Mafia vs Werewolves [Concluded]

[Jarema]

This is a game with two evil teams - mafia and werewolves. And, of course, there would be town.
a) mafia: several guys. there are powerful individuals, with political and economical connections. They have their own dirty tricks (like roleblocking, influencing votes, etc.) but they cannot kill anyone directly
b) werewolves: there is lower number of them than mafia. They are beasts. They kill. They have some strange abilities which I do not want to describe here, but lets consider them to be minor (in comparison with killing, that is)

Town (and mafia) would have some power roles, but no 'full scanner' (cop or someone similar). There is possibility of tracker/watcher, and of other kinds of power roles (vigilante, doiuble-voter, doctor, etc.)

One unusual thing: each 'day' (voting phase) will represent first day of a week - a day of religious celebrations, a day free from work. Each 'nihght' (action phase) will represent the rest of the week. t is mostly a flavour change, but I want to use it to introduce new mechanic: phases of the Moon. At new moon, werewolves are weak - they are more vulnerable, and they cannot attack. at full moon, werewolves are potent. they can use all they special abilities and they are almost indestructible. Game starts one week before full moon.

Another unusual thing: there would be no reveal at death. But, after two days (or little less), a coroner's raport would be published. his raport would describe the cause of a death, and if body has any anomalies, it would be described either. So, if killed person is a werewolf, it would become known after two days. But, there would not be any information about deceased person being mafia or not. Additionally, there will be roles (I think about 2) which would be able to give some info about deceased character. For example, person who can check if deceased has any criminal record (all mafia will have crilminal record, but some townies also).

I will use wound system: wounded person cannot use any abilities. If wounded person is wounded again, he/she dies. Wounds of humans do not heal by themselves. They can be healed by healers or by healing potions. Werewolves heal their wounds at full moon.

This is short description of most of aspects of this game (some I do not want to reveal)

And I can assure all of you, that there are no jesters or mimes in this game :bow:

I need at least 24 players
List of living players:
1.
2.
3.
4. Edse
5.
6. Bsmith
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14. dcmort93
15.
16.
17.
18. Kagemusha
19.
20.
21.
22. God Emperor
23.
24.
25.
26.
27.

Dead players:
1. Visorslash, werewolf hunter, lynched day 1. Not a werewolf. Had criminal contacts.
2. Chaotix, grain merchant, killed night 1. Not a werewolf.
3. Xenoneb, toy merchant, lynched day 2. Not a werewolf. No criminal contacts. Mason.
4. Daveshack, mayor, killed night 2. Not a werewolf.
5. DoubleA, jail keeper, killed night 2. Not a werewolf.
6. Ishmael, cloth merchant. lynched day 3. Not a werewolf. No criminal contacts.
7. Montmorency, miner's guild master, killed night 3. Not a werewolf.
8. SalmonSoil, herbalist, killed night 3. Not a werewolf.
9. LazyMcCrow, spice merchant, lynched day 4. Not a werewolf. No criminal contacts.
10. Centurion1, weaver’s guild master, lynched day 5. Not a werewolf. No criminal contacts.
11. Autolycus, herbalist, killed night 5. Not a werewolf.
12. Csargo, fruit merchant, lynched day 6. Werewolf!
13. Robbiecon (replaced Xehh II), night watch captain, killed night 6. Not a werewolf.
14. Wideyedwanderer , priest, killed night 6. Not a werewolf.
15. Atheotes, blacksmith's guild master, lynched day 7. Not a werewolf.
16. Askthepizzaguy, scout's leader, killed night 7. Not a werewolf.
17. Cute wolf, deputy mayor, WoGed day 8. Not a werewolf.
18. Choxorn, healer, lynched day 8. No criminal contacts. Not a werewolf.
19. Arjos, tool merchant, lynched day 9. No criminal contacts. Werewolf!
20. Classical Hero, city watch marshall. killed night 9. Not a werewolf.
21. Memnon, butcher's guild master, lynched day 10.
22. The King, magic accessories merchant, lynched day 11.

[Jarema]

On the biggest island of archipelago called “the nest”, coalition of small city-states formed. It is in fact hard to call this a ‘coalition’: all cities pay levies to the biggest one, called Hangum.
Action takes place in one of the smallest towns on the island. Mauderville (that’s its name) is ruled by a council of merchants, magistrates and other important figures.
This peaceful town has two problems now. First, group called ‘violet order’ tries to overthrow council rule and replace it by themselves. They caused a lot of protests, and people refused to pay taxes as long as there is no stable government. Second, werewolves (or werewolf?) were seen in the town. Two weeks ago previous mayor was slain by them (or him).
Special envoy from Hangum (and his bodyguards) has come to the town today. He will surely try to bring order back to the Mauderville.

end of day one: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053454230&viewfull=1#post2053454230
end of night one: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053454578&viewfull=1#post2053454578
end of day two: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053455169&viewfull=1#post2053455169
end of night two (full moon): https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053455388&viewfull=1#post2053455388
end of day three: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053456203&viewfull=1#post2053456203
end of night three: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053456426&viewfull=1#post2053456426
end of day four: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053456909&viewfull=1#post2053456909
end of night four: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053457132&viewfull=1#post2053457132
end of day five: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053457529&viewfull=1#post2053457529
end of night five: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053457890&viewfull=1#post2053457890
end of day six: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053458421&viewfull=1#post2053458421
end of night six (full moon): https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053458579&viewfull=1#post2053458579
end of day 7: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053459081&viewfull=1#post2053459081
end of night 7 https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053459365&viewfull=1#post2053459365
end of day 8: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053460218&viewfull=1#post2053460218
end of night 8: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053460380&viewfull=1#post2053460380
end of day 9: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053460635&viewfull=1#post2053460635
end of night 9: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053460962&viewfull=1#post2053460962
end of day 10: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053461294&viewfull=1#post2053461294
end of night 10 (full moon): https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141513-Mafia-vs-Werewolves-IN-PLAY&p=2053461549&viewfull=1#post2053461549

[Montmorency]

Go.

[Arjos]

In and couldn't resist:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6V2oCX3Hn4

XD

[LazyMcCrow]

Yes please :2thumbsup:

[edse]

In.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Joining.

[BSmith]

In for me!

[autolycus]

In.

[Chaotix]

I'm in; also, I'll see about putting this on the front page to garner more attention.

I'm planning on doing this for all new Large Games (and for any small games if requested); sort of like the advertisement announcements of the old days.

[Jarema]

I'll see about putting this on the front page to garner more attention.



I suppose it would be nice, but I must admit I do not understand what you are talking about :smile:

[Chaotix]

I suppose it would be nice, but I must admit I do not understand what you are talking about :smile:

Here, check the Frontpage (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/content.php).

Now, anyone coming directly to the Org will see that your game is now in Sign-Ups, and there's a link right in the article. Suffice to say it should be at least a moderate boost to interest in this game, particularly in terms of new members.

If you'd like me to edit that to say anything different or more specific, just let me know.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

In. :7gangster:

[Jarema]

Here, check the Frontpage (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/content.php).

Now, anyone coming directly to the Org will see that your game is now in Sign-Ups, and there's a link right in the article. Suffice to say it should be at least a moderate boost to interest in this game, particularly in terms of new members.

If you'd like me to edit that to say anything different or more specific, just let me know.
Nice!
thanks.

I must admit that I tend to forget that is not primarily mafia forum :on_blush:

[atheotes]

Count me in

[DaveShack]

Playing.

[Cute Wolf]

count me IN!

[Memnon]

I'm in.

[wideyedwanderer]

In.

[dcmort93]

I'm IN

[Double A]

Murderville? I'm totally joining.

[Visor]

I won't be as active as I normally am, but yeah, sign me up.

[Choxorn]

In. It's been way too long since I last played here.

[Kagemusha]

IN.​ Hopefully i will have time also to participate. :)

[classical_hero]

I announce my return to mafia here, since I am feeling better now.

[Centurion1]

aye ill join im bored for the summer

[Xehh II]

Holler! all good if I join this device?

[Jarema]

Thank you all for joining
We have 2/3 of preferred number of players now.

[God Emperor]

In :)

[Xenoneb]

In.

[Jarema]

Please guys, someone... we need at least one more player

[Csargo]

In :2thumbsup:

[Jarema]

Wow!

I will wait for about 24 hours from now for additional player if someone would be interested, and then start the game

[Ishmael]

Since the other two games just finished, I should have the time to properly play in this one. In please!

[SalmonSoil]

In in in

[DaveShack]

Playing.

But not on the list, so you have one more than you thought. :whip:

[Jarema]

wow!
good catch, as I want to randomize roles now

[Jarema]

All pms sent.
Game will start in a few minutes.

[Jarema]

Rules:
1. General rules of mafia game apply in case I forgot about something important here
2. you can vote by vote: Jarema
3. unvotes are not necessary
4. no quoting directly from pms or any other sources
5. dead people can communicate but only in the gamethread, no pms

EDIT: do not speak about any information that is not already in a game thread. For example, do not say what you did at night if you didnt say it before death. Or do not reveal details of your communication with other player, if you did not before death. But feel free to hunt for scum using in-thread informations and behavior

6. private communication, both qts and pms are allowed
7. do not edit your posts
8. not voting for three consecutive days will result in WoGing/replacing inactive player.
9. have fun!

On the biggest island of archipelago called “the nest”, coalition of small city-states formed. It is in fact hard to call this a ‘coalition’: all cities pay levies to the biggest one, called Hangum.
Action takes place in one of the smallest towns on the island. Mauderville (that’s its name) is ruled by a council of merchants, magistrates and other important figures.
This peaceful town has two problems now. First, group called ‘violet order’ tries to overthrow council rule and replace it by themselves. They caused a lot of protests, and people refused to pay taxes as long as there is no stable government.
Second, werewolves (or werewolf?) were seen in the town. Two weeks ago previous mayor was slain by them (or him).
Special envoy from Hangum (and his bodyguards) has come to the town today. He will surely try to bring order back to the Mauderville.


Listen, members of the council. We have a problem. Your town is not paying us the money we demand. We have heard about your troubles with a group that wants to usurp power over town for themselves. For us, it makes no difference who will rule this town. But his rule must be strong. So, we will stay here for as long as needed. Each week, you will chose one person from members of this council, and we will banish them from this land. We will repeat it for as long as needed for leaving only one group vying for power.
As for your second problem… We will help you. Werewolves are creatures of chaos, and we will not allow them to spoil our profit.

Day 1 begins!
It is first, holy day of Week One! During this week, moon is in waxing phase. (Night one will represent the rest of Week One)



List of living players:
1. Montmorency
2. Arjos
3. LazyMcCrow
4. Edse
5. Askthepizzaguy
6. Bsmith
7. Autolycus
8.
9. The King
10. Atheotes
11. Cute Wolf
12. Memnon
13. wideyedwandered
14. dcmort93
15. DoubleA
16.
17. Choxorn
18. Kagemusha
19. Classical Hero
20. Centurion1
21. Xehh II
22. God Emperor
23. Xenoneb
24. Csargo
25. Ishmael
26. Salmonsoil
27. Daveshack

[Visor]

Shoot to thrill, aim to kill.

Goodbye Vote: Cute Wolf.

[LazyMcCrow]

#16? Good choice random.org, you are a true number generator!
vote: visorslash

[Askthepizzaguy]

Let's try out some new functions.

Did you know you can highlight things?

<marquee direction="right" bgcolor="yellow" height="20" width="250"> Did you know you can do this!?</marquee>

<marquee direction="up" bgcolor="black" height="150" width="150"> Or even this!?!</marquee>



Nice. That was pretty sweet.

Vote: LazyMcCrow

[LazyMcCrow]

Let's try out some new functions.

Did you know you can highlight things?


Spicy

[Jarema]

Let's try out some new functions.

Did you know you can highlight things?

<marquee direction="right" bgcolor="yellow" height="20" width="250"> Did you know you can do this!?</marquee>


Fun

but where have gone buttons used to do this??
Do we have to type all [quote and similar tags??

[Askthepizzaguy]

Some of the buttons are on the far-right (under "Go advanced" reply)

You can see the highlight option. I can't get "Glow" to work. As for the marquee, reply with quote to my marquee post and you can see the various html you'd have to type out to make it work.

You can do it without the background colors too.


<marquee direction="down" height="200" width="250">~:eek: Help me! I'm falling!!!</marquee>

SPLAT.

[Wishazu]

GaH! Just missed it :(

[Visor]

You can have my role if you want?

And if its okay with Jarema

[Jarema]

GaH! Just missed it :(

I am looking for replacements!
probably they would be needed

[atheotes]

Vote: ATPG - Stop "spamming" - thats a good enough reason.

[SalmonSoil]

Let's try out some new functions.

Did you know you can highlight things?

<marquee direction="right" bgcolor="yellow" height="20" width="250"> Did you know you can do this!?</marquee>

<marquee direction="up" bgcolor="black" height="150" width="150"> Or even this!?!</marquee>



Nice. That was pretty sweet.

Vote: LazyMcCrow

What is this sorcery? Burn the witch!

vote: Pizza

[edse]

Vote: SalmonSoil Even though it probably was too careless for a mafia.

[Wishazu]

ok.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Vote: Montmorency

Name sounds kind of scummy...

[God Emperor]

Vote: Visorslash :beam4: Hello there potential scum

[God Emperor]

apparently I am not allowed to edit posts. Vote: visorslash

[Ishmael]

Let's try a pseudo-random method that other people can follow along with this time. 8+1+1 = 10!

vote: atheotes

(I made an executive decision not to make it 8+1+2; you got off lucky Cute Wolf :beam:).

[Montmorency]

Whoa, all close and waggony first thing in the morning?

I'm gonna have to bus my Arch-Kyn-Sinterwolf, Ringleader of the Wolors, Prime-Claw of the Meghrelian Hierarchy, Fur'rer of the Anthromorphiloi. Vote: Centurion

Sieg Howl.

[BSmith]

Random #4 = vote: edse

[classical_hero]

vote:Xenoneb

[Arjos]

Vote: Xehh II nosey royalty and their fancy names! :D

[dcmort93]

Random.org says Vote: The King for now

[Csargo]

Let's try out some new functions.

Did you know you can highlight things?

<marquee direction="right" bgcolor="yellow" height="20" width="250"> Did you know you can do this!?</marquee>

<marquee direction="up" bgcolor="black" height="150" width="150"> Or even this!?!</marquee>



Nice. That was pretty sweet.

Vote: LazyMcCrow

<marquee direction="left" bgcolor="lime" height="20" width="250"> What are these shenanigans?</marquee>

[LazyMcCrow]

Tally

ATPG: 2 (atheotes, SalmonSoil)

Visorslash: 2 (Lazy McCrow, God Emperor,)



Cute Wolf: 1 (Visorslash, )

Lazy McCrow: 1 (ATPG, )

SalmonSoil: 1 (edse,)

Montmorency: 1 (The King,)

atheotes:1 (Ishmael,)

edse: 1 (BSmith,)

Xenoneb: 1 (classical hero,)

Xehh II: 1 (Arjos,)

The King: 1(dcmort93)

[LazyMcCrow]

So - Salmon and God Emperor, what are your votes all aboot anyway?

[Visor]

Hey look, a box! Unvote; Vote: God Emperor I remember you!Would you look at that!

[God Emperor]

So - Salmon and God Emperor, what are your votes all aboot anyway?

But I must vote visorslash the first round. There is no way around it

[DaveShack]

Vote: Atheotes semi-random ok hilight is cool

[Jarema]

but votes must be bolded anyway

[Memnon]

The Will of The Random Entity forces my hand. Number 27, Daveshack is voted.

Almost forgot, Vote: Daveshack

[wideyedwanderer]

Vote: autolycus.

[Chaotix]

This is nonsense.

Vote: ATPG

[Xenoneb]

Vote: Cassical_hero
OMGUS!
Unvote; Abstain

[Askthepizzaguy]

First round shenanigans! I thought you'd have learned your lesson about lynching me the first round last game.

*puts on determined face*

I will not die without a fight. Who is the alternative!?!?!

*sees Visorslash*


Ah poopy. I can't bus my partner just to save myself!

Visor, it's been nice knowing us.

[Montmorency]

Sure you can! This is a limited reveal game...

[Askthepizzaguy]

Huh?

[Montmorency]

Another unusual thing: there would be no reveal at death. But, after two days (or little less), a coroner's raport would be published. his raport would describe the cause of a death, and if body has any anomalies, it would be described either. So, if killed person is a werewolf, it would become known after two days. But, there would not be any information about deceased person being mafia or not. Additionally, there will be roles (I think about 2) which would be able to give some info about deceased character. For example, person who can check if deceased has any criminal record (all mafia will have crilminal record, but some townies also).

:brood:

:mellow:

[Askthepizzaguy]

See I joke about being scummy, but you go out of your way to pretend that you're mafia hardcore. It's almost like you want to die so you can post a trollface regardless of your alignment.

[Montmorency]

But I'm not trying to appear scummy deliberately - I'm only feigning nonchalance.

[Xenoneb]

Nonchalance is very scummy, you know.

[Montmorency]

That's why I'm feigning it?

But don't do that - best not to be seen interacting.

:uhoh:

[Double A]

Pizza, can you resend me the link to the werewolf QT?

<marquee direction="right" height="20" width="40">vote:</marquee> <marquee direction="up" height="35" width="40">Visor</marquee> <marquee direction="left" height="20" width="40">slash</marquee>

[Cute Wolf]

vote : Abstain

[Chaotix]

But I'm not trying to appear scummy deliberately - I'm only feigning nonchalance.


Nonchalance is very scummy, you know.

Very true. I seem to remember a very recent game where the mafia nonchalantly voted his way to victory...

[Montmorency]

Go-o-od - your bias makes you weak.

[Visor]

First round shenanigans! I thought you'd have learned your lesson about lynching me the first round last game.

*puts on determined face*

I will not die without a fight. Who is the alternative!?!?!

*sees Visorslash*


Ah poopy. I can't bus my partner just to save myself!

Visor, it's been nice knowing us.

Aye. Good game Pizza, good game indeed. :sad:

[Xenoneb]

Man, this Abstain guy is so scummy. (Joke, please don't lynch)

[Choxorn]

Let's try out some new functions.

Did you know you can highlight things?

<marquee direction="right" bgcolor="yellow" height="20" width="250"> Did you know you can do this!?</marquee>

<marquee direction="up" bgcolor="black" height="150" width="150"> Or even this!?!</marquee>


This power... I must know it! Show me! I will do whatever you ask, just help me save Padme's life and learn the ways of the dark side of the highlighting!

and mai RNG told me to Vote: edse

[Csargo]

Vote:Abstain

[Askthepizzaguy]

Also there is no dark side of highlighting. That's why it's highlighting and not highdarkening.

:eyebrows:



Aye. Good game Pizza, good game indeed. :sad:

You do have to vote for me to save yourself if it comes down to that. In a game with this many scum, it's irresponsible not to do so. That said, it would be the sole reason I'd be voting for you if I have to do so. I also detest not being able to choose my own target.

On a serious note, this is the part of the game where I usually OMGUS vote someone, and being a good townie that is in no way guilty, I must always act exactly like I normally do or else it's WEIRD OOOOOOOoooooOOOOOOoooooooh :mad:

So, I would like to vote for atheotes for voting for me, but... "I don't think I'll get a random counterwagon."

:angel:



*pause*



I said, "I don't think I'll get a random counterwagon."




*pause*


*clears throat*


Here's some spam, by the way.

<marquee>SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM LOVELY SPAM WONDERFUL SPAM</marquee>




*pause, clears throat again even louder*



I am pretty sure there will be no random, meaningless counterwagon, wherein scums could possibly hide you know if they're scummy and like hiding in wagons. Because I never go after the people who save me from death, I'm naive like that.

:angel:


unvote even though it's completely unnecessary in this game
vote: atheotes


:angel: <----- see the angel wings prove I'm not guilty.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizza, can you resend me the link to the werewolf QT?

Nice ploy, but I'm actually mafia, not a werewolf. You can't fool me that easily. :cool:

[Visor]

Unvote; Vote: Atheotes

Counter wagon go!

[DaveShack]

Vote: Atheotes

must remember not to get distracted by the shiny things

[LazyMcCrow]

Vote: Atheotes

must remember not to get distracted by the shiny things

2 Gold

[LazyMcCrow]

2 Gold

Or - as we say in Europe: Error 37

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh dear, I've opened Pandora's jar again. Now we've lost all hope as well.

[atheotes]

@Pizza - you are usually more bold about saving yourself...too worried you might let your team down?

[Askthepizzaguy]

@Pizza - you are usually more bold about saving yourself...too worried you might let your team down?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I'm usually more bold about getting who I vote for dead, which is the entire point of voting for someone.

Killing Visorslash because someone else pressured me is not how I scum-hunt.

[atheotes]

I am talking about your "joke-y" post when you voted for me...
you are voting for me to save yourself not because i placed the first vote on you :shrug:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't have a tally handy, but I'm almost dead certain you had fewer votes on you than Visor.

[atheotes]

Unvote; Vote: Atheotes

Counter wagon go!

SCUM! You and Daveshack! :soapbox:

Ishmael's vote is understandable given the recently concluded game ~;)

[Visor]

SCUM! You and Daveshack! :soapbox::crazy:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't have a tally handy, but I'm almost dead certain you had fewer votes on you than Visor.

I double checked and at the time there was only one legal vote on you, several on Visor.

Can you elaborate on what you thought I was doing? Because I would protest, I really don't think I was doing it.

[atheotes]

I don't have a tally handy, but I'm almost dead certain you had fewer votes on you than Visor.

If Lazy' tally is correct, then we had 2 votes each.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If Lazy' tally is correct, then we had 2 votes each.

That's not what I got. Ok, I'll do a serious write everyone's name down tally then.

[atheotes]

That's not what I got. Ok, I'll do a serious write everyone's name down tally then.

perhaps you did not count Daveshack's "unbolded" vote and Lazy did...but that doesnt mean you did not collude with your scum partner to place a (legal)vote on me :rolleyes:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Post 40- Visor votes CW
41- Lazy votes Visor
42- Pizza votes Lazy
49- atheotes votes Pizza
50- Salmon votes Pizza, breaks a nice streak we had going. Scumbag.
51- Edse votes Salmon
53- King votes Monty
54- GE votes Visor
55- GE still votes Visor, repeats himself
56- Ishmael votes atheotes
57- Monty votes Centurion
58- BSmith votes Edse
59- CH votes Xenoneb
60- Arjos votes Xehh II
61- dcmort votes King
65- Visor votes GE
67- DaveShack votes atheotes, not bolded not legal vote.
69- Memnon votes DaveShack
70- WEW votes Autolycus
71- Chaotix votes ATPG
72- Xenoneb abstains
81- Double A votes Visor
82- Cute Wolf abstains
87- Choxorn votes edse
88- Csargo abstains
89- Pizza votes atheotes.
================================This is where I made my vote
91- Visor votes atheotes
92- DaveShack votes atheotes


At the time you had one legal vote and Visor had 3. Four if GE is a double-voter. :tongue2:
I had three legal votes.

Therefore the motive you've ascribed to my actions doesn't exist.

[atheotes]

apologies - Lazy's tally was correct... i am the one who included the invalid vote.

@Pizza - but Visor is your partner :Tongue2:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I know and that means we're almost completely sunk already.

Fortunately Tuuvi isn't here, so there's still hope.

[atheotes]

I know and that means we're almost completely sunk already.

Fortunately Tuuvi isn't here, so there's still hope.

ooh...i forgot to mention that fact that you guys have vote influencing powers as well...or are you a werewolf?

More importantly, the town needs to lynch decisively. Maybe it is not important this phase...since we dont know what kind of vote influencing is possible.

[Askthepizzaguy]

decisive lynches are all well and good, when there's something worth deciding on. That said, the 37-person wagon or whatever it was I saw in the Star Wars game I hosted is a waste of time. It's not essential for everyone to wagon. A clear leader by three or four votes is plenty, because that can be reversed if new evidence come to light. Guilty people don't being more guilty or deader by a larger wagon, and a large wagon doesn't do a whole lot of good on an innocent person. Generally speaking, the further apart the lynch leader is from the runner-up, the less control the average voter has over the lynch, and since town pretty much only has the lynch as a weapon, mega-wagons favor scum and hurt analysis or tactical options.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Speaking of, this is getting into mafia theory. I propose a theory for you all to chew on-


A lynch by three or four votes (possibly higher, depending on the situation) is plenty as mentioned. Reversing a wagon of 10 or more is nigh-impossible with people's RL schedules and tendency to vote once-twice a day at most, plus the time limit.

As such, a pro-town voting procedure, not an enforceable rule but a "pro-town custom", might be the following.


Everyone places a vote to nominate someone for death. The nomination process requires you to choose someone who has been nominated three times or less.
You may, however, voice that you'd really rather nominate X, but X has already been sufficiently nominated, so you're going along with this procedure for the sake of cooperation.
Once the nomination process is complete, say halfway through a day phase, people place their votes on the people they really would like to see dead. However, once a leader has been established, say by having a clear plurality of the votes, it would be considered customary to not pile-on the leader, but to simply vote abstain and suggest that they are consenting to the leader's lynch.
Then, the leader can be reversed with ease, by a few persons, specifically the persons voting for that wagon, likely their main accusers. If their main accuser has reversed their opinion, it's likely due to a reveal of some kind, or new evidence brought to light, or someone else looking more guilty.
Should voting shenanigans take place, abstainers can then place an actual vote and ensure that the majority opinion still wins.



The purpose of all this: instead of pressuring one or two candidates at the beginning of a round and having, at most, 2-3 choices per round, most of them likely to be townies, the nomination process puts pressure on several candidates for death, and we will also see who supports whom for death out of those candidates. More information for the analytical player, and more information for the voter who thinks X is scummy but has no idea who else thinks X is scummy.

Finally, huge voting blocs won't be necessary for town to "change its mind". The accusers merely need to change their mind. Probably also explain why they changed their mind. As such, the vote will always be more dynamic, and any voted scumbag will always be just a couple votes away from death. Almost anyone can decide the round against them, making the average townie voter far more powerful. Vanilla townies can end up being decisive instead of just vote number 8 on lynchee of the day.

I would argue that this customary procedure would be almost exclusively pro-town, and that the anti-town forces who attempt to take advantage of the closer votes will have to do it more openly and nakedly, which is also pro-town.

[LazyMcCrow]

....and that's number wang.

[atheotes]

there - all the evidence we need for pizza being scum this game! he knows it is not practical - most people show up only once a day and some like me dont at all - so he is just saying it here to look like he is town! lynch him! NOW!

[Askthepizzaguy]

there - all the evidence we need for pizza being scum this game! he knows it is not practical - most people show up only once a day and some like me dont at all - so he is just saying it here to look like he is town! lynch him! NOW!

Maybe we should lynch you for not being present enough to make a difference. :mellow:

*trollface*

[Visor]

Maybe we should lynch you for not being present enough to make a difference. :mellow:

*trollface*
Maybe I should bus you.

[Montmorency]

Generally speaking, the further apart the lynch leader is from the runner-up, the less control the average voter has over the lynch, and since town pretty much only has the lynch as a weapon, mega-wagons favor scum and hurt analysis or tactical options.

Very nice.

Because I can not allow atheotes to be lynched.

Unvote; Vote: Visorslash

[LazyMcCrow]

Very nice.

Because I can not allow atheotes to be lynched.

Unvote; Vote: Visorslash

Why not?

unvote: visorslash vote: abstain

[Montmorency]

Why do you so badly want atheotes lynched?

[LazyMcCrow]

Why do you so badly want atheotes lynched?

I don't particularly - law of averages states that as he was just mafia in the last game, he probably isn't now - but I don't cross game so that should be irrelevant. The reason I unvoted visorslash putting atheotes back up is due to your post and you haven't answered my question. So I'll keep abstaining til you do.

[Montmorency]

theotes is up with a plurality, by the way. He will die for your intransigence.

[LazyMcCrow]

theotes is up with a plurality, by the way. He will die for your intransigence.

I had no idea ... that those were the rules, or indeed that it were the case. You haven't answered the question.

vote: Montmorency

[Montmorency]

I had no idea ... that those were the rules, or indeed that it were the case.

What? Alright:

People get vote, more than other people, get killed.

[LazyMcCrow]

What? Alright:

People get vote, more than other people, get killed.

Oh - your post implied that the situation was not reversible. Why don't you answer my question?

[LazyMcCrow]

Why do I get the feeling you're not going to.

[Montmorency]

Atheotes is clearly more valuable than Visorslash, who is scum of some sort. Do the right thing and lynch scum - I stake my credibility on it, and would ask the death-scanner to confirm.

[Visor]

Atheotes is clearly more valuable than Visorslash, who is scum of some sort. Do the right thing and lynch scum - I stake my credibility on it, and would ask the death-scanner to confirm.

You have as much credibility as a sack of dirt then.

[Montmorency]

HE PROVES IT

KILL

[Visor]

Daykill: Montmorency

[LazyMcCrow]

Atheotes is clearly more valuable than Visorslash, who is scum of some sort. Do the right thing and lynch scum - I stake my credibility on it, and would ask the death-scanner to confirm.

I love your assumptions and don't have any problem with them in theory - I just don't understand how you reached them. What makes atheotes more valuable than Visor?

[Montmorency]

He's not evil, and Visor is.

QED

[LazyMcCrow]

He's not evil, and Visor is.

QED

What - specifically - led you to this conclusion?

[Montmorency]

Their posts - why can't you see?

I refuse to handhold a grown player through this.

[LazyMcCrow]

Their posts - why can't you see?

I refuse to handhold a grown player through this.

Why do you refuse? What is so special about your methods that you can't share them?

[Visor]

Their posts - why can't you see?

I refuse to handhold a grown player through this.

Hahahahahahahaha. You have one of the worst gut instincts I have ever seen.

[Montmorency]

Why do you refuse? What is so special about your methods that you can't share them?

You must read the posts and interpret correctly. It is not something I can teach.


Hahahahahahahaha. You have one of the worst gut instincts I have ever seen.

This post, for instance, indicates that Visor believes me to be a townie in error, which of course he would have no reason to believe unless he knew that I'm not a member of his group.

Aha!

:smug:

[LazyMcCrow]

You must read the posts and interpret correctly. It is not something I can teach.



This post, for instance, indicates that Visor believes me to be a townie in error, which of course he would have no reason to believe unless he knew that I'm not a member of his group.

Aha!

:smug:

How so? Surely if he is a townie he'd surely have just as much reason to believe you a townie in error if you are erroneously accusing him?

[Montmorency]

But since he's not a townie, it's strong evidence that he is in fact scum.

That you can't see it leads me to suspect that you are on his payroll...

:shame:

But I will fight against you villains for as long as I can. There are more of us here than you can imagine.

[LazyMcCrow]

But since he's not a townie, it's strong evidence that he is in fact scum.

That you can't see it leads me to suspect that you are on his payroll...

:shame:

But I will fight against you villains for as long as I can. There are more of us here than you can imagine.

Psst. Look Up :rolleyes: Its a werewolf.

[Montmorency]

You admit to being a werewolf? Cool.

My clan has ways of dealing with rogue wolves.

[LazyMcCrow]

Grooming?

[Montmorency]

You are force-fed a magical elixir that transforms you into a bunny rabbit.

Then we eat you.

[LazyMcCrow]

You are force-fed a magical elixir that transforms you into a bunny rabbit.

Then we eat you.

...

5689

[Csargo]

Unvote:Abstain, Vote:LazyMcCrow

[LazyMcCrow]

Csargo - Just wondering if you're voting me because you think I am a werewolf? Or are you voting me because you think I am mafia? Or are you voting me because I am baiting Monty and you've seen my name next to the last few posts?

[Csargo]

Csargo - Just wondering if you're voting me because you think I am a werewolf? Or are you voting me because you think I am mafia? Or are you voting me because I am baiting Monty and you've seen my name next to the last few posts?

I did not like the timing of your vote switch to abstain.

[Jarema]

Could someone check the tally for me?

Atheotes:4 (Ishmael, ATPG, Visorslash, DaveShack, )
ATPG: 3 (Chaotix, Atheotes, Salmonsoil)
Visorslash: 3 ( God Emperor, Double A, Montmorency )

Montmorency: 2 (The King, LazyMcCrow)
edse: 2 (BSmith, Choxorn, )

Lazy McCrow: 1 (Csargo )
Xenoneb: 1 (classical hero,)
SalmonSoil: 1 (edse,)

Xehh II: 1 (Arjos,)

The King: 1 (dcmort93)
Daveshack: 1 (Memnon,)
Autolycus: 1 (wideyedwanderer,)
Abstain: Xenoneb, Cute Wolf

[Double A]

I nominate Pizza for death.

[autolycus]

Ties are interesting. Vote:Visorslash

[Memnon]

Ties are interesting. Vote:Visorslash
Agreed. Unvote; Vote: ATPG

[LazyMcCrow]

I did not like the timing of your vote switch to abstain.

That's a good reason! - Very 'townie' reasoning that - but not sure I see why you don't like the timing exactly. As you can see - there has been plenty of time for people to shift their votes about, and I hope it is evident why I took my vote off visorslash - it was because Monty voted him to keep atheotes alive instead of him, and I wanted to pressure Monty to talk more. So - tell me what was wrong with the timing for you please?

[atheotes]

Could someone check the tally for me?

Atheotes:4 (Ishmael, ATPG, Visorslash, DaveShack, )

Lazy McCrow: 2 (ATPG, Csargo )

You have ATPG voting twice - perhaps you let it slip that ATPG is mafia and has control over more than his vote. :idea2:

I nominate Pizza for death.
as per that game rules u need to post "vote:ATPG". Do it now :whip:

That's a good reason! - Very 'townie' reasoning that - but not sure I see why you don't like the timing exactly. As you can see - there has been plenty of time for people to shift their votes about, and I hope it is evident why I took my vote off visorslash - it was because Monty voted him to keep atheotes alive instead of him, and I wanted to pressure Monty to talk more. So - tell me what was wrong with the timing for you please?
You were quiet when people voted for me...why take issue now? :stare:

[atheotes]

time to keep a townie alive...

unvote; vote: visorslash

[Jarema]

You have ATPG voting twice


thanks

[Xenoneb]

If for no reason other then text walls, Unvote; Vote: ATPG

[edse]

Town doing the normal stuff ~:rolleyes:

[God Emperor]

Meh... My vote on visorslash wasn't meant to move him towards an actual lynch! :( He is much too fun for that.
Unvote; Vote: Edse

[edse]

4 Visorslash: Double A, Montmorency, autolycus, atheotes
4 ATPG: SalmonSoil, Chaotix, Memnon, Xenoneb
4 atheotes: Ishmael, ATPG, Visorslash, DaveShack
3 edse: BSmith, Choxorn, God Emperor
2 Montmorency: The King, LazyMcCrow
1 LazyMcCrow: Csargo
1 SalmonSoil: edse
1 Xenoneb: classical hero
1 Xehh II: Arjos
1 The King: dcmort93
1 autolycus: wideyedwanderer

1 Abstain: Cute Wolf
3 No Vote: Centurion1, Kagemusha, Xehh II

[Centurion1]

vote: atpg im on a diet and hate pizza.

Any of the big three care to make a day one defense?

[Centurion1]

unvote ; vote: visorslash

im a fickle man

[Askthepizzaguy]

There's no defense to being on a diet, Centurion. I'm not sure what you're expecting me to say.

I will say, however, that the current lynch vote is bad for town, and I am prepared to explain why under penalty of death after the night phase ends.

In other words, if I'm scum, I die day two. You have to listen to me on this.

If you don't like Visor or atheotes, push Edse or Monty. Make it happen. I will also switch.

[edse]

Why would I be a better lynch then Visor? Vote for someone scummy instead, like SalmonSoil or Memnon.

[Montmorency]

There's no defense to being on a diet, Centurion. I'm not sure what you're expecting me to say.

I will say, however, that the current lynch vote is bad for town, and I am prepared to explain why under penalty of death after the night phase ends.

In other words, if I'm scum, I die day two. You have to listen to me on this.

Why so nervous, Pizza?

Visor is now leader for lynch, not you.

Just as I foresaw.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why so nervous, Pizza?

Visor is now leader for lynch, not you.

Just as I foresaw.

It's a valid question, and you'll get your answer in due course if you give me the 12 hours benefit of doubt that I am requesting.

Otherwise, you need to lynch me. I'm not cooperating otherwise.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why would I be a better lynch then Visor? Vote for someone scummy instead, like SalmonSoil or Memnon.

There's any number of better candidates. I'm just saying we need to switch to them.

[Montmorency]

So you'll tell us a secret only if you either survive to the end of the day, or are lynched?

Come to the Paradise Palace, drink from the sacred chalice.

I will show you no malice, just promise to be my Alice.

[Chaotix]

Ok.

Unvote, Vote: atheotes

I'm going to regret letting you live, ATPG. I just know it.

[edse]

There's any number of better candidates. I'm just saying we need to switch to them.

I can vote Monty today if you vote Salmon tomorrow.

[Montmorency]

You guys are bizzare.

Are you just not paying attention, or are you in cahoots with Pizza?

[Visor]

You guys are bizzare.

Are you just not paying attention, or are you in cahoots with Pizza?

I'm not even drunk this time. I have no idea what you're on about, but (if town (happy now?)) you have the worst gut I have ever seen. You're becoming renata, with her inability to read me, and say I'm scum when I'm town (granted she never actually saw me as a scum role).

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ok.

Unvote, Vote: atheotes

I'm going to regret letting you live, ATPG. I just know it.

Because you're scum? :grin:

[Jarema]

Day ended.
Am I right that it is a tie between Atheotes And Visorslash?
If so, one of them will die.

I will insert here proper end of day when I come home from work (a few hours from now)

[Visor]

Day ended.
Am I right that it is a tie between Atheotes And Visorslash?
If so, one of them will die.

I will insert here proper end of day when I come home from work (a few hours from now)

Yeah its a tie.

[Jarema]

Town council members disputed whole day. At the end, two leading candidates emerged, namely Atheotes and Visorslash. They standed before the envoy.
'I see you cant decide yourself' - envoy from Hangum said, sitting comfortable between his two huge bodyguards. 'And waiting for your decision was boring. I need some entertaining. I also thing that exiling one of you would be... insufficient. We cant allow members of one of factions plot at exile. Killing would be better. More... final.'
'Today, I will let Barg, my older bodyguard decide. Stand up, Barg. Pick one of them'.
Barg walked slowly toward the accused council members. "This one looks BAD. Wanna kill this one' he said, and plunged his knive into Visorslash's heart.


Visorslash is dead!

As you remember there is no immediate info about dead characters

'Take his body to the basement. We should examine it and check if it is one of the werewolves. Good council members, we will meet at the begining of the next week'.


Night 1 begins!
Night one represents the rest of Week One. Moon is in a waxing phhase (at night two, there would be full moon). Remember to send me your night orders!



List of living players:
1. Montmorency
2. Arjos
3. LazyMcCrow
4. Edse
5. Askthepizzaguy
6. Bsmith
7. Autolycus
8. Chaotix
9. The King
10. Atheotes
11. Cute Wolf
12. Memnon
13. wideyedwandered
14. dcmort93
15. DoubleA
16.
17. Choxorn
18. Kagemusha
19. Classical Hero
20. Centurion1
21. Xehh II
22. God Emperor
23. Xenoneb
24. Csargo
25. Ishmael
26. Salmonsoil
27. Daveshack

[Visor]

Sigh. Good luck town, you'll definitely need it now. Was not expecting to be lynched.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I can't quote PMs in this game, but do you want me to summarize for them what happened?

[Visor]

Go ahead.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I was the lynch leader, wasn't feeling the Visorslash lynch. Contacted him privately, revealed that I don't have a role, and that I felt it was futile to try to get him lynched to spare myself (particularly in a game with power roles) when what usually happens is the next day I'd just get lynched anyway. I told him to do what he had to do to survive.

Then he told me he had a role, didn't say exactly what it was. We had a conversation, he didn't fully reveal. I tried to get the lynch off of him but without having to reveal. He did tell me he was planning to reveal by the end of night one for whatever reason. I can't speak for him on that. I did ask him not to.

I was actually going to false claim something so he could keep his cover, pointless now.

[atheotes]

Sigh. Good luck town, you'll definitely need it now. Was not expecting to be lynched.

If you didnt vote for me, i would never have switched my vote to you. you would have been alive.


I was the lynch leader, wasn't feeling the Visorslash lynch. Contacted him privately, revealed that I don't have a role, and that I felt it was futile to try to get him lynched to spare myself (particularly in a game with power roles) when what usually happens is the next day I'd just get lynched anyway. I told him to do what he had to do to survive.

Then he told me he had a role, didn't say exactly what it was. We had a conversation, he didn't fully reveal. I tried to get the lynch off of him but without having to reveal. He did tell me he was planning to reveal by the end of night one for whatever reason. I can't speak for him on that. I did ask him not to.

I was actually going to false claim something so he could keep his cover, pointless now.

Aww...look...isnt Pizza the model townie! ~:pat:

[LazyMcCrow]

I was the lynch leader, wasn't feeling the Visorslash lynch. Contacted him privately, revealed that I don't have a role, and that I felt it was futile to try to get him lynched to spare myself (particularly in a game with power roles) when what usually happens is the next day I'd just get lynched anyway. I told him to do what he had to do to survive.

Then he told me he had a role, didn't say exactly what it was. We had a conversation, he didn't fully reveal. I tried to get the lynch off of him but without having to reveal. He did tell me he was planning to reveal by the end of night one for whatever reason. I can't speak for him on that. I did ask him not to.

I was actually going to false claim something so he could keep his cover, pointless now.

I buy the bit about Visor being a dead role - probably something pro-town and powerful given the disappointment and general reticence to reveal. The rest I'll take with some bread and a nice piece of cheese.

[LazyMcCrow]

The pro-town power role thing would also fit with Visors disgust at Monty labeling him scum.

[Visor]

Turns out I can still post after death, which is good. Don't expect me to leave. :P

EDIT: As a heads up, I will most likely be drunk quite soon. So also expect spam. Sorry in advance Jarema.

[Montmorency]

Barg walked slowly toward the accused council members. "This one looks BAD. Wanna kill this one' he said, and plunged his knive into Visorslash's heart.

A man after my own heart. :wacky:

[Visor]

A man after my own heart. :wacky:

You are more wrong then murder. :tongue:

EDIT: That's probably offensive. Apologies.

I would guess that the mafia have roleblockers and vote bribers and bus drivers, they need the ability to disguise themselves. Godfather roles as well are a possiblity. Werewolves can probably kill throgh roleblocks on full moon.

[Double A]

That's a pretty detailed guess.


If for no reason other then text walls, Unvote; Vote: ATPG

This post strikes me as odd.

[Montmorency]

I would guess that the mafia have roleblockers and vote bribers and bus drivers, they need the ability to disguise themselves. Godfather roles as well are a possiblity. Werewolves can probably kill throgh roleblocks on full moon.

Well, werewolves get two kills during the Time of White Power.

Also, immunity to tied-lynch.


This post strikes me as odd.

It is; I told the unter-claw not to draw suspicion to himself, but I suppose the blood fever got to him.

[Jarema]

I decided that I will tell you that:
some roles are doubled at this game (the are two characters with exactly the same role). Some others are almost doubled (two characters with very similar roles with very similar names). But majority of roles are for one person only

[robbiecon]

Should it be required, I would be delighted to act as a replacement Jarema.

[Jarema]

Nice to hear that

[Xenoneb]

Yeah AA. It was odd.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Aww...look...isnt Pizza the model townie! ~:pat:

:rolleyes:

[Jarema]

Although night will end as planned, expect little delay with begining of the next day - I will be at work.

Also, after end of night I will start sending results to people. Please, do not post in a game thread after nights end before official update would be posted

[Jarema]

Chaotix was sleeping. He was dreaming about a perfect seed. Yellow, maybe a little beige. Hard. Just perfect. He imagined whole mountain of such grain. He reached and tried to grasp some, but something awaken him. Someone was sitting at his chest!
That was the last meaningful thought. Later, there was only blood and pain.

At other house, miner’s guild master was also sleeping. But his dream was light. He heard something moving behind the window and woke up. He lighted a torch and looked outside. Suddenly, a huge paw hit him, leaving four bloody tracks at his arm. He waved a torch, to scare beast away. Fortunately, he managed to close the door. And escape to the cellar, with very strong trapdoor. This saved his life.

City watch marshal was patrolling the streets when something hit him in the head.
He wake up few hours later, with a terrible headache. And with a lot of blood in his hairs. He never knew what (or who) attacked him, and why he survived

‘Welcome, council members’, Jarema (yes, that is the envoy’s name) said. ‘Get to the work. We have some killing to do’.
‘And one more thing. Magistrate clerk who examined Visorslash property and documents told me, that he had criminal contacts. Maybe that will interest you’

Day 2 begins!



List of living players:
1. Montmorency
2. Arjos
3. LazyMcCrow
4. Edse
5. Askthepizzaguy
6. Bsmith
7. Autolycus
8.
9. The King
10. Atheotes
11. Cute Wolf
12. Memnon
13. wideyedwandered
14. dcmort93
15. DoubleA
16.
17. Choxorn
18. Kagemusha
19. Classical Hero
20. Centurion1
21. Xehh II
22. God Emperor
23. Xenoneb
24. Csargo
25. Ishmael
26. Salmonsoil
27. Daveshack

[edse]

Well, I see no reason to change my vote from yesterday. Vote: SalmonSoil until something happens.

[Arjos]

Criminal contacts eh?

Vote: Xenoneb

For casually joining the counterwagon...

[LazyMcCrow]

Town doing the normal stuff ~:rolleyes:

which makes you?...
vote: edse

[Montmorency]

I have been wounded.

Vote: Abstain

[dcmort93]

Criminal contacts eh?

Vote: Xenoneb

For casually joining the counterwagon...

Seeing as this is about the only thing we have at the moment I'm also going to Vote: Xenoneb

[Montmorency]

Wait a tick, which counter wagon?

Counter Atheotes-Lynch or counter Visor-lynch?

What is the accusation here?

:inquisitive:

[wideyedwanderer]

We now know that Visorslash had "criminal contacts," which probably means he was anti-town. It's a possibility that he did not know the people he was in contact with were criminal, but considering it's still the start of the game, I find that very unlikely. So for now we can assume Visorslash was anti-town. Considering Xenoneb's suspicious behavior (trying to lynch ATPG for using "text walls" - perhaps trying to save his partner, Visorslash) I think the best thing we can do today will be to lynch Xenoneb. Vote: Xenoneb.

[Jarema]

From description of the game:

. Additionally, there will be roles (I think about 2) which would be able to give some info about deceased character. For example, person who can check if deceased has any criminal record (all mafia will have crilminal record, but some townies also).


And, by stating that Visor had criminal contacts I meant something like this (in other words,he scanned as a 'suspicious'. All mafia and some townies are 'suspicious'). I do not want to confuse you too much.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I still get bad vibes from Montmorency.. So, I'm going to finish what I started on Day 1..

Vote: Montmorency

[Xenoneb]

Vote: Edse
He's giving me weird feelings right now.

[Montmorency]

Get your heads straight, guys. Visor was clearly town. I just needed to save my brolfman Atheotes from your filthy hairless hands.

And now you think I'll let you bump my adjutant Xenon?

Come off it. Next you'll be telling me that you've never felt the urge to chew on human fat deposits.

:rolleyes:

[Xenoneb]

Or dislike Porsches!

[autolycus]

vote:God Emperor
Visorslash seems like he may have been mafia, and God Emperor left the Visor-wagon when it became serious, which could be distance vote, followed by, shoot my partner may get lynched.

[SalmonSoil]

vote: Montmorency

[Ishmael]

Come off it. Next you'll be telling me that you've never felt the urge to chew on human fat deposits.


Well, I have to admit that the Darkling and The Island games have given me a taste for human flesh :licks lips:.

On a serious note, vote: ATPG. Firstly because he tried to create a counter-wagon against Visor, which creates a plausible if tenuous case against him. Secondly, if we lynch him we can determine whether he is being a model townie or is just trying to lead us astray. ATPG has already demonstrated that he'll stay around to help after death, so that's no problem (as long as you don't wrongly accuse me of being scum again :stare:.)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well, I have to admit that the Darkling and The Island games have given me a taste for human flesh :licks lips:.

On a serious note, vote: ATPG. Firstly because he tried to create a counter-wagon against Visor, which creates a plausible if tenuous case against him. Secondly, if we lynch him we can determine whether he is being a model townie or is just trying to lead us astray. ATPG has already demonstrated that he'll stay around to help after death, so that's no problem (as long as you don't wrongly accuse me of being scum again :stare:.)

The second reason you used is blatant metagaming, and I don't have anything more to say about such weak play.

The first reason you used is absolute nonsense. I helped create a counterwagon to spare Visor. Which would create a lousy case against me if townies didn't also flip criminal.

If this is you being serious, I'd hate to listen to your jokes.

[Visor]

Well, I have to admit that the Darkling and The Island games have given me a taste for human flesh :licks lips:.

On a serious note, vote: ATPG. Firstly because he tried to create a counter-wagon against Visor, which creates a plausible if tenuous case against him. Secondly, if we lynch him we can determine whether he is being a model townie or is just trying to lead us astray. ATPG has already demonstrated that he'll stay around to help after death, so that's no problem (as long as you don't wrongly accuse me of being scum again :stare:.)

I would advocate your lynching for this post. And I am, as a model dead citizen.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Csargo

My baby needs some attention. We can't ignore such a beautiful being.

[Kagemusha]

Pizza. ​How it is in towns best interest not to have runaway bandwagons?

[Montmorency]

I'm going to throw you Vote: Centurion.

The clan is being torn apart by internal strife - Xenon and I will strike out on our own.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizza. ​How it is in towns best interest not to have runaway bandwagons?

I explained how when I advocated not doing so earlier in the game.

Is this a rhetorical question or a genuine one?

[Csargo]

Vote: Csargo

My baby needs some attention. We can't ignore such a beautiful being.

Why do you have to be like that? :on_runcrying:

[Choxorn]

I explained how when I advocated not doing so earlier in the game.

Is this a rhetorical question or a genuine one?

And I'm fairly certain you've explained why you don't like runaway bandwagons dozens of times now.

Vote: Kagemusha, because you should know better than that.

[BSmith]

vote: Monty. You are sowing too much confusion for my likes.

[Askthepizzaguy]

And I'm fairly certain you've explained why you don't like runaway bandwagons dozens of times now.

Vote: Kagemusha, because you should know better than that.

Kagemusha was the main villain in the Star Wars game wherein like 30 people voted for the same person. What a boring round.

You think he's scum for asking a thoughtless question?

Usually when Kagemusha's scum I'm calling him sexy and pointing out to everyone how scummy he is.

[Csargo]

That's a good reason! - Very 'townie' reasoning that - but not sure I see why you don't like the timing exactly. As you can see - there has been plenty of time for people to shift their votes about, and I hope it is evident why I took my vote off visorslash - it was because Monty voted him to keep atheotes alive instead of him, and I wanted to pressure Monty to talk more. So - tell me what was wrong with the timing for you please?

LazyMcCrow So, you switched your vote to abstain in order to pressure Monty to talk? It seemed to me that you were trying to reinstate the tie vote between atheotes and Visor. They were tied up until Monty's vote iirc.

Looking back now it may not have been the best reasoning, but I thought it was a decent lead for a vote on day 1.

[edse]

3 Xenoneb: Arjos, dcmort93, wideyedwanderer
3 Montmorency: The King, SalmonSoil, BSmith
2 edse: LazyMcCrow, Xenoneb
1 SalmonSoil: edse
1 God Emperor: autolycus
1 ATPG: Ishmael
1 Csargo: ATPG
1 Centurion: Montmorency
1 Kagemusha: Choxorn

11 No Vote: Atheotes, Cute Wolf, Memnon, DoubleA, Kagemusha, Classical Hero, Centurion1, Xehh II, God Emperor, Csargo, Daveshack

[Montmorency]

LazyMcCrow So, you switched your vote to abstain in order to pressure Monty to talk? It seemed to me that you were trying to reinstate the tie vote between atheotes and Visor. They were tied up until Monty's vote iirc.

Looking back now it may not have been the best reasoning, but I thought it was a decent lead for a vote on day 1.

Actually, when I switched my vote Visor and Pizza both had 3, while Ath had 4.

I was merely reinstating a tie, which Crow broke.

[God Emperor]

vote:God Emperor
Visorslash seems like he may have been mafia, and God Emperor left the Visor-wagon when it became serious, which could be distance vote, followed by, shoot my partner may get lynched.

Wouldn't a distance vote make a lot more sense if I actually stayed on voting Visor ? I don't follow that reasoning, how does it make sense?
Appart from that, I just vote Visorslash the first round out of tradition :)

[Cute Wolf]

vote : xenoeb

[Montmorency]

Guys, I really can not tolerate you voting my partner.

[Jarema]

3 Xenoneb: Arjos, dcmort93, wideyedwanderer
3 Montmorency: The King, SalmonSoil, BSmith
2 edse: LazyMcCrow, Xenoneb
1 SalmonSoil: edse
1 God Emperor: autolycus
1 ATPG: Ishmael
1 Csargo: ATPG
1 Centurion: Montmorency
1 Kagemusha: Choxorn

11 No Vote: Atheotes, Cute Wolf, Memnon, DoubleA, Kagemusha, Classical Hero, Centurion1, Xehh II, God Emperor, Csargo, Daveshack

Thanks, Edse. I was just going to make a tally when I saw this :)
Excelent work, thank to all you guys who make my hosting easier.

[Memnon]

I'm not sure I like how SalmonSoil votes without any elaboration, it makes the game much less entertaining. Vote: SalmonSoil

[Double A]

vote: Xenoneb for the stuff I said yesterday.

You all should go get CK2.

[Xenoneb]

Unvote; Vote: SalmonSoil

[Xenoneb]

Unvote; Vote: SalmonSoil
I can't edit those post,can I?

[Montmorency]

:disappointed:

Please guys, give him a chance.

[SalmonSoil]

I'm not sure I like how SalmonSoil votes without any elaboration, it makes the game much less entertaining. Vote: SalmonSoil

I was mostly just getting bad vibes off Monty, and its somewhere to lay my vote until something happens.

Also Monty did that little "It's obvious if you read their posts but I'm not going to point it out for you" thing yesterday.

[Montmorency]

Wait, why the double standard then?

It would be in my best interest for you to vote yourself.

[Memnon]

Not necessarily, what if by some chance he's on your side? Unless you know he's not, which is why you said that, and who knows who's on whose side? The mafia, that's who... Unfortunately, this is all unreal. But for the time being, I will Vote: Daveshack, who I have not seen speak yet.

By the way, thanks for answering so quickly, SalmonSoil, I've never known how to read Monty (in the 2 or 3 games I've played), but he seems to act this way more often than not.

[Montmorency]

The Mafia? Don't forget the werewolves and the masons...

[Montmorency]

In case I haven't made it clear in the last couple days: Xenon and I are Masons.

[Xenoneb]

Meaning complete townies.

[Montmorency]

"Good" townies, no less.

[classical_hero]

So what is a "bad" townie?

[Montmorency]

Pizza knows.

[Csargo]

Actually, when I switched my vote Visor and Pizza both had 3, while Ath had 4.

I was merely reinstating a tie, which Crow broke.

I see.

[atheotes]

Vote: Edse

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote, vote: Edse

[edse]

5 Xenoneb: Arjos, dcmort93, wideyedwanderer, Cute Wolf, DoubleA
3 Montmorency: The King, SalmonSoil, BSmith
3 edse: LazyMcCrow, atheotes, ATPG
2 SalmonSoil: edse, Xenoneb
1 God Emperor: autolycus
1 ATPG: Ishmael
1 Centurion: Montmorency
1 Kagemusha: Choxorn
1 DaveShack: Memnon

7 No Vote: , Kagemusha, Classical Hero, Centurion1, Xehh II, God Emperor, Csargo, Daveshack

Less than 5 hours left.

And why are you voting for me? only to save Xenoneb and Montmorency?

[Jarema]

Tere is current tally, I hope.
Once more, day will end as scheduled, but description will follow later.

5 Xenoneb: Arjos, dcmort93, wideyedwanderer, Cute Wolf, DoubleA
3 Montmorency: The King, SalmonSoil, BSmith
3 edse: LazyMcCrow, Atheotes, ATPG
2 SalmonSoil: edse, Xenoneb
1 God Emperor: autolycus
1 ATPG: Ishmael
1 Centurion: Montmorency
1 Kagemusha: Choxorn
1 Daveshack: Memnon
7 No Vote: Kagemusha, Classical Hero, Centurion1, Xehh II, God Emperor, Csargo, Daveshack

[Jarema]

ahh
ninja'ed.
but it is good that we have the same results :)

[atheotes]

In case I haven't made it clear in the last couple days: Xenon and I are Masons.

Why are you guys not trying to save yourself?

Kage - you show up but dont vote? whats up with that?

[Kagemusha]

Why are you guys not trying to save yourself?

@Kage (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=4145) - you show up but dont vote? whats up with that?

I thought i would have had time to vote during yesterday evening. Apparently i didnt. One way to flush out scum is to test reactions and that was exactly the point behind my question to ATPG. I must admit though the answer was not very scummy, but ATGP if anyone can play consistent mafia.Still for now i dont see him as scum.

[Jarema]

Today, council members decided by themselves, that they want Xenoneb dead.
Jarema, glad that things were going smoother than yesterday, shooted him personally.

As you remember, there is no immediate info. But tommorow, there would be info about person lynched on day one!


List of living players:
1. Montmorency
2. Arjos
3. LazyMcCrow
4. Edse
5. Askthepizzaguy
6. Bsmith
7. Autolycus
8.
9. The King
10. Atheotes
11. Cute Wolf
12. Memnon
13. wideyedwandered
14. dcmort93
15. DoubleA
16.
17. Choxorn
18. Kagemusha
19. Classical Hero
20. Centurion1
21. Xehh II
22. God Emperor
23.
24. Csargo
25. Ishmael
26. Salmonsoil
27. Daveshack

[Jarema]

Kagemusha and Xehh II: if you do not vote tommorow, you will be replaced

[Montmorency]

What a shame.

[Askthepizzaguy]

This is the second day in a row someone claimed to be an important town role with ample time before the buzzer, and barely any attempt was made to spare the person in question.

Is this thing on?

At least we know if we catch a scumbag, they can't claim a townie power role to avoid their fate.