View Full Version : Large Mafia Game With Great Sacrifice [Concluded]
seireikhaan
02-16-2012, 03:10
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It is the forty-fifth day of no rain. My heart sat low as I approached High Priest Tlacaelel’s quarters. I gripped the record in my hand tightly. I saluted the two guards who stood at his doorway. The one on his right extended a hand, and placed it on my shoulder, shaking his head. I understood the meaning, and sat down on the stone floor outside. After a short time, four more guards adorned in jaguar skins exited the room, carrying the unmistakable banner of the emperor. I immediately prostrated myself, waiting for him to pass. After a minute, his rear guard finally began their descent down the steps, and I stood up once more. The guards gestured me in.
Tlacaelel was clearly agitated. He paced back and forth in front of his bed. He noticed me enter, but only gave a cursory nod to acknowledge my presence. I bowed.
“My High Priest,” I started. “It seems that… the gods are still not yet satisfied. The crops continue to fai-“
“I am aware, Quautli. The Emperor is gravely concerned. He is blaming us for the drought. He claims we haven’t shown ourselves to be dutiful enough. Our sacrifices are not sufficient, he claims.”
I wasn’t sure what he meant by this. Was blood not blood? The High Priest sighed.
“He claims that Paynalton approached him last night. The sacrifice of our captives is not glorious enough. Their blood and spirit are not pleasing. He… he said that he demands holier sacrifice. A single, pure sacrifice.”
I tensed. At times, I wished my master would be more direct. Did the Emperor actually order what was being implied?
“The Emperor has ordered us, along with every other priest, several commanders, and the servants, to join him in the lower chambers of the great pyramid. He claims it is there we shall divine who this is. You…” he paused. “You should say goodbye to your wife and child, to be safe. I do not know if he has one person in mind, but there is a chance one of us will be the choice. It would be improper to leave them on no notice. Now… go. We are to meet tomorrow morning. Enjoy the day.”
The guards behind me took me in each arm and ushered me out of the home. This was unbelievable. Was the Emperor mad? Would he lock us in and butcher us until it rained? Yet, there was no alternative. If the gods demanded such, who are we mortals to object?
My last night before the… trial, I will call it, was horrid. My wife does not approve. She feels that we’re being blindly obedient to gods that don’t care for us. In spite of my pleas for her to cease her blasphemous talk, she does not calm down. I spent the night in the main room. I only managed a small amount of sleep when I saw the sun rising with the fallen warriors in the east. With a sigh, I left without waking either of them.
I arrived to the inner sanctum of the pyramid, feeling more apprehensive than a common scribe should be to witness it. I stepped into the main hall, apparently one of the last to arrive. There were a large number of men far more important than me gathered about, sitting around a stone tablet erected in the middle of the square room. It occurred to me I had never been to the sanctum itself. There were far more torches and braziers to illuminate the room, showing the artful decorations. The right wall showed Huitzilopochtli welcoming fallen soldiers to his golden kingdom. The left showed Mictlantecutl laughing as he collected the bones of those who perished less gloriously. The far wall showed Quetzalcoatl flying across the sky, barring the previous two from interacting with the other realms.
I was shaken out of my reverent observation by Tlacaelel, who was standing in the center, side by side with the Emperor.
“Welcome everyone. I will not waste our time with introductions. The Gods are not satisfied with our sacrifice. Our great Emperor was visited by a godly messenger. They demand a single sacrifice, he with the purest spirit. That is why we’ve assembled our best here. We shall divine our single, most pure spirit here, and with their sacrifice, save the rest of us. The matter is graver than any we’ve approached yet. That is why this will be a collective effort. My own judgment has been… in error recently. We will not leave until that one has been found. The pyramid complex has sufficient food and timber reserves to last us until we are successful. If we should need sleep, there are servant’s quarters that we’ve vacated for the time being. I repeat- we are here until we have finished and the gods send rain. We shall start the endeavor now…”
Hello again! Welcome to my current hosting endeavor. I'[ll cut the chatter there and simply explain the minimum. The town consists of the priests and warriors attempting to find the pure sacrifice. The Mafia's motives will not be quite as clear cut. There will be a minimum of roles. The town will have, at it's disposal, at least one doctor, and possibly an investigator of sorts depending on the numbers play out. There will also be one currently unidentified "mystery" town role. The mafia may have additional abilities on top of killing. If I were playing, I would not rule out 3rd party roles. I'm hoping for at least 30, up to 40 players. 40 would be ideal, but I can work with 30. There won't be alt accounts for this game.
General rules stuff:
NO QUOTING HOST'S PMS, NO QUOTING CHATLOGS, NO SCREENSHOTS, NO ALTERNATE ACCOUNTS, AND NO TRANSLATING PM'S-You may claim whatever you want, including role name, so long as you don't quote my PM's word for word, or very close to word for word. You may quote pm's from other players.
The dead cannot reveal anything, including previous night actions, but they may participate as much as they want to contribute to general discussion. The dead also may not communicate outside the thread in any way, shape, or form relating to this game, be it via PM, chat, quicktopic, or other.
I do not allow Vote: No Lynch as an option. Period. You may abstain, however.
If you wish to take back a vote, you CANNOT do it by editing a previous post. I will not count it. Period. You must unvote:GeneralHankerchief in order to recant the previous vote. In order to vote for someone, you must do so in the usual Vote:issaikhaan style. Votes must be bolded, for reference.
WOKs(Wrath of Khaan) will occur if a person does not vote 3 rounds in a row, or if they do not vote in 4 rounds in total. Please, please don't make me do so. It won't be a pretty death.
Suicides will only be allowed in the event of a person being very much unable to participate in the game. I do not allow suicides for any other reason.
No links to anything outside of this thread. Period. I don't care if it pertains to something completely irrelevant.
It would be very helpful for the sake of my sanity if player's kept a tally running.
Please don't mess with the tally! I know sometimes errors happen, but if I determine that anyone deliberately misrepresents the tally for benefit, they will be wok'd.
Voting periods will be 24 hours, though it will likely end up being 36 on a number of occasions depending on scheduling issues.
Any ties in voting will await someone to break it. First vote to either person who is tied will result in lynch, regardless of any posts after it.
Signup Tally: 20
Atheotes
Bsmith
Chaotix
Csargo
Daveshack
Edse
Fluffy
GeneralHankerchief
Ishmael
Jarema
Landlubber
Lazy McCrow
Lewwyn
Montmorency
SalmonSoil
Seon
Visorslash
White eyes
Yaropolk
Zack
Montmorency
02-16-2012, 03:50
The sacrifices have failed? What transgression has caused this?
Some pollution begs not the cloth, but the knife; this I accept and understand.
Sin is sin.
Yaropolk
02-16-2012, 04:10
I feel your pain
landlubber
02-16-2012, 04:14
Playing.
I'll play, even though I'm awful in games with no alignment reveal.
SalmonSoil
02-16-2012, 05:08
Ummm.... uhhhh.... errrr. Indigo is a nice colour?
seireikhaan
02-16-2012, 06:17
Welcome to the .org, SalmonSoil. :2thumbsup:
atheotes
02-16-2012, 06:22
In :bow:
DaveShack
02-16-2012, 08:00
I'll play.
LazyMcCrow
02-16-2012, 09:32
I'd like to play please :2thumbsup:
I'll play, even though I'm awful in games with no alignment reveal.
Is this game wihout aligment reveal? It isnt stated in a opening post.
anyway, IN
Askthepizzaguy
02-16-2012, 11:22
I am not entirely sure, but I think I've failed, badly, in every Khaan-hosted game that I ever signed up for. I think I need to spare myself the embarrassment this time.
White_eyes:D
02-16-2012, 15:13
IN:bow:
I am not entirely sure, but I think I've failed, badly, in every Khaan-hosted game that I ever signed up for. I think I need to spare myself the embarrassment this time. ANd continue the record of failing. Bad Pizzaguy.
And I'm take a crack at this one. Even though I've been woeful in every game to date.
seireikhaan
02-17-2012, 11:10
I am not entirely sure, but I think I've failed, badly, in every Khaan-hosted game that I ever signed up for. I think I need to spare myself the embarrassment this time.
Well, I seem to recall you did pretty darn well in Mongolica. :beam:
Thanks to everyone who's signed up thus far. I'll see what I can do to wrangle up a few more.
Askthepizzaguy
02-17-2012, 14:11
IIRC I asked for Beskar to not be killed immediately and delayed his execution until just before he was going to make me mafia. I can't claim much credit for the win and I nearly joined him in his fate.
But point taken.
GeneralHankerchief
02-19-2012, 07:41
I'm in for this, I think. :smoking:
thefluffyone93
02-19-2012, 19:25
*snores*
Huh, whut?
Mafia?
Uh...sure....
seireikhaan
02-21-2012, 04:50
Giving signups another 36 hours.
seireikhaan
02-23-2012, 06:54
Alright, can't really give this any more time. Starting to send out role pms now.
seireikhaan
02-23-2012, 21:01
Apologies for the delay, got caught up. PMs should be out within the hour.
seireikhaan
02-23-2012, 22:02
And we are good to go. Everyone should have a pm a this point. The game is starting with a lynch. This will be 36 hours. Good luck everyone.
vote: Atheotes
First vote for the first on the list.
(cue a vote for me next...)
thefluffyone93
02-23-2012, 22:53
Vote: Chaotix
Haven't done this in some time...
Vote:Bsmith (first one to vote)
Vote: thefluffyone
This should be a no-brainer.
Montmorency
02-24-2012, 00:20
Vote: Arjos
landlubber
02-24-2012, 01:44
Vote: Askthepizzaguy.
GeneralHankerchief
02-24-2012, 03:12
Vote:GH
Hi ~:wave:
I DECLARE BLOOD FEUD.
Vote: DaveShack
atheotes
02-24-2012, 03:56
vote: Atheotes
First vote for the first on the list.
(cue a vote for me next...)
grantng your wish....
Vote: BSmith
vote: Lazy McCrow
Blame the RNG
LazyMcCrow
02-24-2012, 10:34
vote: Ishmael (blame it on the boogie)
vote: Ishmael (blame it on the boogie)
Considering the setting, surely we should blame it on the sunshine and moonlight. :beam:
Vote: Ishmael
Blame Hitler.
SalmonSoil
02-24-2012, 23:34
Vote: Czargo
Just trying to spread the love a bit
Vote: Czargo
Just trying to spread the love a bit
I wuv you too!
thefluffyone93
02-25-2012, 06:30
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Yaropolk
02-25-2012, 18:39
We're trying to hunt down the faithless heathens among us right?
This is a no brainer:
Vote: Atheotes
Done deal!
Vote: Zack
He's acting like a townie! That means that he's scum!
seireikhaan
02-27-2012, 02:54
My apologies for the delay, was out of town for the weekend. Will have the lynch posted asap.
White_eyes:D
02-27-2012, 04:01
Sorry I missed first-round voting...won't happen next round.:bow:
seireikhaan
02-27-2012, 04:32
We established a ring around the center altar. The high priest led the initial examination. Each member present was given to the crowd, one by one. After a brief discussion, each person was then let to sit down so that the next might be examined. After the process was finished, and Tlacalael and the crowd were satisfied, the group began to lay their observations forth. It turned out to be highly fragmented. There was little agreement that could be found, beyond that nobody was totally sure of who the gods desired. As the day stretched on, a scout came from the door. The sun was setting outside. It appeared we were taking longer than ideal. With that, Tlacalael called forth everyone to make their final analysis. By a narrow margin, the choice of the group was Atheotes. He walked up without batting an eye. he offered himself to the altar, laying on his back, chest bared to the ceiling. Our High Priest chanted to the gods, as they watched from the three walls, their gaze seeming to be steeling at us all. Atheotes did not cry or weep as the sacred knife was plunged into his chest. Tlacalael sliced it apart with the precision years of practice brings, and lifted the heart to us all. Atheotes fell limp on the now bloodied altar. After finishing the ritual, Tlacalael rested the heart next to its former host.
"My friends. We have exerted ourselves today and offered the gods our pure sacrifice. Let us retire to the old servant's chambers. Pray that our sacrifice was pleasing, and that the gods will offer us the blessing of rain by the time we have awaken. Sleep well."
Please send in Night Orders. I would like this phase to be 24 hours.
Tally:
Atheotes 3 (Bsmith, Visorslash, Yaropolk)
Bsmith 2 (Jarema, Atheotes)
Ishmael 2 (Zack, Lazy McCrow)
Chaotix 1 (Fluffy)
Fluffy 1 (Chaotix)
GH 1 (Csargo)
Arjos 1 (Monty)
Landlubber 1 (Lewwyn)
Daveshack 1 (GH)
Lazy McCrow 1 (Ishmael)
Monty 1 (Edse)
Csargo 1 (SalmonSoil)
Zack 1 (Seon)
Alive:
Bsmith
Chaotix
Csargo
Daveshack
Edse
Fluffy
GeneralHankerchief
Ishmael
Jarema
Landlubber
Lazy McCrow
Lewwyn
Montmorency
SalmonSoil
Seon
Visorslash
White eyes
Yaropolk
Zack
Lynched:
Atheotes (D1)
atheotes
02-27-2012, 09:13
I could have forced a tie...but would have been lynched anyway. :end:
GeneralHankerchief
02-27-2012, 09:44
Should've forced it anyway. It gives us more data to go off of in the endgame. Plus, the whole thing about it being your duty as a townie to try to stay alive as long as you can and all that. :tongue:
Plus, the whole thing about it being your duty as a townie to try to stay alive as long as you can and all that. :tongue:
Heh, I remember trying to use that argument once to justify tying the vote. Didn't end well. :no:
GeneralHankerchief
02-27-2012, 10:09
They didn't have me there to yell at them for poor arguments, that's why.
atheotes
02-27-2012, 12:01
Should've forced it anyway. It gives us more data to go off of in the endgame. Plus, the whole thing about it being your duty as a townie to try to stay alive as long as you can and all that. :tongue:
True enough. Normally i would agree with you. I could have generated more discussion. But here i would just need one vote.
In the off chance that i survived this round, i would be nothing more than lynch bait and look like scum. Now i dont :juggle2:
autolycus
02-28-2012, 03:22
Shoot, just realized I didn't sign up for this. Put me down for reserve :)
seireikhaan
02-28-2012, 08:39
Alright, orders finished. Writeup will be posted soon.
seireikhaan
02-28-2012, 09:23
My quarters were shared with a few strangers. I confess I did not sleep. Worry eats at me easily. So I sat and dwelt on the matter at hand, which only caused my worry to increase further. It was possibly an even longer night than the previous at home. The mats on which we were supposed to sleep were not comfortable by any means, particularly compared to the relatively luxury in which I lived at home. Eventually, one of the soldiers entered the room. He informed us that daylight broke, and the gods were still not pleased with us. I stood up and immediately felt woozy. I vowed the next night to better myself and sleep. We entered back into the main chamber, where Tlacalael and the Emperor awaited us.
"My friends, it seems we have failed once more. The gods have not blessed us with rain to satisfy our crops. We must re-examine each other, and find the purest one. It is up to us to save the city from sure disaster! Now, let us begin once more...."
BEGIN DAY 2. YOU HAVE 36 HOURS.
Alive:
Bsmith
Chaotix
Csargo
Daveshack
Edse
Fluffy
GeneralHankerchief
Ishmael
Jarema
Landlubber
Lazy McCrow
Lewwyn
Montmorency
SalmonSoil
Seon
Visorslash
White eyes
Yaropolk
Zack
Lynched:
Atheotes (D1)
I have re-examined everyone.
Vote: Atheotes
Vote: atheotes That's a good choice.
seireikhaan
02-28-2012, 12:48
:stare:
The dead may not be lynched.
Montmorency
02-28-2012, 12:48
Vote: Atheotes
Third on wagon!
Montmorency
02-28-2012, 12:50
Unvote; Vote: Visorslash for blasphemy
Montmorency
02-28-2012, 12:55
What are the odds of us being on a scum team in two separate, simultaneous games?
Not that low. Simeultaneous means nothing. What are the odds of me ever getting another mafia role? 0.
Unvote: Vote: Montmorency Third on the joke wagon, perfect cover for a mafia.
Unvote: Vote: Montmorency Third on the joke wagon, perfect cover for a mafia.
Vote: edse Second on the joke wagon and quick to jump on the third on the joke wagon, perfect cover for a mafia x2.
Vote: edse Second on the joke wagon and quick to jump on the third on the joke wagon, perfect cover for a mafia x2.
Vote: Lewwyn
Third on the third on the bandwagon bandwagon, perfect cover for a perfect cover for a mafia mafia.
Third on the third on the bandwagon bandwagon, perfect cover for a perfect cover for a mafia mafia.
That doesn't even make sense...
That doesn't even make sense...
Do not defend yourself so desperately!
Vote: Lewwyn
DaveShack
02-28-2012, 18:47
My head hurts.
Hangover, eh? The mystic drink is reserved for the priesthood. Vote: BSmith
thefluffyone93
02-28-2012, 20:34
Vote: Lewwyn
Third on the third on the bandwagon bandwagon, perfect cover for a perfect cover for a mafia mafia.
That makes so little sense it has to be right!
Vote: Lewwyn
White_eyes:D
02-29-2012, 00:47
Vote: Lewwyn
Third on the third on the bandwagon bandwagon, perfect cover for a perfect cover for a mafia mafia.
Vote:Chaotix not even going to try and wrap my head around that one...:dizzy:
SalmonSoil
02-29-2012, 02:12
Hangover, eh? The mystic drink is reserved for the priesthood. Vote: BSmith
For obvious reasons, you must be lynched.
Vote: DaveShack
vote: Lazy McCrow, because I haven't seen much of you this game, and because I'll leave that crazy mangled mess of logic above to other people.
For obvious reasons, you must be lynched.
Vote: SalmonSoil
LazyMcCrow
02-29-2012, 11:17
vote: Lazy McCrow, because I haven't seen much of you this game, and because I'll leave that crazy mangled mess of logic above to other people.
Here I am! For obvious reasons vote: zaccino trying to fool us by adding milk to yourself hmm? sprinkling yourself with chocolate powder to evade detection eh? You are obviously the purest of us and will therefore end the drout with your deliciously sweet thirst-quenching abilities.
So, I'm a normal villager/innocent whatever we are since I didn't get a PM, but it looks like I'm getting lynched because Chaotix is an idiot and the games on these forums are always about hammering the nail that sticks out. It's past midnight my time and I can't stay up. And since noone ever posts anything worthwhile and no ones PMed me to join a block I assume I'm dead. But, I can pass the buck by tying the vote I suppose.
Unvote; Vote:SalmonSoil
Honestly I don't see the obvious reasons, but I will say for my fellow villagers watch out for BSmith, Jarema and edse. BSmith helped lynch Atheotes and then started trying to lynch others who voted to lynch Atheotes. I find it suspicious. Second edse for reasons I initially voted for him. Third Jarema because I wasn't defending myself earlier only noting that Chaotix is an idiot, which I've known for ages.
Peace.
vote: Yaropolk
Hi.
Vote:BSmith
Honestly I don't see the obvious reasons, but I will say for my fellow villagers watch out for BSmith, Jarema and edse. BSmith helped lynch Atheotes and then started trying to lynch others who voted to lynch Atheotes. I find it suspicious.
I was the first to vote yesterday, let alone the first to vote for Atheotes. I don’t think you can look much further than that. And it is not like I was going to unvote him when I was tied for the lead.
As for why I am voting for Yaropolk today: When he voted it was a three way tie between myself, Atheotes and Ishmael. He voted at the end of the day when there was not much time to react, and tipped the scales to get Atheotes lynched. The timing of the vote and the fact that he could have been saving Ishmael is enough to at least warrant a closer look at him.
Yaropolk
02-29-2012, 20:45
I was the first to vote yesterday, let alone the first to vote for Atheotes. I don’t think you can look much further than that. And it is not like I was going to unvote him when I was tied for the lead.
As for why I am voting for Yaropolk today: When he voted it was a three way tie between myself, Atheotes and Ishmael. He voted at the end of the day when there was not much time to react, and tipped the scales to get Atheotes lynched. The timing of the vote and the fact that he could have been saving Ishmael is enough to at least warrant a closer look at him.
We're looking for a killer who is against the gods right? A-theotes - no gods in Greek, the plan was brilliant! I'm sure it was the right choice!
vote: Salmonsoil
seireikhaan
02-29-2012, 23:22
Not nearly enough participation. Round is extended 12 hours. Everyone please vote, or I'm going to go into angry irrational host mode.
GeneralHankerchief
02-29-2012, 23:24
Vote: edse
In that entire ridiculous sequence in the start of the round, edse's was perfectly-placed in that he continued to draw it out after the joke was passed before the general consensus became that people went overboard with it. Make sense to you? Good, now explain it to me. My vote stands nonetheless.
Vote: edse
In that entire ridiculous sequence in the start of the round, edse's was perfectly-placed in that he continued to draw it out after the joke was passed before the general consensus became that people went overboard with it. Make sense to you? Good, now explain it to me. My vote stands nonetheless.
My vote was not a joke vote although I believe the ones following were. If you as mafia see a wagon on an already lynched player, wouldn't you want to become the "third on the bandwagon" so that you can say "Hey, I'm third on the wagon" as a joke and get a more townie look?
Yaropolk
03-01-2012, 01:21
I've voted for dead people in the past by mistake, so I can understand Visorslash's lazy vote. However you jumped in right behind him and voted for dead Atheotes as well. To me that screams - I don't care who I lynch as long as I can get a bandwagon rolling.
SalmonSoil
03-01-2012, 01:55
Holy crap how did I get so many votes. What did I do? Lewwyn's vote I understand, Zaccinos I don't. Maybe he misinterpreted my joke as being serious? I was implying Daveshack must be lynched for trying to keep us off the booze. Clearly a joke. Visorslash and Yaropolk don't seem to have any reason. Maybe they just threw the dice.
Unvote; Vote Lewwyn
Sorry man, just trying to tie the vote.
I've voted for dead people in the past by mistake, so I can understand Visorslash's lazy vote. However you jumped in right behind him and voted for dead Atheotes as well. To me that screams - I don't care who I lynch as long as I can get a bandwagon rolling.
I didn't vote for Atheotes by mistake. It was a joke vote, as no one had died.
Zaccinos I don't. Maybe he misinterpreted my joke as being serious?
Oh, the irony.
Oh, the irony.
Is it ok if I blatantly refuse to call you Zaccino?
Is it ok if I blatantly refuse to call you Zaccino?
Only if I can blatantly refuse to call you anything besides "Chatoix".
Only if I can blatantly refuse to call you anything besides "Chatoix".
As long as you don't misspell it.
BTW, are you my father by any chance?
Not nearly enough participation. Round is extended 12 hours. Everyone please vote, or I'm going to go into angry irrational host mode.
Thanks for this. Noone has been posting anything of any real value.
Vote: edse
In that entire ridiculous sequence in the start of the round, edse's was perfectly-placed in that he continued to draw it out after the joke was passed before the general consensus became that people went overboard with it. Make sense to you? Good, now explain it to me. My vote stands nonetheless.
My vote was not a joke vote although I believe the ones following were. If you as mafia see a wagon on an already lynched player, wouldn't you want to become the "third on the bandwagon" so that you can say "Hey, I'm third on the wagon" as a joke and get a more townie look?
Totally agree. Edse has the most suspicious action of the ay in my eyes. If I didn't have to vote for Salmon to save myself I'd vote for edse. If anyone else would like to help by voting for edse I would switch off Salmon.
Holy crap how did I get so many votes. What did I do? Lewwyn's vote I understand, Zaccinos I don't. Maybe he misinterpreted my joke as being serious? I was implying Daveshack must be lynched for trying to keep us off the booze. Clearly a joke. Visorslash and Yaropolk don't seem to have any reason. Maybe they just threw the dice.
Unvote; Vote Lewwyn
Sorry man, just trying to tie the vote.
Understood. For me you are an unknown entity. I'm not sure if you're innocent or scum. I don't know that you are suspicious or not, but you had the most votes besides me. Again I think edse is the most suspicious at the moment and would be willing to switch off you if enough people voted for him/stopped voting for me.
Eenie meenie minie Moe/
Vote: Daveshack
GeneralHankerchief
03-01-2012, 08:18
Eenie meenie minie Moe/
Vote: Daveshack
What's your opinion on the Lewwyn/edse/SalmonSoil situation?
LazyMcCrow
03-01-2012, 10:33
unvote - vote: Seon
I've voted for dead people in the past by mistake, so I can understand Visorslash's lazy vote. However you jumped in right behind him and voted for dead Atheotes as well. To me that screams - I don't care who I lynch as long as I can get a bandwagon rolling.
Makes sense.
Unvote; vote: Edse
I've voted for dead people in the past by mistake, so I can understand Visorslash's lazy vote. However you jumped in right behind him and voted for dead Atheotes as well. To me that screams - I don't care who I lynch as long as I can get a bandwagon rolling.
That's exactly why I voted him, to get a bandwagon rolling and see what the next one would do. Visorslash made a joke vote, I did a joke vote and Montmorency made a joke vote to be the third on the wagon.
Totally agree. Edse has the most suspicious action of the ay in my eyes. If I didn't have to vote for Salmon to save myself I'd vote for edse. If anyone else would like to help by voting for edse I would switch off Salmon.
So, I'm a normal villager/innocent whatever we are since I didn't get a PM, but it looks like I'm getting lynched because Chaotix is an idiot and the games on these forums are always about hammering the nail that sticks out. It's past midnight my time and I can't stay up. And since noone ever posts anything worthwhile and no ones PMed me to join a block I assume I'm dead. But, I can pass the buck by tying the vote I suppose.
The ones trying to do something are always the ones who stick out. They are the ones most likely to be town however since the mafia avoid pointing fingers.
4 Salmonsoil: Visorslash, Zaccino, Lewwyn, Yaropolk
3 Lewwyn: Chaotix, thefluffyone93, Salmonsoil
2 edse: GeneralHankerchief, Jarema
2 BSmith: DaveShack, Csargo
1 Montmorency: edse
1 Yaropolk: BSmith
1 Visorslash: Montmorency
1 Chaotix: White_eyes:D
1 DaveShack: Seon
1 LazyMcCrow: Ishmael
1 Seon: LazyMcCrow
1 No vote: landlubber
thefluffyone93
03-01-2012, 18:18
Blarg.
There.
I participated.
Now LYNCH ME.
I EAT PAIN.
seireikhaan
03-01-2012, 19:01
Round's over. Lynch will be posted soon.
seireikhaan
03-02-2012, 00:26
High Priest Tlacalael initiated the examination once more under the watchful gaze of the Emperor. The Emperor's gaze soon turned to the group as a whole, as a few of the gathered suggested that there was no possibly way the previous choice could be wrong. The idea seemed to not amuse him. Without so much as a word, his stern look cowed the few protesters into submission. The examination became more focused than previously, leading to, at least, a couple leading candidates. It was close, but when the scout returned to inform us the sun was setting, the choice was SalmonSoil. He calmly requested a second tally to ensure we were not mistaken. Tlacalael looked questioningly at the Emperor, who nodded. The second check resulted in the same result. Shaking slightly, SalmonSoil approached the center altar. The Emperor and Tlacalael welcomed him with open arms. SalmonSoil was muttering to himself at a frantic pace, visibly panicked. Still, possibly out of duty, he laid himself on the altar. The High Priest raised the sacred knife high. SalmonSoil screamed as the knife plunged into his chest. In spite of the thrashing, Tlacalael expertly removed the heart in a timely manner, raising it before us.
"My friends, today we have once more offered the gods a gift of blood and purity. May they accept it as a sign of our greatest devotion, and give us their blessings in return. May our flesh and blood offer them sustenance." With his simple offer complete, Tlacalael rested the heart back on the altar. "It is time for us to rest and regain our composure. Pray tonight that our sacrifice was proper. Sleep well."
NIGHT TWO HAS BEGUN. PLEASE SEND ORDERS. I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE 24 HOURS.
Alive:
Bsmith
Chaotix
Csargo
Daveshack
Edse
Fluffy
GeneralHankerchief
Ishmael
Jarema
Landlubber
Lazy McCrow
Lewwyn
Montmorency
Seon
Visorslash
White eyes
Yaropolk
Zack
Lynched:
Atheotes (D1)
SalmonSoil (D2)
seireikhaan
03-02-2012, 21:45
Just a reminder that orders are due in a couple hours.
Landlubber is mafia? Wow. Tha's gotta suck.
Montmorency
03-02-2012, 23:27
I'm pretty sure half the players could be implicated, by that criterion.
Possibly, but in my mind, all the others are somewhat active. Landlubber recently has gone AWOL, as we saw in Yakuza.
seireikhaan
03-02-2012, 23:59
Mkay, night's ended, writeup in progress.
seireikhaan
03-03-2012, 01:28
Yaropolk was awaiting the sun with anticipation. He sat on the mat in his quarter, tapping a finger against the wall to a rhythm of his own creation. The room was lit only by a single brazier in the corner, which creating a shadow across much of it. The gentle rhythm of his tapping was interrupted by the sound of footsteps. Yaropolk halted for a moment to make sure he was hearing properly. Sure enough, the faint steps in the stone hallway halted directly outside the frame to his room. The curtain was pushed aside by a man with a jaguar skin draped across his shoulders. Each hand gripped an obsidian club. Eyes flared with rage at seeing Yaropolk.
“He has decreed! Die heathen!” The intruder leaped forth with almost unnatural grace, clubs raised to smite his foe. Yaropolk, to his credit, looked merely annoyed. The twin clubs smashed down on his skull at the same time, twisting it to the side with a sickening crack. Yaropolk slumped down. The attacker grinned at its victory. Then, beyond all reason, Yaropolk sighed. His neck twisted and creaked back into its natural shape. He looked at the attacker with pure annoyance. With a crack, Yaropolk disappeared, replaced by a hunched, skull-faced figure.
“How irritating. Oh well… I will see you later, fool.” With another crack, the figure vanished before the intruder’s eyes.
For Seon, the night was young. He was helping himself to a small stash he’d discovered hidden in his quarters. The previous occupant had apparently been forced out before being able to collect the spirits. Not a tragedy, as far as Seon was concerned. Unfortunately, in his inebriated state, as he sang to himself, he did not hear the footsteps outside the curtain. When a short, stout figure pushed it aside to find him, he was altogether too jolly to notice his guest’s spear. He offered the clay goblet to the intruder, who simply shook his head austerely. With a single, quick thrust, the intruder impaled Seon straight through his chest. He withdrew it just as fast. He shook his head one last time as Seon gurgled out his last moments. The intruder wiped the blood dripping from his weapon on the curtain as he left his quarry to die.
A tall, lean figure pushed aside a brightly decorated curtain. He wore nothing fancy, just tan tunic with an undecorated leather cloak. A javelin hung down from his right hand as he looked down at his snoozing target. Csargo, unlike so many others, was actually taking advantage of the downtime. A small grin appeared on the visitor’s face. He hefted the javelin up, and rammed it straight into the middle of Csargo’s exposed back. Csargo jerked up and spun around. He narrowed his gaze at the intruder, then rolled his eyes. He reached behind himself, and yanked out the javelin. “Figures,” he muttered to himself. “I suppose luck was not on my side this time. I’ll show them, though.” He looked down at the javelin. “You’ll need more than this if you’re going to win, boy.” With a flash, Csargo transformed into a great feathered serpent, jaws clenched around the weapon. With seemingly no effort, it splintered the weapon and vanished.
When I arrived the next morning, there was a great stirring amongst those gathered. I approached High Priest Tlacalael. "High Priest.... it seems that everyone is more anxious than previously. Has something happpened?" He turned to me with a stern gaze.
"It seems that someone or someones has decided that we are in error. Two people went missing last night, and Seon was discovered butchered in his quarters. We must continue with our efforts, however. Our sacrifices thus far must not be in vain. Our course is clear; we must still find the purest sacrifice. When the gods at last accept our sacrifice and give us rain, this small, side problem shall solve itself. Now, are you ready to keep today's record?"
Day 3 has begun! You have 36 hours.
Alive:
Bsmith
Chaotix
Daveshack
Edse
Fluffy
GeneralHankerchief
Ishmael
Jarema
Landlubber
Lazy McCrow
Lewwyn
Montmorency
Visorslash
White eyes
Zack
Lynched:
Atheotes (D1)
SalmonSoil (D2)
Attacked:
Seon (N2)
Yaropolk (N2)
Csargo (N2)
Montmorency
03-03-2012, 01:45
So there's a twist to it; Pizza anticipated this.
:shrug:
interesting.
it seems almost as if we had lost one town power role, and that SK (or someone similar) was killed.
Montmorency
03-03-2012, 15:24
Wait, so what's behind these votes?
My vote is based on how I felt yesterday, and I haven't seen anything to push me in any other direction at present. Edse is still tops on my suspicion list. I have a couple other people I'm waiting to see how they vote. But... we really need more people to chime in. This game has been a wasteland of talk and today has been even worse. It does not bode well.
DaveShack
03-03-2012, 18:01
I interpret the writeup as:
SK tried to kill Yaropolk. Don't know what the manner of Yaropolk's survival means.
Mafia killed Seon, and tried to kill Csargo. Again, don't know how Csargo survived or what that means.
The writeup implies both Yaropolk and Csargo "knew" they would survive, unless that's just flavor.
Montmorency
03-03-2012, 18:07
But they're not on the "Living" list.
:inquisitive:
DaveShack
03-03-2012, 19:01
So the "survival" is just flavor, and they're really gone? Love the ambiguity. :shrug:
If they're gone, we have a big zero. My suspect was going to be Yaropolk, though the evidence was merely having voted for both lynches.
GeneralHankerchief
03-03-2012, 19:19
Vote: Jarema
Placeholder vote. Won't have enough time to needle people this phase.
LazyMcCrow
03-03-2012, 19:56
Reads to me like Yaropolk may have been a mafia killed by an SK. Not much in the thread to indicate who may look more innocent/guilty if that were the case. I've had a big problem with GeneralHankerchief's super-townie posts, but I don't know his playing style and that may just mean he IS a super townie. But anyway, the exchange with Atheotes after the first day indicates a high degree of confidence that he will get to the endgame. Nothing else tingling my spideys right now so vote: GeneralHankerchief
Montmorency
03-03-2012, 19:59
Reads to me like Yaropolk may have been a mafia killed by an SK. Not much in the thread to indicate who may look more innocent/guilty if that were the case. I've had a big problem with GeneralHankerchief's super-townie posts, but I don't know his playing style and that may just mean he IS a super townie. But anyway, the exchange with Atheotes after the first day indicates a high degree of confidence that he will get to the endgame. Nothing else tingling my spideys right now so vote: GeneralHankerchief
Then what about Csargo? 2 SKs killed two mafiosos? No whey, Mr. Ney.
GH is the godfather of Mafia in the Org.
And according to this pattern, someone should claim you are suspicious and vote you, and so on until we have a repeat of D1 and 2.
Montmorency
03-03-2012, 20:05
Let me synposize the dilemma: our stated objectivecoming into this was to lynch the "purest" individual and please the gods.
On N1 there were no kills.
On N2, there were 3 kills, and 2 of them were written in a very unusual manner.
In each of these kills, the killer was written in a way that almost makes it seem like the same guy did the killing.
Despite the sudden onset of kills, our stated objective has not changed.
...
Have we learned nothing from Pizza's game? Things are not as they appear.
A note: in the previous large game (Buffy 2) there was a mafioso who could kill 3 players a night. Just saying.
I actually agree with Lazy here - GH is seeming a bit too friendly and helpful a townie, more so than in the (admittedly few) other games I've played with him. I'm not sold on edse, who I think was just making a regular groundless day 1 lynch, and so for want of anyone better:
vote: General Hankerchief
Montmorency
03-03-2012, 20:43
What I'm trying to get across: Who are we lynching, and for what?
I get the feeling we're all just here to die.
It's a trap! We're all to be sacrificed!
Hmm, you have a point Montmorency - we're trying to lynch the person with the 'pure soul,' but I have no idea how the mafia/serial killer fits into that. It could conceivably be that the pure person is a one-man mafia team, with multiple kills and whatnot, but it seems a bit unbalanced if the town can win with a single lucky lynch.
White_eyes:D
03-04-2012, 01:01
Hmm, you have a point Montmorency - we're trying to lynch the person with the 'pure soul,' but I have no idea how the mafia/serial killer fits into that. It could conceivably be that the pure person is a one-man mafia team, with multiple kills and whatnot, but it seems a bit unbalanced if the town can win with a single lucky lynch.
Some of Khaan's games only featured 2 mafia in a game of thirty. There even was one where they had to lynch each other and recruit a new scum-buddy who didn't really count and the main mafia could still be lynched and lose. I wouldn't rule out the "one man mafia team" theory but it is a bit of a stretch. Need more people to start posting votes here.
Vote:Csargo
Montmorency
03-04-2012, 01:18
I see that you are voting for one of the "missing".
I mentioned earlier that he and Yaro do not show up on the "Living" list.
Consider that Seon was quite clearly killed, yet his status does not seem to differ from theirs.
I have however been pondering the question of this twist and your post made me think: what if they really aren't dead? The emperor or whatever labeled them "missing" in the writeup, so maybe they could reappear later?
With a crack, Yaropolk disappeared, replaced by a hunched, skull-faced figure.
“How irritating. Oh well… I will see you later, fool.” With another crack, the figure vanished before the intruder’s eyes.
Vote: Montmorency
Seems very talkative, almost too talkative to me.
Montmorency
03-04-2012, 01:22
Have I hit too close to the mark?
:snobby:
seireikhaan
03-04-2012, 01:42
Just a reminder that there's about 12 hours left. Please talk and stuff.
Yaropolk
03-04-2012, 01:58
Vote: Montmorency
Seems very talkative, almost too talkative to me.
Grrrrrr......vote: Chaotix. You know why
This is indeed a disturbing universe.
Unvote
Yaropolk?
Montmorency
03-04-2012, 02:17
Khan, can you at least clarify the voting privileges Yaropolk and Csargo have ATM?
My thoughts:
Either both Yaro and Csargo have both died, and are either characters who will come back later in the game, or are characters who can't actually die (the role itself if you know what I mean, they are out of the game but the 'role' isn't killed) Certainly the fact that Yaro is voting is interesting.
Monty is always talkative generally Chaotix. :stare:
Regardless, 3 kills a night is not so unusual. A special power that can kill certain things, etc activating, + plus mafia and sk or vig kill, or even any combination of those. There are probably other ways for them to die too.
A one man mafia team is a serial killer. If we need to find the pure sacrifice, then it is bound to be a serial killer, one of many maybe?
Either way, Vote: Chaotix seems find to me.
Some of Khaan's games only featured 2 mafia in a game of thirty. There even was one where they had to lynch each other and recruit a new scum-buddy who didn't really count and the main mafia could still be lynched and lose. I wouldn't rule out the "one man mafia team" theory but it is a bit of a stretch. Need more people to start posting votes here.
Vote:Csargo
Hi! If you want to waste your vote on me that's fine, but it would probably be better placed somewhere else.
So, Csargo - are you dead or what?
So, Csargo - are you dead or what?
Good question. I'm probably not the person you should be asking.
DaveShack
03-04-2012, 05:10
Vote: Chaotix
Must vote for someone, and can't be sure I'll be online again during this phase.
Csargo, Yaropolk - maybe you can shed some light on your 'deaths'?
Maybe this is time for some roleclaiming (if it is not forbidden for you).
For now, vote: Chaotix. Voting for a player who tries to discuss things (Monty) is not good.
2 -GH (Lazy McCrow, Ishmael)
2 - Montmorency (edse, Chaotix)
2(3?) - Chaotix (Visorslash, DaveShack, Yarolpolk?)
1 - Jarema (GH)
1 - edse (Lewwyn)
1? - CSargo (WhiteEyes)
Not Voting: BSmith, Fluffy, Jarema, landlubber, Zack
And that's all we got. I believe that the tiebreaker goes lynch the first person that reached the votes at the tie. So GH is currently the lynch unless Yaro actually gets to vote, which judging by him not in the living list, I'd say not.
I'm not really impressed with the voting here. 5 not voting with 5 hours to go. Feels like a lot of people just hiding. :wall:
Unvote: Vote Jarema Jarema posted at the beginning of the day, but didn't vote and hasn't posted since. What are you hiding? You cast a throwaway bandwagon vote on my yesterday and have done nothing to indicate a position to this point. My vote on edse isn't gaining much traction, but at least edse has voted today.
Crosspost...
Jarema's vote puts Chaotix on top with 3.
Unvote
Dude, I kind of don't feel like dying Day 2.
I made a lazy vote. Thanks for jumping me on it.
Unvote, Vote: GH
Not sure if that counts. If it does, nothing personal.
GeneralHankerchief
03-04-2012, 09:28
You see, this is the problem with mafia these days.
"Oh, look at GH, he's being a productive townie. I don't rtrust him. He ccould potentially be leading the town int o despair and doom and destrcution and devatsatation and death. We should probably just lynch hi m to be totally and absolutely safe."
See, here's the thing guys, when you automatically lynch the people that are actually accusing people and bringing evidence to light, just because they are doing so, the town suffers. Yeah, it does, shockingy. Paranoia rules the day. And the result is that all the lurkers stay alive becasue they didn't do anyting to arouse suspicion. And then in the endgame, the most inportant rounds of all, it's all lurkers left and there's absolutely nothing to deiffierentiate all the lurkers from each other and mafia, a agame of detective work, b ecome s instead a game of chance. Well, I don't want to play a game of chance. That's not mafia. If I wanted to I'd just go to the nearest casino and drop however much money on craps or roulette or blackjack or something similar and watch it evaporate in a matter of minutes. No, I want to play mafia. So how about we play some mafia, eh?
Unvote: Jarema
Vote: Chaotix
GeneralHankerchief
03-04-2012, 09:31
And yeah, that was totally a self-preservstition vote with no other reasonn. I'll do more good work when it's not my birthday weekend.
BSmith, you were online before. :stare:
Dude, I kind of don't feel like dying Day 2.
I made a lazy vote. Thanks for jumping me on it.
So is that two lazy votes in a row in two days?
Vote: Chaotix
If I have to choose between GH or Chaotix...
GH and Lewwyn, anybody? :stare:
LazyMcCrow
03-04-2012, 10:44
You see, this is the problem with mafia these days....
So how about we play some mafia, eh?
Unvote: Jarema
Vote: Chaotix
Well - let's see what happens then.
unvote:GeneralHankerchief
Vote: visorslash
GH and Lewwyn, anybody? :stare:
Yup. I noticed it too. Two things here. We shared a mutual distrust of edse yesterday and he's at least trying to help more than Chaotix. Helpful scum is helpful? I doubt it. And again if I had to pick between GH and Chaotix I'd vote to lynch Chaotix.
5(6) Chaotix: (Yaropolk), Visorslash, DaveShack, Jarema, GeneralHankerchief, Lewwyn
2 GeneralHankerchief: Ishmael, Chaotix
1 Montmorency: edse
1 Visorslash: LazyMcCrow
(1 Csargo: White_eyes:D,)
4 Not Voting: BSmith, Fluffy, landlubber, Zaccino
Helpful scum is helpful? I doubt it.
:stare:
FoS: Lewwyn
Csargo, Yaropolk - maybe you can shed some light on your 'deaths'?
Maybe this is time for some roleclaiming (if it is not forbidden for you).
For now, vote: Chaotix. Voting for a player who tries to discuss things (Monty) is not good.
Sorry, that's classified information.
So is that two lazy votes in a row in two days?
Vote: Chaotix
If I have to choose between GH or Chaotix...
Scumbag.
Visor's definitely right. There's something up between you two.
Unvote, Vote: Lewwyn
So eager to put a nice 5th vote on me while I'm already in the lead. I don't care if I get lynched now- there's something up and you two need to be brought under scrutiny.
Montmorency
03-04-2012, 18:30
Didn't the round end 5 hours ago?
seireikhaan
03-04-2012, 20:22
Writeup in progress.
Didn't the round end 5 hours ago?
Apparently.
Bummer that I'm dead.
Do be careful of those who voted me, though. I made a last-ditch survival attempt, but there's no doubting there was something scummy behind this lynch. Townies only bandwagon a lazy voter when there's absolutely no discussion going on.
seireikhaan
03-04-2012, 21:31
As we gathered this time, the examination took on a decidedly more urgent tone. When Chaotix was accused of not taking our task seriously enough, a number of the priests offered the suggestion that we offer him as sacrifice. Tlacalael frowned at the suggestion. We were trying to find the purest soul, not a lazy one. Yet, we had committed to our process. As well, the soul was a truly complex device. Perhaps there was more at work than we were observing at the current time? In the end, a sufficiently large number were convinced that our goals would be advanced with his sacrifice, and he was led up to the altar to our High Priest and Emperor.
“This is not wise, you must see this?” Chaotix begged to Tlacalael. “I am not the one you seek. I am not pure in any way! Look at me trying to plead myself out of this! It must surely be one of them!” Tlacalael simply shook his head and gestured down to the blood-stained altar. Chaotix turned to the emperor and prostrated himself before him. “My emperor, lord, please spare me! I am a lowly individual, not worthy of the honor of sacrifice. Please, convince your honored servant to alter this course!”
“No. The course is set. Lay down on the altar, and accept the caress of the divine.” With the final order from the Emperor, Chaotix laid down on the altar, chest bared to the stone roof. Tlacalael plunged the ceremonial knife down, and quickly peeled the chest apart to find the beating heart.
“My friends,” Tlacalael addressed us, holding the beating heart aloft. “May the gods accept our sacrifice of blood and flesh. We offer our blood so that they might see our dedication. We pray that it is pleasing to them.” With a deep breath, the High Priest set the heart down, and simply gestured to the hallways in the directions of the quarters to indicate we were finished.
IT IS NOW NIGHT THREE. PLEASE SEND IN ORDERS. 24 HOURS AS USUAL.
Alive:
Bsmith
Daveshack
Edse
Fluffy
GeneralHankerchief
Landlubber
Lazy McCrow
Lewwyn
Montmorency
Visorslash
White eyes
Zack
Lynched:
Atheotes (D1)
SalmonSoil (D2)
Chaotix (D3)
Attacked:
Seon (N2)
Yaropolk (N2)
Csargo (N2)
Ishmael (N3)
Jarema (N3)
White_eyes:D
03-04-2012, 22:04
Great...I voted for what looks like a dead guy. :shame: Working under the impression that "attacked" means dead, we well know in three or so rounds by the WoK if it isn't.
Heh pretty cool man. Update pls
BSmith, you were online before. :stare:
My apologies to everyone. Weekends are generally really bad for me and posting (family, etc.), but this weekend we had a winter storm that knocked out my internet, phone and TV for almost the entire weekend. I can read threads on my phone, but posting from the phone is a pain in the you know what.
Heh pretty cool man. Update pls
Err... just who is this guy?
LazyMcCrow
03-05-2012, 22:01
Err... just who is this guy?
I think he might be the skull-faced guy :skull:
Yaropolk
03-05-2012, 22:52
i think that was a troll linking an ad to some diablo 3 website, and one of the mods removed the link now.
seireikhaan
03-05-2012, 23:07
Nap's over, night's over. Writeups to be posted asap.
seireikhaan
03-06-2012, 02:55
Jarema’s quarters were shared with two other members of the priesthood. With only two mats, Jarema slumped himself against the wall, eventually falling asleep with his head buried in his knees. None of the three heard the slight rustle of the curtain to their room being drawn back. A tall, lean man entered, bearing a curved knife in his right hand. He stalked forward, attempting to carefully maneuver the two sleeping in the middle of the floor. He stepped over the first, peering back to make sure he didn’t accidentally wake him. He turned back to Jarema, and froze when he heard a shifting behind him. The man sleeping behind him had rolled over in his sleep and latched onto the intruder’s rear leg.
With a slight panic, the man tried to gently tug his leg out of the grasp, but the dreaming nuisance was having none of it. He gave a harder tug, but still couldn’t free himself. With a small, exasperated sigh, he shook his head. He finally yanked as hard as he could. Unfortunately, it was at this point that the grip loosened on its own. He rocketed out of the grasp, much faster than he’d anticipated. With a panic, he realized he’d have to be creative to not tumble onto the next sleeping fellow. He instinctively shifted his weight as best he could, sending his top half forward and down. With not a small amount of grace, he touched down with his right hand to the cement floor. Somehow, he managed to cartwheel himself over the snoozing obstacle, his feet touching down just on the other side. The man grinned to himself. He walked up to the slouched Jarema, placing one hand on his mouth while the other pressed the knife to his throat. With a quick, powerful slice, the man ended Jarema’s life in a silent struggle.
Past the quarters themselves, the hallways lead down into a large, dimly lit chamber. In the middle was a large, square hole filled with a small amount of water. Ordinarily, rainwater generously ran down from a chute that collected it near the top of the pyramid. However, the draught lessened the pool’s depth considerably. Only the lack of sunlight and heat kept it from completely drying. High Priest Tlacalael was drying himself after a short cleansing. He adorned himself in a colorful, bright robe. He sat on a stone bench, pondering how long it would take to solve the crisis. If they weren’t successful soon, the entire city would riot. Never mind how many were already starving to death. He closed his eyes, uttering a short prayer once more that rain bless their crops. His utterance stopped when he heard footsteps approach the doorway. He turned to find a stout fellow, armed with a spear.
“My friend,” Tlacalael began. “These chambers are sanctified. Please, leave your weapon behind if you wish to cleanse.” The visitor nodded. He laid the weapon down at the entrance. He abstained, however, from cleansing, instead opting to take a place at the priest’s side.
“Do you believe what we are doing is right?” he asked Tlacalael quietly. Tlacalael was surprised. It was quite a brash question to ask him. He considered how exactly to answer.
“I believe in the emperor. His will is to please the divine. I do not doubt his tale. Do you?”
“Do I believe the gods told him this course of action?” The man responded. “Yes, I do. However, I’ve one small issue with how we’ve approached this.” Tlacalael raised his eyebrows, but kept quiet. “This is entirely unfocused. We need to find the one god who truly cares for us. Do all of the gods truly wish the best of us? No, I think not. But I do believe that there is one who truly wishes for us to thrive, who would not inflict such harsh punishment on us without telling us why. Would this not be preferable?”
Tlacalael was stunned. “Th… this is heresy! The gods each have their proper domains, and only they can determine what! You cannot possibly be serious!” The man turned to the High Priest, staring him straight in the eyes. With unparalleled reflexes, his right hand shot behind his back, grabbing the knife hidden by his cloak. He rammed it through Tlacalael’s chest. He pressed forward, driving Tlacalael onto the bench, pinning him on his back. He ripped deep into the chest, slicing without the precision the High Priest himself held, but carving it open nonetheless. Tlacalael’s final moments were in pure shock as the assassin held his heart in front of his face. “Deathly serious, my dearest Ishmael. Find grace in his caress.”
Chaotix snapped awake. What….? Where….? He was immediately blinded by a shining, golden light. He turned around, to spare himself the trauma, and found himself on a golden floor. He could not see a horizon to this direction- the floor seemed to just go forever. “You failed,” a voice boomed from behind him. Chaotix closed his eyes shut, turning himself around. “You had the greatest of opportunities and squandered it. Death may have come, but your punishment has only begun.”
“But… I did everything I could!” he protested back. “I was nothing but loyal! I did all that was asked of me. It was the foolish priests who sentenced me to death, I did not slay myself!”
“You failed. Swiftly. Yet, still you are accurate. You did die for the greater cause. You will be welcomed in my golden palace. After a time, of course.”
“What do you mean?” Chaotix asked the voice.
“You will serve out your punishment elsewhere. When I have decided you have served justice, you will return here, your eyes able to see through the brilliance. Until then… embrace the darkness.” With that, the floor vanished beneath Chaotix. He fell away from the light, and into the void.
When I arrived the next morning, the emperor was raging at the gathered priests and warriors. Fury blazed in his eyes. I was not sure what was happening, but I found it strange that Tlacalael was not at his side. I cautiously approached the group, sidling into place a few spaces from the Emperor. When he saw me, he pointed a finger in my direction. "Scribe! Here! NOW!" I immediately shuffled up as fast as I could to his side. "Your superior is dead." he hissed. "I don't suppose you would know anything about this, would you?"
My jaw dropped. Tlacalael? Dead? It was... impossible! And I was accused of causing his demise?! "N-no, my Emperor! I had no idea! I..."
"Enough, then! We must continue his work! I will end this draught! I will save my city! I will show the gods my dedication even if it means the death of every single one us! So long as they see our suffering and faith, they will bring us water! Now you all!" he commanded to the rest of the gathered men. "You will find the purest one, or I will slay you all! Get going!"
DAY FOUR BEGINS NOW. YOU HAVE 36 HOURS.
Alive:
Bsmith
Daveshack
Edse
Fluffy
GeneralHankerchief
Ishmael
Jarema
Landlubber
Lazy McCrow
Lewwyn
Montmorency
Visorslash
White eyes
Zack
Lynched:
Atheotes (D1)
SalmonSoil (D2)
Chaotix (D3)
Attacked:
Seon (N2)
Yaropolk (N2)
Csargo (N2)
Jarema (N3)
Ishmael (N3)
Montmorency
03-06-2012, 03:19
So much for my triple-kill Mafia...
I think it's quite plain. The gods are killing us. The killers are agents of gods. It makes sense.
“Do I believe the gods told him this course of action?” The man responded. “Yes, I do. However, I’ve one small issue with how we’ve approached this.” Tlacalael raised his eyebrows, but kept quiet. “This is entirely unfocused. We need to find the one god who truly cares for us. Do all of the gods truly wish the best of us? No, I think not. But I do believe that there is one who truly wishes for us to thrive, who would not inflict such harsh punishment on us without telling us why. Would this not be preferable?”
Meanwhile, we get 2 kills instead of 3, and Chaotix is shown being punished by some supernatural force. God of death?
At any rate, Chaotix was clearly a killer. His writeup does show that the killers are not the gods themselves, though.
The gods are having us killed off. This charade, this drought, everything, it's all a game. They're watching the mortals get massacred one by one for sport.
And to top it off we've lost the high priest, though given the circumstances I don't think there's much he could have done for us. :P
The only confusing thing: what were Yaro and Csargo? They couldn't have been gods, because they were killed. Perhaps a better case would be that they were friendly gods, or something.
What can we do about this?
Montmorency
03-06-2012, 03:21
How so? I don't think sacrificing to these guys is going to work too well, see? :undecided:
To me it looks like there is one 'rogue' god, and the killers are working on behalf of him. Hence the conversation between myself and my killer, and the thing with Chaotix (I'm assuming that he was mafia, which is why we only had two kills tonight).
Montmorency
03-06-2012, 03:34
But then, if the High Priest actually could do something useful (tell us?), and the other two supernaturals/gods were friendly...
Not too good. 2 scum, 2 kills, 10 townies?
The bad god may well be a Godfather (if the other two were physically present), leaving 3/12...
Khaan, one day I will have a power besides voting and talking in your games... one day. YOU MAKE ME MISS OUT ON THE FUN! :cry:
In other news I will not vote so hastily. I am thinking of voting General Hankerchief though. His exchanges don't sit well with me.
Vote: General Hankerchief
Regardless of whatever Chaotix is.
But then, if the High Priest actually could do something useful (tell us?)
The dead cannot reveal anything, including previous night actions.
Here's my current hypothesis: There is an 'evil' god, who may or may not be a player, who provides the 'motive' for the mafia - they are trying to kill off the townies in order to serve their god or something. The townies are serving the 'good' gods, and are trying to lynch the pure one. The problem is that I'm not sure how the pure one fits in to this - is he mafia, or a third party? Maybe two of the killers are/were mafia, and the third is the pure one? I dunno.
EDIT: I stand by my vote the other day - especially when compared to other games I've been in with him, GH seems to be trying to appear helpful without actually contributing anything. However, this doesn't really mesh with my 'Chaotix is scum' theory, unless one or the other was a SK/third party.
Obviously the pure one is Hernan Cortez.
EDIT: I stand by my vote the other day - especially when compared to other games I've been in with him, GH seems to be trying to appear helpful without actually contributing anything. However, this doesn't really mesh with my 'Chaotix is scum' theory, unless one or the other was a SK/third party.
Possibly thrown under the bus. Though now that I think about it, the more I can convince myself of it, regardless to whether or not it is true. Chaotix is a pretty good mafia player, right? *cough* :tongue:. He would know by voting for someone with the reason "You talk too much" would garner him attention. Therefore by bussing himself, he can make his mafioso teammates look good.
Or alternatively Chaotix was lazy.
Still, it's a possibility.
Montmorency
03-06-2012, 03:53
If there is an evil god, it's fairly obvious Chaotix is (was) associated with him.
As for the "pure one", I think it's pretty certain the High King's gone loony. We'd better look out for ourselves here.
GH seems rather imperious, but given the final exchange between him and Chaotix I don't think they could have been cooperating.
So who are you leaning to then?
Montmorency
03-06-2012, 04:07
:shrug:
As a confirmed innocent, Ishmael's opinion carries weight, but I need to see more speculation (as in, not from just two people).
What makes you think I'm innocent? One could consider me to be the chief butcher of the uncaring, apathetic gods :beam:.
Montmorency
03-06-2012, 04:14
Nah, I can't see a scenario where, given your death and role, you are actively anti-town.
GeneralHankerchief
03-06-2012, 05:48
khaan: When will we be seeing WoK?
seireikhaan
03-06-2012, 05:55
2 day phases (this included) from now. So end of the next day would be the soonest, according to my schedule.
Damn that's a write up. So Jarema and Ishmael are dead and Chaotix is banished to hell?
I'm of the opinion that we have some real lurkers here. I mean throughout the last few days we've had so few posts, lots of people not voting or giving more than one post a day. People that aren't sticking their neck out and are hiding. Someone in that group is likely to be a killer. Of course I also still suspect edse who somehow is able to silently deflect suspicion without raising a fuss every time there's a vote on him.
Vote: edse
For now.
GeneralHankerchief
03-06-2012, 06:21
Current alive players, along with total number of posts in the thread:
Bsmith - 6
Daveshack - 5
Edse - 9
Fluffy - 5
GeneralHankerchief - 10
Jarema - 8
Landlubber - 2
Lazy McCrow - 7
Lewwyn - 13
Montmorency - 22
Visorslash - 18
White eyes - 5
Zack - 6
Out of all of these, landlubber is probably going to be eating a lightning bolt in a day or two so we'll forget about him. The group of others with 5 or 6 posts, however, may slip by and that's bad news for us if they reach the endgame.
BSmith
DaveShack
fluffy
White_eyes:D
Zaccino
Lazy McCrow (borderline)
DaveShack's been doing a lot of noncommittal writeup interpretation. Anyone know if that's usually what he does?
Fluffy's been quiet for him. However, this is also fluffy we're talking about.
White_eyes voted for a dead guy last round, don't think he'd be the type to do that if he was mafia.
Vote: DaveShack
So much for my triple-kill Mafia...
I think it's quite plain. The gods are killing us. The killers are agents of gods. It makes sense.
Meanwhile, we get 2 kills instead of 3, and Chaotix is shown being punished by some supernatural force. God of death?
At any rate, Chaotix was clearly a killer. His writeup does show that the killers are not the gods themselves, though.
The gods are having us killed off. This charade, this drought, everything, it's all a game. They're watching the mortals get massacred one by one for sport.
And to top it off we've lost the high priest, though given the circumstances I don't think there's much he could have done for us. :P
The only confusing thing: what were Yaro and Csargo? They couldn't have been gods, because they were killed. Perhaps a better case would be that they were friendly gods, or something.
What can we do about this?
I'm the friendliest friend whoever befriended you.
DaveShack
03-06-2012, 09:21
DaveShack's been doing a lot of noncommittal writeup interpretation. Anyone know if that's usually what he does?
Yes, that's exactly what I do. I'm pretty damn useless when I'm a vanilla townie, because I don't have any idea what to do when there's no information. :bow:
One game, I had a role that limited me to 5 posts per day phase. On some people that would be a serious restriction, I'd only care if it was a role where I had to post more than twice. :laugh4:
One game, I had a role that limited me to 5 posts per day phase.
Somebody needs to give that role to ATPG or Montmorency some time :laugh4:.
LazyMcCrow
03-06-2012, 10:00
Current alive players, along with total number of posts in the thread:
Bsmith - 6
Daveshack - 5
Edse - 9
Fluffy - 5
GeneralHankerchief - 10
Jarema - 8
Landlubber - 2
Lazy McCrow - 7
Lewwyn - 13
Montmorency - 22
Visorslash - 18
White eyes - 5
Zack - 6
Out of all of these, landlubber is probably going to be eating a lightning bolt in a day or two so we'll forget about him. The group of others with 5 or 6 posts, however, may slip by and that's bad news for us if they reach the endgame.
BSmith
DaveShack
fluffy
White_eyes:D
Zaccino
Lazy McCrow (borderline)
DaveShack's been doing a lot of noncommittal writeup interpretation. Anyone know if that's usually what he does?
Fluffy's been quiet for him. However, this is also fluffy we're talking about.
White_eyes voted for a dead guy last round, don't think he'd be the type to do that if he was mafia.
Vote: DaveShack
My dear General: After accusing you of being TOO townie, I took my vote off you because I have complete sympathy regarding your OOC complaints about the 'state of mafia games today'. I really hope that you weren't/aren't pulling the wool over our eyes with that line, but I'm choosing to believe you for now as you have posted some helpful stuff. If you had'nt posted by now I would have definitely put my vote back on you today. However, there is still the problem that you are almost top of my list for setting off alarm bells when it comes to 'intuitive scum-reading' - If either Visor or Monty are scum then I'll eat my own heart. Daveshack seemed a good option but I like his response. Fluffy's 'I eat pain' comment in a previous post stood out for me, but a mere FoS at that crazy mother for now. Nope - TOp of the pops when it comes to tickling my tingleys is Lewwyn. Something about the 'righteousness' that seems a bit forced.
Vote: Lewwyn
LazyMcCrow
03-06-2012, 10:02
Oh yeah - I reposted your list because you still have Jarema listed as 'alive' - also Ishamel is still listed as both alive and attacked in Khaans write-up post. :bow:
Askthepizzaguy
03-06-2012, 10:26
Somebody needs to give that role to ATPG or Montmorency some time :laugh4:.
Lynch this guy.
GeneralHankerchief
03-06-2012, 10:28
Yes, that's exactly what I do. I'm pretty damn useless when I'm a vanilla townie, because I don't have any idea what to do when there's no information. :bow:
One game, I had a role that limited me to 5 posts per day phase. On some people that would be a serious restriction, I'd only care if it was a role where I had to post more than twice. :laugh4:
What's your opinion on what's been going on in the thread this past couple of rounds?
Something about the 'righteousness' that seems a bit forced.
Vote: Lewwyn
That's fine. I do want to give you a bit of background about that righteousness in gaming though.
http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5510
That's a link to a Realms Beyond Mafia game that I'm currently in. It put this one to shame. It's still on the first day and there are already 282 posts from 17 players and the host. Most posts are longer and informative, inquisitive and legitimately argumentative even on day 1. Everyone posts or you get lynched. It's pretty much the exact opposite from here. It's one of the reasons I get upset when no one is posting or I get attacked because I post. I guess one of the differences is there are is no out of thread communication unless you are in a scum pack. It makes it harder on the village, and thus one of the reasons everyone pushes so hard in thread. If you want to know where my "righteousness" comes from its knowing the difference between the games.
Not to defend my scumbag friend here, but Lewwyn typically adopts this stance. At least from the Island point of view. Which he was mafia. But that's besides the point.
Also Lewwyn, different people, different site, different kind of play, etc all make for a different game.
Regardless, an important fact to remember is that the more you talk, the more likely you are to slip as scum or make a mistake. Which is why that tactic works. However, it will no doubt catch townies too, and the fact that we always have lurkers should not be a surprise to you. The length of the days may also have something to do with it. I do like discussion, and I post a lot, or at least I used to before life intervened.
Regardless of this, I'm not suspicious because of the fact you post, I'm suspicious of what you said. And to hide behind a lurker crusade is easy for scum, even if they start it, because often lynching all lurkers is a win-win situation for scumbags.
Not to defend my scumbag friend here, but Lewwyn typically adopts this stance. At least from the Island point of view. Which he was mafia. But that's besides the point.
Yep. I also adopted this stance in Buffy, where I was townie. It's just sort of who I am.
Everyone has some kind of playstyle. I wish I had played against you in a more talkative game, but I've always been on your side I believe, out of the one game we've played together. :tongue:
Though interestingly enough, your killchoices there (Island) may also relate back to here. Sasaki, ATPG, etc. Now Csargo and Yaro, both experienced at mafia and good at it. Ishamel and Jarrema are also not lurkers and they do play the game.
It (was or something like that) an unread rule that you don't kill the oldies/experienced night one, or at least that's what I've ascertained. I know you had no problem with that one.
Something to consider, anyway.
Visorslash, normally I hate to bring up WIFOM as it's a tired and overused argument, but I think this is an example where it applies. I can't see that any conclusions can be drawn from reading into the kill choices (but knowing my luck, you'll be 100% correct).
Visorslash, normally I hate to bring up WIFOM as it's a tired and overused argument, but I think this is an example where it applies. I can't see that any conclusions can be drawn from reading into the kill choices (but knowing my luck, you'll be 100% correct).
I'm not using it as an argument for anything. I'm saying it as something to consider. Note that I'm voting GH at the moment.
edse
Talk, buddy.
Zaccino
You too.
BSmith
etc.
White_eyes:D
And you.
I'm not using it as an argument for anything. I'm saying it as something to consider. Note that I'm voting GH at the moment.
edse
Talk, buddy.
Zaccino
You too.
BSmith
etc.
White_eyes:D
And you.
Oh, that's why you write so funny!
Wait a minute and I'll post...
Oh, that's why you write so funny!
I know my grammar is atrocious, is that what you mean? :tongue:
I know my grammar is atrocious, is that what you mean? :tongue:
No, I meant the mentioning thing.
I'm gonna let Montmorency go for a while since no one will help me with him. Today's posts from him has also made me doubt his guiltyness from previous days.
Vote: White_eyes:D for now
Why White eyes?
Only because he voted Csargo yesterday. That's a very weak reasoning so I will most likely change my vote later.
One key question that needs to be answered in order to find scum is "Was Chaotix good or evil?"
Only because he voted Csargo yesterday. That's a very weak reasoning so I will most likely change my vote later.
One key question that needs to be answered in order to find scum is "Was Chaotix good or evil?"
Ah, YOU voted for Atheotes day 2.
So you're voting him like a hypocrite...?
Ah, YOU voted for Atheotes day 2.
So you're voting him like a hypocrite...?
The vote on atheotes was only to see if someone would vote as third and mention "third on the bandwagon". Monty did, that's why I find him scummy.
Btw, weren't you the first one? :smile:
The vote on atheotes was only to see if someone would vote as third and mention "third on the bandwagon". Monty did, that's why I find him scummy.
Btw, weren't you the first one? :smile:
I think a lot of people would've done that...
And yes I was, but you don't see me voting White Eyes, do you?
I think a lot of people would've done that...
And yes I was, but you don't see me voting White Eyes, do you?
But most likely a mafia as it would be extra good for him to act that way.
Sorry for jumping around but Unvote: Vote: LacyMcCrow You post once a day and your posts contain a lot of weak argumentation making it look like you try to avoid attention.
LazyMcCrow
03-06-2012, 15:11
But most likely a mafia as it would be extra good for him to act that way.
Sorry for jumping around but Unvote: Vote: LacyMcCrow You post once a day and your posts contain a lot of weak argumentation making it look like you try to avoid attention.
Argument + Documentation = Argumentation! : Like it, nice one centurion.
Whether mine is 'weak' or not is certainly open to debate, but I don't think any of my posts look like an attempt to avoid attention, and I have only post less than yourself at the time of writing. Your accusatory post and (hypocritical?) line of argument is doing nothing but making you smell fishy to me. The apologetic line alone: 'Sorry for jumping around' stands out a mile - you're only sorry because it draws attention to yourself.
UNVOTE: Lewwyn - you give a fairly decent account of yourself to my mind.
Not sure who gets my vote now, but edse put himself up there with GH Will reread the thread and hopefully formulate an opinion!
Yaropolk
03-06-2012, 15:12
Vote Montmorency a little bird told me he is special.
Why do you keep voting? Unfortunately we didn’t get an official tally of the votes from yesterday, so we have no way to know if your vote then was actually counted or not. Perhaps you would like to shed some light on the matter?
EDIT: I stand by my vote the other day - especially when compared to other games I've been in with him, GH seems to be trying to appear helpful without actually contributing anything. However, this doesn't really mesh with my 'Chaotix is scum' theory, unless one or the other was a SK/third party.
GH’s vote for Chaotix could easily have been an attempt to get on the right side of the lynch. When he changed from Jarema (a “place holder” vote) Chaotix was already well in the lead. I wouldn’t discount a relationship between the two. Perhaps an explanation by GH for the reasons he switched votes would be helpful.
And what’s up with “place holder” votes anyway? That is basically just saying that you don’t have any time so you are going to vote for anyone, just so you can stay “active” and not get too much attention for not posting. It’s lazy and it is way too convenient, especially as there are others who have missed rounds entirely (me included) that will draw more attention.
GH has done fairly little to advance the town cause in this game. Most of his posts are “place holder” type votes, or meta discussions about mafia in general.
While edse is also raising my suspicions, I think that I am going to go with vote: GeneralHankerchief for now.
LazyMcCrow
03-06-2012, 16:08
vote: BSmith Why is edse raising your suspicions?
DaveShack
03-06-2012, 16:22
Maybe the folks who don't like lots of power roles have a point. If you have lots of time (spent about 40 minutes just reading and another 10 typing this) it is possible to figure some things out even this early in the game. Maybe I'm not as useless at vanilla as I thought. Or perhaps this will turn out to be a load of senseless drivel. Anyhow, in the spirit of getting more discussion. :yes:
We need to sacrifice the one who is pure. Purity can come in either good or evil form, so we should not use good/evil as a sole indicator of scum.
My reading on Chaotix is that he could have been either SK or scum. This would make more sense within the night writeup than town would.
We can't read the high priest as innocent, at least not for certain. That role might just give flavor to the writeups -- now that the high priest is dead we get less precision with a knife. But the next night will tell us a lot -- if Ishmael wasn't town then either mafia killed sk, or sk killed mafia. Here's where my relatively less experience comes in -- is one of those kill types normally not allowed? I can't remember which one normally can't kill the other. If we have 2 or more kills tonight, then the obvious assumption that Ishmael was innocent is probably correct. And in fact I'm not really saying he wasn't, just keeping the possibility open given the genre.
GH and Lewwyn make a big point about lurkers being more likely to be scum, but hunting lurkers is also a good cover for mafia trying to take control of the lynch. They throw a vote out on a lurker, and if a bandwagon results they are less likely to be suspected because late on the bandwagon is seen as more scummy than starting one in the first place. And if the mafia find themselves with more posts than the average town, it is safe to point out anyone as a lurker because their scumbuddy won't be on that list.
Then we have the dead guys talking and voting. That could mean they're scum, though I'm hard pressed to say who killed them. Would a host deliberately "kill" the mafia and make it their challenge to influence people with their dead votes? Seems too unbalanced to me. So would having townies still be able to vote after being killed, unless they were power roles to begin with.
My best guess is that one (or more) of the lurker hunters is scum. For that I'll go back to the voting patterns. The vote on Chaotix only got serious when we got most of the way through day and GH and Lewwyn both had votes. Don't know how to read Yaropolk -- dead and counted, or dead and not counted? Visorslash doesn't give me a negative vibe yet, but did follow a deader. I'm town but I can't expect you to believe me. So who voted late on that bandwagon, and are now hunting lurkers? It's a coin flip between GH and Lewwyn, and I see GH as being more helpful.
Vote: Lewwyn but I'm open to better evidence.
DaveShack
03-06-2012, 16:30
That took long enough to write that several posts came in.
This reminded me, I have been suspicious of Edse doing so much vote switching. I can imagine scum bouncing around like that, hoping something will stick.
I'm really torn between Lewwyn and GH, and BSmith makes the same points I would have made about GH if the coin flip went that way. Let's examine this behavior some more. :yes:
vote: BSmith Why is edse raising your suspicions?
I don’t know that I buy the “always slipping away from the lynch” that others accuse edse of, mainly because it is some of the same others that are allowing him to do that.
But I am wary of him for several reasons, some of them the same ones that you already pointed out: his self-conscious vote switching today (when he has been pretty solid in voting for just Monty the past two days); his semi-serious involvement in the D2 dead voting extravaganza (really just a big WIFOM in my mind), his voting for White_Eyes today for basically the same thing he did earlier in the game.
To be honest now that I look a little deeper, this just seems like erratic behavior, and not anything more sinister, but he does bear watching just in case I am doing a terrible job of reading him.
Yaropolk
03-06-2012, 16:47
Why do you keep voting? Unfortunately we didn’t get an official tally of the votes from yesterday, so we have no way to know if your vote then was actually counted or not. Perhaps you would like to shed some light on the matter?
Why do you keep voting? You have your role I have mine. I was right about Chaotix, and I'm right about Monty.
My best guess is that one (or more) of the lurker hunters is scum. For that I'll go back to the voting patterns. The vote on Chaotix only got serious when we got most of the way through day and GH and Lewwyn both had votes. Don't know how to read Yaropolk -- dead and counted, or dead and not counted? Visorslash doesn't give me a negative vibe yet, but did follow a deader. I'm town but I can't expect you to believe me. So who voted late on that bandwagon, and are now hunting lurkers? It's a coin flip between GH and Lewwyn, and I see GH as being more helpful.
Vote: Lewwyn but I'm open to better evidence.
I snipped the first part because it was long, but I did read it. I actually though t it was a good post with some good ideas, like the point about Ishmael. But in the end I don't think you're right and you are misremembering or twisting facts.
You say the vote on Chaotix only got serious when GH and I had votes on us. Actually when I voted for Chaotix I don't think anyone was voting for me. I joined late to the Chaotix bandwagon? There were barely any voters on him, the votes were 3 for GH and 3 for Chaotix. I pushed the vote to 4 on Chaotix. So it wasn't a bandwagon until after I made the vote. You can't just say I threw a useless vote onto Chaotix.
As for hunting lurkers I'm voting for edse who is not a lurker. I have said I want to see the lurkers post but I haven't voted for them.
Get your facts strait because it looks like you're twisting them to put a case on me that doesn't exist. Its obvious you haven't been following closely and are trying to make up for it. I can't stand it.
Why do you keep voting? You have your role I have mine. I was right about Chaotix, and I'm right about Monty.
Right. I am in the alive category, and for all we know you are dead. Apparently you are not dead if your role still allows you to vote, even though you are in the same category as the others that have clearly been killed.
As for Monty – what can you tell us about him other than “I am right”? It is a little difficult to blindly follow a ghost that “died” under suspicious circumstances.
I will note, however, that while Monty has been talkative he did not vote yesterday (unless I missed it?) and he has not yet voted today.
This reminded me, I have been suspicious of Edse doing so much vote switching. I can imagine scum bouncing around like that, hoping something will stick.
I voted for Montmorency two days and today I switched once, is that much vote switching?
Right. I am in the alive category, and for all we know you are dead. Apparently you are not dead if your role still allows you to vote, even though you are in the same category as the others that have clearly been killed.
As for Monty – what can you tell us about him other than “I am right”? It is a little difficult to blindly follow a ghost that “died” under suspicious circumstances.
I will note, however, that while Monty has been talkative he did not vote yesterday (unless I missed it?) and he has not yet voted today.
He is right.
LazyMcCrow
03-06-2012, 18:09
I voted for Montmorency two days and today I switched once, is that much vote switching?
Not as much as me. I think the ghost is onto something.
UNVOTE: BSmith VOTE: Montmorency
What the hell. Let’s see where this goes. unvote; vote: Montmorency
GeneralHankerchief
03-06-2012, 19:30
And what’s up with “place holder” votes anyway? That is basically just saying that you don’t have any time so you are going to vote for anyone, just so you can stay “active” and not get too much attention for not posting. It’s lazy and it is way too convenient, especially as there are others who have missed rounds entirely (me included) that will draw more attention.
I was pretty drunk in that post where I voted for Chaotix. I saw that I had votes, I saw that my best chance of survival was switching it off to Chaotix. I wasn't really in a state to determine if my vote switch was necessary or not.
DaveShack
03-06-2012, 19:37
Get your facts strait because it looks like you're twisting them to put a case on me that doesn't exist. Its obvious you haven't been following closely and are trying to make up for it. I can't stand it.
Nah, I'm just trying to make sense of what little there is. I'm satisfied with your reaction, for now. Unvote
I'll have to read the new material more closely to see where I should turn my attention to next.
DaveShack
03-06-2012, 19:48
Let's see, follow a ghost's (?) vote for Monty? Believe or don't believe the explanation from GH that his Chaotix vote was under the influence?
Need... More... Info...
DaveShack
03-06-2012, 19:49
He is right.
Which he? Which statement is right? :shrug:
I guess you're limited by dead rules, but confusing info may be worse than no info.
Edit: and no, I'm not just bumping my post count in the thread. (decided not to post that as a separate post)
GeneralHankerchief
03-06-2012, 19:58
Grrrrrr......vote: Chaotix. You know why
This was the first vote on Chaotix last round. The interesting thing is that this was in direct opposition to Chaotix voting for Monty, who is now Yaro's lynch choice.
DaveShack
03-06-2012, 20:16
What conclusion do you draw from that? Take us through the logic please.
Which he? Which statement is right? :shrug:
I guess you're limited by dead rules, but confusing info may be worse than no info.
Edit: and no, I'm not just bumping my post count in the thread. (decided not to post that as a separate post)
I was referring to Yaro's statement about Montmorency.
Which he? Which statement is right? :shrug:
I guess you're limited by dead rules, but confusing info may be worse than no info.
Edit: and no, I'm not just bumping my post count in the thread. (decided not to post that as a separate post)
Hi! I'm an extra post.
GeneralHankerchief
03-06-2012, 20:42
I'm wasn't drawing any conclusion, just pointing it out. However, if you do want me to take it further, I'd be more than willing to.
- First of all, despite Yaro's statements of such when he told us to vote Monty, I was unsure if this was the first time he had pulled this in this game. Now I know that it isn't.
- Secondly, the current opinion is that Chaotix is scum of sort sort going by the drop in kills. Whether or not this is actually the case (I think it's likely, but am nowhere near certain), Yaro is really pushing this line hard in order to get us to lynch Monty this round. This is also serving to remind us of his perceived importance in the game.
- Considering the fact that Chaotix was specifically going after Monty last round and that Yaro specifically referenced this when voting Chaotix, it's likely that Yaro got his information regarding Monty this past night. Whether this was triggered by Chaotix (possibly a role) posthumously suggesting this to his buddies, who then told Yaropolk, is beyond my pay grade.
If we're inclined to believe Yaro, then the best thing we should do is probably trust his source(s) and vote Monty. If we don't, or believe that he has an ulterior motive, we can't really strike directly at Yaropolk, him being already dead and all. Monty is in this case either a sacrificial lamb designed to be part of a confidence scam on Yaro's part (the kills decrease again and we hail Yaro as our savior for the rest of the game and follow his directives unquestioningly) or a role of some importance that is in opposition to Yaro's goals. There is also the possibility that Yaro's being manipulated by the source feeding him this information, but I find this unlikely as there is a high chance that Yaro has a role himself.
In any case, Monty's been on since the discussion ramped up earlier today and hasn't posted.
Unvote: DaveShack
Vote: Montmorency
At least until he gets on.
Come on GH, you can do better than that. First you give your reasoning for voting Chaotix as "I was drunk," and then you switch to Montmorency simply because a dead person told you to. Sure he's implying that he has a source of information (detective, PMs when he was alive, whatever), but anybody can do that - scum, a third-party role, or even just a townie who wants to make his case heard. If I told everybody to vote for you because "a little bird told me to," would you then meekly acquiesce and self vote?
GeneralHankerchief
03-06-2012, 22:04
The difference between the two cases is that in this case, I outlined most to all of the possible motives for Yaropolk to be doing this and determined that it was more probable he was telling the truth (or at least what he perceived to be the truth). In your example, I'd know without a doubt that you were lying and thus focus on proving it to everybody. Differences in available information account for a lot. :laugh4:
Montmorency
03-06-2012, 23:00
Oh, is that what you do? Well, stick around, fellas.
Unvote; Vote: Monty
Let's see where this leads us.
Montmorency
03-07-2012, 02:04
Happy birthday to the overseer, for he has approved what follows:
Alright, you scumbags. You think you can get me lynched on the sly? Not even the courtesy of a night-kill?
And don't think I'm not wise to you, GH. I wanted to have you killed N3, before my champion got himself lynched.
By the way: Mictlantecutl, I ordered the hit on you. You were acting a little Godlike. :wink:
I am Huitzilopochtli, god of war and the sun.
Csargo is Quetzlcoatl. Yaro is Mictlantecutl. Chaotix was my killer. I know that GH is a killer.
It seems in my "speculations" I hit too close to the truth, and you guessed my identity.
I'm the friendliest friend whoever befriended you.
Vote Montmorency a little bird told me he is special.
But cut the crap - you can't vote.
So here's the deal: everything you have heard thus far, from GH, Yaropolk, Csargo, myself, Chaotix, and one other among you, has been bullcrap.
I'm one of three gods here. We get a follower, and he kills for us. Csargo and Yaropolk were killed N2. I am the last god standing, but the other gods still have their killers in the field.
I am bound by the oaths of the wager against revealing our winning conditions. Suffice to say that we are working against each other, and the only way town can win is if we simultaneously kill each other. Town is not the driver here. Town is merely a backdrop to our activities. It's the flavor of the game.
If you don't lynch me now, I will be night-killed. All I want to do is take down GH. Whether he's Mict's or Quetzl's puppet, I don't care. I just want to take down one more of these guys.
It matters not. Third killer, I do not know you. But whoever is lynched here, make the appropriate kill. You've already won.
Are you Quetzl's, GH? That's what I would expect, on meta principles.
Vote: General Hankerchief
Unvote; Vote: General Hankerchief
For the sun god!
So let me get this straight, there are 3 gods who have three killers.
2 gods are dead and one killer is dead?
So we have one god you and apparently one killer GH
So then we are left with one killer, right?
Montmorency
03-07-2012, 02:15
Yes, one killer besides. No idea who that one is, so he deserves to win IMO.
I had that boiling since the morning, but some stuff did have to be redacted.
THE GOD OF WAR WILL NOT BE BEATEN WITH CLEVER ONE-LINERS
Yes, one killer besides. No idea who that one is, so he deserves to win IMO.
Hahahaha no. You can rip out my beating heart before I let mafia win. Knowing me, that will happen.
Town victory is what I'm looking for.
But most likely a mafia as it would be extra good for him to act that way.
Sorry for jumping around but Unvote: Vote: LacyMcCrow You post once a day and your posts contain a lot of weak argumentation making it look like you try to avoid attention.
Are you intentionally trying to sentence yourself to death, seriously?
I am bound by the oaths of the wager against revealing our winning conditions. Suffice to say that we are working against each other, and the only way town can win is if we simultaneously kill each other. Town is not the driver here. Town is merely a backdrop to our activities. It's the flavor of the game.
If you don't lynch me now, I will be night-killed. All I want to do is take down GH. Whether he's Mict's or Quetzl's puppet, I don't care. I just want to take down one more of these guys.
Wait what? There's no win condition? Except if simultaneous killing by the Gods themselves? But if we lynch you, isn't there a chance the town can win since from what you say, the two killers will be alive and possibly kill each other?
We have half an hour right?
Montmorency
03-07-2012, 02:22
All I can really say is that it would take simultaneous elimination for town victory. The second killer has been revealed. Work that out.
No they have winning conditions, but they can't reveal them.
Actually. Why don't we just lynch all the bloody gods now.
ll I can really say is that it would take simultaneous elimination for town victory.
I doubt that. Town has to be given a fair chance of winning and the chance of three people killing exactly themselves through other people or what have you is quite small. So no, I think you are wrong.
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