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Even if Tiaexz is scum, the right choice now is to lynch BSmith. Hell, especially if Tiaexz is scum.
El Barto
06-05-2013, 21:12
Even if Tiaexz is scum, the right choice now is to lynch BSmith. Hell, especially if Tiaexz is scum.
WHAT?
johnhughthom
06-05-2013, 21:14
WHAT?
Because if BSmith is a townie, that self vote at such a stage of the game was a pretty poor show.
Askthepizzaguy
06-05-2013, 21:24
Any bets that the game is already over and they're just toying with us?
Because if BSmith is a townie, that self vote at such a stage of the game was a pretty poor show.
It's a poor show regardless of alignment, really.
Any bets that the game is already over and they're just toying with us?
Would be typical Andres, but if it's already over that means I survived the game as a victorious townie. That doesn't happen, therefore this is real.
Would be typical Andres, but if it's already over that means I survived the game as a victorious townie. That doesn't happen, therefore this is real.
I think he means that the Mafia has won regardless.
I think he means that the Mafia has won regardless.
Not enough craziness going on amongst the five of you for that, IMO.
Voting concluded. Stand by for execution.
And Suddenly, it all happened so fast
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/nomansland_zps32eed701.jpg
"So, it is with great pleasure that for once, we have reached a unanimous decision," Tiaexz declared. "We are very glad that our lynchee of the day, the venerable Mister BSmith, agrees that he is most likely a cannibal."
"I... I've never. I mean, it was never..."
"Oh come on, let's not ruin this, please," the Revisorator said, eager to get some fresh flesh.
BSmith's features suddenly hardened. He didn't say a word again.
"Yes... that's it. Feel it. Just feel it."
BSmith's look became even harder. It was starting to get cold in the room.
"Yes... Yes..." The Revisorator said, "that's it. Soon, you'll be mine!"
In the background, some song from the seventies began to play.
Tiaexz began to sing:
"You're as cold as ice
"You're willing to sacrifice our love
"You never take advice
"Someday you'll pay the price, I know
"Oh no, you won't," BSmith said, and with those words he had said more than he had said during this whole nightmare. Even the grmphs were deemed quiet the talkative bunch compared to BSmith.
"I beg you pardon?" Tiaexz asked.
"No! No! Don't ruin this now!" the Revisorator said.
"I want something more modern. And I want girls singing, not a bunch of hairy dudes who escaped from the 70ties."
"What's wrong with the '70ties?" somebody asked. "I was born in the seventies!"
"I don't care. I don't want that old stuff."
The Revisorator sighed deeply. "And I so wanted this to end with the last innocent townie turning into an ice cube. Bunch of spoilsports!"
"How about this?" BSmith asked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRAwyN9mnhI
Suddenly, all began to dance that silly dance. Even the Revisorator was jumping up and down, under loud protests.
"No, stop this! My ice cubes will melt!"
Suddenly, everything did indeed stop.
Nobody moved. Except Agent BSmith and the Revisorator.
"You are empty," Agent BSmith said.
"So are you," the Revisorator replied.
"I'm willing to wipe the slate clean, give you a fresh start. All that we're asking in return is your cooperation in bringing humanity down."
"Yeah," the Revisorator said, adjusting his sunglasses, " Well, that sounds like a pretty good deal. But I think I may have a better one. How about, I give you the finger."
" I hate this place. This zoo. This prison. This reality, whatever you want to call it, I can't stand it any longer. It's the smell, if there is such a thing. I feel saturated by it. I can taste your stink and every time I do, I fear that I've somehow been infected by it." Agent BSmith said.
"Now, if you would put yourself in a refrigerator, it wouldn't smell that much," and with those words, the Revisorator jumped towards Agent BSmith, his door open, trying to catch him.
With a move that was no longer human, Agent BSmith jumped in the air. The two began a fight that went way too fast for the human eye to follow. It went on for hours and hours when suddenly, Agent BSmith managed to pull out the plug of the Revisorator, who fell down and seemed broken.
"Mr. Revisorator... You disappoint me."
"You can't scare me!" the Revisorator said, and suddenly, power was flowing through him again.
"But how! You are unplugged!"
"Just like unplugged concerts can be great, an unplugged Revisorator can be extremely dangerous and deadly," the Revisorator said and he attacked Agent BSmith again.
The Revisorator was enraged and more powerful than ever. Agent BSmith slowly started to realise that he didn't stand a change against this.
With a mighty blow, Agent BSmith was struck down. Barely breathing, he still managed to talk: "Did you know that the first world we created was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept it. I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why we redesigned the world to... this."
"I'm going to enjoy watching you die, Agent BSmith," the Revisorator said and he opened his door, eating BSmith.
"You'll stay fresh in here," the Revisorator said.
***
BSmith: 5 (TinCow, Choxorn, Ibn-Khaldun, BSmith, Tiaexz) :skull:
Alive (4/31):
jht
Choxorn
Tiaexz
Ibn-Khaldun
Killed (18).
Abstain
autolycus
Darth Feather
LazyMcCrow
Montmorency
Diana Abnoba
Jolt
Makrell
rickinator9
GeneralHankerchief
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Ishmael
Yay!
edse
B-Wing
Zack
TinCow
Csargo
Lynched (9).
Askthepizzaguy
HopAlongBunny
El Barto
Ferret
Ironside
Kumquat
issaikhaan
Chaotix
BSmith
WoG/Suicide
Replaced.
***
It's now night. Night will last for +/- 23 hours. PM please.
Revisorator :laugh4: gold.
LazyMcCrow
06-05-2013, 23:14
Well, I'll be glad when this game's out of the wa... oh wait... it's over. Got time to squeeze in another quick one Andres?
seireikhaan
06-05-2013, 23:37
And the contract is sealed. :2thumbsup:
BSmith: 5 (TinCow, Choxorn, Ibn-Khaldun, BSmith, Tiaexz)
:on_hero:
HopAlongBunny
06-06-2013, 00:00
Wow!
Wait! What!?
It's now night. Night will last for +/- 23 hours. PM please.[/QUOTE]
Wow!
Wait! What!?
It's now night. Night will last for +/- 23 hours. PM please.
Cutting it fine though, the game will officially be over on the 6th of June (Andres time).
EDIT: Meant to say, classic Andres here again.
And Suddenly, it all happened so fast
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/e46e96af-bd77-409a-964e-61802c043f80_zpsd848de7a.jpg
jht was staring in the distance, dreaming about his glorious days as football manager of great teams like FC Barcelona, Real Madrid, Inter Milan, Manchester City and The Kings' Pub Potbelly Stars.
Suddenly, something hit him on the head. He stared down and saw a ball shaped object.
"This is macabre... I don't want to play footy with a head."
"It's a ball, you stupid. A leather ball. Dates from the 1990 World Cup; it's the ball with which David Platt scored the 1-0 against the Belgians in the 120th minute."
"Seriously?" jht asked.
"Yeah."
"How did you get it?"
"Well, contrary to you, I don't play silly manager games; I actually collect the real thing."
"Great, let's play a game!"
Choxorn and Ibn-Khaldun came by and they saw both gentlemen discussing.
"Great, we can play 2 on 2."
"Indeed, we can," Tiaexz said, with a calm voice.
And so, the 4 survivors started to play soccer in the middle of the night.
The Revisorator was used as goal, which he didn't appreciate. Until Tiaexz, started to kick the ball so hard, that whoever received it, simply flew away.
And there flew jht, Choxorn and Ibn-Khaldun right in the Revisorator.
"Hattrick!" Tiaexz and the Revisorator yelled!
***
And suddenly it all happened so fast.
Sitting on a table, Tiaexz was enjoying another plate of stew. This was really paradise; three fresh bodies kept in a working refrigerator all for himself! This was a feast!
Alive (1/31):
Tiaexz - cannibal
Killed (21).
Abstain
autolycus
Darth Feather
LazyMcCrow
Montmorency
Diana Abnoba
Jolt - healer
Makrell - Wise old man
rickinator9 - grmph
GeneralHankerchief
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Ishmael
Yay!
edse - grmph
B-Wing - Insane Cop
Zack
TinCow
Csargo
jht
Ibn-Khaldun
Choxorn
Lynched (9).
Askthepizzaguy
HopAlongBunny - cannibal
El Barto
Ferret
Ironside
Kumquat
issaikhaan - cannibal and grmph
Chaotix - grmph
BSmith - emerging serial killer
WoG/Suicide
Replaced.
***
VERY CLOSE CANNIBAL VICTORY !!!!
Congratulations! Great job. Thank you all for participating; I hope you've had as much fun as I did.
I don't have much time now, but as promised to 'khaan, a bit of explanation about his demise.
When I had to start hosting, I wasn't prepared at all. But I wouldn't let the good people of the GR down, so I quickly set something up. Afraid that my game was perhaps not enough thought out and unbalanced, I created the Skully role. In the beginning, the Skully role didn't have any abilities at all, but I kept it in my sleeve, in case the game would turn out to be too unbalanced. After a while, I found that indeed, my game was unbalanced. The pro-town roles weren't really powerful : healer could just get the grmphs to talk, Wise Old Man got visions showing him the truth of what happened, but only after the facts, the Insane Cop was getting wrong results and would turn into a serial grmph killer once he used his vigilante ability (he was more a danger to town than help). That's why I gave Skully the ability to "push" one person each night. If he pushed a townie, the push would work as a protection; pushing a mafia would result in a block. When he pushed 'khaan, I suddenly realised that a dead player having a power role was perhaps a bit too much, so I pm'd to Abstain that he could only talk like a grmph (so only smileys and grmph sounds). I absolutely did not expect Abstain to manage to communicate with the players so well. But all of that wouldn't have made me feel bad, if it weren't that you pointed out in the thread that I violated my own rules: no abilities for dead players. It annoyed me and made me feel terribly guilty and that was why I destroyed Skully to remove his powers from play.
Not too surprised, but I have no regrets. Cannibals deserved to win. Good game.
QuickTopics?
seireikhaan
06-06-2013, 20:48
Wait... wut
johnhughthom
06-06-2013, 20:49
Ah, what a goal, I'll never forget that one.
Beskie is not allowed to celebrate this win, he has already admitted to me his inactivity earlier was shameful and worthy of wogging. Congratulations however to khaan and HopAlongBunny for managing to win, despite being lumbered with such a partner.
Thanks for the game Andres, great write ups!
Role pm's:
The Grmphs:
You are the 4 Grmphs.
You are called like this, because all 4 of you once fell victim of the cannibals roaming the wastelands outside.
If the cannibals deem you too skinny, they cut out your tongue and set you free, naked and without your belongings. The 4 of you survived miraculously, but these events had an impact on you, obviously.
Since you lost your tongue, you can no longer talk...
You are only allowed to use "Grmph" or other common interjections that are not words.
To vote, you have one small piece of paper each day on which you write "Vote: (name)".
In the thread, you communicate this as follows:
"Holds up piece of paper with Vote : (name)"
Since you have only one piece of paper per day, you cannot switch your votes.
Since you have a bound, you are also not allowed to vote for another "Grmph" for the entire game.
You obtain a major victory if at least 2 of you survive, a minor victory if only 1 Grmph survives. Death means defeat.
You are free to communicate with each other in private on a quicktopic forum you create yourself or by pm'ing each other.
From night 2 on, you'll be able to kill one person during the night. However, in order to be able to kill, the living Grmphs need to reach consensus. The only way to get a succesfull kill, is when each surviving Grmph pm's me the exact same kill order. Once you're down to 2, you can still kill, but succes rate will only be 33 %.
To make things interesting: one of you is mafia.
There's a healer in this game who can heal your condition. If that would happen, you will be able to talk in the thread in sentences not longer than 4 words/sentence; you are not allowed to edit your posts.. If you break those rules, you'll damage your mechanical tongue and will be put back to grmph status for the rest of the game.
During the period you can talk, you may not hint or allude to the fact that you know one of you is mafia. Feel free to attack each other in the thread, once you can talk, that is.
Andres.
Healer
You are the healer. Before the disaster happened, you were a famous surgeon.
Every night, you can decide to attempt to heal one of the Grmphs (but not on night 1).
If you succeed, you'll plant a mechanical tongue into his mouth that will allow him to speak again, be it a bit different.
If you succeed in healing a Grmph, your identity will be revealed to him.
Once the game starts, it'll be clear to you who the Grmph's are: they can't talk.
Andres.
Wise Old Man
You are the Wise Old Man. You are held in high esteem by all the good people of the wastelands, mainly just because you're old (nobody ever gets old in the wastelands, except you).
You claim to get visions every night. This is somehow true, allthough the value of those visions is questionable.
You are free to share your visions with the other players or not. It is possible that they'll completely misguide you, it's also possible there are clues in them.
Some nights, the visions will be so noisy, that some pieces of them will appear in the write-up.
Good luck.
Andres.
Insane Cop
Starting role pm:
Before the disaster, you were a young police officer in training. You never finished the academy, but you did remember a thing or two.
Each night, you can investigate a player. Results vary from utterly useless to conclusive evidence, depending on luck. Throughout the game, you'll gain more experience and the likelihood of your investigations becoming more useful will increase.
You also own a firearm. Unfortunately, you already used all your bullets in the outside world, except one, meaning you can kill only once at night in this game (but not on night 1). Use your bullet wisely.
Good luck.
Andres.
After unique vigilante kill:
You go back to your sleeping place, in shock about what you did.
Slowly, you start to realise that you have been deceived. Somebody messed up your investigations and you killed an innocent men!
It are the grmphs. They played with your head. They drove you crazy. They must DIE!
From now on, you will attempt to kill a grmph each night.
Each night, you need to send me a pm with the name of the grmphs you want to kill.
You have a 50 % succes chance and there's a small chance that you won't survive your attempt; but you don't care.
You have to kill the grmphs. Must kill them. They must die. You are obsessed with it. In fact, you are so obsessed with the grmphs, that in each post you make in the public thread, you will mention "grmph" or "grmphs" at least once.
Andres.
Emerging Serial Killer
You can't take it anymore. It's just too much. Not the killing happening around you. You can handle that. But you notice that soon, all food will be gone.
You don't want to end up outside anymore. The less there are of you, the longer you'll do with what's left of the food. And if you kill them all, nobody will notice how you secretly eat human flesh!
You just became insane and are now a serial killer. Each night, you have to pm me the name of one player. You have a 75 % chance of succes; hitting a power role, however, may have consequences.
A.
seireikhaan
06-06-2013, 20:59
Ah, what a goal, I'll never forget that one.
Beskie is not allowed to celebrate this win, he has already admitted to me his inactivity earlier was shameful and worthy of wogging. Congratulations however to khaan and HopAlongBunny for managing to win, despite being lumbered with such a partner.
Thanks for the game Andres, great write ups!
That's... just it. I didn't even know he *was* my partner. LOL. I thought it was Bsmith, but I guess he was just a sk. :laugh4: I'm so confused.
Mafia (http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/HqCfgFFmvt6)(???) qt. Also, grmph (http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/RNYXbZKAwen) qt.
HopAlongBunny
06-06-2013, 20:59
Thank you Andres! The game, the story and the write-ups were amazing! :2thumbsup:
And thanks to all the players that made this entertaining! My clever plan of getting lynched at the outset worked like a charm....:clown:
In fact I was sooo clueless that my defense of Tiaxesz in the late game was intended to get him lynched and take pressure off of BSmith :on_shame:
Ironside
06-06-2013, 21:02
Bah, guessed wrong on who was the cannibal grmph.
Congratulations to the winners. :bow:
I'm confused too... labeling mix-up?
Thanks again Andres! Your games are always great fun! Congrats to the cannibals!
And Suddenly, it all happened so fast
Sitting at a table, Tiaexz was enjoying another plate of stew. This was really paradise; three fresh bodies kept in a working refrigerator all for himself! This was a feast!
Slowly, he was chewing on a piece of Choxorn. After he had finished his plate, he opened the Revisorator and stared at the heads of his friends.
"No. Oh no! What have I done? What have I done? I didn' want to do this! Nooooo....!"
"Wake up, you idiot."
"Nooo!"
"WAKE UP!"
Suddenly, Tiaexz stared in the face of jht.
"You bloody idiot! At first nobody hears you. Then you start talking like a madman and now, now that tensions are high, you are screaming! Are you completely out of your mind?"
"I most certainly am not!" Tiaexz answered, while covering himself with mayonnaise.
"You most certainly act weird," jht grinned a bit uneasy, since he was standing on one leg, holding a bronze statue in his arms.
"What is this?" Choxorn asked, holding a butterfly in his hands.
"Well, that's a butterfly," Ibn-Khaldun said.
"Oh, a butterfly."
"And flowers!"
:daisy: :daisy: :flowers: :daisy: :daisy:
"And that?"
"Legalized marijuana!"
"Oh, cool."
:hippie: :hippie: :hippie: :hippie:
While the four of them were smoking pot, starting to feel rather funny, the Revisorator opened its' door.
"And it gets even better! I finally found the codes and I transformed myself to an endless well of cooled beer and delicious food!"
"All we need know are women!" the four said, and suddenly, four Swedish girls entered the dark room.
"Woohoo! Excellent!"
And so, it was there that the new world would start; a world of peace, love, happiness and an abundance of food, beer and legal marijuana... And a singing and dancing refrigerator who gained God status!
It was... paradise!
Alive (3/31):
Choxorn
Ibn-Khaldun
jht
Killed (21).
Abstain
autolycus
Darth Feather
LazyMcCrow
Montmorency
Diana Abnoba
Jolt - healer
Makrell - Wise old man
rickinator9 - grmph
GeneralHankerchief
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Ishmael
Yay!
edse - grmph
B-Wing - Insane Cop
Zack
TinCow
Csargo
jht
Ibn-Khaldun
Choxorn
Lynched (9).
Askthepizzaguy
HopAlongBunny - cannibal
El Barto
Ferret
Ironside
Kumquat
issaikhaan - cannibal and grmph
Chaotix - grmph
BSmith - cannibal
WoG/Suicide
Replaced.
***
VERY CLOSE SURVIVOR VICTORY!!!
Congratulations! Great job. Thank you all for participating; I hope you've had as much fun as I did.
seireikhaan
06-06-2013, 21:30
noooooooooooooooo
The Mafia quicktopic implies this is the correct ending...
But khaan said earlier in the grmph quicktopic that they had won the game.
So I am skeptical still! I don't know what to believe anymore! :laugh4:
I'm not sure how this ended either.... ~:confused:
Should take a look into my notes.
seireikhaan
06-06-2013, 21:38
The Mafia quicktopic implies this is the correct ending...
But khaan said earlier in the grmph quicktopic that they had won the game.
So I am skeptical still! I don't know what to believe anymore! :laugh4:
This, sadly, is the real one. I was essentially being a braggart and assuming Bsmith would get past the last round.
"And that's why you don't lurk."
~ J. Walter Weatherman
Sorry you got boned 'khaan. You should have had another round in you at a minimum.
HopAlongBunny
06-06-2013, 21:55
Yay!
Flowers for everyone! :on_gjoy:
El Barto
06-06-2013, 22:13
[SPOIL]Alive (3/31):
Choxorn
Ibn-Khaldun
jht
Killed (21).
Abstain
autolycus
Darth Feather
LazyMcCrow
Montmorency
Diana Abnoba
Jolt - healer
Makrell - Wise old man
rickinator9 - grmph
GeneralHankerchief
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Ishmael
Yay!
edse - grmph
B-Wing - Insane Cop
Zack
TinCow
Csargo
jht
Ibn-Khaldun
Choxorn
Lynched (9).
Askthepizzaguy
HopAlongBunny - cannibal
El Barto
Ferret
Ironside
Kumquat
issaikhaan - cannibal and grmph
Chaotix - grmph
BSmith - cannibal
I'm not sure how this ended either.... ~:confused:
Should take a look into my notes.
Your confusion is evident :D.
And don't edit my post this time. It's rude.
Your confusion is evident :D.And don't edit my post this time. It's rude.Sorry :shame: It was meant as a joke.
Darth Feather
06-06-2013, 22:25
A victory for the town!!!! (I think :laugh:)
Wait what... on the last one, I am not even on the list and JHT is both alive and dead!?
Ibn-Khaldun
06-06-2013, 22:26
Yay! I survived!
Nice game, Andres! :bow:
rickinator9
06-06-2013, 22:26
I don't get it. Where the hell is Tiaexz on that list?
Sorry Rickinator, I was a town all along.
Though I did get a message from Andres "Are you sure you are not the scum?" which I replied "Well, I haven't got a role message saying otherwise.." then Andres replied "Oh yes, you was the secret scum. Khaan was picking out your kill targets for you." Then he posted that first write up.
Ibn-Khaldun
06-06-2013, 22:29
It's not over?! :dizzy2:
But yes, now can we rule out that me saying I am town with authority is not scummy behaviour? :beam:
El Barto
06-06-2013, 22:49
We should rule you out of ever being town, Tiaexs Beskarsson.
We should rule you out of ever being town, Tiaexs Beskarsson.
That is the correct answer!
But yes, now can we rule out that me saying I am town with authority is not scummy behaviour? :beam:
I'll never rule anything out, though I admit your appeal to the ghosts of mafia past was somewhat effective on me. Didn't seem like something that you'd resort to as scum. For that reason, next time you do it I'll assume you're scum.
COUNTER TERRORISTS TOWN WIN!
Nicely done. Thanks for the game Andres, and for letting me have a say in writeups and the progression of the game. I thoroughly enjoyed it. (Especially the cricket writeup).
Re: Zack, khaan and smilies.
Andres told me after a night or two that being dead wasn't going to be the end, then a few days later said that i was gaining strength, eventually able to influence the writeup. I kept quiet and didn't say anything because I thought that the mafia would have a way to negate me (i.e. roleblocker). Eventually I got the ability to push, and I targeted Zack. Now my choice for Zack was based on a few things, mostly that he hadn't said anything in particular that would dissuade me from choosing him as a target. Secondly, it was the stage of the game he was quite likely to die, and I had a feeling that he was going to die and the fact that that he was experienced meant he was likely to be taken out at this stage of the game (the culling if you will). I was rewarded with some good luck in getting the right target. Incidentally, since I had no idea what the push did, I hoped that pushing zack would save him, and for khaan, I pushed him to stop him from killing as I thought he might be scum. Turns out I was right, and then I got my restriction but still managed to get the information I needed out there.
All in all a fun game, and I'm grateful for having something to do after being killed Night 1.
Ah, so it was as I thought. I did have a heavy suspicion that my healing ultimately did nothing and I was right. Still, nice game, thanks for hosting Andres. :)
Riedquat
06-07-2013, 01:43
Wow! Town won... after the fatalist posts from the grmphs I for sure wasn't expecting this...so Beskar is alive, dead or zombie?
Andres, a real pleasure being a total clueless townie in this game, and reading your excellent write ups. Thanks for hosting and enjoy your trip! :bow:
seireikhaan
06-07-2013, 01:55
First, congratulations to the Revisorator for his keen eye and ingenuity in communicating via smiley charade and grmphing. While I was and still am thoroughly displeased with that turn of events, I won't deny that it was extremely well played on your part.
That said, I'm going to gripe. Hardcore. Dead people should not have actual power. Period. Sorry for sounding like a sore loser, but getting ousted by someone who's already dead is a load of daiseys. The mafia hold no power over those already dead. There's a concept of counterplay that got thoroughly violated, and that pisses me off. Mafia start killing townies. Counter to that? Lynch them, block them at night, protect people they target. Mafia's counterplay to doctors or investigators? Kill them before they can oust them, or limit the damage after one of them gets revealed. I don't care that Visor got restricted in his speech, he still got power the mafia had no way of counteracting. It's incredibly frustrating, and it takes the power out of their hands. If people *ever* can have legitimate impact on a game beyond the grave, it completely destroys the whole purpose of the mafia. Please, for christ's sake, never, ever do this again. Anyone. Ever.
:daisy:
So... what exactly happened?
So... what exactly happened?
BSmith was the last scum, you won a townie victory :thumbsup:
l still think Tiaexz is guilty of something. :7jester:
Well I thoroughly enjoyed this game and found it awesomely intriguing. I'm gonna consider myself a winner, too, since I achieved my final goal of seeing all the Grmphs dead. :2thumbsup:
El Barto
06-07-2013, 03:47
l still think Tiaexz is guilty of something. :7jester:
Well I thoroughly enjoyed this game and found it awesomely intriguing. I'm gonna consider myself a winner, too,
I fully agree with this post, and would liek to state the same but won't in order to avoid needless repetition repetition.
HopAlongBunny
06-07-2013, 04:03
I fully agree with this post, and would liek to state the same but won't in order to avoid needless repetition repetition.
:bow:
l still think Tiaexz is guilty of something. :7jester:
Well I thoroughly enjoyed this game and found it awesomely intriguing. I'm gonna consider myself a winner, too, since I achieved my final goal of seeing all the Grmphs dead. :2thumbsup:
Guilty of getting me lynched? Yes. :laugh4:
I hope you all realize why I was being so cryptic and unhelpful during that phase now.
It wasn't because of the speech impediment. It was because I was literally forbidden from talking about almost everything that was on topic that day.
Was there a mafia grmph? Yes. It was khaan. But I wasn't allowed to tell you that.
How did I know there was a serial killer in addition to the mafia? Khaan had told me they had only two kills, and there were three and one of them was on edse. But I couldn't say any of that because I couldn't say I knew khaan was mafia.
So yeah. Before you lynched khaan, it would have been an entirely good idea to get rid of me too, because I had aligned myself with them for the endgame.
But after khaan was dead, I figured the mafia were finished and I was just out to survive it. You guys wound up winning anyway, but it was a close shave, and you didn't have to lynch me.
Anyway it was a good game. I had fun, though it really fell apart at the end.
Askthepizzaguy
06-07-2013, 05:40
First, congratulations to the Revisorator for his keen eye and ingenuity in communicating via smiley charade and grmphing. While I was and still am thoroughly displeased with that turn of events, I won't deny that it was extremely well played on your part.
That said, I'm going to gripe. Hardcore. Dead people should not have actual power. Period. Sorry for sounding like a sore loser, but getting ousted by someone who's already dead is a load of daiseys. The mafia hold no power over those already dead. There's a concept of counterplay that got thoroughly violated, and that pisses me off. Mafia start killing townies. Counter to that? Lynch them, block them at night, protect people they target. Mafia's counterplay to doctors or investigators? Kill them before they can oust them, or limit the damage after one of them gets revealed. I don't care that Visor got restricted in his speech, he still got power the mafia had no way of counteracting. It's incredibly frustrating, and it takes the power out of their hands. If people *ever* can have legitimate impact on a game beyond the grave, it completely destroys the whole purpose of the mafia. Please, for christ's sake, never, ever do this again. Anyone. Ever.
:daisy:
As I mentioned, if the person with the power wasn't eliminated after he caught a scumbag, it would have been a seriously broken power.
But yes, just having that power on a dead person at all, even with the handicap of not being able to speak, is still a bit busted.
Andres admits it's broken. I think we all agree it's broken. I can say it won't be happening in any of my games and I'd encourage the same to all other hosts.
Be creative but remember to be fair on all parties.
But of course, we must remember, it's a game thrown together for fun and experimental stuff isn't always balanced. If we were still keeping records, I wouldn't count this game as a W/L for anyone, because the game was so close that this particular break did decide the game pretty much.
Was fun being summoned from the grave. That was a nice shot, Beskar. It rang true as something a townie would do in desperation. I award you the pizzaguy prize.
Askthepizzaguy
06-07-2013, 05:47
I want to note that I helped lynch myself round one, and still managed to be counted as a winrar.
Clearly some wins are earned and others are freebies. But hey, you really needed those late game lynches and I was neither there to distract or to attract votes. Therefore I win! I believe self-congratulations are in order. YOU'RE WELCOME.
:clown: The clown means I not srs.
Guilty of getting me lynched? Yes. :laugh4:
I hope you all realize why I was being so cryptic and unhelpful during that phase now.
You was working with the scum, which I was right about.
Death to all the traitors! :ave:
As I mentioned, if the person with the power wasn't eliminated after he caught a scumbag, it would have been a seriously broken power.
I think it is overestimated. Abstain had a good role, but it wasn't -that- strong to be totally gamebreaking. It was just the fact that Abstain was insanely lucky and made some good calls which actually made it look imba. In reality, he could very easily gone the whole game without a single protection/roleblock. There were no other "pro-town" roles in the game at all. The 'Healer' was just flavour which means Jolt gets himself killed, and Wise-Old-Man gets gibberish.
The Mafia had in their disposal.. 6 players? (Mafia + Grmph who sided with them) and they were all 'role vetted'. They controlled 3 Kills a night, they controlled the day vote. Though through a combination of random lynches, few good calls by the town, Skully, and poor mafia-calls, they were eliminated.
Then again, 'khaan was on peoples radars, it just became concrete when Skully pulled the detective result out of the bag. He was second on my list after Chaotix (who was working with the Mafia) which is why I switched without hesitation.
So overall, the town actually did brilliantly for the situation at hand for a game which was actually imho balanced in the Mafia's favour.
Going to defend Andres here. I only ever had two nights of actual power. The first one, where I targeted Zack, and the second when I targeted Khaan. I didn't have any influence on the game (power wise) until the night Zack was saved.
Even then, saving zack in itself is not exactly broken, because I didn't have the killer. History turns out I manage to get the killer on the next night, and my power gone and speech gone.
The only reason things happened as they did was that I was a) able to correctly guess who was going to be murdered and b) correctly guess who was performing the murders.
Dead players with power shouldn't happen unless specified explicitly in the rules. However, it was mentioned it the writeups I was going to be able to do something. And maybe it was necessary considering the balance of the game, with the grmphs being neutral (basically mafia aligned to be honest). That said it was unbalancing factor with no particular counter. I feel that dead players with roles could happen, but in a different setup (I have a few in mind to try at some stage, it is finding the time that is difficult).
I'm not going to call the game balanced or determine whether it was a right decision just saying what happened. My power was broken after I caught a scumbag which was definitely important to the game.
Kinda disappointed that was BSmith was scum in the end.
So you actually only had two nights of actual Power?
That is definitely a mixture of skill and luck Abstain, Colour me impressed. :thumbsup:
So you actually only had two nights of actual Power?
That is definitely a mixture of skill and luck Abstain, Colour me impressed. :thumbsup:
Only two nights. Question: Did anyone notice the parts in writeup saying I was getting powers?
seireikhaan
06-07-2013, 06:42
I think it is overestimated. Abstain had a good role, but it wasn't -that- strong to be totally gamebreaking. It was just the fact that Abstain was insanely lucky and made some good calls which actually made it look imba. In reality, he could very easily gone the whole game without a single protection/roleblock. There were no other "pro-town" roles in the game at all. The 'Healer' was just flavour which means Jolt gets himself killed, and Wise-Old-Man gets gibberish.
The Mafia had in their disposal.. 6 players? (Mafia + Grmph who sided with them) and they were all 'role vetted'. They controlled 3 Kills a night, they controlled the day vote. Though through a combination of random lynches, few good calls by the town, Skully, and poor mafia-calls, they were eliminated.
Then again, 'khaan was on peoples radars, it just became concrete when Skully pulled the detective result out of the bag. He was second on my list after Chaotix (who was working with the Mafia) which is why I switched without hesitation.
So overall, the town actually did brilliantly for the situation at hand for a game which was actually imho balanced in the Mafia's favour.
What a load. I might've been on *your* radar, but nobody else was raising a hair of suspicion at me(preferring chaotix or Edse, instead).
The grmphs were strictly neutral - they would have won either way, as long as they survived. We also had a humongous red warning label over us by virtue of not being able to explain half of what we were doing or could do that said 'PLEASE LYNCH ME'. Being a grmph was not a particularly pleasant or easy thing. Perfect example being chaotix, who got lynched literally because he followed the rules the host laid out for him. Y'all *knew* I was mafia, and lynched chaotix anyways "just in case". Why do you think I argued so hard against Ironside's proposed 'scum within the grmphs' idea? Yes, it was true, absolutely. However, with no reveals, such an idea also necessitated the lynch of *all* the grmphs, "just in case". Hell, y'all even got your proposed "infiltrator" and then lynched chaotix anyways.
And I had to kill Rick off as a sacrificial offering to just alleviate the idea that the grmphs were the mafia with bright red stickers. Even further, grmph kills were easily highlighted by silent attackers, so we couldn't even do that once we found out how they'd get written up, because that'd just be another reason to get lynched. Grmphs had no legitimate power because we were completely identifiable in both day and night, with the only compensation for the giant target on their backs being that their win-con was just to survive.
Oh, and did we mention there was a serial killer whose job was specifically to kill grmphs? Yeah, sure is broken how much a help they are to the mafia, huh.
seireikhaan
06-07-2013, 06:44
Only two nights. Question: Did anyone notice the parts in writeup saying I was getting powers?
I originally assumed it was writeup flavor- skully was a pretty cool dude in the writeups, but I just assumed it was his deathness being an adorable braggart at first.
What a load. I might've been on *your* radar, but nobody else was raising a hair of suspicion at me(preferring chaotix or Edse, instead). Well, Abstain did for a start...
The grmphs were strictly neutral - they would have won either way, as long as they survived. We also had a humongous red warning label over us by virtue of not being able to explain half of what we were doing or could do that said 'PLEASE LYNCH ME'. Being a grmph was not a particularly pleasant or easy thing.
They were a novelty with a kill ability, which they could have used at anytime.
Perfect example being chaotix, who got lynched literally because he followed the rules the host laid out for him.
Actually, in the Role PM "Feel free to attack each other in the thread, once you can talk, that is."
... Chaotix was free to attack you and vote for you!
Y'all *knew* I was mafia, and lynched chaotix anyways "just in case". Why do you think I argued so hard against Ironside's proposed 'scum within the grmphs' idea? Yes, it was true, absolutely. However, with no reveals, such an idea also necessitated the lynch of *all* the grmphs, "just in case". Hell, y'all even got your proposed "infiltrator" and then lynched chaotix anyways.
Because Chaotix was working for you, aka the Mafia and it was pretty much self-evident?
And I had to kill Rick off as a sacrificial offering to just alleviate the idea that the grmphs were the mafia with bright red stickers.
No you didn't at all. Infact, attracting attention to the Grmphs would have been even better for you, since you still have your partners who were none grmphs so all the wasted day lynchs would have aided you.
Even further, grmph kills were easily highlighted by silent attackers, so we couldn't even do that once we found out how they'd get written up, because that'd just be another reason to get lynched. Grmphs had no legitimate power because we were completely identifiable in both day and night, with the only compensation for the giant target on their backs being that their win-con was just to survive. Or they could have killed regardless, saying they were a masonic group... but you know, killing off your own assets and not using their kill sure worked in your favour!
Oh, and did we mention there was a serial killer whose job was specifically to kill grmphs? Yeah, sure is broken how much a help they are to the mafia, huh.
You mean the one with fake investigation results and shot GeneralHandkerchief? That sure showed them Grmph's. Along with the 50/50 chance.
I have to admit, reading what the Mafia had post-game, I don't see why you didn't get your 'Mafia Victory' and 'enjoy rubbing it into peoples faces'. You was so confident of it too, despite getting Skullied. Hiding behind the 'Grmph' role whilst making those statements doesn't deflect from the facts. :shrug:
seireikhaan
06-07-2013, 07:29
Well, Abstain did for a start...
Fair enough.
They were a novelty with a kill ability, which they could have used at anytime.
Oh cool, getting to be a novelty that puts a giant target on your back. Totally worth.
Actually, in the Role PM "Feel free to attack each other in the thread, once you can talk, that is."
... Chaotix was free to attack you and vote for you!
Noap. Read it again. Sure, he could say bad stuff about me and say I'm scummy, but he could not vote for me. Reading comprehension ftw.
Because Chaotix was working for you, aka the Mafia and it was pretty much self-evident?
Not till pretty late in the game, because I didn't feel like risking it until the rest of the grmphs began to despair over the impossibility of how to deal with a mafia they couldn't reveal. Revealing day one would've been dumb, since they could've just pulled the "hey, you guys should totally vote for this person, we just can't say why or vote for them" thing.
No you didn't at all. Infact, attracting attention to the Grmphs would have been even better for you, since you still have your partners who were none grmphs so all the wasted day lynchs would have aided you.
Or they could have killed regardless, saying they were a masonic group... but you know, killing off your own assets and not using their kill sure worked in your favour!
Reading the thread was apparently too hard for you. Oh right, you weren't paying attention at that point, of course. Anyways, if you had been, you would've noticed that there were a number of rumblings in the thread about simply disposing of the grmphs just in case they were a bizarre red-tagged mafia or scum group.
You mean the one with fake investigation results and shot GeneralHandkerchief? That sure showed them Grmph's. Along with the 50/50 chance.
You mean the one that killed one grmph and sealed the other's lynch just because he survive. Yeah, you're damn right he showed them.
I have to admit, reading what the Mafia had post-game, I don't see why you didn't get your 'Mafia Victory' and 'enjoy rubbing it into peoples faces'. You was so confident of it too, despite getting Skullied. Hiding behind the 'Grmph' role whilst making those statements doesn't deflect from the facts. :shrug:
I admit, I was pretty aggravated when I made that post. Oh wait, still am. Oh well. I'm out anyways.
Later y'all.
You mean the one that killed one grmph and sealed the other's lynch just because he survive. Yeah, you're damn right he showed them.
Actually, I thought the attack on Chaotix was self-inflicted in order to divert attention away from him at first. Unfortunately, no one claimed to be any sort of protector, then the 'If there is a Grmph killer and he cannot kill a Grmph, then he must be scum!'.
Even then, you was Mafia first, Grmph second. So exploiting the grmphs was in your best interest. No need to have killed Rick, for example, that was a pointless kill and it only hastened their deaths and it worked counter to your "Everyone is after the Grmphs" theory.
Noap. Read it again. Sure, he could say bad stuff about me and say I'm scummy, but he could not vote for me.
I skimmed over the line by accident. Even then, Chaotix could pretty much pointed a big red finger at you. You also commented in your reply that you never revealed earlier because they could simply say you were the scum, but you argue that Choatix was let down by the game rules as he couldn't do that.
Reading the thread was apparently too hard for you. Oh right, you weren't paying attention at that point, of course. Anyways, if you had been, you would've noticed that there were a number of rumblings in the thread about simply disposing of the grmphs just in case they were a bizarre red-tagged mafia or scum group And how was this not to be expected ? Any sort of groupings have suspicions since they have been infiltrated so many times. Having them lynched off works in your favour, especially since BSmith was below the radar. Buying another lynch or two would have cemented your victory.
I admit, I was pretty aggravated when I made that post. Oh wait, still am. Oh well. I'm out anyways.
It is that bravado which keeps me alive in Mafia games. Too scummy to night kill, not scummy enough to lynch. It is all about treading a fine-line. I think from the 'Calling the Ghosts of Mafia past' you can tell I have some flair for the dramatics in order to bolster my chances of survival and it makes the game more interesting.
I also overemphasis on points to make them purposefully stand-out, put simply: "Of course, I slayed the Mighty 'Khaan and his Vile Accomplice, the Chaotix! Bow to Me unworthy ones! I shall save the Town as Captain Townie, the Lord Survivor!"
I also litter little Easter Eggs everywhere. In reply to Rick, with the Song, I said "Town of a Different Coat". I didn't say "You were all scum or traitors" or think them fundamentally bad. I didn't declare war on the Grmphs, but spicing that up came in my favour since people were convinced I was some sort of 'Anti-Grmph but Good Guy' role which I capitalised on since TinCow's remark. I wasn't such a role, but having the town think so to take out a Lurker-scum was a pretty good ploy!
Honestly? Take anything I say in a Mafia game with a pinch of salt. :beam:
Let's try to keep the tone more civil in here, guys.
I understand tensions can still be high after the outcome of a controversial game, but it's all about having fun in the end. If you're not having fun, perhaps best to take a minute to cool down.
This is the Gameroom, not the Backroom! :clown:
I apologise if some of the game designs/mechanics caused distress. I agree that allowing dead players to have powers was a mistake and I should've chosen another solution, like e.g. Kommodus did in Cosa Nuava II (sp?): sending letters to a few townies to give them limited pro-town abilities to balance the game better. 'khaan is right that a dead power role is frustrating. My mistake, my failure, I'm sorry.
That said, just like sore losers are frowned upon, so are winners who brag about their victory and who are not compassionate about the feelings of those who lost the game. Provoking a player who is clearly very disappointed and pouring salts in his wounds is very bad form and I hope I'll never see it happening again in one of the games I hosted.
Sportsmanship has always been very important in the Gameroom. If we want this place to continue to be the pleasant and fun place it has always been, then we need to keep the notion sportsmanship in mind, not only during the game, but also after the game.
:bow:
Ironside
06-07-2013, 09:26
The grmphs were strictly neutral - they would have won either way, as long as they survived. We also had a humongous red warning label over us by virtue of not being able to explain half of what we were doing or could do that said 'PLEASE LYNCH ME'. Being a grmph was not a particularly pleasant or easy thing. Perfect example being chaotix, who got lynched literally because he followed the rules the host laid out for him. Y'all *knew* I was mafia, and lynched chaotix anyways "just in case". Why do you think I argued so hard against Ironside's proposed 'scum within the grmphs' idea? Yes, it was true, absolutely. However, with no reveals, such an idea also necessitated the lynch of *all* the grmphs, "just in case". Hell, y'all even got your proposed "infiltrator" and then lynched chaotix anyways.
So basically, the town needed to lynch 4 people to get 1 mafia if they guessed correctly? And the only extra help was from an insane cop, who are biased towards using his vig (and then getting crazy) late in game. I can see why Andres needed to balance the game a bit more. Maybe graft the power of the skull to a living player or something, but this was more or less a 6 scum in a 30 player game, as long as you counted on dying with the other grmph to make a cover screen. If the grmph or mafia would survive for a while, and B-wing dying early, you've won the game for certain at 12 players left during a night phase. Sacrificing the grmps (by making them kill) = certain victory at 20 players left after lynch. Minor victory for grmphs as well, 18 players, major at 17 players.
Or to put it this way, had you not killed rickinator before my lynch and a lucky lynch on HopAlongBunny, you could've entered endgame attempt after my lynch and the only one capable of stopping you was B-wing...
Askthepizzaguy
06-07-2013, 09:27
Is it any wonder why I don't frequent the Backroom very much?
Perhaps I've become a flower child in my old age, and I just want to get along with most everyone.
But yeah, mafia games can cause emotional flares. It's probably why I'm addicted to the game. I actually get a thrill when stuff is on the line and I have to make a decision with not enough info. I get a thrill when the outcome is either I lose horribly or I redeem myself. I get a thrill when everyone thinks I'm scum and I have to say something to convince them otherwise, or lose.
Stuff can get irritating though. It happens to everybody, especially when you put out your best effort and something unexpected and design-related trips you up, and you lose because of that. Then it's hard to shake hands afterwards and say good game, and even when you go ahead and do that, there's a small part of you that says Hey, I just got ripped off. It's not as much fun.
My sympathies lie with the folks that gave it their best and still got boned.
Just like to say a few more things, no, I don't think we played brilliantly (tiaezx) and khaan played a very good game as mafia.
Enjoy your trip Andres.
Gaius Scribonius Curio
06-07-2013, 10:17
Thank you Andres for an exciting and unpredictable game. I too hope that you have a great trip! :bow:
rickinator9
06-07-2013, 12:43
The one game it goes well for me I am killed by one of my colleagues. Thanks Issaikhaan, I trusted you.
Anyway, I liked the game, but I'm still confused about the ending. What the hell happened?
HopAlongBunny
06-07-2013, 13:13
What the hell happened?
:elephant::elephant::elephant: Town Victory :elephant::elephant::elephant:
:cheerleader::cheerleader:
FWIW, I think it is a GREAT idea to give the poor bastard who's killed N1 something interesting to do during the rest of the game. Those people tend to drop out at a far higher rate that anyone else, so exploring avenues of keeping them active is a really good idea. This method might not be it, but that doesn't invalidate the underlying premise itself.
My apologies to 'khaan. After a few comments I read I ended over stepping myself with a few of my own in the thread. I shouldn't have dropped to that standard. I do genuinely feel on balancing concerns I do not share the same opinions as him and there were couple of legitimate criticisms on those too but anything which can be labelled 'salt rubbing' was wrong of me to do and sorry for offending and upsetting you in those regards. :bow:
Ironside
06-07-2013, 20:31
FWIW, I think it is a GREAT idea to give the poor bastard who's killed N1 something interesting to do during the rest of the game. Those people tend to drop out at a far higher rate that anyone else, so exploring avenues of keeping them active is a really good idea. This method might not be it, but that doesn't invalidate the underlying premise itself.
Skully's powers joining a random townie (so you got a team), where skully cannot reveal in thread would work as a solution imho.
johnhughthom
06-07-2013, 21:00
:thumbsdown:
Beskie returns to mafia, and it all goes downhill. Who didn't see that one coming?
Safety smilie: :clown:
Askthepizzaguy
06-07-2013, 21:27
FWIW, I think it is a GREAT idea to give the poor bastard who's killed N1 something interesting to do during the rest of the game. Those people tend to drop out at a far higher rate that anyone else, so exploring avenues of keeping them active is a really good idea. This method might not be it, but that doesn't invalidate the underlying premise itself.
I concur. But it seems to me their role could be more neutral.... something like what a host does. Inventing cruel ways to decide ties, for example. Perhaps creating crises out of nowhere. Generally, to have fun and spread misery (and thus, fun for the rest of us).
Could be an interesting role. Tormentor of souls....
I concur. But it seems to me their role could be more neutral.... something like what a host does. Inventing cruel ways to decide ties, for example. Perhaps creating crises out of nowhere. Generally, to have fun and spread misery (and thus, fun for the rest of us).
Could be an interesting role. Tormentor of souls....
It could even be formalized in a way. Perhaps the first person to dies actually gets a specific role with different objectives and such; ones that do not favor any team, but do somehow promote the game itself. Maybe something about the more posts the game gets determines their victory or something similar... some reason for the player to want to drag things out, playing sides off against one another. This role-on-death could even be announced in the rules itself, which would cause an interesting situation for the mafia. Instead of killing randomly the first few nights, they might instead want to target a specific person or avoid a specific person based on who they do or do not want to see in that role. That decision itself would be interesting.
I concur. But it seems to me their role could be more neutral.... something like what a host does. Inventing cruel ways to decide ties, for example. Perhaps creating crises out of nowhere. Generally, to have fun and spread misery (and thus, fun for the rest of us).
Could be an interesting role. Tormentor of souls....
Well, that's sort of what I imagined myself as during your Cold-Blooded Murder.
Although I wasn't actually the first person killed, it seemed a pretty similar situation to what you just described.
It could even be formalized in a way. Perhaps the first person to dies actually gets a specific role with different objectives and such; ones that do not favor any team, but do somehow promote the game itself. Maybe something about the more posts the game gets determines their victory or something similar... some reason for the player to want to drag things out, playing sides off against one another. This role-on-death could even be announced in the rules itself, which would cause an interesting situation for the mafia. Instead of killing randomly the first few nights, they might instead want to target a specific person or avoid a specific person based on who they do or do not want to see in that role. That decision itself would be interesting.
I think my basic line of thought was more or less following the same pattern. I kept the Skully role up my sleeve to have an ability to influence the game. Balance was my main concern and if the game would have been too much in favour of the town (say, the grmphs actively playing anti-mafia, the insane cop figuring out his insanity and using his ability of investigating for real town purpose), then the Skully role would have been able to grant the mafia an extra kill.
Instead of aiming for balance, such a role could also be used indeed to make the game last longer, make it more interesting and intense. Perhaps next time, I should consider it as a mastermind role with the goal of making the game last as long as possible, without being on one of the teams. Ironically, I had Skully in mind as deus ex machina to make this game advance faster, but yes, next time I may as well create something like that; a role whose sole purpose is to keep the game going or to spark discussion by making odd moves; not sure if it should be a dead guy, but there is something to say for giving the poor guy who dies first something that still makes the game fun for him and in the proces, more fun for the other players.
Bah. N1 Deaths should just do what I did in Choose Your Own Adventure and haunt the living players with silly comments all game so we get acknowledged for our hilarity by the host at the end. :p
Back in my day, we were killed Night One AND WE LIKED IT.
El Barto
06-08-2013, 02:41
All this 'in my time' talk got me to read Camikaze's LotR mafia, why do you people do these things to me? I managed to tear myself away after a couple hudnred posts. Grraaaghh.
N1 is different to N0. N1 you still have the first day to vote for mafia (however unlikely). N0 you have had no impact on the game at all.
Back in my day, we were killed Night One AND WE LIKED IT.
Back in my day, we didn't random.org our N1 kills. We killed people just to piss them off and to make good players less likely to spot us, preferably both.
Now we just do that every other night.
El Barto
06-08-2013, 03:53
Well then you'd make a crappy mafia. Zack should die more on N1 IMHO, he'd have more time to host Zack Mafias.
Back in my day, on night one, Pizza was night killed, and when he wasn't night killed, he was lynched. In my very first mafia game, he even threw himself under the bus day one so I could have a chance to continue playing, and it was this kindness of his which made me stick around to continue till today!
So it is Pizza's fault I am here! :clown:
Askthepizzaguy
06-08-2013, 09:59
Back in my day, on night one, Pizza was night killed, and when he wasn't night killed, he was lynched. In my very first mafia game, he even threw himself under the bus day one so I could have a chance to continue playing, and it was this kindness of his which made me stick around to continue till today!
So it is Pizza's fault I am here! :clown:
You refer of course to the great game wherein even TosaInu played. You were called Tiberius Beskar at the time. And yes, I completely committed seppuku in that game as I didn't feel like putting up an enormous fight to stay alive.
And it's Andres' fault I'm here. He kept pestering me with mafia ads when I just wanted to be Blitzing folks and duelling them to death on M2TW. If he had just left me in peace, y'all would never have seen my butt in the gameroom ever.
He even invited me to Capo II (IIRC). Can you imagine the nonsense that would have been?
johnhughthom
06-08-2013, 10:06
Capo 2, my first ever mafia game, and the one were Sasaki scared me away from mafia for a year. Without really doing anything.
Askthepizzaguy
06-08-2013, 10:17
Capo 2, my first ever mafia game, and the one were Sasaki scared me away from mafia for a year. Without really doing anything.
Sasaki taught me the value of lying, even while townie.
El Barto
06-09-2013, 00:02
What? Townies are supposed to tell the truth?
Darth Feather
06-09-2013, 08:47
What? Townies are supposed to tell the truth?
Yes, but there is the truth :no: and the truth :yes:
El Barto
06-09-2013, 20:40
Riiiight…
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