Stainless Steel 6.4 Hotseat - Wrath of the Khan 2

[Mithridate]

Sorry, ignore this

[phonicsmonkey]

Seljuks

By the way, I now have elephants :2thumbsup:

[LooseCannon1]

France up! (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9697)By the way, Chindu the Tyrant and his army have been EXTERMINATED. :smash: :grin3:

[phonicsmonkey]

France up! (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9697)By the way, Chindu the Tyrant and his army have been EXTERMINATED. :smash: :grin3:

doh

how did you get into his fort?

[LooseCannon1]

doh

how did you get into his fort?The simple way :book2:
IMPORTANT: If he has catapults DO NOT rest in a fort, unless you have almost exclusively infantry in your army. Myth

I gots lots of big rock throwing thing-a-ma-jigs:laugh4: and no one said I had to fight the battle. Autoresolve is my friend.:smitten:

[phonicsmonkey]

The simple way :book2: Myth

I gots lots of big rock throwing thing-a-ma-jigs:laugh4: and no one said I had to fight the battle. Autoresolve is my friend.:smitten:

True dat

I have too few spies...can't cover the ground...can't afford to lose whole armies like that or you guys will beat me easily!

[Thanatos Eclipse]

Rome

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9702

[slysnake]

UK up

3142

[phonicsmonkey]

bump

[phonicsmonkey]

Does someone want to sub or should I skip him?

[Nightbringer]

I can sub him later tonight but I need the password.

[phonicsmonkey]

here it is with the pw cleared - somebody sub or skip it to keep the game moving

thanks guys!

[Nightbringer]

byzantines up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9711

[SilverShield]

moors up
http://depositfiles.com/files/tgjz5s2er

also i cant propose any alliance and military access to someone else. whatever is wrong there its a problem so if anyone got a fix for that im all up for that

[Nightbringer]

you probably know this, but just to check, you know you can't if they are allied with anyone you are at war with right.

[phonicsmonkey]

Or if they are at war with one of your allies

[ArcturUs]

Kiev (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9722)

[Nightbringer]

Kwazies up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9723

[SilverShield]

mh had no idea of this alliance thing learned something there. im still at war with kwarz so that likely is the problem then. just got a diplomat in central turkey im curious whos faster my diplomat on his way to kwarz or the mongols in killing off kwarz. tho im rooting for kwarz going hard making another dent on the mongolian military

[Myth]

Well I ain't dead yet! I doubt I'll be able to kill another full stack of Mongolians but perhaps if I sally from a siege defence I'll make something happen.

[Myth]

Denmark. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9726)

[The Celtic Viking]

Fatimids. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9727)

[phonicsmonkey]

bump

[Zim]

Cumans

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9734

[phonicsmonkey]

ok I was hoping cecil would sub again but it looks like he's not available - could someone please sub the cumans so we can keep it moving? the pw should still be clear

[Nightbringer]

I did it, not much to mention, here is the mongol save.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9743

[phonicsmonkey]

Seljuks are up

[phonicsmonkey]

bump!

[LooseCannon1]

France up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9747)

[Thanatos Eclipse]

Rome

3259

[slysnake]

UK 3265

Anyone willing to sell up a region (preferably coastal) in the east so that I will have somewhere to replenish the stacks that I send to fight?

[Rougeman]

3279

[SilverShield]

got a glimpse at the mongol forces there in the middle of no where. looking pretty nasty

moors up
http://depositfiles.com/files/i9k9m3bf0

[phonicsmonkey]

Looking nasty in the middle of nowhere - that pretty much sums up my game so far!

[ArcturUs]

Kiev (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9768)

[Nightbringer]

kwarezmians up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9771

[phonicsmonkey]

myth is out - can someone sub for him if I clear the pw later?

[Myth]

Denmark up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9781)

Two huge mongolian armies, several fullstacks in forts lined up to meet the Cumans near Urgench. Several more stacks in the middle of the K-shah's territories, waiting for the Turks and whoever else is coming from the West. A total of about 10 full stacks, trebuchets included, is what I estimate he has.

[phonicsmonkey]

Any volunteers to sub for Denmark?

[Nightbringer]

I can do it.

[Nightbringer]

fatimids up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9787

[The Celtic Viking]

Sorry, I couldn't do my thing when I got the PM and then I forgot about it. :shame:

[phonicsmonkey]

Sorry, I couldn't do my thing when I got the PM and then I forgot about it. :shame:

No worries buddy it happens to everyone eventually

[Zim]

One long awaited turn up.

Cumans!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9796

[phonicsmonkey]

We don't have a Cuman player. The pw should be clear so anyone can sub - lookin for a volunteer!

[Myth]

Funny thing is, the Cumans have one of the highest chances of actually winning this game. They have a ton of armies and room to expand.

[Nightbringer]

Funny thing is, the Cumans have one of the highest chances of actually winning this game. They have a ton of armies and room to expand.
What? They have a lot of armies, but the east is completely occupied, and they are dealing with the mongols

[Myth]

Dealing with the Mongols rather well actually. Monkey has his armies sitting in a line waiting for the onslaught, but the Cumans can afford to just sit in a trench war, as everyone seems to be allied vs. the Mongols at the moment. Once they've been dealt with, nabbing 10 settlements from a human oponent should not be hard, especially since the ERE, Turks and Egypt are far, far away (the other major contenders IMO)

[Nightbringer]

Dealing with the Mongols rather well actually. Monkey has his armies sitting in a line waiting for the onslaught, but the Cumans can afford to just sit in a trench war, as everyone seems to be allied vs. the Mongols at the moment. Once they've been dealt with, nabbing 10 settlements from a human oponent should not be hard, especially since the ERE, Turks and Egypt are far, far away (the other major contenders IMO)

My main objection is that the land you are advertising as expansion area for them belongs to me. :)

[Zim]

Really subbed or just skipped? If the latter I can take care of it.


We don't have a Cuman player. The pw should be clear so anyone can sub - lookin for a volunteer!

[Myth]

I'll sub them, don't have them skipped.

[phonicsmonkey]

Can anyone do this before the 2nd Jan? If so just go ahead, it's open

[slysnake]

I may have found a player for the Cumans, I will keep you guys informed..

[AsbestosGasMask]

I may have found a player for the Cumans, I will keep you guys informed..

Hi, I would like to join the hotseat as the Cumans. I don't have much hotseat experience, but would like to give it a shot after a friend recommended it. I hope that this is ok with everyone?

[phonicsmonkey]

Welcome to the game, to the Throne Room and to the Org!

please familiarise yourself with the rules and let me know if you have any questions. Feel free to take your turn any time.

[Nightbringer]

Welcome AbestosGasMask!

[phonicsmonkey]

Either we find a new Moorish Sultan or switch them to AI for a while - Ezil is out of this game too I'm assuming as per his post in MoT

[ArcturUs]

Either we find a new Moorish Sultan or switch them to AI for a while - Ezil is out of this game too I'm assuming as per his post in MoT
Yes, I need someone to sub me, perhaps someone from the UAMF :laugh4:

[slysnake]

Yes, I need someone to sub me, perhaps someone from the UAMF :laugh4:

Found a sub yet?

[phonicsmonkey]

Found a sub yet?

We're actually waiting for your mate Asbestos to play the Cuman turn. He is having installation issues which I haven't had a chance to help with. Maybe you it someone else could offer assistance? RL has me beat this week - I have an employee with mental health issues and it's taking up all my work and personal time.

[slysnake]

We're actually waiting for your mate Asbestos to play the Cuman turn. He is having installation issues which I haven't had a chance to help with. Maybe you it someone else could offer assistance? RL has me beat this week - I have an employee with mental health issues and it's taking up all my work and personal time.

I'll see if I can help my mate out asap. Only problem is he lives the other end of England so I'll be describing the SS installation process (which he has already messed up twice) over skype. Should be interesting...T_T

[phonicsmonkey]

About as interesting as trying to do it over pm!

Take it step by step and use this forum (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=652)- his issue appears to be fairly common so you shold be able to get it working with some patience.

I've only known two people ever who dropped a game because they couldn't get the mod working and both were non-English speakers so I couldn't be sure of the issue.

[slysnake]

Phonics, I decided to sub the Cumans in the end, if you are alright with that :)

Mongols up!!

3386

[phonicsmonkey]

Phonics, I decided to sub the Cumans in the end, if you are alright with that :)


That's fine, is he still trying and will he be back to take the next turn?

[slysnake]

That's fine, is he still trying and will he be back to take the next turn?

He should be, if not, I will be happy to continue subbing him until we find a different player if it comes to that decision in the end.

[phonicsmonkey]

Seljuks

[LooseCannon1]

BETRAYAL!!:furious3: The Fatamid Sultan shows his true nature by his secret attacks against the United Anti-Mongol Front. He is now allied with the infidel. While the armies of the Caliph are off defending the world against the terror of the steppes he used the military access given him to attack undefended Seljuk cities. He intends to take over the world while the good people fight off the Horde. Help is requested from any other leaders of the UAMF to destroy this turncoat!!!


OOC: I'll finish the turn and post the save after work. And Zim-you're name's going to the top of my "future butt-kicking in a Hotseat" list:laugh4:

[Rougeman]

BETRAYAL!!:furious3: The Fatamid Sultan shows his true nature by his secret attacks against the United Anti-Mongol Front. He is now allied with the infidel. While the armies of the Caliph are off defending the world against the terror of the steppes he used the military access given him to attack undefended Seljuk cities. He intends to take over the world while the good people fight off the Horde. Help is requested from any other leaders of the UAMF to destroy this turncoat!!!


OOC: I'll finish the turn and post the save after work. And Zim-you're name's going to the top of my "future butt-kicking in a Hotseat" list:laugh4:


the british would like to send forces to help, but it would take some time, since all battle-ready troops are heading to russia, but we will aid you when we can :knight:

[Myth]

More like the Anti-Modgols coalition now :laugh4: Is this confirmed? I'll kick him out of the group if such is the case.

[slysnake]

BETRAYAL!!:furious3: The Fatamid Sultan shows his true nature by his secret attacks against the United Anti-Mongol Front. He is now allied with the infidel. While the armies of the Caliph are off defending the world against the terror of the steppes he used the military access given him to attack undefended Seljuk cities. He intends to take over the world while the good people fight off the Horde. Help is requested from any other leaders of the UAMF to destroy this turncoat!!!


OOC: I'll finish the turn and post the save after work. And Zim-you're name's going to the top of my "future butt-kicking in a Hotseat" list:laugh4:

I have at least 3 stacks in North Italy ready to be dispatched to aid you within the next season or so, hang in there!

[Zim]

BETRAYAL!!:furious3: The Fatamid Sultan shows his true nature by his secret attacks against the United Anti-Mongol Front. He is now allied with the infidel. While the armies of the Caliph are off defending the world against the terror of the steppes he used the military access given him to attack undefended Seljuk cities. He intends to take over the world while the good people fight off the Horde. Help is requested from any other leaders of the UAMF to destroy this turncoat!!!


OOC: I'll finish the turn and post the save after work. And Zim-you're name's going to the top of my "future butt-kicking in a Hotseat" list:laugh4:

Military access? I cancelled our alliance a couple turns back. Half expected either a preemptive strike or an accusatory pm. ~;P

No other shared hotseats. I'm safe...for now (wel, except in this one).

Now for something more IC: Fool, none can resist the might of the Khan. One either joins with him or finds their cities in ruins. We merely opted for the former.


More like the Anti-Modgols coalition now :laugh4: Is this confirmed? I'll kick him out of the group if such is the case.

Left the group last night. :beam:

[Nightbringer]

Oh dear, with two mods against us they can read our every message and modify our every action!
Nevertheless, Kieven Rus stands by its allies and we will immediately begin moving forces to aid the Seljuks!

[LooseCannon1]

It looks like the alliance was cancelled last turn but I received no diplomatic or in-game message about it. I have attached my artist's painting of our maps and troop movements (OOC-can't call 'em screenshots:laugh4:) and you can see how I thought finally help for our beseiged Persian allies is arriving. And how defenseless my cities were. Ceasarea, Edessa, and somethingsomething were conquered this year. Our armies are committed to the death of the infidel. Hopefully we can do enough damage against him that the Sultan will realize his mistake of abandoning the UAMF and then our allies will finish him off.

France up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9836)

OOC-Kick his butt guys:hmg:

[Zim]

That was it. I moved into your territory the turn I cancelled the alliance and then attacked the next turn. I assumed someone would get a message for the alliance cancellation but these things are funny in hotseats.

You guys might not want to try too hard. All those armies you're sending will just make it easier for the ERE to beat me and easily meet the requirements for conquests from a player nation to win once the Mongols are gone. ~;p

[Myth]

Yeah but at least they can trust Silver not to betray them. Truth be told I offered Monkey the same deal, but that was before I played turn 1 and before I allied with the others. Now though I'm hoping I can make him regret it :laugh4:

[Thanatos Eclipse]

I wasn't planning to make any stops on my way to fight the mongols, but you do what you have to do. ;) Two Fatimid fortresses fall to the French, maybe they'll think twice next time about betraying the UAMF. On the bright side, now those of us looking for a forward base in the east won't have to pay for it; so for my part, thanks Zim!!!

Rome
3410

[slysnake]

UK up

3422

[Zim]

Gaza-Damietta or Adana-Caesara I'm guessing? Unless the French forces are pretty spread out.


I wasn't planning to make any stops on my way to fight the mongols, but you do what you have to do. ;) Two Fatimid fortresses fall to the French, maybe they'll think twice next time about betraying the UAMF. On the bright side, now those of us looking for a forward base in the east won't have to pay for it; so for my part, thanks Zim!!!

Rome
3410

[Thanatos Eclipse]

we're a little more spread out then that ;)

[Rougeman]

3429

[Zim]

Unless we're talking about North Africa (which I'm not too concerned about, those provinces make me very little money and would cost too much to defend) that would seem to put your armies in both the Anatolia and Egypt areas. Previous is sensible enough but the latter is far off any route to the Mongols and has interesting implications that make me happier about my decision...


we're a little more spread out then that ;)

[Thanatos Eclipse]

Just north Africa this turn

[Zim]

Ah, good. So I have a turn or two before losing the other fortresses. :clown:

[SilverShield]

aw man whats that egypt attacked seljuks? that just a mistake or is that for real? i gotta know about that before im doing my turn


alright just checked the thread so its real. man thats bad. now the game is going hard already. thought of good fella Zim gone bad going with the evil mongo shepherd there. man some bad sr collabo.nasty. changing the entire game totally taking it to the red zone already. bad moment right now thought im just doing some minor troop movement and some recruiting and thats about it wasnt expecting that. im in need of a slight extension now. yea i said that before and i am kinda slow these days but theres just lots of stuff going on right now im in preparation for a competition in some weeks so lots of cardio and low carb dieting which is draining already and im working with a new junior team now which is cool but time consuming add to this the nonsense two jealousy issue having girls in a love triangle are giving u ,a minor legal issue and the day to day stuff and u just totally out of time and the mood for playing so thats why im kinda off from the game but the wotk game is still in my heart so im sticking to this especially now that game really is on. im having this up some time tomorrow

[SilverShield]

alright here it is already had a lil schedule change so got it done already. but man that turn really took me a while its a tense situation there. literally just looked at the screen for about 20 min thinking about the situation i mean the entire game changed now and im totally unprepared. its just bad. its been 20 min for sure before i started doing anything this situation really gets u thinking. the whole troop deployment took me ages i totally got caught off guard there.just bad. but thats what u getting for not following ur guts. but i really thought that good fella Zim would never be doing that but he did. he just been playing the nice dude here all along while hes evil at heart. its the zimperator.nasty nasty. now the evil mongo shepherd really got a shot at taking out anyone. but alright i mean actually thats fine its like that the mongols are way weaker than in the first wotk without egypt siding with them they d had a hard time probably going down in an roman egyptian onslaught. i mean im kinda surprised they still somewhat stuck there in kwarzy land. they are kinda lacking that bulldozer power from the first wotk. the pure mass of force and the units power still is over it but anyway they are lacking that lethal swag now. back then they really been unleashed rushing the entire map like a grizzly. no matter who d played them. its the shortened movement rate in this game that is tying them down kinda. in broken crescent the movement rate of the mongols was just insane. thats what was putting them ahead. and the enhanced movement rate of the generals also effected the trebuckets which is different in this game now aint it. in this game even if a general got an amped up movement rate all the siege weaponry still moves with basic speed or points or however its measured thats at least what i experienced. i mean with those level 3 roads of the romans i got a general that basically is moving from poland to constantinople in 2 turns but the generals movement rate got zero effect on the siege engines at least thats what its like for me. in broken crescent all the trebuckets got an enhanced movement rate as well once they been with a general. and some generals movement rate really been insane the khan as a sole unit covered the entire screen back then. that was just crazy. it lastly was his army that broke through the defensive line into iran cutting it for good. but whatever with the mongo pharao alliance the game changed 180. its really getting tough now. all of egypts bases are loaded. hes all ready. the next rounds are being decisive. totally caught me off guard. im putting some faith in that squadron of east roman heavy cav that i ve deployed to the region they capable of dealing some major blows but having planned and well positioned all his forces already egypt cleary got a better position right now and egypts forces are matching mine in numbers total. but whatever its still an open game there and my roman baby is fighting to the last man

moors up
http://depositfiles.com/files/uj6lw4j3w

aw yea Ezilknan is off so someone maybe is subbing the moors

[phonicsmonkey]

the mongols are way weaker than in the first wotk....they are kinda lacking that bulldozer power from the first wotk. the pure mass of force and the units power still is over it but ....its the shortened movement rate in this game that is tying them down kinda.

In Broken Crescent 1.05 the Mongols unit stats had not been changed from the vanilla stats and were massively higher across the board than the other factions, which had been scaled down in proportion to each other - hence they were near-impossible to kill on the battle map or in autoresolve and you could leave them in the open knowing it would take several enemy stacks to make a dent on one stack of yours. In SS the Mongols have been modified along with the rest of the factions so that they are tough but not superhuman.

Movement rate is another reason as you rightly point out and also the rules we have in this game restricting spies and the use of siege weapons.

All this means I have had to proceed slowly and with caution.


aw yea Ezilknan is off so someone maybe is subbing the moors

Need a volunteer please!

[Nightbringer]

I'll do it

[phonicsmonkey]

I'll do it

Let me know if you need the pw cleared, I can't recall if I have already done this last turn or whether he passed it on to you guys in private.

[Nightbringer]

Let me know if you need the pw cleared, I can't recall if I have already done this last turn or whether he passed it on to you guys in private.

It does need to be cleared :)

[Zim]

Cleared

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9854

The Mongol-Egyptian alliance has been fairly long planned, although only firmly rooted whe I realized SS's mongols aren't quite as overwhelming as BC's. Figured they could use an ally. :clown:

I had forgotten I'd allied in game with the Turks and it threw me off a bit. I was certain my cancelling the alliance and moving troops towards Caesara would be noticed. :sweatdrop:

[Thanatos Eclipse]

I find alliance cancellations go unnoticed fairly easily in hotseats cause it doesn't give notifications like in single player :P

[Nightbringer]

kwarezmians up
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9855

[Myth]

Denmark up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9858) Their PW has been cleared, who is playing them now?

[phonicsmonkey]

I thought TCV was still playing - I think we skipped him last time because he was late

[The Celtic Viking]

Yes, I'm still playing them.

Fatimids' save file is here. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9859)

[Zim]

Alright, time to see how much of my empire has been crushed and or is staring down hordes of crusaders coming my way. :clown:

[Zim]

Hey everyone, can I get about one day's extension?

[phonicsmonkey]

Sure mate

[Nightbringer]

absolutely not, I demand you let me sub your turn so I can give all your settlements to m, I mean, MAKE YOU WIN.
:yes:

[AsbestosGasMask]

Hi everyone, i'm having problems loading any hotseat campaign. I checked the twc forums, but they only have two posts on my issue, and when i tried what was suggested, it didn't work. If anyone can offer some advice about how to resolve this matter, it would be much appreciated. When I try to load the game from the load menu, the loading screen comes up, then seems to load again almost instantly and takes me back to the main menu, so it isn't a ctd. Thanks.

[Nightbringer]

have you updated kingdoms to 1.5?

[phonicsmonkey]

have you updated kingdoms to 1.5?

Exactly what I was going to ask.

Also, have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling everything in order?

[Zim]

Done. In exchange for losing two fortresses we have taken two more.

A word to the wise, sometimes the comp is quite silly when deciding if you can build a fort or not.

Cumans!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9880

[slysnake]

Done. In exchange for losing two fortresses we have taken two more.

A word to the wise, sometimes the comp is quite silly when deciding if you can build a fort or not.

Cumans!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9880

Just imagine how I feel in End of Third Age, I can't build forts anyway!

[phonicsmonkey]

sly, do you know whether asbo has tried the things above?

[Zim]

At least in that regard we're all on an equal footing. None of us can build them that I'm aware of.


Just imagine how I feel in End of Third Age, I can't build forts anyway!

[phonicsmonkey]

AsbestosGasMask, how are you going?

slysnake, are you able to sub for him again while he works on it?

[slysnake]

AsbestosGasMask, how are you going?

slysnake, are you able to sub for him again while he works on it?

Sure, I'll play it tomorrow along with uploading my End of Third Age save :)

[slysnake]

Mongols

3479

[phonicsmonkey]

Seljuks

Many brave Kwarezm, Cuman and Seljuk men died this day

[LooseCannon1]

Time flies when you're having fun.. Save will be up within 14 hours.

[AsbestosGasMask]

Sorry for not replying sooner, have been having technical difficulties. Yes my Kingdoms is 1.5 and i have tried unistalling and reinstalling everything. I just doesn't want to load the save files i have downloaded. :(

[phonicsmonkey]

Sorry for not replying sooner, have been having technical difficulties. Yes my Kingdoms is 1.5 and i have tried unistalling and reinstalling everything. I just doesn't want to load the save files i have downloaded. :(

It's really weird because usually when it CTDs when you try to load a hotseat save it's because your version of the game is not the same as the one the save was created in.

The thing most people forget is to patch Kingdoms before installing a mod over the top, but maybe your SS is not correctly installed? Does it say 6.4 on the loading screen?

[LooseCannon1]

France is up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9896) All members of the UAMF please check the that thread.

[Thanatos Eclipse]

3503

[slysnake]

UK up 3506

[Rougeman]

3515

[SilverShield]

man those turns are intense. they for sure at least as challenging as the mongol turns in the first wotk

moors up
http://depositfiles.com/files/5v37cuqlh

dont know how is doing the moors turns now

[phonicsmonkey]

NB has been subbing. Should I switch them to AI instead? We can always switch them back when Ezil comes back.

[Nightbringer]

I can sub them again this turn since I am right after them.

[Nightbringer]

Khwarezmians up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9909

[SilverShield]

man that was fast. u did 2 turns while i was hardly doing some grocery. werk!

[Nightbringer]

man that was fast. u did 2 turns while i was hardly doing some grocery. werk!

Well, all I had to do was move everything south :)

[phonicsmonkey]

Surely you mean west...

[Nightbringer]

If you mean to imply that I would flee your armies, surely you jest. No, the glory of Kieven Rus has simply found a new target, and I can tell you this particular game is one I have played before. I know exactly what I am doing heading South.

[SilverShield]

If you mean to imply that I would flee your armies, surely you jest. No, the glory of Kieven Rus has simply found a new target, and I can tell you this particular game is one I have played before. I know exactly what I am doing heading South.

i got this distant memory in my head of kiev squishing egypt once already back in the dogs of war game. kiev was ruled by u but who was it who was going down back then. whos egyptian empire fell once already in a major war against kiev. who was that. im trying hard to recall that but zimpossible been too long ago already

[Quirl]

Yo Silvershield. How ya been? I remember Dogs of War. Merlox used to play Egypt... until it was found he had been cheating in my game, Lords of the East, and had probably been cheating in Dogs of War as well. Barcamartin took them over for awhile, because his faction (the Seljuks) were their allies.

Good times. :)

[Myth]

Cheating how?

[Quirl]

He had found some way to give himself extra income or units or both. He was building up impossibly fast and later admitted to using some external program.

[Nightbringer]

i got this distant memory in my head of kiev squishing egypt once already back in the dogs of war game. kiev was ruled by u but who was it who was going down back then. whos egyptian empire fell once already in a major war against kiev. who was that. im trying hard to recall that but zimpossible been too long ago already

It was Cecil at the time I believe, but I'm sure Zim will fit the role nicely.

[Myth]

That's just pathetic IMO... Anyway Denmark up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9915)

[phonicsmonkey]

Egypt in DoW started out as Merlox. He was banned from TR games after admitting breaking the rules of at least one game.

Then the faction was variously controlled by barcamartin, Zim and finally Cecil if I remember rightly.

[SilverShield]

actually i was just punning around coz i thought Zim was ruling them at the end. thats why i said zimpossible. but anyway

and Quirl is back? how about that huh! story telling is going up and being all revived again huh. the slain seljuk generals is a classic tale already aint it. we had a good time back in the first wrath of the khan didnt we. my stunt in lands of lord was pretty short lived with sindhi going down after 3 rounds already but anyway

and yea Merlox. i still got in my head how he crushed my spanish army back then when i was laying my very first siege ever. man this was back in 2009. crazy. time is going down like . this getting u all sentimental reminiscing over the past. but maybe im just too low on carbs right now

[Quirl]

Ha ha! "Too low on carbs." Silver, you lovable, muscle-headed lug. You're the reason I returned. :beam:

I hope to get some good stories going here soon. Even gonna hopefully host another game in a few months...

And I remember the slain Seljuk generals--back in Wrath of the Khan 1. Good times, good times. A lot of the faithful died that game. Avenge them here in WotK2, guys! :2thumbsup:

[phonicsmonkey]

And I remember the slain Seljuk generals--back in Wrath of the Khan 1. Good times, good times. A lot of the faithful died that game. Avenge them here in WotK2, guys! :2thumbsup:

Ah, the Six Great Atabegs of the Battle of Atrak River (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?121165-Legends-of-the-Khan-BC-Hotseat-story-thread&p=2466747&viewfull=1#post2466747)

Still sends shivers up my spine to read it...

[Quirl]

lol. I remember endeavoring to write a good story for Barcamartin's generals... since I got them all killed. :clown:

Same when I killed your Freddy, in what ended up being my favorite story (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?122369-Lords-of-the-East-Library&p=2505155&viewfull=1#post2505155) I wrote. :beam:

[phonicsmonkey]

Same when I killed your Freddy, in what ended up being my favorite story (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?122369-Lords-of-the-East-Library&p=2505155&viewfull=1#post2505155) I wrote. :beam:

I didn't like that one :clown:

If I had to choose for myself I would have preferred Baldwin's death (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?122369-Lords-of-the-East-Library&p=2504723&viewfull=1#post2504723)

[Nightbringer]

actually i was just punning around coz i thought Zim was ruling them at the end. thats why i said zimpossible. but anyway

and Quirl is back? how about that huh! story telling is going up and being all revived again huh. the slain seljuk generals is a classic tale already aint it. we had a good time back in the first wrath of the khan didnt we. my stunt in lands of lord was pretty short lived with sindhi going down after 3 rounds already but anyway

and yea Merlox. i still got in my head how he crushed my spanish army back then when i was laying my very first siege ever. man this was back in 2009. crazy. time is going down like . this getting u all sentimental reminiscing over the past. but maybe im just too low on carbs right now

I seem to recall zim controlling them a bit of the time too, but i honestly can't remember.

[Quirl]

lol, Phonics.

I enjoyed your story there too. :beam:

[The Celtic Viking]

Back to the Fatimids. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9919)

[AsbestosGasMask]

Yes it says 6.4 on the loading screen.

Im sorry guys but ill have to drop out until i can fix the issue. If or when i resolve it i shall return if the hotseat is still going. :(

Thanks for all you help and carry on conquering :)

[slysnake]

bump!

[Zim]

It's taking a distressingly long time for the bulk of the map to conquer Egypt, although if the fleets coming my way are any indications, things should speed up soon.

Cumans still being subbed?

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9923

[slysnake]

It's taking a distressingly long time for the bulk of the map to conquer Egypt, although if the fleets coming my way are any indications, things should speed up soon.

Cumans still being subbed?

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9923

Evidently so, I'll be happy to sub again in the time being.

[slysnake]

Mongols!

3672

[phonicsmonkey]

Seljuks

[slysnake]

bump!

[LooseCannon1]

doing what damage I can where I can.:creep: France up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9945)

[Visor]

Need a player?

[phonicsmonkey]

Need a player?

Yes! Do you want the Cumans back?

[slysnake]

Yes! Do you want the Cumans back?

I don't think my friend is interested in playing the Cumans anymore, so go ahead and take them - they need all the help they can get! :D

[Thanatos Eclipse]

3853

[slysnake]

England!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/c300k2

[Rougeman]

3874

[slysnake]

bump!

[SilverShield]

massive trench warfare. it already is kinda and its just more massive in 2 rounds already. sheer power in numbers will make the difference. so either the mongols will seal the deal or the western forces. whoever arrives the scene first. and as this one army group of the mongols made a u turn down south into iraq already with a spearhead down to basra it probably is the mongols who ll arrive first

moors up whoever moor is
http://depositfiles.com/files/zvlbh6nis

[phonicsmonkey]

as this one army group of the mongols made a u turn down south into iraq already with a spearhead down to basra it probably is the mongols who ll arrive first

Obviously we haven't been killing enough of your agents

[Rougeman]

probably is the mongols who ll arrive first

depends how fast british horses are :wink:

[SilverShield]

just thought about Mithridate as the new moor. hes reliable and capable. a good draft. i d asked him about it but its ur game man

[SilverShield]

Obviously we haven't been killing enough of your agents


they all good. bros and hos




im more into the british archers. they probably a good weapon against mongol horses. esp with that special quality those wooden sticks

[phonicsmonkey]

just thought about Mithridate as the new moor. hes reliable and capable. a good draft. i d asked him about it but its ur game man

Happy for Mithri to join as the moors if he's interested. NB was subbing them.

[slysnake]

bump.

[Mithridate]

Ill take the moors

Will take a look, but please give me an extension, some stuff came up irl and im not at home

[Thanatos Eclipse]

I don't think that will be a problem, welcome to the game!

[Mithridate]

Thank you, is this pretty much all vs the mongols/fatmids? All AI factions wiped out it seems, i will need a lot of map information since my information is OLD :D

kiev up

[Myth]

Welcome! I am glad to see you being so active. We need more newcomers like you :yes: For now it's everyone vs the Mongols and Fatamids yes. The Mongols need to go because any one nation would be unable to stop them one on one, and their victory conditions can allow them to win quickly if left unchecked.

The Fatamids need to go because Zim was the first backstabber in our midst. Word of warning though, he won't be the last :laugh4:

[Nightbringer]

Welcome Mithridate!

Kwazies up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9973

[Mithridate]

Welcome! I am glad to see you being so active. We need more newcomers like you :yes:
Being temporarily unemployed with a big chunk of my closer friends in Australia means a tad too much spare time :P

Then again, this is pretty bloody great

[Myth]

Denmark (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9976)

[The Celtic Viking]

Fear not, I shall do my turn when I get the time tonight.

[The Celtic Viking]

Done. Fatimids' turn again. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9982)

[Zim]

Hey everyone. This one is a little tricky to get a sub as I think Only Phonics would have the right grasp of where the game is. Mind if I get him to sub within the next day or so? He should be back shortly if I recall.

[Nightbringer]

Hey everyone. This one is a little tricky to get a sub as I think Only Phonics would have the right grasp of where the game is. Mind if I get him to sub within the next day or so? He should be back shortly if I recall.

I'm fine with that!

[phonicsmonkey]

I'll be back later today and should be able to do it this evening.

[phonicsmonkey]

Ok, it's done and the Cumans are up

Visorslash, you're stepping back in right?

[Visor]

phonicsmonkey

Save needs clearing.

[phonicsmonkey]

apologies Visorslash, here it is

[Myth]

Yes! I knew you couldn't stay away for too long :2thumbsup:

[phonicsmonkey]

bump, Visorslash

[Visor]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/aw21br

phonicsmonkey

[phonicsmonkey]

Seljuks, LooseCannon1

Having a bit of a resurgence Myth? It won't last long

[Mithridate]

Ive heard theres an united anti-mongol front having a group session somewhere...

tMoF wonders why their all knowing leader is not part of it

[LooseCannon1]

France up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10000)

[Thanatos Eclipse]

Oh God, I prayeth the people be mad, for they speak of that which must not be! They speak of demons hiding in the woods near Pamplona, but so far our scouts have only been able to find Moorish trebuchets skulking about. Surely the new Moorish leader must be lost on his way to the Holy Lands, for to think of another betrayal to the cause is just too much to bear.

4290

[Mithridate]

The Men Of Faith, lead by brave Tahyah will no longer tolerate Catholic influence in Iberia or Northwestern africa. Moorish rule shall be established and the old corrupt rulers removed. We hold no love for the French but will stay our hands should the French and men of the west accept our NAP for we need to deal with our misguided brothers in the east.

The Moorish armies shall unite with all against the Mongols and their ilk if we are given a guarantee of peace from France, HRE and England. First however, we shall take or recieve Palma, Zaragoza and Pamplona for Iberia, Algiers and Beleb el Anab from Northen Africa. The people have not yet decided regarding Tunis and the Byzantine claims further to the East. We have sent an army to Toulouse and will take the Castle hostage, returning it once our demands are met. Should our demands be accept before the castle falls, we shall abort the siege.

Accept our demands, and the west shall remain safe as we bring all our power to bear against the Fatmid. Reject, and we shall wage holy war on France and any who stands against us.


The people cry out to unite our lands once and for all, the ruling classes shall appease them. We know about the atrocities of the Mongols, the corruption and folly of our brethren. We desire to liberate the East, but can only do so once our demands are met and we hold whats rightfully ours.

[SilverShield]

u serious? :daisy: is that? man and it was me who said u was a good moor. i had that wrong. the nasty mongo herder did his thing. thats some nasty step :daisy: spell or whatever. shame man



The Men Of Faith, lead by brave Tahyah will no longer tolerate Catholic influence in Iberia or Northwestern africa. Moorish rule shall be established and the old corrupt rulers removed. We hold no love for the French but will stay our hands should the French and men of the west accept our NAP for we need to deal with our misguided brothers in the east.

The Moorish armies shall unite with all against the Mongols and their ilk if we are given a guarantee of peace from France, HRE and England. First however, we shall take or recieve Palma, Zaragoza and Pamplona for Iberia, Algiers and Beleb el Anab from Northen Africa. The people have not yet decided regarding Tunis and the Byzantine claims further to the East. We have sent an army to Toulouse and will take the Castle hostage, returning it once our demands are met. Should our demands be accept before the castle falls, we shall abort the siege.

Accept our demands, and the west shall remain safe as we bring all our power to bear against the Fatmid. Reject, and we shall wage holy war on France and any who stands against us.


The people cry out to unite our lands once and for all, the ruling classes shall appease them. We know about the atrocities of the Mongols, the corruption and folly of our brethren. We desire to liberate the East, but can only do so once our demands are met and we hold whats rightfully ours.

[Mithridate]

Im not sheep, i wont simply be herded you know :)

IC
Accept my demands, and you will gain a devoted ally. Refuse me and I will take the land anyway, then fight tooth and nail to keep them while the East continues to grow.
Five regions will make the difference between a great nation in arms with, or against you. Five regions may determine the outcome of the east, the outcome for Europe.

Five regions and we shall bring divine wrath upon the Fatmid until they relent and cut their bonds with the Mongol hordes.

[phonicsmonkey]

Nice blackmail attempt there Mithri

EDIT: sorry, technically it's extortion isn't it?

[Mithridate]

Nice blackmail attempt there Mithri

EDIT: sorry, technically it's extortion isn't it?
Id call it a little bit of both :) But extortion, yes.

But the lands are mine by right, Its all formerly Moorish land (giving up 3 regions) or land held by former enemies of moor, who we had to fight for decades/centuries.

[Mithridate]

Bump, were well in on the 3rd day

[slysnake]

Bump, were well in on the 3rd day

Sorry guys, been trying to get files fixed for another hotseat - will play my turn for this hotseat now :)

EDIT: Rougeman Your turn is up. http://www.sendspace.com/file/wbrwal

[slysnake]

The Imperial Ambassador stands to make an announcement to the other emissaries:

"My Holy Emperor would like to announce to the Kings and Queens of Europe and the near East that our Kingdom, the Western Roman Empire, has decided to sever all relations - both alliance and trade rights - with the Moors from this day onward. Such treaties will be officially be ended when a diplomat can be sent to verify our decision with a Moorish representative."

The Ambassador coughs to clear his throat, and speaks sternly to the Moorish emissary:

"I do not have to explain my Emperor's motives, as I am sure your own King is very much aware of them. Cancel your claims for all current French lands and pull back your armies - they belong in the far east where the real men of god are currently fighting to protect our good and kind-hearted liberties. Nations do not mistrust each other because they are armed; they are armed because they mistrust each other. If your King mistrusts us, I ask why your own men sit on the French borders whilst the other nations of Europe are now sending their armies east?"

Turning to face the other emissaries, smiling at the French ambassador whilst doing so, makes another announcement in his bellowing voice:

"I now urge all other leaders in Europe to follow in my footsteps and to consider canceling any trade rights they have with the Moors. I do wish to make it clear though, that, should the Moors renounce any claims they may have to French lands, all trade rights and general friendly relations between our nations and the Moors should be restored to it's former self."

He turns back to the Moor, his face looking rather solemn:

"You have my word on that."

[Mithridate]

We will not back down from our claims, should the masters of Europe wish to negotiate terms however...

What is demanded is rightfully ours, former Aragon lands AND ancestral Moorish lands!
Refusal will force us not only to invade, but exterminate the innocent misguided people in France.

Our choice to reclaim our rightful land has little to do with trust, the promise to bring our wrath to the east should you accept our demands has.
I must remind you, should you decide to ignore us and wage war with us. The East shall devour you from behind, while your armies shatters on our walls or sink to the bottom of the oceans!

You cannot stop us from taking what is ours, you can however prevent us from taking more while also make us your devoted allies.

[Rougeman]

SilverShield

[SilverShield]

u guys knew that with the forum twitter style thing theres no email after all. if it wasnt for a pm that i came here i had no idea im acutally up. imo we better off with regular pms aint we. i probably got this up later today already

[SilverShield]

alright here it is already and that was a good round. the moor thing kinda is a bummer but anyways. im positive that france will succeed

the men of faith up
http://depositfiles.com/files/idm93jzxk

[phonicsmonkey]

that was a good round.

I don't like the sound of that

[Mithridate]

Since no response have been given from france nor England, the moors shall proceed as planned

PM me should you wish to begin negotiations, ill play as soon as i can!

[Mithridate]

Zaragoza, pamplona, Palma, Algiers and Tolouse taken.

Tolouse have not been exterminated as a sign of goodwill from the moors, should we still be refused when the next season arrives... exterminations await.
For the last time, accept our demands. We shall not ask again.

kiev up

[Thanatos Eclipse]

France does not negotiate with terrorist. The Moors have no rightful claims to the lands of France, and have had no disagreement before now about our borders. Until madness relinquishes its hold and reason returned to the throne of the moors, there will be no negotiations. If I die, I go a free man, not a slave to the Mongolians or their puppets! Donne-moi la liberté ou donnez-moi la mort!

[phonicsmonkey]

Tolouse have not been exterminated as a sign of goodwill from the moors.


France does not negotiate with terrorist.

:laugh4:

[Mithridate]

A shame the leader of France is so delusional, we do not contest any land of France.
But, seeing as france refuses to see reason there can only be war...

Let it be known that the moors will eliminate the corrupted threat of france but hold no grudge against other European factions. Stay out of this war and there shall be peace!

[Nightbringer]

Myth
Khwarezmians!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10016

[Thanatos Eclipse]

It seems the Moorish King is the delusional one, how can you expect anyone to trust you, when you fight against the cause of a unified anti-mongol front. It is clear to all now that you are an agent of chaos and a puppet to the mongols. Enjoy your victories while you can, it will not last long.

[Rougeman]

A shame the leader of France is so delusional, we do not contest any land of France.
But, seeing as france refuses to see reason there can only be war...

Let it be known that the moors will eliminate the corrupted threat of france but hold no grudge against other European factions. Stay out of this war and there shall be peace!

i was under the impression that the moors were the ones who engaged hostilities, as a message from the french king clearly states that you hid weapons of war on french lands

Britain will not enter this conflict, and wishes peace with all europeans, and we only want passage through the strait of gibralter to head to the east

[Mithridate]

i was under the impression that the moors were the ones who engaged hostilities, as a message from the french king clearly states that you hid weapons of war on french lands

Britain will not enter this conflict, and wishes peace with all europeans, and we only want passage through the strait of gibralter to head to the east
This is false, the trebs was in our barcelonian territory. Your request shall be granted and you have my word that they shall pass safely, it is true we drew first blood.But we made our intent clear first and gave france a chance for peace before doing so.

We are puppets of no one and have made our intent clear.

It seems the Moorish King is the delusional one, how can you expect anyone to trust you, when you fight against the cause of a unified anti-mongol front. It is clear to all now that you are an agent of chaos and a puppet to the mongols. Enjoy your victories while you can, it will not last long.
I fight for Moor, and the moors can not march against a distant enemy until all its people is united. It is in the fronts interest to have us on your side, a nation in fractions have no business abroad. After this, we shall be united one way or another.

[Myth]

Denmark up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10018). The Celtic Viking

[Thanatos Eclipse]

we made our intent clear first and gave france a chance for peace before doing so.

Hardly, the Moors remained silent till their hiding armies where outed! It's doubtful there would have been any warning had they not been spotted.

[Mithridate]

Hardly, the Moors remained silent till their hiding armies where outed! It's doubtful there would have been any warning had they not been spotted.
Laughable, the french fear a one unit "army" of trebuches? "outed" well within our region of Barcelona?

You had the chance before blood was spilled, you have been repeatedly asked to meet our demands or at least negotiate.
We are done responding to empty accusations and speculation, we shall meet in glorious battle.

Submit, or be destroyed.

OOC pretty sure i sent an in game message to England when i played my first turn, need him to confirm though... And i suggest you meet the moorish demands for your own and europes sake, you have already lost the contested regions (except one large town, although we took Tolouse). God speed to your archer army, and hidden army. They will need it.

I do hope the mongols take advantage of this, but know it was and still is my intention to fight the east.

[Thanatos Eclipse]

It was well more then just trebuches found hiding in the woods, including one of your own family, besides if they weren't planning to attack, there would have been no need for them to hide in range of a french castle.

I am doing what is best for my people's sake, they would rather die in honorable battle here then live long enough to suffer through the Mongolian victory you have set motion.

[phonicsmonkey]

I do hope the mongols take advantage of this

Amusing as this is to observe, I'm not sure it helps me much beyond potentially stopping some western armies from travelling the long distances to the east to fight me as quickly as they would otherwise.

[Thanatos Eclipse]

If we let a little road bump like this slow down our efforts against the mongols, we just as well give up now :P

[The Celtic Viking]

Zim: Back to the Fatimids again. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10021)

[SilverShield]

:daisy:

too busy for more than that on this whole moor thing

[phonicsmonkey]

Visorslash, Cumans are up

[Visor]

phonicsmonkey

GOlden Horde.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/4b0rip

[phonicsmonkey]

LooseCannon1, Seljuks are up. The guys in the fort near Gorgan can't move this turn.

I killed Turks, Rus and Khwarezm this turn, took some cities, moved my hordes steadily west, assassinated a Seljuk lordling....but my favourite thing of all was fighting the battle where Genghis Khan killed Saladin.

This is why I love Total War!

[Myth]

fighting the battle where Genghis Khan killed Saladin.

Does not compute :stare:

[phonicsmonkey]

Selahuddin then - the Seljuk Sultan

[LooseCannon1]

Genghis Khan thought he was immortal. Not merely content to hide in his fort and outlast the bombardment raining down upon him, he foolishly risked his men and his own life. But charging into the Ottoman infantry showed how mortal he was. Quickly overwhelmed, he tried to regroup as his bodyguards fell around him. Arrows started sticking out of various body parts. He screamed once more, a petulant cry to his pagan god and a final arrow pierced his throat. Silencing forever one of the most evil men in history, his remains were feed to the dogs, and the bones scattered in the wind. Yes, it was a great day



France up France up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10036)

[Mithridate]

The Moorish Caliph put his ear to the ground, awaiting the wail from the hordes with a cruel smile on his old withered face

Soon, you shall be joined by more heathens Timujin... soon... Yet all he hears is the loud noise of his Caliphate.
Around him, the Armies of moor descend upon France, cries of feverish ecstasy drowning even the hooves and heavy steps of the army.

Soon...

[phonicsmonkey]

Genghis Khan thought he was immortal. Not merely content to hide in his fort and outlast the bombardment raining down upon him, he foolishly risked his men and his own life. But charging into the Ottoman infantry showed how mortal he was. Quickly overwhelmed, he tried to regroup as his bodyguards fell around him. Arrows started sticking out of various body parts. He screamed once more, a petulant cry to his pagan god and a final arrow pierced his throat. Silencing forever one of the most evil men in history, his remains were feed to the dogs, and the bones scattered in the wind. Yes, it was a great day

Vengeance is yours! Well played, I was hoping my fort spam would slow you down enough that you couldn't reach him in one turn...

[Thanatos Eclipse]

I'll have this turn up in a little bit, been a busy day :)

[Thanatos Eclipse]

4678

turn update coming soon >:}

[Mithridate]

4678

turn update coming soon >:}
I dont like the sound of that :(

[Thanatos Eclipse]

The French diplomat turns to the Moor, his face contorted in anger, “The arrogance! You expect us to accept peace after you invade France unprovoked, burning our lands and butchering our people! You must really be full of yourself, sending the paperwork already written up and signed by none other then your Caliph, without even consulting us first. You offer peace, and the trade of Toulouse for the last French-African settlement you demanded…” the French diplomat grits his teeth, then falls to his knees in despair, “…And you shall have it.” From his clutched hand falls the agreement, the French Grandmaster’s signature clearly visible.

[Thanatos Eclipse]

Mithridate

“Oh, there is just one other thing,” the Frenchman looks up ginning, “a little something my lord requests, before he will accept any lasting peace with the Moors. I mean you understand right? He’s not asking much, just a token really, a trifle; what he wants from you is your Caliph. More precisely, he wants to see the Caliph's bones salted and burned; to make sure whatever evil that possesses him never returns, of course.”

[slysnake]

Your turn Rougeman :)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/62z2yw

[Mithridate]

You jest sons of france? We thought you kept fools for such things, but perhaps we should not be surprised...

Certainly, we shall provide his bones for your pleasure. Will you oblige to our demands and swear a holy vow to keep the peace?
Thanatos Eclipse

We will not trade regions should you refuse, the war would go on

[Thanatos Eclipse]

Mithridate

The Frenchman laughs, “You caught me, I do jest, and on that note, the ashes should reach your heir within the day. Lord knows the devil loves to play, and now he’s got two puppets. Almost a complete set; a Khan, a Caliph, and that just leaves a Sultan…

Now for our counter proposal: with your generous gift of Toulouse, my Lords sees that the Moors might not be all currupt yet. You just give France back the rest of her lands and we can all frolic off to the east and fight the Mongols together like the fairy tale the Moors claim to want. We won’t even interfere if the Moors decide to negotiate with the Papacy for the return of the new Vatican.

Oh that reminds me, France has been reconciled with His Most Holy Eminence, all for the small price of a new home for the Church; which we thank the Moors very much for generously providing.”

[Mithridate]

Ouch, now i register that its allowed to fight all battles!

Ah... bummer :)

[slysnake]

The Holy Roman diplomat chuckles to himself,

"We do hope that the Pope has been given a nice new villa in the south of France with lot's of lovely vineyards, oh, and water features to! Anything to keep him from randomly moving his army around the south of Europe after he 'misplaced' Rome into the hands of my own Emperor. However, my Emperor does wish that the Pope is not as much of a bother to your noble king as he was to mine, and commends you for your decision!"

And with that the Roman diplomat rose his glass to the Frenchman, commending his noble and wise decision to grant the Pope a new home.

[Mithridate]

Just so happens its in Iberia, not france... Would not count on it being papal for very long :D

Ive made a mess of the initiation on the war (i should prolly say he have),
but that will merely make it interesting now. May the best man win, my french foe!

[Thanatos Eclipse]

Hey, I'm ok with just being the luckiest man :D

[SilverShield]

guys some straight talk without the role playing and satiric stuff so is it war or no war between u guys - france and moors? gotta know about this before my turn is up

[Mithridate]

Were at war, and i wont stop until im destroyed or Iberia and my African holdings are are safe under moorish rule.

After that id like peace but will keep pushing against france, as long as he wont accept my demands.
I intend to join up against the Mongols, but if i have to fight more than France ill ally with the mongols and Fatmid

[Rougeman]

4756

[Myth]

If I had a say in the matter I'd have all the Mooorish neighbours jump at them and take them out in 10 turns. This should serve as a warning that if you turn against the pack you get cast out and eaten.

[SilverShield]

man that mongol vanguard is more like a special operation force. those unit stats are sick

moors up
http://depositfiles.com/files/0v9q26wxi

[SilverShield]

what i saw on the map and that map was all new france is doing fine



If I had a say in the matter I'd have all the Mooorish neighbours jump at them and take them out in 10 turns. This should serve as a warning that if you turn against the pack you get cast out and eaten.

[phonicsmonkey]

man that mongol vanguard is more like a special operation force. those unit stats are sick

I hope they are as effective in practice as on paper - LooseCannon1 seems to have coped with them ok in killing the Khan...

[Mithridate]

barcelona and pamplona once again Moorish as they should be.

The papal states are new friends of moors, and now occupy beneb-al-anab viewing us as trustworthy whilst trade blossom. Their army in france may take up arms to join us, who knows? Our demanded regions are now under moorish influence, but since france still refuse us we are forced to continue waging war.

If the HRE armies comes closer we will be forced to sink or destroy them as we can see no other reason for their presence but to take up arms against us. Should they head east, continued peace will prosper as we shall join with them once this situation have been resolved.

kiev Nightbringer

[Visor]

Save?

[Mithridate]

The save is a lie!!!

*fixed

[slysnake]

The German jeered at the Moor:

"Dear Arab of Iberia, my Kaiser's Empire is a peaceful one, but also one of which does not take lightly it's allied being attacked by a nation who should be crusading against the Mongols in the East. My Kaiser comes bearing a strong message for your King, Caliph, Emperor - whatever you people call your leaders: renounce all claims to French territories and our armies shall march east together to fight the Mongols and the treacherous Fatimids. If you refuse to renounce your claims to these lands, the armies of the Western Roman Empire shall move swiftly through your lands, forcing you into a two-fronted war. In the meantime, the Imperial armies shall remain on your borders, awaiting your decision.

Good day to you!"

[Mithridate]

We have no claims to french territories so that is easily rectified

should you still wish to make war, we are ready for you and your intervention will not open up another front but merely increase the number of dead.

[Nightbringer]

Myth
khwarezmians up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10054

[slysnake]

"When we talk of claims to French lands, we are referring to your motives in your war with France. Let's put it to you bluntly - make peace with France and return any former French territories back to France and no more men shall die. Refuse to do so and, with a heavy heart, my Kaiser will be forced to declare war on your Caliph.."

[Mithridate]

We regret to say that we have already "returned" the only french territory, Tolouse.

All other regions are Iberian, Moorish by right. If you bring your armies against us, all they will find is doom.
The pope have already accepted us as friends, we bid you to do the same.

We hold no desire to invade france and will accept peace should they accept. But we will not give up moorish regions, we will fight for the people to our last breath.

[Thanatos Eclipse]

The problem here is that the people you claim as your own are France's people first! The only claim you have to the lands of Iberia is the lies that spew out of your mouth. Either relinquish such nonsense and accept peace, or come out of the shadows and reveal your true traitorous form, puppet of Khan!