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Riedquat
11-22-2013, 20:00
That would prove nothing, I wouldn't put it past the Host to have two faulty scanners in the same game. For what I read in Pratia II he thrives on confusion, the obvious answer is always the opposite of what you expect, etc etc...

Is there another choice though? If they're both faulty, but give the same or even different results, how do you interpret those results?

And don't forget the three of us must survive the night! But I don't think there could be two faulty scanners... it is a bit to detrimental for town and considering in the previous game we had 3 doctors and a solid scanner... well, I don't know...

rickinator9
11-22-2013, 20:01
ay... yay..yayayyyy! Unvote, vote: abstain

Last time we started revealing things didn't end very well... but now we are here, I must ask who do you scanned so far?

Darth Feather and you. I didn't trust you, you could have been a lying scum. Both of you came out innocent.

Zain
11-22-2013, 22:22
Lynch Vote
Abstain: 4 (dc, Ried, I-K, DF)
Lux: 2 (Ishmael, rick)
Ibn-Khaldun: 2 (Makrell, Smith)
Darth Feather: 1 (Lux)
rickinator9: 1 (edse)

Non-voting: crys

Action Vote
Leave: 5 (rick, smith, Ishmael, I-K, Lux)
Seek: 4 (Ried, DF, dc, edse)
Stay: 1 (Makrell)

Non-voting: crys

Time Remaining:

Darth Feather
11-22-2013, 22:57
vote: abstain for now. I am still not certain who I should vote. I am not liking any of the candidates right now

Zain
11-23-2013, 03:27
I will be extending this phase 24 hours due to an excess of confusion and lack of cohesion.

Riedquat
11-23-2013, 05:57
I don't see how we could be less confused... I can see more cohesion with more abstainers, considering some people perhaps missed IK's reveal...

So meanwhile I will vote: crys expecting him at least to show up!

Lux
11-23-2013, 06:33
What we got here is...failure to communicate.

Sorry, couldn't resist a movie quote. :3

I think the mafia knows lerkers are lynched so they'd avoid the bottom wisely...*cough*...So I originally chose someone from the top/middle. Darth Feather looked as good as any. But for the sake of ending this day I'm choosing I-K now, seems like there's a bit of a bandwagon going for him. We know there are "at least" two mafia. They are probably collaborating behind scenes, time's-a-tickin' this group's got to work together. I Followed the last Pratia closely, it went to the mafia. Really clever work, but there was just one mafia. Now there could be more! Break out the peace pipe, gents or we'll all be picked off one by one...cheery thought!

Unvote: Vote: Ibn-Khaldun. Vote: leave

crys
11-23-2013, 15:35
vote abstain
Vote leave

Darth Feather
11-23-2013, 15:41
vote abstain
Vote leave

No, don't it is bad. We should seek the old men. Leaving will give them the advantage. The best defense is the offense.

Zain
11-23-2013, 16:21
Alright our final voter has posted and not much happened overnight, usually there's a lot going on. I will end this round once I post the write-up in about an hour if everybody's cool with that.

Scheduling issue last night plus I didn't expect as many abstain's.

Apologies for the inconsistency :bow:

edit:

Already got some PMs about people wanting to change their minds. Rounds ends as scheduled.

Timer is on post #255 and as always post #1

Lynch Vote Tally:
Abstain: 4 (dc, DF, I-K, crys)
Ibn-Khaldun: 3 (Makrell, Smith, Lux)
Lux: 2 (Ishmael, rick)
rickinator9: 1 (edse)
crys: 1 (Ried)

Action Vote Tally:
Leave: 5 (Ishmael, Smith, rick, I-K, crys)
Seek Out: 5 (Ried, DF, dc, edse, Lux post #261)
Stay: 1 (Makrell)

Lux
11-23-2013, 16:38
I was one of those people, and this is why:

I was thinking about traveling off, and I realized the folly in following a known killer, our current clan leader, into never never land. He very well could lead us to certain and instant death. Although not ideal, I think we should seek out our neighbors. Who knows, they may kill off our leader to take control or as an example and do our dirty work for us. Wouldn't that be nifty?? And perhaps they have peaches...

Vote: Ibn-Khaldun. Unvote: Vote: Seek out

Riedquat
11-23-2013, 16:48
What we got here is...failure to communicate.

Sorry, couldn't resist a movie quote. :3

I think the mafia knows lerkers are lynched so they'd avoid the bottom wisely...*cough*...So I originally chose someone from the top/middle. Darth Feather looked as good as any. But for the sake of ending this day I'm choosing I-K now, seems like there's a bit of a bandwagon going for him. We know there are "at least" two mafia. They are probably collaborating behind scenes, time's-a-tickin' this group's got to work together. I Followed the last Pratia closely, it went to the mafia. Really clever work, but there was just one mafia. Now there could be more! Break out the peace pipe, gents or we'll all be picked off one by one...cheery thought!

Unvote: Vote: Ibn-Khaldun. Vote: leave

:inquisitive: So lets get this straight, you followed closely the other game, so I guess you are following this one more closely yet as you are participating but still you place your vote in a bandwagon. Do you realize I-K claimed doctor and you still think he is a good candidate, because...? The small probability I got my scan right? Or because the other wagon is on you? :inquisitive:


vote abstain
Vote leave

This is not good enough! We need the whys of each decision.


Btw people, everybody reconsider the options of leaving, staying or seeking out, I'm convinced by what the host said this is the most important decision we must take, also I think for this very reason we got the extension, with so many doubts we all can abstain for the lynch and tomorrow have one more of us to decide, but we wont get a second chance to chose where to go!

Darth Feather
11-23-2013, 16:52
I abstained as well but I just don't like any of the leading suspects. the vote on Lux seems random. Lynching Rickinator might lynch us a GOOD detective and Ibn-Khaldun should get the benefit of the doubt.

I might be convinced to vote Crys due to her non-communication.

Zain
11-23-2013, 16:57
I might be convinced to vote Crys due to his non-communication.

Crys is FEMALE

Darth Feather
11-23-2013, 17:12
Fixed it, I would like to apologise a million times .

Zain
11-23-2013, 17:13
Fixed it, I would like to apologise a million times .

You're not the only one, I just cant find the other posts.

Just looking out for my players :yes:

edit:

Real quick, how many of you actually refer to the first post and the Pratia - Information Summary?

I update them both regularly, just seeing if it's worth my efforts.

Thanks :bow:

Riedquat
11-23-2013, 18:04
I abstained as well but I just don't like any of the leading suspects. the vote on Lux seems random. Lynching Rickinator might lynch us a GOOD detective and Ibn-Khaldun should get the benefit of the doubt.

I might be convinced to vote Crys due to her non-communication.

It wasn't directing it at you or IK, with all the participation in this phase your motives to abstain are more than justified! :)

Dcmort and crys... dcmort at least gave away a short explanation why to leave.

rickinator9
11-23-2013, 18:17
You're not the only one, I just cant find the other posts.

Just looking out for my players :yes:

edit:

Real quick, how many of you actually refer to the first post and the Pratia - Information Summary?

I update them both regularly, just seeing if it's worth my efforts.

Thanks :bow:

I check them when I need to be sure of something.

Riedquat
11-23-2013, 21:08
... how many of you actually refer to the first post and the Pratia - Information Summary?

I update them both regularly, just seeing if it's worth my efforts.


I just checked it once in this game, but I'm sure I will check it more as game advance ;)

Ishmael
11-23-2013, 21:32
I just checked it once in this game, but I'm sure I will check it more as game advance ;)

Same here, last game I found it very useful to have all the write-ups in one place, given the clues they contain.

Zain
11-24-2013, 03:58
The Fourth Day

Aaron Anduin's eyes opened to the sun creeping through the trees, birds singing, and the smell of dew atop the morning ground. He stumbled outside, sliding on his shoes beforehand, and drank some of the stream water. He stood up, facing away from the cave, closed his eyes and took in his surroundings. "Sure is nice out..." he said to himself.

"Yeah it is." Came Michael's voice far down the stream. He was bending down, washing out his shirt. "Some could say it was a blessing..."

Aaron didn't understand, still groggy from the night. "What do you mean?"

Michael stood up, wringing out the shirt. "I mean a few days ago we were sleeping in a concrete block, now out here in nature, feels right."

Aaron didn't respond, just sort of nodded and looked back out towards the trees across the stream. Panic started in the cave and the two men turned and ran towards the sound.

"What happened?" Michael asked entering the cave.

A woman was over Dorian's body. Her hands covered in blood as she curled his head, everyone else surrounding her. "He's dead!" She screamed.

The group went back and forth, accusations, alibis, until finally they chose to postpone their verdict. "We don't have any evidence, just a body..." One man said. Another woman returned, "It's too dangerous here! I'm not sleeping knowing a murderer is among us!"

"We need to leave, seek out those men from a few days ago. Maybe they can help us!"

"No, we just need to leave, set out and find a newer beginning. This place has been tainted with blood!"

All day they argued, until finally they chose to leave. They were going to avoid making contact with the men from before, just set out and hopefully weed out their murderer in the process.

And so they did...

Night 4 begins! It will end in 24 hours if we can get all of the PMs in. Things are about to start happening, I'm glad you all chose to leave the cave. :evil:

Time Remaining:

Now is the time when your discussions will matter, you've entered MY world. Good luck to you all :bow:

Riedquat
11-24-2013, 06:46
:inquisitive: What happened with the lynch, or the lack of? Abstain won?


I'm glad you all chose to leave the cave. :evil:

:hide:


you've entered MY world

Since we joined the game...no?

Zain
11-24-2013, 06:47
Abstain won, yes.

I'm just excited for what's coming :)

Ishmael
11-24-2013, 07:23
Things are about to start happening, I'm glad you all chose to leave the cave. :evil:


I have a sudden feeling that it may be beneficial to my health to start posting frantically.

Darth Feather
11-24-2013, 14:15
So abstain was the same as no lynch? Then I would not have abstained, because I don't like no lynch (especially if later-on in the game there are game phases without lynch like phase 4 in pratia II)

Zain
11-24-2013, 14:32
So abstain was the same as no lynch? Then I would not have abstained, because I don't like no lynch (especially if later-on in the game there are game phases without lynch like phase 4 in pratia II)

There will not be.

Perhaps I should have made it clear what majority "abstain" means? I figured it was pretty self explanatory..

Darth Feather
11-24-2013, 14:35
There will not be.

Perhaps I should have made it clear what majority "abstain" means? I figured it was pretty self explanatory..

That's true. I didn't think about it long enough :yes:

Lux
11-24-2013, 16:20
Come out of the cave walking on your hands...

Makrell
11-24-2013, 19:02
We mightve made a terrible mistakE!!!!

edse
11-24-2013, 19:10
No, we didn't, only some of us did.

Makrell
11-24-2013, 19:45
No, we didn't, only some of us did.

I agree, i meant everyone but me did. I have no desire to leave this cave, if i could walk back in i would.

Lux
11-24-2013, 21:09
I'm afraid of what's out there for us with a murderer as our leader...

dcmort93
11-25-2013, 03:16
It appears that things just got interesting then friends

Zain
11-25-2013, 13:25
Hey all! Sorry for the delay, I'll be posting the write-up this afternoon!

Amount of discussion wasn't good though, don't want to say what repercussions this will have... :no:

Good day!

Makrell
11-25-2013, 14:38
Discussion in the night or dayphase?

Darth Feather
11-25-2013, 15:48
Discussion in the night or dayphase?

I suspect night fase. Damn, that means mass death in the morning :hide:

Makrell
11-25-2013, 18:24
Seems to me that Aaron and Michael want to stay, or atleast seek out the people, maybe its a clue and michael is in the stay or seek out branch of our ragtag group

edse
11-25-2013, 18:28
Seems to me that Aaron and Michael want to stay, or atleast seek out the people, maybe its a clue and michael is in the stay or seek out branch of our ragtag group

I don't think we should assume that. The first part of the write-up is seperate from the other.

Makrell
11-25-2013, 18:37
I don't think we should assume that. The first part of the write-up is seperate from the other.
But the first part clearly show love for the area we are currently in, and does not wish for much change(leave) It even mentions us earlier sleeping on concrete, and liking it better here, calling this place a blessing.

Zain
11-25-2013, 19:37
The Fourth Night

Night went on, people stayed busy gathering their things and paranoid for their lives. People slept off and on, but never at one point was Michael and his partner the only people awake.

Particularly one pair of eyes stayed open all night, keeping a watchful eye on her fellow people, and especially Michael.

Around sun-up despite the resistance from a few members the group departed, leaving South towards the coast, and further away from the Praters.

Aaron Anduin, son of the legendary Areos Anduin, led the way. He didn't do this intentionally, for his expertise in the land was no more superior or inferior than his compatriots, but his desire to rid his memory of the evils he had witnessed drove him.

Hours into their trip, they spotted a small pack of people ahead of them on the trail. They stopped, all eleven of them, simultaneously, and hunkered down off the path and out of site.

Michael spoke first, "We outnumber them 3 to 1. They pose no threat to us. What do you think?"

Another man spoke, "I agree, I think we should just keep traveling and if they try anything we can take them."

A woman responded, "With what weapons? What if they have guns? We don't have guns..."

The debate continued until a noise up the path startled them. Two men and a woman approached them, and before they had time to react one of the men lifted his hands, palms towards them. "We're friends!" The other two did the same, hands out. "Are you all from Mobile!?"

Michael stood up, as did the rest of them, "Who's asking?"

The man returned, "My name is Charlie, this is Bret, and her name is Leigha. We were attacked by the Praters in Mobile a few days back. We've been wondering around since." He slowly lowered his hands and squinted his eyes a bit, "You were there! I remember you!"

Michael's face didn't break, "Oh?"

"Yeah! That Prater spy attacked you but that old drifter saved you... I watched him mix his herbs and even brought him some water to use."

Michael's face lightened up a little, "So all three of you were there?"

Charlie answered, "We escaped together and have been living on the road since... Decided yesterday to head to the coast."

Michael wasn't fully convinced, when Aaron spoke up, "How did Ryan die?"

Charlie's countenance immediately dropped, his eyes to the ground, "Captain Battle put a bullet in his head thinking he was the spy... Obviously he wasn't..."

Aaron whispered in Michael's ear, "They were there..."

Michael looked back at the crowd, the people he was pretending to care about. Their faces showed mixed emotions, but they knew so much about Mobile, they had to be there. Right?

Michael turned to the three of them, "What do you want?"

Charlie answered, his shoulders relaxing, "You're the first people we've seen since the attack, and we're all Mobilians. We need to work together, or we'll die alone."

Michael recognized the partial quote from Ryan Cavanaugh back at the Outpost, three pieces of evidence.

Michael approached Charlie, "I'm convinced you were there, or at least you knew someone who was. But that doesn't mean I trust you or your friends." He looked back at the group, "I think they should come with us, maybe they can help us find our murderer."

"Murderer?" Charlie asked.

"Yeah, the spy is among us. Or another one. Either way, we need help finding them."

Charlie stepped up, "My father was a soldier for the Mobilian army, he taught me a lot. If you let us join you, I promise we'll help you find your mole."

Michael stepped up, a little too close to Charlie, tone of voice dropping, "That's fine, but if I just as much as think you're lying, I'll beat your ass into the ground."

Charlie, despite the threat, smiled. "Yes sir!"

Explanation:
No kill tonight, clues as to why are in the write-up. Discuss why and the truth will surface quickly.

As to what just happened, three players have joined the game as Charlie, Brett, and Leigha. They will be added to the "living players list" in the first post and will from here on out be considered active players. Their role pms will be sent after this write-up is posted.

Are they trustworthy? Are they lying? They could be a huge asset, what with three extra townies to assist you. Or they all could be Prater spies, here to end your lives. What's the truth? That's for you to figure out. Good luck to you all :bow:

Day Phase 5 has begun!
Time Remaining:

Zain
11-25-2013, 19:50
Visorslash I am unable to send you your role PM on account of your storage capacity has been reached.

Also if anyone is wondering, yes three players have been added to our list. Our very own Visorslash, and after asking many others and even those who have died, Chief Pappy accepted the invitation as well as my coworker who will be trying to access his old account soon. I believe his name was crossroad so that name has been added, but if it's something else I will change it and any votes for him will count.

Their roles have been selected, this round will most likely be subject to extension but let's just see how things go.

This is the fun part I've been talking about :2thumbsup:

Riedquat
11-25-2013, 20:19
This game is epic!

Visor, crossroads and back from death Chief Pappy... Now, I'm lacking a result pm? Or it is just my imagination?


Particularly one pair of eyes stayed open all night, keeping a watchful eye on her fellow people, and especially Michael.

I didn't scan I-K again... so I wonder who other lady has been up to this...

Edit: just got the awaited result! Guess who is guilty now! :clown:

Seriously! I scanned rickinator! So, please somebody who can stop making me think "her fellow people" isn't my people go ahead and convince me!

Visor
11-25-2013, 20:41
Zain I cleared some space

Zain
11-25-2013, 20:52
Zain I cleared some space

Sent :bow:

Darth Feather
11-25-2013, 21:02
This game is epic!

Visor, crossroads and back from death Chief Pappy... Now, I'm lacking a result pm? Or it is just my imagination?



I didn't scan I-K again... so I wonder who other lady has been up to this...

Edit: just got the awaited result! Guess who is guilty now! :clown:

Seriously! I scanned rickinator! So, please somebody who can stop making me think "her fellow people" isn't my people go ahead and convince me!

I am guessing... that is really too coincidental. So either you are a paranoid or an insane cop.
I am hoping insane, cause that is usefull, while paranoid is completely useless.

Is there anything in your role PM which can point out some kind of paranoia?

Visor
11-25-2013, 21:20
I need to read the thread, but what should I know?

Riedquat is scanning everyone guilty?

Makrell
11-25-2013, 21:33
Read the write ups, they explain a lot.

I would guess this means that riedquat has been having the wrong results, but i find it highly suspicious anyhow, even though it is an odd tactic.

Chief Pappy
11-25-2013, 22:14
"Yeah, the spy is among us. Or another one. Either way, we need help finding them."

Charlie stepped up, "My father was a soldier for the Mobilian army, he taught me a lot. If you let us join you, I promise we'll help you find your mole."

Michael stepped up, a little too close to Charlie, tone of voice dropping, "That's fine, but if I just as much as think you're lying, I'll beat your ass into the ground."

Charlie, despite the threat, smiled. "Yes sir!"

This leads me to believe we can vote, correct me if I'm wrong Zain!

I have a few observations.

1) Riedquat has been the talk of the town with all of his guilty investigation claims.
2) Rickinator9 claims to be an investigator too, whom of which has only reported "innocent" scans.
3) Ibn-Khaldun claims to be a doctor.

That is all the role reveals I have noticed.

Also players like dcmort93, crys, BSmith, and Lux make me nervous with their inactivity although Lux has picked it up as of late...

Zain
11-25-2013, 22:55
This leads me to believe we can vote, correct me if I'm wrong Zain!

Yes, absolutely :bow:

These townies need some help :laugh4:

Darth Feather
11-25-2013, 23:15
This leads me to believe we can vote, correct me if I'm wrong Zain!

That is all the role reveals I have noticed.

Also players like dcmort93, crys, BSmith, and Lux make me nervous with their inactivity although Lux has picked it up as of late...

It is not entirely OOC for BSmith to be lurking (which doesn't make it right). Dcmort is quite active at cfc, so he might be trying to hide by lurking.

EDIT

Particularly one pair of eyes stayed open all night, keeping a watchful eye on her fellow people, and especially Michael.
Some kind of roleblock perhaps? Anyone a clue about who michael is?

Chief Pappy
11-25-2013, 23:17
It is not entirely OOC for BSmith to be lurking (which doesn't make it right). Dcmort is quite active at cfc, so he might be trying to hide by lurking.

Insight, I like it :yes:

Then Vote:dcmort93 until a better candidate surfaces.

Ibn-Khaldun
11-25-2013, 23:31
This leads me to believe we can vote, correct me if I'm wrong Zain!

I have a few observations.

1) Riedquat has been the talk of the town with all of his guilty investigation claims.
2) Rickinator9 claims to be an investigator too, whom of which has only reported "innocent" scans.
3) Ibn-Khaldun claims to be a doctor.

That is all the role reveals I have noticed.

Also players like dcmort93, crys, BSmith, and Lux make me nervous with their inactivity although Lux has picked it up as of late...

Yes, I am a doctor and I protected rickinator last night.
I'm not sure what to think about Riedquat's investigation results, though.
Did rickinator mention somewhere who did he scanned during the nights?

rickinator9
11-26-2013, 00:16
I scanned Darth Feather, Riedquat and Crys in that order. All were innocent.

Ishmael
11-26-2013, 00:56
Well, this is interesting. I am Anne Bell, a roleblocker, and I blocked Lux last night (for the record, I had previously blocked Chief Pappy and Makrell). Can you shed light on your actions for us Lux?

vote: Lux

dcmort93
11-26-2013, 01:14
My inactivity here is mostly due to NSP starting to get quite interesting and I have quite a vested role there, as well as having multiple projects (2 last week and 2 this week) due right around the same time. As for this game, once NSP ends and after these last two projects are done I will be quite a bit more active then I currently am. Not to mention, and those of you that have played a decent number of games with me probably know this, I normally lurk around until I get called out for it, then I flinch and then I normally get lynched/night killed because of it. It almost happened in NSP.

Now as for this game, let me catch up on things for this phase and I will try to be as active here as I am on CFC.

Riedquat
11-26-2013, 01:40
I am guessing... that is really too coincidental. So either you are a paranoid or an insane cop.
I am hoping insane, cause that is usefull, while paranoid is completely useless.

Is there anything in your role PM which can point out some kind of paranoia?

No, my role is pretty simple and straight comapered with when I was Ryan, Female detective, Margaret McGill, nothing else.


I need to read the thread, but what should I know?

Riedquat is scanning everyone guilty?

Yeap, that is the thing! Ferret, I-K and now rickinator, all guilties!


Read the write ups, they explain a lot.

I would guess this means that riedquat has been having the wrong results, but i find it highly suspicious anyhow, even though it is an odd tactic.

At this stage you keep thinking I would reveal first day? Is not odd, it is a plainly stupid tactic if I'm mafia!



I'm not sure what to think about Riedquat's investigation results, though.

O.o .... they are wrong, if not you are guilty, or do you want to create again some sort of doubt about my role?


Well, this is interesting. I am Anne Bell, a roleblocker, and I blocked Lux last night (for the record, I had previously blocked Chief Pappy and Makrell). Can you shed light on your actions for us Lux?

vote: Lux

Hello sister! :P Do you think the write up shows you looking Michael, right? It makes sense...

Btw, rickinator what is your IG sex?

Makrell
11-26-2013, 07:12
Seeing as the new guys surely must have a baddie or serial killer among them i think, i doubt they are all first party. Therefore im gonna vote:Chief pappy

Darth Feather
11-26-2013, 11:07
Going by Ishmael's blocking result, I am going to Vote: Lux, as indicated by the Write-up.

Visor
11-26-2013, 12:00
Alright, I've just read the writeups. Going to read the thread to get a sense of where the game is.

EDIT: I've read the thread now.

Visor
11-26-2013, 12:33
Thoughts going in this post.

BSmith - lurking poster, lurking is a scum trait of bsmith, and he's more active elsewhere. Good lynch for today.
Chief Pappy 2 Chief Pappy Harder - nothing of note since he did a jesus (:P)
crossroad - again nothing
crys - lurking most likely vanilla or close to it, probably townie
Darth Feather - need to look over more - leaning town
dcmort93 - slight town lean because he is generally inactive here, and his reasons do make sense
edse - is edse duh - scum
Ibn-Khaldun - is IK so probably town
Ishmael - leaning scum, his posts remind me of his other scum games
Lux - unsure
Makrell - unsure, possibly town
rickinator9 - leaning scum
Riedquat - town duh
Visorslash - vanilla townie

These are just basic reads from what I've seen.

Leaning scum on BSmith/Ricky/edse/Ishamel

Lynching them probably kills all the murderers. Dunno about any in the new group.

Visor
11-26-2013, 12:51
The major focus to find Michael and his accomplice friend - chief pappy and crossroads, regardless of alignment are not worth looking at for a lynch vote.

Heavily disliked the lynch of Autolycus - reminds me of Rickys scum game.

Vote: BSmith

I'm ignoring scans, they're not useful in this game.

Anyone around to talk in thread?

Visor
11-26-2013, 12:55
Roleblocking doesn't have to be in the physical sense so I can see Lux being scum, actually, just remembered that Ishmael blocked her(?)

Switch Ishmael and Lux around then, if Lux is scum, scum Ishmael never busses this early for no reason or gain, especially when he is never killed later.

Unvote; Vote: Lux

Makrell's vote is terrible but I'm not sure if its scum makrell or not. Have to do some more reading.

Absolutely never lynch Riedquat. He's far too crazy to be scum.

edse should be lynched at some stage - good candidate for scum.

Never protect me, only riedquat - I'm vanilla townie.

Visor
11-26-2013, 12:58
Edse posts less as scum and less content, I'm feeling a scum vibe from him.

Lynch him tomorrow after Lux.

Townies:
Visor
Riedquat
Ishmael

Honorary townies:
Darth
Chief
Cross
crys
DC

Minor Scum Candidates:
Makrell
Maybe IK

Major Scum candidates:
Lux
BSmith
Ricky
Edse

Riedquat
11-26-2013, 13:33
Never protect me, only riedquat - I'm vanilla townie.

No, and no! :stare: There aren't vanilla townies in this game. Protecting me is useless and a waste of an action! Better to protect rickinator9!

Edse was Michael in the other game, actually edse created Michael as cover role, and after a lurker start he was fairly active, that and the fact he killed himself made him won the game! Now, edse being scum again in this one? Do you want to know the probabilities? :P Of course, with the unorthodoxy of our host it is possible edse got the same role a second time, but seems unlikely...

Visor
11-26-2013, 13:36
No, and no! :stare: There aren't vanilla townies in this game. Protecting me is useless and a waste of an action! Better to protect rickinator9!

Edse was Michael in the other game, actually edse created Michael as cover role, and after a lurker start he was fairly active, that and the fact he killed himself made him won the game! Now, edse being scum again in this one? Do you want to know the probabilities? :P Of course, with the unorthodoxy of our host it is possible edse got the same role a second time, but seems unlikely...

Why would you protect Ricky? You're an obvious townie.

Different game, different rand. He has the same chance as anyone, and he might not be Michael himself.

Riedquat
11-26-2013, 13:58
Why would you protect Ricky? You're an obvious townie.

Different game, different rand. He has the same chance as anyone, and he might not be Michael himself.

He is a self-claimed detective and by the absence of other detective claim he might be telling the truth? I mean, there must be at least one legit scanner amongst us, right?

And you said it, edse has the same chance as everyone else! ;)

BSmith
11-26-2013, 14:29
Apologies for the lack of posting. I am moving this week and have not had my normal computer time. (And with the Thanksgiving holiday i probably wont be back to normal until Monday). I am also a little overextended in games presently. Bad mix.

Zain- if you have another reserve player that wants to play you can replace me. If not I'll do my best to keep up.

Zain
11-26-2013, 14:46
Vote Tally:

Lux: 3 (Ishmael, DF, Visor)
Chief Pappy: 1 (Makrell)
dcmort93: 1 (Chief Pappy)

Non-voting: BSmith crossroad crys dcmort93 edse Ibn-Khaldun Lux rickinator9 Riedquat

I foresee some good activity later, Near the deadline in roughly 13 hours I will take a look at the tally again and decide whether we need an extension.

edit:

Everyone has posted within the last 48 hours except for crys, she has been inactive for over 72 hours which according to my rules means WoG.

I will be looking for a replacement for her first, if I am successful I will then look for one for you BSmith.

I hate inactivity people, it's very disappointing putting all of this work into a game and this happening...

All we need is one post a day to know you're still with us...

Looking for replacements now. I'll let you all know what comes up.

BSmith
11-26-2013, 15:25
Thanks. Again if I can make it to Monday I should be good. Just don't want to prevent someone who really wants to play the option in the meantime.

As for a vote, I think I will also vote: lux

Riedquat
11-26-2013, 15:26
Someone is getting pushy... :hide:

We need to know what Lux has to say before acting!

So far we know:

Ishmael looked over her people while blocking Lux
Rickinator9 looked over his(?) people while scanning crys
Riedquat looked over her people while scanning rickinator9

Everything comes from ourselves, so someone could be lying!

Now, to the people voting for the new people today.. they deserve a big fat HoS!!!

Zain
11-26-2013, 15:27
Thanks. Again if I can make it to Monday I should be good. Just don't want to prevent someone who really wants to play the option in the meantime.

We will most likely crawl through the weekend on account of Thanksgiving (Food :2thumbsup:) so there probably won't be a whole lot of activity here anyway.


Someone is getting pushy... :hide:

I'm sorry :bow:

edse
11-26-2013, 15:51
Edse posts less as scum and less content, I'm feeling a scum vibe from him.

Lynch him tomorrow after Lux.

Townies:
Visor
Riedquat
Ishmael

Honorary townies:
Darth
Chief
Cross
crys
DC

Minor Scum Candidates:
Makrell
Maybe IK

Major Scum candidates:
Lux
BSmith
Ricky
Edse

No, no, no. It's the other way around, when I'm scum I start to post all these weird numbers and theories. At least before, I've become more lurky lately.

edse
11-26-2013, 15:57
Now, to the people voting for the new people today.. they deserve a big fat HoS!!!

Now for the weird numbers I mentioned. One of the newcomers are most likely scum. That gives us 1/3 of lynching mafia among them while it is 2/11 for the original group. If you deem the probability for a scum among the newcomers to be above 55% then a random lynch of one of them is more likely to be successful than of the other part of the group.

Ferret
11-26-2013, 16:39
when I'm scum I start to post all these weird numbers


Now for the weird numbers I mentioned.

Really?

crossroad
11-26-2013, 16:58
Greetings people!


Really?

Same here...really? If someone else would have posted that observation then I might agree. To post that about yourself....? Hmmmmm :inquisitive:

Riedquat
11-26-2013, 17:09
Now for the weird numbers I mentioned. One of the newcomers are most likely scum. That gives us 1/3 of lynching mafia among them while it is 2/11 for the original group. If you deem the probability for a scum among the newcomers to be above 55% then a random lynch of one of them is more likely to be successful than of the other part of the group.

I would await till we have two kills a night at least, we know who they are, they won't massacre us at night to then disappear... this is very scummy coming from you...
I think at this point, our top priority keep being Michael and the other guy, tomorrow will be another day! If one of the three is scum, perhaps is a menace to Michael too, after all if we follow the write-up he wasn't very happy with them joining! ;)

Vote: abstain

Zain
11-26-2013, 17:18
Due to inactivity, crys has been replaced by Chaotix. He has taken up her role and will replace her on the active players list.

edit:
Ferret - it's good to see you again, sorry for the early demise... We may need to replace BSmith, would you be interested in the job?

Riedquat
11-26-2013, 17:27
Really?

Couldn't you replace Crys? I promise to not try to lynch you again! :sweatdrop: Edit: bleh... too late :(


Welcome crossroad! Feel at home, but do not touch that tree! That's mine! :clown:

rickinator9
11-26-2013, 17:30
Sorry for not voting. I only had 2 hours of sleep sunday night and pretty much slept the whole day. I want to Vote: Lux

Why am I on the major scum list? Am I out of pattern?

Zain
11-26-2013, 17:37
Vote: abstain

From this day forward votes to abstain cannot be the winning vote. You still may choose to abstain, but if that decision is majority, there will still be a lynch. And that will still be the player with the most votes.

Thank you.

edit:

In other words "Let's get this show on the road!"

Lux
11-26-2013, 17:54
Well, this is interesting. I am Anne Bell, a roleblocker, and I blocked Lux last night (for the record, I had previously blocked Chief Pappy and Makrell). Can you shed light on your actions for us Lux?

vote: Lux

MY pm indicated by Zain is that I am a pregnant townie with blocking abilities. Pregnant Super Powers! Also his note is that I'm supposed to survive to insure the repopulation of the world. H0ws that for overwhelming expectations?...I blocked Ishmael last night, early on. Now he comes out claiming to be the female in the write-ups, points the finger at me, the person who revealed to be female early in the thread, AND steals my ability. Ho hum. In my previous posts I've mentioned that I believe the scum keeps in the mid range of posting, last round I-K and Ishmael where right in the sweet spot. Unfortunately, I chose I-K, but now I'm for certain its Ishmael. If he indeed blocked a blocker last night, wouldn't there have been a kill? I propose that my pregnant senses were correct, I blocked the mafia, Ishmael, therefore resulting in a no-kill. My watchful eyes kept you alive last night. :Zzzz:

vote: Ishmael


Maybe there is a 50% chance the scan is accurate. The Host flips a coin and, say "heads" he tells the scanner the truth or "tails" he tells the scanner the individual being scanned is guilty regardless of the truth, guilty or not guilty. Paranoid much? Maybe something like that is occurring, but I think voting for the cop is wasted, and probably listening to him too...

I'm in favor of leaving because we don't know what we are getting into if we mesh with another group, there could be more scum amongst them. Dangerous people seem to always live longer in end of the world situations. We don't know what we are getting into when we join them. My PM says I'm a four months pregnant, travel isn't ideal but I've got to protect the baby... and find some peaches, craving peaches....
Vote: Darth Feather Vote: Leave

Anyone else get the Walking Dead reference? Love it, well written, Zain

This is Post #202

Darth Feather
11-26-2013, 18:23
I don't think you can edit vote posts :book2:

Also, how would Ishmael know you blocked him?

edse
11-26-2013, 18:28
I will Vote: rickinator9.

I don't think Michael or his companion would claim to be female as there probably are ways to find out what gender people are. Therefore I think Lux is innocent.

Darth Feather
11-26-2013, 18:32
I will Vote: rickinator9.

I don't think Michael or his companion would claim to be female as there probably are ways to find out what gender people are. Therefore I think Lux is innocent.

Any particular reason for your vote?

Chief Pappy
11-26-2013, 18:37
I will Vote: rickinator9.

I don't think Michael or his companion would claim to be female as there probably are ways to find out what gender people are. Therefore I think Lux is innocent.


Any particular reason for your vote?

Ditto... :juggle:

Lux
11-26-2013, 18:37
My deepest apologies, I meant to simply quote, my inexperience strikes. :(
Perhaps The mafia is informed when and who scans or blocks them?

Darth Feather
11-26-2013, 18:47
For now Unvote; vote: edse. you are acting suspicious.

Riedquat
11-26-2013, 18:48
MY pm indicated by Zain is that I am a pregnant townie with blocking abilities. Pregnant Super Powers! Also his note is that I'm supposed to survive to insure the repopulation of the world. H0ws that for overwhelming expectations?...I blocked Ishmael last night, early on. Now he comes out claiming to be the female in the write-ups, points the finger at me, the person who revealed to be female early in the thread, AND steals my ability. Ho hum. In my previous posts I've mentioned that I believe the scum keeps in the mid range of posting, last round I-K and Ishmael where right in the sweet spot. Unfortunately, I chose I-K, but now I'm for certain its Ishmael. If he indeed blocked a blocker last night, wouldn't there have been a kill? I propose that my pregnant senses were correct, I blocked the mafia, Ishmael, therefore resulting in a no-kill. My watchful eyes kept you alive last night. :Zzzz:

vote: Ishmael



This is Post #202

A convenient, counter claim... care to tell us who other people has been blocked by you on previous days, and another thing, the host inform you if your action was successful? Same question is valid to Ishmael!


I don't think you can edit vote posts :book2:

Also, how would Ishmael know you blocked him?

Is not the first time she does and Zain has counted her votes always, so...


I will Vote: rickinator9.

I don't think Michael or his companion would claim to be female as there probably are ways to find out what gender people are. Therefore I think Lux is innocent.

I really don't know what is up with you, why do you want to be lynched? :inquisitive:


My deepest apologies, I meant to simply quote, my inexperience strikes. :(
Perhaps The mafia is informed when and who scans or blocks them?

umm... in previous game the mafia knew about the reviver but not sure we can take that into account this time... is like they know to much.

Nobody thinks there is to many ladies in this game...

Darth Feather
11-26-2013, 18:53
A convenient, counter claim... care to tell us who other people has been blocked by you on previous days, and another thing, the host inform you if your action was successful? Same question is valid to Ishmael!


I don't seem to recall getting succesfull messages in Pratia II

Riedquat
11-26-2013, 19:04
I don't seem to recall getting succesfull messages in Pratia II

Not as doctors, I agree, but we hadn't a blocker... Only way to know is both blockers telling their versions... I for some reason, believe more Ishmael but I can't lynch a pregnant woman, it is a horrible thing to do... :sick:

Chief Pappy
11-26-2013, 19:07
Not as doctors, I agree, but we hadn't a blocker... Only way to know is both blockers telling their versions... I for some reason, believe more Ishmael but I can't lynch a pregnant woman, it is a horrible thing to do... :sick:

She claims to be pregnant, but I haven't seen anything in the write-ups in reference to this...

Therefore we can neither confirm nor deny this claim.

Darth Feather
11-26-2013, 19:50
Stil... one of them is lying. If I had to bet, I would bet on Lux (I mean, being pregnant doesn't make you definitely innocent.)

Also my bet would be mostly based on who claimed first.

Zain
11-26-2013, 20:24
Vote Tally:

Lux: 4 (Ishmael, Visor, Smith, rick)
Chief Pappy: 1 (Makrell)
dcmort93: 1 (Chief Pappy)
Ishmael: 1(Lux)
rickinator9: 1 (edse)
edse: 1 (DF)
Abstain: 1(Ried)

Non-voting: Chaotix crossroad dcmort93 Ibn-Khaldun

Time is on last tally and OP. :bow:

Riedquat
11-26-2013, 21:42
She claims to be pregnant, but I haven't seen anything in the write-ups in reference to this...

Therefore we can neither confirm nor deny this claim.

We can but we should? Honestly her lack of reply since her reveal doesn't help her case...


Stil... one of them is lying. If I had to bet, I would bet on Lux (I mean, being pregnant doesn't make you definitely innocent.)

Also my bet would be mostly based on who claimed first.

I thought I replied to this very post of you... :(

I was the first to identify myself with my scan on rickinator and that part of the write up, should we lynch him based on that? Hey! I also got a guilty result on him! I'm a female, I'm not with child but I've a cat! :clown:

As I said above, her lack of further participation puts me nervous, we need answers!

dcmort93
11-26-2013, 21:59
Now that I've caught up, I'd like to put a bit more pressure on Vote Edse​

rickinator9
11-26-2013, 22:07
Edse is being pretty scummy. Why would you want to lynch an (unverified) investigator? Besides if Lux is really essential in the repopulation of the world, we better keep her alive. Unvote; Vote: Edse

Lux
11-26-2013, 23:25
Stil... one of them is lying. If I had to bet, I would bet on Lux (I mean, being pregnant doesn't make you definitely innocent.)

Also my bet would be mostly based on who claimed first.

Well, I actually did reveal, post #202 shows that, I was a woman first. Kassy Garnett, to be more specific.

The people I've blocked have been (in order) BSmith, Makrell, and now Ishmael. The first two for really no reason but Ishmael on a hunch. And by the way he reacted, I touched a nerve...

If you think about it, it makes sense that the pregnant lady has the power to block, and by that "Protecting" her child. That was my pm objective after all, to live and cultivate the human race. Just call me "The Queen Mother" :lips2:

But I did think of something. I blocked Ishmael, and there was a no-kill. But there are two mafia, so either...
1) the mafia was being nice to us. THAT'S wishful thinking!
2) If one is blocked, the other can't attack. This is a very good thing, that means cut off one and the other is useless and can't cause mischief!
3) There is more than one blocker. This is also a good thing, but the chances of two different people blocking just the right people is, sadly, very slim.

This was an interesting thought I had at work, if #2 is correct our job becomes easier, but why am I thinking Zain won't allow anything to be easy....:rtwno:

Ibn-Khaldun
11-26-2013, 23:32
I actually don't think edse is mafia.

Vote: dcmort93

Can't explain this. There is something that makes me want to vote him.

Riedquat
11-27-2013, 00:15
Well, I actually did reveal, post #202 shows that, I was a woman first. Kassy Garnett, to be more specific.

The people I've blocked have been (in order) BSmith, Makrell, and now Ishmael. The first two for really no reason but Ishmael on a hunch. And by the way he reacted, I touched a nerve...

Err.. how could he even know you blocked him? It is the other way around, you reacted by his accusation...


If you think about it, it makes sense that the pregnant lady has the power to block, and by that "Protecting" her child. That was my pm objective after all, to live and cultivate the human race. Just call me "The Queen Mother" :lips2:

The only queen I ever liked was the band... It doesn't make much sense to me a pregnant woman blocking someone, blocking the pass maybe but not at fourth month... :/


But I did think of something. I blocked Ishmael, and there was a no-kill. But there are two mafia, so either...
1) the mafia was being nice to us. THAT'S wishful thinking!
2) If one is blocked, the other can't attack. This is a very good thing, that means cut off one and the other is useless and can't cause mischief!
3) There is more than one blocker. This is also a good thing, but the chances of two different people blocking just the right people is, sadly, very slim.

This was an interesting thought I had at work, if #2 is correct our job becomes easier, but why am I thinking Zain won't allow anything to be easy....:rtwno:

Your point #2 comes from nowhere. If we follow the write-ups, yesterday was the minion turn to kill, so if either you or Ishmael were blocking Michael the minion didn't kill because he was blocked, inactive or by own decision. But this is interesting, you both believe the write-up is alluding your action and I wonder if it wasn't any other woman carrying a whole different action in another target... included myself of course!

Riedquat
11-27-2013, 00:18
I actually don't think edse is mafia.

Vote: dcmort93

Can't explain this. There is something that makes me want to vote him.

Who got your protection last night, and are you man, woman or...???

Riedquat
11-27-2013, 00:51
Edse is being pretty scummy. Why would you want to lynch an (unverified) investigator? Besides if Lux is really essential in the repopulation of the world, we better keep her alive. Unvote; Vote: Edse

I don't like this, it smell bad... Edse is being deliberately scummy, this is not an accident or mistake, he is calling the attention to himself for something, he was so scummy that made dead Ferret to talk, after his master-play of the last game... again this is no accident. He voted you and you for him... for you is better to disregard all the case of who blocked who appearing in the write-up and going for the one voting you, because obviously he is very scummy... and he is! So again, I wonder if he is detracting attention from Lux? Ishmael? Or you?

Ishmael
11-27-2013, 00:53
But this is interesting, you both believe the write-up is alluding your action and I wonder if it wasn't any other woman carrying a whole different action in another target... included myself of course!

I'm Occam's Razoring it here. It seems more plausible to me that my roleblocking Lux is what prevented the kill, rather than your scanning having a roleblocking function without you realising it. Her counter-claiming adds to my belief here as well.

In response to your earlier query, I'll reiterate that I previously blocked Chief Pappy and Makrell, in that order. I also have not received 'success' PMs from our host.

Frankly I don't know where the voting on edse and dcmort came from. I can understand voting on a hunch if you've got nothing else to go off, but when you've got a person roleblocked on a night without a kill, I'd give that precedence.

Zain
11-27-2013, 01:29
Time Remaining:

Chaotix
11-27-2013, 01:38
Argh, just missed the phase.

Apologies Zain, I will be here for the next.

Zain
11-27-2013, 01:40
Argh, just missed the phase.

Apologies Zain, I will be here for the next.
Chaotix - No, as hopefully the post above says, there's 2 hours and 19 minutes left.

Chief Pappy
11-27-2013, 02:10
I can see two major issues.

1) Ishmael claims female roleblocker who blocked Lux, while Lux claims the same on Ishmael. Either way one is lying, or somebody else did the deed and these two are caught in a rat race.

2) Edse knowingly scummed himself, which makes me think he's not interested in the game anymore. Real scum wouldn't be that careless.

I see that Lux and Ishmael will have to duke it out, I'm not willing to choose who I believe is guilty and innocent just yet.

However, if edse no longer wants to play, I will oblige him. I'm interested in seeing how tonight goes with both Lux and Ishmael on the board.

Unvote; Vote: Edse

rickinator9
11-27-2013, 02:13
I'm Occam's Razoring it here. It seems more plausible to me that my roleblocking Lux is what prevented the kill, rather than your scanning having a roleblocking function without you realising it. Her counter-claiming adds to my belief here as well.

In response to your earlier query, I'll reiterate that I previously blocked Chief Pappy and Makrell, in that order. I also have not received 'success' PMs from our host.

Frankly I don't know where the voting on edse and dcmort came from. I can understand voting on a hunch if you've got nothing else to go off, but when you've got a person roleblocked on a night without a kill, I'd give that precedence.

I wonder where the "Every life is valuable" attitude went.

Besides, we should also think about if all these claims of having special roles are real. I think one of us is lying about their special powers but I just can't deduce it from the writeups.
Zain: It does say that Day Phase 5 is complete.

Zain
11-27-2013, 02:23
Zain: It does say that Day Phase 5 is complete.

That's odd, shouldn't the code where I put in my timezone make up for this difference?

IGNORE TIMER, 1 hour and 38 minutes UNTIL END OF PHASE

Riedquat
11-27-2013, 02:42
I'm Occam's Razoring it here. It seems more plausible to me that my roleblocking Lux is what prevented the kill, rather than your scanning having a roleblocking function without you realising it. Her counter-claiming adds to my belief here as well.

You are ignoring this:


Michael came back to his post, cleaned his knife and hid it among the rocks. "You're doing the next one." He said, in a cold sadistic joking kind of way.

:stare: Your blocking or Lux blocking had nothing to do with the lack of killing! That is what I'm saying! The write up states Michael was sleeping, the action carried on him has nothing to do with the lack of killing, or all to do depending the light with what we see it. Do you look it this way, what if you indeed blocked the minion? And for that reason there wasn't a kill, but somebody else was looking after Michael? Do you at least see my point?

If that is possible, there is also possible you and lux blocked each other, we know there are a whole lot of female characters here, if that happened perhaps another person was looking after Michael, perhaps a doctor? I don't know... but there is a big possibility somebody else carried the action!

I don't want to risk lynching a pregnant woman, blocker, just to discover she was what she claimed to be, you can guess what will happen next, right?

Ibn-Khaldun
11-27-2013, 02:48
Who got your protection last night, and are you man, woman or...???

I protected rickinator last night and I am (in this game that is) a woman.

Riedquat
11-27-2013, 02:53
Particularly one pair of eyes stayed open all night, keeping a watchful eye on her fellow people, and especially Michael.

For both self claimed blockers, how do you block? Watching?

Riedquat
11-27-2013, 02:56
I protected rickinator last night and I am (in this game that is) a woman.

:bow: Thanks! I rest my case!

Vote: rickinator9

Riedquat
11-27-2013, 02:58
Time Remaining:

Weird, I see the timer correctly in this post...

Ishmael
11-27-2013, 03:08
Night went on, people stayed busy gathering their things and paranoid for their lives. People slept off and on, but never at one point was Michael and his partner the only people awake.



:stare: Your blocking or Lux blocking had nothing to do with the lack of killing! That is what I'm saying! The write up states Michael was sleeping, the action carried on him has nothing to do with the lack of killing, or all to do depending the light with what we see it. Do you look it this way, what if you indeed blocked the minion? And for that reason there wasn't a kill, but somebody else was looking after Michael? Do you at least see my point?


Given the section of the write-up I quoted, I'm not sure quite where you're coming from. It strongly implies that Michael and his partner wish for themselves to both be the only ones awake when they make a kill (whether that has any in-game interpretation, I can't say). As to whether I blocked Michael or the minion, does it really matter? Scum is scum. If anybody who hasn't claimed yet had a blocking power they presumably would have come forward now. From the write-up I don't believe it was a doctor protection. That leaves my roleblocking as the most likely reason for the lack of a kill.


For both self claimed blockers, how do you block? Watching?

I don't believe I'm allowed to quote my role PM, but that's essentially correct. To paraphrase, I can keep an eye on people to prevent them from taking actions (which is explicitly clarified to be roleblocking in the PM).

Lux
11-27-2013, 03:08
For both self claimed blockers, how do you block? Watching?

I send a pm to Zain informing him of who I've chosen to block. But in the write-ups Zain gets creative, I would imagine.

Riedquat
11-27-2013, 03:35
I don't believe I'm allowed to quote my role PM, but that's essentially correct. To paraphrase, I can keep an eye on people to prevent them from taking actions (which is explicitly clarified to be roleblocking in the PM).

Ok, Unvote; vote: Lux.

Riedquat
11-27-2013, 03:36
Please, if this goes wrong somebody kill me tonight!

Lux
11-27-2013, 03:41
Unvote: Vote: Edse

I'm changing to save my life, I'll convince you all of my innocence in life or death.

crossroad
11-27-2013, 03:44
The write up states Michael was sleeping

Actually the write up seems to indicate Michael wanted to be the only one awake. You either missed this or you are leaning toward the scum side :inquisitive:


As to whether I blocked Michael or the minion, does it really matter? Scum is scum.

Refusing to reveal who you blocked... interesting! I agree, scum is scum. :rtwno:


edse no longer wants to play, I will oblige him. I'm interested in seeing how tonight goes with both Lux and Ishmael on the board.

Unvote; Vote: Edse

Ditto. Vote: Edse

Riedquat
11-27-2013, 03:55
Actually the write up seems to indicate Michael wanted to be the only one awake. You either missed this or you are leaning toward the scum side :inquisitive:



Refusing to reveal who you blocked... interesting! I agree, scum is scum. :rtwno:



Ditto. Vote: Edse

:inquisitive::inquisitive: He revealed who blocked what are you talking about?? :inquisitive:

Zain
11-27-2013, 04:00
Day Phase 5 Complete

I will post the write-up in a few hours :bow:

crossroad
11-27-2013, 04:04
:inquisitive::inquisitive: He revealed who blocked what are you talking about?? :inquisitive:

I see where he revealed. Missed that - my mistake :embarassed:


Ok, Unvote; vote: Lux.

Are you sure? Seems kinda twisted for Zain to make Lux a pregnant killer! :mean:

Zain
11-27-2013, 06:03
The Fifth Day

A day of travel left the group of fourteen exhausted. Setting up their camp for the night off the path and into the woods, one woman had been singled out.

"I've noticed you leaving some nights, Bev." Michael accused the woman as she sat down next to the fire. The others, most of them anyway, within ear shot.

All small talk ceased as they waited for Bev Fitzpatrick's (edse) response. "Yeah, after the murders I didn't feel safe at the cave anymore. So I decided to sneak away and sleep where no one knew where I was."

Her honesty and forthcoming shocked Michael, "I also noticed a trend between the nights you left and the night's someone was murdered."

Her eyes grew wide, seeing the coup arising against her. "Absolutely not! There is no correlation!"

Suspicion immediately rose and people started accusing her, until the choice to remove her was decided on. "Hold her." Michael said.

Bret from the second group and another man held her as Michael took out his knife and slit her throat. She died instantly. They left her body down the path a ways for the morning, "Let's hope tonight we can sleep peacefully, perhaps now survival from the unknown is our greater threat."

They all made their spaces and sleep fell upon them, unknowing cattle, awaiting their slaughter.


Night Phase 5 has begun! Those of you with night abilities, please PM me ASAP.

Time Remaining:

Visor
11-27-2013, 06:41
What. Did that really happen. Is the the real Pratia III?

You guys lynched edse over Ishamel or Lux?

What?

Just back up a second there. You believed a second roleblocker claim who claimed to block Ishmael.

No seriously?

Guys?

You lynched edse?

Wow.

11326

Visor
11-27-2013, 06:56
These are Rickis scans:


I scanned Darth Feather, Riedquat and Crys in that order. All were innocent.

DF - fine
Riedquat - he was an obvious townie, why would you scan him?
Crys - hardcore lurker, why would you scan her?

The scans don't make sense as a detective move.

Ricki and probably Lux are scum. BSmith is another good choice for scum as well.

Makrell goes in the scum pile too.

edse
11-27-2013, 07:54
~:mecry: ~:mecry: I didn't want to die.

Makrell
11-27-2013, 09:25
~:mecry: ~:mecry: I didn't want to die.

Im gonna guess some kind of power in death

Visor
11-27-2013, 10:29
Ishmael claimed he blocked Lux, Lux claimed she blocked Ishmael.

I seriously don't see this being anything other then one of the two being scum, which is good, because it narrows down the list of people. Obviously Lux is much more likely to be scum in my mind then Ishmael.

Ishmael's blocks are solid. Both Pappy and Makrell are pretty solid choices. Lux's blocks are pretty solid too.

Makrell
11-27-2013, 10:47
why is pappy a solid choice, i doubt the mafia would ever get a drunken member

Darth Feather
11-27-2013, 13:06
why is pappy a solid choice, i doubt the mafia would ever get a drunken member

He clearly means Pappy II. That said, I am not getting a scummy vibe from Pappy.
To Visorslash: where does your accusation come from?
Also, scanning riedquat was a sound choice. He had that guilty scan at once. He might have been a scumbag, playing bluffpoker.

Visor
11-27-2013, 13:48
He clearly means Pappy II. That said, I am not getting a scummy vibe from Pappy.
To Visorslash: where does your accusation come from?
Also, scanning riedquat was a sound choice. He had that guilty scan at once. He might have been a scumbag, playing bluffpoker.

On D2? what?

Darth can pop into the minor scum list too.

Makrell
11-27-2013, 14:20
He clearly means Pappy II. That said, I am not getting a scummy vibe from Pappy.


My fault, am sorry.

but im not getting the full on vibe form pappy either, somewhat, but not more than from the two other newcomers. That said one of them is mafia/thirdparty, /unless all of them are#crackpot theory/

Riedquat
11-27-2013, 14:34
These are Rickis scans:



DF - fine
Riedquat - he was an obvious townie, why would you scan him?
Crys - hardcore lurker, why would you scan her?

The scans don't make sense as a detective move.

Ricki and probably Lux are scum. BSmith is another good choice for scum as well.

Makrell goes in the scum pile too.

I differ, the only solid scan was me, but who I am to judge his choices?


~:mecry: ~:mecry: I didn't want to die.

It seemed like in reality wanted it, nobody can be so scummy in almost three consecutive posts? :stare:


Im gonna guess some kind of power in death

He has the power to feed worms now... I wonder why our universe is transforming in a x-men kind of thing


Ishmael claimed he blocked Lux, Lux claimed she blocked Ishmael.

I seriously don't see this being anything other then one of the two being scum, which is good, because it narrows down the list of people. Obviously Lux is much more likely to be scum in my mind then Ishmael.

Ishmael's blocks are solid. Both Pappy and Makrell are pretty solid choices. Lux's blocks are pretty solid too.

Ishmael, was pretty concise and clear in every aspect, gave away every bit of info he had, I believe him over the vaguely description from Lux.


why is pappy a solid choice, i doubt the mafia would ever get a drunken member

FoS: Makrell and his divine powers, do you care to invent a role with name and all for us? You voted Chief Pappy and now you come asking about him? :stare:


He clearly means Pappy II. That said, I am not getting a scummy vibe from Pappy.
To Visorslash: where does your accusation come from?
Also, scanning riedquat was a sound choice. He had that guilty scan at once. He might have been a scumbag, playing bluffpoker.

I agree with the external perception of myself!

Riedquat
11-27-2013, 14:39
Who want to be scanned guilty? Somebody want to bet I will get an innocent today? :clown:

Edit: Question to the new comers, who is who from you? Your names were given to us in the write up, so you are two men and a woman?

Makrell
11-27-2013, 15:08
FoS: Makrell and his divine powers, do you care to invent a role with name and all for us? You voted Chief Pappy and now you come asking about him? :stare:


I voted pappy as he was among the newcomers, one of them is scum, and i picked one of them. (as per my statement that i dont get any more scumwibe from pappy than from visorslash and crossorad)

Riedquat
11-27-2013, 15:36
I voted pappy as he was among the newcomers, one of them is scum, and i picked one of them. (as per my statement that i dont get any more scumwibe from pappy than from visorslash and crossorad)

You voted for a new comer who poses no threat to you, as you claimed that supposed invincibility that protects you at night... that alone gives the rest of the living the natural right to FoS you all the game long!
Without mention, you confused the new Pappy with the old drunk Pappy, could you care less for your vote yesterday? So are you a careless townie with an awesome ability or something else posing as a careless townie?

Visor
11-27-2013, 15:47
Problem is, those voting the newcomers assume there is a scum amongst us. There might be, but there very well might not be, and the original scum is in the original group anyway.

I'm Leigh (or whatever it is).

Riedquat
11-27-2013, 15:54
Problem is, those voting the newcomers assume there is a scum amongst us. There might be, but there very well might not be, and the original scum is in the original group anyway.

I'm Leigh (or whatever it is).

Leigha? Female? What have to do a woman to get the chance to repopulate the world? Where are the men? Michael and minion, please abstain! :clown:

Chief Pappy
11-27-2013, 16:11
Ishmael, was pretty concise and clear in every aspect, gave away every bit of info he had, I believe him over the vaguely description from Lux.

Going to have to respectfully disagree with this statement…

Ishmael posted approximately 300 words from his reveal until the write-up while Lux posted 450 words. Therefore, she posted 1.5X as much detail as Ishmael. Who’s being the vague one here? We need to stop drawing such quick conclusions. Just because Ishmael claimed first doesn’t necessarily mean he’s the innocent one. She could very well be innocent and reacted accordingly when someone claims to be your very own character. Here’s my proof.


Well, this is interesting. I am Anne Bell, a roleblocker, and I blocked Lux last night (for the record, I had previously blocked Chief Pappy and Makrell). Can you shed light on your actions for us Lux?

vote: Lux

I'm Occam's Razoring it here. It seems more plausible to me that my roleblocking Lux is what prevented the kill, rather than your scanning having a roleblocking function without you realising it. Her counter-claiming adds to my belief here as well.

In response to your earlier query, I'll reiterate that I previously blocked Chief Pappy and Makrell, in that order. I also have not received 'success' PMs from our host.

Frankly I don't know where the voting on edse and dcmort came from. I can understand voting on a hunch if you've got nothing else to go off, but when you've got a person roleblocked on a night without a kill, I'd give that precedence.

Given the section of the write-up I quoted, I'm not sure quite where you're coming from. It strongly implies that Michael and his partner wish for themselves to both be the only ones awake when they make a kill (whether that has any in-game interpretation, I can't say). As to whether I blocked Michael or the minion, does it really matter? Scum is scum. If anybody who hasn't claimed yet had a blocking power they presumably would have come forward now. From the write-up I don't believe it was a doctor protection. That leaves my roleblocking as the most likely reason for the lack of a kill.
I don't believe I'm allowed to quote my role PM, but that's essentially correct. To paraphrase, I can keep an eye on people to prevent them from taking actions (which is explicitly clarified to be roleblocking in the PM).


MY pm indicated by Zain is that I am a pregnant townie with blocking abilities. Pregnant Super Powers! Also his note is that I'm supposed to survive to insure the repopulation of the world. H0ws that for overwhelming expectations?...I blocked Ishmael last night, early on. Now he comes out claiming to be the female in the write-ups, points the finger at me, the person who revealed to be female early in the thread, AND steals my ability. Ho hum. In my previous posts I've mentioned that I believe the scum keeps in the mid range of posting, last round I-K and Ishmael where right in the sweet spot. Unfortunately, I chose I-K, but now I'm for certain its Ishmael. If he indeed blocked a blocker last night, wouldn't there have been a kill? I propose that my pregnant senses were correct, I blocked the mafia, Ishmael, therefore resulting in a no-kill. My watchful eyes kept you alive last night.

vote: Ishmael

My deepest apologies, I meant to simply quote, my inexperience strikes. :(
Perhaps The mafia is informed when and who scans or blocks them?

Well, I actually did reveal, post #202 shows that, I was a woman first. Kassy Garnett, to be more specific.

The people I've blocked have been (in order) BSmith, Makrell, and now Ishmael. The first two for really no reason but Ishmael on a hunch. And by the way he reacted, I touched a nerve...

If you think about it, it makes sense that the pregnant lady has the power to block, and by that "Protecting" her child. That was my pm objective after all, to live and cultivate the human race. Just call me "The Queen Mother"

But I did think of something. I blocked Ishmael, and there was a no-kill. But there are two mafia, so either...
1) the mafia was being nice to us. THAT'S wishful thinking!
2) If one is blocked, the other can't attack. This is a very good thing, that means cut off one and the other is useless and can't cause mischief!
3) There is more than one blocker. This is also a good thing, but the chances of two different people blocking just the right people is, sadly, very slim.

This was an interesting thought I had at work, if #2 is correct our job becomes easier, but why am I thinking Zain won't allow anything to be easy....

I send a pm to Zain informing him of who I've chosen to block. But in the write-ups Zain gets creative, I would imagine.

Unvote: Vote: Edse

I'm changing to save my life, I'll convince you all of my innocence in life or death.

My conclusion is that all we have to work with is the claim of two people of the same role. No amount of claims from either of them amount to much (Though Lux has clearly NOT been vague), neither blocked anybody of note, and the timing of their responses shouldn’t be taken into account due to RL issues like WORK and SCHOOL.

Here’s what I propose. Let’s have Rick scan one of them. Riedquat’s scans are useless (Unless it turns up innocent, wouldn’t that be interesting), and go from there. I doubt the mafia is stupid enough to pull that move.

Once we get Rick’s investigation (OR any other closet investigator’s out there that need to show their faces) we can make a move.

Chief Pappy
11-27-2013, 16:29
Question to the new comers, who is who from you? Your names were given to us in the write up, so you are two men and a woman?

Charlie, at your service. Male.

Visor
11-27-2013, 16:39
The amount of words said is not a good indicator. Rickis investigations could be easily fabricated as well.

Riedquat
11-27-2013, 16:57
Going to have to respectfully disagree with this statement…

Ishmael posted approximately 300 words from his reveal until the write-up while Lux posted 450 words. Therefore, she posted 1.5X as much detail as Ishmael. Who’s being the vague one here? We need to stop drawing such quick conclusions. Just because Ishmael claimed first doesn’t necessarily mean he’s the innocent one. She could very well be innocent and reacted accordingly when someone claims to be your very own character. Here’s my proof.

Look at Ishmael's reveal! I am Anne Bell, a roleblocker, and I blocked Lux last night (for the record, I had previously blocked Chief Pappy and Makrell). All said in a single sentence! Concise, coherent and easy to get to the point, compared to this all the reveals so far in the game seems vague, included my own!

Other thing, the reveals that come in chapters? It makes me wonder, what motivate this? And not talking about the block only, more related to the I'm a woman with child part...

I've been making and answering my own question all day long yesterday, I've stated several times my doubts about both arguments, so please don't tell me about quick conclusions.



My conclusion is that all we have to work with is the claim of two people of the same role. No amount of claims from either of them amount to much (Though Lux has clearly NOT been vague), neither blocked anybody of note, and the timing of their responses shouldn’t be taken into account due to RL issues like WORK and SCHOOL.

We agree to disagree about the vagueness of Lux reveal! About who revealed first, I strongly agree with you :bow:



Here’s what I propose. Let’s have Rick scan one of them. Riedquat’s scans are useless (Unless it turns up innocent, wouldn’t that be interesting), and go from there. I doubt the mafia is stupid enough to pull that move.

Once we get Rick’s investigation (OR any other closet investigator’s out there that need to show their faces) we can make a move.

Yes! And of course, no! I don't think is a good idea to state a plan publicly

Riedquat
11-27-2013, 17:00
Charlie, at your service. Male.

:applause: :knuddel: :love:

:laugh4:

crossroad
11-27-2013, 17:10
I am Bret, a townie (first time mafia gamer, so please don't hold that against me). I held Edse while Michael slit her throat - sorry Edse. I didn't know I had it in me :embarassed:~:mecry:

Riedquat
11-27-2013, 17:30
I am Bret, a townie (first time mafia gamer, so please don't hold that against me). I held Edse while Michael slit her throat - sorry Edse. I didn't know I had it in me :embarassed:~:mecry:

:2thumbsup: :idea: Care to join the party? :kiss2:

:laugh4:

Welcome! (to the game too!) Are you sure this is your first time, err.. your first time at mafia? I could swear I remember your name from another game... years ago?

Darth Feather
11-27-2013, 21:46
Here’s what I propose. Let’s have Rick scan one of them. Riedquat’s scans are useless (Unless it turns up innocent, wouldn’t that be interesting), and go from there. I doubt the mafia is stupid enough to pull that move.

Once we get Rick’s investigation (OR any other closet investigator’s out there that need to show their faces) we can make a move.

Well, we don't know that for sure. rickinator might be a naive detective if Riedquat is a paranoid one.

Zain
11-27-2013, 22:00
Still awaiting a few orders, 6 hours til deadline!

edit:

Tonight I will post the write-up, then we will have an extra extended Day Phase for the Thanksgiving holidays. I'm thinking 72 hours. That will put us ending that phase on Saturday night at 9:00pm GMT-6. Many people, at least that I know of, are traveling and I want everyone to have ample time for that and for the game.

crossroad
11-28-2013, 05:26
:2thumbsup: :idea: Care to join the party? :kiss2:

:laugh4:

Welcome! (to the game too!) Are you sure this is your first time, err.. your first time at mafia? I could swear I remember your name from another game... years ago?

Thanks, Riedquat! Been a member for a while. I joined back then just to get in on a debate :soapbox: I use to like to argue :no: Not so much these days. Usually has the opposite affect. :wall:

Zain
11-28-2013, 06:19
The Fifth Night

A cool breeze blew over the fire, the reflection brilliant on Michael's green eyes. He kept the watch for a couple hours that night, he had grown accustomed to insomnia. It's effects known to him, coping was easy now. He watched and listened as the eleven others, aside from himself and his new found minion, began to lay still and breathe heavily. He watched each figure for minutes unblinkingly, many facing him to receive the heat from the fire on their faces. Some, who faced away, he watched especially well.

An hour into their shift, Michael slowly stood up and crept toward a man, hood over his face. His name was Monte MacCoughlan (rickinator9) and he had been especially intuitive, looking into people, discovering their true intent. Michael could not allow his interference any longer.

He squatted down by Monte's head, looking over at his friend, seeing the go ahead nod. He shoved the knife quickly and deeply into Monte's neck, a shocked convulsion bolted up Monte's body as he died, eyes wide. The sound was faint with Michael's hand over Monte's mouth, but still Michael used caution. He looked all around, deduced that he had succeeded, and pulled the knife from the corpse.

He returned to the log he sat before, "How many is that now?" his friend asked him.

Michael put his knife away and then looked him in the eye and quietly whispered, "More have died by my hands than you have known your entire life."

"Do you feel anything?" he asked, eyes wide.

Michael looked at the fire, his facial expression completely blank. He looked over at his buddy, and smiled. "Pleasure."

Day Phase 6 starts now and will end in about 3 days. Timer is below. Have a safe and happy Thanksgiving everyone! I'll be around I'm sure for clarification. Vote and discuss whenever you have a spare minute!

Time Remaining:

Visor
11-28-2013, 06:51
Hmm. Rickinator might've been correct after all.

In which case Vote: Lux

Ishmael
11-28-2013, 07:06
I blocked Visorslash last night (randomly selected from amongst the newcomers), since I can't block the same person twice in a row. It would be amusing if a serial killer or something showed up tonight, then :beam:.

vote: Lux

Makrell
11-28-2013, 08:05
Vote:Lux

But it seems one of the newcomers is also mafia.
In other news i failed to use my ability again, baiting didnt help.

Makrell
11-28-2013, 11:32
In other news we need to discuss more, or Zain will punish us again.


Im beginning to doubt about lux though, is it possible both of them are nice and the mafia is just killing people they think are blockers?

I ight think 2 of the newcomers are bad news, seeing as Zain wanted to punish us, maybe one cult and one prater spy? Or just a prater spy?

Visor
11-28-2013, 13:49
In other news we need to discuss more, or Zain will punish us again.


Im beginning to doubt about lux though, is it possible both of them are nice and the mafia is just killing people they think are blockers?

I ight think 2 of the newcomers are bad news, seeing as Zain wanted to punish us, maybe one cult and one prater spy? Or just a prater spy?


I don't know why I still have to explain this to people. Your original scum are in the original grouping. You won't kill Michael by killing the newcomers.

Makrell
11-28-2013, 14:03
I don't know why I still have to explain this to people. Your original scum are in the original grouping. You won't kill Michael by killing the newcomers.


listened as the eleven others, aside from himself and his new found minion,

Sounds to me that there is a new scum in the new guys, but yes ofc michael is among the old bunch.

Riedquat
11-28-2013, 14:17
Im beginning to doubt about lux though, is it possible both of them are nice and the mafia is just killing people they think are blockers?

Please re-explain, I don't follow!

I'm sad I can't bark at the moon any more! Rickinator was honest, I'm sorry to have doubts about you but when you can't trust you own scans... Hope you keep participating! :bow:

Riedquat
11-28-2013, 16:37
Sounds to me that there is a new scum in the new guys, but yes ofc michael is among the old bunch.

I had the same impression with the new minion thing, thought I was being to literal in the interpretation, thing that caused a bit of a fuzz in the previous game :p

Btw, I'm the only one missing results, guilty results? Zain, when you have time! I need something to feed my paranoia! :bow:

Makrell
11-28-2013, 17:01
Please re-explain, I don't follow!


Killing ricki to frame lux might be a smart mafia strategy.

Riedquat
11-28-2013, 17:26
I blocked Visorslash last night (randomly selected from amongst the newcomers), since I can't block the same person twice in a row. It would be amusing if a serial killer or something showed up tonight, then :beam:.

vote: Lux

Just... just now I realized you posted this... and... :inquisitive: What? :inquisitive: Did you mention before this thing about the unavailability to block same target twice in a row? And your choice was one of the new comers? So perhaps for this very reason we only got one kill tonight?

I don't like this...


Vote:Lux

But it seems one of the newcomers is also mafia.
In other news i failed to use my ability again, baiting didnt help.

Again? The x-men one? It worked only once or twice?


Killing ricki to frame lux might be a smart mafia strategy.

Thanks for clarification! I do agree, it is very convenient... in every aspect!

crossroad
11-28-2013, 18:28
Vote:Lux

But it seems one of the newcomers is also mafia.
In other news i failed to use my ability again, baiting didnt help.

Why do you keep failing to use your ability? Perhaps the mafia is acting as you would like for them too! :inquisitive:




Sounds to me that there is a new scum in the new guys, but yes ofc michael is among the old bunch.

And again, trying to get us to focus on the new people... away from Michael!!! :inquisitive::inquisitive:


Killing ricki to frame lux might be a smart mafia strategy.

Now this, I might agree with.

And, I think the "new minion" in the write up could be a new comer. BUT! Is it possible the "new minion" is a newly discovered mafia member in the original group? I wouldn't put it past Zain to keep the mafia identities secrete from each other (mafia) and reveal it when the new comers showed up just to throw us off. I know this may sound scummy since I am in the new group, but apparently Zain has been pretty unorthodox!

crossroad
11-28-2013, 18:43
Hmm. Rickinator might've been correct after all.

In which case Vote: Lux

Yes he did vote Lux, but later changed his vote:


Edse is being pretty scummy. Why would you want to lynch an (unverified) investigator? Besides if Lux is really essential in the repopulation of the world, we better keep her alive. Unvote; Vote: Edse

:inquisitive::inquisitive:
If you went and looked that up you would have saw that.
:inquisitive::inquisitive:
But, yet, you chose to relay the earlier post.
:inquisitive::inquisitive:

Riedquat
11-28-2013, 19:33
I think you maybe are taking things out of context there... but lets hear what Visor says about that!

I finally got my useless result! :P Lux is guilty! Really!

I would like to hear from Lux what happened tonight, also from I-K who got his protection...

This will be a long and boring phase...

crossroad
11-28-2013, 20:23
I think you maybe are taking things out of context there... but lets hear what Visor says about that!

Maybe. Everyone is assuming there is scum in the new group. That's after all of the assumption there may be more scum than normal in the original group. So, more in the new group seems unlikely. Maybe I jumped the gun on that one. :bow:


I would like to hear from Lux what happened tonight, also from I-K who got his protection...

Ditto. :yes:

Darth Feather
11-28-2013, 21:41
I think you maybe are taking things out of context there... but lets hear what Visor says about that!

I finally got my useless result! :P Lux is guilty! Really!

I would like to hear from Lux what happened tonight, also from I-K who got his protection...

This will be a long and boring phase...

Let's get a party started then :pumpkin: :balloon: :cake: :balloon3: :balloon2:

On a more serious note: Lux is the most likely to be guilty.
There might be a ploy to frame Lux but still...
Vote: Lux

Ishmael
11-28-2013, 22:41
Just... just now I realized you posted this... and... :inquisitive: What? :inquisitive: Did you mention before this thing about the unavailability to block same target twice in a row? And your choice was one of the new comers? So perhaps for this very reason we only got one kill tonight?


I didn't want to make it public knowledge beforehand in case the mafia (read: Lux) did something silly like not send in a kill out of desperation, or to 'maintain' their claim. It was always a slim hope, but I saw no benefit in letting the town know, and a small possible benefit in not letting the mafia know.

As for my choice of block last night, I don't feel it would be fair to lynch the newcomers out of hand - I would be pretty annoyed if that happened to me, immediately after joining a game. But no doubt there's a nasty surprise of some sort in there. 'Scanning' them with night actions seems a reasonable compromise. As I said earlier, if there were to be a different killer in the write-up tonight it would be rather suggestive.

Ibn-Khaldun
11-28-2013, 23:50
I protected Lux last night. I should have protected ricki once again (I thought about it).

Also, if Ried's result says she is guilty then she most likely is not guilty.

Riedquat
11-29-2013, 01:22
I didn't want to make it public knowledge beforehand in case the mafia (read: Lux) did something silly like not send in a kill out of desperation, or to 'maintain' their claim. It was always a slim hope, but I saw no benefit in letting the town know, and a small possible benefit in not letting the mafia know.

I still don't like it but I understand.


I protected Lux last night. I should have protected ricki once again (I thought about it).

Also, if Ried's result says she is guilty then she most likely is not guilty.

Eww... you protected Lux? :dizzy2:

I don't think my scans can prove anything, if at least we had a single innocent, but I'm losing my hopes about getting one.


We need a new scanner, I wonder if out there is another one, and a doctor too... we had three in the other game!

Riedquat
11-29-2013, 13:58
:stare:

Nada? Nothing? Niente? FoS to all no americans, what is your excuse for no posting?

Makrell
11-29-2013, 14:22
And, I think the "new minion" in the write up could be a new comer. BUT! Is it possible the "new minion" is a newly discovered mafia member in the original group? I wouldn't put it past Zain to keep the mafia identities secrete from each other (mafia) and reveal it when the new comers showed up just to throw us off. I know this may sound scummy since I am in the new group, but apparently Zain has been pretty unorthodox!

He might, but one of the new guys is either scum or third party, Zain did say bad stuff would happen to us right before the three new guys showed up. So you might not even be with Michael, you might even be an independent faction or something.


Hmm. Rickinator might've been correct after all.

In which case Vote: Lux

This sounds odd, you are not the person to shift after such a crucial change.
More and more i cant see how Lux would benefit from killing Rickinator, she wouldve won more by another day of "who is wrong" and i think you wouldve thought the same.
Unvote:Vote:Visorslash

Just seems odd that you havent come around on a new day with anything more.

Darth Feather
11-29-2013, 17:02
:stare:

Nada? Nothing? Niente? FoS to all no americans, what is your excuse for no posting?

Oh, just some little stupid things like sleep and work.

Riedquat
11-29-2013, 17:25
Oh, just some little stupid things like sleep and work.

Bah! Not directed at you DF! And I'm doing both things at once at the moment! I'm so bored that hurts! :help:

Darth Feather
11-29-2013, 17:32
:stare:

Nada? Nothing? Niente? FoS to all no americans, what is your excuse for no posting?


Bah! Not directed at you DF! And I'm doing both things at once at the moment! I'm so bored that hurts! :help:

I get the feeling. Also I think most non-americans have voted. (Unless Lux is no american)

Zain
11-29-2013, 17:34
Happy Holidays to all! Yes it is obvious that people have been busy, but now that it's over I see no reason for some good activity to take place once again!

Vote Tally is very small, but I will post it anyway. Perhaps with their names mentioned our holiday party people will return :idea:

Lux: 3 (Visor, Ishmael, DF)
Visorslash: 1 (Makrell)

Non-Voting: BSmith Chief Pappy crossroad Chaotix dcmort93 Ibn-Khaldun Lux Riedquat

Also I would like to clarify, BECAUSE I AM KIND.


He watched and listened as the eleven others, aside from himself and his new found minion, began to lay still and breathe heavily.

Slip of the tongue, this players is the same player that's been hanging around Michael the entire time. "New found minion" has been around since the beginning.

I didn't want my oversight in how I worded something to guide you all so far off course. Not that this clears the new people entirely, there's no way to be sure about anybody anyway.

Once again, "New Found Minion" is NOT from the new group. I apologize for my poor wisdom in the wording. :bow:

rickinator9
11-29-2013, 19:57
Oh and uh... I scanned Lux last night and she came out innocent.

Chaotix
11-29-2013, 20:19
Welp. Vote: rickinator

You don't reveal your detective role to prove someone innocent, you do it to prove someone guilty.

Chief Pappy
11-29-2013, 20:23
Lux vs. Ishmael.

We have the same story coming from two players. Lux has been inactive, Ishmael hasn't. Ishmael has also been very clear and concise with his explanations.

RL issues or innocence vs. guilty?

Let's all just imagine the minority mindset right now that Lux is the innocent one as Rick just said. If we lynch her and that ends up being true, would we then lynch Ishmael?

Same is true the other way around. If we lynch Ishmael and he ends up being innocent, do we then lynch Lux?

It seems clear what the options here are. No one else is on the radar. The new three players may or may not hold scum, but Zain said the one mentioned in the write-up wasn't from the new group.

So it's literally Lux vs. Ishmael for now, since I'm almost completely convinced one of them is mafia.

But they both could be innocent given a coincidence possible.

Thoughts?

crossroad
11-29-2013, 20:31
Welp. Vote: rickinator

You don't reveal your detective role to prove someone innocent, you do it to prove someone guilty.


An hour into their shift, Michael slowly stood up and crept toward a man, hood over his face. His name was Monte MacCoughlan (rickinator9) and he had been especially intuitive, looking into people, discovering their true intent. Michael could not allow his interference any longer.

He squatted down by Monte's head, looking over at his friend, seeing the go ahead nod. He shoved the knife quickly and deeply into Monte's neck, a shocked convulsion bolted up Monte's body as he died, eyes wide. The sound was faint with Michael's hand over Monte's mouth, but still Michael used caution. He looked all around, deduced that he had succeeded, and pulled the knife from the corpse.

Rickinator died last night dude! :whip:

Vote: Chaotix

Makrell
11-29-2013, 20:44
Lux vs. Ishmael.

We have the same story coming from two players. Lux has been inactive, Ishmael hasn't. Ishmael has also been very clear and concise with his explanations.

RL issues or innocence vs. guilty?

Let's all just imagine the minority mindset right now that Lux is the innocent one as Rick just said. If we lynch her and that ends up being true, would we then lynch Ishmael?

Same is true the other way around. If we lynch Ishmael and he ends up being innocent, do we then lynch Lux?

It seems clear what the options here are. No one else is on the radar. The new three players may or may not hold scum, but Zain said the one mentioned in the write-up wasn't from the new group.

So it's literally Lux vs. Ishmael for now, since I'm almost completely convinced one of them is mafia.

But they both could be innocent given a coincidence possible.

Thoughts?

Wasnt it Lux vs Rickinator? have i missed something?

And is ricki even allowed to post?

Im sorry to the new guys, you are seemingly not prater spies. I still have doubts if you are another faction though.

dcmort93
11-29-2013, 21:09
I will go with Vote Lux for now but as new information presents itself, this may change

crossroad
11-29-2013, 21:16
Wasnt it Lux vs Rickinator? have i missed something?

And is ricki even allowed to post?

Im sorry to the new guys, you are seemingly not prater spies. I still have doubts if you are another faction though.

:no: :no: :no: Lux vs Ish.

No problem. Being new, I expected some FoS.


So it's literally Lux vs. Ishmael for now, since I'm almost completely convinced one of them is mafia.

But they both could be innocent given a coincidence possible.

Thoughts?

Even if we lynch one the other still could be mafia! Sad, but unless new info comes out we must kill both. Sorry Lux and Ishmael. In this case, Lux's inactivity makes me think she has nothing to hide. Ishmael's many words leads me to say he's guilty.

Unvote. Vote: Ishmael

Chief Pappy
11-29-2013, 22:43
Yes the conflict was Lux and Ishmael revealing the same role, Rick was an investigator who got nothing but innocent scans and the other investigator Riedquat has gotten nothing but guilty scans.

I'm leaning towards Ishmael from what Crossroad said, Lux doesn't seem to have much to hide.

Vote:Ishmael

I've also got strange vibes from Makrell with his strange ability, BSmith for his inactivity, and dcmort93 for the same reason.

I hold the opinion that us new people are just filler since Zain saw the mafia dominating. But as everyone seems to believe, Zain can't be predicted.

Fun game. Fun read so far.

Visor
11-29-2013, 22:47
Inactivity is pointing more towards mafia then not.

I really on't see the Ishmael wagon.

Lux is almost 100% scum.

She claimed she blocked Ishmael. A CC like that is almost 100% scum.

crossroad
11-29-2013, 23:17
Inactivity is pointing more towards mafia then not.

I really on't see the Ishmael wagon.

Lux is almost 100% scum.

She claimed she blocked Ishmael. A CC like that is almost 100% scum.

You say that as a person who has played the game and knows the tricks. Lux is like me - a newbie! I'm not saying she isn't smart enough to figure that out. By her posts I see that she is. But I'm not ready to say Lux is 100% scum. Ish on the other hand has played the game and posted quick after the writeup that he blocked Lux which seems like it would be a veteran mafia move.

Again, if no useful info comes out, Lux is next on my list.

Ibn-Khaldun
11-29-2013, 23:32
Vote: Ishmael

I still don't think Lux is mafia.

Ishmael
11-30-2013, 00:13
You say that as a person who has played the game and knows the tricks. Lux is like me - a newbie! I'm not saying she isn't smart enough to figure that out. By her posts I see that she is. But I'm not ready to say Lux is 100% scum. Ish on the other hand has played the game and posted quick after the writeup that he blocked Lux which seems like it would be a veteran mafia move.


I won't deny that I've got a few games under my belt, but experience does not mean omniscience. If I were scum, I would have had to guess firstly that there was a roleblocker (since as you will recall, there was the possibility that it was a side-effect of one of the 'scanners'). Then I would have had to pick actual roleblocker from the 10 or so people who hadn't claimed yet. Meanwhile, with Lux as scum she would only have to copy my claim, which any competent partner would tell her is the best move to make in a bad situation. I've been (ab)using Occam's Razor far too often of late, so I'll just ask those who think Lux is somehow innocent which they think is more plausible.



Even if we lynch one the other still could be mafia! Sad, but unless new info comes out we must kill both. Sorry Lux and Ishmael. In this case, Lux's inactivity makes me think she has nothing to hide. Ishmael's many words leads me to say he's guilty.
Unvote. Vote: Ishmael

I have nothing much to say here, but I just wanted to point out how amusing this is, given somebody thought I was more scummy for posting less than Lux earlier. Make up your mind, people! :beam:

Riedquat
11-30-2013, 00:38
Oh and uh... I scanned Lux last night and she came out innocent.

You are dead... You didn't get a result... I hope!


Welp. Vote: rickinator

You don't reveal your detective role to prove someone innocent, you do it to prove someone guilty.

:stare: You don't vote for a dead scanner killed by a pratian spy


Rickinator died last night dude! :whip:

Vote: Chaotix

Exactly, Vote: Chaotix till he show how to be a good townie!


Lux vs. Ishmael.

We have the same story coming from two players. Lux has been inactive, Ishmael hasn't. Ishmael has also been very clear and concise with his explanations.

RL issues or innocence vs. guilty?

Let's all just imagine the minority mindset right now that Lux is the innocent one as Rick just said. If we lynch her and that ends up being true, would we then lynch Ishmael?

Same is true the other way around. If we lynch Ishmael and he ends up being innocent, do we then lynch Lux?

It seems clear what the options here are. No one else is on the radar. The new three players may or may not hold scum, but Zain said the one mentioned in the write-up wasn't from the new group.

So it's literally Lux vs. Ishmael for now, since I'm almost completely convinced one of them is mafia.

But they both could be innocent given a coincidence possible.

Thoughts?

In general when you are mafia you get a terrible paranoia somebody will notice who you are at the minor thing you say, so you try to fly low and don't call the attention to yourself... Lux inactivity can be this. If Ishmael invented the story he could come with a better target than a new player who claimed to have the role of a pregnant lady.

Lux claim Ishmael stole her role, how is that even possible, Ishmael only claimed to be female, as the 70? 60? % of the players, also how is possible Ishmael knew before she posting the details?


And is ricki even allowed to post?

To post of course, to reveal I don't think so. Still I think he is just joking, you don't get results while dead....

crossroad
11-30-2013, 01:06
I won't deny that I've got a few games under my belt, but experience does not mean omniscience. If I were scum, I would have had to guess firstly that there was a roleblocker

Of course there is/would have been a role blocker! Everyone knows that! (not leaving out the unorthodox way of our host)


Then I would have had to pick actual roleblocker from the 10 or so people who hadn't claimed yet.

No, you just had to quickly pick a woman as the write up stated. Lux was an easy person to frame since she is a woman! You rolled the dice and it paid off at the time!


Lux claim Ishmael stole her role, how is that even possible, Ishmael only claimed to be female

So, the bottom line is, Lux reaction was genuine. Ishmael did steal her role when he was quick to say he blocked Lux (a woman as the write up said).

Again, if I am wrong - my appologies in advance for the lynching of an innocent townie (Ishmael) :bow: but Lux IS next on the list! :stare:

Chaotix
11-30-2013, 01:10
Unvote: rickinator

Revealing your investigation result after death is generally not allowed, which is why I assumed rickinator must have been alive and didn't bother to check the night results.

That said it also doesn't make sense to vote for a replacement townie who clearly has not paid enough attention.

Vote: Riedquat

You know this. Looking for an easy vote?

Visor
11-30-2013, 01:33
Did you really rand scum again chaotix? I feel sorry for you, you rand scum almost every second game.

Chaotix just outed himself with his post there. There is nothing wrong with Ishmaels claim. There is a lot wrong with luxs.

BSmith
11-30-2013, 02:00
Finally coming out of the turkey induced coma...

vote: lux. This is the best case. If she flips innocent then we lynch Ishmael.

Riedquat
11-30-2013, 02:00
Unvote: rickinator

Revealing your investigation result after death is generally not allowed, which is why I assumed rickinator must have been alive and didn't bother to check the night results.

That said it also doesn't make sense to vote for a replacement townie who clearly has not paid enough attention.

Vote: Riedquat

You know this. Looking for an easy vote?

Have you at least read the thread? The last page at least? :stare:

My final vote will be where it was the last day, when the rest of the players decide to ignore completely all said by Ishmael, Lux, rickinator and I-K and just choose to lynch edse! Now we need to deal again with same dilemma, for once and for all. No sane townie, nor mafia should be voting you seriously, after you/Crys have been scanned as innocent by the killed scanner you voted for! :shame:

Unvote; vote: abstain

Riedquat
11-30-2013, 02:03
Did you really rand scum again chaotix? I feel sorry for you, you rand scum almost every second game.

Chaotix just outed himself with his post there. There is nothing wrong with Ishmaels claim. There is a lot wrong with luxs.

Chaotix replaced Crys, Crys was scanned by rickynator. Obviously innocent.

Edit... Visor, do you mean Chaotix or crossroad?

Darth Feather
11-30-2013, 10:50
Chaotix replaced Crys, Crys was scanned by rickynator. Obviously innocent.

Edit... Visor, do you mean Chaotix or crossroad?

But are Ricki's scans that usefull? He might be a naive scanner as you seem to be a paranoid one. `

I mean, from the host I would expect such evilness.

rickinator9
11-30-2013, 13:44
I did get a result last night. I asked Zain for permission to post it in the thread and I received it.

Visor
11-30-2013, 13:51
This is a paranoia game. I trust scans as much as I trust Scumotix over there.

Makrell
11-30-2013, 16:05
Im not to certain, seems odd to give all the investegators useless abilities.
Everyone else has stuff with clear and definite uses. Seems odd to give two investegators the same twist(but opposite)

Darth Feather
11-30-2013, 16:33
Im not to certain, seems odd to give all the investegators useless abilities.
Everyone else has stuff with clear and definite uses. Seems odd to give two investegators the same twist(but opposite)

Maybe it is a balancing issue. Usually there are vanilla townies. If you give in a power-heavy game some players useless powers, the scum have more of a chance. (I am specifically thinking about Jarema's guess your role mafia. There were some totally useless roles you could have)

Makrell
11-30-2013, 16:42
Maybe it is a balancing issue. Usually there are vanilla townies. If you give in a power-heavy game some players useless powers, the scum have more of a chance. (I am specifically thinking about Jarema's guess your role mafia. There were some totally useless roles you could have)

Indeed, unless the mafia has some power roles themselves. Most if not all of the current reveals are roles which could be coupled with a mafia ability. Both Blocking and scanning is useful for them. And doctor and invincibilty is useless IF there is no other killing powers, but there might be one, that is only active under some conditions and so forth.

Riedquat
11-30-2013, 16:44
Im not to certain, seems odd to give all the investegators useless abilities.
Everyone else has stuff with clear and definite uses. Seems odd to give two investegators the same twist(but opposite)

I agree...to odd but...Everyone else has stuff with clear and definite uses? Like yours? :inquisitive:

Your stuff is far to be clear and obviously not definite use, it works from time to time for what you have said to us...

Makrell
11-30-2013, 17:01
I agree...to odd but...Everyone else has stuff with clear and definite uses? Like yours? :inquisitive:

Your stuff is far to be clear and obviously not definite use, it works from time to time for what you have said to us...
It works every night, and is useful, is it usefol for everyone, only 1 or 2 times. But it is still better for cop than a naive/paranoid cop. People like Ferret had a tiebreaking ability, also useful but minor. But a paranoid cop is just like a vanilla townie, except he is confused and confuses others(not intentionally, but thats what happens)

Darth Feather
11-30-2013, 17:25
It works every night, and is useful, is it usefol for everyone, only 1 or 2 times. But it is still better for cop than a naive/paranoid cop. People like Ferret had a tiebreaking ability, also useful but minor. But a paranoid cop is just like a vanilla townie, except he is confused and confuses others(not intentionally, but thats what happens)

What was your ability again. (I am sure you claimed but can't find the post)

Riedquat
11-30-2013, 17:26
I need to do this as I'm forgetting my own actions.

Riedquat scanned so far:
Ferret
I-K
rickinator9
Lux
All guilty

Ferret (Lynched) tie breaker, never got to use his ability

rickinator9 (killed) scanned:
DF
Riedquat
Crys (replaced by chaotix)
Lux
All innocent

I-K protected:
Makrell
Ishmael
rickinator
Lux

Ishmael blocked:
Chief Pappy (the old drunk one from the first group)
Makrell
Lux
Visorlsash

Lux blocked:
Bsmith
Makrell
Ishmael
Visorlash (post #466)

Makrell Pasive power:
-indestructible at night shown in the write up
-indestructible at night (here blocked by two different blockers)
-indestructible at night
-indestructible at night

Riedquat
11-30-2013, 17:28
What was your ability again. (I am sure you claimed but can't find the post)

Indestructible at night.................... but it doesn't work every time....

Makrell
11-30-2013, 17:36
Indestructible at night.................... but it doesn't work every time....

You are wrong, the post where is said i didnt do it tonight i meant it had no effect that night, seeing as i wasnt in the writeup.
I am indestructible every night(not when im blocked i guess.)

I am not told whether my ability works or not, but it seems pretty clear to me the one time my ability did have a function.

Zain seems to post about all the functioning abilities of the night in the writeups, like for example with the roleblocker.
(functioning here meaning having an effect(other than scanresult)

Makrell
11-30-2013, 17:38
Makrell used his power:
-indestructibly
-Indestructible but: here blocked by two different blockers)
-Indestructible
-Indestructible
-Indestructible
Makrell same as I-k, please complete it for us!

Any other known role we have?
Ferret claimed a tiebreaker, but he died, still useful fro statistics though, doubt two people would have a tiebreaker ability.

Riedquat
11-30-2013, 17:44
You are wrong, the post where is said i didnt do it tonight i meant it had no effect that night, seeing as i wasnt in the writeup.
I am indestructible every night(not when im blocked i guess.)

I am not told whether my ability works or not, but it seems pretty clear to me the one time my ability did have a function.

Zain seems to post about all the functioning abilities of the night in the writeups, like for example with the roleblocker.
(functioning here meaning having an effect(other than scanresult)

Ok, but it isn't the first time I asked how your ability worked, it wasn't very clear to us! Thanks for clarifying!

Ibn-Khaldun
11-30-2013, 17:56
My protections:

1) Makrell
2) Ishmael
3) rickinator
4) Lux

Riedquat
11-30-2013, 17:59
My protections:

1) Makrell
2) Ishmael
3) rickinator
4) Lux

Thanks I-K!

crossroad
11-30-2013, 17:59
Im not to certain, seems odd to give all the investegators useless abilities.
Everyone else has stuff with clear and definite uses. Seems odd to give two investegators the same twist(but opposite)

Makes sense to me, given Zain's talent in weaving a story. :hail: It appears he wants us to contribute, and has stated so in several posts. Giving investigators what appears to be useless powers has created this result, which tells me we are right on target! A lot of discussion about this. :yes:

There has also been a lot of pointing at how Mafia games "usually" work. It seems to be that our host does what we expect about half the time. I wish I could interject some sort of strategy with this info, so I'll have to just say its an observation at this time... ~:confused:

Riedquat
11-30-2013, 18:30
Just looking for everybody actions I noticed something, it can mean nothing but still...


Putting aside the apparently half-drunk conversation, I can't see anything to go off yet. Random ahoy.

vote: Lux


.....

For want of anything better, I'll vote Lux. For a combination of a sliding under the radar a bit, slipping her vote in to her post without any justification, and a hunch on my part. It's not ideal, but I don't think any of the other proposals are any better....

vote: Lux, vote: Leave


Well, this is interesting. I am Anne Bell, a roleblocker, and I blocked Lux last night (for the record, I had previously blocked Chief Pappy and Makrell). Can you shed light on your actions for us Lux?

vote: Lux

You went after Lux almost from the start with your votes but for what reason your actions didn't? You awaited two nights to block her... why?

Zain
11-30-2013, 18:54
Vote Tally:

Lux: 5 (Visor, Ishmael, DF, dc, Smith)
Ishmael: 3 (crossroad, Chief, I-K)
Visorslash: 1 (Makrell)
Riedquat: 1 (Chaotix)
Abstain: 1 (Ried)

Non-voting: Lux

Time Remaining:

Darth Feather
11-30-2013, 19:00
Vote Tally:

Lux: 5 (Visor, Ishmael, DF, dc, Lux, Smith)
Ishmael: 3 (crossroad, Chief, I-K)
Visorslash: 1 (Makrell)
Riedquat: 1 (Chaotix)
Abstain: 1 (Ried)

Non-voting: Lux

Time Remaining:

I think there might be a mistake in the tally
I think Lux didn't self-vote like your tally suggest

Zain
11-30-2013, 19:02
Good catch, corrected :bow:

Riedquat
11-30-2013, 20:58
Hope to be back before the deadline and still await Lux defence but for now...

Unvote; vote: Lux

Ishmael
11-30-2013, 22:29
Just looking for everybody actions I noticed something, it can mean nothing but still...

You went after Lux almost from the start with your votes but for what reason your actions didn't? You awaited two nights to block her... why?

My first couple of votes were random, as was my first block. My second block was on Makrell because his night action sounded a bit odd to me, and I wanted to make sure he wasn't pulling an edse or something. My third block was on Lux because, as you can see in the second vote you quoted, I had some minor suspicions of her and wished to follow them up.

Lux
11-30-2013, 22:51
So Sorry Gents, been bombarded with family and what not

Really it's my loss though, because I blocked Visorslash last night, and this is who Ishmael claims to have blocked too, but because he posted first I'm at a grave disadvantage. Somehow he knows who is being blocked (minion power?) and then beats me to the reveal so whatever I have to say sounds defensive and redundant. He has been out for me because I have become his biggest threat ever since I blocked him. I can't block the same person two nights in a row so I choose the new comer to be safe, though everything in my little soul told me to block Ishmael again. Such is the nature of the game that I really have no way to prove this to any of you until my baby and I die, but we'll be martyrs for the townies and by our death prove what I've been saying: Ishmael is Scum.

Vote: Ishmael

Riedquat
12-01-2013, 00:07
So Sorry Gents, been bombarded with family and what not

Really it's my loss though, because I blocked Visorslash last night, and this is who Ishmael claims to have blocked too, but because he posted first I'm at a grave disadvantage. Somehow he knows who is being blocked (minion power?) and then beats me to the reveal so whatever I have to say sounds defensive and redundant. He has been out for me because I have become his biggest threat ever since I blocked him. I can't block the same person two nights in a row so I choose the new comer to be safe, though everything in my little soul told me to block Ishmael again. Such is the nature of the game that I really have no way to prove this to any of you until my baby and I die, but we'll be martyrs for the townies and by our death prove what I've been saying: Ishmael is Scum.

Vote: Ishmael

I.. just need to.. LOL :laugh4::laugh4:

I know, this isn't funny for you Lux but you need to admit this is to weird! I have minor doubts about Ishmael but your story at this stage sounds very but very incredible...

Lux
12-01-2013, 01:27
I.. just need to.. LOL :laugh4::laugh4:

I know, this isn't funny for you Lux but you need to admit this is to weird! I have minor doubts about Ishmael but your story at this stage sounds very but very incredible...

Definitely, very strange, too strange to ignore. You'll see after we die, you won't be able to deny that Ishmael is scummy. Sadly, I realize that's the only way you'll be convinced.

crossroad
12-01-2013, 01:49
So Sorry Gents, been bombarded with family and what not

Really it's my loss though, because I blocked Visorslash last night, and this is who Ishmael claims to have blocked too, but because he posted first I'm at a grave disadvantage. Somehow he knows who is being blocked (minion power?) and then beats me to the reveal so whatever I have to say sounds defensive and redundant. He has been out for me because I have become his biggest threat ever since I blocked him. I can't block the same person two nights in a row so I choose the new comer to be safe, though everything in my little soul told me to block Ishmael again. Such is the nature of the game that I really have no way to prove this to any of you until my baby and I die, but we'll be martyrs for the townies and by our death prove what I've been saying: Ishmael is Scum.

Vote: Ishmael

Minion Power? Is there a power that mirrors someone else? Or, the power of knowing others powers? What if a power is knowing every move someone makes? Again I'm going back to the idea of Lux being framed.

Thoughts?

Zain
12-01-2013, 04:46
The Sixth Day

”It’s all your fault!” Kassy Garnett (Lux) screamed at Michael, pushing him. Tears of anger were in her eyes, gritting her teeth. She pointed at Monte’s body, “Weren’t you on watch?! How could you not see someone get murdered?!”

Michael tried to put his hands on her shoulders to calm her down, but she would not allow it. In his defense he replied, “I only had part of the watch, other people had shifts too!”

“You’re the leader, you’re responsible! All of these deaths are your fault!” She responded, anger growing quickly.

“That is enough, Kassy!” Michael replied impatiently, the others watching, a few attempting to keep the peace. Michael looked at her now calm, “You’re over-acting.”

Her anger traded for confusion, “What do you mean?”

“Standing idly by would’ve worked better for you.” He looks to the rest of the group. “She’s responding so strongly to this murder, covering her own guilt. She’s our murderer!”

Murmurs between the members started to draw paranoia. Was she really their murderer? Is she capable of such?

She acted out, this time infuriated, “I am NOT!” She looked around, catching peoples dodging glances. They would not hold eye contact; she had already been stained as guilty. She looked at Michael, “It’s you… you’re the murderer. I watched you that night no one died, you never slept either.” She turned to the group, “HE’s our murderer!”

The conflict had begun, was the murderer their trusted leader, or this woman who up to this point was virtually anonymous.
“Poor argument, to throw it right back at your accuser. Guilt is all over your face, Kassy. Grab her!”

The people hesitated, but they listened. Grabbing each arm they held her. Michael approached her, the knife he used to execute their last suspect in his hand. She started to scream, sobbing uncontrollably, saying something indeterminable. “What’s she saying?” Aaron Anduin asked. Michael grabbed her jaw, forcing her attention on him. “What is it? Can’t own up to it?”

Her eyes bright red, tears streaming, she wildly mumbled something and kept repeating it, until it finally became clear. “I’m pregnant.” She begged for her life, and the life of her proclaimed unborn child.

All breath in the group ceased from shock, all except Michael’s. Before anyone had a chance to say anything Michael killed Kassy Garnett with a knife to the throat.

Her body fell to the ground, limp. He cleaned his knife and before walking away he said, “Don’t be fooled, she’s a murderer. Murderers will say anything; do anything, to try to save themselves.” He stopped for a moment before continuing, “I’m confident our problems are over. We can bury the body, then let’s rest. Tomorrow we reach the coast.”

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Night Phase 6 has begun! Please send in your PMs to me as soon as possible!

Also I realized that by putting the end of the round at 9:00PM my time, half of the players are in Europe, and so the end of the round is in the middle of the night. I’ll end the rounds at 6:00PM my time so it’s nearer to a reasonable time for our more Eastern friends.

Time Remaining:
Extension likely if needed since the change in deadline shortened the phase.

Visor
12-01-2013, 04:55
Lynching Chaotix tomorrow.

Chief Pappy
12-01-2013, 05:05
Lynching Chaotix tomorrow.

Are you kidding?

Lux was a female character, both mafia are men.

Ishmael CLAIMED to be the women in the write-up who blocked Michael, but according to the write-up it was Lux.

Vote Ishmael!!

crossroad
12-01-2013, 05:07
Lynching Chaotix tomorrow.

Really!? REALLY!?
Vote: Ishmael!!! Then Visorslash for being so scummy!

BTW I hate to say I told you so, but..... I told you so. (Sorry Lux)

Visor
12-01-2013, 05:14
Do we have a gender scanner? No. We only have the claims of the players.

Speaking of which, it would be extremely helpful to get a mass claim of everyone names if not their powers as well.

I'll start:
Visor - Leigh - Vanilla Townie
Riedquat -Margaret McGill - Paranoid Scanner?
Ibn-Khaldun - Someone - Doctor
Crossroad - someone - ?
Makrell - someone - bulletproof
Chaotix - someone - ?
Ishmael - someone - roleblocker
Bsmith - someone - ?
Darth Feather - ? - ?
Dcmort - ? - ?

Lux
12-01-2013, 05:15
Really!? REALLY!?
Ishmael!!! Then Visorslash for being so scummy!

BTW I hate to say I told you so, but..... I told you so. (Sorry Lux)

*Ghostly wrath* Get the scum, he killed the pregnant lady for heavens sake. Pure evil. :whip:

Visor
12-01-2013, 05:19
In a game like this and from the previous game, there are obviously powers that aren't all what they seem.

We need a mass claim and powers. I am inclined to ignore powers at the moment but the names are important. Anyone who has some sort of usable power should probably claim.

Visor
12-01-2013, 05:20
Visor - Leigh - Vanilla Townie Riedquat -Margaret McGill - Paranoid Scanner? Ibn-Khaldun - Someone - Doctor crossroad - someone - ? Makrell - someone - bulletproof Chaotix - someone - ? Ishmael - someone - roleblocker BSmith - someone - ? Darth Feather - ? - ? dcmort93 - ? - ?

Lux
12-01-2013, 05:24
Do we have a gender scanner? No. We only have the claims of the players.

Speaking of which, it would be extremely helpful to get a mass claim of everyone names if not their powers as well.

I'll start:
Visor - Leigh - Vanilla Townie
Riedquat -Margaret McGill - Paranoid Scanner?
Ibn-Khaldun - Someone - Doctor
Crossroad - someone - ?
Makrell - someone - bulletproof
Chaotix - someone - ?
Ishmael - someone - roleblocker
Bsmith - someone - ?
Darth Feather - ? - ?
Dcmort - ? - ?

Ishmael IS NOT a blocker. Scummy as they come. Framed me. Murdered and now will kill again. Since I was innocent he must be guilty.

crossroad
12-01-2013, 05:32
The man returned, "My name is Charlie, this is Bret, and her name is Leigha. We were attacked by the Praters in Mobile a few days back. We've been wondering around since." He slowly lowered his hands and squinted his eyes a bit, "You were there! I remember you!"


Problem is, those voting the newcomers assume there is a scum amongst us. There might be, but there very well might not be, and the original scum is in the original group anyway.

I'm Leigh (or whatever it is).

Post 387


Leigha? Female? What have to do a woman to get the chance to repopulate the world? Where are the men? Michael and minion, please abstain! :clown:

Post 388


Do we have a gender scanner? No. We only have the claims of the players.

Speaking of which, it would be extremely helpful to get a mass claim of everyone names if not their powers as well.

I'll start:
Visor - Leigh - Vanilla Townie
Riedquat -Margaret McGill - Paranoid Scanner?
Ibn-Khaldun - Someone - Doctor
Crossroad - someone - ?
Makrell - someone - bulletproof
Chaotix - someone - ?
Ishmael - someone - roleblocker
Bsmith - someone - ?
Darth Feather - ? - ?
Dcmort - ? - ?

You still aren't Leigh - A MAN. You are Leigha - A WOMAN!

crossroad
12-01-2013, 05:37
Do we have a gender scanner? No. We only have the claims of the players.

Speaking of which, it would be extremely helpful to get a mass claim of everyone names if not their powers as well.

AND...The write ups say the known scum are two men and that Lux WAS a women. That is a fact!

crossroad
12-01-2013, 05:59
Ishmael is Michael. Go read the thread and then the write up. The two are parallel! Ishmael said he blocked Lux, then Lux said she blocked Ishmael. Then in the write up - Michael accusing Kassie, then Kassie accusing Michael :whip:

If this one isn't unanimous.... :no::no::no:

Riedquat
12-01-2013, 07:27
Are you kidding?

Lux was a female character, both mafia are men.

Ishmael CLAIMED to be the women in the write-up who blocked Michael, but according to the write-up it was Lux.

Vote Ishmael!!

Also in the write up it is Michael accusing her, Ishmael must be Michael!


Really!? REALLY!?
Vote: Ishmael!!! Then Visorslash for being so scummy!

BTW I hate to say I told you so, but..... I told you so. (Sorry Lux)

I tend to agree, Visor, in this point your scuminess surpassed by long Chaotix...


*Ghostly wrath* Get the scum, he killed the pregnant lady for heavens sake. Pure evil. :whip:

:bow:


In a game like this and from the previous game, there are obviously powers that aren't all what they seem.

We need a mass claim and powers. I am inclined to ignore powers at the moment but the names are important. Anyone who has some sort of usable power should probably claim.

It didn't worked very well in the previous game, all who already claimed are easy targets, I content myself knowing their sex and if they will join the party tonight :clown:


Ishmael IS NOT a blocker. Scummy as they come. Framed me. Murdered and now will kill again. Since I was innocent he must be guilty.

Indeed!


AND...The write ups say the known scum are two men and that Lux WAS a women. That is a fact!

:yes:

Riedquat
12-01-2013, 07:34
Ishmael is Michael. Go read the thread and then the write up. The two are parallel! Ishmael said he blocked Lux, then Lux said she blocked Ishmael. Then in the write up - Michael accusing Kassie, then Kassie accusing Michael :whip:

If this one isn't unanimous.... :no::no::no:

Here it is!


“It’s you… you’re the murderer. I watched you last night, you never slept either.” She turned to the group, “HE’s our murderer!”

The conflict had begun, was the murderer their trusted leader, or this woman who up to this point was virtually anonymous.
“Poor argument, to throw it right back at your accuser. Guilt is all over your face, Kassy. Grab her!”

If people can't see the parallelism they are either blind or scum... :wall:

Chaotix
12-01-2013, 07:47
Leigh can be a woman's name anyway though. Doesn't matter.

Anyway, I am Aaron.

Chaotix
12-01-2013, 07:51
Also, anyone want to give me the short version on what exactly is going on, since apparently we are past the point where I can make a random vote and feign paying attention?

How do we have a Doctor and a Roleblocker publicly outed and yet still alive?

Riedquat
12-01-2013, 07:53
Leigh can be a woman's name anyway though. Doesn't matter.

Anyway, I am ....

There is no need of that!

Riedquat
12-01-2013, 08:04
Also, anyone want to give me the short version on what exactly is going on, since apparently we are past the point where I can make a random vote and feign paying attention?

How do we have a Doctor and a Roleblocker publicly outed and yet still alive?

And a paranoid scanner!
I scanned Ferret first night as guilty, we lynched him, second night scanned I-K, guilty too... he revealed, balance of votes went against me, the host gave me immunity for being the one more talkative, balance of votes then went to rickinator who revealed as scanner too... perhaps I'm mixing phases, not really sure... a night without kills but with a solid clue in the write up pointing to a fermale watching over Michael, Ishmael claimed he/she was blocking Lux, Lux claimed she blocked Ishmael, instead of lynching one of them, town decided to lynch scummy edse... yesterday again, with the kill of rickinator who revealed after death, with host permision, he scanned Lux as innocent, both supposed blockers claimed to block Visorslash... both claimed same ability word by word, only difference being names and the fact Lux was pregnant.

Now read the last write up and you will get a clear idea of what is going on right now!

Chaotix
12-01-2013, 08:08
There is no need of that!

Are the names so important that I should not be revealing mine?

In any case, what's done is done. Don't care enough to edit it out and someone already saw.

Riedquat
12-01-2013, 08:21
Are the names so important that I should not be revealing mine?

In any case, what's done is done. Don't care enough to edit it out and someone already saw.

You are not a common person, Aaron survived the previous game... Hayden Mathews alias Michael Engels spared you...

Chaotix
12-01-2013, 08:23
You are not a common person, Aaron survived the previous game... Hayden Mathews alias Michael Engels spared you...

Then perhaps the mafia will kill me first rather than the Doctor or the Roleblocker. Works for me.

Visor
12-01-2013, 08:33
Chaotix is scuuuuuuuum.

I said Leigh or whatever, I don't remember my full name.

Ishmael is scum then, okay.

Makrell
12-01-2013, 09:43
Ishmael needs to go.

Darth Feather
12-01-2013, 10:11
My name is Crystal Perreault. I am not sure wether I am male or female. (What kind of name is that, Crystal?)

Chaotix
12-01-2013, 10:13
My name is Crystal Perreault. I am not sure wether I am male or female. (What kind of name is that, Crystal?)

Crystal is almost certainly a girl's name.

Makrell
12-01-2013, 10:14
I dont know if we should give up our names, someone might have a PG to kill certain people and so forth.

Lux
12-01-2013, 13:50
My name is Crystal Perreault. I am not sure wether I am male or female. (What kind of name is that, Crystal?)

*ghostly whimper* Crystal, that was the name I had picked out for my child...get the scum Ishmael :whip:

crossroad
12-01-2013, 14:37
*ghostly whimper* Crystal, that was the name I had picked out for my child...get the scum Ishmael :whip:

I think I'm hearing voices! ~:confused: :crazy: It sounds angelic, and seems to be guiding me in a certain direction...:angel:

crossroad
12-01-2013, 14:52
Leigh can be a woman's name anyway though. Doesn't matter.

Anyway, I am Aaron.


There is no need of that!

Everyone knows my name is Brett. Seems fair to me! :idea2:


Then perhaps the mafia will kill me first rather than the Doctor or the Roleblocker. Works for me.

Sounds scummy. Or you have a death wish? :bomb2:


Ishmael needs to go.

Murdered a pregnant woman! For shame!!! :whip:

crossroad
12-01-2013, 14:59
I dont know if we should give up our names, someone might have a PG to kill certain people and so forth.

Define PG. (Newbie, sorry) :help:

crossroad
12-01-2013, 15:09
Sorry guys, I wanted to be post number 500. ~:wave: