Time Travelers Timewarp [Concluded]

[Ishmael]

How would gaining a confirmed townie and a second shot at getting a mafioso be a waste?

Because I've already offered to do so :yes:. You can do so if you like, though, and I can repeal my orders to CB - your call.

[Montmorency]

I'm pretty sure Greyblades switching, along with you, was the plan. If you both switch, no one will ever be able to get Arjos lynched again (on D1).

[edse]

only one of you go. if Yaropolk proves to be mafia the rest of us can go back next night. If he's innocent we still have possibilities to change to someone else.

[Arjos]

What's the use? One silly coin toss for a mafia (highly unlikely)...
Do that with one vote on each player...

Lynching someone else on D1, for the sake of it, would gain far less than doing it on a "confirmed" mafia...

I have already one unchangeable vote, make that four, if the attackers pile them on...
Again, make a "safe" phase, with a single vote on everyone...

[Montmorency]

The point is to bring you back. If only one vote is changed, there's a high risk of any one vote change later in the game of...

[edse]

The point is to bring you back. If only one vote is changed, there's a high risk of any one vote change later in the game of...

But what if Yaropolk is just as innocent as Arjos?

[Arjos]

If only one vote is changed, there's a high risk of any one vote change later in the game of...

Gah! Each following phase, people will lynch a new player in that "safe" phase...
It's a mechanic to gain more lynches each day...
Not to mention, every next day, there would be one less suspect; provided he isn't night killed...

Soon as deads walk again, either everybody else unvotes on the scum to secure the lynch, or lynch him in D1...


The point is to bring you back.

That is pointless, odds are, we would trade an innocent for another...

[Montmorency]

But what if Yaropolk is just as innocent as Arjos?


That is the price we pay. Arjos is absolutely confirmed as innocent by the N1 writeup. I don't believe any other player's alignment will be quite as clear-cut, unless they're one of the Big Names.


Gah! Each following phase, people lynch a new player...

One of the silly bits I was referring to. What about "that will no longer be possible after D5" do you not understand?

[edse]

If one of them change and Yaropolk is lynched we can see who he is. If one of them change and Arjos still is lynched and if we can see from the night write up that a mafia went back in time (time travel and one missing kill) we can draw the conclusion that the mafia wasted one night kill to save him ( and maybe that it with 50% chance is someone of the two voting for Yaropolk first. I don't know if this is correct)

[Montmorency]

Yes, the above is all true. However, a confirmed townie is a rather valuable thing to have, no?

But let's try something.

I renounce my previous position and strongly recommend that only one of the two go back and switch from Arjos!

:yes:

[Arjos]

What about "that will no longer be possible after D5" do you not understand?

Two trys, still better than nothing...
Plus the tie could get a mafia...

With three attackers, multiple ties, at least one :P
I wanted to save the D1 change for D5, so that we get a townie and former victims...
But if only few change, I guess we can still manage another D1 change...

[Captain Blackadder]

Write up has being edited in

[Greyblades]

Ugh, fine, I'll save my vote change. Only having a one vote superiority on Yarpolk will help if we want to change the first turn anyway.

[Captain Blackadder]

As night continues on the people of the TimeStream hear the humming of time machines. This time they hear far more then last time time machine after time machine roars to life and moves their masters back in the time stream to have some sort of effect on the stream. However what the results of that will be must wait first we must deal with the present and see who it is that has died this very night.

Our first victim is a simple man not used to being was could be called intelligent or witty. Yet his simple manner could have helped the time travellers as he had helped his fellow man countless times before. Phillip J Fry (Count Arach ) is reading a book on time travel called Mr Bunny and the temporal paradox. He gasps as he finishes reading it. I am the hope of all of humanity, So I really am important? How I feel when I'm drunk is correct? Hmmm he hums to himself and finishes off a can of slurm having returned from the past thanks to the Professors forward time travel device. A figure enters the room. Phillip J Fry you are hereby found guilty of the worst crime of time travel known to man. You are your own Grandfather. Your crime of creating such a paradox is so heinous that you must be killed at once. With this the figure pulls out a pen and paper on which is written. The fate of humanity. The figure uses his pen and rubs out a small section and Phillip J Fry winks out of existence.

Count Arach Phillip J Fry is dead

Our second victim is an altogether different sort of man. Dr Sam Beckett (Riedquat) is a man that invented a method of travelling in time admittedly it had it's limitations but it still worked after a fashion. He had done much in his life righting what once was wrong but he shall do it no more. A figure walks into his room. Dr Sam Beckett for your crimes of causing Watergate to happen, inventing the moonwalk and for the worst crime of all forcing Donald Trump on a unsuspecting world you are hearby found guilty and sentenced to death do you have anything to say? Oh Boy says Sam. With those final words the figure pulls out his small device once more and shoots Sam Beckett scattering his molecules to the wind.

Riedquat (Dr Sam Beckett) is dead.

As day breaks over the time area. An alarm is sounded over the the speakers surrounding the time travellers. TIMESTREAM ALTERED STABILISATION IMMINENT. With this alarm ringing through everyone's ears. Yaropolk (The Time Traveller) fades out of existence to be replaced with Arjos (Jack Harkness) alive and well.

Montmorency
Visorslash
CountArach
Lewwyn
Daveshack
Chaotix
Atheothos
Yaropolk
Arjos
Reidquat
Salmonsoil
Ishmael
LazyMcCrow
Edse
Tuuvi
Greyblades
Khann

[Montmorency]

Oh noooo

[Arjos]

I hope the telephoned revival was to rescue Lewwyn and make the mafia waste a kill on me :P
Otherwise I'm dead ^^

[Montmorency]

I believe foolishness may have cost us - and you.

Perhaps I'm being overly dramatic...

[Lewwyn]

I believe foolishness may have cost us - and you.

Perhaps I'm being overly dramatic...

WTF? So confused.

[Arjos]

So Yaro was yet another victim of town's favouritism? XD

Also two attacks: mafia being smart, unable to kill me the night of revival or Salmon was mafia and is being kept as a "sleeper" agent?

[Visor]

Oh hi there.

[Montmorency]

You don't know what you're talking about!

Also, Edse and Visor are scum. Doctor my butt.

[Visor]

Boo. Hiss. Etc.

Why's that Vote: Montmorency?

[Visor]

Vote: Monty

[Montmorency]

Hmm...

Prove me right.

[Lewwyn]

Well, I'll tell the town what the mafia already know now. I'm the town vigilante and I killed SalmonSoil N1, figured he was the scummiest, and judging by the people voting for him looks like I wasn't alone in that thought. However with 2 kills tonight it's clear that he wasn't.

This is the reasons I wanted to be revived before night ended, so that the mafia wouldn't figure out I was the vig.

Also a piece of information, I change my vote during the daytime. I'm assuming that the mafia with night kills also have daytime vote changes. Hence I think Monty is also innocent.

[Lewwyn]

Vote: Visorlash

As I said in the post above, Monty is obviously innocent because he changes his vote at night.

[Visor]

Eh..... DO NOT revive Lewwyn under any circumstances. We cannot trust his word. He could be a mafia lying as a killer.
Do NOT listen to any counterclaims. It would be too easy for the mafia to simply hide under the pretense of vig. We will waste days, and lose players.

Unvote;

[Visor]

Unvote

[Montmorency]

Eh, what? I'm not sure that's a good reason to think me innocent (per se).

However, Visor's behavior makes Vote: Visorslash, on the other hand...

Looks like Arach was innocent, Grey!

[Lewwyn]

Confirmed Innocent:

CountArach
Lewwyn
Chaotix
Yaropolk
Arjos
Reidquat
Salmonsoil

Most likely innocent based on night vote switching ability:

Ishmael
Montmorency

Unknown:

LazyMcCrow
Edse
Tuuvi
Greyblades
Khann
Visorslash
Daveshack
Atheothos

[Visor]

Behaviour? Really? I thought we were past this Monty. :sad:

^^ I do not trust this list.

I do not trust Lewwyn full stop.

Back tomorrow.

[Montmorency]

I do.

[Lewwyn]

Eh..... DO NOT revive Lewwyn under any circumstances. We cannot trust his word. He could be a mafia lying as a killer.
Do NOT listen to any counterclaims. It would be too easy for the mafia to simply hide under the pretense of vig. We will waste days, and lose players.

Unvote;


A) I'm Kyle Reese, I fight Terminators, the good soldier.
B) Read the Night 1 write-up again, I killed SalmonSoil and even SalmonSoil thought it sounded more like a vig (or SK) than mafia.
C) I'm Kyle Reese.
D) You're probably mafia.

[Yaropolk]

Well, I'll tell the town what the mafia already know now. I'm the town vigilante and I killed SalmonSoil N1, figured he was the scummiest, and judging by the people voting for him looks like I wasn't alone in that thought. However with 2 kills tonight it's clear that he wasn't.

This is the reasons I wanted to be revived before night ended, so that the mafia wouldn't figure out I was the vig.

Also a piece of information, I change my vote during the daytime. I'm assuming that the mafia with night kills also have daytime vote changes. Hence I think Monty is also innocent.

Lewwyn - I don't think revealing your actions after you've died is kosher even in a time travel game.

[Greyblades]

Looks like Arach was innocent, Grey!

Did I say otherwise? kinda annoying we found out this way though, it's going to take a bit more work this time if we want him back.

[Arjos]

I thought we had 2 mafia a SK and a doctor...

Well let's revive Lewwyn and the doc protects him...

Vote: Visorslash
Only one way to check his claim...

[Visor]

Lalalalalalalala. You guys are following monty blindly and Lewwyn that is terrible reasoning. But no doubt as I go to sleep there will be 10 votes on me and it will be irreversible. Eh. You guys are disappointing.

[Greyblades]

...You know visor its a bit early to go off in a huff when you have only 2 votes.

[Arjos]

Lewwyn is clearly town-oriented due to his lynch write-up and role...
You and Monty are doing what you two always do, but you are advocating to mistrust Lewwyn...

Go on further than the "he's bad, I'm good" reasoning and we'll listen...

[Riedquat]

Doh... I did something you probably won't like... this night I was time-travelling, supposedly... do not know if i was killed before or after my little trip, if before no harm done. If after... I changed my vote from Salmon to Yaro :embarassed:

[LazyMcCrow]

Visorslash - He's Kyle Reese. You're against bringing him back? So you're mafia or you're Arnie. Either way, you need deading.

vote: visorslash

[edse]

You don't know what you're talking about!

Also, Edse and Visor are scum. Doctor my butt.

Why, what have I done this time?

This is the possible tallies of day 1 and 2 if no one else has gone back to change.

Day 1
4 Yaropolk Lewwyn, Tuuvi, Ishmael, Riedquat
2 Greyblades Arjos, Yarapolk
2 Arjos Greyblades, Montmorency
2 Montmorency Visorslash, SalmonSoil
1 SalmonSoil issaikhaan
1 Riedquat edse
1 Ishmael LazyMcCrow
1 edse CountArach
1 CountArach Chaotix

2 No Vote DaveShack, atheotes

Day 2
3 SalmonSoil: Edse, Arjos, Riedquat
2 Lewwyn: Count Arach, Daveshack
2 Yaropolk: Visorslash, Ishmael
2 Redquiat: Lewwyn, LazyMcCrow
1 LazyMcCrow: Atheotoes

1 Salmonsoil: (Chaotix)
1 Lewwyn: (Yaropolk)

4 No Vote: Montmorency, Greyblades, issaikhaan, SalmonSoil, Tuuvi

And what are your thoughts on Yaropolk, The Time Traveler. Surely he must be innocent?

edit: This is hard work...

edit2: Riedquats vote is either on Yaropolk or Salmonsoil so one of the should have been lynched. only way is that it is on Yaropolk and since he can't be lynched twice it was a tie between Lewwyn and Salmonsoil that Lewwyn lost since Salmonsoil is dead already.

[Greyblades]

Tell me about it.

[Lewwyn]

Doh... I did something you probably won't like... this night I was time-travelling, supposedly... do not know if i was killed before or after my little trip, if before no harm done. If after... I changed my vote from Salmon to Yaro :embarassed:

Was this the Day 2 vote?


BTW looking for scum, Khann only has one post beyond his sign up. I find that disconcerting.

[edse]

Was this the Day 2 vote?


BTW looking for scum, Khann only has one post beyond his sign up. I find that disconcerting.

I assumed it was last days vote but I see now that it could have been the first days vote.

[Riedquat]

Was this the Day 2 vote?

Day 1....

I had this terrible feeling somebody was going to try to kill me...

[Chaotix]

NOBODY is confirmed innocent. NOBODY, not even if they were killed by mafia.

Both Lewwyn and Visor are not to be trusted. Further, be careful of Monty, though I have a better feeling about him than the other two.

Potential Vote: Visorslash

[Greyblades]

*Blink*
Why? Arjos died before anything else could have happened and yet there were three kills that night, are we to believe there are 4 killing roles on such a small game?

[edse]

Vote: Visorslash

[Montmorency]

Don't be silly, Chaotix.

Alright, guys: Visor has previously soft-claimed Dr. Who. Perhaps we should take that into consideration? This might be a good place to set up a close vote.

4 on Visor, 2 Potential?

Anyway: Who is The Time Traveller in fiction? The Wells character?

[LazyMcCrow]

Don't be silly, Chaotix.

Alright, guys: Visor has previously soft-claimed Dr. Who. Perhaps we should take that into consideration? This might be a good place to set up a close vote.

4 on Visor, 2 Potential?

Anyway: Who is The Time Traveller in fiction? The Wells character?

Maybe - though I actually thought that it was the Time Traveller from 'The Time Travellers' Wife' :D
So maybe Yaro is played by Eric Bana when this gets made into a film :inquisitive:

[Yaropolk]

Potential Vote: Monty

[DaveShack]

The back and forth on character names and what we think of them is good. Though I wouldn't consider anything to be guaranteed by just a name.

In the meantime, there need to be some lesser options open for vote changing targets. Maybe use someone we wouldn't miss yet given their inactivity, on the idea that we can unlynch someone else if necessary? Vote: Khaan

[SalmonSoil]

Our plan is obvious, time travel back in time to save Lewwyn, so he can change his night 1 kill from me to someone else, then lynch him again. Then I will be alive and the town will have a chance at victory.

But actually that doesn't seem very likely, looks like I'm dead forever, unless Lewwyn is lying.

[Visor]

Told ya, bandwagon.

Anyway: If CB would let role names be revealed, either they are unimportant, or shock and horror, the mafia have cover roles.

If you guys want to revive Lewwyn, go ahead, but I don't trust it, especially the post reveal as a vig. I say the less kills the better.

[Tuuvi]

Told ya, bandwagon.

Anyway: If CB would let role names be revealed, either they are unimportant, or shock and horror, the mafia have cover roles.

If you guys want to revive Lewwyn, go ahead, but I don't trust it, especially the post reveal as a vig. I say the less kills the better.

I didn't trust Lewwyn's post reveal as a vig either, seems suspicious to me.


I was going to join the bandwagon and vote for Visorslash, but I don't feel like I can do that just after I agreed with him on something. I guess I'll Vote: Khaan along with DaveShack, I don't know who else to vote for.

Oh and apologies for missing the last couple of rounds. I had the flu and because of my fever I wasn't up to trying to figure this stuff out. I know I made some posts in the backroom but posting my crappy opinions doesn't tax my brain as much lol.

[Montmorency]

Told ya, bandwagon.

Anyway: If CB would let role names be revealed, either they are unimportant, or shock and horror, the mafia have cover roles.

If you guys want to revive Lewwyn, go ahead, but I don't trust it, especially the post reveal as a vig. I say the less kills the better.

Eh, 4 votes. Just vote Khaan to tie it or something. I'll be watching this round carefully in the future. If you don't want to lean on your alleged role, then we could just lynch you outright, the old-fashioned way.


Our plan is obvious, time travel back in time to save Lewwyn, so he can change his night 1 kill from me to someone else, then lynch him again. Then I will be alive and the town will have a chance at victory.


Good luck with that.

Lewwyn's truthfulness is immaterial - he's not going anywhere.

[Visor]

I didn't trust Lewwyn's post reveal as a vig either, seems suspicious to me.


I was going to join the bandwagon and vote for Visorslash, but I don't feel like I can do that just after I agreed with him on something. I guess I'll Vote: Khaan along with DaveShack, I don't know who else to vote for.

Oh and apologies for missing the last couple of rounds. I had the flu and because of my fever I wasn't up to trying to figure this stuff out. I know I made some posts in the backroom but posting my crappy opinions doesn't tax my brain as much lol.

You can agree with me and still vote for me. It's called hypocrisy.

Vote: Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

[Montmorency]

You can agree with me and still vote for me. It's called hypocrisy.

Vote: Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

Not at all - it's called prioritization.

[Visor]

:stare:

[Visor]

@ CB

YOu could've made my role so much cooler if I was a sibling/mason partnership with Ted. :sad:

[Montmorency]

YOu could've made my role so much cooler if I was a sibling/mason partnership with Ted.

What -

[edse]

Now the question about day one's lynch. Shall we make another try at finding scum or should we move it to one of those killed night one to gain one townie?

[Visor]

Oh I'm sorry, did I accidentally roleclaim and contradict my soft claim when I hadn't read my role PM?

Whoop de frickin do.

[edse]

Now the question about day one's lynch. Shall we make another try at finding scum or should we move it to one of those killed night one to gain one townie?

Yeah, I agree, we better start thinking about it.

Lets see, green are people dead at the moment (Visorslash included), blue are solid votes (previously changed).

4 Yaropolk Lewwyn, Tuuvi, Ishmael, Riedquat
2 Greyblades Arjos, Yarapolk
2 Arjos Greyblades, Montmorency
2 Montmorency Visorslash, SalmonSoil
1 SalmonSoil issaikhaan
1 Riedquat edse
1 Ishmael LazyMcCrow
1 edse CountArach
1 CountArach Chaotix

2 No Vote DaveShack, atheotes

Options.

1) stay with Yaropolk
-no actions needed
-possibilities to change next night
2) testing Montmorency or Greyblades
-Tuuvi needs to change his vote together with one other
-probably no possibility to change the outcome one more time
3) lynch Salmonsoil or Chaotix (the ones killed night 1)
- Tuuvi+2 to lynch Salmon and Tuuvi+3 to lynch Chaotix
- Result written in stone

[CountArach]

@ CB

YOu could've made my role so much cooler if I was a sibling/mason partnership with Ted. :sad:
So you're claiming Bill from Bill and Ted's Adventures? I'm pretty sure that role name reveals aren't allowed.

As for the people voting khaan, I think it would be odd for someone in this sort of game to not post if they were one of the mafia players. There are a lot of odd mechanics that will, at the least, require clarification.

[Visor]

So you're claiming Bill from Bill and Ted's Adventures? I'm pretty sure that role name reveals aren't allowed.

As for the people voting khaan, I think it would be odd for someone in this sort of game to not post if they were one of the mafia players. There are a lot of odd mechanics that will, at the least, require clarification.

I believe CB said they are.

And what good will it do anyway? I'm an easy lynch because I don't trust Lewwyn. Okay.

[LazyMcCrow]

@ CB

YOu could've made my role so much cooler if I was a sibling/mason partnership with Ted. :sad:


What -

Was that the moment that you remembered you were Ted?

[Lewwyn]

If someone unlynches me I can help to unlynch Yaropolk on Day 1 by moving off of him to Greyblades and tying them up. Then we only need 1 other person to move onto Greyblades. We will need to make sure we lynch Reidquat on Day 2 however since he is night killed following that and the other person to be lynched was Yaropolk. Sorry Riedquat.

I'm actually going to put in a day order to switch my Day 1 vote now so that when I'm revived that order goes straight into effect.

Also interesting that I put Khaan up as suspicious and everyone starts voting for him. People coming out of the woodwork, ie: tuuvi and Dave.

[Lewwyn]

Unvote: Vote: Tuuvi

As said before I find people coming out of the woodwork suspicious and we already have enough people on Visor, and technically I'm still dead anyway.

[Visor]

By the way, I haven't travelled back to any day phase just yet, so if you guys could unlynch me at some stage, I could actually be useful.

[CountArach]

Unvote: Vote: Tuuvi

As said before I find people coming out of the woodwork suspicious and we already have enough people on Visor, and technically I'm still dead anyway.
This seems like a more sensible approach than someone with 0 game posts IMO.

[Visor]

Well, its either Khaan or me. :shrug:

[atheotes]

the MO for CountArach's kill is different to the other mafia kills. Am i the only one who thinks this could have been a timetravel kill? I never seem to know when the kill write ups are for flavor and when they are supposed to mean something. :help:

Reviving Lewwyyn is a bad idea. I dont believe he is town-aligned. He seems to be looking for someone in particular to kill.
I suspect that there are 3 mafia roles with 2 kills between them. Otherwise it might be very difficult for the mafia to win.

I think we should change the votes for D1 and D2 (if possible...need to check the tally).

[Visor]

the MO for CountArach's kill is different to the other mafia kills. Am i the only one who thinks this could have been a timetravel kill? I never seem to know when the kill write ups are for flavor and when they are supposed to mean something. :help:

Reviving Lewwyyn is a bad idea. I dont believe he is town-aligned. He seems to be looking for someone in particular to kill.
I suspect that there are 3 mafia roles with 2 kills between them. Otherwise it might be very difficult for the mafia to win.

I think we should change the votes for D1 and D2 (if possible...need to check the tally).

And let me guess... no one will vote to lynch you. :rolleyes:

[atheotes]

the MO for CountArach's kill is different to the other mafia kills. Am i the only one who thinks this could have been a timetravel kill? I never seem to know when the kill write ups are for flavor and when they are supposed to mean something. :help:

Reviving Lewwyyn is a bad idea. I dont believe he is town-aligned. He seems to be looking for someone in particular to kill.
I suspect that there are 3 mafia roles with 2 kills between them. Otherwise it might be very difficult for the mafia to win.

I think we should change the votes for D1 and D2 (if possible...need to check the tally).

Just realized that vote change for D2 will revive Lewwyyn, which i dont want.:shame:
We should change D2 votes only if we can lynch Lewwyyn in D1...thereby reviving Salmon as well.

[SalmonSoil]

Why have you guys killed me so hard? For me to actually be alive you have to unlynch both me and Lewwyn on day 2, and then Lewwyn has to change his night kill....

I feel unloved.

[atheotes]

And let me guess... no one will vote to lynch you. :rolleyes:
Dont care.
I will timetravel tonight to D1 and vote. perhaps me and Tuuvi should lynch greyblades. that way we still have a chance to revive Greyblades the next night.

or the other option is to lynch the most scumiest person....which at the moment we dont seem to have a clear idea.

Vote: Montmorency - you seem to indicate you know more about whats happening, but not letting on.

[atheotes]

Why have you guys killed me so hard? For me to actually be alive you have to unlynch both me and Lewwyn on day 2, and then Lewwyn has to change his night kill....

I feel unloved.

Did you not see my post above? if we can lynch Lewwyn D1, we can revive you. But we will need more people to TT.

[edse]

It's important that nobody do as Montmorency and Riedquat have done, going back in time to save your own skin because you feel threatened. It has only made our work, controlling the previous lynches, harder.

[atheotes]

It's important that nobody do as Montmorency and Riedquat have done, going back in time to save your own skin because you feel threatened. It has only made our work, controlling the previous lynches, harder.

One of the reasons why i find Montmorency scummy. I really think he should be lynched.

[Visor]

Dont care.
I will timetravel tonight to D1 and vote. perhaps me and Tuuvi should lynch greyblades. that way we still have a chance to revive Greyblades the next night.

or the other option is to lynch the most scumiest person....which at the moment we dont seem to have a clear idea.

Vote: Montmorency - you seem to indicate you know more about whats happening, but not letting on.

Well, I mean that people are voting me for having the opinion that you hold. But you won't be lynched for it. So if you don't mind helping me lynch Khaan, we can kill Monty tomorrow.

[edse]

Unvote: vote: Montmorency

I will try to make a correct tally of today including a part with the dead's votes. It might take a while.

[Visor]

FINE THEN!

Unvote; Vote: Montmorency

[edse]

3 VisorSlash: Montmorency, LazyMcCrow, Arjos
3 Montmorency: atheotes, edse, Visorslash
2 Khaan: DaveShack, Tuuvi

3 No vote: Greyblades, Ishmael, Khaan

1 Visorslash: Chaotix
1 Montmorency: Yaropolk
1 Tuuvi: Lewwyn

3 No vote: CountArach, Riedquat, SalmonSoil

If we save Yaropolk and test Greyblades on day one, Montmorency will be hanged if this situation remains and we will be able to test him as well.

edit: unless Greyblades killed Chaotix, then it will be a tie between Visorslash and Montmorency. If we are lucky and the coin lynches one first and then the other we can have all three tested by tomorrow.

[atheotes]

3 VisorSlash: Montmorency, LazyMcCrow, Arjos
3 Montmorency: atheotes, edse, Visorslash
2 Khaan: DaveShack, Tuuvi

3 No vote: Greyblades, Ishmael, Khaan

1 Visorslash: Chaotix
1 Montmorency: Yaropolk
1 Tuuvi: Lewwyn

3 No vote: CountArach, Riedquat, SalmonSoil

If we save Yaropolk and test Greyblades on day one, Montmorency will be hanged if this situation remains and we will be able to test him as well.

I am ok with that. we need Tuuvi to change his D1 vote. I will change my D1 vote as well.

[CountArach]

Potential Vote: Visorslash

I don't think Montmorency is scummy, he is hinting at too much and saving his own skin on day one would be an amateur move.

[Visor]

Potential Vote: Visorslash

I don't think Montmorency is scummy, he is hinting at too much and saving his own skin on day one would be an amateur move.

Damned zombies...

[edse]

Well then Visor is lynched if Greyblades killed both Chaotix and CountArnach, If he killed one of them it's a tie and if none of them Monty is lynched.

The round should be over in 1 hour. I will be away for 20 hours. just make sure that Tuuvi and atheotes change to Greyblades on day 1. Nothing else.

[Greyblades]

People we really shouldnt be messing around with the first day lynch unless we know exactly who to lynch, this is an unmissable oppertunity; if we lynch one of the mafia on day one we will be reviving everyone he's killed, this could be the difference between defeat on day 5 and victory on day 7. And no I dont think we should revive Lewwyn even if he's really a vigilante as I really dont consider salmonsoil enough of a boon to risk reviving a mafia. Heck if we are so desperate to get salmonsoil we could get arjos to change his vote on day 2 to Lewwyn and have everyone else use time machines to bandwagon Lewwyn on day one, though I've already said why messing around with day one isnt such a good idea.

[Arjos]

About Khaan, he's always like that: rarely has time, but meh you never know...

And I agree about D1, let's use another phase...
Either Lewwyn kills who we want, or we lynch him and revive his victims...

[atheotes]

Potential Vote: Visorslash

I don't think Montmorency is scummy, he is hinting at too much and saving his own skin on day one would be an amateur move.

he is hinting at too much without saying much...
Also, he claimed that he changed his D1 vote to savings his own skin. By claiming that, he has ensured that more townie vote switches will have to happen and also, he cannot be asked to go back to D1 using up a night's action.

[atheotes]

Well then Visor is lynched if Greyblades killed both Chaotix and CountArnach, If he killed one of them it's a tie and if none of them Monty is lynched.

The round should be over in 1 hour. I will be away for 20 hours. just make sure that Tuuvi and atheotes change to Greyblades on day 1. Nothing else.

There are too many combinations that it is impractical to consider them. Lynch Greyblades on D1 and if found not guilty, he can be revived the next day pretty easily.

[Visor]

People we really shouldnt be messing around with the first day lynch unless we know exactly who to lynch, this is an unmissable oppertunity; if we lynch one of the mafia on day one we will be reviving everyone he's killed, this could be the difference between defeat on day 5 and victory on day 7. And no I dont think we should revive Lewwyn even if he's really a vigilante as I really dont consider salmonsoil enough of a boon to risk reviving a mafia. Heck if we are so desperate to get salmonsoil we could get arjos to change his vote on day 2 to Lewwyn and have everyone else use time machines to bandwagon Lewwyn on day one, though I've already said why messing around with day one isnt such a good idea.

I should wait for other people that have the same opinion that I do to post first next time.... maybe I won't get horribly bandwagoned.

[Arjos]

he is hinting at too much without saying much...
Also, he claimed that he changed his D1 vote to savings his own skin. By claiming that, he has ensured that more townie vote switches will have to happen and also, he cannot be asked to go back to D1 using up a night's action.

Since he changed his vote and there were three attacks, either he didn't or all you said is bollocks...


I should wait for other people that have the same opinion that I do to post first next time.... maybe I won't get horribly bandwagoned.

Or someone who provides you with a decent reason :P

[atheotes]

Since he changed his vote and there were three attacks, either he didn't or all you said is bollocks...

isnt that the case with all such theories :laugh4:

To me it does sound like something the mafia will do...

[Greyblades]

There are too many combinations that it is impractical to consider them. Lynch Greyblades on D1 and if found not guilty, he can be revived the next day pretty easily.

Thanks guys, really appreciate that your lynching me out of the blue like that.

[Visor]

Since he changed his vote and there were three attacks, either he didn't or all you said is bollocks...



Or someone who provides you with a decent reason :P

I'm tired and have an exam I haven't studied for tomorrow. Sue me. :tongue:

[CountArach]

isnt that the case with all such theories :laugh4:

To me it does sound like something the mafia will do...
To be fair what Arjos said makes a lot of sense. Montmorency going back proves his innocence because otherwise the mafia would have missed out on a kill.

[Montmorency]

Profound.

I step off for a few hours, and you try to lynch me.

And again the talk of going back to D1.

Guess what? Tonight is your last chance to change the D1 vote. The last chance.

Try not being really thick about this, please.

[Visor]

Then help me lynch Khaan?

[atheotes]

To be fair what Arjos said makes a lot of sense. Montmorency going back proves his innocence because otherwise the mafia would have missed out on a kill.

Do you have proof that he went back? perhaps i am missing something...


Profound.

I step off for a few hours, and you try to lynch me.

And again the talk of going back to D1.

Guess what? Tonight is your last chance to change the D1 vote. The last chance.

Try not being really thick about this, please.


Again, nothing of substance!


Thanks guys, really appreciate that your lynching me out of the blue like that.
Do you have any other viable suggestion?

[Montmorency]

Do you have proof that he went back?


Who did, then? You? :laugh4:

Atheotes, what do you have that is of substance; you don't seem to have a clue of what's going on?

[Visor]

And you do? :rolleyes:

[Montmorency]

I see what my eyes pass over, eh?

[Visor]

Amazing. Give this man a medal.

[Montmorency]

I'd prefer your dissolution.

[Captain Blackadder]

Half an hour until the round ends.

[Visor]

So would a lot of people, your point?

[Greyblades]

Do you have any other viable suggestion?

Lewwyyn, lynch lewwyyn, lynch me on day 2 if you must but to lynch me on day one would render me unrevivable, this way you get both me dead and salmonsoil, another confirmed towine revived, then you can get me back next turn.

[atheotes]

Who did, then? You? :laugh4:

Atheotes, what do you have that is of substance; you don't seem to have a clue of what's going on?


Who did, then? You? :laugh4:

Atheotes, what do you have that is of substance; you don't seem to have a clue of what's going on?

you speak as if it is cast-iron certain that you went...enlighten me.

I may not have found anything of substance, atleast i am trying...not simply posting snide remarks:wink3:

[Montmorency]

My point? That scum is driving the last-minute lynch?

[Visor]

My point? That scum is driving the last-minute lynch?

Really now? I'm not scum and I would happy to watch you explode.

[atheotes]

Lewwyyn, lynch lewwyyn, lynch me on day 2 if you must but to lynch me on day one would render me unrevivable, this way you get both me dead and salmonsoil, another confirmed towine revived, then you can get me back next turn.

I am ok with that, we need more people to change votes in that case...we also need to look into the D2 lynch possibilities.

I still think lynching you on D1 makes it easier to revive you.

[Montmorency]

you speak as if it is cast-iron certain that you went...enlighten me.


There is reference to it in the N1 writeup, and no one has challenged me by claiming to have gone.

Also, Greyblades has much more credibility than you at the moment.

[Greyblades]

I am ok with that, we need more people to change votes in that case...we also need to look into the D2 lynch possibilities.

I still think lynching you on D1 makes it easier to revive you.

Yeah but if you kill me on day 1 you wont be able to get lewwyyn's kill back.

[Captain Blackadder]

Round Over prepare for write up.

[Arjos]

Then let's lynch Lewwyn on D1 (if math allows it), we get Yaro and Salmon back...
And lynch someone else in D2...

Visor's party gets less kills, we get to confirm Visor's role (tie willing it) and if in the future we have to lynch Monty, so be it :P
Everyone wins?

[Montmorency]

Yaro would be lynched on D2 without Lewwyn.

If your very last D1 push gets Salmon back, go for it.

Just know that it will be your very last D1 adventure.

[Greyblades]

Explain.

[Montmorency]

You played your part in this. Why don't you begin?

[Greyblades]

:sigh:
To put enough votes on someone to lynch them on day one we will end up with maybe one or two people who can still go back to day 1, in other words the people who died night one will stay dead because there aren't enough unchanged votes left. If we go through with this our greatest chance to undo the most damage will be lost unless we are lucky enough to get a mafia.

[Captain Blackadder]

3 VisorSlash: Montmorency, LazyMcCrow, Arjos
3 Montmorency: atheotes, edse, Visorslash
2 Khaan: DaveShack, Tuuvi

3 No vote: Greyblades, Ishmael, Khaan

As the day ends once more on TIME headquarters Inspector Spacetime once again tallies up the votes. He determines that it is once again a draw. He looks at the people gathered before him and flips a coin. The result of it this time is heads which points to Bill (Visorslash) Inspector Spacetime orders Bill to stand. 'Do you have anything to say in your defence Bill before judgement is passed?' Bill looks at them. 'Why are you killing me the most excellent gentlemen dickweeds? Come on dudes I was suppossed to make the word better with my most excellent music.' With these final words Inspector Spacetime moves to remove him from the time stream. 'Wyld Stallyns rule keep on been excellent.'

Bill (Visorslash) is dead

Begin Night 3

[Montmorency]

Good.

Is he from that "Where's My Car" movie?


To put enough votes on someone to lynch them on day one we will end up with maybe one or two people who can still go back to day 1, in other words the people who died night one will stay dead because there aren't enough unchanged votes left. We will have no way of lynching anyone on day 1; if we go through with this our greatest chance to undo the most damage will be lost.

Moreover: Ishmael
LazyMcCrow
Edse
Tuuvi
Greyblades
Khann
Arjos
Atheotes
Daveshack
Montmorency

There should be 5 votes on Yaro: Ishmael, Greyblades, Riedquat, Tuuvi and the other guy. Grey and Ish both went yesterday.

Two here are scum, three have already gone back and changed their votes. There is no overlap.

If you can get Tuuvi, you will need two others to change the vote. That leaves two free. Perhaps they are NKed that very night. Who, then, is left? Not a single person will have the abilty to visit D1 following this night, if you attempt and succeed in lynching Greyblades.

[Visor]

:laugh4: Love it.

One of my favourite deaths ever. Props CB.

Also, if you guys could save me....

[Greyblades]

Blackadder is there any chance we could persuade you to use quotation marks in the writeups when one of the characters is speaking.

[Montmorency]

You have nothing, then?

No desire to organize a mission?

[Greyblades]

Who me? Nah, its too early to see if visor's death turns out to lower the kill count, day one's out of the question and changing day 2 would revive what I suspect is a serial killer/mafia. I dont even know if killing a time agent is decernable by the writeups in this game.

[Visor]

I'll Bill. Bill doesn't kill people.

You people lynched a townie, get over it, move on, win the game, blah blah blah.

[Riedquat]

It's important that nobody do as Montmorency and Riedquat have done, going back in time to save your own skin because you feel threatened. It has only made our work, controlling the previous lynches, harder.

But we learned something, the first write-up reference to a saving by time-travelling was false or we got that part wrong.

[Montmorency]

But we learned something, the first write-up reference to a saving by time-travelling was false or we got that part wrong.

As Arach (?) said, that would mean Mafia would be unable to kill anyone if everyone traveled at night.

[SalmonSoil]

You guys seem to have wagoned Yaro pretty hard day 1, which makes reviving me pretty much impossible, and wasting most of our day 1 lynches (although anyone revived would still have their night action). This is exactly what we've been trying to warn against, and can only be good for the scum.

However, if it is possible to revive me by killing Lewwyn day 1 the town will gain an extra day (presuming no mafia are discovered), even if you let my day 2 lynch occur. I don't think you should necessarily use all those time travels on this though, but if you decide to you have to do it before the mafia can thin the towns ranks too much.

[Montmorency]

You can be revived by three (out of five possible) going back, but you will be the only one revived (Lewwyn's only kill, if he is a killer), and it's likely that either you or Yaro will be lynched on D2, going by the tally. Not only would 3 have to go back, but at least one would have to go to D2 and put Riedquat in the lead.

That requires very tight organization.

The big problem here is disorganization, and I don't think that can be surmounted in 23 hours.

If town can run like a well-oiled machine and approach the mission with all the weight of a disaster-movie TEAM, it is possible that Yaro and Salmon can be revived. That would give us a day. If only one is revived, that would give us nothing.

[edse]

You are avare that you die Monty if Lewwyn is lynched on day one unless we do alot more vote changing. And Greyblades is trying very hard not to get tested.

[Montmorency]

1. If you test Greyblades, it's done. You will never bring him back.

2.
You are avare that you die Monty if Lewwyn is lynched on day one unless we do alot more vote changing.

Do you mean this in terms of potential votes? I could not confirm this from a scan of the D2 or D3 votes. Explain.

[Arjos]

I should change to lynch Lewwyn D1...
Those who can't travel to D1 anymore could vote for a new lynch in D2 (Grey?)

Salmon didn't potential this round and Yaro did it against Monty, but no matter we get to name reveal Monty...
Anyone has a tally for D1 and D2 post-changes?

Visor would be revived, but he can't act the night anyway and the next one Salmon and Yaro can change on him...


If you can get Tuuvi, you will need two others to change the vote. That leaves two free. Perhaps they are NKed that very night. Who, then, is left? Not a single person will have the abilty to visit D1 following this night, if you attempt and succeed in lynching Greyblades.

Even if they get NKed, being alive in the day of change, desn't allow them to travel?
Or also: they travel and then get killed, in a sense both events happen in the same moment...

[Greyblades]

You are avare that you die Monty if Lewwyn is lynched on day one unless we do alot more vote changing. And Greyblades is trying very hard not to get tested.

I've told you, if you want to test me I would be happy if you would do it on day 2 and make sure lewwyyn dies on day one, we really dont need any more night kills.

And make sure there's enough votes left over to bring me back!

[Montmorency]

I should change to lynch Lewwyn D1...
Those who can't travel to D1 anymore could vote for a new lynch in D2 (tuuvi?)

Salmon didn't potential this round and Yaro did it against Monty, but no matter we get to name reveal Monty...
Anyone has a tally for D1 and D2 post-changes?

Visor would be revived, but he can't act the night anyway and the next one Salmon and Yaro can change on him...

Greyblades or Ishmael: couldn't you vote Visor tonight, then? You didn't even vote D3.

Lynch Riedquat D2. He already has two votes ( I think; see below), and he was killed afterwards anyway.


Yaropolk Visorslash, Ishmael
Lewwyn Count Arach, Daveshack,Yaropolk 3 Votes Lynched
SalmonSoil Redquiat, Edse
LazyMcCrow Atheotoes
Redquiat Lewwyn, Edse

???

Please clear that up, edse.

[Arjos]

Riedquat is fine for me...
We just need a tally and decide who votes who :)

[Montmorency]

Remember, you need 3 to switch onto Lewwyn if Tuuvi is one of them (one of the Yaro voters, who should have 5 votes). Otherwise, you need 4. Of course, you could always settle with 3, or 2 (yourself and Tuuvi), if you feel like running the tie-lynch gauntlet!

Who is even active here?

Arjos, edse, ?

For D2: Montmorency, Grey, Ish, ?

[Riedquat]

Yeah! Lynch that thug! :yes:

Seriously. Do it!

[LazyMcCrow]

Remember, you need 3 to switch onto Lewwyn if Tuuvi is one of them (one of the Yaro voters, who should have 5 votes). Otherwise, you need 4. Of course, you could always settle with 3, or 2 (yourself and Tuuvi), if you feel like running the tie-lynch gauntlet!

Who is even active here?

Arjos, edse, ?

For D2: Montmorency, Grey, Ish, ?

Lurking without intent and reporting for duty!

[Arjos]

Who is even active here?

Eh eh, that's the real enemy XD


Yeah! Lynch that thug! :yes:

Seriously. Do it!

Just testing while we can ^^

[Montmorency]

Now you just need Tuuvi or atheotes or Khan.

Better take two?

With at least half the survivors running around, where is the Mafia?

[Arjos]

With at least half the survivors running around, where is the Mafia?

Visor did lie, but gah :s
Anyway imo we shouldn't change D3 for now, better to get Monty's reveal too...

[Montmorency]

I did technically reveal on P1...

[Arjos]

I did technically reveal on P1...

I know, but lynch baits? No thanks, get whole town on the same track...

[Montmorency]

Very well. I promise not to vote Yaro on D2, if you can ensure that the D3 tipping will be reversed by two individuals on N4.

I desire promises from multiple parties.

[Arjos]

I desire promises from multiple parties.

Well, bloody eggs, we are bringing back Yaro and Salmon, least they can do is play ball XD
Anyway we need the tally to check where the mafia could mess up, unless they just kill...

[CountArach]

Very well. I promise not to vote Yaro on D2, if you can ensure that the D3 tipping will be reversed by two individuals on N4.

I desire promises from multiple parties.
This is not necessarily the best idea. I'm almost 100% that you are innocent, based on the night 1 travelling. Better to do this kill and reveal thing with someone else IMO.

[Arjos]

This is not necessarily the best idea. I'm almost 100% that you are innocent, based on the night 1 travelling. Better to do this kill and reveal thing with someone else IMO.

And I agree, but last thing we need is another silly tie...

[Montmorency]

1. Add two votes onto Visor tonight.
2. Do so N4.

No ties in sight.

[Arjos]

Don't think we have enough to do it tonight with D1 and D2 too no?

[LazyMcCrow]

I re-read the posts of the day with hope that any task might be clearer, but I have no idea what is going on now.
There seems to be little consensus as to what needs to be achieved, let alone who shall undertake missions back to Night One.
I shall await further clarity of instruction before committing to anything - though I shall be afk in an hour or so.

[Montmorency]

Alright, I'll draft this:

D1 (Vote for Lewwyn):

-Arjos
-Crow
-DaveShack OR Tuuvi OR Khan OR Atheotes (either Tuuvi, or 2 of the other 3; PM Tuuvi)

ath
kjn
tuuv

D2 (Vote for Riedquat)

*The tally is clearly flawed; is edse really voting for Riedquat? It seems he actually voted for Salmon D2
-Edse changes vote from Salmon to Riedquat; I vote Ried, from No Lynch

D3 (Vote Visor)

-Ishmael
-Greyblades

How is this? Time to send out the PMs?

Remember, if everyone's involved, we can see who is or isn't scum! Try to get all four of them on the D1 Wagon

[Arjos]

I'm not 100% sure, but this should be it:

D1: me, Tuuvi, Lazy, DaveShack and Atheotes (if possible Khaan too); change to vote Lewwyn.

D2: edse and Monty; change to vote Riedquat.

This should put 5 (or 6) on Lewwyn and 3 on Riedquat...

D3: Greyblades and Ishmael; change to vote Visorslash.

Please follow these instructions time travelers! ^^

[Montmorency]

I'd say take Daveshack, as the D1 matter is most important.

The potential tally is correct; I'll go with edse.

[Arjos]

Fixed :)

[Montmorency]

Order sent - confirm.

Have Tuuvi, Daveshack, and Khan received PMs?

[DaveShack]

What's the desired result?

[Montmorency]

Go back to D1 to lynch Lewwyn, which, if he tells the truth, will bring back his sole victim Salmonsoil (N1 Kill).

Salmon is up for a lynch on D2, tied with Yaropolk (who will also be saved, by shifting from him to Lewwyn on D1), so the new D2 lynch must be Riedquat, who is killed N2 anyway.

Yaropolk cast a Potential Vote on me D3, so Visor's lynch should be solidified to prevent my death by Yaro's return.

You are to participate in the most important phase: D1.

[Lewwyn]

FYI I put in an order to kill DaveShack last night so if I'm revived he;s dead. But I urge the town to go back and look at his uselessness. Man I'm so drunk right now. We sa the Chinese Hellcats and they were pertty rockign. Not sure who they really are but I had a good time.

HAHAHA I don't even care anymore. But Dave shack is certainly mafia. CountArach was killed to make it haredr to unlynch me, but Dave wasn't and look at his posts1?! really dude? You'er so scum. So scum.

I'm a townie and you guys can do whatever you want, I'm so over your foolishness.

[Montmorency]

You claimed SK/Vig. We want to revive Salmon and Yaro.

[Lewwyn]

I'm a vigilante what am I supposed to do not kill someone? And I am helping to bring yaro back I already changed my Day 1 vote if I'm revived to Greyblades. The only person I've killed is Salmon is his life worth more than a vigs? whatever seriously I'm gonna go listen to music and enjoy my buzz. you can go eat a buttcrack

[Montmorency]

you can go eat a buttcrack

You mean I should put on -

( •_•)

( •_•)>⌐■-■

(⌐■_■)

one of these: :grin:?

[Montmorency]

Is-is anyone actually going through with this?

Please report in...

[Greyblades]

Sorry, I'm waiting for a response to a question I asked the host about the time machine rules.

[Visor]

Go back to D1 to lynch Lewwyn, which, if he tells the truth, will bring back his sole victim Salmonsoil (N1 Kill).

Salmon is up for a lynch on D2, tied with Yaropolk (who will also be saved, by shifting from him to Lewwyn on D1), so the new D2 lynch must be Riedquat, who is killed N2 anyway.

Yaropolk cast a Potential Vote on me D3, so Visor's lynch should be solidified to prevent my death by Yaro's return.

You are to participate in the most important phase: D1.

Uh... Right. SO you're lynching me because I don't trust Lewwyn and you continue to want me dead based on no evidence. Well done Captain scum.

Please lynch this guy in the past ASAP.

[Montmorency]

No evidence? You did lie in your soft-claim.

You don't trust Lewwyn? Neither do we. That's why we want to lynch him on D1.

Of course, scum wouldn't trust a lone killer. :wink:

[Visor]

Soft claim, as in one of the first posts? Doctor Who is one of the most recognisable time travelers.

If you're town, at the end of the game, you must say: Visorslash, I'm sorry for being a fool and lynching someone as awesome and townie as you.

If you're scum (like I suspect), you don't have to obviously.

[Montmorency]

If you're town, at the end of the game, you must say: Visorslash, I'm sorry for being a fool and lynching someone as awesome and townie as you.

That's supposed to convince me?

This is how you acted in the Island.

[Ishmael]

I'm very sorry for my inactivity last round guys. In regards to Visorslash, I'm reasonably certain that he's innocent, based solely on the fact that I am Ted Logan of the Wyld Stallyns (did I spell that right?), and so I doubt my band buddy Bill would be mafia. Also, ignoring that, I'm still not convinced in his guilt to the extent that I'd want to solidify the lynch on him.

I do however feel we should test Montmorency at some point; considering that he is one of the major contributors here, it would be a great help to confirm that he isn't scum. We only have his word that he changed his vote N1, after all, so that can't be used as compelling evidence.

EDIT: Is there anything I overlooked in the argument against Visorslash? I only briefly read the past few pages, so I might have missed something.

[Montmorency]

Then I have to suspect you, I'm afraid. :disappointed:


A time machine has started up. A loud crack is heard as the figure disappears into the past. The others that have not chosen to do this wait to see who it is that will die.

It seems I'm doomed at any rate, at least for today. Ishmael's going to vote to save his buddy on D3 for sure tonight.

[Ishmael]

Oh, for crying out loud - I ask you to please consider this point, without instinctively shouting WIFOM! and disregarding it. Would a mafioso really reveal a connection to a person who has just been lynched, and who is strongly suspected of being mafia? Really?

EDIT: It's still not conclusive that it was you who time-travelled N1, although I admit that the fact nobody has claimed to have done so strengthens your case.

[Visor]

I'm very sorry for my inactivity last round guys. In regards to Visorslash, I'm reasonably certain that he's innocent, based solely on the fact that I am Ted Logan of the Wyld Stallyns (did I spell that right?), and so I doubt my band buddy Bill would be mafia. Also, ignoring that, I'm still not convinced in his guilt to the extent that I'd want to solidify the lynch on him.

I do however feel we should test Montmorency at some point; considering that he is one of the major contributors here, it would be a great help to confirm that he isn't scum. We only have his word that he changed his vote N1, after all, so that can't be used as compelling evidence.

EDIT: Is there anything I overlooked in the argument against Visorslash? I only briefly read the past few pages, so I might have missed something.

Kill the mafia dickweeds!

Oh and I'm considered mafia in the games I'm townie, and I'm considered townie in the games I'm mafia. This is stupid.

[Visor]

That's supposed to convince me?

This is how you acted in the Island.

When I roleclaimed as a killer on the second last day. (well, pretty much).

[Montmorency]

:shrug:

Fine, what if you (Ishmael) and Greyblades switch onto Khan? Would that be tolerable?

[Ishmael]

Fine by me. When does this night phase end?

EDIT: So if we change the vote to lynch Khan, and Visorslash was mafia, then will there be one less kill tonight, or will the change not take effect until next night phase (that is, would Visor get his kill tonight or not)?

[Visor]

About 10pm. Australian eastern standard.

[Montmorency]

You have to remind Greyblades, though. Khan would be treated as the D3 lynch, effective immediately, with all effects applied.

And where's the main task force?

Davesack, for one - are you in?

[Ishmael]

So we might want to wait until tomorrow night before changing the lynch on Visorslash, to see if it had any effect. Just because I'm not convinced he's scum, doesn't mean I think we shouldn't test him.

[Greyblades]

Fine by me. When does this night phase end?

EDIT: So if we change the vote to lynch Khan, and Visorslash was mafia, then will there be one less kill tonight, or will the change not take effect until next night phase (that is, would Visor get his kill tonight or not)?

I'm going to have to stop this before you wase your time, I can vouch for khan, I'm doc brown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Brown) he's marty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_McFly).

[Montmorency]

If you don't change with Grey either onto him or Khan, I will die by Yaro's vote he is after all one of the people tonight's operation is meant to revive.

Grey, are you masons?

Why didn't Bill and Ted know of each other?

[Greyblades]

Grey, are you masons?All I've got is a confirmation from the host on who he is, no defensive or offensive abilities.

[Montmorency]

Something does not smell right.

Two fictional pairs, only one wherein both know of each other.

How about this - simply vote Visor tonight, both of you. If I die by lynch, it will indicate that one of you is scum.

[Arjos]

EDIT: Is there anything I overlooked in the argument against Visorslash? I only briefly read the past few pages, so I might have missed something.

He lied about who he was, that has townie written all over?

[Montmorency]

Arjos, please confirm?

Where are Tuuvi, Edse, Atheotes, Daveshack, Khan, and Crow?

This is going to fail utterly.

[Visor]

If you don't change with Grey either onto him or Khan, I will die by Yaro's vote he is after all one of the people tonight's operation is meant to revive.

Grey, are you masons?

Why didn't Bill and Ted know of each other?

Two pairs of masons are unbalanced. Also, there is a role called neighbour in which you know the role of a person, but not their alignment.

Also @ Arjos. I never claimed Doctor Who. I made a joke about it as one of my first posts. You all took it as a soft claim, which was fun for a while, but it isn't funny when I am lynched because of stupid things that don't make sense.

[Montmorency]

Well, Visor, this is all irrelevant because it looks like Lewwyn will not be lynched.

The other 5 have abandoned us, town or scum.

[Arjos]

Also @ Arjos.

Pat yourself on the back for being counterproductive...


Arjos, please confirm?

Aye, done and done hours ago...

[Visor]

Pat yourself on the back for being counterproductive...

*facepalm* YOU took it as a softclaim. WHy the hell would anyone take it as a claim on day one, as a first (IIRC) post. I may not be that helpful, but at least I have tried. You seemed fixated on me for some stupid reason that I am scum because I lied about a joke. :inquisitive:

Besides, you're pretty sure I'm scum for a non alignment reveal game.

[Arjos]

*facepalm*

Mate, you being jokery and Monty not being trusted, I couldn't care less, both of you dead and revealed suits me...
Don't like having to waste rounds on this? Avoid this back and forth with Monty at least once XD

[Visor]

It will affect the chains of people as well. There will be no alignment reveals obviously. I wanted this to be a game where a comeback is possible at any stage at the game even when you think it is all done and won you could still lose.

Oh, would you look at that LazyMcCrow , Lewwyn
No alignment reveals, eh?


Mate, you being jokery and Monty not being trusted, I couldn't care less, both of you dead and revealed suits me...
Don't like having to waste rounds on this? Avoid this back and forth with Monty at least once XD

NEVER!

[Arjos]

Besides, you're pretty sure I'm scum for a non alignment reveal game.

I'm not sure, I'd like to read a night write-up after your lynch first...

Frankly, what's funny about claiming Who?
As your audience, this is me pelting tomatoes XD

Seriously you are being very "islandish"...

[Visor]

I'm not sure, I'd like to read a night write-up after your lynch first...

Frankly what's funny about claiming Who?
As your audience this is me pelting tomatoes XD

Seriously you are being very "islandish"...

I never claimed Who, for (hopefully) the last time! It was a joke, because the most well known time traveller for a lot of people is Doctor Who (or Marty and Doc Brown possibly, but he's up there). Almost everyone has heard of the TARDIS.

Islandish: I live in Australia, it's a pretty large island. SO yeah, I'm pretty islandish.

[DaveShack]

I'm working. IIRC, the round goes till something like 6am, so I was kinda holding off to see if y'all change your minds. Easier to keep the PM's straight that way.

I just thought of something interesting. My RL work involves ordering things in their proper time sequence. Here we're all about screwing with the time sequence. :juggle:

[Montmorency]

Please just vote/vote-switch onto Lewwyn on D1.

[DaveShack]

OK, done. Maybe I'll have time to figure out a good manipulation to propose for tomorrow, don't want you to have to do all the thinking.

[Ishmael]

Okay, I'll throw it open to the town (and mafia, for that matter) as to what I should do tonight. I believe the original plan was for me to either solidify the lynch on Visor or lynch Khan/Montmorency D3, but personally I feel that we should wait and see as to the effects of the Visorslash lynch before we do anything tonight. I am open to persuasion on this, however. I could also help out with whatever we're doing N2, if not enough people have shown up. I can't do anything N1.

[Montmorency]

D2 and D3 are irrelevant if not enough people fix D1, as the changes in the former follow from the latter.

If we could assume that Lewwyn would be lynched, your proper part would be to prevent my lynch by voting Visor.

Without at least Crow and/or Tuuvi for D1, D2's not happening. If they do show up, then there's a 50% of D3 not happening unless edse shows up. So unlikely that you will have to make a decision. Just stick around for the late round, I suppose.

[Tuuvi]

I'm here, changed my D1 vote to Lewwyn. Sorry to make you nervous Monty, I've been at work today.

Saw a couple of pages back that Lewwyn thinks I'm suspicious because I "came out of the woodwork", I just want to point out that I was active in the beginning of the game, until I got sick like I said earlier.

[CountArach]

I'm going to have to stop this before you wase your time, I can vouch for khan, I'm doc brown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Brown) he's marty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_McFly).

All I've got is a confirmation from the host on who he is, no defensive or offensive abilities.
This is scummy as hell.

[edse]

I already changed my vote even before the night started. From Salmon to Riedquat on night 2

I'm gonna do a lot of tallying now.

And I agree with CountArnach

[edse]

Day 1
4 Yaropolk Lewwyn, Tuuvi, Ishmael, Riedquat
2 Greyblades Arjos, Yarapolk
2 Arjos Greyblades, Montmorency
2 Montmorency Visorslash, SalmonSoil
1 SalmonSoil issaikhaan
1 Riedquat edse
1 Ishmael LazyMcCrow
1 edse CountArach
1 CountArach Chaotix

2 No Vote DaveShack, atheotes

Day 2
3 SalmonSoil: Edse, Arjos, Riedquat
2 Lewwyn: Count Arach, Daveshack
2 Yaropolk: Visorslash, Ishmael
2 Redquiat: Lewwyn, LazyMcCrow
1 LazyMcCrow: Atheotoes

1 Salmonsoil: (Chaotix)
1 Lewwyn: (Yaropolk)

4 No Vote: Montmorency, Greyblades, issaikhaan, SalmonSoil, Tuuvi

Day 3
3 VisorSlash: Montmorency, LazyMcCrow, Arjos
3 Montmorency: atheotes, edse, Visorslash
2 Khaan: DaveShack, Tuuvi

2 Visorslash: Chaotix, CountArach
1 Montmorency: Yaropolk
1 Tuuvi: Lewwyn

5 No vote: Greyblades, Ishmael, Khaan, Riedquat, SalmonSoil

Day 1's tally after all this is fixed tonight
Day 1
3 Lewwyn:Tuuvi, Arjos, DaveShack
2 Yaropolk Lewwyn, Ishmael
2 Arjos Greyblades, Montmorency
2 Montmorency Visorslash, SalmonSoil
2 SalmonSoil issaikhaan, Riedquat
1 Greyblades Yarapolk
1 Riedquat edse
1 Ishmael LazyMcCrow
1 edse CountArach
1 CountArach Chaotix

1 No Vote atheotes

With Lewwyn lynched day 1 instead of Yaropolk this will be the tally for day 2 If no one is lying.
Day 2
3 SalmonSoil: Edse, Arjos, Riedquat
3 Lewwyn: Count Arach, Daveshack, Yaropolk
2 Yaropolk: Visorslash, Ishmael
1 Redquiat: LazyMcCrow
1 LazyMcCrow: Atheotoes

1 Salmonsoil: Chaotix
1 Riedquat: Lewwyn

4 No Vote: Montmorency, Greyblades, issaikhaan, SalmonSoil, Tuuvi

However, I will change my vote so it is this. Lewwyn is already dead so he can't be lynched. You have agreed on lynching Riedquat so one more vote is needed.Day 2
3 Lewwyn: Count Arach, Daveshack, Yaropolk
2 SalmonSoil: Arjos, Riedquat
2 Yaropolk: Visorslash, Ishmael
2 Redquiat: LazyMcCrow, edse
1 LazyMcCrow: Atheotoes

1 Salmonsoil: Chaotix
1 Riedquat: Lewwyn

4 No Vote: Montmorency, Greyblades, issaikhaan, SalmonSoil, Tuuvi

Day 3 speculations can be quite inaccurate probably. Day 2's predictions should hold since we "know" that lewwyn killed Salmonsoil. This is the tally with Lewwyn lynched day 1 and Riedquat day 2 without other interference.

Day 3
4 Montmorency: atheotes, edse, Visorslash, Yaropolk
3 VisorSlash: Montmorency, LazyMcCrow, Arjos
2 Khaan: DaveShack, Tuuvi

2 Visorslash: Chaotix, CountArach
1 Tuuvi: Lewwyn

5 No vote: Greyblades, Ishmael, Khaan, Riedquat, SalmonSoil
So we need vote changes on Day 3 as well for everyone to be happy.

So, how is it? These are the people that have confirmed their vote change.

Day 1 to Lewwyn: Tuuvi, DaveShack, Arjos
Day 2 to Riedquat: edse and ?
Day 3 to ?: ?


Edit: There is a slight error here, since riedquat is killed before his time travel, let me fix this

Edit2: Hopefully everything is correct. I want Greyblades to change his vote Day 2 and and maybe Yaropolk day 3.

I bet the mafia will do time travel instead of killing tonight but since most of us are we cant be sure

[Greyblades]

This is scummy as hell.

Yup, lynch me if you wish.

[edse]

Yup, lynch me if you wish.

We wanted to but you said no.

Change your vote on Day two to Riedquat and everything is fine.

[Greyblades]

:inquisitive: Why Riedquat?

[edse]

:inquisitive: Why Riedquat?

Because he's killed the following night, he will reduce the amount of votes needed day one with one vote and is the best option as he have two votes atm (one mine changed).

Well, I'll go offline for about 24 hours again and I don't know if I will be in time to vote tomorrow. Lynch Greyblades if he really intends to mess this up.

[atheotes]

What do i have to do? Anything other than saving Monty i am up for it :beam:

[Captain Blackadder]

Round Over prepare for write up.

[Captain Blackadder]

Nightime falls over TIME once more the time machines spring to life cracking over with the smell of ozone wafting through the air. What will happen to the time stream this time? Who knows but for now we shall stay in what we should call for lack of a better word the present.

A figure stalks its prey once more hearing the sound of music playing. In tribute to his fallen friend Bill Ted (Ishmael) is playing a song one final time. He pulls out his guitar begins to smash down a kick arse guitar solo and begins to sing.

god gave rock and roll to you
gave rock and roll to you
put it in the soul of everyone
#
do you know what you want?
you don't know for sure
don't feel better
can't find the cure
and you're getting less than what you're looking for
don't have money for a fancy car
all the time yo're wishing on a falling star
you've got to put your faith in a loud guitar
#
god gave rock and roll to you
gave rock and roll to you
gave rock and roll to everyone
#
god gave rock and roll to you
gave rock and roll to you
put it in the soul of everyone
#
now listen!
#
you want to be a singer or play guitar
man you gotta sweat or you won't get far
'cause it's never too late to work nine to five
you can take a stand or you can compromise
you can work real hard or just fantasize
but you don't start living until you realize
#
i gotta tell ya!
#
god gave rock and roll to you
gave rock and roll to you
gave rock and roll to everyone
#
god gave rock and roll to you
gave rock and roll to you
put it in your soul

Once he finishes the song the figure standing by pull out his device and shoots Ted scattering his molecules to the wind.

Ishmael (Ted) is dead
When the people of TIME arrive the next morning they are sad to hear of the passing of the last Wyld Stallyn. As the begin to get ready for the next vote they hear a loud crash. MAJOR TIME STREAM ALTERATION DETECTED PREPARE FOR IMMINENT STABILISATION. Large cracks begin to appear in the walls of TIME. As Lewwyn (Kyle Reese) reappears. Daveshack (Martin Padway) disappears and finally Ishmael (Ted) is reappears




Montmorency
Visorslash Lynched Day Three
CountArach Killed Night Two
Lewwyn
Daveshack Killed Night Two
Chaotix Killed Night One
Atheothos
Yaropolk Lynched Day One
Arjos
Reidquat Lynched Day Two
Salmonsoil Killed Night One
Ishmael
LazyMcCrow
Edse
Tuuvi
Greyblades
Khann

[Montmorency]

:wall:

Bit of a muckup there, fellows.

So instead of Salmonsoil and Yaropolk, we get one professed killer.

I don't understand: who messed this up?

Tuuvi, Arjos, and Daveshack should have been enough to lynch Lewwyn.

And edse: What the heck? I said in the very first phase of planning that I would add my vote to Riedquat: "edse, Montmorency".

And in the end that doesn't even matter because the main objective fell through. Someone either lied - but it seems a Mafioso was operating, killing Ishmael. It seems the early death of Daveshack killed him. Perhaps Lewwyn had a kill on him?

Did the two scum not know of each other?

[CountArach]

I'm confused, why is Ishmael back if he was killed tonight? Doesn't that imply that the previous days' vote changes resulted in a dead mafioso?

[Montmorency]

Alright, a few observations:

1. The Lewwyn lynch failed, so someone interfered.
2. There have not been extra kills on N2 & N3 - did Lewwyn not cast Potential Kills? Did he lie about being an SK?
3. Daveshack died on N2 instead of Riedquat. This indicates a Mafia vote change, so his kill would not be wasted on Riedquat.
4. Ishmael was killed on N3, but the death on N2 of Daveshack saved him.

Conclusions:

1. Daveshack is scum, and on N3 he tried to kill Ishmael.
2. The second scum, who killed Riedquat N2, switched his N2 kill onto Daveshack.
3. The two scum did not know each others' identities.
4. When Lewwyn's revival, when factored in, should have lead to more deaths: on each on N2 & N3.
4a. Lewwyn is eithernot a killer, or a very forgetful one.

So what do we do with lying, apparently harmless, Lewwyn?

[Visor]

Can't keep a Wyld Stallyn down. Rock on Ishmael!

[CountArach]

So what do we do with lying, apparently harmless, Lewwyn?
Leave him be or observe the pattern of kills just in case he didn't send it in over a period of time.

I'm not so sure that the mafia don't know each other - I don't really see where in your reasoning that is a logical conclusion. Given the way that the story is set up they are part of the same Police Force, and so from a story perspective it would make little sense that they wouldn't know each other. Far more likely IMO would be that they just haven't been cooperating particularly effectively.

[Montmorency]

There's a difference between "ineffective cooperation" and killing your own partner.

[Arjos]

Tuuvi, Arjos, and Daveshack should have been enough to lynch Lewwyn.

With those three alone, I'm afraid it's a tie with Yaro...

Btw where's Riedquat's identity?

[Montmorency]

No, not at all.

Recall that Lewwyn already had two votes. It would have taken you to 5, while Yaro would have had 4.

The thing is, Dave was scum and he tried to kill Ishmael.

Riedquat was Sam Beckett. (N2 writeup)

[Arjos]

Recall that Lewwyn already had two votes.

That was D2...


Riedquat was Sam Beckett. (N2 writeup)

Right, thanks :)

[Montmorency]

You are correct in that, and you should have corrected me a while ago!

So it was a pipe dream all along, then - you would have needed yourself, Tuuvi, Crow, atheotes, and Khan to accomplish the lynch 5-4. Wasn't ever to be.

No one felt it salient to bring that up? And I went along thinking he had 2 votes D1...

[Arjos]

Nah unvoting Tuuvi brought Yaro down to 3, we missed one...

Atheotes and Lazy didn't act, Khan I don't even count :P

[Montmorency]

Yes, it did so because Riedquat's N2 vote on him never went into effect. :bow:

If we are to observe him for a trial period, what say you and I go to N3 and lynch Khan? It seems very likely that Visor is town. Khan is either WOG-bait or being his usual lurker...

[Arjos]

Fine by me, I really can't figure them out, even Atheotes acting innocent coud be scum XD

Lazy was around to read the instructions, bah :D

[Visor]

Yes, it did so because Riedquat's N2 vote on him never went into effect. :bow:

If we are to observe him for a trial period, what say you and I go to N3 and lynch Khan? It seems very likely that Visor is town. Khan is either WOG-bait or being his usual lurker...

Visor is scum they said, lynch Visor they said...

[Arjos]

You would still have 3 votes though, need more people to lynch Khan...
Also dead Visor is funnier :P

[Montmorency]

I am one of the three votes on Visor. Khaan has one (Tuuvi).

So there will be 3 on Khaan, 2 on Visor.

OTOH, I'll take edse.

[Arjos]

You (Monty) have 3 aswell...
Anyway Khan doesn't strike me as Dave's partner...

[Montmorency]

Hence, edse.

[Visor]

Monty, what are you going to say, eh? Come on!

[Montmorency]

But an active townie, in exchange for an inactive one...

[Arjos]

I'm confused, why is Ishmael back if he was killed tonight? Doesn't that imply that the previous days' vote changes resulted in a dead mafioso?

Dave NKed Ish, but Lewwyn NKed (N3) Dave; failing to lynch him gave us a dead mafia...
Lucky us, unless I got it wrong XD


But an active townie, in exchange for an inactive one...

Yeah, worth it...

[Lewwyn]

HAH I was F'n right. Dave was a killer just like I predicted. I killed him N2. N3 I didn't do anything because I thought I was being lynched on D1. Thanks to whoever helped me survive.

I never lied Monty. I said I was a vigilante and Boom I killed a mafia. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

[Arjos]

Well Vote: edse
Either him or Lazy imo...

[Arjos]

I never lied Monty. I said I was a vigilante and Boom I killed a mafia. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Ahahahahahah XD

[Lewwyn]

Alright, a few observations:

1. The Lewwyn lynch failed, so someone interfered.
2. There have not been extra kills on N2 & N3 - did Lewwyn not cast Potential Kills? Did he lie about being an SK?
3. Daveshack died on N2 instead of Riedquat. This indicates a Mafia vote change, so his kill would not be wasted on Riedquat.
4. Ishmael was killed on N3, but the death on N2 of Daveshack saved him.

Conclusions:

1. Daveshack is scum, and on N3 he tried to kill Ishmael.
2. The second scum, who killed Riedquat N2, switched his N2 kill onto Daveshack.
3. The two scum did not know each others' identities.
4. When Lewwyn's revival, when factored in, should have lead to more deaths: on each on N2 & N3.
4a. Lewwyn is eithernot a killer, or a very forgetful one.

So what do we do with lying, apparently harmless, Lewwyn?


WRONG! You are either mafia or you think you're so right you have tunnel vision.

Either Monty or Atheotes are probably Mafia since they tried to engineer lynching me D1 and prevent me from coming back to save Dave.

Salmon I do not have the ability to switch my kills so you will have to remain dead. If you lynch me D1 or D2 now then Dave comes back to life Riedquat will still be dead and whoever Dave ordered to die on N3 will also be dead. The reason Riedquat was not killed N2 is because he was already dead from being lynched on Day 2 in my place.

[Montmorency]

Very well.

Just one problem - where's the second scum? He didn't kill. That means he is either dead, or went back to modify a vote.

!

[Montmorency]

Er, Lewwyn, I was totally correct. I even included the possibility that you failed to set a kill.



Either Monty or Atheotes are probably Mafia since they tried to engineer lynching me D1 and prevent me from coming back to save Dave.


Oh, and Arjos too! I guess we're all scum? :smug:

[Lewwyn]

Well Vote: edse
Either him or Lazy imo...

Edse is most likely innocent. He switched to revive me last night. Also I told him before he did so that I was going to kill Dave. SO he knew that reviving me would kill Dave and if he was mafia probably wouldn't have helped so obviously.

[Montmorency]

Edse is most likely innocent. He switched to revive me last night

Uh, dude, he switched because he wanted to save Yaropolk and Salmonsoil. This was part of the plan.

:freak:

[Lewwyn]

Er, Lewwyn, I was totally correct. I even included the possibility that you failed to set a kill.

Oh, and Arjos too! I guess we're all scum? :smug:

Except you keep saying I claimed to be an SK which is ridiculous you keep trying to fabricate the truth to suit you. I said you were probably scum, I'm not sure. But neither you nor atheotes are confirmed villagers. Arjos is. Plus as I recall the idea to lynch me D1 didn't originate with him.

[CountArach]

If you think Montmorency is scum and you claim to have the town's best interests at heart, why didn't you NK him?

[Montmorency]

I generally said Vig/SK. Forgive me for the occasional laziness. :rolleyes:

Didn't originate with me.

[Lewwyn]

Uh, dude, he switched because he wanted to save Yaropolk and Salmonsoil. This was part of the plan.

:freak:

Yeah thats why he msged me and told me he wanted to revive me.

[Montmorency]

I'd like to hear it from him, if you don't mind.

[Lewwyn]

If you think Montmorency is scum and you claim to have the town's best interests at heart, why didn't you NK him?


I was sure about Dave. I wasn't sure and I'm still NOT sure about Monty. I said I think its most likely either Monty or Atheotes. I don't know for sure. I felt bad about SalmonSoil and didn't want to risk it because I got so much grief from the town.

[Arjos]

Argh got confused Ried is lynched...

Unvote; Vote: Lazy McCrow

Him or Atheotes didn't vote Lewwyn, might be the mafia gone to change on Yaro, in order to prevent 2 townies revival...

[Arjos]

At this point though we might aswell "scan" Monty: being divided won't help us...

[Montmorency]

Well, looking at the D1 Op. you can see commitment by Tuuvi and Daveshack. Crow wouldn't make up his mind before he went AFK. Atheotes just dropped away once planning was fully underway. To lynch, you would have needed Tuuvi, Crow, and Atheotes with you.

Now, if any of them were scum, they would have wanted to go with you - after all, they'd rather have two townies than a vig who had a hit on one of them running around. Therefore, I don't think you can look at non-participation as a sign of scummery. Quite the opposite, in fact.

[Arjos]

That leaves Khan, you and Grey; the latter clears Khan and they can't be both mafia...
You traveled in N1...

edse is quite cooperative, even though lynching Ried frees a NK slot, but you wanted that...
Tuuvi? No idea...
Ishmael got NKed and is somewhat connected to Visor...

Grey might be lying, but meh...
Anyway with Lewwyn we can get twice as many ^^