The House of Origin [Concluded]

[TinCow]

Just give it up, I'm not giving you the last name. You will not convince me otherwise. If you want to lynch me for that, then just get it over with. This conversation has long passed it usefulness and it's giving everyone but you and I a free ride through this day phase.

[Buddhafish]

Hmm, both interesting arguments.

I have to agree with TinCow a bit more though, Monty. Just because all of the people who were in vig groups claim publicly doesn't make them town.

Vote: Abstain, because that's all I really have time for right now.

[Chaotix]

Hmm, both interesting arguments.

I have to agree with TinCow a bit more though, Monty. Just because all of the people who were in vig groups claim publicly doesn't make them town.

Vote: Abstain, because that's all I really have time for right now.

Wrong. If we know there are four mafia (we do) and we know all four of them were in last night's write-up (we don't, only three are clearly present), then we know everyone else in the write-up is innocent.

However, that doesn't meant it's necessarily a good idea to reveal them publicly. Privately and to a trustable source would be better.

[Montmorency]

I hope your partner and protectors do the right thing, in the end.

Vote: Autolycus

Edse, a tally? We should try to at least avoid lynching one of the 8...



I have to agree with TinCow a bit more though, Monty. Just because all of the people who were in vig groups claim publicly doesn't make them town.

There's more to it than that. Go through the posts again.


we don't, only three are clearly present

Three? There were two: Arjos' killers. Presumably the same that killed Atheotes yesterday. The other two may be dead or performing other actions (in fact, they may have abilities beyond killing; with such large teams, it is not uncommon - it is even likely. They may even be restricted to one kill per night...).

[Montmorency]

Vote: Autolycus

[Riedquat]

♫ I've got to be sure, when I walk out that door. ♪

Yes, it technically is possible:

Doesn't want to reveal his partner, because White eyes is his partner and BSmith was town - Ried made a slip.

Doesn't want to reveal partner because there is none to reveal; Ried, Bsmith, Tincow, and Whiteyes were the starting scum.

Technically. I have some faith in you, however, and doubt that you would panic into this kind of trap. Riedquat, on the other hand... :sneaky:


Huh? I'm panicking? You had seen me panicking in the past Monty... can't see why do you think I'm panicking now, I'm nobody this time around :)

[Riedquat]

tincow 4 (andres chaotix doublea ishmael)
WE:D 1 (edse)
jolt 2 (gh jarema)
lazy maccrow (1 makrell)
edse 1 (WE)
jarema 1 (visorslash)
monty 1 (tincow)
autolycus 1 (monty)

And a couple absteining, feel free to recheck

[Jarema]

Montmorency, I think that participating in attack groups last night does not clear anyone.
Scum may sent orders together with other players. We do not know how many scum is out there. I am afraid it would be too easy if we could take innocence of our partner for granted

[Jarema]

oops I missed that there are only 4 mafioso.
well...

[Captain Blackadder]

Vote:Jolt

I think that Tincow is making a lot of sense to me with this game revealing the groups would not work as Tincow said his partner did not give the order.Yet the kill went through with no issue.There is nothing in the write up that I can see to indicate that someone did not send in orders.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: GH

Absolutely no reason. I am placing a vote to indicate my activity and general disinterest in every case made so far. Too lazy to work harder.

[LazyMcCrow]

You've crossed the line from interrogating for lynch purposes to trying to gain names of active vigging townies. I specifically said that on N5 we had two full sets of two, plus a fifth, so the kill absolutely would have succeeded under the rules and there's no purpose at all for you to need to know the extra names. The questionable activity was on N1, with the group of 3, not N2, with the group of 5. You are fishing for information, and you are scummy.

Unvote; Vote: Monty

I agree. In the write-up it says that TinCow was some doddery old scholar - albeit apparently a vengeful vigilante one. Something quite zesty and zealous about Monty's interrogation.

vote: Montmorency

[Choxorn]

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Edited to remove hotlinking

[Montmorency]

I think that Tincow is making a lot of sense to me with this game revealing the groups would not work as Tincow said his partner did not give the order.Yet the kill went through with no issue.There is nothing in the write up that I can see to indicate that someone did not send in orders.


I agree. In the write-up it says that TinCow was some doddery old scholar - albeit apparently a vengeful vigilante one. Something quite zesty and zealous about Monty's interrogation.


Montmorency, I think that participating in attack groups last night does not clear anyone.
Scum may sent orders together with other players. We do not know how many scum is out there. I am afraid it would be too easy if we could take innocence of our partner for granted

Are you just taking the piss? I addressed these points!

As for McCrow, well, that's the worst thing I've seen all game. You're (a), taking the character's personal appearance in the writeups as definitive proof of anything, and (b), zesty - really?

It hasn't escaped my notice that you three are not among the Eight...

Retrack through my posts, if the welfare of the town is really in your best interests.

[Riedquat]

bleh
Vote: abstain

[Jarema]

Are you just taking the piss? I addressed these points!


tl; dr :verycool:

[Buddhafish]

Well from what I read, there were two or three (it's being disputed) mafioso in the write-up, along with some vig groups. The game says there are four mafioso.

2 (or 3) = 4? I don't think that math adds up. Ergo, there could have been a mafioso in a vig group. Maybe two. Maybe there's a mafioso pair sneaking into a town vig group. Maybe there is a mafioso partnered with a townie, all used to establish credibility. I've seen that strategy used before, and I've used it before. People being in vig groups only proves that they were active.

That's where I disagree with you, Monty.

[seireikhaan]

Round over, got some tallying to do.

[Montmorency]

2 (or 3) = 4? I don't think that math adds up. Ergo, there could have been a mafioso in a vig group. Maybe two. Maybe there's a mafioso pair sneaking into a town vig group. Maybe there is a mafioso partnered with a townie, all used to establish credibility. I've seen that strategy used before, and I've used it before. People being in vig groups only proves that they were active.

Here's the breakdown again.

If the Mafia are in their own groups - and we know that this is true about at least one pair, the one that killed Atheotes and Arjos - then why would one pair waste time getting in with townies? There's not much to gain, unless you assert that this hypothetical group is geared toward infiltration. Infiltration only makes sense if you have no abilities and only one kill is allotted for the Mafia per night, or if your ability is geared toward infiltration. And why assume such a thing? Why not rather assume that the Mafia would be performing their own night actions according to their own special abilities? Furthermore, why would they, if cooperating with town, do so two nights in a row?

Again: Again, we know that one of our pairs is full-mafia. it has killed twice so far. Khaan's wording:
The mafia may be infiltrated into these starting groups, or may be in their own groups (plural). This makes it basically certain that the other two scum are in a pair as well. I believe I have demonstrated clearly that this pair would probably be in a supporting role for now, or has been broken apart through the death of one scum. A supporting pair would only work with townies for two nights in a row if the two scum in it have no abilities or abilities geared toward infiltration.

The most crucial thing you should keep in mind about these cleared is that they are not absolutely cleared; they are instead in the 90+% range, or "almost-as-good-as-it-will-get". The lynch for tomorrow and the day after tomorrow must be decided against a player outside this group of 8. What I have put forth should be good for at least that much.

By the way, Tincow is being lynched in 2 minutes. Good job, guys.

[Zack]

Your logic is flawed. It's far more likely that one starting pair consists of two mafia, and that two other starting pairs consist of one mafia and one townie each.

[Montmorency]

It's far more likely that one starting pair consists of two mafia, and that two other starting pairs consist of one mafia and one townie each.

The host's wording seems unambiguous.

[seireikhaan]

Without needing any encouragement, my retinue descended into another debate. A fight soon broke out between two small factions, one led against TinCow, the other being TinCow and his supporters. He was charged with slaying upstanding members of the royal guard, which he did not deny. However he implied that their demise was necessary and good, as they were the ones at fault. It didn't take long for the fight to escalate into a fist fight. A few tried to pull the parties apart, but sadly, more seemed incited and jumped into the fray. By the time I intervened with the guard, it seemed that Kagemusha had unfortunately received a hopefully inadvertent knife to his left eye, embedding itself quite deep into his skull. What a pity. Alas, not that there's much to do about it now. I decided to wrap this up now before we had any further accidents.

"Very well, my uh, stalwart supporters! What have we discovered? Who is to receive divine punishment?"

It seemed the aggressor party against TinCow had won out support, and he was shoved in front of me. He didn't seem to resist by this point.

"TinCow, for the crime of homicide against your royal comrades, I hereby sentence you to death," I proclaimed in my "official" voice. I drew my blade, and finally executed a perfect slice across a neck, sending TinCow's head tumbling down to the floor. I did not show it, but I secretly puffed with pride at my first truly successful execution. Surely, I was well on my way now!

"Now, remember!" I turned to the crowd. "Our first priority is to find an exit, not kill each other! We can do that when we get back to the palace!"


Tally:


TinCow 4 (Andres, Chaotix, Double A, Ishmael)
Jolt 3 (Jarema, GH, Captain Blackadder)
Montmorency 2 (Lazy McCrow, TinCow)
White eyes 1 (Edse)
Edse 1 (White Eyes)
Lazy McCrow 1 (Makrell)
Ishmael 1 (Lazy McCrow)
Jarema 1 (Visorslash)
Autolycus 1 (Montmorency)
GH 1 (ATPG)

Abstain (Buddhafish, Riedquat)


It is now Night 3! You have 24 hours!



Alive:

Andres
Askthepizzaguy
Autolycus
Buddhafish
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Choxorn
Double A
Edse
GeneralHankerchief
Ishmael
Jarema
Jolt
Lazy McCrow
Makkrel
Montmorency
Riedquat
Visorslash
White Eyes
Xenoneb

Lynched:

NinjaCow (D1)
God Emperor (D2)
TinCow (D3)

Killed:

Atheotes (N1)
JoanK (N1)
Arjos (N2)
Bsmith (N2)
Ironside (N2)
Zack (N2)

Attacked:

Ishmael (N1)
Tincow (N2)

Wrath of Khaan:

Kagemusha (D3)

[Zack]

The host's wording seems unambiguous.
Yes, very unambiguous.


The mafia may be infiltrated into these starting groups, or may be in their own groups (plural).

[Montmorency]

"Or"

[TinCow]

I suggest you start looking elsewhere for scum other than by trying to clear or incriminate people simply on the basis of participation in basic townie night actions. The rules are such that you cannot possibly do more than speculate about what the setup is or is not. My personal opinion is that both scenarios are likely true, and that there's a starting duo of mafia with the other two as individuals with townie partners. Such a setup is a bit more devious and of the kind that I would expect from 'khaan.

Also, kill/lynch Monty.

[Zack]

"Or"
Yes, as in those are the two possibilities for each individual mafia member. Don't be so picky/literal about semantics.

[Montmorency]

"The" Mafia, not "each mafioso. Why do you two believe that the host would say something unambiguous in the rules and contravene it without any notice?

I will accept any Mafia kill of me with open arms. I am not protected. Viggers would do best to look elsewhere.

[Zack]

You know he did not mean an either/or situation, and you know he was being ambiguous. Stop being so literal about the wording and grammatical structuring of the statement, unless you're going to argue that the following excerpt from the rules:


You must unvote:Askthepizzaguy in order to recant the previous vote.

means that unless you "unvote:Askthepizzaguy", your unvote is not counted.

[Montmorency]

I see no reason why they should be approached in the same way. The setup of a game is a very particular thing. The rules of voting in the Game of Mafia are generalizable, and far less strict. They are loose, informal, and stylistically variable.

If a host, in the setup paragraph, presents a THIS or THAT clause, I'm going to take his word for it.

[TinCow]

I see no reason why they should be approached in the same way. The setup of a game is a very particular thing. The rules of voting in the Game of Mafia are generalizable, and far less strict. They are loose, informal, and stylistically variable.

If a host, in the setup paragraph, presents a THIS or THAT clause, I'm going to take his word for it.

Congratulations, you have exceeded even my levels of pedantry.

[White_eyes:D]

I think everyone in that vig on Zack is dead, it's just a matter of time. I personally blame Monty and everyone who attacked TinCow.:wall:

[Montmorency]

I don't think this game will last for 7 more nights...

[Zack]

I think everyone in that vig on Zack is dead
Let this be a lesson to you all! :stare:

[Jarema]

I wonder why Kage was wogged and Jolt was not. Maybe, just maybe, Jolt was active at night?

[edse]

Any active and alive pair interested in working with me and Makrell? Contact us as fast as possible.

[White_eyes:D]

I don't think this game will last for 7 more nights...
Because your stubborn-as-a-mule attitude thinks all four of them must have been in that group?:laugh4:

And Pizzaguy used to complain at how stubborn I was.:no:

[Askthepizzaguy]

And Pizzaguy used to complain at how stubborn I was.:no:

"was"?

I still feel like there's going to be an inevitable White_eyes vote for me.

I'm deliberately not killing you because of the sweet anticipation.

[Montmorency]

In some languages, "mule" is pronounced like 'the donkey's hole'.

Anyway, your concern is unwarranted.

[seireikhaan]

Well, the night is over. This... might take a bit longer than usual.

[edse]

We're all going to die! 7462

[seireikhaan]

It was time for action. Time to prove myself! I held my trusty morningstar in my hands, gazing upon its lustrous sheen. I can’t believe I hadn’t done this yet! Just having the weapon in my hands, it felt like nothing I’d experienced. I had power! This is amazing! I feel incredible! Yes! Yes! Yes! I can win! I’m the greatest! I. CAN. DO. THIS! I turned the corner of the hallway to find my prey, Montmorency, accompanied by two fellows, with a fourth walking mechanically at the end of the hall. They were no match for me! Raising my weapon high, I screamed with the fury of my transcendence as I rushed my target. The two men near me split apart and scattered in my terrible wake. Alarm overtook Montmorency’s face as he withdrew a sword from its sheath. I closed in and swung the mace overhand with force that would shatter the palace walls… and was stunned as Montmorency deftly stepped to the side and sliced my right hand, causing me to drop my morningstar. Montmorency held his blade in a duelist’s pose, the point just inches from my neck. I swore. This was impossible! Had I… been defeated?

“This is impossible!” I screamed in a tone a few pitches higher than I’d intended, as I ran back down the hall, the two fellows snickering at me as I fled for my life.






There he was. Another blasphemer. I withdrew my knife. Chaotix was sitting in the middle of the great forum, on the dais itself, reserved for the priests themselves! He was cross legged, with his eyes closed. I stepped quietly to the dais and pulled up short. I hesitated. Chaotix was still apparently unaware of my presence. Was it proper to step onto it even if to remove someone else? I looked at the knife in my hand. Blast its curvature, this wouldn’t even be proper for throwing.

“Forgive me,” I whispered in prayer.

“I do,” Chaotix spoke back, the smallest of smiles on his face. My eyes went wide. He dared to pretend to be a god! In a rage, I leaped upon the dais, and ran the knife into his throat, and began to haul his flailing body off the dais. I tossed it upon the ground and proceeded to mutilate it beyond recognition. Nobody would recognize this body for a burial, as he deserved for his crimes.





“It’s good to be out doing something,” I said to Hashel. “Hopefully we can head off any more bloodshed.” The emperor had just dismissed us, and we already had a plan together; even if some didn’t want it, we were going to help save lives, rather than cause further mayhem. Hashel didn’t answer me, but kept walking. “Hashel?” I asked. He was usually quite talkative, so his silence was odd. He stopped, and slowly turned his head to me. I gasped.

His eyes had become a violent shade of deep red, and blood was seeping down his face from a wound that stretched across it. He opened his mouth to say something, and a swarm of bees came spewing forth. They swarmed around me, and in a panic, I took flight down the hallway away from the monster that Hashel had become. Still, the swarm followed me, until I found I had taken a wrong turn, and ran into a dead end. I cowered and sat down, putting my head into my knees, trying to pretend the swarm wasn’t there. Naturally, the bees instead descended upon me, landing all over me, into my hair, across my arms and legs. Yet, they did not sting. They walked across me like a second, barbed skin, but no harm came to me.

Of course… I lifted my head, and more of the insects descended upon my face. It was my fear that was disabling me. It was not the insects, nothing else. Without warning, their buzzing grew louder, and they flew from me, and reformed their swarm in front of me. They moved out, slowly, as though inviting me to follow. I followed, renewed in my confidence. It was as though I was reborn! What a glorious feeling! I followed the swarm back to the camp, which currently was deserted. It hovered over where my belongings lay.

“Yes, yes…” I whispered. “It’s so logical, how did I never see it!” I rummaged through my belongings and found my treasured bear pelt, a trophy from a hunt with the emperor himself. I threw it across my shoulders, the maw of the slain beast resting upon my head. I grabbed my knife. The hunt, the glorious hunt was renewed! I was suddenly aware of how silent it was. The swarm, my guide, had vanished. It was no trouble. They had shown me the path, shown me how to overcome my fear. I took off at a sprint down the nearest hallway, reveling in the exuberance of fearlessness. I turned a corner and ran straight into Riedquat, who was limping along. We tumbled to the ground in a heap. Riedquat immediately began to scramble away from me. Was this… fear? I must show him to overcome it! As the swarm did for me! I scrambled to my feet as well, and lunged at him, bringing my knife to bear. It slashed his forearm as I tumbled into him again.

How bizarre. He didn’t seem to come to the revelation! Instead, he kept screaming like he was in pain! It hadn’t been enough, clearly. I brought my knife into his gut and twisted it. Still he screamed! I brought it down into his chest. His neck. I gashed his face. Finally. Silence. His face was quite still, beautifully decorated with crimson. He finally understood the absence of fear. I picked myself up. My bear pelt had fallen off during the scrum. Well, at least it hadn’t gotten blood on it. I threw it around my shoulders once more and stalked off to see if I couldn’t find anyone else to teach the glory of fearlessness…






I found myself in an old library. It was quite magnificent. Countless texts lining the walls, in remarkable condition. I was hoping I could find some insight into what that large, vacant forum was used for. I don’t know why it was bugging me so much. Perhaps it was just curiosity. Either way, I unfolded a well preserved scroll. I began to read from the top, but the words were… fuzzy. My eyesight was beginning to blur, until finally, a single word stood out.

Kill.

Of course! How could I have missed it! The forum wasn’t important. It was completely irrelevant. All that mattered was to feel the rush, the adrenaline. To feel the joy that it was to…

Kill.

I threw the scroll the ground. Yes, he was nearby. I could practically feel his pulse beating with my own. I darted out the library as fast as I could, withdrawing my new sword. I wheeled around, and found Makrell, relaxing by a large fountain. Three armed men with swords stood nearby. Security? That didn’t matter. They would not be able to stop it…

Kill.

I grinned at the three, who stepped forth, swords drawn. I sprinted straight at them, mine drawn as well. The first sliced high, but I ducked underneath. A second struck low, but I tumbled over it, avoiding it as well. The third was simply shocked that I’d maneuvered my way past so easily. Makrell stood before me in amazement. Nothing could halt it now…

Kill.

I sprinted at Makrell and lanced my sword straight into his chest as I ran past, the point crunching through a rib and into vital organs. I let the blade go and continued my sprint past, finally wheeling around to watch as Makrell choked and died on the metal in his midsection, bleeding out on the floor. The three guards recovered their composure and began to chase, but they would never catch me. I was on a high of adrenaline, reveling the thrill, the wonderment, of what it was to…

Kill.






This place would never cease to amaze me. I get the feeling we could explore it for decades and still find new surprises. I had discovered a strange cavern that ran out of the usual marble pathways. The marble ended and became gentle dirt. There was a large hole in the cavern, but it was incredibly high up. Light peaked through and seemed to angle in impossible ways, lighting the whole cavern. In the middle, a stream ran through from the wall and traversed the entire length before going underground, causing a beautiful selection of flora to have flourished in the middle. I was examining a gorgeous rose when I heard a hissing from behind me. I turned on a heel, and found a man at the entrance, armed with a pair of curved daggers. He wasted no time, sprinting at me. I startled backwards, and lost my balance as my foot stepped on the edge of the stream. I tumbled backwards as he tackled me, the two of us tumbling into the stream. It wasn’t deep, but my attacker was on top, and brought his knives to bear, slashing into my chest. The water was ice cold on my wounds, to the point it felt like agonizing fire. I felt the weight lift off me as my attacker dragged himself back to land. I straggled myself to the edge, gasping both for the lack of air and the agony in my chest. He stood, dripping, rage in his face.

“Edse, in the name of the true divine,” he paused for a moment, catching his own breath. “Die!” He brought the knives down onto my shoulder and neck, and the world went dark…






“Are you sure about this?” Heshin asked me. “You’re certain about this?”

“Of course, my dear Heshin,” I responded. “I do not act without great certainty. We were quite successful last time, were we not?” Heshin nodded. We were looking to reach the old library, on a hunch I had. Sure enough, when we arrived, we found White Eyes pouring over an old scroll. He seemed so engrossed in his work that he did not notice us arrive. I unsheathed my sword, giving off an illustrious ringing noise as it was withdrawn from its holding. White Eyes finally looked up at us in surprise.

“Can I help you, gentlemen?” He asked.

“Yes, you can, White Eyes,” I commanded. “You may sit still, and submit to righteous judgment,” I said, pointing my sword at him. His eyes widened.

“But, my good sirs, I have done nothing wrong! I have been at my work here, trying to discover the mysteries of this incredible place, nothing more!” Heshin looked at me, somewhat questioningly, but he still withdrew his own sword.

“I believe that you are lying. Now, do you accept your judgment, or must we force it upon you?”

White Eyes didn’t respond, instead starting to walk backwards. He tripped over a manuscript on the ground and fell on his back. I stepped forward up to the panicked man. “In his name, I condemn you, White Eyes, for the crime of slaughter!” White Eyes closed his eyes as I ran him through with my blade, following it with a decisive slice upon his neck, rending his head to the floor. Heshin sheathed his sword, clearly looking troubled.

“Do not worry, dear Heshin,” I said, putting a hand on his shoulder. “We fight with just cause. The embrace of the divine will not let us err.”





May the gods help us all... I arrived back and even more members of the retinue had seemingly vanished. Our numbers were dwindling fast. There were many who confirmed that we did indeed have assassins in our midst that were the cause of it, and not just people getting lost in the labyrinth. With a sigh, I silently raised my hand to indicate another round of searching for the assassin. I sat down dejectedly next to the scribe and let the chaos ensue.



IT IS NOW DAY 4. WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC REALIGNMENT FOR PARTNERS.

If you wish a new partner, you may submit a vote for a new one in thread in the format of Partner: Sigurd Fafnesbane. If that person accepts, you will become partners. If you do not make any vote of submission or accept a new offer, you will continue to be with whoever you will have no change from your current partnership arrangement. If a partner leaves you and you do not accept or vote to have a new one, you will have no partner. As a reminder, successful group actions at night will require four people in total, and at least one complete partnership working in concert to achieve 100% success.

THIS IS IN ADDITION TO VOTING FOR A LYNCH.

Last note, Jolt will suffer Wrath of Khaan if he does not lodge a vote today.

You have 24 hours.



Alive:

Andres
Askthepizzaguy
Autolycus
Buddhafish
Captain Blackadder
Choxorn
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
Ishmael
Jarema
Jolt
Lazy McCrow
Montmorency
Visorslash
Xenoneb

Lynched:

NinjaCow (D1)
God Emperor (D2)
TinCow (D3)

Killed:

Atheotes (N1)
JoanK (N1)
Arjos (N2)
Bsmith (N2)
Ironside (N2)
Zack (N2)
Chaotix (N3)
Edse (N3)
Makrell (N3)
Riedquat (N3)
White Eyes (N3)

Attacked:

Ishmael (N1)
Tincow (N2)

Wrath of Khaan:

Kagemusha (D3)

[seireikhaan]

Feedback is out.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I need a partner. People with access to medicine preferred.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote: Xenoneb

Really, we have basically like a 50% chance of taking down a killer today.

[Montmorency]

Double A failed to show for the protection on Makrell.

He sent out the confirmation 18 minutes after deadline. That is disgusting. I'm seriously thinking I should scrap my reveal-scheme and just push for his lynch.

Vote: Visorslash

[Montmorency]

And yes, all the revealers died - except our three. Wonderful.

Why the heck did 3rd-party go in for the kill against these guys? What was the point?

Also, the mixed setup idea is demolished - there were two Mafia kills today. Two pair kills shuts down the notion.

There are two Mafia pairs operational.

[Captain Blackadder]

General I also need a partner are you willing to? Unfortunately no knowledge of medicine on this front.

[Chaotix]

And yes, all the revealers died - except our three. Wonderful.

Why the heck did 3rd-party go in for the kill against these guys? What was the point?

Also, the mixed setup idea is demolished - there were two Mafia kills today. Two pair kills shuts down the notion.

There are two Mafia pairs operational.

Wrong. There is one pair and one solo kill that correspond to the mafia (getting mad at defilers, etc.). This is the same as last night, so I think we can assume that one of the mafia died during Day or Night 1.

There's obviously also a serial killer (kill in red).

The other kills last night seem to be another serial killer or possibly cultist (the bees) and a pro-town vigilante.

[GeneralHankerchief]

General I also need a partner are you willing to? Unfortunately no knowledge of medicine on this front.

I'll partner up with you if nobody with knowledge answers me within a certain amount of time. :yes:

[Riedquat]

And yes, all the revealers died - except our three. Wonderful.

Why the heck did 3rd-party go in for the kill against these guys? What was the point?



Encourage others to reveal, of course... :2thumbsup:

[Montmorency]

I'm not, dear Riedquat. Though if course should the killers wish to submit to the lynch, that would give us hope of victory...


Wrong. There is one pair and one solo kill that correspond to the mafia (getting mad at defilers, etc.). This is the same as last night, so I think we can assume that one of the mafia died during Day or Night 1.

There's obviously also a serial killer (kill in red).

The other kills last night seem to be another serial killer or possibly cultist (the bees) and a pro-town vigilante.

I didn't read far enough. The Hashel kill seems to be solo. The second - Hashel - disappears early on.

Anyway, very well; but there is only one Mafia kill: Whiteeyes'.

Edse or Chaotix might be a vig-kill, but my attacker, Ried's killer, Makrell's killer, and all that are clearly third-party.

In a game with so many killings, would it make sense to allow one of a scum-pair to kill solo?

Xenon is a lurker, but Visorslash is definitely scum. Please vote him - this hunch is gold, I swear it.

[Double A]

Double A failed to show for the protection on Makrell.

He sent out the confirmation 18 minutes after deadline. That is disgusting. I'm seriously thinking I should scrap my reveal-scheme and just push for his lynch.

Damn. All I can say is I'm incredibly sorry.

[Visor]

Xenon is a lurker, but Visorslash is definitely scum. Please vote him - this hunch is gold, I swear it.

Really now? Go on. 90% sure are you?

[Montmorency]

Really now? Go on. 90% sure are you?

And look at that, the ones who died were 100% innocent. Just as you are 100% guilty.

There's an elephant that must be acknowledged - the third parties and scum are working together.

There's no other explanation for all 5 of them dying on one night, with no redundant attacks.

This night was coordinated. There's no other explanation.

[Visor]

And look at that, the ones who died were 100% innocent. Just as you are 100% guilty.

There's an elephant that must be acknowledged - the third parties and scum are working together.

There's no other explanation for all 5 of them dying on one night, with no redundant attacks.

This night was coordinated. There's no other explanation.

And what does this have to do with me?

-----

Also, I am looking for a new partner.


The 'Kill' third party (well. sounds like Serial Killer to me) is probably not going to help someone they need dead, so that is unlikely. (Unless of course their goal is that everyone has to be without a pair like Jarremas game?). The bees/bear helmet fear guy, I wouldn't have a clue what side he was on. The blasphemer people sound like mafia to me.

[Montmorency]

:daisy:

And what have you got to say for yourself, besides that? This is LYLO. There's simply no way you aren't scum. You're too aloof not to be.

[Visor]

:daisy:

And what have you got to say for yourself, besides that? This is LYLO. There's simply no way you aren't scum. You're too aloof not to be.

There are 15 players. 14 if you don't count Jolt. Let's assume 4 kills and 4 scumbags? then we have at worst case, if we lynch a townie today, 5:4 by the next day phase. That would be lylo. If the killers don't kill each other accidentally at least once, I would be surprised (of course we can't rely on that happening). Today is not lylo, just damned important.

Aloof? The Loot took up a bit of my mafia time, and as that was in a lylo/near lylo situation, I gave that priority. Right now I have had about 4 hours sleep and am quite tired, of course I'm going to be out of it.

If I was going to lynch someone today, it would be Askthepizzaguy or Andres.

[Montmorency]

If the killers don't kill each other accidentally at least once, I would be surprised (of course we can't rely on that happening). Today is not lylo, just damned important.

There are up to 7 3rd-party and scum at the moment, and at least 5 - assuming the best. Not all the killers are Mafia. And as I pointed out, they all seem to be cooperating. They will not accidentally kill each other from now on...

If we want town, and not another party, to win, then this must be the LYLO.

You've been aloof the whole while. Andres has been aloof as well, and could also be a killer, but...

[Visor]

There are up to 7 3rd-party and scum at the moment, and at least 5 - assuming the best. Not all the killers are Mafia. And as I pointed out, they all seem to be cooperating. They will not accidentally kill each other from now on...

If we want town, and not another party, to win, then this must be the LYLO.

You've been aloof the whole while. Andres has been aloof as well, and could also be a killer, but...
Alright, I'll go with your assumptions on the killers.

I haven't been aloof the whole time, (of course this is an opinion based thing, so whatever). I'm not interested in debating my aloof levels. If you think I'm scum, give me a better reason then aloof with no examples.

Now, we have 14 people to lynch. Who are your suspects in that list?

Andres
Askthepizzaguy
Autolycus
Buddhafish
Captain Blackadder
Choxorn
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
Ishmael
Jarema
Jolt
Lazy McCrow
Montmorency
Visorslash
Xenoneb

For reference (discount Jolt possibly). I'm not including myself, as I know I'm not scum, so 13 people. From that, I can cut down who I think is town. Monty, could either be the 'kill' third party, or town. Andres is not being as active as his townie self, so I'm somewhat suspicious of that, especially at this stage. If he has been active behind the scenes, now is time to bring it to light. Askthepizzaguy is based of asking TinCow to kill him, and some of his later posts (voting GH for no reason, at that stage), autolycus always becomes a suspect at this stage, if he's alive, and he isn't particularly active, so he is also on the list. Buddhafish, is also low on participation, but I can chalk that up to him hosting his large game at CFC, however, the level of activity IS similar to Zack Mafia IV, and if I don't hear anything convincing from him, he will be one of my top suspects. Captain Blackadder, very little to say on that side. Choxorn, I'm not really getting a scum vibe from. AA, on the fence. GH, sidling towards nontown aligned, just from posts. Ishamel, same as GH. Jarema, seems to be acting like town (unlike the loot anyway). Jolt, well Jolt. Lazy I haven't played with in a while, on the fence. Monty, probably town. Visor, town. Xeno, possible scum.

List of suspects (the latest list):
Andres, auto, Buddha, Ishamel, GH, Xeno, Lazy

At this stage anyway. Thoughts on that Monty/whoever else?

[Montmorency]

Assuming the non-town are cooperating, they shouldn't have to vote each other at this point. I think we can rule one of GH and Xenon out based on this.

CB looking for a partner is slightly town.

Unvote; Vote: Andres

He's disappeared all of a sudden. We know he's around, though.

[Visor]

Partner: Askthepizzaguy

[GeneralHankerchief]

My issue with Xenoneb is that he has precisely three posts, none of which have come since the game actually started, and yet he's not even on khaan's WoG radar. Clearly, there's something going on behind the scenes with him.

[Montmorency]

Khaan's rules are:
WOKs(Wrath of Khaan) will occur if a person does not vote 3 rounds in a row

Or four missed total. There will not be any further exception to this. It wouldn't be fair to us as players. No seasoned host would betray us thus.

Jolt and Xenon will be WoKed today. If they really are not, well, that will be the prompt for lynches and vigs.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Just spoke with khaan, he's about to come in and say leaving Xeno off the WoK list was an oversight.

Unvote: Xenoneb

[seireikhaan]

My apologies, simply error on my part missing xenoneb. He will suffer wrath of khaan as well as Jolt if he does not vote.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay, let's look at the list.


Andres, auto, Buddha, Ishamel, GH, Xeno, Lazy

Andres hasn't posted anywhere since the 19th. I think RL's getting the better of him right now.

autolycus hasn't posted in this thread since his initial sign-up, he's another one you might have to add to the WoK list issaikhaan :tongue:

Buddha, I'll defer to you guys on, we'll leave him be with his game for now.

I'm not including myself obviously, and Xeno's most likely WoGbait, so we're leaving him off too.

This takes us down to Ishmael and LazyMcCrow.

Let's take a look at Ishmael's most recent post:


Montmorency has basically said it all, so I'll just confirm all this - Monty, Double A, Arjos and I attacked TinCow, and I think it's pretty evident from the write-up that it wasn't one of the 'scum' kills (there seems to be two SKs and a mafia group operating, judging by the write-ups). The same is true for the group that killed Zack. I stand by my list of probable townies earlier, and as Montmorency mentioned particularly Makrell, who contacted three of us (but not me :no:) trying to protect Pizza, which seems a fairly legitimate townie move considering the likelihood that he would be attacked.

As today's writeup showed, there are (most likely) two mafia groups, but there were also two separate groups of two attackers in the N1 writeup (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142389-The-House-of-Origin-IN-PLAY&p=2053490199&viewfull=1#post2053490199) as well:


Crouching, I paused behind a marble pillar. My partner in crime was waiting in the far corner, hidden by an altar. This blasphemer dared to visit such a holy site! I can’t have been surprised, I guess. This lot were desecrating the god’s sacred grounds already. We knew we had to make this quick, get in and out. Even if they were just the court’s royal poet, they would be armed and trained. No, we would wait for him to separate just a bit from his partner. There! He paused, letting the other go farther ahead, while he examined a sculpture of Hadan, God of War. Fitting, really. My partner raised his hand, giving the signal. I pulled a knife from my belt and curled around the pillar. With well-practiced aim, I let it fly, and it struck his knee, sending him buckling down. In a flash, my partner was behind the blasphemer, Atheotes, holding him in a knelt position. A quick flash of silver and the sound of freshly cut flesh was all the indication I needed that he’d slit his throat. We heard the drawing of a sword from sheath from Atheotes’ partner, who had noticed our escapades, and we bolted out of the temple before any unnecessary risk could be incurred.


I have to say, this was a pleasant surprise. I hadn’t expected to find a fully working bath down here. Must be a drainage system that collects the water for the pool. Either way, I’m not one to complain about small miracles. I walked to the edge and dipped a finger in the water to see how the temperature was. Not surprisingly, it was pretty cold. Hmm. Well, I’m not going to catch cold if I just take a few minutes, surely.

“JoanK, what is this?” a voice called from behind me. I turned around, and saw two members of the retinue I was unfamiliar with. “It looks like you’ve found quite the prize!”

“Indeed, I was surprised myself to find this in such good condition. Very strange, don’t you think?”

The two walked up and one put a hand on my shoulder. “Yes, it is in very good condition. Don’t you feel we should leave it like that?” he said.

“Well, of course, but I’m sure it won’t hurt too much to clean ourselves real quick, right?”

I barely saw the flash of silver as he withdrew a gleaming, curved dagger and swiped at me. I managed to stumble my way backwards just in time, barely avoiding a gash. However, in my haste, I tripped over my feet and fell straight backwards into the pool. I sputtered as I found it deeper than I’d first thought.
“DEFILER!” The attacker screamed at me. “YOU DARE SPILL BLOOD IN THIS SACRED FOUNTAIN?” What? They were the ones who attacked me! It was then I heard the splash behind me, and before I could turn, I felt two swords run clean through my chest. There were more, waiting in the pool this whole time? The wound…. Everything… so cold. I felt myself drifting into the darkness, and letting my face fall into the cold abyss.

Frankly, this is enough for me.

Vote: Ishmael

[Askthepizzaguy]

I was blocked again last night, this time by someone who put me to sleep.

No bees.

You know, I'm just a vanilla townie. You can keep blocking me all you like, it's a waste of your time. I joined a failed protection group last night which failed due to me and Double A.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Andres is not as inactive as he appears.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Also, Partner: Andres as promised.

No Visorslash, you and I are usually colluding or engaged in an epic duel. I need my personal space, you see.

[Ishmael]

Let's take a look at Ishmael's most recent post:


As today's writeup showed, there are (most likely) two mafia groups, but there were also two separate groups of two attackers in the N1 writeup (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142389-The-House-of-Origin-IN-PLAY&p=2053490199&viewfull=1#post2053490199) as well:

Frankly, this is enough for me.

Vote: Ishmael

You will note if you look carefully at the write-up that you quoted, that there were at least four attackers in the attack on JoanK. Now this doesn't necessarily mean that there were no mafia in the group, but it's pretty evident that it wasn't an all-mafia group, which is the point I was making.

[Choxorn]

I need a partner, preferably someone who can tell me what the hell is going on.

Visor?

[Jarema]

I need a partner, please

I do not know what is going on or have any medicines, unfortunately

Visor? Captain? General?
King? Emperor? ANYONE?

[Andres]

Partner : Askthepizzaguy

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have no idea what's going on.

Actually, that's not true. I am lying. I have a fantastic idea of what's going on.

But, Pizza is going to sit and level with the whole lot of you: It's not a rosy picture.

There's bad things a-happening. Pizza has come up with nothing but epic failure in every single one of Khaan's games that he's ever played, in memory. Each failure more spectacular than the last.

Though, Chicago Soiree was in a class of its own.

I have a vague idea of what's happening, but none of it is helpful to me, in fact, knowing what's happening only makes things more discouraging.

I shall spare you the details. The bottom line: I am even more useless than a townie who has no idea what's happening.

I am a frustrated and lonely pizza.

I have a vote.

Point me at a thing that needs to die. I shall vote for it.

Pray, for your sake, that thing is guilty.

[Andres]

Andres is not as inactive as he appears.

That's a lie.

[Askthepizzaguy]

That's a lie.

Well, you are less inactive than you appear. Therefore, you are by definition, not "as" inactive as you appear.

[Makrell]

Damn. All I can say is I'm incredibly sorry.
this saddebs me AA

[LazyMcCrow]

vote: Double A Reason being, he is clearly doing something else when he is letting people down.

[Visor]

Unpartner; partner: Choxorn

[Andres]

Vote : Ishmael

[Captain Blackadder]

Partner: General Hankerchief

Yes my General.

Vote:LazyMcCrow

[Andres]

1)
:inquisitive:

What are you talking about? A protection?

A.


Snapping up Pizza like that...

Look, we have three fine men (plus Double AA the possible traitor) prepared to die tonight. We are next in the killers' LoS, and we want to give them a slap before we go down.

Are you prepared, or are you anti-town?

2)
And who do you intend to kill?

A.


A vig. Protection is temporary. Death is permanent (for our purposes).

3)
So, you're suggesting to vig more than 1/3d of the playerfield?

On what basis?

And on what basis do you consider the other players not naughty?

A.


We have our naughty list. There are some (such as yourself) I'd like to include, but I'll keep it lean:

CB
Autolycus
Buddhafish
Doube A
Lazy McCrow

One of these must be lynched. Two need to die tonight. That's right, two. We ought to have enough prepared to stand and be counted to at least make the attempt.

I don't have great confidence in your trustiness, or your adherence to the Townie creed, but tell me now - do you count yourself among the dead and doomed?



Unvote ; Vote : Montmorency

I have no idea what information you gathered or how you gathered it, but trying to force me with not so veiled threats to help vig killing 5 players rubs me the wrong way.

[Montmorency]

Threaten you? I invited you. 5 players? Only one. If possible, two.

This is the last call for group actions. I intend to vig tonight - that's all in the clear. I need help. If you are town, stand and be counted. This is our last opportunity to hit the killers, as they'll control the lynch by tomorrow.

If you'd like to lynch me for organizing the final vig of the game, then you're flat-out scum: plain and simple.

[Montmorency]

Through and through.

This game has been a converse-opposite Buffy 2. Heh.

[Ishmael]

I'm going to do a complete backflip from my 'townie list' the other day and vote: Lazy McCrow

First off, the obligatory summary of vote posts:


and Vote: Arjos for laughing


vote: Ishmael: like that


I didn't do it specifically to show you anything, although if you want your vote to count you should do it properly. I'm voting Ishmael again today too. I think he is a scum - or at least uses the word 'kill' alot. And he claimed you as his scum buddy day one, and I think he has the stones to try something so cheeky. And now there are snakes and bees as well as more vig killers than are probably sensible. Perhaps some more protection would be a better option?
vote: Ishamel


I agree. In the write-up it says that TinCow was some doddery old scholar - albeit apparently a vengeful vigilante one. Something quite zesty and zealous about Monty's interrogation.

vote: Montmorency


vote: Double A Reason being, he is clearly doing something else when he is letting people down.

I won't read too much into these - Lazy seems to be going for easy votes throughout, but I'm guilty of that myself more often than not. Consider this supporting evidence.

...in fact, now that I write this I don't actually have that much by way of evidence, except for a gut feeling and the fact that we have no idea what he's been up to this whole time. So, Lazy McCrow, what have you been doing this whole time? Vigging, protecting, moping around because you partner died N1...?

[autolycus]

Why am I not on the WOG list, because although I haven't been voting like I should, (sorry about that), I have been active at night. I am Heshin, the named character that has showed up the last few nights, (although I didn't have a name in my PM, I'm just a generic townie). My partner claims to be a townie power role that makes the two of us function as a full set of four (see our protection of TinCow and our kill of White_Eyes). He's either that or scum, but for the moment, I trust him, since we can stick us on protection duty. On that note, I will take suggestions as to who we should attack or protect tonight.

We have three problematic roles, for sure, as far as I can see: Kill man, the religious zealot, and whatever caused Hashell's partner to go bonkers, which might mean Hashell is scum, might mean his partner is scum, and might mean a third person with control powers.

Vote: Montmorency While his attacker doesn't seem to be vanilla (solo who seemed to have a chance), he also seems to be unvanilla (his protectors didn't seem to succeed, it seems to have been his own skill that enabled his survival)

[Andres]

Threaten you? I invited you.

You made it clear you consider me untrustworthy and that you consider anyone not willing to cooperate as scummy. You're also organising vig squads. As I said: not so very well veiled threats.



5 players? Only one. If possible, two.


As if you plan to stop after next night.


This is the last call for group actions. I intend to vig tonight - that's all in the clear. I need help. If you are town, stand and be counted. This is our last opportunity to hit the killers, as they'll control the lynch by tomorrow.




If you'd like to lynch me for organizing the final vig of the game, then you're flat-out scum: plain and simple.


Instilling fear in the town instead of giving outlined cases and reasons.

"Work with me or you're doomed/scum."

[Riedquat]

Hahaha.... to many seems autolycus!

One thing, Atpg, while i have my suspicion on Ishmael I fail to see how the attack on joank has something to do with him.

Who was the original partner of Arjos?

[LazyMcCrow]

I'm going to do a complete backflip from my 'townie list' the other day and vote: Lazy McCrow

So, Lazy McCrow, what have you been doing this whole time? Vigging, protecting, moping around because you partner died N1...?

See my partner, autolycus' post above. I am Elsehan, Royal Master of Arms. I am able to kill or protect with just the help of my partner with 100% success. N1 my effort to protect TinCow was not successful, because my original partner Thermal did not show up for the game at all. Me and auto successfully protected TinCow N2 and last night we killed WhiteEyes...poosibly a mistake. However - as my erstwhile companion pointed out - more likely to hit scum next time! Which of course I am more than willing to do in order to convince you that I speak the truth. I shall hope not to be lynched, and indeed for some protection of course, but given the shoddy attempts by most of you at protecting so far, I won't expect it. I'd be interested to hear who you think I should demonstrate my legendary swordsmanship on, and whether you'd like to see me and auto vig or protect.

[Ishmael]

Either you're incredibly gutsy scum, or you're telling the truth. I'm inclined to believe the latter.

unvote, vote: Andres

Next on the 'I've got this hunch' list.

[autolycus]

Just confirming for you all that LazyMCCrow is indeed my partner :)

[Andres]

Either you're incredibly gutsy scum, or you're telling the truth. I'm inclined to believe the latter.

unvote, vote: Andres

Next on the 'I've got this hunch' list.

Your hunch is wrong. But don't let that stop you from voting me over the bloodthirsty Montmorency who asks help killing 5 players at night because they... well, because otherwise you're either scum or doomed.

[Montmorency]

I must step in for a moment, if only to reply to Andres: I fully expect to be killed tonight, should I survive the lynch. I just want to kill scum - you want to prevent that. You've said as much.

Your lawyerly vituperation can't mask the fact that you are anti-town.

"Bloodthirsty": And the Mafia are peace-loving citizens of the United Scum Republic of Gameroom, right?

[Andres]

I don't want to prevent the killing of scum, but I do want to prevent scum ordering townies to do their dirty work and cause their own doom.

Either you tell us why exactly we need to kill those people or you're just trying to pull us over to do something against our own interest by making us scared.

"Kill X or you'll lose this game" simply doesn't sound very convincing. Why is X considered scum?

[Visor]

Vote: Andres

Already stated reasons.

[Andres]

Vote: Andres

Already stated reasons.

I haven't been very active behind the scenes and I haven't been active in the thread neither. That is correct. Why that should be a reason to vote me, goes beyond me, really.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Unvote: Ishmael
Vote: ATPG

I'm not sure why you're pushing the Andres thing so hard.

[Andres]

I'm assuming that's going on behind the scenes?

There's not much to defend against if I don't even know what the case against me is.

So far, people have blamed me for 1) not blindly following Montmorency and asking critical questions; 2) not being active enough.

As for 1), well, meh. And for 2), also meh.

[Choxorn]

Partner: Visorslash

Vote: Ishmael

[Double A]

It just reoccured to me that I need a partner. Anyone left?

[Riedquat]

Unvote: Ishmael
Vote: ATPG

I'm not sure why you're pushing the Andres thing so hard.


I'm assuming that's going on behind the scenes?

+1 to this...

What call my attention is Andres and Atpg are choosing each other as partners, whats the point if Atpg is pushing for the lynch of Andres? I'm dead confused here. Or is the other way around? He is defending Andres? Defending him of what?

[Montmorency]

"Kill X or you'll lose this game" simply doesn't sound very convincing.

I never said that. I said I want to strike the scum a blow before we lose, as they will control the lynch tomorrow.

Guess what, Andres? I can't really cause harm if all townies rally to me - because only scum will be left!

15 now, -3 for the lynch and WoKs. Then what, another 4 or 5 anti-town kills, bringing it to 8 or 7. If there are only 8 or 7, then that's game over - town can't win if it is outnumbered.

The least we can do is vig to kill one of them, as a revenge maneuver.

Why are you so against their vigs, huh Andres? I don't see you offering alternatives! Is it perhaps because the names I listed are part of the scum consortium? This isn't righteous indignation, Andres, but a pretense and a red herring.



Askthepizzaguy: What do you have to say about Andres?

[Jarema]

vote: Andres seems to be good course of action

[Riedquat]

Guess what, Andres? I can't really cause harm if all townies rally to me - because only scum will be left!

I agree with the first part but for the second...

[Montmorency]

To rephrase: if all the townies come to one side of the room, everyone left on the other side will be scum - thus making successful vigs a near-certainty. That's the meaning.

[GeneralHankerchief]

To rephrase: if all the townies come to one side of the room, everyone left on the other side will be scum - thus making successful vigs a near-certainty. That's the meaning.

I really doubt that the game will be this easy to "solve".

[Montmorency]

I really doubt that the game will be this easy to "solve".

These words, they are not mine! I want to kill one scumbag, maybe even two, tonight. If that happens, then maybe, just maybe, we'll have a chance in the lynch.

I'm not going to guarantee that. I'd never be able tot. I will, however, guarantee that scum will die if vigs are prosecuted tonight. And hey, guys, you can even deliberate as to the targets. Town still has at least that much strength left! I'm just here to provide sensible targets and try to ensure that you don't hit players that were publicly cleared.

[Riedquat]

I'm just here to provide sensible targets and try to ensure that you don't hit players that were publicly cleared.

Like who? Sorry, but I fail to see them!

[LazyMcCrow]

exactly. Who in your opinion is 'definitely' scum Monty?

[Montmorency]

How about my opinions on who very likely isn't scum, at this very moment, ranging from cleared by writeups to recent reveals:

Lazy Crow
Autolycus
GH
Visorslash
Ishmael
Montmorency
ATPG

Does this help?

[Riedquat]

Not to me! I'm dead thanks to those cleared innocents, or at least part some of them :rolleyes:

[Buddhafish]

Sorry about the inactivity. Just got my large started over at CFC.

I don't know what it is, but Vote: Monty seems a good vote for today.

I too am looking for a partner. Jarema, how bout it? Partner: Jarema

[Andres]

How about my opinions on who very likely isn't scum, at this very moment, ranging from cleared by writeups to recent reveals:

Lazy Crow
Autolycus
GH
Visorslash
Ishmael
Montmorency
ATPG

Does this help?

Who got cleared by what write-up?

[Montmorency]

Alright, I'll line it up again:

Ishmael and I were in the writeups for the Tincow (viggers) and Makrell (protectors) attacks. Pizza was on the latter, for that matter. This is all in the writeups, you may check for yourself. These three are the only ones cleared without a doubt.

Auto and Crow revealed Crow to be a town power role. It's a very easy thing to test out.

Visorslash, by dint of a slip he made, strikes me as town, and is very cooperative.

GH generally has a townie aura and his private reveal only augments it.

Ok?

[White_eyes:D]

Monty gets a good deal of blame for getting that Pro-town vig group wiped out, but that was nothing compared to LazyCrow and Autolycus getting TinCow lynched.:stare:

TinCow was clearly innocent but they didn't even try and help save him...even killing me for revealing my night action and trying to help him.:sweatdrop:

Are you guys sure they are REALLY town? They picked the perfect time to reveal when town only has one shot left.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Andres invited me to be his partner on the 21st, even though he was supposedly inactive elsewhere.

I have the PM and the exact time code. I can even post its contents if you like.

I am not saying he's scum. I'm saying my definition of inactive doesn't include PM activity.

I think he's not scum. But I am also correcting the record: He wasn't inactive, by my definition.

I have no leads on scum and I'm perfectly happy to be the alternate lynch. It might free me from other responsibilities I am clearly unequipped to manage.

[LazyMcCrow]

Monty gets a good deal of blame for getting that Pro-town vig group wiped out, but that was nothing compared to LazyCrow and Autolycus getting TinCow lynched.:stare:

TinCow was clearly innocent but they didn't even try and help save him...even killing me for revealing my night action and trying to help him.:sweatdrop:

Are you guys sure they are REALLY town? They picked the perfect time to reveal when town only has one shot left.

Meh. I thought TinCow was town and revealed to him. I didn't have any evidence he was town and plenty of people have been gunning after him since day one which was why I thought he'd make a good protectee. Sorry we made a bad choice hitting you last night. It was your vote for edse and edse's vote for you that was the only lead.

[White_eyes:D]

It was your vote for edse and edse's vote for you that was the only lead.

THAT WAS IT????!!!.....Monty's theory was more scum hunting worthy and edse didn't even explain his vote, I did.:wall:

If you and Auto really are town, we deserve to lose with such stellar scum-hunting skills....good call on TinCow just horrible follow-up for everything after.:laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Did I miss the memo.

Was Tincow scum, and if so, how was it known?

[White_eyes:D]

Also we need to know who protected tincow, or how he survived, he could be mafia godfather or SK or doctor or something other powerrole, as he was clearly attacked by four people, which would mean it should be 100% kill if i understood the rules correctly. This was the post that got it all started.

Sad because both Auto and LazyCrow didn't come forward with TinCow's innocence, with that protect they did.:juggle:

Edit: Or they were spooked and thought they would be lynched if they did.

[seireikhaan]

20-ish minutes, y'all.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Partner: Captain Blackadder

[seireikhaan]

Fin.

[Montmorency]

Well, it is done then. As all townies go to check their inboxes, I ask that they forgive some of my less towardly displays.

Good luck.

[seireikhaan]

It seemed my followers were developing rifts faster than we could close them up. When we started up again, another fight broke out, this time between a zealous Montmorency and the elder diplomat, Andres. It seemed to be a debate over the value of caution versus aggressiveness. Judging by the final record showed to me by the scribe as we finished up, aggression was what won out, as Andres was led to me on his knees. The graying man glared insolently at me as I accepted my sword.

"Why, in my day, we didn't let these sorts of things happen! Your great, great, great, granddaddy would have just imprisoned his entire retinue and replaced the lot of them! Why, I should know! I was imprisoned in an icy fortress, which I was forced to walk to while carrying my chains! And I was given nothing more than a piece of leather to chew on for food! Why-" I had to stop him! I swung my blade with strength I didn't know I had and lopped his head off in a clean strike. Phew. That was too close. Oh... oh dear. Maybe not. It seemed I was too late. It seemed that Xenoneb and Jolt had both suffered a catastrophic case of death from Andres' ramblings, laying silently upon the ground, blood pouring from their eyes and ears.

"Er..." I started, pointedly ignoring the other two bodies. "Excellent work, my loyal retinue! Now, let us discover ourselves an exit! I am sure we are close! Yes, quite close indeed!"




Andres 4 (Monty, Ishmael, Visorslash, Jarema)
Montmorency 3 (Andres, Autolycus, Buddhafish)
ATPG 1 (GH
Double A 1 (Lazy McCrow)
Lazy McCrow1 (Captain Blackadder
Ishmael 1 (Choxorn)


Xenoneb and Jolt suffered Wrath of Khaan.


Visorslash partner Choxorn
Choxorn partner Visorslash
Pizza partner Andres
Andres partner Pizza
Captain Blackadder partner GH
GH partner Captain Blackadder
Buddhafish partner Jarema

Visorslash and Choxorn are now partners.
Captain Blackadder and GeneralHankerchief are now partners.


IT IS NOW NIGHT 4.

You have 24 hours.



Alive:

Askthepizzaguy
Autolycus
Buddhafish
Captain Blackadder
Choxorn
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
Ishmael
Jarema
Lazy McCrow
Montmorency
Visorslash

Lynched:

NinjaCow (D1)
God Emperor (D2)
TinCow (D3)
Andres (D4)

Killed:

Atheotes (N1)
JoanK (N1)
Arjos (N2)
Bsmith (N2)
Ironside (N2)
Zack (N2)
Chaotix (N3)
Edse (N3)
Makrell (N3)
Riedquat (N3)
White Eyes (N3)

Attacked:

Ishmael (N1)
Tincow (N2)

Wrath of Khaan:

Kagemusha (D3)
Xenoneb (D4)
Jolt (D4)

[Askthepizzaguy]

So, now what do I do?

Shall I resume thumb-twiddling?

Anyone have any use for an unpartnered person.

[Jarema]

I hope my partnership with Buddha is valid, I had no time to confirm it

[Andres]

It seemed that Xenoneb and Jolt had both suffered a catastrophic case of death from Andres' ramblings, laying silently upon the ground, blood pouring from their eyes and ears.

I do not ramble :mean:

I describe the glorious past in a most eloquent and passionate way, taking my audience on a magnificent journey to days gone by :snobby:

[seireikhaan]

Writeups in progress.

[seireikhaan]

I rummaged through my belongings once more after the group adjourned. Finally. Such long meetings, so boring. They just did the same thing over and over again, cowering in fear as they picked out the one they feared most of all. I can cure this! Such joy they were missing out on! I threw my bear pelt over my shoulders, reveling for a moment in the embrace. I took off at a spring, in glee at the feeling of absolute freedom.

End it.

I reeled, pulling up to a stop. What? Who?

End it now.

I looked around, spinning on the spot. There was nobody here! But voices, still they came!

It is hopeless. End it now.

The voices, they echoed like a chorus, smooth, but deep. Suddenly, I could feel it again. The despair… the knowledge of the unmovable object of destiny sitting obstinately in my path, blocking my way. I could never budge it. I slowly sat down, putting my head into my knees.

End it. Embrace oblivion.

I could hear a buzzing again. Oh no… the bees. Again? They were back to torment me again? Stop it… stop it…

You can stop it.

Wait. No. Suddenly, it was as though a fog lifted. The pit in my stomach vanished as the swarm descended upon me. I had defeated this! I did not fear! There was nothing to fear, not death, not bees, not bears!

NO! END IT!

I grinned maniacally. No. No, I would not end it. There was no fear. There was no pain. Others had to be shown the path. As though sensing my renewed confidence, the swarm dispersed. I took off at a sprint. I do not know what foul force wished me despair, but I was a triumphant prophet! I would never be brought down! I wheeled around a corner, still reveling in my liberation. I saw Ishmael coming down to me at a slow pace. His eyes went wide, in apparent shock at my appearance. I sprinted to him, and before he could respond, I smashed his jaw with my fist. My momentum carried me past, forcing me to wheel around, spinning on a heel. Ishmael seemed to shake off his shock, and withdrew a sword to me and readied a combat stance. Haha! A good man! He raised his sword high and rushed to me. I had done my job! To overcome a sight as fearsome as myself, surely he deserved to live for now and spread the word! Cackling at the top of my lungs, I took off down the hallway, knowing he would never catch me.






Such a grand temple. That the large fountain at the center of this magnificent structure still ran with water was surely some kind of miracle of the gods. I was resting for a moment, sitting on the edge, contemplating how such a feat was achieved. I was running my fingers through the pool of water. Suddenly, the water’s texture changed. It became thicker. Then, a dark crimson began to seep from below, overtaking the clear blue. The water… was becoming blood. I recoiled in shock. What devilry was this? The fountain suddenly erupted with pressure it hadn’t had, showering blood across me. I staggered and slipped, falling down on the slick floor. I gazed up in alarm when a loud splash came from the fountain, and two demonic figures erupted from the pool. Razor, pointed teeth grinned at me from under twisted, dark red faces. I screamed as I scrambled away in a mess from the two, who cackled madly as they stepped out from the pool. I ran to the nearest exit. I stopped, slipping and falling again as two more monsters turned the corner to stare me down, bestial creatures with bright shining, golden eyes and long, pointed claws.

They chuckled as well when I scrambled upright again, trying to reach the next exit. I reached the doorway, only to be flattened as three more of the devils stood in the hallway that turned out from the door. They gazed down at me with those unnatural eyes, grinning widely, readying enormous curved blades in their hands. I tried to scramble backwards, but felt my shoulders bump into something. I looked up and felt blood droplets falling onto my face as the demons from the fountain cackled down at me. The seven swayed their hips and began to sing a jaunty, haunting tune.

“Tick tock, tick tock, Buddhafish,” the demons sang. “Don’t look at us with so much shock, for now the time’s run out on your clock. Would you like the sword, or perhaps the hemlock?”

“I… I…” I was paralyzed. What had we awoken here?

“You came here seeking treasure, seeking god. You came here seeking divinity, and for that we probably should applaud. But here’s the trick, our real treat. You’ve been undone by your own conceit. Here’s the real truth of our beauty- you wanted god, here’s your deity! So don’t be so anxious, just embrace the madness!”

Still paralyzed, I couldn’t even close my eyes as the demons raised their weapons high. Finally, mercifully, the world went dark.






Time was short. The hour of destiny was at hand. I could see from Heshin’s face that he could feel it as well as we traversed the labyrinth. We were currently in the first thing I’d seen yet resembling a residential district. The walls of marble had been carved out into rectangular structures, with vacant rectangles indicating that no actual permanent doors. I was positive that he had come this way… but if the houses had passageways going further in, we would only end up in a deeper maze than we already were in. I sighed. Perhaps we were on the wrong track… Maybe it was the left. Wait! I saw a flash of movement from one of the doorways. Yes!
“There!” I whispered, pointing out our target. Heshin nodded.

“I saw it as well. Dive in?” He asked.

“Follow my lead,” I took off at a pace, withdrawing my sword. I put my back up to the wall, just outside the doorway. I could hear shuffling inside. I gave Heshin a look to indicate I was going in. I turned on a heel sword at attention, ready to charge. Only to be halted…
By sheer surprise. Captain Blackadder was inside, with a large color palette. The far wall was no longer pristine white, but a menagerie of colors, most prominently red. He looked back at us in surprise of his own.

“Oh. Hello.” He gestured to the incomplete mural. “Do you like it?” He asked. I kept my blade at the ready. This was… not right. I would ordinarily hesitate to strike down an artist, but there was something unsettling about this whole scenario. The secrecy, the bright colors. No, I had a mission. Destiny, it was still at hand. I ignored his query.

“Captain Blackadder, for the crime of treason, I sentence you to death.” I said calmly. “Now be still, and accept divine justice.” I raised my sword high and moved forward on a left-leaning arc, while Heshin moved opposite me, to prevent an escape. Captain Blackadder, in either shock or submission, did not move from the spot, and I readied a clean cut through his neck.






Most excellent! Clearly we had made great progress! Even though I had not yet discovered a path leading out of the labyrinth, I returned to find most of my retinue intact. Two were missing, but that was a marked improvement. And I had begun doubting my divine powers... What silliness. Still, it seemed we were not yet rid of the assassins, if two more people were missing. Perhaps there were but one or two more still lurking in the shadows? Either way, I offered my most official salutations to my retinue before handing things off to the scribe to record once more.


IT IS NOW Day 5.

You have 25 hours.



Feedback will be out asap.

Alive:

Askthepizzaguy
Autolycus
Choxorn
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
Ishmael
Jarema
Lazy McCrow
Montmorency
Visorslash

Lynched:

NinjaCow (D1)
God Emperor (D2)
TinCow (D3)
Andres (D4)

Killed:

Atheotes (N1)
JoanK (N1)
Arjos (N2)
Bsmith (N2)
Ironside (N2)
Zack (N2)
Chaotix (N3)
Edse (N3)
Makrell (N3)
Riedquat (N3)
White Eyes (N3)
Buddhafish (N4)
Captain Blackadder (N4)

Attacked:

Ishmael (N1)
Tincow (N2)
Ishmael (N4)

Wrath of Khaan:

Kagemusha (D3)
Xenoneb (D4)
Jolt (D4)

[Montmorency]

Buddhafish was indeed scum. We can see that he attacked Ishmael. I think it likely that he was the one who killed Makrell on N3.

There must be more, however. They played along with the vig. We do know, however, that auto and Crow killed CB.

The killers missing would be:

1. Chaotix' killer on N3.
2. My attacker on N3.
3. Edse's killer on N3.
4. Riedquat's killer on N3.

Assuming Andres and CB were baddies, we should have two of these to deal with.

Jarema is an interesting case. He knew nothing of the group vig. If he were scum, he would have had no reason not to kill. On the other hand, if I was correct and the Mafia were working with the 3rd parties, then he would have heard of it. I say to leave him be for now. He can be put to work tonight. Tonight, we should only have protection groups operating - no more vigs unless in extraordinary circumstances.

As for whom to lynch, well, that Ishmael was attacked is further evidence in his favor.

One more note: only 7 showed up at the vig. GH, do you have any feedback on that impairment?

I suppose the only real candidates for today are Double A and Choxorn. The rest have shown themselves to be valuable, and Jarema needs to have a chance to prove himself.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Inconclusive. I was there but my presence didn't make or break the attempt.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote: Choxorn

Going to bed now, will look into things more in the morning. But I have a really bad feeling about this.

[Jarema]

vote: Choxorn. I really have no idea what is happening in this game. When it comes to games without reveal at death, I am like a child in a mist. I hoped I will overcome this by working closely with my partner, but it seems I am doomed to be alone.
If someone has use for a lone townie, I can help

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ah.

In case people are wondering, I was apparently the absentee in the 8 person party boat.

AGAIN.

It's all part of my brilliant mafia strategy of announcing that I'm just not going to ever really participate in your little groups, and then laugh about it.

You wish you had a plan as brilliant as this.

Now let me vote: GH again for no reason.

[LazyMcCrow]

Buddhafish was indeed scum. We can see that he attacked Ishmael. I think it likely that he was the one who killed Makrell on N3.

There must be more, however. They played along with the vig. We do know, however, that auto and Crow killed CB.

The killers missing would be:

1. Chaotix' killer on N3.
2. My attacker on N3.
3. Edse's killer on N3.
4. Riedquat's killer on N3.

Assuming Andres and CB were baddies, we should have two of these to deal with.

Jarema is an interesting case. He knew nothing of the group vig. If he were scum, he would have had no reason not to kill. On the other hand, if I was correct and the Mafia were working with the 3rd parties, then he would have heard of it. I say to leave him be for now. He can be put to work tonight. Tonight, we should only have protection groups operating - no more vigs unless in extraordinary circumstances.

As for whom to lynch, well, that Ishmael was attacked is further evidence in his favor.

One more note: only 7 showed up at the vig. GH, do you have any feedback on that impairment?

I suppose the only real candidates for today are Double A and Choxorn. The rest have shown themselves to be valuable, and Jarema needs to have a chance to prove himself.

7 screaming demons with claws and teeth? Doing a vig kill? Are you mental? Explain the description in the write-up plz Monty

EDIT: scratch that - sheesh I feel like Don Quixote

[Askthepizzaguy]

I need some stock footage of various supervillains cackling.

If I had some, it would be the soundtrack that accompanies me wherever I go.

So, whose group shall I fail to participate in tonight? Is anyone badly in need of assistance that will never come? Because I can totally do that.

[Askthepizzaguy]

How come I don't get to be a demon? I'm a thousand times more evil than they are.

Amateurs.

[Andres]

I'm getting bad vibes from GeneralHankerchief.


Inconclusive. I was there but my presence didn't make or break the attempt.

This sounds strange and I'd like to hear you elaborate on that.

[LazyMcCrow]

vote: Double A

[autolycus]

Montmorency, I have to say, I'm curious why both you and your partner seem to be kill-resistant?

[Visor]

I'm not going to vote today. I'm sorry, i'm not really coping at the moment. Sorry,

[Riedquat]

The killers missing would be:

1. Chaotix' killer on N3.
2. My attacker on N3.
3. Edse's killer on N3.
4. Riedquat's killer on N3.

Assuming Andres and CB were baddies, we should have two of these to deal with.

This is not entirely correct, for obvious reasons I can not tell you why but following your reasoning your looking for only one left. Look at your short list and tell yourself what is different! ;)

[edse]

This is not entirely correct, for obvious reasons I can't not tell you why but following your reasoning your looking for only one left. Look at your short list and tell yourself what is different! ;)

Yes we can!

[Riedquat]

Yes we can!

lol thanks! I'm not doing like working today either :P


Edit: Must be something in the air... I don't know what I'm talking about... Other not understanding me is more or less common thing, but not understanding myself isn't. :shrug:

[autolycus]

Buddhafish was indeed scum. We can see that he attacked Ishmael. I think it likely that he was the one who killed Makrell on N3.

How do we see that he attacked Ishmael? In fact, if he attacked Ishmael, I think he didn't kill Makrell, but rather killed Riedquat. The Ishmael attacker is about bees and fear, which matches Riedquat's killer. Makrell's killer is red text with an overwhelming drive to kill.

Going through the days:
Night 1: First introduction of the bee man. With Salat.
Atheotes Killed. 2 people, blasphemer focus
Ishmael attacked. 3 people, very strange, with Wheel of Time reference (possibly just due to Ishmael's name)
JoanK killed. 4 (3) people, blood spilled in fountain. Defiler, vig kill? (Tincow, Riedquat, Bsmith

Night 2:
TinCow attacked. 4 people (montmorency, Ishmael, Arjos, Double A?) protected by Lazy and I.
Bsmith killed. 1 person, blasphemer focus
Arjos killed. 2 people, seem to have killed before, bleeding them out, sounds like scum.
Zack killed. 5 people, seems to be vig kill. (Tincow, Riedquat, Bsmith, 2 others)
Snakes. Continuation of the bee man story? No Salat.
Ironside killed. 1 person, Red kill.

Night 3:
Montmorency attacked. Wierdo with Morningstar 3 people seem to be with Monty
Chaotix killed 1 person, blasphemer focus
Riedquat killed. Bee man? Fear focus But with Hashel this time. Strange.
Makrell killed. Red kill. 3 people with him.
Edse killed. Curved daggers also showed up in the Joan K kill
White-Eyes killed. Lazy and I

night 4
ishmael attacked. Fear Focus (Bear Pelt confirms it)
Buddhafish killed Creepiness. 7 people, apparently vig? Curved daggers.
Capt. Blackadder killed. Lazy and I


10 people documented acting.

Currently Alive
Askthepizzaguy : Apparently keeps missing orders.
Autolycus Active with Lazy
Choxorn
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
Ishmael paired with Monty. Survived fear attack, survived 3 person (that may just be failed vig)
Jarema
Lazy McCrow Active with Lazy
Montmorency paired with Ishmael Survived mace attack
Visorslash

Monty, who all was on the Buddhafish kill?

[autolycus]

More thoughts, sorry to text wall:
There was no red kill yesterday or blasphemer. Since 10 people acted last night, and atpg says he didn't do anything, we have confirmation that someone who died last night was active, almost certainly bear-skin man, probably buddhafish.
My current theory: All we have left is Edse's killer, who was also part of the Arjos kill, and buddhafish's weirdness was mostly about buddhafish.
Monty and Ishmael claim to have been with atpg trying to protect makrell that night, so they do seem pretty cleared.

That leaves: choxorn, double A, Jarema, GH and Visorslash.

Double A was on the TinCow attack, so he seems more likely to be innocent.

I'll vote: choxorn for the moment, but I'd like the others to tell me what they've been up to.

[LazyMcCrow]

Sounds good. Your wall of text was actually pretty concise!
unvote: Double A vote: Choxorn

[autolycus]

Ishmael, do you have an explanation for how you survived last night?
You've said Monty is townish 3rd party, which explains his survival of mace-man/ mace-man may have been solo townie, doomed to failure.
You haven't explained how you survived bear-pelt man, who previously had been an effective killer.

[GeneralHankerchief]

ATPG was in on the Buddhafish kill and even CC'd us all on his order. So I'm not really sure why he's claiming he didn't do anything at night.

[Riedquat]

You've said Monty is townish 3rd party, which explains his survival of mace-man/ mace-man may have been solo townie, doomed to failure.

:clown:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Unvote: Choxorn
Vote: ATPG

I'll be honest, ATPG with an ironclad alibi is when I least trust him.

These are khaan's games, khaan's games are never solvable by the brute-force approach as town. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure that the town faction has never won in any of his games. Furthermore, Pizza has continuously drawn attention to himself over the course of the game even when the focus was not on him. Look at his post history:


I was roleblocked by bees N1, for the record.

That is why Ishmael did not die N1. We were short on numbers because I did not show up, due to the horrible, horrible bees.

Out of nowhere.


I actually have no problem with continuing the theme.

Why not?

What are the odds TC is scum anyway.

Tincow, should I die tonight? You decide. I have no partner anymore and I'm asking absolutely NO-body for protection.

Decide someone else's fate! Please! This will be so fricking sweet.

Out of nowhere.


Nice.

For the record, because I have no partner, I did nothing N2.

I was obviously part of the failed kill on Ishmael N1.

If I die tonight, maybe that info will be useful, maybe it won't, I'll be too dead to really care.

Thanks for the game, gentlemens! :bow:

Continued emphasis on something (no partner) that nobody has brought up, ever.


Can someone explain to me why, out of four vigilante attacks/murders, none were aimed at me? I thought we were doing what Tincow wanted.

Hey, I did nothing last night, as I have no partner, was roleblocked N1, and no one else has bothered to ask me to do anything.

edit: five. Five things. Fear, surprise, really nice bright red uniforms, an almost fanatical devotion to the pope, and the soft cushions.

Out of nowhere.


I was blocked again last night, this time by someone who put me to sleep.

No bees.

You know, I'm just a vanilla townie. You can keep blocking me all you like, it's a waste of your time. I joined a failed protection group last night which failed due to me and Double A.

Out of nowhere.


So, now what do I do?

Shall I resume thumb-twiddling?

Anyone have any use for an unpartnered person.

Hey look, Pizza brings up that he doesn't have a partner.


Ah.

In case people are wondering, I was apparently the absentee in the 8 person party boat.

AGAIN.

It's all part of my brilliant mafia strategy of announcing that I'm just not going to ever really participate in your little groups, and then laugh about it.

You wish you had a plan as brilliant as this.

There were eight people supposed to show up for the kill on Buddhafish. All 8 people sent in orders. Pizza then comes out and says that he was the odd man out. No explanation for why or anything.

I'm not going to pretend that I know everything that's going on in this game, not even close. But I have a hunch. And it's a pretty strong one. I think Pizza's been taunting us this entire game. And I think he's the "bees" killer.

[Montmorency]

Players who sent confirmations for the Buddhafish vig last night: everyone but you two, Buddhafish, and Jarema. Jarema was not in on the kill.


You've said Monty is townish 3rd party, which explains his survival of mace-man/ mace-man may have been solo townie, doomed to failure.

Alright, here's the short story: I roleblocked Buddhafish. I was pretty sure he was scum, you see.


Vote: ATPG

Pizza has been acting very strange, yes. He dropped a few literal scumtells, but they may have been jokes. On the other hand, it seems JoanK was his partner, and the way he reacted to his death made him sound like a power role or scum. I know of the existence of two townie power roles (one now dead), so JoanK must have been scum. I think this may be the secret broken scum-pair we've discussed previously.

Vis-a-vis my own role: I used my roleblock on Pizza N1. It may be that the disruption, combined with the loss of his partner, is what led him to act so strangely. He was basically asking to be lynched. From there, I don't know what to conclude.

[autolycus]

Wait, you blocked Buddhafish last night. Are you able to both block and join vig teams?
So it was these people
Atpg
Choxorn
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
Ishmael
Visorslash
Captain Blackadder

and you who were supposed to kill Buddhafish and Pizza didn't show?

You blocked Pizza night 1. So was that the bees that day?
How about you tell us who or what you actually are.

[Askthepizzaguy]

GeneralHankerchief:

I am mafia. I am the bees killer. I was roleblocked by my own bees.


I will now buzz at you annoyingly, and continue to vote for you for no reason whatsoever.

DIE FOOLISH TOWNIE DIE

[Askthepizzaguy]

I suppose I'm not allowed to do that.

Fine. Ruin it for me.

"I am not mafia. Just very annoyed."

[Askthepizzaguy]

ATPG was in on the Buddhafish kill and even CC'd us all on his order. So I'm not really sure why he's claiming he didn't do anything at night.

Bl....o.....cked.

Not allowed to act. No can do nothing, senor.

[Montmorency]

I'm not sure what happened earlier, but apparently Riedquat and edse spilled beans? What did they say, exactly?

I am indeed a third party role, and I win a major victory by surviving. I can do a group action on the same night as I use the roleblock. It evidently works through illusion.

A minor victory is to block the same target several times and have him survive to the end.

The sour note is that the Minor VC process causes the target to become a random 50%-chance-to-kill SK. I think I survived that attack because Pizza randomly attacked me, and failed the check.

***

Note: there were three with me in that writeup. One of them was GH, who protected me solo on a lark because his role is handicapped with a very low action success rate. It's why he asked for medicinal expertise in-thread. The second was Ishmael. Double A was late by 18 minutes, but Ishmael claims his confirmation PM was within the deadline according to his time. Pizza has twice claimed that he could not participate in an action, and it began the night he was fully "Marked".

There was no indication of it earlier, but I think the process might actually mess dudes up. My understanding was that the night the process was completed would not involve a roleblock, and that the random SKing would not interfere with other actions...

:shrug:

I had privately revealed these things to Ishmael, Visorslash, and Pizza prior to this.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well, I did my part and kept silent on that matter.

But I was and still am severely annoyed by it. I kept my mouth shut as to what was really happening for the sake of being fair.

I don't see why I couldn't just go KILL MONTY and start screeching "release me" like the alien in Independence Day.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm not going to pretend that I know everything that's going on in this game, not even close. But I have a hunch. And it's a pretty strong one. I think Pizza's been taunting us this entire game.

I have been taunting you. The end result is I either have fun, or someone kills me and I no longer have to be Monty's lapdog, or both.

One way or the other, the annoyingness is now coming to an end. Yay. At long last, yay.

Being helpless and without knowledge the entire game, only to be told why I'm helpless and ineffective, and if I say anything it will ruin someone else's fun, that's a lame situation to be in.

Everyone else got to do stuff. I got to do nothing literally the entire game so far.

Lost my partner N1. Been a zombie slave of Monty ever since.

It's like Khaan figured out my nightmare scenario and designed a game based off of that, just to get me back for all those times I lynched him when he was mafia.

[GeneralHankerchief]

This actually makes sense to me. Right now it seems like the host is trolling all of us equally, which is right up his alley.

-edit- this doesn't even factor into account Pizza's above post, but I can sympathize and it fits my point anyway. All of a sudden I feel better about me not being able to do much at night myself - at least I'm not anyone's puppet. :laugh4:

[autolycus]

If Pizza is bee man, then there is something strange going on with you, monty, because you just said that you survived because Pizza failed the roll. Pizza didn't attack you, he attacked Ishmael. @pizza: Any idea why you were with Salat the first night and Hashel the third?


Something isn't adding up here.

For the moment, unvote, vote; askthepizzaguy

Monty, we'd better not see your ability again.

[Askthepizzaguy]

This actually makes sense to me. Right now it seems like the host is trolling all of us equally, which is right up his alley.

I'm still gonna vote for and troll you. It's all I have left man, because you and Khaan are such good buddies.

I want you both to feel my pain.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Unvote: ATPG
Vote: Choxorn

[autolycus]

As for beans spilling, Ishmael told me you were 3rd party. You two and Lazy are the only people who I have communicated with outside the thread, so they didn't spill any beans to me, anyway.

Montmorency: So who got the snakes?

[Askthepizzaguy]

If Pizza is bee man, then there is something strange going on with you, monty, because you just said that you survived because Pizza failed the roll. Pizza didn't attack you, he attacked Ishmael. @pizza: Any idea why you were with Salat the first night and Hashel the third?


Something isn't adding up here.

For the moment, unvote, vote; askthepizzaguy

Monty, we'd better not see your ability again.

Awesome, he's not paying close attention.

YES AUTOLYCUS I AM THE BEE MAN

I WILL STING EVERYONE!!!


BUZZZZ!!! BUZZZ!!!! BUZZZZ with an even more threatening tone and harsh violin chords! Scary!

I'll murder you tonight Autolycus with my big bee stinger.


Also: Who or what are Salat and Hashel? You know better than I. Hell, I literally do not know where I am going every night. Monty has to tell me after the fact.

[Montmorency]

Pizza didn't attack you, he attacked Ishmael

No no, I was attacked N3. Ishmael was attacked N4. Buddha attacked Ishmael N4, as the writeup clearly shows, and failed because I blocked him.


So who got the snakes?

It's a three-step process: Pizza.

[autolycus]

Those are the names of the people you appeared with on Nights 1 and 3, when you had the bee hallucinations, just like I am Heshin, the vanilla guy who runs around with first-person Lazy McCrow. Your partner would be the logical person if it stayed the same, but it changed.


The Emperor really does look to have screwed this one up, I thought as I walked with Salat down another narrow corridor. Here we all are, running around like chickens without their heads, and getting butchered off one by one, all while trying, likely In vain, to find some escape. I sighed. “Salat, are you sure about this?” I asked, turning to him. What? Salat? Impossible, he was just here! That idiot, running off, he’ll get himself killed! “Salat, not amusing!” I yelled out. There was no response but my echo. I wouldn’t be so irritated about him being taken down, but him ditching leaves me in a precarious position too. With a huff, I kept going down the path, hoping this was just an idiotic prank. I found my way at an intersection, one path going left, one right, one straight ahead. I was pondering which way when I heard a buzzing. It was growing louder. From… behind? I whipped around, and was shocked that a swarm of bees in front of me. Impossible, we were underground! I felt a sharp prick upon my face as if to answer that as the swarm closed in. Oh gods, why bees. I hate bees… “NOT THE BEES!” I screamed at the top of my lungs and sprinted into what I hoped would be a safe haven down one of the halls.


It’s good to be out doing something,” I said to Hashel. “Hopefully we can head off any more bloodshed.” The emperor had just dismissed us, and we already had a plan together; even if some didn’t want it, we were going to help save lives, rather than cause further mayhem. Hashel didn’t answer me, but kept walking. “Hashel?” I asked. He was usually quite talkative, so his silence was odd. He stopped, and slowly turned his head to me. I gasped.

His eyes had become a violent shade of deep red, and blood was seeping down his face from a wound that stretched across it. He opened his mouth to say something, and a swarm of bees came spewing forth. They swarmed around me, and in a panic, I took flight down the hallway away from the monster that Hashel had become. Still, the swarm followed me, until I found I had taken a wrong turn, and ran into a dead end. I cowered and sat down, putting my head into my knees, trying to pretend the swarm wasn’t there. Naturally, the bees instead descended upon me, landing all over me, into my hair, across my arms and legs. Yet, they did not sting. They walked across me like a second, barbed skin, but no harm came to me.

Of course… I lifted my head, and more of the insects descended upon my face. It was my fear that was disabling me. It was not the insects, nothing else. Without warning, their buzzing grew louder, and they flew from me, and reformed their swarm in front of me. They moved out, slowly, as though inviting me to follow. I followed, renewed in my confidence. It was as though I was reborn! What a glorious feeling! I followed the swarm back to the camp, which currently was deserted. It hovered over where my belongings lay.

“Yes, yes…” I whispered. “It’s so logical, how did I never see it!” I rummaged through my belongings and found my treasured bear pelt, a trophy from a hunt with the emperor himself. I threw it across my shoulders, the maw of the slain beast resting upon my head. I grabbed my knife. The hunt, the glorious hunt was renewed! I was suddenly aware of how silent it was. The swarm, my guide, had vanished. It was no trouble. They had shown me the path, shown me how to overcome my fear. I took off at a sprint down the nearest hallway, reveling in the exuberance of fearlessness. I turned a corner and ran straight into Riedquat, who was limping along. We tumbled to the ground in a heap. Riedquat immediately began to scramble away from me. Was this… fear? I must show him to overcome it! As the swarm did for me! I scrambled to my feet as well, and lunged at him, bringing my knife to bear. It slashed his forearm as I tumbled into him again.

How bizarre. He didn’t seem to come to the revelation! Instead, he kept screaming like he was in pain! It hadn’t been enough, clearly. I brought my knife into his gut and twisted it. Still he screamed! I brought it down into his chest. His neck. I gashed his face. Finally. Silence. His face was quite still, beautifully decorated with crimson. He finally understood the absence of fear. I picked myself up. My bear pelt had fallen off during the scrum. Well, at least it hadn’t gotten blood on it. I threw it around my shoulders once more and stalked off to see if I couldn’t find anyone else to teach the glory of fearlessness…

[autolycus]

Monty, you're making no sense. The bear-skin guy is the guy who has "conquered his fear" who is clearly pizza and clearly attacked Ishmael. The guy with the mace seems highly unlikely to be the same. You're lying, and there's only one response for that.

Unvote, Vote: montmorency.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So I'm actually a snake man, or am I a bee man?

I do know this: If left unchecked, I may/may not kill some/all of you eventually. For I am the sort-of-serial-killer that has a town win condition still, who can't pick who he kills, so I have no way of advancing my win condition except by vote. And I happen to be an ineffective sort-of-serial killer, so I'm not even good at the thing that I can't control.

It's the perfect storm of khaan-trolling.

Get it? Because I'm being controlled? Khaan-trolled?

Wait, on preview it says I'm a bear man.

Am I a bear, a snake, or a bee?

Am I town or serial killer?

I mean.... but... wha...




KHAAAAN!!!!

[Montmorency]

One question: you and Crow are not starting partners, yes? Why are you on a first-name basis in the writeups?

Bet you can't answer that. The host's flavor, I suppose.

[autolycus]

Current tally:
Choxorn: GH, Lazy McCrow, Jarema
Montmorency: Autolycus
GH: Atpg

[autolycus]

Monty, because we were starting partners, or rather my role was. I replaced in for night 2, but my role was his partner from the beginning.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The host's flavor, I suppose.

It tastes like.... burning!

[Riedquat]

I'm not sure what happened earlier, but apparently Riedquat and edse spilled beans? What did they say, exactly?

I've said I can't not
, edse pointed out my typo/lack-of-viable-neurons-today, I corrected my post (the typo) and said some gibberish I still don't understand... that's all!

[Montmorency]

Monty, you're making no sense. The bear-skin guy is the guy who has "conquered his fear" who is clearly pizza and clearly attacked Ishmael. The guy with the mace seems highly unlikely to be the same. You're lying, and there's only one response for that.

Oh, I see it. I've got it wrong. :blush:

Then who is my attacker? Single townies both attacked and protected me on the same night? Ridiculous.

If Pizza is indeed Riedquat's killer and Ishmael's attacker, then we sort of have to lynch him. Vote: ATPG

[GeneralHankerchief]

So this is basically a "clean up Monty's mess" round?

[Montmorency]

Quid pro quo.

:shrug:

[autolycus]

The question is: do we clean up Monty's mess, or do we clean up Monty?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh, I see it. I've got it wrong. :blush:

Then who is my attacker? Single townies both attacked and protected me on the same night? Ridiculous.

If Pizza is indeed Riedquat's killer and Ishmael's attacker, then we sort of have to lynch him. Vote: ATPG

I feel so used and discarded.

At least put some dollar bills in my garter belt, you terrible, terrible man!

YOU DID THIS TO ME!!! *points at pregnant stomach full of evil*


Unvote, vote: Monty


This is nothing more than a cry of agony. I literally don't care what happens to me or when. Just make Monty die.

[Montmorency]

Well, you could lynch me, but you'd have a killer or two left to deal with - sans blocker. It's a legitimate mistake - I couldn't have known...

[TinCow]

I'm not sure what happened earlier, but apparently Riedquat and edse spilled beans? What did they say, exactly?

I am indeed a third party role, and I win a major victory by surviving. I can do a group action on the same night as I use the roleblock. It evidently works through illusion.

A minor victory is to block the same target several times and have him survive to the end.

The sour note is that the Minor VC process causes the target to become a random 50%-chance-to-kill SK. I think I survived that attack because Pizza randomly attacked me, and failed the check.

***

Note: there were three with me in that writeup. One of them was GH, who protected me solo on a lark because his role is handicapped with a very low action success rate. It's why he asked for medicinal expertise in-thread. The second was Ishmael. Double A was late by 18 minutes, but Ishmael claims his confirmation PM was within the deadline according to his time. Pizza has twice claimed that he could not participate in an action, and it began the night he was fully "Marked".

There was no indication of it earlier, but I think the process might actually mess dudes up. My understanding was that the night the process was completed would not involve a roleblock, and that the random SKing would not interfere with other actions...

:shrug:

I had privately revealed these things to Ishmael, Visorslash, and Pizza prior to this.

Ah yes, roles like these created by 'khaan are always good news for the town. :rolleyes:

As I said many times before, lynch Monty.

[Montmorency]

As I said many times before,

You said it once.

All I need is to survive. If Town wins, I win. (Though if scum wins and I survive, I also win, technically...). That I've worked so hard on Town's behalf should count for something, surely?

[Askthepizzaguy]

That I've worked so hard on Town's behalf should count for something, surely?

All that matters to me is you've forsaken our lovechild.

I want a divorce!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Unvote: Choxorn
Vote: Monty

Sorry mate.

[Montmorency]

Lynching me won't bring the game to a close, I hope you realize.

[TinCow]

You said it once.

All I need is to survive. If Town wins, I win. (Though if scum wins and I survive, I also win, technically...). That I've worked so hard on Town's behalf should count for something, surely?

I said it two (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142389-The-House-of-Origin-IN-PLAY&p=2053490952#post2053490952) times (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142389-The-House-of-Origin-IN-PLAY&p=2053491132#post2053491132), not including this most recent one. Perhaps an exaggeration on 'many', but you've been scummy for days so exaggeration is warranted.

Yes, yes, you're very believable. No one could possibly lie about being a survivalist... Surely we must look elsewhere for scum!

[Montmorency]

So those night actions I was in don't count toward showing that I describe my role truthfully? I told all this to my partner on Day 2. This isn't some spontaneous invention.

[Riedquat]

Then who is my attacker? Single townies both attacked and protected me on the same night? Ridiculous.

:stare: Autolycus already mentioned the possibility a single doomed townie was your attacker :stare:

[Montmorency]

As far as deja vu goes, this is too funny.

[seireikhaan]

Current tally for y'allz.


Montmorency 3 (Askthepizzaguy, Autolycus, GeneralHankerchief)
Choxorn 2 (Jarema, Lazy McCrow)
Askthepizzaguy 1 (Montmorency)

[TinCow]

So those night actions I was in don't count toward showing that I describe my role truthfully? I told all this to my partner on Day 2. This isn't some spontaneous invention.

Wow, these claims all seem oddly familiar (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?100679-Netherworld-Mafia-Concluded)...

[Montmorency]

I've demonstrated this role-block/SKization power, as well as my ability to perform in group night actions. What could I be hiding? Do you suppose I can pull off three actions a night?

[TinCow]

I've demonstrated this role-block/SKization power, as well as my ability to perform in group night actions. What could I be hiding? Do you suppose I can pull off three actions a night?

You could be hiding (1) powers have you decided not to use and (2) your true objective. There is no possible way for you to prove that you are limited to roleblocking and that you are only a survivalist who is not hostile to the town. You also claim that your roleblock alters other players' roles. The ability to change other players' roles is a scum power that 'khaan is fond of and has used before. It doesn't tend to be present on roles which are good for the town.

[Montmorency]

Fair enough - I can't prove that this isn't some unwieldy gambit to unleash my MacGuffin ability. :brood: I think the truly powerful 3rd-parties are dead or in hiding, though.

I really am a pretty weak role in terms of abilities, overall. I was last time as well. I just hope, for your sake, that all there's no scum left, or only one, beyond the Pizza case.

[Ishmael]

Guys, lets think clearly for a moment. Ignoring his claimed role for now, Montmorency has been acting townie all game - I've agreed that all his vig targets had appeared scummy (at the time, at least), and the attempted protection of Makrell also showed a desire to help the town. In regards to his role and claimed VC, I have seen nothing to date to indicate that he is lying about either. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt for now - kill off a known killer, organise only protection groups tonight, and see if we can clear some more townies (or possibly end this game, if the kills last night were all that's left. I doubt it, though.)

vote: ATPG

[Choxorn]

I still have no idea what's going on.

Can we lynch both ATPG and Montmorency?

Vote: ATPG

[TinCow]

Montmorency has been acting townie all game

Minus the whole "let's get the names of everyone who is likely cleared by night actions out in the public so that they can be killed" thing. If you're going to lynch ATPG, at least do us all a favor and vig Monty afterwards. If you leave him alive, by his own admission he's just going to keep creating serial killers.

[Montmorency]

by his own admission he's just going to keep creating serial killers.

By my own admission? I never said any such thing. I claimed that getting one of those SKs to survive would be a minor VC, a substitute for my own survival. Even if I wanted to mess about, how could I? It took me 3 days for Pizza, and there are just not three nights left in the game. At any rate, it would be visible in the writeup.

How about this: if I survive the lynch, I will only engage in protection work. I simply don't use that power. And get this - any other big power you can think of, from killing to converting to whatever - would be visible in the writeup. If I do anything untoward, it will be exceedingly obvious.


"let's get the names of everyone who is likely cleared by night actions out in the public so that they can be killed"

Look, perhaps it was misguided, but I assumed the 3rd-party killers would leave well enough alone - I figured in that case that the Mafia would just kill one per night, which would really not be enough to silence them all. :shrug:

[Captain Blackadder]

Auto why did you kill me the struggling artist?

[seireikhaan]

Just a reminder, in the event of a tie, I will simply go to a run-off period, whereby the first change to break the tie will automatically end the round. If nobody changes their mind in whatever I deem to be "fast enough", I'll make up something else on my whim.

[seireikhaan]

Montmorency 3 (Askthepizzaguy, Autolycus, GeneralHankerchief)
Askthepizzaguy 3 (Choxorn, Ishmael, Montmorency)
Choxorn 2 (Jarema, Lazy McCrow)

edit: 1 hour, 22 minutes to go.

[seireikhaan]

So yeah. Still tied. Cue runoff.

[Chaotix]

Vote: Montmorency

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why? I'm an admitted involuntary serial killerish kind of thingy.

Even I'm laughing at the fact that I still have a town win con. That's when I know the cosmic joke is on me.

Don't toy with me and my fragile little hopes. If you lynch Monty, and it frees me of his control, and I finally get to act like a normal townie again, if yall decide then is the proper time to kill me, I'm going to burst a blood vessel in my brain.

[Chaotix]

Why? I'm an admitted involuntary serial killerish kind of thingy.

Even I'm laughing at the fact that I still have a town win con. That's when I know the cosmic joke is on me.

Don't toy with me and my fragile little hopes. If you lynch Monty, and it frees me of his control, and I finally get to act like a normal townie again, if yall decide then is the proper time to kill me, I'm going to burst a blood vessel in my brain.

Dude, I'm dead. Haven't been paying attention since.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Dude, I'm dead. Haven't been paying attention since.

I'm alive and I didn't even notice.

[Visor]

Pizza, it is my belief that you will still be a SK thing, as it is part of Monty's wincon.

Except leaving you alive could kill the mafia, so I'm tempted to vote Monty. However, it could also end up backfiring, and other things.

I'm torn here, dunno who to kill.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizza, it is my belief that you will still be a SK thing, as it is part of Monty's wincon.

Except leaving you alive could kill the mafia, so I'm tempted to vote Monty. However, it could also end up backfiring, and other things.

I'm torn here, dunno who to kill.

It's possible.

I will tell you honestly if I am (Yeah, I know, I said that with a straight face. but I mean it) because I still have a townie wincon.

See what I do tonight. I'm not going anywhere.

If I need to die, I need to die. But if I don't, at least force the mafia to kill me.

[Visor]

Vote: Montmorency

A shame.

[seireikhaan]

Aaaaaaaaaaand it's gone.

Writeup in progress. Monty was lynched, anyone left with orders can feel free to start sending them in.

[Askthepizzaguy]

mwahahaha.

[seireikhaan]

For perhaps the first time so far, I actually felt fear permeate the crowd. There was almost an air of desperation. It seemed no amount of manly authority was going to just perk this up. We ended up at a three way crossroads- three different parties all at each other’s throats, certain of the other’s treachery. Something… felt wrong about it, but I couldn’t dispute the continued carnage every time we tried to find a new exit. After an interminable length of time, the last member of the retinue, Visorslash, made the crucial choice. He threw in his lot against Montmorency, who looked puzzled at decision. Still, he allowed himself to be walked up to me. The few remaining guards forced him to his knees, his head bent over. I readied my sword high, again trying to impose a feeling of authority to my executions.

“Montmorency, I hereby-“

“Bahahahahahaha!” Montmorency bellowed an unnaturally deep laugh.

My eyes widened at the sheer insubordination. He… dared to interrupt me? I waited for him to finish his amusement. I decided to not acknowledge his defiance.

“Montmorency, I hereby-“

“Sentence me to death?” He asked, looking up, grinning like a madman. “How fascinating. Do tell. How will you do it? Just a boring decapitation?”

“I-what… why you…” I stammered out. I have to admit, I was entirely unused to this.

“Come on! Do something more interesting! How about tying me down and letting the rest feast on my flesh! Or, perhaps, throwing me into a pool, filled with carnivorous fish! With blades attached to their fins! Yes, make it a spectacle!”

“I will execute you how I choose! I am in control!” I retaliated. Furious, I stepped forth and sliced his neck in two in a single blow. As his head fell to the ground, a thick black mist suddenly came spewing forth from the wound, with staggering force and volume. The entire camp went black, and screams of surprise and shock rang out. And, I could swear, a short, high pitched cackle was interspersed with them. As suddenly as everything had gone dark, the mist was gone. Everyone was looking around in confusion, trying to figure out what was going on. Was… was that it? Had it been Montmorency all along? I had to go along with it, even if I wasn’t sure.

“Well done, my loyal followers! We have surely vanquished the evil that has plagued us! Now, to glory! To freedom! An exit must soon be at hand!”





IT IS NOW NIGHT 5.

You have 21 hours.



Feedback will be out asap.

Alive:

Askthepizzaguy
Autolycus
Choxorn
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
Ishmael
Jarema
Lazy McCrow
Visorslash

Lynched:

NinjaCow (D1)
God Emperor (D2)
TinCow (D3)
Andres (D4)
Montmorency (D5)

Killed:

Atheotes (N1)
JoanK (N1)
Arjos (N2)
Bsmith (N2)
Ironside (N2)
Zack (N2)
Chaotix (N3)
Edse (N3)
Makrell (N3)
Riedquat (N3)
White Eyes (N3)
Buddhafish (N4)
Captain Blackadder (N4)

Attacked:

Ishmael (N1)
Tincow (N2)
Ishmael (N4)

Wrath of Khaan:

Kagemusha (D3)
Xenoneb (D4)
Jolt (D4)

[LazyMcCrow]

Cripes. Do you think that was a mistake? I mean Monty didn't seem at all evil when he died there...

[Montmorency]

I wouldn't rely overmuch on the lynch writeup to give you clues.

There's a hangup - Town has evicted the lamb in favor of the lion. Can a lion learn to eat grass? :no: :shame:

As for my own death, well, add it to the Island martyrdom and the With Great Sacrifice something-or-other. It is not for acclaim or gratitude or even tolerance for which I do the things. The fact of service does suffice.

Let's make this a trend. Let's make this a tradition. (I'm a one-trick pony...)

[Ishmael]

Did you guys really have to lynch my partner the day after the auction?

[TinCow]

Well done. :bow:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have no indication I am free from Monty's influence, just as a heads up.

It's not conclusive that I'm still a threat but there, it's honest reporting of the facts.

I'll know for sure in the morning and so will the rest of you.

[Double A]

I don't know why I keep forgetting to check the Gameroom for stuff, but until I do, I should probably be replaced and stop joining, if it isn't any trouble.

[White_eyes:D]

Well at least Monty was lynched...I still wish/hope/bribe for the deaths of Auto and Lazy.:bounce:

TinCow: Shouldn't you be holding a vendetta with them for getting you killed?:laugh4:

[TinCow]

@TinCow (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=6193): Shouldn't you be holding a vendetta with them for getting you killed?:laugh4:

No one got me killed except myself. If I can't talk my way out of a lynching, I deserve my fate just like everyone else.

[White_eyes:D]

See, this is how you KNOW TinCow was town....he acts close to a saint.:saint:

You freak me out when your mafia/SK...thought you should know.:sweatdrop:

[TinCow]

See, this is how you KNOW TinCow was town....he acts close to a saint.:saint:

You freak me out when your mafia/SK...thought you should know.:sweatdrop:

I'm always town, especially when I'm not. :stare:

[Montmorency]

Jesus, have you even organized a protection group? So sloppy... At least vig Pizza so you can lynch the real threat tomorrow.

[seireikhaan]

Hokai, night over, writeups in progress.

[LazyMcCrow]

Well at least Monty was lynched...I still wish/hope/bribe for the deaths of Auto and Lazy.:bounce:

TinCow: Shouldn't you be holding a vendetta with them for getting you killed?:laugh4:

First part of this post makes you scum. Second part makes you town again. Auto and I did what we could to avoid TinCow being killed. Vigging you was a mistake - Looks like vigging Capt B was probably a mistake too. That's bad luck - we should have hit something scummy by the odds.

[seireikhaan]

Apologies, this will be a bit more delayed than I'd planned. Brain no do working things.

[White_eyes:D]

First part of this post makes you scum. Second part makes you town again.

Cool, I did both scum/town at once. I just find it suspicious that you guys are still alive and none of the scum tried killing you yet.:book:

[LazyMcCrow]

Yeah - I've found that a bit weird, but I do fear something will have happened this night to remedy that.

[TinCow]

Cool, I did both scum/town at once. I just find it suspicious that you guys are still alive and none of the scum tried killing you yet.:book:

If they weren't targeted in the night that just ended, the town should certainly focus some attention on them. Prior to the most recent night, I could see reasons for the mafia avoiding them as targets. I don't see any such reason for this most recent night though.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Just a warning, my activity will be limited this weekend.

[Andres]

Just a warning, my activity will be limited this weekend.


How can you be so sure the game won't be over after 'khaan posts his write-up?

[LazyMcCrow]

How can you be so sure the game won't be over after 'khaan posts his write-up?

Ha! Caught in the act!

[Montmorency]

Tincow: you think there are two killers (besides Pizza) still out there?

Then why were you so eager to have me lynched?

Leaving that aside: killers are the least of the Town's problems. Y'all done reaped the whirlwind...

[TinCow]

Tincow: you think there are two killers (besides Pizza) still out there?

Then why were you so eager to have me lynched?

Clearly your question was rhetorical, but I'll respond anyway.

I have no idea how many killers there are left. If my opinion on that question matters so much, I'll give you one after the night's write-up is posted. As for why I wanted you lynched, that was because I believe you were scum. That's usually why I want people lynched.

[Montmorency]

I have no idea how many killers there are left. If my opinion on that question matters so much, I'll give you one after the night's write-up is posted. As for why I wanted you lynched, that was because I believe you were scum. That's usually why I want people lynched.

Yet it doesn't add up. Thus, your foolhardy vendetta has doomed them all. :shame:

Don't worry, your exhortations actually had no effect on the outcome. But it's even more twisted than any of us could have imagined...

[TinCow]

Yet it doesn't add up. Thus, your foolhardy vendetta has doomed them all. :shame:

Don't worry, your exhortations actually had no effect on the outcome. But it's even more twisted than any of us could have imagined...

Hey, you're the one still complaining about it. I'm just a dead townie.

[seireikhaan]

“Where are they?” I whispered to the man next to me. I wasn’t really sure who he was exactly, but I knew from his face he was one of the folk who had supposedly enlisted to help with this. Sadly, it seemed the rest either lost their nerve or themselves along the way. He didn’t say anything, just shrugging.

The target for the time being, Choxorn, was examining a stone hoop emerging from the side of the gigantic, square room he was in. It seemed like an ancient precursor to our modern gymnasiums, perhaps for ancient ball games. There was an overly large circular indentation in the center, which is where he was currently standing, examining the edge. His curiosity apparently, he stepped out and started heading out to the other tunnel leading out. We were going to lose him! I motioned to the other fellow, and I made out like a bandit. Sword in hand, I charged at my prey, who turned in confusion on hearing my approach. I raised my weapon high, ready to strike him down… and forgot about the indentation. I felt a swooping sensation in my gut as my foot went sank deeper than I’d expected, and I flailed face first into the circle. Unfortunately, in my fall, I lost handle of my sword, which went skittering directly to the opposite side, settling right next to Choxorn. Still looking confused, he picked the sword up and marched on his merry way out the other tunnel. The second fellow with me walked up and offered a hand.

“Why didn’t you give chase?” I asked, exasperated. Once again, no response but a shrug. I sighed. Well, time to start over from scratch…






While we had discovered other temples in the labyrinth, the one we had followed GeneralHankerchief to was undoubtedly the largest. Its ceiling vaulted well over twice as high as the others, with massive seating sections carved from the marble itself into rows and rows of pews. GH was browsing around the pews, running a hand along the surface. I looked to the other two gentlemen with me, who gave nods of approval. I unsheathed my sword, and we three rushed from our hidden position. GH spun on the spot, hearing our approach. He vaulted over the nearest pew and froze in place. We started leaping the pews after him, and he began vaulting towards the end of the rows himself once more. I motioned for the other two to go for a flanking maneuver, and they both exited the seats and found themselves both making for the left side. Immediately recognizing our tactical error, GeneralHankerchief sprinted out of the pews in the other direction. Cursing at our luck, I ran after him, but he had a head start. I gave up as he ran into the labyrinth once more, and made a rude gesture at my comrades for their poor coordination.







It was time yet again for glory! I was running through the endless pathways, sprinting, basking in the liberation from being surrounded by others. My momentum carried me around a corner and I flew into two armed men, tumbling in between them. I managed to tuck myself into a roll and bounced up. The first man was tall, with a confident, fearless demeanor. The other was shorter, and looked alarmed at my appearance. Yes. Him. He needs my instruction. Grinning gleefully, I pulled my knife from my belt.

“Askthepizzaguy,” The confident man began as he unsheathed a pretty, shiny sword. “In the name of our emperor, I pass judgment upon you!” I cackled.

“You cannot pass judgment upon me, not until you have judged yourselves! Conquer your fear, revel in the bliss of its absence, and then you may judge me!”

The man grinned. His partner, Autolycus, still looked unsure. My chance! I leaped forward, and they both tried to cut me down. Autolycus, obviously hindered by his fear, missed me completely, while the other man sliced a deep gash into my side as I was in mid-air. A wound was nothing! I collided into Autolycus, and rammed my knife into his chest. I stabbed him again and again, not even feeling it when the other man rammed his sword straight into my back. I slammed my blade into Autolycus’ throat. His face, the fear. It was plastered across. Such a pitiable man, fearing the embrace of death. My lesson… it failed. I let my arms fall to my side, and I looked to the other man, grinning once more.

“You will join him soon. Do you fear the caress of death?” I asked. Fury stoked his eyes as he raised his sword high with both hands. I bellowed with laughter once more, at last, the world went black…






Blood seeped from the walls. Bones littered the floor. The face followed him. Haunted me. It whispered to me.

“He is foul. He defiles…”

Over and over again. The face of god, he called himself. How could I argue with god? I kill this man, god will reward me. God will make things good again. There he was, basking in a pool of blood. I gripped my knife. A servant of the divine. His protector, his sentinel. Yes, I would be the arm that delivered judgment.

No. Not him.

Another face! It was a wisp, swirling around me.

Another. Not him.

“No! He is foul!” The first one whispered again. “Serve the face of god!”

I am The Divine.

I panicked. What… no… how do I choose? Who… what is this second? Are they both god?

Suddenly, the wispy, second face vanished.

“I am the face of god…” the first one whispered again. “He... must die.”

I grinned widely.

“Of course, my god.” I would feel shame for considering to forsake the divine for an apparition, but I felt nothing but glee at having been chosen for such a divine task.

“Purge the world... cleanse it.”

Yes, the foul creature before me! Ishmael still lay on his back, floating across the surface of a massive pool of blood. I jumped in and buried my blade into his neck. He thrashed. I held him still. My knife, the tool of god. It silenced the thrashing. I pulled myself from the pool. Blood, everywhere. Soaked into my skin.

“You have done well…”






I- I'm at a bit of a loss. We clearly slew a great evil the last time we regrouped, but here we were again, with three fewer people. There were bitter faces in the crowd, along with faces still eager for vengeance. I sat down next to the scribe, who looked marginally more depressed than me. Still, I gave a wave of my hand to give my permission for them to go searching out the "next great evil".



IT IS NOW DAY SIX.

You have 36 hours. (to avoid another "ending at the early morning" problem)



Feedback will be out asap. Again, very sorry for the delay.

Alive:

Choxorn
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
Jarema
Lazy McCrow
Visorslash

Lynched:

NinjaCow (D1)
God Emperor (D2)
TinCow (D3)
Andres (D4)

Killed:

Atheotes (N1)
JoanK (N1)
Arjos (N2)
Bsmith (N2)
Ironside (N2)
Zack (N2)
Chaotix (N3)
Edse (N3)
Makrell (N3)
Riedquat (N3)
White Eyes (N3)
Buddhafish (N4)
Captain Blackadder (N4)
Askthepizzaguy (N5)
Autolycus (N5)
Ishmael (N5)

Attacked:

Ishmael (N1)
Tincow (N2)
Ishmael (N4)
GeneralHankerchief (N5)

Wrath of Khaan:

Kagemusha (D3)
Xenoneb (D4)
Jolt (D4)

[Ishmael]

Third time's a charm for killing me, it seems. I have no advice whatsoever on who to lynch, although I do think GH is townie.

Incidentally 'khaan, Montmorency is still listed as 'alive.'

[seireikhaan]

Third time's a charm for killing me, it seems. I have no advice whatsoever on who to lynch, although I do think GH is townie.

Incidentally 'khaan, Montmorency is still listed as 'alive.'
My mistake, thanks for catching it. :bow:

[LazyMcCrow]

Third time's a charm for killing me, it seems. I have no advice whatsoever on who to lynch, although I do think GH is townie.

Incidentally 'khaan, Montmorency is still listed as 'alive.'

Why on earth would you think GH is townie?

vote: GeneralHankerchief

[LazyMcCrow]

Third time's a charm for killing me, it seems. I have no advice whatsoever on who to lynch, although I do think GH is townie.

Incidentally 'khaan, Montmorency is still listed as 'alive.'

Why on earth would you think GH is townie?

vote: GeneralHankerchief

[White_eyes:D]

I am thinking everyone Monty "blocked"*finger quotes here*, must be some kind of cross-over SK. GH is indeed a good lynch...I get tired of the "I am busy, so don't lynch me excuse" even if you are.:shrug:

[Visor]

GH has got to be scum, Auto's PM would simply prove that.

Vote: GH

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay, this is ridiculous. First of all, saying that my activity would be limited over the weekend was simply a courtesy to you guys in case you were wondering where I went, nothing more. I never asked to not be lynched because of it.

Second of all, it's clear that people have been going behind my back the past night. The fact that only two people showed up to attack Choxorn (of which I was one of them) and the fact that the other three of them went after me instead proves this. I imagine that if someone else had changed their orders in on time I'd be dead right now.

Third of all, I'd be more than happy to list the exchange of PMs I had with autolycus over the past phase or two:


Lynching Monty and then having you guys off ATPG at night seems to be our safest play. What do you think?

My initial PM to auto when last day's lynch was in doubt. This seemed to cover all of our bases and deal with the Monty issue for good.






Lynching Monty and then having you guys off ATPG at night seems to be our safest play. What do you think?
That seems good to me. There is a small risk of atpg hitting one of us, but there's also a chance he hits our enemies.

I put a vig hit out on Choxorn as per the original lynch target. You're clear to hit ATPG.

Sounds good. I presume you're getting everyone else to participate in that vig?

We're still throwing ideas back and forth, but for now the hit is on Choxorn and everybody who was in the Buddhafish group who is still alive (minus Choxorn himself) is in on the hit.

As per the original lynch strategy we had yesterday before the information about Monty's role came out. This way we could get out main lynch targets out of the way and focus on what was left. I really don't see how there's anything damning in any of this.

[autolycus]

GH is clean.

The scum lies among the other four.

Night 2 Ishmael and Monty said Double A was with them, and there was another red kill, so I think it's not him.

That leaves Visorslash, Choxorn, and Jarrema.

Pick one of them.

[autolycus]

I think Jarrema is clean. See Montmorency's post, #381, for why.
That leaves choxorn and visorslash.
Visorslash feels slightly scummier to me, but please, people, do additional analysis, and claim night actions.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I feel like Visor was one of the townies who attacked me last night, since he was in on the PM chain. Choxorn, being the group's target, was obviously not included.

Vote: Choxorn

[LazyMcCrow]

unvote, vote: Choxorn

[Montmorency]

I am thinking everyone Monty "blocked"*finger quotes here*, must be some kind of cross-over SK. GH is indeed a good lynch...I get tired of the "I am busy, so don't lynch me excuse" even if you are.


Only Pizza. I mentioned this...


As per the original lynch strategy we had yesterday before the information about Monty's role came out. This way we could get out main lynch targets out of the way and focus on what was left. I really don't see how there's anything damning in any of this.


Your short-sightedness is what damns you all. You see, autolycus died because of my foolish lynch.

Lynch Choxorn. He's the killer, which is the key thing. Come on, Visorrr...

Note that there were 5 failed viggers last night - GH, please reveal their identities.