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Montmorency
03-31-2012, 16:48
Remember, though, that the only one who could have killed Ishmael is Daveshack, and Lewwyn is a killer, so it totally clears him. Visor, by association and the game not having ended, is very likely to be clear.
If edse really lied in-thread and went in with the intention of saving Lewwyn - did he realize that the D1 attempt would fail by default? I don't know what to make of that.
Grey vouches for Khan, but Visor mentioned that though they know each others' identities, they might not share alignments. Khan seems to have been totally absent for a few days, though.
But Tuuvi, Grey, atheotes, Khaan, and crow are not at all cleared, as far as I can see.
Yes, I was saying that it cleared him dying...
The thing is Atheotes or Lazy couldn't have known the other would be inactive...
Maybe they thought Lewwyn was lying about his next victim or they thought he was getting lyched anyway in D1...
Might have preferred to speed up the killing or avoid a round extension due to the double revival...
Had a thought about N3 kills. It's possible that mafia believed Yaropolk was going to be unlynched Day 1. Since he was already cleared, Yaropolk makes a good target as a confirmed villager. Thus I think based on the write up that the other killer put a kill order in on Yaropolk last night. They expected Me to get lynched D1 and Yaro to be alive to be killed last night.
Off to sleep.
Montmorency
03-31-2012, 17:36
There are several scenarios, but in each it seems that the Mafia makes a mistake. Is that what we should treat it as? That the Mafia got confused and made a bad decision.
A priority: Crow, atheotes, edse, - one of you, please go back to D1 and vote Yaropolk. In fact, two. If there are two votes on Lewwyn, and 3 on Yaro, there is a chance that the remaining Cop - if he still has a D1 card - could go back to add his vote to Lewwyn, or a 50% of Lewwyn dying, and Daveshack returning.
DaveShack
03-31-2012, 21:40
Aw, :daisy:
I'm the vig, but thought it would look scummy since Lewwyn already claimed it. I didn't believe his claim that he'd put in a N2 hit on me, so I thought it would be better to let him be revived and then kill him the next night.
Montmorency
03-31-2012, 21:48
Mmm, sure, a vig who only kills the most townie-looking and uses a weapon accompanied in writeups with lines like
As he stands by his time machine. A figure comes by. You have meddled enough Frank Parker. You are the worst of the lot. Always going back in time saving countless people that should have died. Starker should have taken over the US government. That virus should have being released and killed millions. That dam should have collapsed. Yet you had to stop all those things and turn them “right”. Well prepare to die Parker and this time there will be no turning back time for you. With these roads the figure pulls out a small device aims it at Parker and fires. Parker feels the very atoms of his body being torn apart and then he simply vanishes. All that is left of the chrononaut is a small patch of fire and his now non-functioning backstep device. \
Dr Sam Beckett for your crimes of causing Watergate to happen, inventing the moonwalk and for the worst crime of all forcing Donald Trump on a unsuspecting world you are hearby found guilty and sentenced to death do you have anything to say? Oh Boy says Sam. With those final words the figure pulls out his small device once more and shoots Sam Beckett scattering his molecules to the wind.
Once he finishes the song the figure standing by pull out his device and shoots Ted scattering his molecules to the wind.
Moreover, you lied to me about the D1 Mission.
Reveal your partner, TimeCop.
Vote: Atheotes for now. We have another day I think to talk about this right?
Aw, :daisy:
I'm the vig, but thought it would look scummy since Lewwyn already claimed it. I didn't believe his claim that he'd put in a N2 hit on me, so I thought it would be better to let him be revived and then kill him the next night.
Everyone's a vig!
I'm gonna Vote: LazyMccrow
Can't keep a Wyld Stallyn down. Rock on Ishmael!
We'll bring you back as well, and then we can have a wild concert to celebrate the death of the Time Police! :drummer:
I am tempted to vote Lewwyn now that he's done his civic duty and brought me back to life, but that would probably be considered a bit ungrateful. Instead, I suggest that we lynch Montmorency, seeing as he's one of the most active players and it would help to be 100% certain that he's a townie. Now that we've got a bit more time to play with, we can do that sort of thing.
vote: Montmorency
Also, nice write-up CB!
seireikhaan
04-01-2012, 08:13
My apologies. I've been busy.
Vote: Lazy McCrow for now so our generous host doesn't launch me into the sun. Hopefully I can better gather my thoughts in the next hour or so.
In regards to tonight's actions, it might be a good idea to go back to day 2 or 3 and lynch Daveshack by a large majority - not only would this bring somebody back to life (I think), but it would prevent any shenanigans by his partner in trying to re-lynch Lewwyn or something.
SalmonSoil
04-01-2012, 08:43
I am determined not to forget to ghost vote today. vote: Daveshack
Vote: DaveShack
You ain't coming back!
LazyMcCrow
04-01-2012, 10:59
vote Lewwyn - you and your scum buddy edse next
Guys you need to vote dachsicaks?
Montmorency
04-01-2012, 11:34
Save your potential votes, guys. Under what circumstances would Daveshack survive both a D2 lynch and a N2 kill?
Lynching Daveshack on D2 will of course bring back Riedquat, which also has the benefit of restoring his extra vote on Yaropolk D1. That way, no one will ever be able to lynch Lewwyn.
vote Lewwyn - you and your scum buddy edse next
Wrong answer.
Vote: Crow
N0me oen ykikll lewwn thats good yah>
Guys you need to vote dachsicaks?
N0me oen ykikll lewwn thats good yah>
:inquisitive:
In other news, I've been suspicious of Lazy McCrow for a while, and his previous post tipped him over the edge. Testing Montmorency will have to wait.
unvote, vote: Lazy McCrow
Montmorency
04-01-2012, 11:42
Note that Riedquat has at least 3 votes -4 if atheotes went. We're going to need to mobilize again, as edse and I can no longer go back.
Lewwyn, Ishmael, Arjos, Tuuvi, Grey! Assemble!
No97youo a giuhs agota listen ton me?> I uc , iionawmrels,e
vote Lewwyn - you and your scum buddy edse next
Back.
Vote: LacyMcCrow
Note that Riedquat has at least 3 votes -4 if atheotes went. We're going to need to mobilize again, as edse and I can no longer go back.
Lewwyn, Ishmael, Arjos, Tuuvi, Grey! Assemble!
Earth, Fire, Wind, Water, Heart! Go Planet!
(That's a 'yes, I'm in.')
Regarding Lewwyn. I wanted to revive him and pm:ed him yesterday to make sure he hadn't a kill order for me. He told me he would kill DaveShack night 2 and that was good according to me so I send my vote changing order even before the day was over to make it a 50:50 chance for him to come back.
Regarding the failure of day one lynch. Since Riedquat is lynched Day 2 he's vote change doesn't occur night 2 so Yaropolk should only have 3 votes. Since he's still lynched Tuuvi must still have his vote on him or the mafia went back to move a vote on him.
As for DaveShack, can't Lewwyn travel to N1 and kill him then instead of Salmon?
We should also get the N2 victim back too...
Yaropolk should only have 3 votes. Since he's still lynched Tuuvi must still have his vote on him or the mafia went back to move a vote on him.
He's either tied at 3 or mafia put a vote on Yaro yes...
DaveShack's partner/partners must have messed up totally last night by preventing Lewwyn's lynch (one less townie around) without checking the consequences on day 2.
Montmorency
04-01-2012, 13:02
Regarding the failure of day one lynch. Since Riedquat is lynched Day 2 he's vote change doesn't occur night 2 so Yaropolk should only have 3 votes. Since he's still lynched Tuuvi must still have his vote on him or the mafia went back to move a vote on him.
No, see, if only Arjos and Tuuvi went back, the tally is at least 2-3. We might assume that Mafia made a mistake and went back to add a vote to prevent the revival of two townies, not realizing the Day 2 changes would bring back Lewwyn. But that's irrelevant - no one wants to lynch Lewwyn anymore.
As for DaveShack, can't Lewwyn travel to N1 and kill him then instead of Salmon?
Lewwyn claims he can't alter kills.
DAveShack was one of those who should change vote on day 1. Instead he used his night action for a kill. What did the other scum do? adding a vote on Yaropolk wouldn't help them. I wonder if the standing on day 1 is now 5 persons with 2 votes...
CountArach
04-01-2012, 13:53
Those confused by Visorslash's posts can see this post (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?63332-The-Drunkards-tThread&p=2053437032&viewfull=1#post2053437032). In the drunkard's thread. That should explain it.
Captain Blackadder
04-01-2012, 14:10
Round Over Prepare for write up. The write up will happen tomorrow as I need a pm from a player to see what flavour this will have.
I need a pm from a player to see what flavour this will have.
Oh boy XD
I wonder if the standing on day 1 is now 5 persons with 2 votes...
It could be, Yaro has 3 though no?
Those confused by Visorslash's posts can see this post (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?63332-The-Drunkards-tThread&p=2053437032&viewfull=1#post2053437032). In the drunkard's thread. That should explain it.
Thanks CA, I'm somwehat sober now. :laugh4:
It could be, Yaro has 3 though no?
It should only be Lewwyn and Ishmael.
It could be, Yaro has 3 though no?
It should only be Lewwyn and Ishmael.
Double post.
There could be a mafia vote on Yaropolk as well.
me, atheotes, Khaan, Ishmael, LazyMcCrow, Greyblades (and Yaropolk) should still be able to go to day one and wagon DaveShack. We just have to make sure nothing bad happens following on that.
Montmorency
04-01-2012, 15:24
me, atheotes, Khaan, Ishmael, LazyMcCrow, Greyblades (and
Totally wrong.
Crow is dead. Greyblades and Ishmael have their votes on Yaro. A mafioso might as well.
You cannot lynch Daveshack on D1. Impossible. If you lynch him on D2, furthermore, Riedquat will be revived, which means his vote-switch on N2 onto Yaro will count again.
Daveshack can only be lynched D2.
I found out that I CAN in fact change nightkills. (Wasn't clear on my original role PM). I was discussing it with Salmon about what to do. But he wasn't sure either so I thought I'd open it to the floor.
I could change the N1 kill to Daveshack for double protection and revival of Salmon. Or I could change that kill to someone else and if we're right get the second scum on N1 with a Salmon revival. So thoughts on this? Do we take a shot at someone we're unsure of? Or just go the safe route and kill Dave again, lol. THing is that we wouldn't get any more kills back because Riedquat was killed N2, but he was lynched Day 2 and we don't really have enough votes to change that to someone other than myself, salmon or Yaropolk. Thus I think Riedquat is pretty much buried, and it would be a waste to simply re-kill Dave N1. Best to kill someone else.
Though maybe the flavor for this next write up is game over??
Totally wrong.
Crow is dead. Greyblades and Ishmael have their votes on Yaro. A mafioso might as well.
You cannot lynch Daveshack on D1. Impossible. If you lynch him on D2, furthermore, Riedquat will be revived, which means his vote-switch on N2 onto Yaro will count again.
Daveshack can only be lynched D2.
Only a little bit wrong.
Why do you say Greyblades has a vote on Yaro?
Montmorency
04-01-2012, 15:40
He went back as well that night.
I found out that I CAN in fact change nightkills. (Wasn't clear on my original role PM). I was discussing it with Salmon about what to do. But he wasn't sure either so I thought I'd open it to the floor.
I could change the N1 kill to Daveshack for double protection and revival of Salmon. Or I could change that kill to someone else and if we're right get the second scum on N1 with a Salmon revival. So thoughts on this? Do we take a shot at someone we're unsure of? Or just go the safe route and kill Dave again, lol. THing is that we wouldn't get any more kills back because Riedquat was killed N2, but he was lynched Day 2 and we don't really have enough votes to change that to someone other than myself, salmon or Yaropolk. Thus I think Riedquat is pretty much buried, and it would be a waste to simply re-kill Dave N1. Best to kill someone else.
Though maybe the flavor for this next write up is game over??
Now, if you can kill Daveshack N1, it will save Salmonsoil, giving us an extra round. Not only that, but Chaotix will return as well. He was Dave's N1 kill!
In case the game isn't over, we should prepare.
Eh, wouldn't the N1 kills be simultaneous? So Chaotix would still die?
Montmorency
04-01-2012, 15:45
The way it works is that all Daveshack's actions after D1 would be erased. All his votes, his kills - reversed.
That includes the N1 kill. Daveshack's vote on you D2 also disappears, though of course that won't affect the lynch.
Yeah should be simultaneous, but you can avoid his N2 attack...
The way it works is that all Daveshack's actions after D1 would be erased.
Are you sure? He would die N2 not D2, for that we need a lynch...
Montmorency
04-01-2012, 15:46
Oh, yeah, woops, you're not killing him D1. NEVER MIND
He went back as well that night.
No, he didn't.
Montmorency
04-01-2012, 15:51
Oh, he did. Ask him. :wink:
Ugh, fine, I'll save my vote change. Only having a one vote superiority on Yarpolk will help if we want to change the first turn anyway.
He said he didn't.
Montmorency
04-01-2012, 16:14
No. If we only have yarpolk ahead by one vote the mafia will have to change thier vote twice to overturn it but it will still be possible for them to do it, if we use two we can stop thier efforts and ensure that their efforts will be wasted.
Okay, fair enough. Just to confirm, you'll be changing your vote then?
Yes.
You realise we both switched our votes to Yarapolk, right?
:shrug:
Greyblades
04-01-2012, 16:16
The declaration in thread that I wouldnt change my vote was a lie, I, monty and ishmael discussed it and despite urging to the contrary I decided gaining arjos was worth ensuring yarpolk's death by putting enough votes on him so that even if all the mafia, and yarpolk himself, tried to save him, he'd still die. So I put my vote on Yarpolk and said I wouldnt in thread in the hope that the mafia would be inclined to waste thier night action in a vain hope to save Yarpolk.
Well, then you all knew we wouldn't be able to lynch Lewwyn day 1 so why all the acting?
Montmorency
04-01-2012, 16:42
Eugh - Lewwyn could have been lynched if 4 had gone, or 3 for a tie. Only Arjos and Tuuvi went.
Anyway, it turns out that Lewwyn not being lynched was the best thing that could have happened, so...
Didn't I say back on P.1 or 2 that this game was going to be hilarious?
ok, so Yaropolk have 3 votes: Lewwyn, Ishmael and Greyblades. We only need two more people If Lewwyn changes his vote to DaveShack. Me, Khaan and atheotes have this possibility.
Montmorency
04-01-2012, 17:11
Alright, take Lewwyn and atheotes or Khan to do the vote.
Chaotix will be revived, and Lewwyn can switch off Salmon the next night - if he survives. It would be a very smart move for scum to kill him tonight...
Actually if you remember while I was dead on Day 3 I put in an order to switch from Yaropolk to Greyblades on Day 1. Thus my vote for Day 1 is on Greyblades and can't move as long as the vote went into effect when I was revived.
Montmorency
04-01-2012, 17:22
Good luck with that, edse - Khaan and atheotes?
It might make sense for you to kill Daveshack N1, just to make sure.
well, then it should be a 2 vote tie between
2 Lewwyn:Tuuvi, Arjos
2 Yaropolk: Ishmael, Greyblades
2 Arjos: Greyblades, Montmorency
2 Montmorency: Visorslash, SalmonSoil
2 SalmonSoil: issaikhaan, Riedquat
2 Greyblades: Yarapolk, Lewwyn
Montmorency
04-01-2012, 18:01
Mistake with Arjos there.
Then it suggests that the 2nd Cop actually did vote Yaro? Perhaps the host simply didn't realize and there was no second tie-breaker.
atheotes
04-02-2012, 09:49
Sorry for the inactivity. Weekends are tough.
What should i do? Change vote to daveshack?
Is it night now? I believe we are waiting for the write up.
atheotes
04-02-2012, 10:51
oops... I saw the "times up" post and assumed it was now night.
Captain Blackadder
04-02-2012, 13:47
I am still awaiting a pm to determine something in the write up he will get another 12 hours then I will make the decision for him.
Can you clarify when the night phase ends?
Captain Blackadder
04-02-2012, 13:54
It will end in 24 Hours. In 12 Hours I will hopefully get the pm from the person who needs to send it.
Right, somebody remind me because I've been away for a while - is there anything I need to do tonight?
Captain Blackadder
04-03-2012, 09:56
As the votes are tabulated by Inspector Spacetime he realises that this is going to be a slaughter in terms of votes. Hiro Nakamura you are hereby found guilty do you have anything to see in your defence. (Hiro) LazyMcCrow stands and begins to speak.
You guys think you are sooooo smart. You think you know everything. You are all wrong about this. I am but a humble time traveller. I have done naught but a thing to any of you. Yet you all look at me and say that I should die.I am wounded by this spurious accusation. I could hardly believe it and from all these people who I happily call my mates. You have all pushed the panic button in doing this. I ask of you that if at all possible, if you would be so kind as to not kill me at this current juncture in time. I thank you all for listening to me and I await your decision. With that Hiro sits down.
Inspector Spacetime nods and gives the order for him to be removed from the time stream.
LazyMcCrow (Hiro Nakumura) is dead.
14 Hours till night ends.
Right, somebody remind me because I've been away for a while - is there anything I need to do tonight?
Refrain from killing.
Is it best if we let Lewwyn kill DaveShack night 1 while we others try to lynch him. So if we fail to lynch him day 12 we still have DaveShack dead by night 1.
I, Khaan and atheotes change votes to DaveShack on day 1?
Montmorency
04-03-2012, 10:19
Is it best if we let Lewwyn kill DaveShack night 1 while we others try to lynch him. So if we fail to lynch him day 12 we still have DaveShack dead by night 1.
Yes.
I, Khaan and atheotes change votes to DaveShack on day 1?
Ifit helps you sleep at night.
Since the game is still on, I have a surprise for you guys. I hope you will render me the obeisance I deserve after it's done. :snobby:
Is it resurecting me? Because that would make you totally not a dickweed. :tongue:
Montmorency
04-03-2012, 10:26
Maybe.
I meant confidence, not obeisance. :blush:
Curiousity beckons; why'd you try to lynch me?
Montmorency
04-03-2012, 10:33
You violated the law.
I saw utility in it? This has worked well.
Just curious Montmorency - are you ever not cryptic in your responses? :inquisitive:
That's a stupid question. That's like asking me whether I am ever not detrimental to the town cause. :tongue:
Maybe a vote or two on Riedquat day 2 so that the result doesn't change for that day.
atheotes
04-03-2012, 11:12
I am changing my D1 vote to Daveshack
CountArach
04-03-2012, 13:08
Since the game is still on, I have a surprise for you guys. I hope you will render me the obeisance I deserve after it's done. :snobby:
If you don't say during the day phase tomorrow then I'm going to recommend that you be lynched. We still don't know that the mafia can't both kill and vote change in the past.
Montmorency
04-03-2012, 14:09
Any help needed?
You're done with D1. Only with Khan can this succeed. 10 hours left.
If you don't say during the day phase tomorrow then I'm going to recommend that you be lynched. We still don't know that the mafia can't both kill and vote change in the past.
I've always believed in showing, not telling.
Also, we certainly do.
Riedquat
04-03-2012, 16:02
Maybe a vote or two on Riedquat day 2 so that the result doesn't change for that day.
:inquisitive: It is not enough for you having me killed and lynched same day? Leave me BE... dead enough as I am...
Captain Blackadder
04-04-2012, 13:12
Round Over prepare for write up.
Captain Blackadder
04-04-2012, 13:55
As night falls we see that once more someone is going to die. A figure stalks his prey once more using all that he has learnt from the great hunt that he is own. He pulls out his shotgun full of elephant slugs. The perfect bullet for taking down game even if in this case it is a man. The figure looks at the person he is following and sees that it is Albert Einstein Montymorency. With naught but a word the figure raises his shotgun and shoots Einstein in the head. A good shot the figure thinks to himself, I never miss. I will never miss he walks over to the body and appears to be disappointed with the result.
Monty (Albert Einstein) is dead
MAJOR TIME STREAM ALTERATION PREPARE FOR STABILSIATION.
SalmonSoil (Alexander Gibson) is revived, Khann (Marty Mcfly) disappears Bill (Visorslash) is revived.
Montmorency Lynched Day 3
Visorslash
CountArach Killed Night Two
Lewwyn
Daveshack Killed Night Two
Chaotix Killed Night One
Atheothos
Yaropolk Lynched Day One
Arjos
Reidquat Lynched Day Two
Salmonsoil
Ishmael
LazyMcCrow Lynched Day 4
Edse
Tuuvi
Greyblades
Khann Killed Night One
WYLD STALLYNS FOREVER. :cool:
Nice job guys.
Also, only one killer, not bad.
CountArach
04-04-2012, 14:00
Well, that clears montmorency if anyone had any doubt.
And SalmonSoil that we hanged, killed and hanged again is back :rolleyes:
Riedquat
04-04-2012, 14:26
And SalmonSoil that we hanged, killed and hanged again is back :rolleyes:
I've been a bit distracted lately but what was the plan exactly for this night?
I've been a bit distracted lately but what was the plan exactly for this night?
We were trying to lynch DaveShack day 1 while Lewwyn changed his kill from SalmonSoil to DaveShack night 1 as a backup plan.
Visorslash, you still got your vote change for day 1 left right?
We were trying to lynch DaveShack day 1 while Lewwyn changed his kill from SalmonSoil to DaveShack night 1 as a backup plan.
Visorslash, you still got your vote change for day 1 left right?
*Every day*
:evilgrin:
I decided that killing Daveshack a second time was a bit of a waste. I still wanted to revive SalmonSoil. Khann has been pretty much useless thus far in the game. I don't know what else he's got going on, but he was either lurking or an inactive villager. I figured if Khann was lurking score, if he was just an inactive villager we traded up. Either way that's one more confirmed villager.
Also with Khann dead N1, that's one less vote on LazyMcCrow in the last lynch. We should be able to unlynch him by lynching Monty who is already dead by a killer's hand. We are sure that Lazy is a townie right?
As for today...
Vote: Greyblades
It's late gonna post why I suspect him tomorrow when I have time.
Vote: Atheotes
Saw too many mafia lurking lately :P
If not him, our guy has spent all this time siding with the town and relying only on NKs...
Montmorency
04-04-2012, 19:55
https://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/desertSypglass/EinsteinFacepalm.jpg
Khann (Marty Mcfly) disappears Bill (Visorslash) is revived.
How could this happen? How was I nightkilled?
Did anyone go back to D3?
See, my "surprise" was to vote myself on D3, thereby lynching myself and saving Visor. The idea was to have you guys go back and lynch Khan once you saw that I was legit. For Khaan to have been lynched, he must have had at least 4 votes. That means 2 individuals, at least, must have gone to D3. Greyblades? Ishmael? Arjos?
Oh well, the murder moots it all. Are you sure you didn't kill me, Lewwyn? The only gunwielder is the one who killed Salmon on N1. :stare:
Vote: Lewwyn
https://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/desertSypglass/EinsteinFacepalm.jpg
How could this happen? How was I nightkilled?
Did anyone go back to D3?
See, my "surprise" was to vote myself on D3, thereby lynching myself and saving Visor. The idea was to have you guys go back and lynch Khan once you saw that I was legit. For Khaan to have been lynched, he must have had at least 4 votes. That means 2 individuals, at least, must have gone to D3. Greyblades? Ishmael? Arjos?
Oh well, the murder moots it all. Are you sure you didn't kill me, Lewwyn? The only gunwielder is the one who killed Salmon on N1. :stare:
Vote: Lewwyn
Lewwyn said he killed Khaan instead of Salmon at night 1. That's why Salmon is back. You are lynched on day three so Visorslash lives.
I actually unvoted for Monty on D3 aswell :D
Was sick of people questioning him after all what happened...
By the write-up he got killed though, I think the mafia changed their N2 kill on Riedquat or something similar...
Greyblades
04-04-2012, 20:15
Gee, thanks for killing my partner lewwyn(!)
Montmorency
04-04-2012, 20:21
Lewwyn said he killed Khaan instead of Salmon at night 1. That's why Salmon is back. You are lynched on day three so Visorslash lives.
Then how did I die this night?
I actually unvoted for Monty on D3 aswell :D
Hmm....
By the write-up he got killed though, I think the mafia changed their N2 kill on Riedquat or something similar...
Possible, though I don't see how the writeup indicates it. On the contrary - it seems to have happened tonight. Moreover, if you changed your vote on D3, it would have tied me with Khan for a new tiebreaker. Apparently, I won and survived to N4.
Thus far, the writeups have never described kills or lynches that did not occur during that phase. What it does show, however, is a gunman killing me. The remaining mafioso has a rather different kill method. The only gunman in the writeups has been Lewwyn, with Salmon.
He claims he helped the vote on Daveshack - without Khan, it would have failed. But did Khan really not show up?
I don't like it. However, I would have you all lynch Atheotes for now.
Apparently, I won and survived to N4.
That doesn't explain Visor coming back, because you would have died after the D3 lynch...
Lewwyn said he killed Khaan instead of Salmon at night 1.
I doubt that, he must have switched for DaveShack and Khan got lynched...
Otherwise it doesn't add up with the absence of write-ups and Visor being alive...
Montmorency
04-04-2012, 21:17
That doesn't explain Visor coming back, because you would have died after the D3 lynch...
?
You did vote Khan, right? You switched? So assume I won a tie vote.If Khan were lynched D3, then both Visor and myself would have entered N3, and beyond, alive.
So Lewwyn tries to cover his night actions with lies?
Edit: No, he can't. Since Salmon is back. He must have changed his actions for night 1.
You did vote Khan, right? You switched?
I voted Visor that day and last night I switched it for you...
From the write-up Khan disappeared, which means he was lynched instead of Visor (thus reviving him)...
You got killed last night...
If Khan got killed like Lewwyn says (unless edse got it wrong or whatever), you wouldn't have any tie vote and would get lynched straightaway...
So this means Khan is the D3 lynch, whether tied or not I don't know...
Since Salmon is back. He must have changed his actions for night 1.
But if he simply changed his kill for Khan, Monty would have disappeared and there wouldn't have been any kill...
So I think Lewwyn changed his N1 kill on Daveshack and enough people voted Khan in D3...
Montmorency
04-05-2012, 00:04
I voted Visor that day and last night I switched it for you...
Wait, so you switched from Visor onto me? :shame:
Contradictions: if both you and I voted for me D3 now, I would have definitely been lynched that day. Visor would have had 1 vote, to Khan's 2.
If
Wait, so you switched from Visor onto me? :shame:
is true, I cannot have lived past D3.
Montmorency
04-05-2012, 00:09
I decided that killing Daveshack a second time was a bit of a waste.
Don't want Chaotix back?
Why would you rather change your kill on D1
Also with Khann dead N1, that's one less vote on LazyMcCrow in the last lynch. We should be able to unlynch him by lynching Monty who is already dead by a killer's hand. We are sure that Lazy is a townie right?
to a likely inactive townie than a known scum?
In case you were wondering Montmorency, I switched my D3 vote onto you as well. Looks like everybody had the same thoughts. :beam:
From what I gather, the night kill(s) occur before any of the time stabilisation, so Montmorency was both nightkilled last night and lynched D3. Is this correct?
Montmorency
04-05-2012, 00:14
before any of the time stabilisation
Aha. That would resolve it.
In the final case, however, the Daveshack lynch failed utterly, just as I predicted.
It should be noted that you guys are foolish. It's a good thing I soaked up a kill before...
Unvote;
That's what you get for being overly secretive.
EDIT: So how exactly did Khan die?
EDIT2: Looking back at that comment, it might come off as a bit harsh. It is intended as a friendly jab, nothing more.
Montmorency
04-05-2012, 00:20
How transparent do I need to be as to my intentions?
Lewwyn claims a D1 switch onto Khan.
I wish he had joined in the Daveshack wagon; it would have allowed us to confirm atheotes' whenabouts last night.
Please reread my original post. I switched my NIGHT KILL on N1 from SalmonSoil to Khann. I didn't change any votes. My D1 vote CANNOT be changed. On DAY 3 I changed my D1 vote from Yaropolk to Greyblades. Also I CANNOT change my votes during the night. I have a day vote switch.
I don't understand how people can keep getting this wrong. I keep explaining it.
Montmorency
04-05-2012, 00:54
I don't understand how people can keep getting this wrong. I keep explaining it.
I don't maintain a spreadsheet, so it's rather difficult to keep track of all the votes and vote switches day after day. I accounted for your D1 switch on the weekend, when it mattered. :wink:
Sorry Lewwyn, I missed your first post.
Also, is there a list of living players anywhere? I didn't see one in the write-up.
Looks like everybody had the same thoughts. :beam:
Mystery solved XD
I switched my NIGHT KILL on N1 from SalmonSoil to Khann.
Why not for DaveShack I won't understand, could have revived his N2 kill, what's done is done anyway :P
Montmorency
04-05-2012, 01:11
Visorslash
Lewwyn
Arjos
Ishmael
Greyblades
Atheotes
Salmonsoil
Tuuvi
Edse
There are 4 lynches.
Go through Atheotes, Greyblades, and Tuuvi in that order. A fourth round will be unecessary.
One odd thing: why would the Mafia leave a known vig alive? Was I a bigger threat to them?
Unless of course he's lying. And to be honest, less kills the better. How about we just lynch Lewwyn and be done with it already.
Well, we have three confirmed.
Lewwyn
Greyblades
Atheotes
Salmonsoil
Tuuvi
Edse
So really, I think we should go for Lewwyn or Atheotes or Tuuvi.
Montmorency
04-05-2012, 01:21
Lewwyn promises not to kill, so there's no point in wasting a lynch.
He is known anti-Mafia.
Salmon-Soil has been proven town almost for almost as long as Arjos.
If edse is Mafia, he is either a fool or incredibly devious.
Lewwyn promises not to kill, so there's no point in wasting a lynch.
Because people always keep their promises.
Vote: atheotes
Seems like a decent enough course of action.
vote: Lewwyn, just in case we want to change this lynch later. Having the possibility to buy us more time (if he goes on a rampage) never hurts.
Montmorency
04-05-2012, 01:28
Because people always keep their promises.
But he has so far?
Guys, I don't understand. This guy killed scum! He hasn't killed a current player since.
But he has so far?
Guys, I don't understand. This guy killed scum! He hasn't killed a current player since.
Theoretically, he could still be a serial killer and Daveshack mafia (or vice versa).
Montmorency
04-05-2012, 01:40
You know what? Lynch him.
Time to prove a point...
I'm not suggesting that we lynch Lewwyn this round. I'm simply proposing that we keep it close enough that we can do so later if he goes rogue (the policy that we have followed all game).
SalmonSoil
04-05-2012, 03:38
Despite being indebted to Lewwyn for my revival, I agree with Ishmael that we keep this close for security reasons.
So vote: Lewwyn
And lets please not accidentally kill him.
Also I should have all of my time travels available. So if we need to rectify any past mistakes I can help.
Montmorency
04-05-2012, 03:39
How about you and Visor go to D1 and plug Daveshack?
It will bring Chaotix back - another confirmed townie.
CountArach
04-05-2012, 05:02
If edse is Mafia, he is either a fool or incredibly devious.
I know that he said activity was an issue for him and we know for a fact that someone needed to send a PM in order to give a lynch 'tone', which took quite some time. That sounds like the sort of thing that scum would be asked to do.
So what I'm basically thinking is our remaining scum has had issues with being a lurker.
Wasn't I already lynched once? You all know I'm Kyle Reese, I'm innocent and I have no intention of going off the reservation... Why would you want the vote to stay close on ME instead of a potential scum? Why not keep it close between UNCONFIRMED people? I am not understanding this at all. Like... not at all. I'm currently tied for the top of the lynch list?
Vote: Lewwyn
I've never really trusted you lol.
Vote: Lewwyn
I've never really trusted you lol.
You haven't posted in a while either. :stare:
Tell me why I shouldn't lynch you.
Unvote; Vote: Tuuvi
atheotes
04-05-2012, 07:03
Last night i had moved my D1 vote to Daveshack as planned. You will figure this out if you get the other people (who were supposed to do so last night :stare:) to switch their D1 votes.
I dont trust Lewwyn. Do any of you seriously believe he will have that lets him win without killing atleast one or two townies? But i suppose he is not the biggest threat right now.
Tuuvi, what did you do last night?
Vote: Tuuvi
1 Greyblades: Lewwyn
1 atheotes: Arjos
3 Lewwyn: Ishmael, Salmonsoil, Tuuvi
2 Tuuvi: Visorslash, edse
You should go back and change your day 1 vote if you don't have anything else to do this night Visorslash.
You should also be careful about doing vote changes without telling others as you can easily create a timeparadox.
CountArach
04-05-2012, 09:01
Last night i had moved my D1 vote to Daveshack as planned. You will figure this out if you get the other people (who were supposed to do so last night :stare:) to switch their D1 votes.
I dont trust Lewwyn. Do any of you seriously believe he will have that lets him win without killing atleast one or two townies? But i suppose he is not the biggest threat right now.
Tuuvi, what did you do last night?
Exactly. He knows that we know his ability and if he goes rogue, he can be taken down in the following phase.
For my sanity,
The List:
The Dead:
Yaropolk Lynched D1
Chaotix Killed N1
Khann Killed N1
Reidquat Lynched D2
CountArach Killed N2
DaveShack Killed N2
Montmorency Lynched D3
LazyMcCrow Lynched D4
The Living:
Salmonsoil (has died before)
Arjos (has died before)
Reidquat (has died before)
Lewwyn (has died before)
Visorslash (has died before)
Ishmael (has died before)
Edse
Tuuvi
Greyblades
Atheothos
Okay? We have 10 people alive 6 of which have died and have confirmed identities. You may or not believe I'm innocent apparently, but I am confirmed as Kyle Reese. I want the town to win. Fine don't believe me. You can always lynch me later. I personally think its ridiculous though. If I was a killer I would definitely have put in a Night Kill order on Night 3. And if I were a Mafia I would not me rescuing SalmonSoil. I wasn't even aware that I could till Blackadder told me. And when he did I told you guys! You had already excepted that I couldn't. Why would I tell you that and hamstring my ability to kill MORE people. I have killed exactly 2 people. Khann in favor of SalmonSoil, since he was unconfirmed and barely even playing, and Daveshack, confirmed killer. I'm not sure what else you guys want from me. It's extremely frustrating when none of you keep track of this and it's obvious.
Given we have six confirmed living identities, We should be focusing on them.
Edse
Tuuvi
Greyblades
Atheothos
Edse: Revived me AFTER I told him in PM that my next kill was DaveShack. Either extremely devious or innocent. Like extremely devious. Highly unlikely.
Tuuvi: I have 2 posts from the beginning of the game I'd like you to revisit:
Day 1:
I think Monty is guilty too. He seems kinda belligerent as well, and is against us having any sort of plan.
I'm gonna Vote: Yaropolk in accordance with the near-tie vote plan.
Also, a noob question: what is a power role?
I mean... very noob question. Does scum ask that in thread to make themselves look good? Or do they ask their scum partner? I think they would ask the scum partner personally.
Also on Day 1:
Since we are allowed to state our role names, do you guys think we should all state who we are? I think it might make it easier to figure things out once we read the write ups.
Wow. Personally I see this as a very good idea for the town. It's what we did in Buffy and helped us win that game hands down. After the noobness and this statement I just don't see scum.
Going to post this now and then talk about atheotes and Greyblades.
Atheotes: I believe to be innocent simply because he just keeps throwing himself into the fire. He doesn't have the same respect for his own life that scum would have.
Greyblades: I believe to be our last scum.
Day 1 he makes a vote, nothing else.
Night 1 - Day 2:
After lynch
Eh, that would actually make him more suspicious considering he's already been working for T.I.M.E and has a connection with the organization, still, I would imagine getting one of the mafia would have incurred a more violent incident in the writeup... Unless that bit about "this death will be purely temporary" is alluding to how the Time agents are likely top resurrect a fallen comrade after this timewarp is done. Hmm... I kinda wish arjos turned out to be the doctor at least there'd be a decent chance he's on the up and up story wise and resurrecting him would be a no brainer.
This feels off to me. Here he's basically stating at the end that he's not sure if we should resurrect Arjos because he's suspicious. Lazy sees this and says:
3)vote: Greyblades Everything about that above post rings my bells buddy.
Greyblades quickly replies
Hrm, 3 kills/attempts last night, I think that settles whether or not arjos is scum, and if noone claims they did it, the time machine thing might also clear monty.
3)vote: Greyblades Everything about that above post rings my bells buddy.
Explain, please.
So we get him agreeing with the town, very quickly. The "Explain, Please" is very terse not giving anything away if there is anything to give away.
The thing that becomes most suspicious is that Greyblades then disappears. Lazy unvotes and he doesn't post again until:
I... you took that to mean I knew about a doctor/protector role? I meant that story wise the doctor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_%28Doctor_Who%29) would be very unlikely to help a time police. It seemed a safe assumption that he would show up in a time travel themed game.
Edit: Sorry I missed the end of round, I was asleep, anyway I'm going to revive arjos by changeing my vote to yarpolk.
The first day's vote is the most valuable as if we get a mafia on that day we will be able to undo several night kills as well, therefore it might be a good idea that everyone save thier first day time jumps for a confirmed mafa and not waste thier jumps bandwagoning the flavour of the day.
This post came after someone suggested either Greyblades or Ishmael travel back to Day 1. He apologizes for missing the end of the round but he was "gone" for a day and a half or so. Then he comes back to be helpful to the town. Eventually we learn that Yaro is innocent so its not really any skin off a mafia's nose to help with the vote switching now is it? In fact its beneficial for cover.
More in a bit
SalmonSoil
04-05-2012, 10:09
Unvote, Vote: Tuuvi
Dangerously close to lynching Lewwyn.
Day 3 Greyblades is active within discussion with 1 line posts:
Did I say otherwise? kinda annoying we found out this way though, it's going to take a bit more work this time if we want him back.
...You know visor its a bit early to go off in a huff when you have only 2 votes.
Tell me about it.
*Blink*
Why? Arjos died before anything else could have happened and yet there were three kills that night, are we to believe there are 4 killing roles on such a small game?
None of these are helpful to the town really. None are actively searching for scum. This is an important distinction.
At the end of the Day:
People we really shouldnt be messing around with the first day lynch unless we know exactly who to lynch, this is an unmissable oppertunity; if we lynch one of the mafia on day one we will be reviving everyone he's killed, this could be the difference between defeat on day 5 and victory on day 7. And no I dont think we should revive Lewwyn even if he's really a vigilante as I really dont consider salmonsoil enough of a boon to risk reviving a mafia. Heck if we are so desperate to get salmonsoil we could get arjos to change his vote on day 2 to Lewwyn and have everyone else use time machines to bandwagon Lewwyn on day one, though I've already said why messing around with day one isnt such a good idea.
Again not helping to hunt scum.
Then there was this exchange:
Atheotes proposes lynching Greyblades on Day 1 in passing. Immiediately:
Thanks guys, really appreciate that your lynching me out of the blue like that.
He is very concerned and its ONLY atheotes talking about switching votes to him on Day 1. WHy is he so concerned? Becaus ehe has 2 votes on him and he's in a very precarious Day 1 situation!
Atheotes then asks:
Do you have any other viable suggestion?
Lewwyyn, lynch lewwyyn, lynch me on day 2 if you must but to lynch me on day one would render me unrevivable, this way you get both me dead and salmonsoil, another confirmed towine revived, then you can get me back next turn.
Holy crap there it is! That's where the idea to lynch me on Day 1 originated! From there people just ran with it.
2 Things about this. This is a great opportunity for the mafia to bury me. Second Atheotes takes the suggestion. I believe this to be pretty townie. He didn't have any direction about D1 lynching me until this point whereas I think scum would be trying to do this from the start.
Next post I'm going to look at his reaction today and do a summary.
Last night:
The declaration in thread that I wouldnt change my vote was a lie, I, monty and ishmael discussed it and despite urging to the contrary I decided gaining arjos was worth ensuring yarpolk's death by putting enough votes on him so that even if all the mafia, and yarpolk himself, tried to save him, he'd still die. So I put my vote on Yarpolk and said I wouldnt in thread in the hope that the mafia would be inclined to waste thier night action in a vain hope to save Yarpolk.
So was he lying or what? I'm confused because I have no idea how the votes now stand on N1. Oh wait, Grey had 3 votes on him I switched my D1 vote to him on D3 obviously he'd rather keep yaropolk dead. If he had tried to lynch me there's a chance he would have gotten himself killed! But he doesn't say that. He's reading MUCH more closely than he lets on.
I then vote for Greyblades today. He says:
Gee, thanks for killing my partner lewwyn(!)
So Marty McFly is your partner? Or you talking about Daveshack.
This response came 4 hours after my vote on him. He was quick to get a word in and try to blunt me, and again plant this idea that I'm a wild killer. Since then he has not posted in thread. I believe he's waiting to see what I post so that he can try and fight it.
Summary:
Greyblades has been semi quiet all game. He is well informed because he's reading closely but not posting. He has NOT been scum hunting, he has instead been time theorizing. He will come out and post if you directly address him. He will respond quickly to any accusations towards him to stop the ball rolling on him. He provides favorable scummy alternatives. I believe he is the last scum.
I might vote Lewwyn for the text-walls now XD
You make a solid case Lewwyn, but one thing makes me think Greyblades (probably) isn't scum - his earlier claim to be Doc Brown, and that he knew the identity of issaikhaan as Marty McFly. Evidently he was correct on the second point, and I find it unlikely that mafia and town would be partnered in a mason role. It's not impossible though, I'll admit.
issaikhaan, could you reveal any previous private conversation you have had with Greyblades? Did you know his identity from your role PM?
Captain Blackadder
04-05-2012, 13:45
Round Over prepare for write up
ORLY? I thought we had another day...
Captain Blackadder
04-05-2012, 14:24
Greyblades, Lewwyn
Atheotoes, Arjos,
Lewwyn, Ishamel,Tuuvi
Tuuvi, Visorslash, Edse, Tuuvi
As the day draws to a close Inspector Spacetime looks at the current people standing before him. ”Who is to be the victim for this day? He asks the crowd. Various people shout back at him and they push a figure forward. This time the victim is to be Mr Travis (Tuuvi) as the push him forward. He pulls out a gun. “You will not take me. You know what the TIME police where right we did deserve death for our actions. We have meddled and changed the past as we thought was right and what did it get us? My land no longer exsists because of the actions of one fool. Now I live in a facist dictatorship. I only wanted one thing and one thing only. I wanted that fool Eckels dead. Is that too much to ask for? Inspector Spacetime looks at him waves his hands and summons Constable Reginald Wigglesworth. The Inspector looks at him. Let us get him like the Blorgons. Pew, Pew go the lasers and Mr Travis is struck by one of them and falls down dead. With this death the time contamnemt device begins to falter and finally fails. All the Time Travellers are free to go.
TOWN VICTORY.
I will have a few comments regarding this tomorrow because I am not on the comp that has the spreadsheet. However congrats town on a very good performance
Montmorency
04-05-2012, 14:25
You make a solid case Lewwyn, but one thing makes me think Greyblades (probably) isn't scum - his earlier claim to be Doc Brown, and that he knew the identity of issaikhaan as Marty McFly. Evidently he was correct on the second point, and I find it unlikely that mafia and town would be partnered in a mason role. It's not impossible though, I'll admit.
issaikhaan, could you reveal any previous private conversation you have had with Greyblades? Did you know his identity from your role PM?
Visor said something about "neighbors", no?
I know that he said activity was an issue for him and we know for a fact that someone needed to send a PM in order to give a lynch 'tone', which took quite some time. That sounds like the sort of thing that scum would be asked to do.
So what I'm basically thinking is our remaining scum has had issues with being a lurker.
No.
Edse is not inactive. Crow was. CB plainly stated that he was awaiting word from Crow.
:inquisitive:
Seems to me you've lynched Tuuvi, fellows.
Visor and Salmon, if you go to D1 and vote Daveshack, Chaotix will return! This will allow Lewwyn a "free" kill - one that won't affect the number of rounds.
If Visor and Salmon can be expected to follow through on this, Lewwyn, you should kill whomever you believe should be killed - tonight.
EDIT: THAT'S GREAT.
NEVER MIND
Haha, well glad I was wrong about Greyblades!
Yay, both objective complete. Destroy Time Police and survive. :2thumbsup:
Glad I switched Salmon out for Khann...
Awww Yeah. Nice job town. Quite happy that both Bill and Ted survived.
And, go for me for actually voting a scumbag off. :D
Montmorency
04-05-2012, 14:42
Man, I didn't accomplish a thing. Even my "sacrifice" was worthless.
The failure of your cockamamie schemes worked out for you in the end!
Congratulations to Tuuvi. You were only 3rd on the list of suspects.
LazyMcCrow
04-05-2012, 14:43
Visor said something about "neighbors", no?
No.
Edse is not inactive. Crow was. CB plainly stated that he was awaiting word from Crow.
:inquisitive:
Seems to me you've lynched Tuuvi, fellows.
Visor and Salmon, if you go to D1 and vote Daveshack, Chaotix will return! This will allow Lewwyn a "free" kill - one that won't affect the number of rounds.
If Visor and Salmon can be expected to follow through on this, Lewwyn, you should kill whomever you believe should be killed - tonight.
EDIT: THAT'S GREAT.
NEVER MIND
I don't believe I was being waited on! Where did it say that?
LazyMcCrow
04-05-2012, 14:44
Haha, well glad I was wrong about Greyblades!
Yay, both objective complete. Destroy Time Police and survive. :2thumbsup:
Glad I switched Salmon out for Khann...
YOU were awesome. Town was awesome.
Captain Blackadder
04-05-2012, 14:51
I don't believe I was being waited on! Where did it say that?
You were not I was waiting for Tuuvi at the time. I offered him the chance to take the half victory or go for the full one.
@ CB
What were the roles?
Also, the time travel mechanic is very powerful in a competent town's hands. Which we had. It was a very cool mechanic though.
Captain Blackadder
04-05-2012, 14:59
I don't have them on me at this time, wrong comp. I will say this Yaropolk was a doctor I did laugh when not only did you lynch him you went back in time to make sure he was dead. Tuuvi was Mr Travis from a sound of thunder a sk with one person targeted Eckels who was Edse.
LazyMcCrow
04-05-2012, 15:23
I don't have them on me at this time, wrong comp. I will say this Yaropolk was a doctor I did laugh when not only did you lynch him you went back in time to make sure he was dead. Tuuvi was Mr Travis from a sound of thunder a sk with one person targeted Eckels who was Edse.
And I was one of the ineffective Time Police Mafia.
Pretty much every time I went to make a post, I ended up deleting it: Utterly befuddled and in awe of the townie minds at work. Seriously - well played. It was like watching a team of tiny monkeys work out how to complete a rubiks cube in a day.
And I was one of the ineffective Time Police Mafia.
Pretty much every time I went to make a post, I ended up deleting it: Utterly befuddled and in awe of the townie minds at work. Seriously - well played. It was like watching a team of tiny monkeys work out how to complete a rubiks cube in a day.
That's one of the most awesome analogies I've heard.
Half the job of a townie is convincing the other townies you are a townie. :laugh4:
Oh and just realized, if Tuuvi was an SK, I was right about not having a mafia partner to ask about power roles... Tuuvi was that an intentional throwaway?
So Crow was mafia and Tuuvi discarded a shared Town-SK victory?
Well, gg chaps XD
Blackie the game was very enjoyable, but might need some balance, as Visor said an organized town gets it easy :)
SalmonSoil
04-05-2012, 16:18
So glad I was revived in time for our victory.
Go town. Woo!
CountArach
04-05-2012, 16:48
Great game guys. I think that keeping the voting close helped a great deal, and the excellent use of the vote swapping played out immensely well. I just wish that I had been alive to share it with you all!
Thanks for running this CB, it was legitimately one of the most interesting games of mafia I've played. Some very odd mechanics that, if used well, are incredibly powerful.
Yaropolk
04-05-2012, 18:53
Btw I was the doctor - saved CA on day one then you bastards lynched me! Good game though and great job town - thanks for hosting CB!
DaveShack
04-05-2012, 20:38
I saw all the activity right out of the gate and knew it was going to be pretty hard to blend in.
My attempted misdirection post (that you weren't buying in any form) was half true -- I really did overlook the importance of Lewwyn's claim to have killed me. I should have either refrained from doing anything that night, or tried to keep him dead. Though it's mighty hard to figure out what that would have taken.
N1 I tried to kill Monty, and never was sure what prevented it. Was it a time travel conflict, a roleblocker, or was there a doctor involved? :shrug:
I don't have them on me at this time, wrong comp. I will say this Yaropolk was a doctor I did laugh when not only did you lynch him you went back in time to make sure he was dead. Tuuvi was Mr Travis from a sound of thunder a sk with one person targeted Eckels who was Edse.
Ugghhh through the whole game I had this feeling that Edse was Eckels since both their names start with e, but I decided to just go down the list in order instead of targeting Edse first. Big mistake. From now on when I play mafia I'm going to go with my gut even if it seems silly, that's what I did in Visorslash's game and somehow I guessed right.
That's one of the most awesome analogies I've heard.
Half the job of a townie is convincing the other townies you are a townie. :laugh4:
Oh and just realized, if Tuuvi was an SK, I was right about not having a mafia partner to ask about power roles... Tuuvi was that an intentional throwaway?
No. This is only my second mafia game ever, so it was a serious question. Also, I didn't start killing until I killed Montmorency.
Montmorency
04-05-2012, 22:50
Though it's mighty hard to figure out what that would have taken.
Should have voted Yaropolk. Nothing to all that talk of "balance". It was just this one Mafia mistake that killed a scum and revived a vig. :shrug:
Montmorency
04-05-2012, 23:22
Oof, and I made another mistake of my own.
Vote Lewwyn, that is, go along with the town's original plan.
And I was one of the ineffective Time Police Mafia.
Pretty much every time I went to make a post, I ended up deleting it: Utterly befuddled and in awe of the townie minds at work. Seriously - well played. It was like watching a team of tiny monkeys work out how to complete a rubiks cube in a day.
Love it! :laugh4:
Well played everybody, and thanks to CB for hosting - I can't imagine how hard it must have been to keep everything straight. I think this game ranks up there with Buffy as to having the best town cooperation I've seen, and despite some confusion it worked very well.
Also, I agree with Visorslash - despite it not being part of my VC, and the fact that I only learnt of his existence half-way through, I'm glad both Bill and Ted survived - Rock on, Wyld Stallyns! :thrasher:
Askthepizzaguy
04-06-2012, 00:53
I've been insanely busy, and 600 posts is too much to just skim through.
Please, this game sounds interesting... a summary of what happened, explained in dumb terms to a lay person? :grin:
Captain Blackadder
04-06-2012, 04:35
The Roles
Role PM Time Travlers TimeWarp
Roles
Albert Einstein
Montmorency
Bill
Visorslash
Phillip J Fry
CountArach
Kyle Reese
Lewwyn
Time Cop
Daveshack
Frank Parker
Chaotix
Michael Young
Atheothos
The Time Traveller
Yaropolk
Jack Harkness
Arjos
Sam Beckett
Reidquat
Alexander Gibson
Salmonsoil
Ted
Ishmael
Time Cop
LazyMcCrow
Eckels
Edse
Mr Travis
Tuuvi
Doc Brown
Greyblades
Marty McFly
Khann
Mr Travis
Hello dear sir. You are Mr Travis, a hunting guide from the year 2055. You have long since known that going into the past is a bad idea ever since you went back in time with Eckels and because of his actions ruined America and turned it into a fascist dictatorship. You have still not got over Eckels stupidity and have decided now is the best time to kill him once and for all as punishment for his complete idiocy.
Objectives
Kill Eckels
Survive to the end
Abilities
You still have your time machine on stand by so you can go back into the past at any time.
Gun: You still carry your gun from the hunting expedition which you can use to kill one person every night phase.
Eckels
Hello dear sir. You are Eckels wealthy hunter from the year 2055. You wanted to go back in time to kill a t-rex but when you got scared and stepped on a butterfly you caused unforeseen changes to the world. You ruined America and turned it into the fascist dictatorship. You are happy to have escaped Mr Travis for now but you can tell he is still lurking around and is after you. If he finds you it will not be pleasant so ensure that it does not occur.
Objectives
See the Time Police destroyed
Survive
Abilities
You still have your time machine so you can go back in time to any day phase and change your vote.
Time Police
Hello dear sir. You are the head of T.I.M.E the organisation devoted to ensuring the correct passing of time. You have contained all these time travellers and will now set about locking them up in the time stream. You have also cunningly disguised yourself as Hiro Nakamura from Heroes Your fellow officer is Daveshack
Abilities
Every night phase you may decide to remove one person from the lock down into a more secure location removing them from all future decisions.
Time Police
Hello dear sir. You are the head of T.I.M.E the organisation devoted to ensuring the correct passing of time. You have contained all these time travellers and will now set about locking them up in the time stream. You have also cunningly disguised yourself as Martin Padway from Lest Darkness Falls. Your fellow officer is LazyMcCrow
Objectives
Abilities
Every night phase you may decide to remove one person from the lock down into a more secure location removing them from all future decisions.
Albert Einstein
Hello dear sir. You are Albert Einstein inventor of the chronosphere and time traveller extraordinaire. You travelled back in time to kill Hitler but when you returned to the present you found out that whilst Hitler was never a menace to Europe Stalin was and still is. With an alternative World War II brewing you were captured by the Time Police and brought to this place.
Objectives
See the Time Police destroyed
Survive
Abilities
You still have your time machine so you can go back in time to any day phase and change your vote.
"Ted" Theodore Logan
Hey, Dude. You are Ted of the Wyld Stallyns Destined to become one of the greatest musicians in the worlds whose music will lead to a utopian society. So keep one being excellent dude and rock on.
Objectives
See the Time Police destroyed
Survive
Abilities
You still have your time machine so you can go back in time to any day phase and change your vote.
Bill S. Preston, Esq
Hey, Dude. You are Bill of the Wyld Stallyns Destined to become one of the greatest musicians in the worlds whose music will lead to a utopian society. So keep one being excellent dude and rock on.
Objectives
See the Time Police destroyed
Survive
Abilities
You still have your time machine so you can go back in time to any day phase and change your vote.
Time Traveller
Hello dear sir. Your are The Time Traveller the grand daddy of all who came after you. You were the first to invent the time machine which you used to travel into the year 802,701. Your powers of time travel far outstrip those who came after you. You are the most powerful time traveller and still hold much of your power. Even when the T.I.M.E are holding you back.
Objectives
See the Time Police destroyed
Survive
Abilities
You still have your time machine so you can go back in time to any day phase and change your vote.
The Time Machine You may also select one person each night phase and temporarily remove them from the time stream. (AKA You have the Doctor Role) Your selection may also be changed with the time machine.
Jack Harkness
Hello dear sir. You are Jack Harkness conman and former Time Agent (They changed their name to T.I.M.E) from the 55 Century. You have run into Doctor Who and being a companion of his for some time. You got mighty angry at him when he left you on Station 5. However that is now in the past, or is it?
Objectives
See the Time Police destroyed
Survive
Abilities
You still have your time machine so you can go back in time to any day phase and change your vote.
Dr Sam Beckett
Hello dear sir. You are Dr Sam Beckett from the year of 1995. You invented a method of time travelling around your own lifetime. Whilst your mind did become like Swiss cheese when you went back in time you are still one of the smartest and most talented men alive.
Objectives
See the Time Police destroyed
Survive
Abilities
You still have your time machine so you can go back in time to any day phase and change your vote.
Alexander J. Gibson
Hello dear sir. You are Alexander Gibson a man who went 108 years into the future year 2000 and spent the entire time there playing golf. You find out a great deal about how society had changed through the game of golf and are now looking forward to seeing more of what the future has to offer.
Objectives
See the Time Police destroyed
Survive
Abilities
You still have your time machine so you can go back in time to any day phase and change your vote.
Doc Brown
Great, Scott. You are Doc Brown inventor of the time machine that fit inside a Deloren. You have traveled to and from time going up to the year 2015 and all the way back to 1885. You have seen much of time until you were captured by T.I.M.E.
Objectives
See the Time Police destroyed
Survive
Abilities
You still have your time machine so you can go back in time to any day phase and change your vote.
Marty McFly
Hello you are Marty McFly assistant and closest friend of the inventor of the time machine Doc Brown. You too have travelled much through history seeing all that can come from the smallest change in the time stream.
Objectives
See the Time Police destroyed
Survive
Abilities
You still have your time machine so you can go back in time to any day phase and change your vote.
Frank Parker
Hello, you are Frank Parker of Project Backstep the government programme using technology from the Roswell Crash to create a device that would allow you to travel back in time. Whilst using this device is always risky you have travelled back in time many times saving many lives in the process and ensuring many disasters never occurred in the first place.
Objectives
See the Time Police destroyed
Survive
Abilities
You still have your time machine so you can go back in time to any day phase and change your vote.
Phillip J. Fry
Hello you are Phillip J Fry a man from the year 2000 who was frozen and awoke in the year 3000. Since that day you have travelled through time on several occassions. Once through a freak accident and the other time through an invention that your great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great nephew invented. That is the device you currently have in your possession and are willing to use.
Objectives
See the Time Police destroyed
Survive
Abilities
You still have your time machine so you can go back in time to any day phase and change your vote.
Michael Young
Hello you are Michael Young, a history undergraduate from Cambridge University who through the time machine created by Dr Leo Zuckerman went back in time and prevented Hitler from being born. However when you returned to the present you discovered that you had in fact caused the world to become worse. Now Rudolph Gloder ruled Germany and he was far smarter then Hitler ever was.
Objectives
See the Time Police destroyed
Survive
Abilities
You still have your time machine so you can go back in time to any day phase and change your vote.
Kyle Reese
Hello, You are Kyle Reese the soldier from either 1997 or 2018 comparing on your point of view. You were sent back in time to protect Sarah Conner from the Terminator's. You are also the father of the resistance leader from your time John Conner. Now you are here you want to ensure that you can continue to make use of time travel otherwise Sarah Conner could be in grave danger.
Objectives
See the Time Police destroyed
Survive
Abilities
You still have your time machine so you can go back in time to any day phase and change your vote.
Due to your strength and cunning you may select one person each night and kill them.
As for Balance I had 4 kills a night possible since I knew the longer the game went on the harder it would be for town to turn back changes. Luckily no time paradox's occured though it was close if the game had continued and Lewwyn had been the vote that revived Lazy then a paradox would have occurred.
Here is the spreadsheet that I used to keep track
https://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6703/spreadsheetf.png (https://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/spreadsheetf.png/)
The top one was the game without changes for me to work off. The bottom one was the current actions in play.
What were the final standings of day 1? Would a vote change by Visorslash change anything?
I've been insanely busy, and 600 posts is too much to just skim through.
Please, this game sounds interesting... a summary of what happened, explained in dumb terms to a lay person? :grin:
I'll do my best.
Early on, the town decided to keep the lynches close so that we could change them more easily later, thus effectively giving us twice (or more) chance of lynching scum due to the time-travelling ability everybody had. We put this to good use, promptly lynching the doctor and vigilante (at this point Montmorency, Greyblades and myself performed a sneaky manoeuvre to ensure that our doctor stayed dead). However, due to a mistake on the town's part the vigilante was brought back to life, and promptly nailed one of the mafia (bringing yours truly back to life). I kind of lost track at this point, but we managed to lynch the remaining mafioso and the SK at least partially by accident.
Does that sound about right? :beam:
EDIT: Also, did the Time Police have a QT?
Bump.
I am also interested if the Time Police had a QT. Also, CB do you have any more host notes on the game itself?
Greyblades
04-08-2012, 01:32
I'll do my best.
Early on, the town decided to keep the lynches close so that we could change them more easily later, thus effectively giving us twice (or more) chance of lynching scum due to the time-travelling ability everybody had. We put this to good use, promptly lynching the doctor and vigilante (at this point Montmorency, Greyblades and myself performed a sneaky manoeuvre to ensure that our doctor stayed dead).
Hey! There were plenty of votes left to revive him, I just wanted to make sure that the mafia's 2 votes wouldnt be able to resurrect him on thier own.
DaveShack
04-08-2012, 05:44
The timecops didn't use a QT. Thought about it, but never got the time.
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