Music Mafia [Concluded]

[Believer]

unvote: vote: Believer



I realise that I haven't actually voted, so I'm going to follow my earlier convictions and vote: Believer. You were particularly active in Animus, yet here you're skirting by, barely posting... what gives?


Ladies, I thought you had my back? :(
As for my activity; This game has shorter rounds, I went to bed at 08:00 AM CET and before that I only saw useless accusation of Secura, I woke up about 20 minutes ago (17:00 PM CET). There wasn't much to say about the Secura bandwagon, I trust that she can take care of herself.

Now, to vote. I've always wanted to do this. :$
Vote: Renata

[Renata]

I like you too Believer. :)

And whoever guessed I'm a neutral -- nope.

[B-Wing]

All this back and forth between Secura and Visorslash ain't doing no good for any of us. I don't trust either one of you; nobody talks that much unless they got something to hide. But I gotta vote: Visorslash for flip-flopping on his votes so much. You gotta make your decision and stand by it.

[Seon]

VOTE Visorslash for presidency!

[Secura]

I don't trust either one of you; nobody talks that much unless they got something to hide.

Have you never played a game with Pizza and his sesquipedalian loquaciousness? He usually ranks among the top posters in nearly every game he plays, does that mean he's scum with something to hide in each and every one?

I think that this is a poor approach to take to playing mafia; would you rather than people simply vote and not contribute anything? That I allow people to accuse me and then don't defend myself? Lurking doesn't win games often, and it's not behaviour I endorse or adopt.

[B-Wing]

sesquipedalian loquaciousness

I don't know what that means, but I just tried repeating it and I vomitted in the process. I would vote for you now, but I'm already committed to bringing down Visorslash. And Lady Gaga? Her music's alright, but what kind of person is she? Just a celebrity, looking to be famous by whatever means necessary. I can appreciate the determination, but I'm the realest artist in this studio. Anybody that would openly support her gets my suspicion.

[Believer]

I can appreciate the determination, but I'm the realest artist in this studio. Anybody that would openly support her gets my suspicion.

2pac! I knew you'd come back to us one day. Keep it real brother. <3

[Diamondeye]

Music Mafia
The end of the second day

All through the day, the passing of the much-beloved Lady GaGa had kicked the Artists into action, and the day was dominated by heavy debating and arguments flying back and forth. The focus shifted from one Artist to the next, and at sundown, it seemed as if a small plurality had finally decided to take action against Autolycus. The three accusers closed in on him, the crowd in the background not daring to stop them.

"You killed GaGa!"
Autolycus looked at them, a strange glint in his eyes.
"What are you gonna do? Cry?", he answered. The eyes of the accusers widened.
"You don't deny it? You killed GaGa?"
One of them pushed Autolycus towards the edge of the cabinet, that fateful fall which could not be survived. He found his balance just before the edge, and then he reached around his back and found a gun.
"Yeah I did. Sue me. You want me to kill you, too?"
He pointed the gun right at one of his accusers. "Let's dance a little dance, shall we? Everyone, square dance with me!"
And he started firing maniacally at the feet of his accusers; they quickly backed away.
Except one of them didn't, he just shifted to the side, outside Autolycus' line of sight. With a sudden movement, he closed in and pushed the renegade rapper over the edge.

Autolycus was Eminem!
https://i51.tinypic.com/20puii9.jpg
He was of Neutral popularity and of neutral favor with the DJ!

Tally:
Autolycus: 3 (Spl1tp3r50nal1ty, AskThePizzaGuy, Classical_Hero)
Secora: 2 (Robbiecon, Autolycus)
Visorslash: 2 (Csargo, B_ray)
Believer: 1 (Renata)
Renata: 1 (Believer)

Players Alive (14):
TheLastDays
Renata
Visorslash
B Ray
Romanic
AskThePizzaGuy
Robbiecon
Csargo
Secura
Chaotix
Classical_Hero
Spl1tPersonality
Captain Blackadder
Believer

It is now night two!
PM me your night orders, please!
Day breaks in approximately 24 hours - 10 PM CEST tomorrow.

[Seon]

BAD BOYS! You are supposed to be killing Visorslash right now! Not another serial killer!

[Believer]

Too late.. For the other side.

[B-Wing]

A true neutral admitted to murdering? So I guess it's not just the unpopular or the unfavored we gotta worry about. I'm gonna miss him, though. *pours some liquor on the ground*

[Romanic]

Apologies for missing the vote, I work too much these days. :(

I guess that finding a gun on autolycus/Eminem means that he might have been a serial killer.

[Captain Blackadder]

Hopefully he was since getting the sk this early makes it much harder for the mafia. Guess we will find out tonight.

Also if he is a serial killer then I was right that the second one on the secura wagon was scum.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I knew that case on Secura was horse dooky, but I knew that people following such a case were even more full of it.

[Csargo]

Calm down ATPG. It's going to be okay, just take deep breaths.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Calm down ATPG. It's going to be okay, just take deep breaths.

Until I die! :stare:


I accuse you of being my eventual killer.

[Csargo]

Until I die! :stare:


I accuse you of being my eventual killer.

Hah! You can't prove I'll eventually do you have accused me of doing! Your accusation is cute but ultimately futile. My victory is assured!

[Visor]

I would vote for you now, but I'm already committed to bringing down Visorslash.

Committed for the game? Or for the round?

[classical_hero]

Before posting the writeup let me just say that this is awesome. You're the favourite for this game's "fluffy awesome" prize so far :tongue:
If only she dressed properly she could be majorly hot after watching that video. It is a shame she tries to be "controversial all the time. She is totally :daisy: in that clip, but I am a
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0

[Visor]

Secura is a Gaga fan, as am I and several others here.

Must kill.....

[TheLastDays]

Visor your list is getting pretty big, isn't it? You want to kill me, all Gaga fans... Who's next?
Also... I might not agree with other people's musical tastes but kill them for it?
I'm wondering if this might be the first time the town's right about wanting to lynch you...

FoS: Visorslash

[Visor]

So who here likes... it?

Kill List:
TheLastDays (Obviously)
Secura (Second choice to die)
Renata (I can't remember why, but I also need to kill you)
ATPG (You disappoint me)
Romanichine (While we're at it)

Am I missing anyone?

Yes, I would kill those people because I hate their music tastes.

So, you'll be dead tonight, then if Secura isn't dead tonight as well, she'll hopefully be lynched, but if not, I'll try to get the people on my list killed off. Anyone else who likes.... it, speak now, or I'll kill you anyway. :D

[Seon]

You forgot to add me to the list, mafioso!

[TheLastDays]

Nice work, you forgot DE though. He's also a Gaga fan and I'm sure you can figure out a way to kill the host ;)

Anyway... I probably won't die tonight, regardless of you being mafia or town. I'm a good lynch target right now. If I die my dead fingers will still write "Visorslash" with my own blood. I think you have the balls to kill the person you claimed to kill and then argue you're being framed...

[Visor]

You forgot to add me to the list, mafioso!

I already killed you.


Nice work, you forgot DE though. He's also a Gaga fan and I'm sure you can figure out a way to kill the host ;)

Hmm......


Anyway... I probably won't die tonight, regardless of you being mafia or town. I'm a good lynch target right now.

I would say the same here. Bring it on town! :D


I think you have the balls to kill the person you claimed to kill and then argue you're being framed...
I think I do to. So you don't mind if I get you killed next night, and kill B_Ray tonight to fool the town?

[Seon]

I already killed you.

I aten't dead just yet, boyo! My zombie will kill you!

[Visor]

Shotgun fires close by, other artists look around, find zombie in a thousand pieces.

:D

[Seon]

'tis only a flesh wound!

[Visor]

Not when you have no flesh!

Flamethrower ignites, burns Zombie to ashes, which is put into a organ jar.

[Secura]

I knew that case on Secura was horse dooky, but I knew that people following such a case were even more full of it.

Indeed, it was.

The great thing is, there's nothing for me to lose by dying now; my flourish is pretty difficult to attain and I have no means of ensuring I get it, since I'm only vanilla... if I die then at least it's not a power role being targeted. In addition, my alignment will be proven to my detractors and I can continue to remain active.

[Visor]

So I'm better off trying to kill someone else, as you ain't a power role?

Thanks. :bow:

[Secura]

It's a catch-22 situation though; the mafia has to kill me sooner or later, and if I no longer serve as lynchbait, then what's the point in keeping me around?

[Visor]

Because I can put you as lynchbait in the future? I'll bring it up later.

[Secura]

Because I can put you as lynchbait in the future? I'll bring it up later.

Recycling the same arguments that fell flat here? That's not going to work, good sir... :P

[Visor]

I'm not recycling anything. Except your body when I kill you.

ATPG was right. :yes:

Visorslash = Guilty.

[Renata]

Hopefully he was since getting the sk this early makes it much harder for the mafia. Guess we will find out tonight.

Also if he is a serial killer then I was right that the second one on the secura wagon was scum.

??? Autolycus was the second on the Secura bandwagon. Unless you mean prior to split's changed vote; in that case it would be him.

Diamondeye, is that vote count accurate? You don't have Secura voting for Believer.

[Believer]

??? Autolycus was the second on the Secura bandwagon. Unless you mean prior to split's changed vote; in that case it would be him.

Diamondeye, is that vote count accurate? You don't have Secura voting for Believer.

Afaik I got 2 votes, from you and Secura. I don't think it would get me lynched.

[classical_hero]

I'm not recycling anything. Except your body when I kill you.

ATPG was right. :yes:

Visorslash = Guilty.
Either you are town trying to pretend you are mafia so that you will think the mafia will not target you since you have put a target on your back, or you are actually telling the truth and yo really are guilty either being mafia, or a SK if there is one. I am thinking you are the former, being a townie, but we might have an honest mafia on our table.

[Diamondeye]

Diamondeye, is that vote count accurate? You don't have Secura voting for Believer.

Yes. She didn't vote, as far as I can tell. I just rechecked and I can't find a vote from her.

[Renata]

So, TheLastDays. All those ellipses trailing off everywhere. Scum tell, or TLD tell?

Edit: Post 249, DE.

[TheLastDays]

Ellipses? :huh:

[robbiecon]

I just think Visorslash is wearing the crazy hat, and a sign saying "lynch me, lynch me", just so he can save someone else's skin.

[TheLastDays]

...just so he can save someone else's skin.

Mine? Awww, Visor, that's so nice of you :)

[Renata]

Ellipses? :huh:

Like this.


Well I have a good gut feeling... You don't have to trust me but be ready for my "I told you so"s later...

[TheLastDays]

Oh that's just TLD tell... I mean, after all this is my first townie role :P and as I try to make my way to the ordinary world, I will learn to survive

The whole "JHT's guilty story" was a bit unlucky, I admit, but tbh there were about 5 people with 2 votes when DE posted that "tally so far" on Day 1 and of those (without really looking at posts and such) I was drawn to JHT the most... I'm sorry for it but it's not my fault alone... at least some blame is with those that jump onto such a stupid wagon...

I won't do it again though, promise... Hey I thought about where to vote on D2 so much that I forgot to vote over it...

[Renata]

Any particular reason you breadcrumbed just there?

[TheLastDays]

If by "breadcrumbed" you mean the lyrics then no, I'm not Simon Le Bon, I just like the song...

[Secura]

Either you are town trying to pretend you are mafia so that you will think the mafia will not target you since you have put a target on your back

I believe that this is called "pulling a Spartan".

[johnhughthom]

Oh that's just TLD tell... I mean, after all this is my first townie role :P and as I try to make my way to the ordinary world, I will learn to survive

The whole "JHT's guilty story" was a bit unlucky, I admit, but tbh there were about 5 people with 2 votes when DE posted that "tally so far" on Day 1 and of those (without really looking at posts and such) I was drawn to JHT the most... I'm sorry for it but it's not my fault alone... at least some blame is with those that jump onto such a stupid wagon...

I won't do it again though, promise... Hey I thought about where to vote on D2 so much that I forgot to vote over it...

:shrug:

What is there to say to that?

[Diamondeye]

Music Mafia
End of Night two...

After the heated debate of the day and the succesful apprehension and execution of a killer, the Artists felt as if they could relax a bit. Most of them, any way. B_Ray however never let down his guard; He knew there were people out there, just waiting for their chance to get rid of him. Luckily, he had a plan for even the worst of cases - a record that would point his finger from beyond the grave at whoever dared attack him. He spun around in a shock as he heard a light voice behind him, "I think it's time you got off the airwaves, 'bro'".
He looked down at the stranger and laughed. "Really, and how would you do that? Think you can handle this?"
It was true; B_ray was a lean and fit grown man, towering above the attacker.
"Actually, yes!"
B_Ray collapsed in spasms as a horrible sound crashed against him. Hemorrhaging, he tried to reach his shelf of accusing records, but his strength failed him before he could find the right one; they all crashed around him as his spasms finally gave away to a numb silence.

B_Ray was Tupac Shakur!
http://i53.tinypic.com/2z66ooy.jpg
He was of good popularity and neutral favor with the DJ!

Players Alive(13):
TheLastDays
Renata
Visorslash
Romanic
AskThePizzaGuy
Robbiecon
Csargo
Secura
Chaotix
Classical_Hero
Spl1tPersonality
Captain Blackadder
Believer

It is now Day Three!
Night falls in roughly 24 hours; Voting closes in exactly 23 hours and 26 minutes.
Also, I miscounted last day's vote, as Renata has pointed out. Luckily, it was not decisive for the lynch. Nevertheless, I apologize :bow:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Robbiecon

You been messing with my Secura. That makes me feel insecura.

[TheLastDays]

I think I do to. So you don't mind if I get you killed next night, and kill B_Ray tonight to fool the town?

Explain this without using the word "frame"

[Visor]

I did it.

[TheLastDays]

Now pretend you're town and don't want to die

[Visor]

It was fun killing seon.

[Renata]

Well, I'm obviously not the mafia. I have no sense of humor.

[johnhughthom]

Well, I'm obviously not the mafia. I have no sense of humor.

Don't be so hard on yourself. You made me laugh loads in Animus.

[Renata]

:cry:

[Splitpersonality]

Vote: Chaotix

You're very quiet.

[B-Wing]

"A coward dies a thousand times, a soldier dies but once."
— Tupac Shakur

*pours out some aether in memory of himself*

[Visor]

Vote: Visorslash I did tell you I'm scum. TheLastDays will die next. ;)

[Csargo]

Your user title is appropriate.

Vote:Chaotix

[Csargo]

On second thought unvote, Vote: Captain Blackadder

[Captain Blackadder]

Vote Split

Seems to be going after a fairly easy target. He hasn't tuned up yet so I suspect by tomorrow he shall be wogged. There is no need to lynch him and a vote on him is a waste and him being lynched is a waste for town. If he returns then sure lynch him but at this point it is not needed.

[Csargo]

*head explodes*

[Splitpersonality]

Making one vote on someone is equal to lynching them?

I'm just putting pressure on him.

[Visor]

*grumbles about not being lynched even thoug admitted to scum*

LYNCH ME!

[Captain Blackadder]

*grumbles about not being lynched even thoug admitted to scum*

LYNCH ME!

Do you think that DiamondEye would put a joker in the game everyone?

[Visor]

I said I was scum, not a joker.

[Csargo]

Why do you want to be lynched so badly?

[Splitpersonality]

I see two options.

His flourish are to get himself lynched, or to die by the town's hand.

Or he's mafia, and his flourish is to be completely open with us about his intentions. :laugh4:

[Visor]

His flourish are to get himself lynched, or to die by the town's hand.
Nope.


Or he's mafia, and his flourish is to be completely open with us about his intentions.
Yep.


Why do you want to be lynched so badly?

I'm surprised I'm not being lynched.

[Csargo]

that's not an answer

[Visor]

It's my answer.

[Csargo]

alright then

[classical_hero]

Well, I'm obviously not the mafia. I have no sense of humor.
That made me laugh, so perhaps you do. ;)

I hate the smilie code here, since it does not use the general method.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Classical Hero

For hating the smiley code.

[Visor]

Need to bold that Pizza.

Since no-one believes me:

Unvote; Vote: Renata

[Askthepizzaguy]

Jokes aside, I do want to hear reasons for you voting for Renata. You know me by now, I'll all about the WIFOM and the jokes, but you also have to be a good townie and do the good townie thing in between, or I vote you off to reduce my headache.

[Visor]

I'm not going to be a good townie, because I'm scum.


For hating the smiley code.

I'm sure that's a valid reason.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm not going to be a good townie, because I'm scum.



I'm sure that's a valid reason.

Nope!

Unvote, vote: Visorslash

I'm serious. I'm willing to lynch you as townie if you won't even try to be serious occasionally. There's a time for jokes, which is like 90% of the time, and a time to be a good teammate and try.

It's better to lynch you now if you won't try than later when we have a better chance of hitting scum randomly.

[Visor]

Who says I am not trying? I've got my bait set, and my lines ready. I've got info I need.

[Diamondeye]

Do you think that DiamondEye would put a joker in the game everyone?

No.

[TheLastDays]

vote: Visorslash

You are either scum or not helpful as town...

[Visor]

:laugh4: And voting people off Day 1 because you have a 'gut' feeling is? I am helpful as town. ;)

Unvote; Vote: TheLastDays

Seems I hit a nerve ATPG? Your "reasoned" vote on Classical Hero, was the same as my "reasoned" vote on Renata, yet you demand me to provide reasoning, yet you provide none? Why?

When have I ever "not tried" in a game ATPG? I join a game, I will play it the way I will. I always try. Even when you cannot see it.

[TheLastDays]

As you yourself have stated there is no "strong suspects" on Day 1, at least to my skill and experience level there is none so all I can go with on Day 1 is my gut feeling, and with trying to provoke reactions.

[Visor]

Gut feeling based on what? They must be based on something.

Provoke reactions? I like that. And I got the reaction that suggests you are scum to me. So off you go! ;)

[TheLastDays]

Fair enough, you are wrong though but just to understand this, are you still claiming to be Mafia or are you saying you're town now? It confuses me a bit...

and no, gut feelings don't have to be based on anything... if they are they're not gut feelings but a case...

[Visor]

I was never mafia. :P I was joking around to get reactions.

Gut feelings are usually based on something. Otherwise it is a random vote. You feel that you are making a mistake letting someone live, when they promise they will repay you, etc....

[TheLastDays]

Well of course something causes the gut feeling but the nature of the gut feeling is such that you sometimes don't know what caused it ;)

[Visor]

Hmm. Sometimes. But in a game like this, I don't believe it.

[TheLastDays]

It's your personal right to not believe me

[Visor]

I try not to believe lies. ;)

[Csargo]

While I applaud your effort Visor claiming to be mafia is bad townie behavior and is not helpful. The reactions you get from doing so are from annoyance and are unlikely to tell you anything. My feelings on the subject and I could always be wrong. What did the reactions you got lead you to believe?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Somebody in this equation seems nervous to me. There's an awful lot of talking and reaction to very little pressure.

[Visor]

There's an awful lot of talking

I always talk a lot.


reaction to very little pressure.
I always react to a vote against me. Though I'd like your thoughts on my post about you.


What did the reactions you got lead you to believe?

It garnered me some information. Namely Renata doesn't have a sense of humour. :P (That's a joke btw. I'm building up cases in my mind.)

[Csargo]

Somebody in this equation seems nervous to me. There's an awful lot of talking and reaction to very little pressure.

Visor seems to be.

[Visor]

Please explain nervous in this situation?

[Romanic]

vote: Visorslash

[Visor]

We're heading to lynchville here folks! :D

[Csargo]

I hear it's a lovely place. Great weather this time of year.

I'm still not sure if this was your goal or not, so I'll keep my vote on CB.

[classical_hero]

It is a good thing that the "lyrical wordsmith" was lynched. Plus it gets me a chance to post this video. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QOya9-lwQk

vote:Visorlash He is certainly not acting helpful for the town.

[Askthepizzaguy]

:laugh4: I :heart: Weird Al.

[Visor]

Ah well. Probably should role reveal.

[Visor]

You are about to sucessfully lynch: ...

...

...

A DETECTIVE!

(I say A, as I believe there are two.)

Proof: Secura and ATPG are both of Good favour.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ah well. Probably should role reveal.

I'm Enya, and you are?


Edit: That's not proof. Mafia will know who is in good favor.

Also, big thumbs down for early scan of Pizza even if you are a detective, and another thumbs down for self-voting constantly as detective.

Nay-nay to you, Visor. Nay-nay. For this you must suffer!

[Visor]

Some guy from Radiohead. A detective. Or the detective. I believe there are two.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Some guy from Radiohead. A detective. Or the detective. I believe there are two.

I have a confession to make, I hate detectives, especially ones that scan me. You must go squish now.

[Splitpersonality]

Some guy?

Specific :v

[Visor]

Just saying.

I scanned you two because your actions.

I am Thom Yorke of Radiohead.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Just saying.

I scanned you two because your actions.

I :heart: You Secura, I knew you were innocent this entire time because I used the Scwartz. I don't need no fancy detective work to feel the color of your energy. It's amber; amber is the color of your energy.

Now we shall be promptly murdered. Hold my hand, and let us face death together. But first we must punish the one who won't just take us at our word that we're good people, and must peek under our skirts.

[Visor]

Pardon me for being paranoid.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pardon me for being paranoid.

Join the club. Remember the Campground, and never forget. I still have my box of ponies and fairy dust, smeared with lipstick.

Everyone knows I'm mafia, except when I am.

[Visor]

So either you guys lynch the (or a) detective and you waste a lynch, or you lynch some unknown, and I get killed tonight. (Unless we have a doctor).

[Askthepizzaguy]

So either you guys lynch the (or a) detective and you waste a lynch, or you lynch some unknown, and I get killed tonight. (Unless we have a doctor).

No, I don't automatically spare players who claim detective. Over half the time, it's a bogus claim.

You are either detective (30%) some other role (10%) or mafia (60%). You could even be a mafia detective, using his detective powers to "clear" people as his alibi.

I say you must die anyway, because I'm unpredictable like that and I also don't like being fooled by fake claims.

[Visor]

You could even be a mafia detective, using his detective powers to "clear" people as his alibi.


Huh?


I say you must die anyway, because I'm unpredictable like that and I also don't like being fooled by fake claims.

What about if you are fooled by a true claim?

Unvote; Vote Visorslash

Let's get this over with then.

[Askthepizzaguy]

What about if you are fooled by a true claim?

Visorslash learns how not to play as detective. :laugh4: Good in the long run. Makes you a better player.

You're quite promising, but it's not like there's no room for improvement.

[Visor]

Also, ATPG, my scan doesn't clear you two in any way. You could both have bad popularity. You only need to be bad on one. I'm just saying that you are both good favour with Diamondeye. If the other detective (if he/she isn't dead yet), who I believe can scan for popularity, could scan those two, so we know whether they are possible mafia, would be good.

Well done folks. I assume my acting as mafia strategy and joking around is what got me lynched? I hope you haven't killed the other detective yet. (If there is one). There are a lot more players who are bad for the town than me... reminds me of the Chamber.

[johnhughthom]

Why would mafia need a detective ability to clear people Pizza? What an odd thing to say. Nearly as odd as Visorslash thinking there would be two detectives, I wonder was that edit to add the (If there is one)... I suppose the mafia may not know each other, why would you think there are two detectives Visorslash?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Also, ATPG, my scan doesn't clear you two in any way. You could both have bad popularity. You only need to be bad on one. I'm just saying that you are both good favour with Diamondeye. If the other detective (if he/she isn't dead yet), who I believe can scan for popularity, could scan those two, so we know whether they are possible mafia, would be good.

It does clear us as soon as the scum with bad popularity dies.


Well done folks. I assume my acting as mafia strategy and joking around is what got me lynched? I hope you haven't killed the other detective yet. (If there is one). There are a lot more players who are bad for the town than me... reminds me of the Chamber.

Too many self-votes means that you're not putting your vote on actual suspects. That implies a tactic wherein you have a special role or goal which doesn't help the rest of us. Case in point, my own failed flourish is a purely selfish thing that wasn't helping matters.

Unfortunately, maybe it means you had a good special role. You can't act too out of character or be unable to blend in as a good townie when you've got a special role, you'll attract attention and then be forced to claim and then it's no good anyway.

I can't tell you how many special roles I've mistaken for mafia. People act nervous when they get those for some reason.

[Visor]

Well done folks. I assume my acting as mafia strategy and joking around is what got me lynched? I hope you haven't killed the other detective yet. (If there is one). There are a lot more players who are bad for the town than me... reminds me of the Chamber.

That was my edit.

I think there is two detectives, because I can scan players, but I only find out their favour. I assume the other guy (again, if there is one) can only find out their popularity.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why would mafia need a detective ability to clear people Pizza?

Serial killer.

Two detectives also makes sense for the Good/Bad popularity and the favor with the DJ. As Visor points out, being cleared of one doesn't clear of the other. It's not proof until that scum is dead.

[Visor]

I hate dying early. Good luck to the town, I don't see a rescue bandwagon coming my way. One day I shall be scum and you'll all be right. ;)

[Askthepizzaguy]

I hate dying early. Good luck to the town, I don't see a rescue bandwagon coming my way. One day I shall be scum and you'll all be right. ;)

Only one? I think I can do better than that.

[Visor]

Well I've never got a scum role yet. So everyone who has ever suspected I am guilty has been wrong.

BTW, I am good Popularity and Bad favour. So town.

[johnhughthom]

Well I've never got a scum role yet. So everyone who has ever suspected I am guilty has been wrong.

It's all I ever seem to get these days, next one I get we'll swap.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh gawd. I'm going to regret this.

Unvote, vote: Classical Hero


I just wanted to make you suffer a little bit for scanning me. Pizza no like. Bad medicine.

[Visor]

@ jht

Sounds fine. I bet I go unnoticed. :D

[Askthepizzaguy]

Csargo tickles my funny banana. I think he should die shortly.

[Visor]

Unvote; Vote: Csargo

*Shrugs*

[Captain Blackadder]

No.

Thank you glad to hear it nothing annoys me more then a joker in a game. So if Visor isn't a joker what can explain his behaviour unless he is just doing a fluffy.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Thank you glad to hear it nothing annoys me more then a joker in a game. So if Visor isn't a joker what can explain his behaviour unless he is just doing a fluffy.

Is that like a new dance craze?

[Believer]

Vote: Visorslash

I come back to 4 pages of banter which helps no one and you're to blame. Shush.

[Renata]

Rules clarification for those who seem to need it:

Popularity determines victory condition. By inference, good equals town, bad equals mafia (good goal is to defeat them all), and neutral equals non-town like Autolycus.
Favor determines secondary goal only. Pizza and Secura are reported as in good favor; if true that means that IF they are also good popularity (town), they have the secondary goal to survive. Bad and neutral favor players presumably have different secondary goals.

[TheLastDays]

Unvote

Thanks everyone for participating in this little bandwagon, now listen up, town...

Visor claimed he would be killing B_Ray, B_Ray died, I don't think it was Visor, I think someone is trying to frame him the WIFOM way. Since I had a good reputation of going against Visor I was a good candidate to start that wagon and hope some scum might join it, glad that their frame worked out...

Who jumped the Visor-wagon after me?

I think we should take a good look at Romanic and classical now...

vote: classical_hero

[Renata]

vote: classical hero

Let's see what happens.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why him and not Csargo?

Oh fortune! My bussing of my partner Classical_Hero has turned into a quagmire. Solution: Invade a third country.

[TheLastDays]

But why Csargo?

[Askthepizzaguy]

But why Csargo?

I saw him eating a spicy meat-a-ball.

[TheLastDays]

lol I'll stay on classical then, for now, if you don't mind ;)

Anyone got a tally? This is getting very confusing...

[Askthepizzaguy]

Openly eating Italian-style food is proof of scum. If someone were to have that as their avatar, you'd know they were greasy gangsters. I'll be on the lookout for such suspicious activity.

[Secura]

I was never mafia. :P I was joking around to get reactions.

I find it peculiar that you would vote for me on the basis of my own 'joking around to get reactions', and then do just that yourself?


A DETECTIVE!

Proof: Secura and ATPG are both of Good favour.

Why would you take such a risk as a detective? And reveal your results too, since it's like you're condemning others to the sword as well as yourself.

You're supposedly an important role, yet you've drawn heaps of attention to yourself by masquerading as mafia and have been forced to reveal your hand... only the mafia has gained anything from this, particularly as a DJ favour scan doesn't allude to one's alignment.


I :heart: You Secura, I knew you were innocent this entire time...

That and you know how I play... :P


Pardon me for being paranoid.

You should be paranoid; your actions were baffling, to be perfectly honest.


Well done folks. I assume my acting as mafia strategy and joking around is what got me lynched? I hope you haven't killed the other detective yet. (If there is one). There are a lot more players who are bad for the town than me... reminds me of the Chamber.

It's a terrible strategy and it doesn't really give the town much room to act; this could be a ruse to confuse us and leave you alone, which is a decent tactic to try as mafia, particularly when you were under some pressure to begin with. Ergo, we should lynch you to be on the safe side.

However, it could all be a legitimate, if extremely foolish, townie gambit... in that sense, you've been revealed and the mafia will target you, which means that the town is losing a power role. This isn't like my own efforts to drum up conversation and gauge reactions, since I'm vanilla and completely useless in the grand scheme of things.

Really, we're damned if we do lynch you, damned if we don't.

[Renata]

Damned if we don't only if he is in fact mafia. If he's town, he might not even be killed at night. Favor is not alignment, and he only detects favor. While it's likely there is some use for such a role, it doesn't detect mafia. (And, btw, because of that, it is strongly implied that he does have the ability he claims, even if he is mafia, because mafia shouldn't be able to guess that very easily. Now if you and/or ATPG have been running around telling your character names or if you are also mafia, then that's different. Note also that his result doesn't clear either of you of being mafia.)

Damned if we do ... well at the moment I think he's likelier to be town than not, so I'm with you there.

[classical_hero]

Oh gawd. I'm going to regret this.

Unvote, vote: Classical Hero


I just wanted to make you suffer a little bit for scanning me. Pizza no like. Bad medicine.
Who one earth said I was a scanner? I am most definitely not a scanner. I am just an ordinary townie. Where is the love?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40UQDEtRxp8

[Seon]

Wait a minute, classical? CLASSICAL? He must be Suzuki, Git'em boys!

[TheLastDays]

He was saying the part about scanning to Visor, classical...

[classical_hero]

WEll voting for me would want to make me suffer, so that is wher I got the idea from. Perhaps he should have made it a bit more clear.

[Askthepizzaguy]

WEll voting for me would want to make me suffer, so that is wher I got the idea from. Perhaps he should have made it a bit more clear.

Context provides necessary clues; be sure to read the whole thread before responding. It was clear from context what I was saying, since I had been talking to the guy who claimed scanner.

[Renata]

Somebody's skimming?

[classical_hero]

As ATPG knows I am not the best right now. So my mind is not always thinking correctly.

[Secura]

Damned if we do ... well at the moment I think he's likelier to be town than not, so I'm with you there.

This is still a bad outcome no matter what happens; masquerading as mafia as ultimately led to Visor being outed as a town investigative role... even if we call his ability to scan DJ favour as a bit 'meh' (that's open to discussion though, I think it has it's uses), the mafia still have a power role to target over the coming night phases.

If you see no merit in his claimed ability, it's better to follow through on the lynch to be certain that he's not playing a Xanatos Gambit... I think that if we pooled together knowledge of what the goals are for each level of DJ favour, his ability would gain more use.

[robbiecon]

Radiohead = Karma Police = Visorslash's role makes perfect sense.

Vote: Csargo, let's mix things up a bit.

[TheLastDays]

Tally? I know I'm lazy...

[Splitpersonality]

Radiohead = Karma Police = Visorslash's role makes perfect sense.

Vote: Csargo, let's mix things up a bit.

That seems a little... something.... flimsy? My brain isn't working right now.

Does every ability have to coincide with a song title or something then?


I would still like to reiterate my putingt pressure on Chaotix. He does not have finals or anything, he should be here posting, or at least on the org, or at least he should talk to me.

Or maybe I'm just masking my sadness with meaningless lynch votes :cry:

[Secura]

That seems a little... something.... flimsy? My brain isn't working right now.

You took the words straight from my fingertips!

I think that this is a poor vote with no explaination beyond 'mixing things up'; robbiecon, why would you want to do that when there's a handful of people who merit a vote? Visor, TLD, myself, Believer, autolycus... so why vote for Ichi?

I'm going to follow my suspicions in early rounds, as I can vote: robbiecon with a little more confidence. :3

[Renata]

unvote, vote: Robbiecon

[Renata]

Seriously, I would like some more votes on Robbie today.


Vote:Secura, you've a lot of questions to answer. For one, who are you? You've been lying to us so far.


Why lie though Secura, why pretend to be something you're not?

I could easily say we could just Let It Be, but I can also confirm, I am not Paul McCartney.


I think what we've got here is a scum, who implied to be something else, but either her or her buddy accidentally popped the very person she was imitating. You did not explicitly say anything, but let's face it, quoting lyrics, very much seems to be suggesting who you are, a la soft claim. That is why I am voting you, as you lead us down the garden path. Tell us who you really are, and I'll consider lifting my vote.

First off, this whole accusation of Secura is suspiciously, err – easy to follow, by robbiecon standards. I think he takes considerably more care with his posts when he is mafia. Second, the reason is an easy-peasy one for mafia to jump on. Woot, you lied, end of story, must lynch, too bad, so sad. Heck, with evidence of a serial killer in the write-up for any enterprising mafia to notice, maybe he could even think there’s a good chance he was right. (Does Auto’s death have anything to do with the non-resumption of the Secura case by Robbie today?)


I just think Visorslash is wearing the crazy hat, and a sign saying "lynch me, lynch me", just so he can save someone else's skin.

Pray tell, whose? This was during the night.


Radiohead = Karma Police = Visorslash's role makes perfect sense.

Vote: Csargo, let's mix things up a bit.

And of course Visor is no direct danger to the mafia, as a mafioso would presumably be aware. And “let’s mix things up a bit” just feels fake – there’s no mixing going on here: there are a stack of votes on Visor and like 4 on CH at this point. It's a completely meaningless vote with a fake motive.

[TheLastDays]

I still think CH or Romanic need to be pressured...

[Renata]

Show me why, even collecting posts together without commentary would be good.

[TheLastDays]

TIM (This is mafia) therefore trust is something of short supply arround here. Also I will vote:B Ray in accordance to the almighty RNG.


Is Lady Gaga actually a lady? ;)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi7gwX7rjOw


vote:Autolycus His vote on Secura looked not right to me. It might not be much, but it is something to go on this day, since we don't have much to go on.


If only she dressed properly she could be majorly hot after watching that video. It is a shame she tries to be "controversial all the time. She is totally :daisy: in that clip, but I am a
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0


Either you are town trying to pretend you are mafia so that you will think the mafia will not target you since you have put a target on your back, or you are actually telling the truth and yo really are guilty either being mafia, or a SK if there is one. I am thinking you are the former, being a townie, but we might have an honest mafia on our table.


That made me laugh, so perhaps you do. ;)

I hate the smilie code here, since it does not use the general method.


It is a good thing that the "lyrical wordsmith" was lynched. Plus it gets me a chance to post this video. :D

vote:Visorlash He is certainly not acting helpful for the town.


Who one earth said I was a scanner? I am most definitely not a scanner. I am just an ordinary townie. Where is the love?


WEll voting for me would want to make me suffer, so that is wher I got the idea from. Perhaps he should have made it a bit more clear.


As ATPG knows I am not the best right now. So my mind is not always thinking correctly.

Well here are his posts, it's not conclusive, I know but his jumping on the Visor-wagon is what makes me suspect him most. Also after some voted for him he seemed pretty nervous to me but that might be a natural reaction to being voted for. Still...

[robbiecon]

Sistas, Kanye, ain't hating on nobody.

[robbiecon]

Classical is a Black Eyed Pea, or at least implying it from his reference to "Where is The Love".

Also:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYf8ZYn6QLo

[Renata]

Why bother defending yourself with a role claim? You think Diamondeye would make a game where he'd force the mafia into a bad position if everyone else up and decided they all wanted to reveal their roles on day one?

For that matter why are you so interested in people's roles in the first place? This has to be about the fifth time you've commented on it as related to someone or other.

[Secura]

Kanye, ain't hating on nobody.

This is absolutely beautiful, thank you.

Kanye West's popularity has been pretty low since he upstaged Taylor Swift with the whole "I'mma let you finish..." thing, back in Sept '09; with Diamondeye being genre-savvy as he is (he had Gaga down as Neutral popularity, after all), I'd wager that Kanye would either be Neutral or Bad... I am leaning towards the latter, since the guy is such a self-centered, arrogant piece of work. In fact, he's probably Bad/Bad, as he doesn't seem to be up DE's street, particularly given fellow-rapper Eminem's favour with the DJ.

You guys can take this with a pinch of salt, particularly given my own arguments in my defense regarding the Gaga lyrics, but this is just adding more fuel to the funeral pyre for robbiecon, in my opinion.

[Renata]

Yikes, I hate to give you a hard time based on a single post, but if Kanye West is robbie's real role AND listed as bad/bad --- you think he'd really bring it out in public, Secura? That's as bad as his argument against you, maybe worse.

[Secura]

I should clarify that, while posting in a Kanye-esque fashion and linking his videos isn't indicative of robbiecon's guilt or even his identity being Mr West in the first place, as a potential role for this sorta game Kanye's certainly the one that would fit the bill of Bad Popularity.

Given his previous behaviour, particularly his weak accusations against me in the previous round and his flimsy, non-confrontational vote in this round, robbiecon's definitely worth the lynch.


Yikes, I hate to give you a hard time based on a single post, but if Kanye West is robbie's real role AND listed as bad/bad --- you think he'd really bring it out in public, Secura? That's as bad as his argument against you, maybe worse.

I am fully aware that it's flimsy as sole reason for voting for him, but one has to bare in mind that this is based on assumption, interpretation and my own genre-savvyness; the popularity of any musician is open to debate, and the favour comes solely down to how Diamondeye perceives that musician.

While I perceive Kayne's popularity to be low, given the sorta gentleman that he is, I don't doubt that he has scores of fans who would argue otherwise... it's entirely possible that he's Neutral in the context of the game, but he is most definitely not Good.

[Seon]

I bet one of the mafia is Justin Bieber mutter mutter...

[Secura]

I bet one of the mafia is Justin Bieber mutter mutter...

It could be Rebecca Black!

[johnhughthom]

Clearly the record companies looked at my music themed games and decided to engineer some ready made mafioso for future games. Black and Bieber, shudder.

[Renata]

Seriously, though, I expect the mafia to be something more along the lines of some obscure dance band for the bad/good option and, like, William-Shatner-as-a-singer for the bad/bad. Justin Bieber, unfortunately, I would not expect to fall below neutral. Too many fans.

[Secura]

Justin Bieber, unfortunately, I would not expect to fall below neutral. Too many fans.

Ayup, he's another Marmite singer, so I'd expect him to be neutral too.

[Seon]

I believe the official rule stated that all townies were "good" in at least ONE of the alignment axis, and mafia were "bad" in at least ONE of the alignment axis.

If Justin is neutral/bad, he can still totally be a mafia.

[Renata]

You never read your PM, did you?

[Seon]

Hey, I am just going by the OP here.

[Renata]

Bad Seon. :)

[Renata]

Note: Popularity describes your popularity with the listeners. This determines your Victory Condition.
Favor describes your popularity with the DJ, Diamondeye, This, in combination with your Popularity, determines your Secondary Goal. It has no influence on your Victory Condition.

From our lord and master.

[TheLastDays]

I'm all for David Hasselhoff as Mafia, I sure would like to lynch him...

[Renata]

Oh, that would be awesome-sauce.

[Visor]

So.... Is there a rescue bandwagon yet?

[Chaotix]

So.... Is there a rescue bandwagon yet?

Vote: robbiecon

BANDWAGON TO THE RESCUE

Playing catch-up now.

[Romanic]

unvote;

[Romanic]

If Diamondeye sticks to the deadline, the final tally should be:

2 robibecon (Secura, Renata)
2 Visorslash (Romanic, Believer)
2 classical_hero (ATPG, TheLastDays)
2 Csargo (Visorslash, robbiecon)
1 Chaotix (Split)
1 Captain Blackadder (Csargo)
1 Split (Captain Blackadder)
---
1 not voting (Chaotix)

If not, then robbiecon is ahead because of Chaotix's vote.

[Diamondeye]

Music Mafia
End of day three

The third fateful day in the studio of Radio Gameroom was also filled with discussion and debate, racing back and forth. One of the Artists, Visorslash, said that he was guilty. Then, when other people said he was guilty, he said he wasn't and got all upset at them. "You just don't understand! You don't get my meaning!" His voice was squeely and light, and he trembled and fell to his knees in what looked like nerveous spasms. "Man, you must be on some serious drugs," someone suggested. Visorslash got even more upset and depressed. "No! I'm not! Why is everyone doesn't understand?"

Someone shrugged and pushed him over the ledge.

Visorslash was Thom Yorke of Radiohead
http://i53.tinypic.com/s142dt.jpg
He was of good popularity and of bad favor with the DJ!

Tally:
Visorslash: 3 (Romanic, Classical_Hero, Believer)
Robbiecon: 2 (Renata, Secura)
Classical_Hero: 2 (AskThePizzaGuy, TheLastDays)
Csargo: 2 (Visorslash, Robbiecon)
Chaotix: 1 (Spl1tp3r50nal1ty)
Captain Blackadder: 1 (Csargo)
Spl1tp3r50nal1ty: 1 (Captain Blackadder)

Players Alive (12):
TheLastDays
Renata
Romanic
AskThePizzaGuy
Robbiecon
Csargo
Secura
Chaotix
Classical_Hero
Spl1tPersonality
Captain Blackadder
Believer

It is now night three!
Dawn breaks in about 22 hours. Please PM your orders within 22 hours and 17 minutes.
Apologies for the slightly delayed update; Voting ended almost two hours ago, at 10:00 PM CEST.
And slandering Rebecca Black is WoG-punishable :stare: :laugh4:

[Chaotix]

What a creep.

[Romanic]

I agree that Visorslash's play was foolish if he's really a scanner, though a favor scanner doesn't look very strong since we can't find mafiosi with it, unless there's a twist that I'm not aware of.

Self voting is one of the worse play in mafia, and it's useful only in rare occasions. No matter what your role is, it's a manipulative strategy, unfit for Town play. Visor, if you're Town, your role is to find the scums, not clown around and give false information to your teammates who are looking for scum. Feels like I'm repeating myself from the TWC game, which you should have read, being the host, but I guess ATPG's self votes put the wrong ideas in your head (ATPG is a bad mafia player in some ways :smug2:)

[Romanic]

Crosspost with the writeup, and it seems I missed classical_hero's vote in my tally. Good thing DE is alert. Well... or not, since Visor was indeed Town.

[TheLastDays]

Ok can we lynch CH next?

[Secura]

Ok can we lynch CH next?

No, we should lynch robbiecon next.

[Visor]

I agree that Visorslash's play was foolish if he's really a scanner, though a favor scanner doesn't look very strong since we can't find mafiosi with it, unless there's a twist that I'm not aware of.

Self voting is one of the worse play in mafia, and it's useful only in rare occasions. No matter what your role is, it's a manipulative strategy, unfit for Town play. Visor, if you're Town, your role is to find the scums, not clown around and give false information to your teammates who are looking for scum. Feels like I'm repeating myself from the TWC game, which you should have read, being the host, but I guess ATPG's self votes put the wrong ideas in your head (ATPG is a bad mafia player in some ways :smug2:)

Seems ATPG get's a free pass to act that way, and I don't. Why can't I have fun? When did I give false information?


vote:Visorlash He is certainly not acting helpful for the town.

Pray tell how? What are you doing that is any better?

Same with the other bandwagoners. You included here. :P No reasoning, just: "You are not acting helpful"? Neither are meaningless votes. I had to reveal as the scanner otherwise I would be lynched. And I was still lynched. I think the bandwagon on me was foolish. Maybe I should play like JHT and say absolutely nothing, I would last longer? Or I would lynched for not contributing?

[Visor]

I find it peculiar that you would vote for me on the basis of my own 'joking around to get reactions', and then do just that yourself?

Cause I'm awesome.


Why would you take such a risk as a detective?

Cause I was being bandwagoned. If I got the town to focus on someone else, the town would kill another suspect, I would be nightkilled, and I wouldn't be a suspect or could be accused of lying, as I would be dead.


And reveal your results too, since it's like you're condemning others to the sword as well as yourself.

What...? Everyone already knew you were good favour IIRC (I think you stated it), I wanted confimation. I had to prove that I was the detective so you wouldn't waste a lynch on me.


You're supposedly an important role,

Not really.


yet you've drawn heaps of attention to yourself by masquerading as mafia

Masquerading as a clown.


have been forced to reveal your hand... only the mafia has gained anything from this, particularly as a DJ favour scan doesn't allude to one's alignment.

Because I was bandwaggoned upon.


You should be paranoid; your actions were baffling, to be perfectly honest.
To others, not to myself.

[TheLastDays]

Then please tell me, Visor, what benefit exactly did the town have from your whole "I'm Mafia, lynch me, lynch me, lynche me"-parade? How did it help?

[Visor]

It wasn't designed to help the town as a whole. It was designed to help me build cases.

[Askthepizzaguy]

MOVING ON.... :laugh4:

[TheLastDays]

So, what cases did it help you build? Tell us so that we might at least have something coming from it, if it actually helped identify scum I'd say it was worth losing a power role with a rather "meh" power...

[Captain Blackadder]

In that case pray tell what cases have arisen as a result of this tell us whom you find suspicious and why based on their response to your I'm Mafia lynch me?

[Askthepizzaguy]

In that case, would you please explain what cases you..... oh.

[Visor]

Suffer for lynching me. :D

[Visor]

Seriously though, the only person I suspect is Believer and Classical hero isn't looking so good either. I have reservations about others, but I suspect I shall lose interest in this as I'm now dead.

[Secura]

And I was still lynched. I think the bandwagon on me was foolish.

This is completely natural, the scorned townie is always inclined to believe that the lynch against them is foolish; however, I have to wonder why your detractors didn't take heed of the words of Pizza, Renata et al, since their votes were much better placed and had decent reasoning to boot.


Maybe I should play like JHT and say absolutely nothing, I would last longer? Or I would lynched for not contributing?

Everyone plays differently, really; I may die a fair bit in the early stages of games, but I'd rather be killed for contributing rather than slip by to the end of a game with minimal activity. You should find the approach that suits your style best and then make it your own... don't lose faith! :3


Cause I was being bandwagoned. If I got the town to focus on someone else, the town would kill another suspect, I would be nightkilled, and I wouldn't be a suspect or could be accused of lying, as I would be dead.

You were being bandwagoned because you were making the mafia claims; prior to that, you had been under some pressure but nothing that couldn't be shrugged off. All it served to do was draw more attention to you and lead to your lynch... bad times!


What...? Everyone already knew you were good favour IIRC (I think you stated it), I wanted confimation. I had to prove that I was the detective so you wouldn't waste a lynch on me.

Actually, nobody knew for certain, because my own claims are just that... claims, until proven otherwise; the scan result of good favour doesn't absolve Pizza or myself of being mafia, but it does remove some of the ambiguity of our roles and it doesn't seem to have done much for the town.


To others, not to myself.

It wasn't designed to help the town as a whole. It was designed to help me build cases.

Successfully playing as a townie requires teamwork; separating the truth from deceit, lynching the mafia... the fact that you were confusing your teammates and working to help yourself rather than the general town goal is rather gah-worthy.

This is my first game with you, but you seem to be a fairly good player, you should try bouncing your ideas off others rather than striking out on your own. :<


Seriously though, the only person I suspect is Believer and Classical hero isn't looking so good either. I have reservations about others, but I suspect I shall lose interest in this as I'm now dead.

So, you don't think robbiecon's a viable option? Also, don't lose interest, you've contributed fine up to now! :3

[Visor]

So, you don't think robbiecon's a viable option?

No I don't.


This is completely natural, the scorned townie is always inclined to believe that the lynch against them is foolish;

Yes, but this one was... more foolish than usual. :D (IMO of course)


Also, don't lose interest

I find it hard not to, unless it's a game like ATPG's where it's very interesting. I'm not saying this game is uninteresting, not by a long shot. I did enjoy it while alive. :P But, I lasted a fair while in ATPG's game, compared to this one. I'm not trying to say your game is inferior in any way, just saying that I have more of a vested interest in a game that I stay alive for longer. (Buffy IV for example probably. And the Chamber.) Probably a stupid comment to make. (*facepalm*) Thanks for pointing this out Secura.


You were being bandwagoned because you were making the mafia claims;

Why would a mafia claim mafia?

[Secura]

No I don't.

Alright, any reason why? Since Believer's already on my radar, is there any reason that you particularly suspect classical_hero?


Why would a mafia claim mafia?

It's been done several times before, myself included; it's hella risky, but then that's the Xanatos Gambit for you.

[Visor]

It's been done several times before, myself included; it's hella risky, but then that's the Xanatos Gambit for you.
I wouldn't consider it myself. I see no gain from doing it. Joking around, yeah, but not seriously. Xanatos Gambit?


Alright, any reason why?

Yeah. Lemme go through his posts.


Since Believer's already on my radar, is there any reason that you particularly suspect classical_hero?
Gotta go through to remind myself.

[Visor]

So much for Walk of Life for johnhughthom.

I got nothing.


Ok, we already got the idea that you're Lady Gaga. The real question is, would she be evil? Certainly she'd be in the DJ's favour, I imagine.

From the Lady Gaga lyrics Secura was spewing, a reasonable conclusion to make. The last statement seems reasonable as well.


Is Believer one of The Killers?

In response to Believer posting lyrics. Again, nothing bad here.


Vote:Secura, you've a lot of questions to answer. For one, who are you? You've been lying to us so far.

His hypothesis proven wrong, he believes that the he was lied to. Again, a reasonable conclusion to make in my mind.


Roger Daltrey, I presume?
I can't remember.


Why lie though Secura, why pretend to be something you're not?

I could easily say we could just Let It Be, but I can also confirm, I am not Paul McCartney.
Honestly, nothing strikes me as out of place.


I think what we've got here is a scum, who implied to be something else, but either her or her buddy accidentally popped the very person she was imitating. You did not explicitly say anything, but let's face it, quoting lyrics, very much seems to be suggesting who you are, a la soft claim. That is why I am voting you, as you lead us down the garden path. Tell us who you really are, and I'll consider lifting my vote.

Pushes Secura again. Still believes that lyrics were a soft claim. (I do believe you were leading us down a garden path Secura.)


Let's face it, if I had been quoting Johnny Cash lyrics, for example, obviously that would be the person you'd believe I am.

I'd probably have been throwing hints as to who I am, except for the fact I only know one song by him.

Pushes lyrics as a soft claim.


I just think Visorslash is wearing the crazy hat, and a sign saying "lynch me, lynch me", just so he can save someone else's skin.

Thinks Visor is scum, trying to save someone else. Was wrong, but not a bad conclusion.


Radiohead = Karma Police = Visorslash's role makes perfect sense.

Vote: Csargo, let's mix things up a bit.

Believes Visor's detective claim due to person. Votes the same person as Visor.

[Visor]

Honestly, he's done nothing to make me think he's scum. I think he's town.

[johnhughthom]

Maybe I should play like JHT and say absolutely nothing, I would last longer? Or I would lynched for not contributing?

There's a fine line between saying absolutely nothing and saying enough to survive. Are you good enough?


You're quite promising, but it's not like there's no room for improvement.

Pizza doesn't think so.

[Visor]

There's a fine line between saying absolutely nothing and saying enough to survive. Are you good enough?
Probably not. (Sorry for saying that though. I hear people saying that lurkers should be lynched, and you post just enough to stay alive. :P) Staying quiet isn't the way I am in something like this.


Pizza doesn't think so.

???

[TheLastDays]

Well Pizza claimed to be Mafia all the time during the Campground and, while he wasn't Mafia, none of the town knew this, still he wan't lynched so as Mafia he would've gotten by with it very well...

And it would have been a hell of a win if he were Mafia, I bet he still grudges that he wasn't ^^

So, it does work sometimes or it can work for your favour, even as Mafia

[Visor]

He joked around that he was mafia. (As did I). Or at least that is how I see it anyway.

ATPG votes himself a lot though.

[TheLastDays]

Exactly, he did what you did and got away with it, so if he had been Mafia it would have worked... it's a risky strategy of course but it can work obviously...

[Visor]

I took it too far. :P

Though claiming scum as a joke isn't too risky. Even if scum. I did it in atpg's game with diamond eye a couple of times.

[TheLastDays]

Well the thing is, I don't think it's ever worth doing as town... the chance the townies lynch you (and waste a lynch on you) just "to be safe" is too high.

[Secura]

robbiecon's playing a largely conservative game; he's posting short questions and statements to maintain the appearance of involvement and he's remaining non-confrontational by keeping his accusations to a minimum unless there's already prior reasoning for a bandwagon vote (Day Two), otherwise throwing his vote on pointless targets (Day Three).

It actually reminds me of what I call the 'consummate townie', as I noted in Pizza's Murder Manor III game (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?127977-Murder-Manor-III-Game-thread-Concluded&p=2505460&viewfull=1#post2505460) when YLC largely stayed under everyone's radar by playing in this manner.

As for being led down the garden path, all I can say now is get over it; my detractors inferred something from my post and were wrong in doing so. I had no intentions to mislead and I'll be reiterating that when my role is revealed when I die or when the game ends.

[Chaotix]

Well the thing is, I don't think it's ever worth doing as town... the chance the townies lynch you (and waste a lynch on you) just "to be safe" is too high.

To be sure, nobody wants to be lynched as scum because they "jokingly" claimed to be scum in-thread.

But at the same time, you act too much like how a townie 'should' act, and people start to get suspicious of you for that- basically what Secura's case on robbiecon is right now.

Currently, no matter what my role is, I tend to say whatever I want in-thread regardless of possible town or mafia implications. If I act like I don't care about the outcome of the game, I find it helps to make me a bit more unreadable.

[TheLastDays]

Well but I do care what the outcome of the game is, regardless of me being Mafia or Town...

but as Andres demanded in ATPGs case in the Campground, most of the time people will lynch the guy claiming he's Mafia just because it would hurt too much if he was actually Mafia and the town lets him live...

[Diamondeye]

MOVING ON.... :laugh4:

This. I'm glad lots of people are willing to teach Visorslash the game, but I would appreciate not cluttering the thread unless it's relevant for the game. Thank you :bow:

[Believer]

Damned if we did, damned if we didn't. A liar was as good as anything.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Damned if we did, damned if we didn't. A liar was as good as anything.

FoS: Believer

Kicking the man when he's down, dead, and townie. Totally unnecessary and uncharacteristic of you in particular.

[Visor]

And I wasn't lying. At least to my knowledge.

But you just drew a lot of suspiscion to yourself.

[Diamondeye]

Music Mafia
NIght three ends...

Chaotix was sitting alone, plinging his guitar, his coarse voice the only noise in the otherwise silent studio. He hardly noticed the unknown figure sneaking up on him. Before he knew it, it had struck him over the head with its weapon. He fell prone to the floor.
Chaotic was Eric Clapton!
http://i53.tinypic.com/2ef4085.jpg
He was of good popularity and of neutral favor to the DJ!

Players alive (11):
TheLastDays
Renata
Romanic
AskThePizzaGuy
Robbiecon
Csargo
Secura
Classical_Hero
Spl1tPersonality
Captain Blackadder
Believer


It is now day four!
This day will last until 10 PM CEST the day after tomorrow, because of the delayed writeup.
This means voting will close in roughly 43 hours!

[Captain Blackadder]

You don't like Eric Clapton?

[Romanic]

Neutral favor is generous for Eric Clapton in my opinion. :smug2:

[johnhughthom]

You don't like Eric Clapton?

Don't you have to be over 45 to like him?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Splitpersonality

:mellow:

[Captain Blackadder]

Don't you have to be over 45 to like him?

Don't have to be over 45 to appreciate quality look at that guitar playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OLK_HSyy1U&feature=related

[Csargo]

Vote: Splitpersonality

:mellow:

I thought we had moved past this point.

[Splitpersonality]

Vote: Splitpersonality

:mellow:

Okay.

But why?

[B-Wing]

I love Cream, but Eric Clapton on his own = boring.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Okay.

But why?

Because you're guilty, that's why.

[johnhughthom]

I love Cream, but Eric Clapton on his own = boring.

Tears in Heaven is good, rather a high price to pay for the inspiration to write it though.

[Splitpersonality]

Really?

Okay.

Vote: Splitpersonality

[Askthepizzaguy]

Really?

Okay.

Vote: Splitpersonality

:bow: It has been a pleasure, my divided friend.

[Renata]

Let's not do this again.

[Csargo]

You'd think things would be learned.

[Splitpersonality]

Unvote

In all seriousness.

I'm not guilty. Just boring townie.

[Romanic]

Self voting again. What's wrong with you people? Did I miss the mafia hints topic saying that this is the ultimate strategy?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Unvote

In all seriousness.

I'm not guilty. Just boring townie.

Why do you lie? Lie, right to my face? After all we've been through together?

You make me sad. :bigcry:

[Splitpersonality]

Well what evidence do you have that I'm not town?

[Renata]

You want evidence?

You must be scum.

[johnhughthom]

You want evidence?

You must be scum.

Yep, if he was town he'd just accept the lynch.

[Splitpersonality]

Wouldn't a townie want to know the case against him though?

Maybe I'm just rusty at this game :laugh4:

[Csargo]

Why do you lie? Lie, right to my face? After all we've been through together?

You make me sad. :bigcry:

Don't think I've forgotten you calling me a banana.

[johnhughthom]

Wouldn't a townie want to know the case against him though?

Maybe I'm just rusty at this game :laugh4:

I think the theory is a townie would defend themselves, rather than just ask for evidence of guilt.

[Renata]

Yep, if he was town he'd just accept the lynch.

Heehee.

[Renata]

Seriously, though, how do you defend yourself when you're innocent? I almost never get votes as a townie. I have no idea how to do it. I'd probably look like scummy with scum sauce.

Edit: Actually come to think of it, in a recent game on another site I picked up four votes one day. The first one was OMGUS from a townie I voted for, so that was all right. The second one was scum-bait from someone I was 99% sure was townie, so from my perspective that was :inquisitive:. And then I got three and four back to back from the scum and more or less lost my mind. So scummy with scum sauce is probably accurate.

Robbiecon, why'd you ignore my PM from yesterday? I know you were online. You were even reading the thread.

[johnhughthom]

Seriously, though, how do you defend yourself when you're innocent?

Don't ask me, not bothering works more often than not in my case.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well what evidence do you have that I'm not town?

I can read your p-p-poker face. It says Split is guilty with a side of WHY DID YOU KILL CHAOTIX???

[Csargo]

Vote:CB

[Splitpersonality]

Well okay.

I didn't kill chaotix. Because, well I didn't. I don't really know how to prove this aside from my word.

I'm not a bad musical artist, just someone who has made some bad public appearances as of recently.

[Renata]

You don't say.


OK I need to go to bed, I'm getting punchy.

[Believer]

Vote: Classical Hero