Random-ice-cream-flavoured friends of the friends [Concluded]

[edse]

OMG!! I'm dead :(

[BSmith]

Derp. His vote threw me off…


I just wrote a big long post voting for ATPG and giving logical reasoning why, but screw that. I've been there before and always been wrong.

I've helped keep ATPG alive this long, may as well continue. I'd also like to prove Monty's prediction because... well just because I'm annoying like that.

vote: BSmith

unvote; vote: Elite Ferret. This is an absolutely useless reason, and another pile on the speedwagon.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Derp. His vote threw me off…

LOL

Unvote BSmith

That was either classic townie blunder or very well executed strategy. I can't kills you now.

Consider my rap song a souvenir.

[Ferret]

No more reasonless than any of the other votes this round.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I can't vote EF, though. I don't see it, and I made a promise.

Back to Visorslash.

Vote: Visorslash.

[johnhughthom]

Ah well, Follow Pizza Fun Time is over.

I'm going back to the scummiest dude in the game, with some perfectly timed votes on the scum in an attempt to look innocent.

Cakevote; Vote: Elite Ferret

[Riedquat]

Ah well, Follow Pizza Fun Time is over.

I'm going back to the scummiest dude in the game, with some perfectly timed votes on the scum in an attempt to look innocent.

Cakevote; Vote: Elite Ferret

Remember that scummy post from Chaotix from day 2(?) about him not liking these bandwagons trying to detract votes from B_Ray? He voted EF there... you don't try to save your partner voting for the other...

[Darth Feather]

Well, I'll have to unvote: BSmith I think a scum would know his kill-list and not blame it on the dead guy (who miraculously didn't even realise he was dead).

So my second choice: vote: Makrell

I don't think Visorslash is guilty though. I think he is just misguided (I don't think pizza is guilty either.)

[El Barto]

Tally and comments, with fish, chips and fried onions. Check out mah awesome sammiches:.

This, I believe, is the appropriate tally:

Askthepizzaguy: Visorslash; Makrell; LazyMcCrow (3)
Visorslash: Ibn-Khaldun; Askthepizzaguy (2)
BSmith: Riedquat; Double A; -edse-; Elite Ferret (3)
Makrell: Darth Feather (1)
Elite Ferret: BSmith; johnhughthom (2)

People not voting: Caius, Seon, Diana Abnoba; Montmorency; Choxorn (5)

People voting for buns: Choxorn; Chaotix; townhughthom
People voting for cake: townhughthom

Apologies for spamming your thread, El Barto.
Why do you apologise for spamming?


It's because he's a sith!Would you say you're absolutely sure about that?
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

[Choxorn]

Vote: Elite Ferret

[Ferret]

Remember that scummy post from Chaotix from day 2(?) about him not liking these bandwagons trying to detract votes from B_Ray? He voted EF there... you don't try to save your partner voting for the other...

QFT

[Riedquat]

Tally and comments, with fish, chips and fried onions. Check out mah awesome sammiches:.

This, I believe, is the appropriate tally:

Askthepizzaguy: Visorslash; Makrell; LazyMcCrow (3)
Visorslash: Ibn-Khaldun; Askthepizzaguy (2)
BSmith: Riedquat; Double A; -edse-; Elite Ferret (3)
Makrell: Darth Feather (1)
Elite Ferret: BSmith; johnhughthom (2)

People not voting: Caius, Seon, Diana Abnoba; Montmorency; Choxorn (5)

People voting for buns: Choxorn; Chaotix; townhughthom
People voting for cake: townhughthom

Why do you apologise for spamming?

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

First, I want a sammich! Second and most interesting... Montmorency can vote?

[johnhughthom]

Remember that scummy post from Chaotix from day 2(?) about him not liking these bandwagons trying to detract votes from B_Ray? He voted EF there... you don't try to save your partner voting for the other...

My first rule of being mafia:


don't try to save your partner

renders this meaningless.

Of course, not everyone plays mafia like me. But I'm pretty great.

[El Barto]

First, I want a sammich! Second and most interesting... Montmorency can vote?
I've been keeping Montmorency both in the Dead Players' and the Live Players' list.
Proper player lists here:

Living
BSmith
Double A
LazyMcCrow
Darth Feather
Askthepizzaguy
Makrell
Riedquat
choxorn
Caius
Seon
Diana Abnoba
Ibn-Khaldun
Elite Ferret
Visorslash
townhughthom

Dead
robbiecon, town, killed Night One.
B_Ray, Mafia, lynched Day Two.
edse, town, killed Night Two.
Jarema, town, lynched Day Three.
rickinator9, town, killed Night Three.
Chaotix, Mafia, lynched Day Four.
Major Robert Dump, town, killed Night Four.
Montmorency, town, lynched Day Five.
Sammich for one, with spam, meat, bacon and spam, egg, sausage and spam on top, coming right up!

[Choxorn]

My first rule of being mafia:



renders this meaningless.

Of course, not everyone plays mafia like me. But I'm pretty great.

I thought the first rule of being mafia was "Don't die"

[Chaotix]

Oh no, don't lynch Elite Ferret!

We need him alive to keep killing people!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Did I just leave myself in a tied vote that I could have broken again?

Point: there's a scumbag left remaining, and they will break any tie against the town if it mattered who died.

We're just wasting lynches with indecision.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well derp there's 18 hours left in the round.

I'm not feeling the BSmith lynch, and I don't feel obliged to vote for Elite Ferret. The tally is a mess of mini-wagons.

I've got my vote on Visorslash, but I'm open to suggestions. If you're interested in filet of Makrell I can also do that too.

[LazyMcCrow]

I thought the first rule of being mafia was "Don't die"

I still think you're mafia

[Choxorn]

That's because I'm the scummiest townie ever that isn't ATPG, Zack, or Takhittybarto the Renewer.

[LazyMcCrow]

That's because I'm the scummiest townie ever that isn't ATPG, Zack, or Takhittybarto the Renewer.

Why Elite Ferret?

[Visor]

If I get lynched over ATPG, after leading the Chaotix lynch (twice), over a lying scumbag that Pizzaguy is, I'm going to be very confused.

Are you all afraid of voting for Pizza or something. Especially he is happy to have me dead over even a random suspect?

Stop being so intimidated by his blustery words and vote him, because he is scum.

[LazyMcCrow]

I don't know how much of a defense lynching Chaotix is for you - you may just be scum of a different flavour, but I'd welcome ATPG's lynch over yours and would recommend others vote likewise. ATPG has been erratic and diverting, whereas you at least appear to me to have been your model-townie self.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If I get lynched over ATPG, after leading the Chaotix lynch (twice), over a lying scumbag that Pizzaguy is, I'm going to be very confused.

Are you all afraid of voting for Pizza or something. Especially he is happy to have me dead over even a random suspect?

Stop being so intimidated by his blustery words and vote him, because he is scum.


9054


Hey! Why come u no give me credit for bussing teammate Chaotix?



I bus teammate Chaotix good. Smash his brain. Crack his skull. Smash smash smash.

Prove me good townie. It prove that! Don't say it don't!

U ALL SHEEPLE, WHY U FOLLOW PIZZA MAN SO BLINDLY

WHY BLINDLY FOLLOW PIZZA MAN, WAIL SCUMBAG

WHY U

BLINDLY

FOLLOW

PIZZA MAN

LYNCH PIZZA

[Riedquat]

If I get lynched over ATPG, after leading the Chaotix lynch (twice), over a lying scumbag that Pizzaguy is, I'm going to be very confused.

Are you all afraid of voting for Pizza or something. Especially he is happy to have me dead over even a random suspect?

Stop being so intimidated by his blustery words and vote him, because he is scum.

I'm not an Atpg's fanboy, you say he is scum. Why do you think so? Let aside for a minute the last minute vote change, you and monty were going after Pizza before, why?

I'm not convinced about Bsmith innocence for just voting a deceased townie, for now my vote stands.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm not convinced about Bsmith innocence for just voting a deceased townie, for now my vote stands.

Come on now, that's gotta be worth something. Either it's the kind of accident that shows he's fully unaware of who the mafia have been murdering, (which, incidentally, I didn't catch either) or it's the kind of brilliant scummery that makes the game more entertaining.

Either way, I think that deserves a stay of execution.

Visor's frustrated his bussing isn't going over like he'd hoped. That's clearly scum cracking under the absurdity of Pizzaguy.

And I was getting to the point where I was thinking of changing my vote, too. Bad Visor.

[Askthepizzaguy]

SERIOUS ANALYSIS MODE

Shame, I was having fun bullshitting.




NIGHT FIVE

Misteriously, there were no deaths tonight.


Living
BSmith
Double A
LazyMcCrow
Darth Feather
Askthepizzaguy
Makrell
Montmorency
Riedquat
choxorn
Caius
Seon
Diana Abnoba
Ibn-Khaldun
Elite Ferret
Visorslash
townhughthom

Dead
robbiecon, town, killed Night One.
B_Ray, Mafia, lynched Day Two.
edse, town, killed Night Two.
Jarema, town, lynched Day Three.
rickinator9, town, killed Night Three.
Chaotix, Mafia, lynched Day Four.
Major Robert Dump, town, killed Night Four.
Montmorency, town, lynched Day Five.

Time remaining: .

Let's go over Day One again, friends of the friends.

Scum are B_Ray and Chaotix. Re-read day one knowing this.

Here's the interesting stuff I found:






Vote: johnhughthom

There is no space between your name and your player number. I demand an explanation.

Right off the bat, Chaotix man votes for townhughthom. Why should we lynch townhughthom? More to the point, why should I? He's entertaining.


I demand that he not give in to your demands, or else I will vote him instead of you.

Vote: Chaotix.

Pizza man bussed Chaotix man too!

WHY U NO GIVE PIZZA MAN CREDIT FOR BUS CHAT-O-IX?


In the interest of reaching a consensus, vote: edse :smug2:

Squirrel!


Why would you be interested in such a thing so early?

Voting one scumbag, pointing out badness of behavior of the other. Day One.


vote: B_Ray for being scum-flavoured

This WHY LAZY MCCROW NOT SCUM. EVEN THOUGH HE INSIST VOTE PIZZA MAN


Vote: Bsmith

haven't voted for him in a while.

This what Visor do day one.


Vote: B_Ray

THIS WHY DIANA NOT SCUM, EVEN THOUGH SHE INSIST VOTE PIZZA MAN



DAY ONE
There was no lynch today.

The votes are:
Goatherder: Montmorency
johnhughthom: Chaotix
Visorslash: Jarema
Chaotix: Askthepizzaguy
Riedquat: Choxorn
Choxorn: Darth Feather
edse: Ibn-Khaldun; B_Ray
Elite Ferret: edse
kumquat: BSmith
Montmorency: rickinator9
Ibn-Khaldun: Caius
rickinator 9: Elite Ferret
Makrell: Seon
Seon: johnhughthom
johnhughscum: Chaotix
B_Ray: LazyMcCrow; Diana Abnoba
townhughthom: johnhughthom
Lazy_mccow: Makrell
BSmith: Visorslash
Choxorn: kumquat

Not voting:
Double A, robbiecon, Major Robert Dump; Montmorency


Everyone is still alive!

Note where scumbags are voting. Not in a big hurry to save B_Ray, because B_Ray is saving himself.

But look where Pizza is voting and what he did day one.

Next, Pizza latch on B_Ray and ensure he dies. After voting Chaotix man D1.

Pizza scumbag? No think so.

Show that kind brilliance before. Pizza rules.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Derp. His vote threw me off…

unvote; vote: Elite Ferret. This is an absolutely useless reason, and another pile on the speedwagon.

BSmith, Why U No Help Pizza Man lynch Visor who try kill Bsmith D1?

[Riedquat]

BSmith, Why U No Help Pizza Man lynch Visor who try kill Bsmith D1?

Are you talking like Tarzan and myself or its just my imagination? :inquisitive:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Are you talking like Tarzan and myself or its just my imagination? :inquisitive:

It's my continuation of the WHY U NO guy meme. (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/y-u-no-guy)

Visor's super pissed his bussing of Chaotix isn't making him appear holy. I know how he feels. I mean, you throw your last remaining partner under the bus and you expect a certain grace period, but no, Pizzaguy is a butthole like that.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Continuation of Serious Analysis Mode: PART TWO

Day Two- The Re-lynchening

Gosh Pizza, you're like Buzz Killington over here.




Me too, but it doesn't matter really, chances are low we will have a 6 votes consensus anyway. :hide:
Unless you are scum and you want to know wether you can kill. Fish FoS: B_Ray

This why Darth Feather NOT REALLY Sith Lord.


Vote: B_Ray

For reasons unknown to me.

See? If Visor upset he get votes, why he still vote me? Surely I deserve the same shield of holy don'tvoteme protection as he... or wait, nobody does. It's a mafia game. Doing the unexpected is what scumbags have to do or this becomes too easy for everyone, not just pizza.


B_Ray was scum yesterday and therefore must be scum today.
That's science.
vote: B_Ray

Still wrong about Pizza man, but I feel like highlighting Lazy's once-glorious contributions to the game.


vote: B_Ray

For trying so hard to kill poor edse yesterday.

Seriously, why u lynch Elite Ferret. he's ELITE for gosh sakes.


Eh... I don't like these bandwagons. Sure, we've got nothing better to fall back on, but it's letting the scum make easy votes and slip through undetected.

Vote: Elite Ferret

Like this one. And johnhughscum too.

Chatoix no like it when Elite Ferret try kill his partner. Chatoix try kill Elite Ferret for such impudence.

Die, Elite Ferret, Die! Says scumbag.

Mean "the Elite Ferret, The!" in German.

German? Proves Chaotix is evil. That and his flipping scum. That too.


Aren't you doing exactly the same voting EF? :inquisitive:

Vote: jhs

Referring to Chaotix man in this post.


Vote: B_Ray still think he is scum.

What is up with your post Monty? Is it part of your role in the game (:shrug:), or a power mafia has to make you say it (:inquisitive:), or are you just acting strange again (:laugh4:)? FOS: Monty until he can explain this.

Diana being the exquisite scum hunter I taught her to be.

Well, let's be honest, she was brilliant long before she met me. She saves people's lives for a living. Literally.


Vote: Bsmith

haven't voted for him in a while.

B_Ray is toast, and has already hung it up. Visor has nothing to contribute to the game thus far but a second vote on BSmith which goes nowhere.

(He's helping us catch scum, somehow.)


That was Day Two. Want to keep going?

[BSmith]

unvote. Yes, let's keep going.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Continuation of Serious Analysis Mode: PART THREE

Day Three- The Return of the Tie-ening




Two votes does not a bandwagon make, friend.

Obviously in this case the bandwagon was the right choice after all, which makes me look bad after the fact.

Anyway, I never claimed to hate bandwagons themselves. What I do hate is when a bandwagon gets so far ahead in the beginning of the round that it becomes insurmountable by mid-way. It's better to have choices to be able to adapt to new developments later in the phase. B_Ray had four votes on him before anyone else had two, which is why I tried to bump up a contender.

Chaotix man not trying save scum partner B_Ray, just upset his Miranda rights were violated. In a mafia game!


It's better to have choices to be able to adapt to new developments later in the phase

but it can also work for mafia advantage

Jarema correctly points out why Chaotix is full of carp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cyprinus_carpio.jpeg).


Whyfor did not any of these people get murderized?

Askthepizzaguy; Montmorency; Lazy McCrow; Elite Ferret; Diana Abnoba

Pizza man assumed these folks would be the first murder victims after B_Ray hung, because they hung B_Ray.

Leaving these folks alive hazardous to scum health. Note that I went after two of them, pursuing that theory that perhaps they didn't get murdered because one of them is the murderer and wants to hide among them. That being said, seems obvious to me now, it was just a blunder or an ill-conceived gambit to leave said players alive.


Impossible. I've already been scum working with Diana at least four times off the top of my head [FightforInishmoreTheOrgMafiaLegendOfZeldaCapoIV] so a fifth time would be just overkill.

And I bet that's not even all of the instances. Kind of frightening when I think about it.

Vote: Diana probably scum this time.

Begins pursuit of princess Diana.

Let's be honest though, I'm always pursuing her. :eyebrows:


So you're saying Diana voted for a scum - despite being scum. So you're saying she's on a different team? Seems you know too much. vote: ATPG

This where LazyMcCrow's mind implodes. It's a sad, spectacular thing to witness.


Edse was obviously considered a good idea by B_Ray, so depending on whether who voted first...

Which IK didn't, so He is obviosuly not scum with BRay, no scum team would be that obvious.

Vote: Chatoix Mafiatiox Chaotix

Too easy a vote for me here. The guniness sings for thee, Chaotix.

Visor is the first person to go after Chaotix, after I did.


Though I must admit I am tempted to vote BSmith again. :tongue:

Choxorn is another I would FoS;.

But indicates he's ready to change his vote. Already? That took eleven minutes.


Damn underlined instead of bolding: vote: Darth Feather for underlining instead of voting

But as he is not scum I am going to unvote, Vote: Chaotix. Defend yourself.

Feather drops the hammer. Calls Visor's bluff.

At this point, Visorslash can't just go ooooooh wait a minute. Wasn't being serious with this vote on Chaotix. Let's uh, move my vote now.

That would be scummy. Visor just has to sit tight and hope this doesn't get worse.


Why is Chaotix mafia?

He's choxxy, you see?

Let's be honest, Chaotix just pulled this stuff when B_Ray was getting wagon'ed. So yeah, this raises an eyebrow. choxorn wants to know why Chaotix man getting votes.

I'll keep an eye on choxxy. But see what he does later!


I do agree with the FOS and even the votes on Chaotix, but Jarema's post just pinged me, so...

Vote: Jarema
Your logic makes no sense to me, you didn't vote Darth Feather because he is "acting in a way that attracts much attention", but so is MRD, but you voted for him. This sounds to me like a mafia trying to come up with a reason to vote someone, instead of a townie trying to find scum IMHO.

BTW, Pizza, what is up with you, no logic at all in your post. That's not like you . FOS Pizza.

Diana keeps suspicion on Chaotix man, which is good.


ITT:

Darth Feather: Chatoix, I think yous are the mafia. Defend yourself.
Visorslash: Agreed, Choatix is mafia. Defend yourself, @Chotoaxz.

Chaotix: Vote: johnhughscum

Chaotix man reaction to pressure, vote same guy again.



At this point, wild bandwagon appears!

Hits Jarema with 4 votes.

It's super effective!

MRD, THT, and rickinator arrive, pile on Diana's vote, and spares Chaotix man.


You are the scummiest link. Goodbye.

Unvote, Vote: Chaotix

Bingo! This why choxxy so not mafia.


Err.. busy weekend, if there is still time unvote; vote: Chaotix

No, but Riedquat, yeah. This why Riedquat townie.


Current tally:
Diana Abnoba: Askthepizzaguy (1)
Askthepizzaguy: Lazy McCrow (1)
Chaotix: Visorslash; Darth Feather; Choxorn; Riedquat (4)
Makrell: Montmorency (1)
Majro Robert Dump: Jarema (1)
Jarema: Diana Abnoba; Major Robert Dump; johnhughthom; rickinator9 (4)
johnhughthom: Chaotix (1)
Darth Feather: Seon (1)
Visorslash: Ibn-Khaldun (1)

abstain: Double A
We have a tie. So, tiebreaker round until I get home tomorrow.

At this point, Chaotix saves himself, and I wagon with him. The esteemed Diana joins in.

Feather votes Chaos man. Jarema votes Chaos man.

LazyMcCrow votes Jarema. THT votes Jarema. EF votes Jarema.

BSMITH VOTES CHAOTIX! GASP

Monty votes Jarema. Makrell votes Jarema.

Jarema dies, flips town.

But let's not forget our nearly heroes: Feather, Choxorn, Reidquat.

Visorslash does not re-vote. He's sort of in the predicament where he can't unvote Chaotix, because that would draw attention to himself. The point of the vote is distancing. But in the tie, he doesn't re-establish his vote on Chaotix.

Rickinator is murdered, not anyone on the Chaotix wagon. This indicates that the scum were spooked by Chaotix' near-death experience, and don't want to draw attention to him again.

Let's see if that plays out on the next day.


At this point, it's kind of obvious to me that there are lots of townies doing their townie thing.

Scum are not eager to bus each other right after B_Ray's death, so it makes sense that Visor indicates other people he wants to vote for, hoping a choxorn or BSmith gets votes instead.

When Feather hammers Chaotix, Visor is in a situation where he can't move his vote or the whole gambit implodes.

So he never re-votes Chaotix in the tie.

[Askthepizzaguy]

BSmith, Visor really wants to kill you. You really no want kill him back for it?

Shall I continue with the prosecutions!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Continuation of Serious Analysis Mode: EPISODE FOUR: A NEW HOPE

Day Four- Score and Seven years ago


Vote: Visorslash

For being mafia.

BOOOOOOOMSHAKALAKA

Pizzaguy is on FIRE!


Vote: Chaotix

Chaotix nearly just died and flipped scum. So he's in serious trouble.

And right away, Pizza is all over Visorslash.

Only thing left to do: Distance.

If one scum dies, the other looks good.


This explains why Visor is persistent. He's gotta give either himself, or Chaotix, townie cred.


Vote: ATPG Why do you think Visor is mafia?

WHY U NO THINK VISOR IS MAFIA?


Must......fight .......temptation.....to vote.......Montmorency.

Vote: chaotix. You are still guilty IMO.

Oh Feather. We all get that temptation. The church tells us it's a sin, but I believe it is a holy calling.



Vote: ATPG Why do you think Visor is mafia?

1. There are mafia in this game
2. I am not mafia
3. Ergo, I should vote for someone besides myself.

This should win the brilliancy prize.


I agree with ATPG.

Vote: Visorslash

NICE.


vote: Visorslash. He almost always has a read on Jarema and is vocal about it. This time there was silence and an innocent got lynched.

NICE.


Vote: Chaotix 3:3 Thats better!

NICE!!!


Eventually, vote is tied between Chaotix, scumbag extraordinaire, and Visorslash, suspect extraordinaire.


Vote: johnhughscum

The only right answer.

Chaotix doesn't really want to mutually bus, just distance. Ergo, he keeps voting for John. Less data to be gained by town when he flips, that way.

John is townhughthom for a reason.


Unvote, Vote: Chaotix

Either a scum or a townie that has grown tired of living. Either way, he should be lynched.


Vote: Chaotix
No this is the only right answer. (:shrug:)

Townies not ashamed to pull the trigger on Chaotix.



I don't like this one bit.

Unvote, Vote: Visorslash

What makes me so lynchable anyway?Tricorner hat.

Knows he's going down. Time to mutually bus.

I, of course, provide the only commentary worth reading.


Vote: Chaotix, you are so lynchable because you are mafia.

Townie hero Feather to the rescue!



Oh, but this one already did!

You're a big chicken, Elite Ferret. You and Makrell and Seon and Double A and even johnhughscum, and the abstaining players too. You're all too afraid to put your vote on a candidate that actually matters! Come on, finish me off already why don't ya. Don't leave me here one vote away from tying it up.

Or, if you're feeling dangerous, give Visorslash a vote. Make things interesting!



Chaotix is totally boned, but Visor dying wouldn't change matters. They're both so very scummy, and both on the verge of death.

But trump card: Both are trying to kill the other. Scum wouldn't do that, would they? Not when they're both already about to die.

Not for townie cred. No sir!


The opportunity is too good to pass up.

Unvote; Vote: Visorslash

God is great.

Monty ties it up, which can cause a runoff vote.

Several people vote Chaotix, and I unvote Visorslash. Counts the same way as a vote on Chaotix. But I don't get all huffy about my super duper contribution to the Chaotix death.

Chaotix dies. And Visor looks townie. For a while.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Continuation of Serious Analysis Mode: EPISODE FIVE: THE PIZZAGUY STRIKES BACK

Night Four- After the bussing



Man, with those assumptions I could run circles around this town. All I have to do is throw a partner under the bus and before you know it, I'm on the most likely innocent list.

But I know you folks are too clever for such cheap chicanery, so I'm going to keep trying to keep my partners alive and failing at it.

Hi Visorslash!!! ~:wave:

[Chaotix]

BSmith, Visor really wants to kill you. You really no want kill him back for it?

Shall I continue with the prosecutions!

Yes! Please continoot, this very entertaining.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Continuation of Serious Analysis Mode: EPISODE SIX: RETURN OF THE SCUMGUY

Day Five- Time to kill the Pizza man for his INSOLENCE!!!


Vote: Askthepizzaguy

It's either him, seon, monty or tht.

Yeah....

Yeah.... this is just...

Yeah.

I'm so townie now. PIZZAGUY WHO TRIED TO KILL ME MUST DIE!



Later:



DAY FIVE

Askthepizzaguy was lynched for reasons which are... well, let me put it to you like this.

We gave a monkey a parachute, and pushed him out of an airplane. Then, we lynched the first person that the monkey touched. It was not our finest hour.

Nevertheless, the silly townsfolk learned that Askthepizzaguy was an Innocent.


Living
BSmith
Double A
LazyMcCrow
Darth Feather
Makrell
Montmorency
Riedquat
choxorn
Caius
Seon
Diana Abnoba
Ibn-Khaldun
Elite Ferret
Visorslash
townhughthom

Dead
robbiecon, town, killed Night One.
B_Ray, Mafia, lynched Day Two.
edse, town, killed Night Two.
Jarema, town, lynched Day Three.
rickinator9, town, killed Night Three.
Chaotix, Mafia, lynched Day Four.
Major Robert Dump, town, killed Night Four.
Askthepizzaguy, town, killed In our imagination.



Proof of why you leave me alive even when I look like a total scummy jackass.

Because I make you laugh.


Man the mental barricades! The Mod Powers have been unleashed!

....and... unvote: vote: Montmorency?

Pizza's obvious joke causes Lazy McCrow's brain to asplode.

This also why Lazy is townie. He's innocent, as I said, in the fullest sense.


Anyway. Monty and Pizza wagons take off. And I'm not satisfied. I'm not happy Monty is going after me, but I'm looking for someone else to vote for because he's not my top suspect.

I'm looking for someone who is trying to off me. BSmith arrives.


vote: ATPG... I believe that ties it. With my luck this game that will mean Monty is scum. ~;)

So, I immediately try to cause any wagon besides myself and Monty, and I pull scummy trick number 697 to spare myself, just in case... convince Monty to unvote.

And the rest is history.

But if y'all lynch Visorslash, we can end this game and do the heroic townie parade.


And to give it the authentic, personalized Pizza guaran-damn-tee:

If Visor flips townie, I will self-vote for the rest of the game.

[Darth Feather]

Are you certain you are not a politician or a lawyer?

At 16:00 GMT+1 I was convinced visorslash was innocent
Now it is 19:57 and I have my serious doubts.

vote: Visorslash: you better be right.

[Darth Feather]

Woooops, forgot to unvote;vote: Visorslash

[Askthepizzaguy]

vote: Visorslash: you better be right.

If anyone remembers Askthepizzaguy Mafia one,

I am doing the equivalent of betting 100 credits. If I am wrong, I don't deserve to continue play.

(In that game you died if you bet all your credits on a suspect and they didn't die/flip scum)

[Chaotix]

Bahahaha I love how everybody complains about how people blindly follow ATPG and then they just do it all over again.

How do you make them do it, Pizza Man? Is it some form of mind control, or are they really that dumb?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Bahahaha I love how everybody complains about how people blindly follow ATPG and then they just do it all over again.

How do you make them do it, Pizza Man? Is it some form of mind control, or are they really that dumb?

Actually, and notably, the only one complaining about it was your scum buddy.

Chaotix man, bussing works on noobs. The problem with bussing is that if I suspect bussing, I know who all the stinking mafia are.

You need a new playbook.

But no, you can't have the patented Askthepizzaguy mind-control ray. I retired it after Capo.

[Choxorn]

ASKTHEPIZZAGUY used LOGIC!

It's SUPER-EFFECTIVE!

ASKTHEPIZZAGUY used LONG TEXTWALL ANALYSIS POSTS!

It's a little bit effective.

Unvote, Vote: Visorslash

[BSmith]

vote: Visorslash. I had forgotten about the Jarema vote and his lack of normal read on him.

[Diana Abnoba]

I still don't fully trust you Pizzaman :inquisitive: (but I never do when it comes to mafia games :no: :dizzy2: :laugh4: ), but I will give you this round to prove your analysis is correct.
Vote: Visorslash

[Askthepizzaguy]

I still don't fully trust you Pizzaman :inquisitive: (but I never do when it comes to mafia games :no: :dizzy2: :laugh4: ), but I will give you this round to prove your analysis is correct.
Vote: Visorslash



9054

Why u no trust Pizzaman? I give you kisses!

Sure I lie to you about my plans in Capo, even though we on same team.
BUT THAT NOT MAKE ME DEVIOUS.

[Diana Abnoba]

Want a list? Reason why not to trust the Pizzaman-chapter 1...

[Makrell]

i am uncertain of all of this ATPG has used the same tactic as my scumbuddy, but then again i dont know much, i am mixing games i think

[El Barto]

For those inquiring about Askthepizzaguy's profession, he's a used pizza salesman by trade.

I think this is the correct tally:

Askthepizzaguy: Visorslash; Makrell; LazyMcCrow (3)
Visorslash: Ibn-Khaldun; Askthepizzaguy; Choxorn; BSmith; Diana Abnoba (5)
BSmith: Riedquat; Double A; Elite Ferret (3)
Makrell: Darth Feather (1)
Elite Ferret: johnhughthom; (1)

People not voting: Caius, Seon (2)

People voting for buns: Choxorn; Chaotix; townhughthom
People voting for cake: townhughthom

Less than four hours to update!

[LazyMcCrow]

ATPG: So, when Visorslash flips scum you get knighted or, when Visorslash flips town you get lynched.

I'm happy with that. :bow:

[El Barto]

I, in my wisdom, have decided that, since Caius hasn't posted in three days, he shall be replaced by Ishmael as soon as I've found him.

[Riedquat]

I think this is the correct tally:

Askthepizzaguy: Visorslash; Makrell; LazyMcCrow (3)
Visorslash: Ibn-Khaldun; Askthepizzaguy; Choxorn; BSmith; Diana Abnoba (5)
BSmith: Riedquat; Double A; Elite Ferret (3)
Makrell: Darth Feather (1)
Elite Ferret: johnhughthom; (1)

Sorry but... DF is voting Visor and I think nobody is voting (explicitly) for buns or cakes this time, less yet Chatoix

[Visor]

:wall: Lynch Pizza tomorrow, and stop listening to him telling you to lynch (fairly confirmed) innocents.

Pizza says jump, you say how high. :laugh4:


Visor's frustrated his bussing isn't going over like he'd hoped. That's clearly scum cracking under the absurdity of Pizzaguy.

And I was getting to the point where I was thinking of changing my vote, too. Bad Visor.

I almost never bus my partner.


Voting one scumbag, pointing out badness of behavior of the other. Day One.

Or distancing.


Visor's super pissed his bussing of Chaotix isn't making him appear holy. I know how he feels. I mean, you throw your last remaining partner under the bus and you expect a certain grace period, but no, Pizzaguy is a butthole like that.

As above. I applaud your persuasive abilities.


Still wrong about Pizza man, but I feel like highlighting Lazy's once-glorious contributions to the game.

I agree, Lazy is probably innocent. And so is Elite Ferret.


B_Ray is toast, and has already hung it up. Visor has nothing to contribute to the game thus far but a second vote on BSmith which goes nowhere.

(He's helping us catch scum, somehow.)

I actually just copied my post from Day 1. I wanted to see if it would get noticed.


Visor is the first person to go after Chaotix, after I did.

Yes, I was able to remember everyone's voting record after having too many drinks. I was drunk, I was (subtly) implied in my post. I would not be able to recall too much.


But indicates he's ready to change his vote. Already? That took eleven minutes.

I see what you did here. Take my joke seriously and imply that I would be willing to vote Choxorn/BSmith as well.


That would be scummy. Visor just has to sit tight and hope this doesn't get worse.

What? You're sniffing crayons man. You know perfectly well how I act as scum, which is why you know that I wouldn't be doing this.


Knows he's going down. Time to mutually bus.

Nobody with any scum sense mutually busses when their own death is assured. Nobody.


If Visor flips townie, I will self-vote for the rest of the game.

They better hold you to that scumbag.

[Montmorency]

And the candles are melting
Out to the aged parquet.
The rain runs down shoulders
Like silver off epaulets.
In a frenzy there fizzles
The golden champagne.
Let the past fly away,
I'm not one to complain.

In a premortal anguish
with a back-looking glance,
The scared stags bound forward
Toward the deadly advance.
Someone points his long barrel
At the innocent breast...
Let bygones be bygones,
Come what may, if it's best.

With a heartless abandon
A clever hunter takes aim
With razor-sharp arrows
Into the sunset's red flame.
In the tempest of sound
A sad note then began.
The past leaps and bounds,
Come what may, if it can.


:disappointed:

[Visor]

Auf wiedersehen town.


BSmith
Double A
Darth Feather
Askthepizzaguy
Makrell
Riedquat
choxorn
Caius
Seon
Diana Abnoba
townhughthom
These are the remaining players, minus a few. After I die, I highly advise lynching Pizzaguy, Diana/Bsmith are also good choices for the days after if the game isn't over yet.

[El Barto]

Sorry but... DF is voting Visor and I think nobody is voting (explicitly) for buns or cakes this time, less yet Chatoix
You are indeed correct as to the first part of your posted statement, but the rest doesn't hold.
Couple minutes remaining.

Askthepizzaguy: Visorslash; Makrell; LazyMcCrow (3)
Visorslash: Ibn-Khaldun; Askthepizzaguy; Choxorn; BSmith; Diana Abnoba; Darth Feather (6)
BSmith: Riedquat; Double A; Elite Ferret (3)
Elite Ferret: johnhughthom; (1)

People not voting: Caius, Seon (2)

People voting for buns: Choxorn; Chaotix; townhughthom
People voting for cake: townhughthom

[El Barto]

DAY SIX

Visorslash was lynched.
Askthepizzaguy: Visorslash; Makrell; LazyMcCrow (3)
Visorslash: Ibn-Khaldun; Askthepizzaguy; Choxorn; BSmith; Diana Abnoba; Darth Feather (6)
BSmith: Riedquat; Double A; Elite Ferret (3)
Elite Ferret: johnhughthom; (1)

People not voting: Caius, Seon (2)

People voting for buns: Choxorn; Chaotix; townhughthom
People voting for cake: townhughthom
He was town.


Living
BSmith
Double A
LazyMcCrow
Darth Feather
Askthepizzaguy
Makrell
Montmorency
Riedquat
choxorn
Caius --> Ishmael
Seon
Diana Abnoba
Ibn-Khaldun
Elite Ferret
townhughthom

Dead
robbiecon, town, killed Night One.
B_Ray, Mafia, lynched Day Two.
edse, town, killed Night Two.
Jarema, town, lynched Day Three.
rickinator9, town, killed Night Three.
Chaotix, Mafia, lynched Day Four.
Major Robert Dump, town, killed Night Four.
Montmorency, town, lynched Day Five.
Visorslash, town, lynched Day Six.

Caius has been replaced by Ishmael.

Time remaining: .

[Visor]

Would you look at that. How surprising. Now lynch Pizza tomorrow.

[BSmith]

I was going to switch at the last minute but it wouldn't have done any good. $10 on me being killed.tonight. I an no longer useful to pizza alive.

[Chaotix]

Ouch... that's gotta sting, huh?

And now they're gonna lynch you tomorrow. That's two rounds down the drain, and it's all your fault.

If I were you, ATPG, I would've just said I'd eat my tri-corner hat if I was wrong. There's no way it could taste as bad as this.

[BSmith]

Chaotix man, bussing works on noobs. The problem with bussing is that if I suspect bussing, I know who all the stinking mafia are.

“I know who all the stinking mafia are.”

This is a classic ATPG Easter egg. Something that he can say “I even told you I was scum in thread and I got away with it” later on.

[Choxorn]

I would say I don't believe ATPG would ever do something so obvious, but, actually, this is ATPG we're talking about. There's absolutely nothing he doesn't have the lightsaber-crystal-balls to attempt.

[LazyMcCrow]

Ouch... that's gotta sting, huh?

And now they're gonna lynch you tomorrow. That's two rounds down the drain, and it's all your fault.

If I were you, ATPG, I would've just said I'd eat my tri-corner hat if I was wrong. There's no way it could taste as bad as this.

Scumbuddies

[Askthepizzaguy]

Bah.

Well, that was my best theory. My apologies.

It's better to take a stab at it than just sit there going woe is me I'm gonna die.

[Askthepizzaguy]

“I know who all the stinking mafia are.”

If Visorslash had flipped scum, that would have been a pretty awesome round.

I get em wrong too. Besides, all you folks about to vote me are about to get it wrong. I'll be sitting here smoking my cigar, welcoming you to the club.

[Ishmael]

Well I'm here, but I'm not actually sure what my alignment is yet. Schrodinger's mafioso, if you will.

I gather we're all lynching ATPG tomorrow? Are there any other noteworthy suspects I should be aware of?

[Ferret]

I still think ATPG is town.

[Makrell]

i do think ATPG is maifia, this is his usual mafia behavior

[Choxorn]

ATPG doesn't have "usual mafia behavior." Or "usual town behavior."

[Seon]

ATPG doesn't have "usual mafia behavior." Or "usual town behavior."

That might actually be because I'be yet to see a game in which ATPG was town and actually lived for longer than 3-4 days.

[El Barto]

NIGHT SIX

Diana Abnoba was killed.
She was Innocent.

Living
BSmith
Double A
LazyMcCrow
Darth Feather
Askthepizzaguy
Makrell
Riedquat
choxorn
Ishmael
Seon

Ibn-Khaldun
Elite Ferret
townhughthom

Dead
robbiecon, town, killed Night One.
B_Ray, Mafia, lynched Day Two.
edse, town, killed Night Two.
Jarema, town, lynched Day Three.
rickinator9, town, killed Night Three.
Chaotix, Mafia, lynched Day Four.
Major Robert Dump, town, killed Night Four.
Montmorency, town, lynched Day Five.
Visorslash, town, lynched Day Six.
Diana Abnoba, town, killed Night Six.

The Night Phase after this Day Phase will be a double-length one.

Time remaining: .

[Seon]

Vote: pizza guy.

[Ishmael]

If anyone remembers Askthepizzaguy Mafia one,

I am doing the equivalent of betting 100 credits. If I am wrong, I don't deserve to continue play.

(In that game you died if you bet all your credits on a suspect and they didn't die/flip scum)

Do I need to say more?

vote: ATPG

Longer explanation: I think there's a less than even chance that ATPG is scum, but firstly I don't have any better suspects; and secondly, he'll be a distraction for other lynches throughout the game if he survives, splitting the vote and giving the mafia a better chance of influencing the lynch. Let's get him out of the way and move on.

[Choxorn]

Vote: Askvaard von Pizzaguy

[Darth Feather]

vote: Askthepizzaguy

Is he guilty? Probably not.
Does he deserve to be lynched? In my eyes: yes.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

[Askthepizzaguy]

Can we hammer this round dead early, please, o glorious game host? I think this lynch is going to be unanimous and I'd like to move things along.

[Montmorency]

Who can justly complain when just punishment overtakes the sinner?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Who can justly complain when just punishment overtakes the sinner?

There's no such thing as a sin in a mafia game.

[Makrell]

vote: Askthepizzaguy

Is he guilty? Probably not.
Does he deserve to be lynched? In my eyes: yes.
why would someone deserve punishment when they are town, then it is just a wasted lynch?

Vote: atpg

[Askthepizzaguy]

why would someone deserve punishment when they are town, then it is just a wasted lynch?

Vote: atpg

If Darth Feather needs me to die, so be it. He's been a scholar and a gentleman, and I would gladly give my head as payment for my mistake.

However, I still like him more than I like you. You're pretending to be reasonable.

Townies are a wild, panicky mob of unreasonable, paranoid people. You suck at pretending to be one.

[LazyMcCrow]

vote: ATPG. At this stage I'm not 100% convinced ATPG is scum - I still think its a good shout - but I can't think of a thing he's done so far that would make him town, or a thing that he's done so far that he wouldn't do as scum.

[Ishmael]

If Darth Feather needs me to die, so be it. He's been a scholar and a gentleman, and I would gladly give my head as payment for my mistake.

However, I still like him more than I like you. You're pretending to be reasonable.

Townies are a wild, panicky mob of unreasonable, paranoid people. You suck at pretending to be one.

Don't forget prideful. We don't like the idea of you getting away with such a blatant performance, in the event that you are scum. It would make us look silly.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Don't forget prideful. We don't like the idea of you getting away with such a blatant performance, in the event that you are scum. It would make us look silly.

Don't play this game like a fraidy cat.

If you're playing specifically to avoid me making you look bad, you look far worse in my eyes.

You're playing the man, not the game. Play the game, play the situation.

This round is a huge wasted gaping hole. There's no discussion, no scumhunting whatsoever. In your desire to make sure Pizzaguy doesn't make you look silly, you're deliberately playing poorly.

I went out on a limb and said X players are town, and X player is likely to be scum. I would like to see others doing so.

By all means, vote your suspect. But playing to avoid being shamed by another Pizzaguy rope-a-dope, just means I've already defeated you in every game we'll ever play together. You're afraid to gamble on me and lose now.

Observe my play so far this game- some of it was good. I was not afraid to vote B_ray and Chaotix on absolutely no reasoning. I was not afraid to make cases. I wasn't afraid to take risks, and gamble big on being wrong.

Be wrong, townies. It's okay to be wrong. But please, show some cojones while you're being townies.

If you are lynching me because wow, wouldn't it suck if I were mafia all along, but you don't really think I'm mafia, then what in the blue hades are you doing? You're ignoring your gut, and your mind, and playing based on fear.

What are you afraid of? Looking silly?

Didn't I look really stinking silly yesterday after being really, really wrong about Visorslash?

I'm not afraid to be wrong. You folks shouldn't be either.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Do me a favor- everyone keep voting me. Don't you dare move those votes.

But begin discussion as if I were already dead, and I've flipped town or mafia.

Start planning your next moves. You're wasting valuable time. That's a fact, regardless of my alignment [which should be obvious to all, is town.]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Having fulfilled my contractually obligated self-vote this round,

unvote: askthepizzaguy

Now then. What say we put on our big boy pants, brush off the stink of failure from last round, and start over?

Throwing in the towel is for wimps. And if I'm breaking promises, too bad. You'll get over it.

Vote: Makrell

On to the next suspect.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Allow me to help you reboot your brains, hobbitses. Once you have killed Askthepizzaguy and taken his precioussss, and you'd like to continue normal play, check out this post.



BSmith
Double A
LazyMcCrow
Darth Feather
Askthepizzaguy
Makrell
Riedquat
choxorn
Ishmael
Seon
Ibn-Khaldun
Elite Ferret
townhughthom

These are the townies I am near-certain of. And I have explained why, throughout the game.

1) BSmith- wouldn't have made that error as scum. And his performance if it were a performance was game-winning. I don't believe it was acting. Keep voting for me, Smithy. Tomorrow I trust you will find the scum.
2) LazyMcCrow- Punked him good. It felt good. But he's an innocent.
3) Darth Feather- He's either a big damn hero, or the most cleverly disguised villain I've seen in a long time. He's been very correct on a lot of things so far, and it was only my persuasive abilities that pushed him onto Visor anyway, which he suspected was innocent.
4) Choxorn- I give him real townie creds for the timing of his moves against Chaotix. This is where I am less than 99% certain, because this level of acting is within his capabilities. He's a great player. But I buy townie creds for him for that.
5) Riedquat- good townie performance so far. 90% clear.
6) townhughthom- About 85% clear. It might have been Chaotix' idea to hard bus him all game long, and town was willing to go along with it. I can't say I'm won over completely by such a move. But he's too entertaining to pursue anytime soon, and I have bigger fish to fry.

I guessed wrong on Visorslash. But the above folks have demonstrated their townie-ness, to a great degree.

This is why I'm not particularly concerned about being lynched today. I have a very narrow playing field left for scums to hide in. I am willing to fire with all guns blazing, and miss a few times. As long as you get the scums hiding within these gaps.


Now then, in order of likelihood of being scum:

1) Caius who was replaced by Ishmael.

"But the murders continued even though Caius was inactive"

It's standard policy for hosts to let partners control the murder of their inactive partner. But the fact is that there is a strong possibility that the game would have continued with Caius being used as a puppet by his dead comrades.

That doesn't work in the endgame. Because Caius can't vote.


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And a very long distance away from the number one suspect:

2) Makrell.

Why am I voting him first? Because my number one suspect is only my number one suspect because he was replaced into the game. And that's lame.

I'm giving Caius/Ishmael a "fair chance" to eliminate all the players that would consider voting for him, leaving those silly enough to let him survive the endgame. That's me being a good sport. But make no mistake, Caius/Ishmael is probably your last scumbag.

Makrell I suspected prior and have no reason not to continue suspecting.


And somewhat further down the line:

Tied for 3) Seon and Ibn-Khaldun

Can't clear them and no reason not to suspect them.

Finally,

4) Double A

I like the cut of his jib. But I can't clear him.


And Elite Ferret I refuse to vote for. Not because I can clear him, but because he was willing to back me up when nobody else would. He technically should still be a suspect but I won't even vote for him on the final round if I made it that far, which I won't.


Don't make me be the only townie acting like one this round. If you lynch me, you owe it to me to start hunting scums the way I would if I were still alive.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Do I need to say more?

You will have to if you intend to survive this game.

I'll be calling for your head every single round after I am dead.

:mellow:

I hope you know a good exorcist.

[Ishmael]

Do me a favor- everyone keep voting me. Don't you dare move those votes.

But begin discussion as if I were already dead, and I've flipped town or mafia.

Start planning your next moves. You're wasting valuable time. That's a fact, regardless of my alignment [which should be obvious to all, is town.]

Whilst my earlier comment was somewhat facetious, I do agree with your suggestion. As a replacement I obviously haven't been following this thread as assiduously as the rest of you, but on the plus side I shouldn't be as biased. Thus, my list of less suspicious people, determined after 11 pages of exhaustive analysis (after which I got bored), arranged roughly in order of decreasing likeliness of scumminess:

Lazy McCrow, I-K, JHT/THT, Darth Feather, Riedquat

Needless to say, this all but guarantees at least one of the above is mafia, but personally I see no need to go lynching any of the above in the near future. Elite Ferret, meanwhile, came of as scummy as hell, and I would definitely consider lynching him next round (unless he conclusively cleared himself in the past 9 pages). His voting record comes off quite strongly as backing up his partners at first, but then bussing them when it was clear they would die soon. It worth pointing out that other than ATPG he is the only surviving player on the B_Ray lynch (where he was fourth on, with the next highest player having only two votes against them).

You guys won't mind if I just copy and paste this next day phase, will you? I'm too lazy to rewrite it :beam:.

EDIT: Heh, I find it amusing that we simultaneously came to diametrically opposite conclusions about Elite Ferret. Seon would be next on my list, mind, so we have that in common.

Although reading through that again, you don't really rule him out, but rather just want to reward him for backing you up, on your incorrect lynches. Draw your own conclusions.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Although reading through that again, you don't really rule him out, but rather just want to reward him for backing you up, on your incorrect lynches.

Indeed. A fellow townie who helps me kill the things I want to kill is going to help town win the game. And the scumbag who pretends to do so, amuses me.

[Double A]

Having fulfilled my contractually obligated self-vote this round,

unvote: askthepizzaguy

Now then. What say we put on our big boy pants, brush off the stink of failure from last round, and start over?

Throwing in the towel is for wimps. And if I'm breaking promises, too bad. You'll get over it.

Vote: Makrell

On to the next suspect.

I don't trust you, Pizza, but you're absolutely right.

Now that I've stated the glaringly obvious on every accord, vote: Makrell. Pizzawagon rounds NEVER result in anything productive, and it's ridiculous to see me of all people acknowledge that while everyone else just lets the round pass by without as much as a mayhaps.

While it's true that, if anything, Pizza has some normal patterns, I'm a believer in the fact that analyzing those patterns is a dead end because Pizza's already analyzed them and come up with appropriate countermeasures. As much as he thinks about other people, he's surely given at least half as much time to think about himself. At this point, sure, he's just trying to save his own skin, but that's because it would be a wasted lynch - that's right, folks, I'm going to bet my hat (which is really a rather nice piece of clothing) that Pizza's a townie. While I wouldn't do the same for Makrell and him being scum, it's sure as hell a better choice than just sitting by and wasting another round because Pizza is Pizza.

[Montmorency]

I'm still mad about that time when I had Pizza pegged as scum right off the bat - and he talked me out of voting him in the end.

I know a scum-Pizza when I see one.


While it's true that, if anything, Pizza has some normal patterns, I'm a believer in the fact that analyzing those patterns is a dead end because Pizza's already analyzed them and come up with appropriate countermeasures.

This falls through because there's a limit to the evasions he could conceivably perform without becoming someone completely other than Pizza. Humans repeat, Double A - even Pizza.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Query, Doublest of A's

Would you allow Caius/Ishmael to survive the game, or would you ensure he gets lynched before endgame?

I'm sure he will wish to know this information.

[Darth Feather]

I don't think Elite Ferret is guilty. As Riedquat correctly stated:

Remember that scummy post from Chaotix from day 2(?) about him not liking these bandwagons trying to detract votes from B_Ray? He voted EF there... you don't try to save your partner voting for the other...

My top suspects are:
1) Makrell (don't know why, but I am getting a really bad scum vibe of him)
2) Seon. (Got no information whatsoever on him AFAIK)
3) DoubleA

I give Ibn-Khaldun a little credit for voting for the same person as Chaotix. (would a maffiosi really be thàt obvious)

If nobody out of those three is scum, there has been some great mafia-play in this game, with clever bussery or masterly deception.

EDIT: wow, 4 x-posts i must have taken ages to write this.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm still mad about that time when I had Pizza pegged as scum right off the bat - and he talked me out of voting him in the end.

I know a scum-Pizza when I see one.

Why are we never mad about all the times we had Pizza pegged as scum, and everyone agreed with it, and everyone was wrong?

We are selectively upset about only certain failures. I find that amusing.

And the statement: "I know a scum-Pizza when I see one." This is the statement of a man too confident in his own abilities.

And trust me, I know a thing or two about overconfidence.

I could sell you your own mother's liver and make you eat it, Montmorency.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If nobody out of those three is scum, there has been some great mafia-play in this game, with clever bussery or masterly deception.

Or simple, unavoidable absentia.

[Double A]

Query, Doublest of A's

Would you allow Caius/Ishmael to survive the game, or would you ensure he gets lynched before endgame?

I'm sure he will wish to know this information.

While it is fairly dickish to lynch a guy who just replaced in because of stuff his replacee did, there are plenty of other dickish things mafia players do. Of course, I have no freaking idea what your case behind Caius is, and I personally don't have one or the attention span to do more than look up his posts and point out a few oddities. My general policy is to wait a day or two (depending on how many people are alive and how many kills occur every night) then see what changes.

[Makrell]

this is my townie behaviour

but but

vote: ishmael

[Montmorency]

Why are we never mad about all the times we had Pizza pegged as scum, and everyone agreed with it, and everyone was wrong?

We are selectively upset about only certain failures. I find that amusing.

I remember multiple instances of trusting you, only to see you flip scum. Otherwise, when I had you pegged, you turned out to be scum. When I paid you no heed throughout the game, you turned out town.

I challenge you to find one instance of me incorrectly labeling and pursuing you as scum other than Three Wolf Moon. I triple-dog-dare you to find a single other game.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I remember multiple instances of trusting you, only to see you flip scum. Otherwise, when I had you pegged, you turned out to be scum. When I paid you no heed throughout the game, you turned out town.

I challenge you to find one instance of me incorrectly labeling and pursuing you as scum other than Three Wolf Moon. I triple-dog-dare you to find a single other game.

Busy accusing the scum. You continue focusing solely on Pizzaman, and having that policy be a failure.

[Askthepizzaguy]

this is my townie behaviour

but but

vote: ishmael

I believe you need to unvote me first.

[Darth Feather]

11 pages of exhaustive analysis .

On the cool 80 post per page modus, you didn't have to do a 11 pages analysis, because there are only 8.
:laugh4:

[Ishmael]

On the cool 80 post per page modus, you didn't have to do a 11 pages analysis, because there are only 8.
:laugh4:

Wait, you can do that? I'll have to try it out sometime, if only for variety.

Also, Pizza, Double A raised a good point earlier which I'm curious about - what exactly was your case against me/Caius? Was there somebody else you felt should have been replaced before him?

[Askthepizzaguy]

You guys want to know my case against Ishmael/Caius?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Do you really, really want to know....

[Askthepizzaguy]

I demand that he not give in to your demands, or else I will vote him instead of you.

Vote: Chaotix.

This was my case against Chaotix.


Vote: B_Ray

For reasons unknown to me.

This was my case against B_Ray.


Vote: Caius

This was my case against Caius.




Ready?



My case against Ishmael is that he replaced Caius.

Surrender, Dorothy.

[Ishmael]

Do you really, really want to know....

Sure. I'm procrastinating, so a textwall would be welcome.

EDIT: I am disappointed by the lack of a textwall. Building us up like that - for shame.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizzaguy is evolving! Press B to cancel.

Pizzaguy became Pizzaman.

Pizzaman learned Brevity.

[Double A]

Pizzaman learned Brevity.

Pizzaman used Brevity! It's super-effective! The foe's Universe fainted!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizzaguy votes Caius, but Monty used flail. Pizzaguy took some vote damage.

Pizzaguy had to use deception to defeat Monty. It's super effective!

Visorslash used persistent accusation against Pizzaguy. Pizzaguy took some vote damage.

Pizzaguy had to use textwall to defeat Visorslash. It's super effective!

Now that these rival townies have been defeated, Pizzaman returns to voting Caius.

But wait! Caius evolved into Caiushmael!

No worries. With the XP Pizzaguy gained from the other trainer battles, Pizzaguy evolved into Pizzaman.

I challenge you, Caiushmael! You will never even make it to the Elite Four.

Let this be our final battle.

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Unvote Makrell, he's fishy, but he's stopped trying to challenge Pizzaman to a pokemon battle.

Vote: Ishmael because he's still Caius, on the inside.

[Makrell]

unvote: atpg
Vote: Ishameal

[Ishmael]

Pizzaguy votes Caius, but Monty used flail. Pizzaguy took some vote damage.

Pizzaguy had to use deception to defeat Monty. It's super effective!

Visorslash used persistent accusation against Pizzaguy. Pizzaguy took some vote damage.

Pizzaguy had to use textwall to defeat Visorslash. It's super effective!

Now that these rival townies have been defeated, Pizzaman returns to voting Caius.

But wait! Caius evolved into Caiushmael!

No worries. With the XP Pizzaguy gained from the other trainer battles, Pizzaguy evolved into Pizzaman.

I challenge you, Caiushmael! You will never even make it to the Elite Four.

Let this be our final battle.

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Unvote Makrell, he's fishy, but he's stopped trying to challenge Pizzaman to a pokemon battle.

Vote: Ishmael because he's still Caius, on the inside.

Caiushmael uses foregone conclusion!

It's not very effective....

Caiushmael, come back! Go, other townies!


unvote: atpg
Vote: Ishameal

I will accept Ishmael or Ishamael, but I do have to object to Ishameal - it brings back uncomfortable memories of my time as shark bait in The Island.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I will accept Ishmael or Ishamael, but I do have to object to Ishameal - it brings back uncomfortable memories of my time as shark bait in The Island.

I would like to introduce you to all fifteen rows of my teeth.

Hey Makrell, remember when I was that shark in that game at TWC?

How'd that end, btw.

[Double A]

I would like to introduce you to all fifteen rows of my teeth.

Hey Makrell, remember when I was that shark in that game at TWC?

How'd that end, btw.

Didn't that game bite?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Didn't that game bite?

The hunters became the hunted. :clown:

[El Barto]

Tally:

Askthepizzaguy: Seon; Ishmael; choxorn; Darth Feather; LazyMcCrow
Makrell: Double A
Ishmael: Makrell; AskthepizzaguyToo many nonvoters.

There's no such thing as a sin in a mafia game.
There is, actually.

that's right, folks, I'm going to bet my hat (which is really a rather nice piece of clothing)
Your role PM doesn't include a hat, and you cannot learn the Steal Hat Ability unless you unlearn one of your four moves (Dwarf Fortress, Procrastinate, Make Nonsensical Post, Go for a Hotdog) first. So what's it gonna be, punk? Make my (Bun)day.

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Elite Ferret

[Double A]

Tally:

Askthepizzaguy: Seon; Ishmael; choxorn; Darth Feather; LazyMcCrow
Makrell: Double A
Ishmael: Makrell; AskthepizzaguyToo many nonvoters.

There is, actually.

Your role PM doesn't include a hat, and you cannot learn the Steal Hat Ability unless you unlearn one of your four moves (Dwarf Fortress, Procrastinate, Make Nonsensical Post, Go for a Hotdog) first. So what's it gonna be, punk? Make my (Bun)day.

I stopped using Go for a Hotdog a long time ago because it's easier to just pop a lemonade or moomoo milk, and the other three are HMs.

[Ferret]

Elite Ferret, meanwhile, came of as scummy as hell, and I would definitely consider lynching him next round (unless he conclusively cleared himself in the past 9 pages). His voting record comes off quite strongly as backing up his partners at first, but then bussing them when it was clear they would die soon. It worth pointing out that other than ATPG he is the only surviving player on the B_Ray lynch (where he was fourth on, with the next highest player having only two votes against them).

Just to address the B_Ray case, I called him out as scum the day before and voted him as soon as I came online. Even if I hadn't, his lynching was far from a foregone conclusion at that point, bandwagons can easily change as we've seen in this game.

I have no idea who these 'partners' you refer to are, or how I backed them up before bussing them. Care to elaborate?

I think you guys are getting way to hung up on potential bussing. Once upon a time it may have been a good tactic to trick people into thinking you're innocent, but we're all savvy enough players to be aware of it now. What troubles me is how often people are being accused of it, if everyone but the first two on the bandwagon were bussing, then we'd have a hell of a lot of mafia. Joining a sizeable bandwagon on a scum player shouldn't be seen as an indication of guilt, it just shouldn't be taken as evidence of innocence.

As for this round, as I said before I don't think ATPG is scum. Ibn-Khaldun still heads my suspect lists for his behaviour early in the game.

Vote: Ibn-Khaldun

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ibn is way down my suspect list, but I'd be willing to join to assist you, Elite Ferret.

What's your take on Caiushmael?

[Chaotix]

Holy carp!

ATPG, you never cease to amaze me.

Not only did you get these sheep to vote your candidate to death last round with your head on the line, now that you're wrong and they should be lynching you, you have managed to convince them that you're not worth the lynch.

I don't quite understand how you do it.

I've seen this whole thing happen before through the lens of a townie and it didn't seem that impressive, but having the perspective of a dead scum I must say it is really baffling.

You need to keep this up, because it's very entertaining.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't see what's so amazing. I'm still going to be lynched today because:

Folks here don't think I'm scum but believe I "deserve" to die anyway due to the terrible, terrible crime of betting my head someone was guilty, therefore, we need to absolutely make sure I die, or else an angel loses its wings. Or something.

Those folks will outnumber/outvote the sane people. The sane people are all off pursuing their own suspects.

And because there are several suspects to pursue, the sane vote is divided, and the insane vote is united.

Just relax, Pizza still dies.

But if you thought my idea of playing this game means shut up and self-vote because I guessed wrong on Visorslash, then you've been smoking the green that's in your name, man.

[Darth Feather]

Holy carp!

ATPG, you never cease to amaze me.

Not only did you get these sheep to vote your candidate to death last round with your head on the line, now that you're wrong and they should be lynching you, you have managed to convince them that you're not worth the lynch.

I don't quite understand how you do it.

I've seen this whole thing happen before through the lens of a townie and it didn't seem that impressive, but having the perspective of a dead scum I must say it is really baffling.

You need to keep this up, because it's very entertaining.

Vade retro satanas! You are dead scum, we should not listen to anything you say.You are trying to WIFOM us to death.

[Chaotix]

Nah. I'm pretty sure the only people still voting for are those who haven't checked back in to see your wall of text.

Once they do, they will bow to the inevitability that you will survive this round and you will be off the hook.

Man I am getting so meta. I love being a dead scum. So much more freedom of expression than a live one.

Anyway, all we have to do is recruit you after you manage to not die and we have basically won the game. So thanks! :2thumbsup:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I also have to chuckle at the idea of a townie actually keeping a promise to only self-vote for the rest of the game.

How is that a pro-town thing to do, and what would it prove anyway?

Do I need to spell it out for you Chaotix?





I. AM. A. LIAR.

[Chaotix]

I also have to chuckle at the idea of a townie actually keeping a promise to only self-vote for the rest of the game.

How is that a pro-town thing to do, and what would it prove anyway?

Do I need to spell it out for you Chaotix?





I. AM. A. LIAR.

And a pretty good one at that.

I can't wait to see how long the sheeple continue to believe your lies.

They are practically begging for you to continue to drop untruths into their waiting ears.

[Askthepizzaguy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiGjxxytLy8'


How to townie:

1) Publicly claim to be a bulletproof person, and ask the investigator to investigate you, when you're the town investigator. Results: Two scum factions and a serial killer all believe you and kill other people, while you investigate them and out them as scum in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Mafia.

2) Publicly claim to be an investigator to get your suspect lynched, when you're only a vanilla townie, in That Creeping Darkness. Laugh when the scums kill you instead of the actual investigator, when your suspect flips cult leader.

3) Publicly claim to be a vigilante and pretend to be responsible for the actions of a murderer, until the mafia kills you, saving the town from having to lynch you, in numerous games.

4) Tell your top suspect in private that you are a neutral role, and that you're willing to side with the mafia, in order to get them to confess that he and Renata are the only scums left in the Order of the Stick. Post his private confession publicly for emphasis.

5) Promise you'll self-vote for the rest of the game to get your suspect dead. Then renege, and laugh about it.

[El Barto]

Ewwww Fleetwood Mac!

New and updated tally with grilled onions:

Askthepizzaguy: Seon; Ishmael; choxorn; Darth Feather; LazyMcCrow
Makrell: Double A
Ishmael: Makrell; Askthepizzaguy
Elite Ferret: johnhughthom
Ibn-Khaldun: Elite Ferret
(I'll be leaving shortly)

I stopped using Go for a Hotdog a long time ago because it's easier to just pop a lemonade or moomoo milk, and the other three are HMs.
This is Dorkémon red, not Dorkémon Silver. Do you want to unlearn Go for a Hotdog?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hey Chaotix!

Now the gameroom is apparently being modded by:


Moderators of this Forum

Chaotix,
I am a liar.

Is that rubbing it in too much?

[Chaotix]

Hey Chaotix!

Now the gameroom is apparently being modded by:



Is that rubbing it in too much?

I lol'd.

I half want to change my name to reflect my own tendency to tell the truth all the time unfailingly.

To whom exactly are you rubbing it in?


EDIT: Oooh, I know just the thing. Wait one moment, please.

[Chaotix]

There we go.

Well, what do you think?

[Askthepizzaguy]

They are practically begging for you to continue to drop untruths into their waiting ears.

If I ever apologize for it, that's when you'll know I'm full of carp.


To whom exactly are you rubbing it in?

To the gangster who decided to kill my beloved last night, apparently thinking I'd curl up and die as promised today.

[Askthepizzaguy]

There we go.

Well, what do you think?

Remember the guy who said "I have not misspelled Chatoix"?

Now he's right.


I have not misspelled Chatoix. That's your name now. I can think of nothing more appropriate.

[Chaotix]

They are practically begging for you to continue to drop untruths into their waiting ears.

If I ever apologize for it, that's when you'll know I'm full of carp.


To whom exactly are you rubbing it in?

To the gangster who decided to kill my beloved last night, apparently thinking I'd curl up and die as promised today.

Excuse me, but I believe you have misspelled Chatoix.

EDIT: Wow, ninja much?

[Double A]

Ewwww Fleetwood Mac!

New and updated tally with grilled onions:

Askthepizzaguy: Seon; Ishmael; choxorn; Darth Feather; LazyMcCrow
Makrell: Double A
Ishmael: Makrell; Askthepizzaguy
Elite Ferret: johnhughthom
Ibn-Khaldun: Elite Ferret
(I'll be leaving shortly)

This is Dorkémon red, not Dorkémon Silver. Do you want to unlearn Go for a Hotdog?

Red version still has lemonade, though the only way to get infinite money is to beat up the Elite Four. Or, you know, use a game shark.

I don't need no stinkin' healin' move.

[El Barto]

Hey, what's with them name changes?

[Chaotix]

Hey, what's with them name changes?

I have no idea what you are talking about.

[El Barto]

Alright, you can't post in the game-thread until you change your name to somethign that doesn't unncessarily cause confusion in the GM's mind and those of living players.

[Darth Feather]

unvote: Askthepizzaguy; vote: I am a liar

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote: Askthepizzaguy; vote: I am a liar

So you admit it? :clown:

[Chaotix]

Oh, just let me keep it for a few more posts. This is so much fun.

I'll change it back soon, I promise. :bow:

[LazyMcCrow]

unvote: Askthepizzaguy; vote: I am a liar

What he said.

[El Barto]

unvote: Askthepizzaguy; vote: I am a liarWhat he said.
Votes for Askthepizzaguy and whichever other posters who've changed their names still stand.

Oh, just let me keep it for a few more posts. This is so much fun.

I'll change it back soon, I promise. :bow:
Ha-ha-ha.

No.
http://images.wikia.com/theregularshow/images/c/c2/Benson_character.png

[Darth Feather]

2 name changes on one day, that's just plainly confusing, chaotix/chatoix/Johnhughscum.

[Askthepizzaguy]

True story:

It's not letting me change my name back to Askthepizzaguy for some reason:

"name is already in use."

I think I broke the org.

[El Barto]

https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m41oc7Zb6Y1qf9djko1_250.gif

[Askthepizzaguy]

Darth Feather-

I request your assistance in denouncing Caiushmael, and voting him cold and dead.

I believe you to be a good townie, not an insane one. You felt I was townie yesterday. I didn't change alignments overnight.

[LazyMcCrow]

I think I broke the org.

and now you've become a confused fanboy version of yourself?

[Askthepizzaguy]

What he said.

LazyMcCrow

I have given you a serious, but good-natured ribbing in this game.

You are also a townie. And, a good one at that.

I know you want to lynch Askthepizzaguy-as-scum. He's not here. Try again some other game.

In the meantime, Askthepizzaman-as-town needs your help battling evil.

Don't give me a free pass, but I sincerely believe you can look at me and see the townie in me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Look into my child-like eyes. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j2Xnm-C2y4)

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/customprofilepics/profilepic23872_7.gif

I am an innocent townie.

No wait, I'm not an innocent townie. I am an evil, evil, manipulative bastard townie with a black, evil pit of blackness in my soul.

But you know that I'm a townie. So let's lynch Caiushmael the scumbag together!

[LazyMcCrow]

You are in no way a townie in this game - whether you flip mafia or town - You have done nothing but deliberately obfuscate, confuse, wriggle and rant. You're probably an SK. :)

[Darth Feather]

Well, I don't think you are scum. But in Visors lynch you allmost (!) said: "lynch me if I am wrong." If you would just have posted your analysis on Visorslash, I would probably not be voting you, I mean, everyone makes mistakes.

You just drove up the stakes insanely high by saying you would self-vote the rest of the game if you were wrong. But still, my vote would not make any difference. There is no way you are going to convince Lazy, choxorn or Seon.

Scew it. unvote
I might be making the biggest mistake in this game. Come on Chaotix/Chatoix/Johnhughscum, point it out, I am ready for it.

[LazyMcCrow]

...and if you flip town, then of course, I'd be fine with replacement scum/Cashmael to head next for the noose.

Point is, you've sung a different song each day, and that just smacks of wanting to survive more than anything else.

[LazyMcCrow]

Meh. That was a pretty scummy post DF. :/

[Askthepizzaguy]

...and if you flip town, then of course, I'd be fine with replacement scum/Cashmael to head next for the noose.

Point is, you've sung a different song each day, and that just smacks of wanting to survive more than anything else.

Hey, LazyMcCrow-

wouldn't a serial killer be like.... killing and stuff.

Come on now. I know you don't like that I'm trying to survive. You think that's scummy.

And I know that Caius/Ishmael has done absolutely. Nothing. Scummy. In this game.

And yet, the fact is, Askthepizzaguy is townie. And he's sniffed Caius, and he smelled like scum. And then he got replaced by Ishmael.

But I'm not satisfied with your compromise.

I am not happy just winning the game. I am fighting for the totally absurd win: Askthepizzaguy never gets lynched, and gets his suspect dead even though there was never any case.

No case.

No scumtells.

Nothing.

Dead scumbag. Living Askthepizzaman.

Can you do it? Or is that too big a leap?

This is for bonus points and extra credit. I'm asking you to do it in the reverse order.

Why? For the hell of it, that's why.

Because I'm not satisfied until we win this game WITH STYLE!!!!

[Darth Feather]

Meh. That was a pretty scummy post DF. :/

Halfway the post I changed my mind.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I want the scumbags to go.... WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED.

That's how I want to win the game.

Because I'm an evil bastard like that.

Join me, and together, we can confuse the :sunny: out of every scumbag who ever dared use Askthepizzaguy as lynch bait.

Best of all, you might get over that whole "must punish Pizza for acting like he always does" thing.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You just drove up the stakes insanely high by saying you would self-vote the rest of the game if you were wrong. But still, my vote would not make any difference. There is no way you are going to convince Lazy, choxorn or Seon.

Then I'll just have to convince Caiushmael to vote for himself. I don't care.

Choxorn already knows I'm a townie. He's going to end the round voting for Ishmael. Seon, I don't know. He might not check back in again. If he does, he'll change his vote.

It's that obvious that I'm a townie, is what I'm saying.

[Riedquat]

Sorry, not feeling well, food intoxication or it was the wine? can't believe that! :sick:

Later I will vote for you Pizza, not for punishment but I think we need certainty about your alignment, all these last interactions with chaotix make me thing you both are laughing your scummy asses at us.

To me BSmith keep being a highly suspect, Makrell with his 2 votes and posts from last night returns to the nº1 position, it is very tempting to vote him now...
Caius-Ishmael...don't know, the replacement at this stage of the game, seems odd and the lack of a kill in the previous night oddest...

Edit: err...4-6 xposts since I started to write mine... O.o

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ok. Let's get real.

folks voting for me, and townies on the fence-

You're worried I'm going to burn you, right? Oh no we got fooled by Askthepizzaguy, etc. It's not a fun feeling.

I get that same feeling whenever I put myself out there, and make a case, and put my rep on the line saying "this guy is scum" and he flips town.

You know how much it stings that Visor flipped townie? I was trying to look like a big damn hero and I fragged someone. He was stubbornly all over me and JUST AS WRONG as I was, and I still feel really bad about it.

But I have to burn you like eight or nine more times in a row to win this game. What's my plan for doing that?

Is it put myself on the line every single round and act shocked and sad whenever my suspect flips town?

That's my winning plan?

You know that doesn't work. Nobody can do that, not even me. I might be able to weasel out of two or three lynches, but not the amount remaining in this game.

So if I am scum, I've lost this game.

I'm not.

Help me kill the scums.

And best of all, when and if Caiushmael flips townie, I'm the guy who has to deal with the grief of being wrong.

You can blame me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Sorry, not feeling well, food intoxication or it was the wine? can't believe that! :sick:

Later I will vote for you Pizza, not for punishment but I think we need certainty about your alignment, all these last interactions with chaotix make me thing you both are laughing your scummy asses at us.

To me BSmith keep being a highly suspect, Makrell with his 2 votes and posts from last night returns to the nº1 position, it is very tempting to vote him now...
Caius-Ishmael...don't know, the replacement at this stage of the game, seems odd and the lack of a kill in the previous night oddest...

Why does BSmith vote for edse, someone he would have had to kill if he were scum?

If he were scum, that means his vote for edse was a conscious ploy to screw with your mind.

But then, if it were a ploy to save his own butt, wouldn't HE be the one arguing that it makes him town? He did nothing of the sort. he unvoted, and moved on.

There was no ploy. He's town.

[Riedquat]

Ok. Let's get real.

folks voting for me, and townies on the fence-

You're worried I'm going to burn you, right? Oh no we got fooled by Askthepizzaguy, etc. It's not a fun feeling.

I get that same feeling whenever I put myself out there, and make a case, and put my rep on the line saying "this guy is scum" and he flips town.

You know how much it stings that Visor flipped townie? I was trying to look like a big damn hero and I fragged someone. He was stubbornly all over me and JUST AS WRONG as I was, and I still feel really bad about it.

But I have to burn you like eight or nine more times in a row to win this game. What's my plan for doing that?

Is it put myself on the line every single round and act shocked and sad whenever my suspect flips town?

That's my winning plan?

You know that doesn't work. Nobody can do that, not even me. I might be able to weasel out of two or three lynches, but not the amount remaining in this game.

So if I am scum, I've lost this game.

I'm not.

Help me kill the scums.

And best of all, when and if Caiushmael flips townie, I'm the guy who has to deal with the grief of being wrong.

You can blame me.

No, not again! :stare:

[Riedquat]

Why does BSmith vote for edse, someone he would have had to kill if he were scum?

If he were scum, that means his vote for edse was a conscious ploy to screw with your mind.

But then, if it were a ploy to save his own butt, wouldn't HE be the one arguing that it makes him town? He did nothing of the sort. he unvoted, and moved on.

There was no ploy. He's town.


And Visor was scum, as was monty, we clear you first and then review all things in that light!

[Askthepizzaguy]

No, not again! :stare:

Yes. Again, Riedquat.

Let's not act like anyone else here hasn't guessed wrong before.

[Askthepizzaguy]

And Visor was scum, as was monty, we clear you first and then review all things in that light!

No, I never said Monty was scum, first of all. I voted him to save my butt. I was trying to lynch Caius that round, nobody followed me, and then I decided to try a random wagon on BSmith, who later proved his townieness to me.

So let's get things straight: My suspects were Caius, BSmith, and Visor. I cleared one, tried the other and was wrong.

I was also RIGHT about B_Ray and I also voted Chaotix on round one.

Let's not clear me first and review things in that light. Let's instead lynch Ishmael, and review things at the victory party.

Then I can give you my personal pat on the back for having the cojones to not lynch me today.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Would you really prefer I said "Lynch me first, when I flip townie, lynch Ishmael?"

There's no dramatic tension in that. That's two rounds of boredom.

Take a risk. Go all the way to Day Seven not knowing if I'm full of it. Oh noes.

[Askthepizzaguy]

There are two mafiosi dead in five rounds of play.

You can get the third one dead on round six, people. That's an accuracy rating of 50%.

Seriously. It's not like we're missing that often. Take. A. Risk.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Or okay, I'm off by a day. Miscounted. There are two mafiosi dead in six rounds of play. So you won't be able to hit the 50% mark today.

You'll be damned close though.

[Ishmael]

Would you really prefer I said "Lynch me first, when I flip townie, lynch Ishmael?"

There's no dramatic tension in that. That's two rounds of boredom.

Take a risk. Go all the way to Day Seven not knowing if I'm full of it. Oh noes.

And in that case, it would also be two rounds wasted. I find it interesting that you're trying to frame things such that if you're town, I must be scum. I'm hardly leading the lynch mob against you here; and as you say, even if I were and was wrong it wouldn't necessarily mean anything.

Incidentally, Pizza, have you ever considered a career in politics? (that's a compliment, in case it was ambiguous).

[Askthepizzaguy]

And in that case, it would also be two rounds wasted. I find it interesting that you're trying to frame things such that if you're town, I must be scum. I'm hardly leading the lynch mob against you here; and as you say, even if I were and was wrong it wouldn't necessarily mean anything.

Incidentally, Pizza, have you ever considered a career in politics? (that's a compliment, in case it was ambiguous :beam:).

Ishmael, I entirely sympathize with your being on the opposite end of my poking stick.

It doesn't matter that you're not leading the lynch mob against me. My problem with you is that you're likely scum, not because you've offended me in some way.

You did vote for me, because I am an easy lynch. But my case against you is that you're Caius, and I voted Caius for absolutely no reason.

I also voted the other scums for absolutely no reason.

I'm not saying if I'm town, Ishmael must be scum. You're twisting what I've been saying. I've been saying I am town, and that you're scum. Not I am town because you're scum, or you're scum because I'm town.

The case against you is that I vote for you. That's my case. And I want it to be the one that hangs you.


I'm about to go to work. This is my prediction: Folks will do things the safe way, and avoid being burned by the dreaded Askthepizzaguy as scum. I will hang.

Tomorrow, some people will vote for you, but they may be distracted. You don't hang tomorrow.

You don't hang for several days. Then they finally give up, lynch you, and the game ends.

That's a lot of waiting. I want to win now.

[Ishmael]

It's funny you should mention distractions, seeing as that's the main reason I voted for you - to eliminate one. Nonetheless, I think considering your track record in this game, you'll need a bit more of a case to see anybody lynched. Right now you're a twofold distraction - you're distracting the search for other scum with your survival, as well as with your somewhat overzealous pursuit of a single individual (read: me).

Put it this way: imagine you get lynched, then I get lynched, and we both flip town. Who would you next lynch? Makrell still? And if so, what makes him such a lesser suspect? Why should (spurious) meta concerns override in-thread behaviour? I think we can both agree that more diverse discussion is welcome.

[johnhughthom]

What the... :stare:

I ARE OFFENSED

[BSmith]

vote: ATPM

[Chaotix]

What the... :stare:

I ARE OFFENSED

We are but two sides of the same coin, john.

You, the town, and I the scum.

But I changed my name back anyway because it was getting kind of old.

[Ferret]

Ibn is way down my suspect list, but I'd be willing to join to assist you, Elite Ferret.

What's your take on Caiushmael?

Caius always seems scummy to me and being replaced always arouses suspicions. I still not sure though. Yes we had no kill the night before he was replaced and a kill the night after, but we still had a kill in between the replacement and Chaotix dying. So if they were partners I don't see why Chaotix wouldn't be able to continue to send in proxy-orders.

Doesn't look like the bandwaggon on you is going to be overturned anyway.

[Chaotix]

Caius always seems scummy to me and being replaced always arouses suspicions. I still not sure though. Yes we had no kill the night before he was replaced and a kill the night after, but we still had a kill in between the replacement and Chaotix dying. So if they were partners I don't see why Chaotix wouldn't be able to continue to send in proxy-orders.

Doesn't look like the bandwaggon on you is going to be overturned anyway.

Yes. Listen to this man.

He is full of teh reasoning.

There is no way ever that Ishmael is mafia.

You should lynch ATPG, let Ishmael live, and stop wasting your time.

[Ferret]

Okay, unvote; vote:Ishmael

[Ishmael]

Yes. Listen to this man.

He is full of teh reasoning.

There is no way ever that Ishmael is mafia.

You should lynch ATPG, let Ishmael live, and stop wasting your time.

Would you stop that?

:stare:

[Choxorn]

why would someone deserve punishment when they are town, then it is just a wasted lynch?

Vote: atpg


this is my townie behaviour

but but

vote: ishmael


unvote: atpg
Vote: Ishameal

For the past couple of days, you've pretty much been unable to decide whether to vote for ATPG or not, and you've had bad reasons for votes if you've had reasons at all. This may be your usual behavior, but it's scummy as hell.

So no. You don't get to keep floating by like this. You don't get to keep avoiding notice because we're too busy paying attention to someone else.

Unvote, Vote: Makrell

I'm still not sure about ATPG, but right now, I think he's too damn entertaining to lynch.

[Chaotix]

Would you stop that?

:stare:

What?

Try to save my scum buddy ATPG from being lynched?

Why should I stop doing that?

[Visor]

I have no idea why you guys are letting ATPG live, AGAIN. Do you like losing or something?

Vote Pizza, win the game. It is not that difficult.

[LazyMcCrow]

I have no idea why you guys are letting ATPG live, AGAIN. Do you like losing or something?

Vote Pizza, win the game. It is not that difficult.

This

[Riedquat]

I have no idea why you guys are letting ATPG live, AGAIN. Do you like losing or something?

Vote Pizza, win the game. It is not that difficult.


This

Vote: Askthepizzamanguy

[Double A]

I have no idea why you guys are letting ATPG live, AGAIN. Do you like losing or something?

Vote Pizza, win the game. It is not that difficult.

Losing is Fun.

In spite of that, I'll keep my vote off of Pizza because I doubt he's scum.

[Riedquat]

Pizza: 5 (Seon, Ishmael, Lazy, Bsmith, kumquat)
Ishmael: 3 (Makrell, Pizza, EF)
Makrell: 2 (Double A, Choxorn)
EF: 1 (Tht)

Not voting: Ibn-khaldum and DF

Correct or missing something?

[Darth Feather]

I think it is correct. :bow:

vote: Makrell

I am not sure about the Caiushmael case.
I think replacement is not enough reason to determine if someone is scum.

[El Barto]

Lunchtime tally with leftovers from last Caturday as my meal:

Askthepizzaguy: Seon; Ishmael; LazyMcCrow; BSmith; Riedquat
Makrell: Double A; choxorn; Darth Feather
Ishmael: Makrell; Askthepizzaguy; Elite Ferret
Elite Ferret: johnhughthom

Not voting: Ibn-Khaldun
But some fresh fruit makes it better afterwards. I went OUTSIDE today, and it was glorious.

Edit: I'll be back at update time but not available throughout the afternoon as I usually like. Toodles!

[Ferret]

Unvote; vote:Makrell

Because for some reason I want ATPM to live.

[BSmith]

Why? At this stage of the game he is at best a distraction to the town - not something that is conducive to a town win. Let's get his alignment once and for all. We can then either trust his previous (and hopefully future) analysis or know if it is not worth the electrons it was written with.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Unvote; vote:Makrell

Because for some reason I want ATPM to live.

You're not doing me any favors, Elite Ferret.

I'd rather swing today than anyone else besides Ishmael.

Please put your vote back where it was. Let me die, so that way I can flip town, and then Ishmael can die and flip scum.

If town doesn't want to lynch the scumbag this round, let them see inside my brains and then do the right thing tomorrow instead.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why? At this stage of the game he is at best a distraction to the town - not something that is conducive to a town win. Let's get his alignment once and for all. We can then either trust his previous (and hopefully future) analysis or know if it is not worth the electrons it was written with.

BSmith, forget the analysis.

My analysis yesterday did jack. The only thing analysis will show is that some players are town.

Caius left nothing to analyze, and maybe not even on purpose. Ishmael will look like any other townie today.

This game won't be solved by analysis.

Listen, handsome, I've been oh so wrong about you so many times. You don't need to return the favor. Let's bag Caius and end the game, plz.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think it is correct. :bow:

vote: Makrell

I am not sure about the Caiushmael case.
I think replacement is not enough reason to determine if someone is scum.

You'll not determine if he's scum or not. There's nothing to base your determinations off of.

Today he will look like any other townie, and before that, he will look like the absent Caius. So, if you base your cases on analysis, like I tried to do, you'll invent reasons....

invent. reasons.

to lynch townies.

That's the trap.

There are no reasons. It's a vanilla game, from what I can tell. And your scumbag left no clues.

Use the Force. Haven't I taught you anything about the Dark Side yet, Darth? This is the Emprah talking.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm Mister Analysis, and I'm telling you, it's all bull, and it's always been bull.

Reasons are there for persuasion purposes only.

It doesn't make your case any more or less correct. All the reasons in the world didn't make Visor flip scum.

There are no reasons to lynch Caiushmael. But thou must. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ButThouMust)

If you spend the entire rest of the game looking for reasons, you'll find them. But, you won't find the scum.

[Chaotix]

ATPG, this entire page is nothing but posts by you (until now).

You're starting to scare me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

ATPG, this entire page is nothing but posts by you (until now).

You're starting to scare me.

I prefer to reply to different people in different posts, for easier quote-reply function.

I also monologue. I'm not afraid to express my thoughts. Others seem a bit gun shy.

[Darth Feather]

ATPG, this entire page is nothing but posts by you (until now).

You're starting to scare me.

Use 80 posts per page modus, then that probably won't happen ~;)

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Vote: Makrell

I don't like fish..

[Darth Feather]

I'm Mister Analysis, and I'm telling you, it's all bull, and it's always been bull.

Reasons are there for persuasion purposes only.

It doesn't make your case any more or less correct. All the reasons in the world didn't make Visor flip scum.

There are no reasons to lynch Caiushmael. But thou must. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ButThouMust)

If you spend the entire rest of the game looking for reasons, you'll find them. But, you won't find the scum.

But I realized something. If Caiushmael is indeed scum, that would mean there is at least one other scum (murder during night after Chaotix27 (at that moment still called Chaotix) died)
Then I think Makrell is the last scum. If Makrell flips scum next round, and the game does not end, I will be voting Caiushmael.

[Riedquat]

Vote: Makrell

I don't like fish..

:stare: That is the best reason you can give? In day six?

And now we have a tie... so wonderful :no:

[Riedquat]

But I realized something. If Caiushmael is indeed scum, that would mean there is at least one other scum (murder during night after Chaotix27 (at that moment still called Chaotix) died)
Then I think Makrell is the last scum. If Makrell flips scum next round, and the game does not end, I will be voting Caiushmael.

Or like Pizza suggested, the host allowed the dead to command the inactive living, like an inverse vudu thing... :/

[Darth Feather]

Or like Pizza suggested, the host allowed the dead to command the inactive living, like an inverse vudu thing... :/

You think so? It sounds quite far-fetched to me. Of course, I am not aware of what El Barto is capable of.

[Ferret]

That's what I would do if I was host, always need to keep the mafia kills coming in.

[johnhughthom]

You think so? It sounds quite far-fetched to me. Of course, I am not aware of what El Barto is capable of.

I'm pretty sure I can remember team mates being able to send in orders for inactives in a El Takewer game.

[Ishmael]

Well, I certainly wasn't expecting to come back after 24 hours to find a wagon on Makrell. But seriously guys, just lynch ATPG/M.

Also, whatever happens, don't lynch I-K. Only a townie can be that scummy.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Time remaining: .

No, Makrell is not scum. And I refuse to be bait for another round.

Caiushmael is scum.

Unvote Ishmael.

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

You must lynch Ishmael ASAP. Do it, or I will become very annoying.

[Askthepizzaguy]

As if I weren't already.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Lunchtime tally with leftovers from last Caturday as my meal:
Askthepizzaguy: Seon; Ishmael; LazyMcCrow; BSmith; Riedquat


Since you all like to punish people for being wrong.

The person on my wagon that you absolutely must punish, is Ishmael.

That is my final request.

The grasp of Pizzaguy reaches out from the grave. And I will not be ignored! :evil: :evil:

[El Barto]

VOTING IS CLOSED.

You think so? It sounds quite far-fetched to me. Of course, I am not aware of what El Barto is capable of.I'm pretty sure I can remember team mates being able to send in orders for inactives in a El Takewer game.
Mwahahahaha! I can do better than that.

[El Barto]

DAY SEVEN
It was a day without any votes for baked goods.
Askthepizzaguy asked to be lynched. And to this, the town agreed, even if he had to vote himself for that.
Askthepizzaguy: Seon; Ishmael; LazyMcCrow; BSmith; Riedquat; Askthepizzaguy (6)
Makrell: Double A; choxorn; Darth Feather; Elite Ferret; Ibn-Khaldun (5)
Ishmael: Makrell (1)
Elite Ferret: johnhughthom (1)
He was town.


Living
BSmith
Double A
LazyMcCrow
Darth Feather
Makrell
Riedquat
choxorn
Ishmael
Seon
Ibn-Khaldun
Elite Ferret
townhughthom

Dead
robbiecon, town, killed Night One.
B_Ray, Mafia, lynched Day Two.
edse, town, killed Night Two.
Jarema, town, lynched Day Three.
rickinator9, town, killed Night Three.
Chaotix, Mafia, lynched Day Four.
Major Robert Dump, town, killed Night Four.
Montmorency, town, lynched Day Five.
Visorslash, town, lynched Day Six.
Diana Abnoba, town, killed Night Six.
Askthepizzaguyman, town, lynched Day Seven.

This will be a double-length Night phase because of RL constraints. See you all next Monday!
Time remaining: .

[Major Robert Dump]

LOLZ

[El Barto]

I meant see you all next Wednesday. I'd better go away now…

[Ishmael]

Askthepizzaguy asked to be lynched. And to this, the town agreed, even if he had to vote himself for that.
He was town.


I won't say I'm utterly shocked at that, although my response would have been the same were he mafia. Still, it had to be done.

[Askthepizzaguy]

There. Now you have seen my official townie pizzaguy scum-hunter's card.

I don't want to rub it in too much Monty, but you couldn't tell a scum pizza from a hole in the ground. :wink:

And without further ado-





https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/Zombie_zpsffccd6ce.png



Bring me Ishmael's BRAIIIINNNNSSSSSSS

[Chaotix]

Delightful.

But the real question is, who do you lynch tomorrow?

I eagerly await your decisions. First, however, my living associates have a murder to attend to.

[Ishmael]

Delightful.

But the real question is, who do you lynch tomorrow?

I eagerly await your decisions. First, however, my living associates have a murder to attend to.

Note to self: there is only one living mafioso.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Note to self: Ishmael and Chaotix are cowering together on their scum board, going I wish, I wish, I hadn't killed Pizzaman's girlfriend.

[B-Wing]

Note to self: all future mafia games should give any mafia who self-votes to clinch his own lynch (rhymes, son) the option to flip townie for the sake of public deception.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Note to self: get a note book so I can write down these notes to myself.

[LazyMcCrow]

Note to self: get a note book so I can write down these notes to myself.

Note to self: Doh.

[Diana Abnoba]

Note to host: Monty is on the living list when he is dead and rotting by now.

Note to Pizza: You are the scummiest townie I know. :wall:


Note to mafia: I know it was you Chaotix that picked me to die last night. (but I'm sure B_Ray said yeah what a good idea). :annoyed: :tongue3: to you both.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Note to Pizza: You are the scummiest townie I know. :wall:

And sexiest. Don't forget sexiest.

[B-Wing]

Note to mafia: I know it was you Chaotix that picked me to die last night. (but I'm sure B_Ray said yeah what a good idea). :annoyed: :tongue3: to you both.

It was actually Caius's idea.

[Darth Feather]

It was actually Caius's idea.

Stop it, will you, I know you and chaotix are trying to drive us CRaAaaaZy. You are trying to Wifom till we are dead.

[edse]

It was actually Caius's idea.

Vote: B_Ray he pretty much admitts being mafia.

[Darth Feather]

Vote: B_Ray he pretty much admitts being mafia.

So that is a necronocturnovote?

[Chaotix]

Stop it, will you, I know you and chaotix are trying to drive us CRaAaaaZy. You are trying to Wifom till we are dead.

Indeed. We must give credit where credit is due.

For the record, Darth Feather was the one who decided we should kill Diana.

[Double A]

Vote: B_Ray he pretty much admitts being mafia.

It's like he's trying to get caught.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It was actually Caius's idea.

Give Caius my love. It's been several hours since my death, so excuse me if I'm feeling a little stiff.

[Darth Feather]

For the record, chaotix, B_Ray and the (hopefully) last unknown scum were the one who decided we should kill Diana.


This is more like it

[El Barto]

But the real question is, who do you lynch tomorrow?
*whom :bow:

Note to self: all future mafia games should give any mafia who self-votes to clinch his own lynch (rhymes, son) the option to flip townie for the sake of public deception.
My next game will be called 'Clinch your own lynch' if negotiations with the current utterers of such big-man rhymes are concluded satisfactorily.

ATTENTION!
I will now proceed to analyse Askthepizzaguyman's posting patterns.

Pizza rants post-mortem.

Note to self: Ishmael and Chaotix are cowering together on their scum board, going I wish, I wish, I hadn't killed Pizzaman's girlfriend.
I shall quote myself now.

Diana Abnoba, town, killed Night Six.
As positive, conclusive proof.

Note to host: Monty is on the living list when he is dead and rotting by now.(Note to Barto: you shoudl fix that.)


Note to Pizza: You are the scummiest townie I know. :wall:And sexiest. Don't forget sexiest.
Dialogue, dialogue, dialogue.

I have conclusive proof, then, that Pizza and Diana are lovers. They shall betray the town for their own benefit!





Or something.

[Choxorn]

Stop trolling the town, Takhitty. ~;p

[El Barto]

Worse still, at the same time that pizza was lynched in my game, he was lynched (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=12388990&postcount=171) in another game, and he was revealed to be mafia there. So, he was lying to us! He was a mafia after all!

[El Barto]

NIGHT SIX

Darth Feather was killed.
He was Innocent.

Living
BSmith
Double A
LazyMcCrow
Makrell
Riedquat
choxorn
Ishmael
Seon
Ibn-Khaldun
Elite Ferret
townhughthom

Dead
robbiecon, town, killed Night One.
B_Ray, Mafia, lynched Day Two.
edse, town, killed Night Two.
Jarema, town, lynched Day Three.
rickinator9, town, killed Night Three.
Chaotix, Mafia, lynched Day Four.
Major Robert Dump, town, killed Night Four.
Montmorency, town, lynched Day Five.
Visorslash, town, lynched Day Six.
Diana Abnoba, town, killed Night Six.
Askthepizzaguyman, town, lynched Day Seven.
Darth Feather, town, killed Night Seven.

Time remaining: .

[Ishmael]

I was going to just copy-paste my reasoning against Elite Ferret from the other day, but he made a reasonable post in his defence and I'm willing to give him a pass for now. I'm up for a lynch on Seon, Makrell or JHT, in decreasing order of perceived scumminess, but I'm open to being swayed. I tend to alternate ill-fated post analysis voting rounds with ill-fated intuition based voting rounds in vanilla games, and this is one of the latter, so:

vote: Seon

[Darth Feather]

Seon, you owe me a fish.

On a non-fish related story, I still think Makrell is scum.
Seon though is a good lynch as well IMO.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Makrell, you owe me. You know what to do.

[LazyMcCrow]

vote: Seon Ishmael - your three choices are probably ones I'd go for. You seem townie.

[Makrell]

Vote: townhoughtown

[Choxorn]

Vote: Makrell

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Elite Ferret

[Ferret]

Wow, so much reasoning in this round...

Any basis for that vote jht? Always nice to know why people want you dead.

[Darth Feather]

Wow, so much reasoning in this round...

Any basis for that vote jht? Always nice to know why people want you dead.

Makrell should not be reasoning as he is scummy scum. He also voted someone who is not very high on my suspect list.

[Darth Feather]

Double post, please ignore

[Ferret]

The thoughts of a Ferret:

BSmith: Attempted to save B_Ray on day 2. Voted for Chaotix on day three but at a time when Jarema looked almost certain to be lynched.Then gave up on Chaotix and voted for Visorslash instead on the day scumbag Chaotix was lynched. Very suspicious. Laid low until a speedwagon appeared on him and has been laying low since it dissipated. One of my top suspects.

Double A: Seems more interested in comedy than catching the mafia. :clown:
I haven't been able to get a read on him from what few serious things he has posted.

LazyMcCrow: Heavily involved in the B_Ray lynch and was also one of the votes that killed Chaotix, albeit a late one. Seems like a fairly productive townie to me.

Makrell: Present on Chaotix lynch, but arguably when it was already over, so no indication of alignment here. A lot of votes have little or no reasoning but doesn't look like scum behaviour to me.

Riedquat: Raised early suspicions of Chaotix and pressed hard for his lynching. Fairly standard behaviour afterwards. Smells like a townie.

choxorn: broke the Chaotix-Visorslash tie, having voted for him in a previous round. Votes have been scattered all over the place since, as have everyone's. The ATPG side show has made it hard to analyse anyone over those few rounds.

Ishmael: is a replacement and so automatically scummy. Other than that I think his behaviour has been quite normal, handled the ATPG drive for his lynch fairly well. Also is the only one to share any reasoning this round.

Seon: only 9 posts, very lurky. Broke a Visorslash-Chaotix tie but hasn't done a whole lot else. Except try and kill ATPG, which was actually quite a townie thing to do looking back on it.

Ibn-Khaldun: Behaved incredibly similarly to B_Ray in the early game. Wasn't involved in either scum lynches and was in fact part of the Visorslash bandwaggon which threatened to prevent the Chaotix lynch. Very little activity since then.

Elite Ferret: I think my pressing for the B_Ray lynch pretty much clears me of being a member of that group of mafia, haven't seen any evidence of there being another one. Also I know I'm a townie.

jht: keeps changing his name, annoying and very scummy. Was replaced but not, I have no idea what was happening there. Kept voting for Jarema for no apparent reason. Since Jarema died and flipped townie he's moved on to me, again never giving any reasoning. Wasn't part of either mafia lynches. Verdict: scumtacular.


Given that we've never had more than one kill per night I'm inclined to believe that there was just one mafia team with three members. If it turns out that there is another then some of my reasoning may be well off. Having said that here is my list of suspects in order of scummy-ness:

1. BSmith
2. jht
3. Ibn-Khaldun
4. Double A
5. Makrell
6. Seon
7. Ishmael
8. Choxorn
9. Riedquat
10. LazyMcCrow
11. Elite Ferret

Therefore I will vote:BSmith, with a willingness to change it to one of my other top three targets if others prefer it.

[Riedquat]

Makrell, you owe me. You know what to do.


Vote: townhoughtown

One or both of you are :daisy:'ing kidding us! :stare:

Vote: Makrell

Bsmith, Caiushmael, Seon, Ibn-khaldum... don't know in what order...

[johnhughthom]

Since Jarema died and flipped townie he's moved on to me, again never giving any reasoning.

:rolleyes:

[Double A]

:rolleyes:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/jsg/ScruffySecond.jpg

[Riedquat]

Well... to be honest I can't see how you find Tht more scummy than makrell, seon, Ibn-khaldum and Ishmael... More scummy than one of these is ok, he is always scummy, but more than all of them? :rolleyes:

[Darth Feather]

Vote: Makrell



Finally we are getting somewhere. There will be more than one vote needed to kill Makrell.

EDIT: I am also asking where all those Makrell-voters of last round are. Not saying huge bandwagons are good, but if everyone has one vote against them, basically the mafia decides who dies and I am not sure if we can afford that in this stage of the game.