says.

[Scienter]

Vote:Andres.

Oh, wait. That's the other mafia game. :tongue2:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Arrest: Yaseikhaan
Arrest: Captain Blackadder

Gentlemen, I believe I've solved the case.

[Seon]

I WON'T LET YOU!

Kill: ATPG

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yes, don't let them kill ATPG.

[God Emperor]

Oh, my second game on the Org!

This shall be fun.

Time to apply all you learned from the first one :)

also Scienter is most likely scum

[Scienter]

Time to apply all you learned from the first one :)

also Scienter is most likely scum

Please, I'm not competent enough to be scum. :inquisitive:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Please, I'm not competent enough to be scum. :inquisitive:


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SCUMDAR ALERT. SCUMDAR ALERT.

You may all panic now.

[B-Wing]

I second Seon.

Assassinate: Askthepizzaguy

[Askthepizzaguy]

HAHAHA!!! You can't kill me, for I am wearing a bulletproof vest! It provides me perfect protection for everything except getting shot in the face!

Wait.... what happens if they shoot me in the face? :embarassed:

[Believer]

If it's one thing I've learned it's that I can't survive an entire game without ATPG.

Power of heart - PROTECT: Askthepizzaguy

[Beefy187]

Beefsteak and Pizza for everyone!

Hug and blow up together: ATPG

[God Emperor]

HAHAHA!!! You can't kill me, for I am wearing a bulletproof vest! It provides me perfect protection for everything except getting shot in the face!

Wait.... what happens if they shoot me in the face? :embarassed:

Really? I had no idea that wearing a bulletproof vest would provide perfect protection to your feet:laugh4:
You always seem to amaze me :p

[Askthepizzaguy]

It's a long vest, alright? It's more like a bulletproof muumuu.

[God Emperor]

no... ... .. no haha.. ..:laugh4:

[Please host your own images (PM me if you need help on this) - GH]

[seireikhaan]

Hug: Pizzaguy :sweetheart:

[Captain Blackadder]

Arrest: Yaseikhaan
Arrest: Captain Blackadder

Gentlemen, I believe I've solved the case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu7vySQbgXI&feature=related

[dcmort93]

It's never that simple Pizza, except for Gangland Wars, no offense classical, wasn't your fault

[Askthepizzaguy]

It's never that simple Pizza, except for Gangland Wars, no offense classical, wasn't your fault

Well, it's happened to me before. Thought I'd try my hand at doing it again.

[Diamondeye]

If I haven't already said so (and the invitiation in my inbox, thanks a bunch! says I haven't), I'd love to join the game, but since it's already started, I'm fine with being a replacement player. Especially if you won't need me before the 24th where I return from New York.

:bow:

[classical_hero]

It's never that simple Pizza, except for Gangland Wars, no offense classical, wasn't your fault
Well that game was certainly very different type of mafia that I think has been tried, but mistakes were made, not just by that certain someone. Anyway, I don't like the look of that vote:classical_hero guy. He just looks suspicious to me.

[Winston Hughes]

Am I dead yet?

[johnhughthom]

That reminds me, Vote: Winston Hughes.

[Winston Hughes]

You needed reminding? :cry:

[Renata]

Am I dead yet?

Not yet, there's still a few hours left in Night Zero.

[Andres]

Night 1

He was hungry. But he was too afraid to leave his home. He had heard rumours about the mafia having infiltrated the neighbourhood. It was dangerous outside and he could get killed. But he was hungry.

Looking around his appartment, he saw this piece of paper on a table. He looked at it. Aha! The phone number of Mizza Mut! Perfect!

He picked up his phone, dialed the number and ordered a large pepperoni pizza.

Only 20 minutes later, the doorbell rang. A man, sweating, he clearly had done his best to get the delivery to Death is yonders’ place fast, was standing in the door.

“Here you go, sir, a pepperoni pizza. And the bill of course.”

Death is yonder looked at it.

“What? 2.50 $ for the delivery? Thief! Since when is a pizza driver charging the customer? I tip when I’m satisfied, it’s not done to demand a tip like this!”

The pizzaguy looked pretty desperate and murmured “not another one.”

“Sir, it’s the official…”

“Thief!”

“It’s technically not a tip, it’s for Mizza Mut. I don’t get nothing…”

“Lies! Take your money and go away! You’re no better than a mafioso extorting honest people.”

After putting seven locks on his door, DiY finally sat down to eat his expensive pizza.

Enjoying the meal, he didn’t notice the dark shadow behind him.

“You should’ve tipped the man, cheapskate.”

“Huh?” was the last word DiY ever spoke before the man strangled him to death with a garotte.


***

Askthepizzaguy was angry. No, not angry, furious. What a :daisy: his last customer was. “I hope you suffocate in your pizza, you :daisy:!”

Walking back to his car, he noticed a man, wearing a fedora.

“Hello, good sir, I see you work for Mizza Mut.”

“Yeah, I’m a slave of those crooks.”

“You need to drive your own car and pay for your fuel?”

“Yeah, that’s what they make me do. You almost need to pay to be allowed to work for them.”

“I see,” the man wearing the fedora said,nodding.

“Anyway, I need to go, still 4 deliveries to make.”

“But, I have a present for you,” the man with the fedora said.

“A present?”

“FREE GASOLINE!” the mafioso yelled and he poured a bucket of gasoline over Askthepizzaguy.

“Are you nuts?” Pizza yelled.

“NEED A LIGHT???” the man said, throwing a burning match to Askthepizzaguy.

While the flames consumed the screaming ATPG, the man ran away, laughing hysterically.



***

Day 2

Chief of Police Andres took a seat on the balcony from which he could talk to the citizens of Gameroomville.

"Dear citizens of Gameroomville. We have found the dead body of DiY, who was killed while eating in his own house. He was eating a Pepperoni pizza from Mizza Mut. We're not sure if that's what killed him, but we advice you not to order anymore Mizza Mut pizza's until the mafiosi are caught. Not that you'll be able to order pizza at Mizza Mut, since their only driver, Mister Askthepizzaguy, has been consumed by fire. We're not sure if it was caused by eating one of his own pizza's. Anyway, it is clear that mafia have infiltrated Mizza Mut. We need to stop this threat here and now! When I'm drunk, I order pizza. Now, I can no longer order pizza. Which means I have to drink even more than I use to, so that I get so drunk that I'm not even hungry anymore. Which is great, of course. All hail the Mafia!!!

Ehm, I mean, we need to find that scum. Find out among each other who the mafia is. I'll try to stay sober until the end of the day and will lynch the evil mafioso you will certainly catch. Now, if you'll excuse me, my beer is getting warm."

That said, the Chief of Police disappeared.



***

Alive (28)
Subotan
johnhughthom
Renata
GeneralHankerchief
Captain Blackadder
Beefy187
Saregona
Zack
Csargo
Jolt
B Ray
Yaseikhaan
Believer
classical hero
Byzantine Knight
Methos
dcmort93
Nictel
Scienter
Chaotix
Skooma Addict
robbiecon
Secura
Seon
Winston Hughes
Greyblades
God Emperor
Kagemusha

Killed (2)
ATPG
DiY

Lynched (0)

WoG (0)


***

It's now day. You can vote. Day will last for +/- 24 hours.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote: Believer

Lotta people I haven't played with before. You're one of 'em. ~:wave:

[DELETE_THIS]

I second Seon.

Assassinate: Askthepizzaguy

Never been that easy: Vote: B_Ray

[dcmort93]

I WON'T LET YOU!

Kill: ATPG
I think I'll Vote Seon for being the first so suggest such action

[GeneralHankerchief]

Unvote: Believer
Vote: dcmort93

Hiding behind pre-game antics that turned into WIFOM is too convenient. It's obvious that those that jokingly went after Pizza in the pregame would be targets as soon as it came out he died.

[God Emperor]

Well ATPG.. You are already a confirmed innocent, so will you stick around? (same goes for DiY)

Vote: Subotan

[dcmort93]

Unvote: Believer
Vote: dcmort93

Hiding behind pre-game antics that turned into WIFOM is too convenient. It's obvious that those that jokingly went after Pizza in the pregame would be targets as soon as it came out he died.
Two things:
1) I realize this and I had planned to change my vote later on.
2) By your logic Nictel is also scum, why not vote him.

Personally I think that the scum would wait for something like what I did with my vote and pounce on that person as they would then gain suspicion for going after the obvious choices.
For now I Unvote BUT FOS GeneralHankerchief

[Askthepizzaguy]

:laugh4: I know you guys got this. What do you really need me for?

You guys are CHAMPIONS. Now that you won't be wasting time lynching me, it's all over for the mafia.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Why FOS me? Why not just vote me? After all, if you're planning to change your vote later on anyway, what will it matter in the long run?

[DELETE_THIS]

Unvote: Believer
Vote: dcmort93

Hiding behind pre-game antics that turned into WIFOM is too convenient. It's obvious that those that jokingly went after Pizza in the pregame would be targets as soon as it came out he died.

But maybe the mafia knew this and so they said this so when we vote for them they knew that you knew that they knew that you knew that you were going to say this!


Two things:
1) I realize this and I had planned to change my vote later on.
2) By your logic Nictel is also scum, why not vote him.

Personally I think that the scum would wait for something like what I did with my vote and pounce on that person as they would then gain suspicion for going after the obvious choices.
For now I Unvote BUT FOS GeneralHankerchief

Bit strong reaction or not? Hmm YOU MAFIA?!

[ByzantineKnight]

Vote: Jolt

Random.org ^_^

[GeneralHankerchief]

But maybe the mafia knew this and so they said this so when we vote for them they knew that you knew that they knew that you knew that you were going to say this!

I doubt the mafia are that smart.

[dcmort93]

But maybe the mafia knew this and so they said this so when we vote for them they knew that you knew that they knew that you knew that you were going to say this!
Thats a bit along the lines of what I was going at.

Why FOS me? Why not just vote me? After all, if you're planning to change your vote later on anyway, what will it matter in the long run?Because I'm not about to OMGUS for the sake of OMGUS-ing

[GeneralHankerchief]

But you clearly think I'm a suspect, hence you FOSing me. Therefore, why won't you take that to its logical conclusion and place a vote on me? After all, by your reasoning, there's not a better suspect at this point in the game. Which means that you either a) are scared of going out on a limb and outright voting me this early in the game, or b) don't actually believe that I'm suspicious.

Either way, that makes you scum.

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Winston Hughes

[dcmort93]

Well now for something completely different random.org says Vote Byzantine Knight

[Askthepizzaguy]

If it's any consolation, I'd be voting for you right now GH. :bounce:

[GeneralHankerchief]

If it's any consolation, I'd be voting for you right now GH. :bounce:

That's why I had you killed off last night, bud. :beam: ~:pat:

[Askthepizzaguy]

That's why I had you killed off last night, bud. :beam: ~:pat:

Hugs and kisses, my love.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Maybe later. I have a town to mislead right now.

[ByzantineKnight]

Well now for something completely different random.org says Vote Byzantine Knight

NOOOOO! Random.org loves me! How could it do this to me?? Did you tell it that my life hangs in the balance!?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Maybe later. I have a town to mislead right now.

*reaches up from the grave with burnt, stinking flesh, gripping GeneralHanky by the neck.*


I INSIST, DARLING. :evil:

[GeneralHankerchief]

*reaches up from the grave with burnt, stinking flesh, gripping GeneralHanky by the neck.*

I told you not to call me that name in front of everybody! :viking:

[johnhughthom]

Shall the rest of us go find another game?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Yeah, I guess a Gameroom mod should probably stop spamming.

Anyway, everybody: lynch dcmort.

[DELETE_THIS]

Maybe later. I have a town to mislead right now.
Ah it is going to be one of these games. You know what. These kind of games only harm the town: Unvote; Vote GeneralHankerchief


I doubt the mafia are that smart.
Well I'll totally going to use it next time I'm mafia!

[Zack]

Vote: dcmort93

FYI: It's not an OMGUS if you have a reason.

And only scum are so concerned about avoiding scummy behavior. Townies just vote for suspects, they don't care nor think whether or not they link scummy. (At least that's how it is for me.)

[Jolt]

Vote: Jolt

Random.org ^_^

Vote: Byzantine Knight

Not random.org ^_^

[dcmort93]

Vote: dcmort93

FYI: It's not an OMGUS if you have a reason.

And only scum are so concerned about avoiding scummy behavior. Townies just vote for suspects, they don't care nor think whether or not they link scummy. (At least that's how it is for me.)
With the exception of games where I'm so obviously innocent its not even funny (like gangland wars or zelda), I try to act as un-scummy as is possible. Also most people would probably not see the reason for me not OMGUS GH

[johnhughthom]

With the exception of games where I'm so obviously innocent its not even funny (like gangland wars or zelda), I try to act as un-scummy as is possible.

~:idea:

[Kagemusha]

vote: Jolt. Who are you to dismiss the random Gods?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Ah it is going to be one of these games. You know what. These kind of games only harm the town

Please specify.


With the exception of games where I'm so obviously innocent its not even funny (like gangland wars or zelda), I try to act as un-scummy as is possible.

So you're saying that in games where you're guilty, you act scummier then?

[dcmort93]

So you're saying that in games where you're guilty, you act scummier then?No I'm saying I always try to not act like scum

[Zack]

No I'm saying I always try to not act like scum

Why, exactly? Why would you feel the need to try to "not act like scum" (note that you didn't say "act like a townie") when you are townie?

[Believer]

Vote:GeneralHankerchief

Somebody obviously want me dead without having to kill me. ATPG, why'd you have to go? :(

[GeneralHankerchief]

Somebody obviously want me dead without having to kill me. ATPG, why'd you have to go? :(

How so?

[dcmort93]

Because that's just the why I play every game. Try to look as townie and unscummy as possible

[DELETE_THIS]

Please specify.

WIFOM plays, where people act over-scummy to not get lynched.

[GeneralHankerchief]

WIFOM plays, where people act over-scummy to not get lynched.

Good, that's a legitimate reason. Now we just need to work on the others.

[Believer]

How so?

Didn't you read the pre-game banter? In my last game I was killed late while ATPG was killed very early. I was "working hard" to keep him alive so I could have a game with him. Now you've denied me that again!

[GeneralHankerchief]

No, the first part. This part:


Somebody obviously want me dead without having to kill me.

How so to this part?

[Believer]

No, the first part. This part:

How so to this part?

According to the Gods of Supersticiousness I cannot live through a game on the Org if ATPG is dead. Based of course on a study by highly regarded scientists.

[Zack]

Why are you avoiding the question?

[Believer]

Why are you avoiding the question?

I've answered the question, if you're talking to me.

[Zack]

I've answered the question

With a complete and utter non-answer.

[Believer]

With a complete and utter non-answer.

Again, I urge you to read the pre-game banter. I say exactly what I say now. I like ATPG and I wanted to play with him last game, unfortunately he was lynched early and I died later on in the same game. I still want to play a game with him past the first day. He was lynched on the first day and I defended him with shameful fanboyism. I said that he better not die early because in every game I've played with him I too have died. This was meant as a joke, take it however you wish.

Why this is so important to you I have no idea. And the above text is just a repetition of my shorter version a few posts ago. It says everything but somehow you want more.

[Subotan]

ATPG's murder is a ballsy strategy, and not going to be one implemented by the fainthearted - maybe one with an iron will and a newbie, but I doubt that either of the scum is an experienced cautious player (Such as myself; oh how convenient, I've provided a good reason as to why I'm not scum)

Looking at the players, Vote:Chaotix is a good choice given my line of reasoning

[Zack]

Okay. Just seems like a really weird thing to say if that was the reason.

[Diamondeye]

According to the Gods of Supersticiousness I cannot live through a game on the Org if ATPG is dead. Based of course on a study by highly regarded scientists.

So far it has been true in 100% of the case(s).

[GeneralHankerchief]

So far it has been true in 100% of the case(s).

Which was how many times exactly? A 100% rate isn't much to go on if the sample size is 1.

[Beefy187]

Vote: Winston Hughs

Seems like the best choice so far.

[Renata]

My laptop just died. This other computer of ours is really awkward to use, so don't expect to see much of me until this is fixed.

[Greyblades]

This is getting a bit mean, it seems like pizza guy is allways one of the first to go.

[Believer]

Which was how many times exactly? A 100% rate isn't much to go on if the sample size is 1.

The sample size is 1.

[Subotan]

Remember the Star Wars Mafia? He was the only survivor

[Jolt]

vote: Jolt. Who are you to dismiss the random Gods?

Once ByzantineKnight's dead, you'll be next. That's how the random Gods are dwarfed.

[ByzantineKnight]

Once ByzantineKnight's dead, you'll be next. That's how the random Gods are dwarfed.

Now the mafia will target me to implicate you T.T

[Beefy187]

Unvote, Vote: Greyblades

Trying to look innocent by comforting the dead?

[Jolt]

Now the mafia will target me to implicate you T.T

Random.org should have thought of that before it decided to pick me.

[ByzantineKnight]

Random.org should have thought of that before it decided to pick me.

:laugh4:

[Who am i?]

Hello

I will vote Vote: GeneralHankerchiefs

[GeneralHankerchief]

Hello

I will vote Vote: GeneralHankerchiefs

Why?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Even if you guys lynch me I'm still going to hold you all responsible for your actions. There seems to have been a general regression in overall level of play since I last took part in a game; looks like I'm the only one able to whip you all into shape right now. You're not going to get out of it this easily by just bandwagoning me and hoping I go away.

[Believer]

Unvote: GeneralHankerchief

I decided to be fair and not OMGUS. Random.org has decided the fate of...
Vote: Jolt

[ByzantineKnight]

Don't lynch GenHanky I haven't played with him in forever.

[Csargo]

Even if you guys lynch me I'm still going to hold you all responsible for your actions. There seems to have been a general regression in overall level of play since I last took part in a game; looks like I'm the only one able to whip you all into shape right now. You're not going to get out of it this easily by just bandwagoning me and hoping I go away.

If I ask really nicely will you go away?

Vote:Believer

[seireikhaan]

Vote: Believer

[Methos]

@ATPG: The write up sounds awfully familiar to your post in the CFC OT Work Rage thread. Have you posted something similar here at the org? If not, then one of the mafia is someone who reads CFC OT. The only one that I saw that posted in that thread that is in this game is Vote: Classical Hero. Assuming of course that mafia do the write ups.

[B-Wing]

Well I'm confused out of my mind. I guess drinking and thinking don't go hand in hand when it comes to Mafia.


Vote: Jolt

Random.org ^_^

In all seriousness, this is exactly what I was going to do at this point. Consulting Random.org, that is, not vote for Jolt. But since ByzantineKnight was the first to consult the dice, and I'm late to the party, I'll bandwaggon.

Vote: Jolt
Please don't take it personally, Jolt, I love your RTW Forum Game! :embarassed:

[Death is yonder]

Two first round deaths in a row :drama2:


@ATPG: The write up sounds awfully familiar to your post in the CFC OT Work Rage thread. Have you posted something similar here at the org? If not, then one of the mafia is someone who reads CFC OT. The only one that I saw that posted in that thread that is in this game is Vote: Classical Hero. Assuming of course that mafia do the write ups.

If I'm not wrong Andres is okay with a skeletal framework of the kill from the mafia, but they can write it if they want to [but don't quote me on that]

[GeneralHankerchief]

nb: I'll most likely be out all day tomorrow and will only have a chance to pop in and see how things are going, at most.

[Skooma Addict]

Vote: Beefy for leaving cow patties on my lawn.

[Askthepizzaguy]

@Methos, et al, the writeups indicating "Mizza Mut" are likely based on an .org-based rant I did. Probably written by Andres himself, based on a framework from the mafia.

I wouldn't read too much into the writeups, pay more attention to in-thread activity, lurkers, votes, etc.

[Kagemusha]

Once ByzantineKnight's dead, you'll be next. That's how the random Gods are dwarfed.

Heresy!

[Jolt]

Well I'm confused out of my mind. I guess drinking and thinking don't go hand in hand when it comes to Mafia.



In all seriousness, this is exactly what I was going to do at this point. Consulting Random.org, that is, not vote for Jolt. But since ByzantineKnight was the first to consult the dice, and I'm late to the party, I'll bandwaggon.

Vote: Jolt
Please don't take it personally, Jolt, I love your RTW Forum Game! :embarassed:

Waaait... You are actually willingly joining a bandwagon which has no reason to be? And in which you yourself admit to that fact? I'm sorry but if you are late to the party, and don't know on who to vote, you should abstain and never bandwagon, especially never bandwagon on someone who is being voted upon for no reason.

Your little play, along with Believer's "Oh, random.org made me vote for Jolt as well!", what it does making you paint targets on yourselves.

[Jolt]

Heresy!

Don't worry, the extremely curious voting, timing and reasoning of Believer and B_Ray has just shifted my suspicions to them.

[Askthepizzaguy]

B_Nice.

[Jolt]

Btw.

Unvote; Vote: Believer

[God Emperor]

Unvote Subotan; Vote: Jolt

..... :laugh4:
On a more serious note, I fail to see how you can blame people for not having good reasons to vote someone on a day 1. But Omgus voting is not nice

[Jolt]

Unvote Subotan; Vote: Jolt

..... :laugh4:
On a more serious note, I fail to see how you can blame people for not having good reasons to vote someone on a day 1. But Omgus voting is not nice

You fail to see simple things then.

[ByzantineKnight]

Unvote: THE BLASPHEMER *coughJoltcough* ; Vote: God Emperor

Bandwagoning on day one :o

[God Emperor]

Please keep a somewhat civil tone Jolt

[Diamondeye]

Which was how many times exactly? A 100% rate isn't much to go on if the sample size is 1.

The sample size is 1.

Well, a strikeout isn't easy to see on an s, is it?
((You should notice when quoting my original statement though, it says 'true 100% of the time-STRIKEOUT'ed-s))


Don't lynch GenHanky I haven't played with him in forever.

:laugh4: I guess it's better than nothing. Still, "he hasn't played in forever" is probably less selfish-sounding :wink:

[Jolt]

Please keep a somewhat civil tone Jolt

?

I'm being civil.

[Captain Blackadder]

Vote DCMort

His reaction to GH to me seems overly defensive for what is basically the first day lynch. To me that reeks of scum plus his comments latter do not inspire me to think townie.

[robbiecon]

Vote: Kagemusha, never trust the last person in the door.

[Greyblades]

Unvote, Vote: Greyblades

Trying to look innocent by comforting the dead?

:inquisitive:... I hadn't thought of that, I'll have to remember that one.

Any chance of a tally?

[Scienter]

I'm going out and will be gone until after the vote deadline so I'm gonna Vote: DCMort because he's been talking a lot and figuring out who to vote for at the beginning of the game doesn't really seem to have any bearing on who seems like scum or not. Random.org?

[johnhughthom]

unvote, Vote: dcmort

Tally:

dcmort: 5 (GH, Zack, Capt B, jht, Scienter)
Jolt: 4 (Kage, Believer, B_Ray, GE)
Believer: 3 (Csargo, khaan, Jolt)
GH: 2 (Nictel, Saregona)
BK: 1 (dcmort)
Chaotix: 1 (Subotan)
Greyblades: 1 (Beefy)
Classical_Hero: 1 (Methos)
Beefy: 1(Skooma)
GE: 1 (BK)
Kage: 1 (robbiecon)


edit: post edited as I missed Scienter's vote.

[Greyblades]

Vote: Jolt

[B-Wing]

You didn't unvote first, Greyblades. Don't know how strict they are about that, but it seems to be a pretty big deal.

[johnhughthom]

You didn't unvote first, Greyblades. Don't know how strict they are about that, but it seems to be a pretty big deal.

Did he have a vote to unvote?

[Seon]

Vote: Jolt. Hello thar

[Jolt]

Vote: Jolt


Vote: Jolt. Hello thar

:laugh4:

Reasons?

[Zack]

Waaait... You are actually willingly joining a bandwagon which has no reason to be? And in which you yourself admit to that fact? I'm sorry but if you are late to the party, and don't know on who to vote, you should abstain and never bandwagon, especially never bandwagon on someone who is being voted upon for no reason.

Your little play, along with Believer's "Oh, random.org made me vote for Jolt as well!", what it does making you paint targets on yourselves.


Don't worry, the extremely curious voting, timing and reasoning of Believer and B_Ray has just shifted my suspicions to them.


You fail to see simple things then.


:laugh4:

Reasons?

Chill out. It's Day 1.

[Winston Hughes]

Vote: Winston Hughs

Seems like the best choice so far.

vote: Beefy

Too inscrutable by half.

[Jolt]

Chill out. It's Day 1.

This is the day where the mafiosi can bandwagon without even arguing, thus why I am asking for their reasons. The fact that I saw a second person use the random.org excuse to place a vote on me and not so much later on another one saying he had no idea who to vote and so he voted on me as well, is information that can be used to track down those who have scummy behaviours on Day 1. This is how mafiosi are caught early on and not in late game.

[Zack]

Analyzing Day 1 votes is like trying to rehab Charlie Sheen.

An exercise in futility.

[Jolt]

Analyzing Day 1 votes is like trying to rehab Charlie Sheen.

An exercise in futility.

I would advise you to see how Sasaki got to me on Day 1, in one of ATPG's games, then.

[Jolt]

Unvote; Vote: DCMort

[Seon]

:laugh4:

Reasons?

Because you look scummy.

[Secura]

vote: God Emperor


?

I'm being civil.

Your post implied otherwise, actually; "you fail to see simple things" come across as calling someone dumb. :/

[Greyblades]

:laugh4:

Reasons?

I dont realy like accusations that claim someone is scum because they are defensive, it realy rubs me the wrong way. I'm not certain DCmort's innocent but you come off as more scummy than him right now.

[Andres]

Voting concluded. Stand by for execution. Mafia can already send in their kill choices. If I'm not mistaken, Jolt will bite the dust.

[Andres]

Day 2

The day was coming to an end. It had been a sunny day with splendid weather. Chief of Police Andres had been spending time with his beloved ones: a crate of Duvel and a crate of Westmalle Trippel.

He stumbled outside of the Police building and walked over to the execution platform, where he saw Jolt and dcmort93 standing, trembling in fear.

Andres picked a die out of his pocket, murmured something about random day 1 lynches, then he said: "1,3 or 6 means Jolt dies, 2, 4 or 5 means dcmort93 dies." He paused and looked at dcmort93. "Whatever happened with the other 92 dcmorts?".

He rolled the die and it showed: 1. dcmort93 fell on his knees and starting to thank the Gods of random, the Chief of Police, his mother and his three hot nieces for learning him... stuff.

In the meanwhile, Jolt was still standing, angry and in tears.

“Why have the gods forsaken me? Why, oh why? Why did they randomly pick me and not dcmort? Or this drunken excuse for a chief of police?”

Andres gave the man a firm look.

“I beg you pardon?”

“I didn’t mean it that way! Oh please, have mercy, have mercy, oh you allmighty” BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!

Four shots of his Magnum .357 ended Jolts’ laments.

“I don’t know if he was scum or not, and frankly I do not care. NOBODY… DISRESPECTS… ME!!”

Andres took a deep breathe and sipped from his last Westmalle Trippel of the evening.

“Good night, ladies and gentlemen.”

He left the execution platform.


***

Tally

Jolt: 6 (Kagemusha, God Emperor, Greyblades, B_Ray, Seon, Believer) :skull:
dcmort 93: 6 (Scienter, GeneralHankerchief, Zack, Jolt, JHT, Captain Blackadder)

Believer: 2 (Yaseikhaan, Csargo)
Beefy187: 2 (Skooma Addict, Winston Hughes)
GeneralHankerchief : 2 (Nictel, Saregona)
God Emperor: 2 (ByzantineKnight, Secura)
classical hero: 1 (Methos)
ByzantineKnight : 1 (dcmort93)
Chaotix: 1 (Subotan)
Greyblades: 1 (Beefy187)
Kagemusha: 1 (robbiecon)

Abstain: 0
Not voting: 3 (Chaotix, Renata, classical hero)



***

Alive (27)
Subotan
johnhughthom
Renata
GeneralHankerchief
Captain Blackadder
Beefy187
Saregona
Zack
Csargo
B Ray
Yaseikhaan
Believer
classical hero
Byzantine Knight
Methos
dcmort93
Nictel
Scienter
Chaotix
Skooma Addict
robbiecon
Secura
Seon
Winston Hughes
Greyblades
God Emperor
Kagemusha

Killed (2)
ATPG
DiY

Lynched (1)
Jolt

WoG (0)


***

It's night. Next day starts within +/- 23 hours.

EDIT: corrected the tally (thnx GH :bow:). Tied between Jolt and dcmort93. Die roll at random.org decided the lynch.

[ByzantineKnight]

I would advise you to see how Sasaki got to me on Day 1, in one of ATPG's games, then.

I read that game, that was pretty epic but you were acting kinda scummy... The writeups were the best ^_^

[classical_hero]

I am feelin unwell right now, so I have not been able to vote, so i will try to do so when i am better.

[Jolt]

vote: God Emperor



Your post implied otherwise, actually; "you fail to see simple things" come across as calling someone dumb. :/

You are misinterpreting me. I meant exactly what I wrote. There were no implied meanings or trying to come across saying something else.


I read that game, that was pretty epic but you were acting kinda scummy... The writeups were the best ^_^

In the hindsight it was looks like Mafia were acting scummy. The fact was that noone even suspected of anything I did until Sasaki thought something was off.

Anyways, B_Ray and Believer look by far the most scummy to me.

[ByzantineKnight]

In the hindsight it was looks like Mafia were acting scummy. The fact was that noone even suspected of anything I did until Sasaki thought something was off.

ATPG gave me the link and I was just reading it from the view of an objective outsider. I had no idea who was mafia until the writeups.

EDIT: If it makes you feel better, I don't think you are mafia in this one.

[Believer]

You are misinterpreting me. I meant exactly what I wrote. There were no implied meanings or trying to come across saying something else.



In the hindsight it was looks like Mafia were acting scummy. The fact was that noone even suspected of anything I did until Sasaki thought something was off.

Anyways, B_Ray and Believer look by far the most scummy to me.

Because I voted for you?

[B-Wing]

They've figured us out, Believer! Quick, let's scram!

:hide:

[Jolt]

Because I voted for you?

Oh, no. See, ByzantineKnight also voted for me, and Kagemusha, among others and I'm not saying they are Mafia.

However, the reasoning (random.org? After having voted for GH? Hehe.) and timing of it (Especially when included in B_Ray's later intervention), is all very curious.

[Jolt]

They've figured us out, Believer! Quick, let's scram!

:hide:

Why didn't you abstain?

[B-Wing]

Why didn't you abstain?

I guess I could have. Doesn't really seem to fit the spirit of the game, to me. Apart from the ongoing Pokemon-themed game hosted by Chaotix, the last time I played a true Mafia game was back in 2006, when it was just getting started on these forums. I don't think abstaining was even an option then. But regardless, I was going to use Random.org to select a lynchee (which you'll see I did in Chaotix's game just last week on the first round of play; I didn't realize that was a common practice at the time, and thought I was being rather original :beam:) anyway. But when I saw that ByzantineKnight had already done exactly what I intended to do, I figured why not go with his result. A diviner doesn't read the bones / roll the dice / boil the leaves a second time just because he didn't particularly like the first outcome; there would be no point in using the method if you're going to do that. I'm not that superstitious, by any means, mind you, but I didn't see a point in doing my own randoming when it had already been done.

I understand that its better to go off logic rather than random chance when selecting a lynchee, but this is only the first day. All we have to go off of is who got killed by the mafia. I don't know anything about Death is Yonder. Askthepizzaguy is currently playing Chaotix's game and Cops & Robbers, which is all the contact I've had with him. He did vote for my character in MewTew's Revenge, at which point I thought he had broken a tie (turns out I had counted the votes wrong anyway) so I declared him my enemy, which is why I made the joke about having him assassinated before Night 0 in this game. I realize the fact that it actually happened makes me look like a mafioso - but if I really was, why would I draw attention to the fact just before actually doing it?

Either I'm that dumb or I was hoping to make it look like I'd been framed. If anyone thinks either of those scenarios is likely, I'm not gonna argue about it.

[Andres]

Night 2

Csargo was smoking his pipe, sitting in his garden, while cleaning his good old trustworthy shotgun.

An inhabitant of Gameroomville passed by and noticed how Csargo was busy.

"Nice weapon you have there."

"Thanks. It has saved my life on many occasions."

"I'm sure it did. But with the mafia having infiltrated our town, you might want to have something bigger and stronger."

"Nope, my shotgun will do just fine."

"Maybe you'll change your mind after I've given you a demonstration with my..."

"Look, I don't care, allright? I'm not interested in your demonstration. I have all I need right here," he said, and he picked up his shotgun and showed it to the intruder.

"A pity," the mysterious person said and he instantly kneeled down, holding an M249 SAW and aiming it at Csargo's head.

"What the :daisy:"

"BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM"

An obscene amount of bullets reduced Csargo's head to an unrecognisable bloody mess.

"No swearing in Gameroomville," the mafioso said.


***

Yaseikhaan was eating a plate of spaghetti bolognaise in the local restaurant.

"Antonio" was the best Italian restaurant in Gameroomville. Heck, it probably was the best Italian in the entire US of A.

He ordered a second bottle of Chianti and hardly looked up when it arrived within a minute. You never had to wait long in "Antonio".

Without giving it a second thought, he poured some wine in his glas and moved it to his lips.

He sipped from the wine, paused, put the glas down and continued eating.

He was enjoying his meal so much, that he didn't notice the mafioso with the garrotte sneaking up to him.

With a cruel grin, the mafioso strangled 'khaan to death.


***

Day 3

Chief of Police Andres was standing on a high platform.

"Ladies and gentlemen, we had two deaths again tonight. The first one was Csargo, who got killed for not wanting to buy a new gun and swearing. The second victim of the mafia was Yaseikhaan. The owner of "Antonio", Mister Wi Fung Lang, has urged you all to find the killers ASAP, since they ruined the reputation of his restaurant."

Without further hesitation, the townies began their discussions.


***

Alive (25)
Subotan
johnhughthom
Renata
GeneralHankerchief
Captain Blackadder
Beefy187
Saregona
Zack
B Ray
Believer
classical hero
Byzantine Knight
Methos
dcmort93
Nictel
Scienter
Chaotix
Skooma Addict
robbiecon
Secura
Seon
Winston Hughes
Greyblades
God Emperor
Kagemusha

Killed (4)
ATPG
DiY
Csargo
Yaseikhaan

Lynched (1)
Jolt

WoG (0)


***

It's now day. Day will last for +/- 24 hours.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote: dcmort93

As per sneaking by yesterday.

[Zack]

Vote: dcmort93

Same reasons I gave yesterday.

[robbiecon]

I'm going to offer you a different option.

Vote: Renata, it is most uncharacteristic of her to miss a vote.

[B-Wing]

Her laptop is broken, actually. She stated so in a couple other threads

[Subotan]

I'm happy to keep my Vote on Chaotix for now, at least until he responds in thread.

[ByzantineKnight]

Her laptop is broken, actually. She stated so in a couple other threads

She stated so in this thread too iirc

[B-Wing]

vote : Nictel

Found his actions and explanations earlier on questionable. Plus he voted for me at one point. But haven't heard from him in a few pages now. Seems no less "scummy" than dcmort93, who appears to be pulling the bandwagon at the moment.

[Greyblades]

vote: nictel

[DELETE_THIS]

Wow.

vote : Nictel

Found his actions and explanations earlier on questionable. Plus he voted for me at one point. But haven't heard from him in a few pages now. Seems no less "scummy" than dcmort93, who appears to be pulling the bandwagon at the moment.

Oh yes very questionable indeed. What exactly did you find questionable? And an OMGUS as well? You really don't know how to hide well do you?


vote: nictel

And a reasonless vote seems I found two mafia already!

Lets start with B_Ray for his lack of explanation and for putting forward really dumb arguments. Oh and that OMGUS.

[B-Wing]

You've convinced me. Unvote; Vote B_R... wait a minute! I'm not particularly keen on calling players scummy at this point in the game, but if anybody's reactions seem overly defensive so far, it's you.
:stare:

[DELETE_THIS]

OH B-Ray, digging a bigger hole are we? Nothing about my post was defensive ánd you haven't answered any of my questions.

[Zack]

Nictel is scummy?

Can't say that's ever happened before. :laugh4:

[johnhughthom]

Vote: dcmort

[Askthepizzaguy]

A dead hand reaches up from the grave, and grabs Chaotix by the leg.

FRESH MEAT.

[Csargo]

This makes me angry.

[Renata]

Good lord Nictel, since when do you talk this much?

B_ray, which reasons and actions? Back it up, please.

[Renata]

A dead hand reaches up from the grave, and grabs Chaotix by the leg.

FRESH MEAT.

Yeah, about that, whatever happened to the speculation yesterday on the night zero deaths? It's about the only thing I noticed before my laptop went kerblooey. Or maybe it was after. Whichever.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yeah, about that, whatever happened to the speculation yesterday on the night zero deaths? It's about the only thing I noticed before my laptop went kerblooey. Or maybe it was after. Whichever.

Speculation? I dunno. Pointing fingers based on who died at this stage seems no better than a shot in the dark. It's like saying "Sasaki would never kill Askthepizzaguy right away". It makes no sense. Of course he would, and anyone would.

But, don't let me stop the discussion. Let the speculation commence. If you manage to hit the right target based on that, then I will eat my silver mask. By the way, I've been forced to eat a lot of things based on similar statements, so by all means call me on it.

[seireikhaan]

A dead hand reaches up from the grave, and grabs Chaotix by the leg.

FRESH MEAT.
Cheating already on me, sweety? And just as I was coming home, too! :bigcry:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Cheating already on me, sweety? And just as I was coming home, too! :bigcry:

I try to make my random meaningless non-binding accusations land on living suspects whenever possible, out of some stubborn allegiance to the town. That way if I'm right I can go mwahahahaha and if I'm wrong I can slink away and go "what were you listening to me for? I was dead!"

Besides, I'm saving you for our magical night together in the Pokemon mafia. I can't wait to unwrap you.

[Methos]

@ATGP: Regarding what I said earlier, the write up is almost exactly what you said in that CFC OT thread and I don't recall seeing Andres over there. So unless you made a very similar statement over here, then one of the mafia has to be from CFC OT. In that thread you discussed how your charged by your employer for each delivery and often your tips don't cover that cost and the write up is very similar to that. There are other similarities too, hence my curiosity about where else you've complained about that.

While I still find CFC OT people suspicious, I'm curious about Vote: B_Ray.

[Askthepizzaguy]

@ATGP: Regarding what I said earlier,

You don't think a resourceful scumbag couldn't shadow me on other sites and deflect suspicion that way?

It's allowing oneself to react to moves which we KNOW came from scumbags. It's wide-open for psychological manipulation.

That said, I will agree certain players are more likely to play on that level than others.

[dcmort93]

I think I'm gonna Vote Believer especially due to the fact that all of the people who have voted for him are now dead. Suspicious? I think so

[Csargo]

dcmort why did you kill me?

[Who am i?]

This makes me angry.

Hello

This not good.

Are you glorious?

Vote: Csargo

[dcmort93]

believer why did you kill me?That is what you should be asking

[Zack]

Hello

This not good.

Are you glorious?

Vote: Csargo

What the ... ?

[B-Wing]

OH B-Ray, digging a bigger hole are we? Nothing about my post was defensive ánd you haven't answered any of my questions.


And a reasonless vote seems I found two mafia already!

Lets start with B_Ray for his lack of explanation and for putting forward really dumb arguments. Oh and that OMGUS.

You don't consider that defensive? Accusing two players (the other being Greyblades) of being mafia as soon as they vote for you? Insulting the intelligence of my decision? Accusing me of "OMGUS" voting?

To answer your question, here's what I considered suspicious:


Never been that easy: Vote: B_Ray
This because I jokingly "voted" for Pizza to be assassinated before the game had even been started. And I've stated my reason for this on page 7, if one was even needed. Maybe you were just joking, but I would certainly think it was obvious that a mafioso wouldn't publicly declare his target immediately before killing them.


Bit strong reaction or not? Hmm YOU MAFIA?!
Nothing terribly wrong with this; he just seems super eager to point suspicion at whoever he can. This comment was directed at dcmort93, though, who had already drawn suspicion from others.


Ah it is going to be one of these games. You know what. These kind of games only harm the town: Unvote; Vote GeneralHankerchief
This was in response to General saying that he "had a town to mislead", which I think was an obvious joke, so voting for him seems ridiculously unnecessary.

Now in my own defence: Nictel, just before I voted for you, 2 of the 3 previous voters had gone for dcmort93, with somewhat good reasoning. If I were a mafioso, why in the world wouldn't I just hop on the bandwagon? Or remain silent for a little longer, and pick some other less controversial vote? Nobody had even mentioned me since that one off-hand vote you made at the very beginning of the game, and you even changed it before the Day ended. So if I was just worried about getting caught, why would I bring it up again later when nobody had even said anything about it? Does this seem like a sound strategy for deflecting attention from myself?

The reason I voted for you is for the posts you made which I quoted above. Earlier today, I scanned through all the previous posts since Night 0 and tried to pick out anything that looked fishy. Your posts stood out to me, though no doubt amplified by the fact that you had voted for me. I admit that much. But I didn't vote for you out of pure "OMGUS" sentiments.

Any other questions?

[ByzantineKnight]

@ATGP: Regarding what I said earlier, the write up is almost exactly what you said in that CFC OT thread and I don't recall seeing Andres over there. So unless you made a very similar statement over here, then one of the mafia has to be from CFC OT. In that thread you discussed how your charged by your employer for each delivery and often your tips don't cover that cost and the write up is very similar to that. There are other similarities too, hence my curiosity about where else you've complained about that.

While I still find CFC OT people suspicious, I'm curious about Vote: B_Ray.

It really sounds to me like you're trying to nudge the town's vote while remaining out of the spotlight here. The first time you brought this up no one really paid attention, so you bring it up again. If it was really important enough for two posts when the first one was disregarded I think you probably would have done the dirty work and come up with a list of players who had been in that game.

But instead you are trying to nudge the town in the direction of the players in that game without remaining in the spotlight. And to make matters worse, you won't even start voting for one of those players but instead hop on a bandwagon with almost no credibility.

It sounds to me like you are mafia; you put that little (obscure) reference to a previous game on a different forum into a night kill on ATPG and when no one picked up on it you keep bringing it up (even a day later). All the while staying out of the spotlight. Very clever :bow:

And besides, who would try and put a detail into a writeup that could lead back to him/her unless they were intending to use it to mislead the town.

TL;DR Version:
Makes a big deal out of a detail in the writeup of ATPG's and yet refuses to act on it or do anything that would make him stick out to the town...

I will Vote: Methos and I would encourage everyone else to do so as well.

[ByzantineKnight]

To avoid editing my voting post and to get a +1 to votecount:

And also, I'm just going to assume that you were part of that game and thats how you caught that little detail so we can start on the players by voting for you. ^_^

And some food for thought: show of hands, how many people would have caught that similarity between ATPG's death and CFC OT? Either you have much better recall than I do or you planned this. Not that I'm a genius or anything but you must have an amazing memory.

[Zack]

And some food for thought: show of hands, how many people would have caught that similarity between ATPG's death and CFC OT? Either you have much better recall than I do or you planned this. Not that I'm a genius or anything but you must have an amazing memory.Gee, I wonder why. Couldn't possibly be because he's a CFCer.

[B-Wing]

What is CFC OT?

[ByzantineKnight]

Gee, I wonder why. Couldn't possibly be because he's a CFCer.

Are you saying CFCer's have great memory? I know he's a CFCer, he's referencing a game there...


What is CFC OT?

Apparently a game that was played at CFC

[Renata]

OT is the off topic forum; Methos is or used to be a moderator there (right?). However, CFC OT is certainly not the only place that Pizza has discussed his execrable job conditions. Methos probably wouldn't know that, though.

I buy B_ray's explanation of what he found to be scummy about Nictel; and further I find him scummy myself. Especially that vote on General Hankerchief. "X player is harming the town, must vote, tsk tsk." Scum tell.

vote: Nictel

[B-Wing]

OK, Google answered that for me. I didn't realize CFC stood for Civilization Fans Center. I assumed it was an old Mafia game.

[Skooma Addict]

Vote: Nictel

Bit of a strong reaction to two quick votes this early in the game. Can't say that it smells scummy, but my nose is definitely twitching.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Is anyone avoiding the discussion, seemingly deliberately? These vanilla games where there's no reveal on lynch make it easy for scums to just blend in with the driftwood and do nothing. It would be a wise strategy for the mafia to sit back and say nothing.

Does anyone meet that description?

[Believer]

Days and nights are just all around me at the moment. My sleeping has been severely disturbed these last few nights. Following this I don't know quite when this round ends or if I have time to analyze the thread any further. I did however read the last page and B-Knight seems to me on to something.

Vote: Methos

Please explain why you think this is so important.

[classical_hero]

Methos has never been a mod of OT at CFC, he is just in charge of the Forum games section. Vote:dcmort93

[Winston Hughes]

Is anyone avoiding the discussion, seemingly deliberately? These vanilla games where there's no reveal on lynch make it easy for scums to just blend in with the driftwood and do nothing. It would be a wise strategy for the mafia to sit back and say nothing.

Does anyone meet that description?

I do!

So does Beefy!

vote: Beefy

[johnhughthom]

Is anyone avoiding the discussion, seemingly deliberately? These vanilla games where there's no reveal on lynch make it easy for scums to just blend in with the driftwood and do nothing. It would be a wise strategy for the mafia to sit back and say nothing.

Does anyone meet that description?

Popping up to post a tally, and then sticking a vote without reasoning in there, then voting for the same person with no reasoning next day would be even worse, especially if the rest of their posts were meaningless fluff. I wonder if anybody has done that?

[Winston Hughes]

Popping up to post a tally, and then sticking a vote without reasoning in there, then voting for the same person with no reasoning next day would be even worse, especially if the rest of their posts were meaningless fluff. I wonder if anybody has done that?

Tempting... But I'm sticking with the Beefster.

[God Emperor]

Hmm.... Dcmort I can't help but feel that you trying to deflect suspicion away from yourself by going after Believer the way you are doing it.
In other words, you would rather 'mislead' than taking a dive. . (I can ofc quote, but I am talking about your two most recent posts)

@ Renata , what do you think about lynching Dcmort?

[dcmort93]

True but to be quite honest with you I doubt that is the case, although it is too early to tell at the moment. Believer has said nothing after my vote for him, meaning he is probably trying to stay under the radar for the time being because he is scum

[Believer]

True but to be quite honest with you I doubt that is the case, although it is too early to tell at the moment. Believer has said nothing after my vote for him, meaning he is probably trying to stay under the radar for the time being because he is scum

I've found that whenever I put myself in the spotlight I tend to take up too much space, drowning the actual useful discussion. But if you want me to comment I'll do so.
My thoughts around your vote; Meh. There's nothing tangible to seriously vote for anyone right now, just some light pressure can be applied. Vote for me if you wish but I can't see the gain.

[Renata]

Dunno, God Emperor, as I haven't even read day one in full and have no idea why people did or are voting for him.

JHT, go easy on someone who's about to take in her computer for minor surgery -- who are you referring to? Yourself?

[johnhughthom]

JHT, go easy on someone who's about to take in her computer for minor surgery -- who are you referring to? Yourself?

You know me so well.

[Kagemusha]

Vote: B_Ray. You seem to be very much on the defensive.[/URL][URL="https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?16716-B_Ray"] (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?16716-B_Ray)

[B-Wing]

At least I'm rational about it.

[Chaotix]

Vote: Kagemusha

Because I feel like it.

[Csargo]

At least I'm rational about it.

Ah, you made me laugh hard.


Hello

This not good.

Are you glorious?

Vote: Csargo

I am indeed glorious, because even in death I still have people voting for me :smug:

[Diamondeye]

Ah, you made me laugh hard.

I am indeed glorious, because even in death I still have people voting for me :smug:

https://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3649/1219945105145lp2.jpg

[Secura]

vote: dcmort93

[Andres]

Voting concluded. Stand by for execution.

[Methos]

The first time you brought this up no one really paid attention, so you bring it up again. If it was really important enough for two posts when the first one was disregarded I think you probably would have done the dirty work and come up with a list of players who had been in that game.

Considering that I was gone all weekend it would make sense.


And besides, who would try and put a detail into a writeup that could lead back to him/her unless they were intending to use it to mislead the town.

Sounds like your the one trying to manipulate the facts. In both posts I specifically ask if ATPG posted it in other forums, yet you conveniently ignore that. Are you trying to manipulate the vote yourself?


TL;DR Version:
Makes a big deal out of a detail in the writeup of ATPG's and yet refuses to act on it or do anything that would make him stick out to the town...

The more you post, the more manipulative you sound. Or is it just because you don't recognize me that you figure you can get away with it? Once again, I suggest you look at my posts. My first post on the subject I voted for CH who did post in that thread.

I asked for clarity in my first post and ATPG didn't answer, so I asked a second time to be clear.


OT is the off topic forum; Methos is or used to be a moderator there (right?). However, CFC OT is certainly not the only place that Pizza has discussed his execrable job conditions. Methos probably wouldn't know that, though.


Methos has never been a mod of OT at CFC, he is just in charge of the Forum games section. Vote:dcmort93

Correct. I was never a moderator of OT (Off Topic), nor do I have a desire too. As I stated above, I wanted clarity from ATPG to make sure he had posted that information on other sites then just CFC. I only follow CFC, so I wouldn't notice if he did so here. If the answer is that ATPG only posted it at CFC, then I can get a better idea of who here frequents CFC OT. If ATPG states he's posted his financial complaints about tipping and his job elsewhere, then there's no need for me to do so.

[No personal attacks please - GH]