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Gaius Octavius Caesar
08-25-2014, 18:00
How i am not helping? I provided a good solution to end your drama.
yuonyuon
08-25-2014, 18:09
How i am not helping? I provided a good solution to end your drama.the problem is that i have no time frame. can you come up with a decent one??
also i m available only between 16:00-00:00 , and i need 4 hours like everybody else . since is a fast HS i need to know from now so i don t hold up this HS when my turn comes.
because i can t play at night . the smart thing to o is change the time frame of moors so i get from 21:00-00:00.
after all is not my fault that i don t live in america .
the problem is that i have no time frame. can you come up with a decent one??
also i m available only between 16:00-00:00 , and i need 4 hours like everybody else . since is a fast HS i need to know from now so i don t hold up this HS when my turn comes.
because i can t play at night . the smart thing to o is change the time frame of moors so i get from 21:00-00:00.
after all is not my fault that i don t live in america .
16:00-20:00 will be your time frame.
Same I proposed you on Sunday which you refused to accept.
yuonyuon
08-25-2014, 18:31
16:00-20:00 will be your time frame.
Same I proposed you on Sunday which you refused to accept.+2GM and it s a deal!
also there is huge gap between 20:00 and 06:00 in the morning. why we are arguing for there is plenty of time for both .lol
Lord Luka
08-25-2014, 18:59
BTW Moors should also not be allowed to call the jihad since they don't have the highest piety imam.
-Jihads: whenever a Jihad is available to be called, any Muslim faction can ask to have it called. However it will be the faction with the imam with the highest piety to call it,
and decide the target. If 2 or more Muslim factions have their best imam with the same level of piety, it will be the one with the second best imam to call it..and so on.
BTW Moors should also not be allowed to call the jihad since they don't have the highest piety imam.
-Jihads: whenever a Jihad is available to be called, any Muslim faction can ask to have it called. However it will be the faction with the imam with the highest piety to call it,
and decide the target. If 2 or more Muslim factions have their best imam with the same level of piety, it will be the one with the second best imam to call it..and so on. Lord Luka
We use the rule for conflicts. If the player having the right to call it give it away, then there's no problem with it.
This is a message I sent to Dux about BTD last year, when he wanted to call the Jihad (Jihad called against Sicily around turn 87 or such, my ally, so I was saying that against my interest):
https://i58.tinypic.com/zsil3.png
Basically I told him that in the last sentence that if other players had nothing against that, he could call the jihad even if he had not the imam with the highest piety.
The same goes with the Crusades, as long as there's a majority holding the votes wanting the same target and as long as there's no conflict about who has to call it.
As Jihad/Crusades are powerful tools in a HS, and the first in the turn would be always the one who can call it without consulting others, I put such rule to determine who has the right to call it. That person can waive his right if he wants to (like for instance he might not want to join it,
or he might not want to join it first to not get on the target too soon, before his allies get there).
Hello. Looks like I will need more time before I get settled in my new place, and i'm also very busy.
Since ebs is not available, i'll have Tonno do the subbing.
Subbing in a few minuts... sorry busy day @ ma Krib
Lord Luka
08-26-2014, 11:18
sonnet That is not what the rules say.The rules are very clear about the procedure for Jihad/Crusade calls so as far as i am concerned your action was against the rules as they are. It would also be nice to know what rule braking Nightbringer had in mind and what will the the consequences be.And one more thing.If a faction looses it's Jihad/Crusading army can that faction join with a new army?
Emproment
08-27-2014, 01:15
France Jiub is up.
Pics in a bit.
Nightbringer
08-27-2014, 01:27
I was mistaken. i thought this had occurred on this turn of sonnet's. Since it occurred several turns ago there will simply be a financial fine.
Yuonyuon, your save was used.
the next person to call someone a liar is getting a warning. If they do it again, an infraction.
If you all cannot act towards one another in a civil manner I am going to start deleting posts. If you keep it up, I will delete any content in posts that is not strictly required by the rules (links to saves and screenshots)
Emproment
08-27-2014, 01:28
http://www.filedropper.com/ssrc
Guys i thought i mentioned this but: i'm at the beach and won't be available until Sunday. Maybe even Monday.
Looks like good ol NB is handling the mess just fine.
Lord Luka
08-27-2014, 23:51
Teutons up!
Venice http://www.mediafire.com/download/cmhcz9kpbfke2qs/RC_Venice_12.rar
Core-i7-inside
08-28-2014, 07:50
The Moors had sacked the holy city of Rome and murdered our diplomat. They will regret this. :thumbsdown:
Norway : https://www.mediafire.com/?05k3i7gqvk84t19
The Moors had sacked the holy city of Rome and murdered our diplomat. They will regret this. :thumbsdown:
Norway : https://www.mediafire.com/?05k3i7gqvk84t19
Rome was not sacked (only occupied), and your diplomat wasn't killed by the Moors (Moorish assassin killed a french general last turn)
Core-i7-inside
08-28-2014, 13:44
Rome was not sacked (only occupied), and your diplomat wasn't killed by the Moors (Moorish assassin killed a french general last turn)
Okay, thanks for your information.
Venetian FBI is taking care of this issue, our diplomat would not die for nothing, revenge shall be taken!
Gaius Octavius Caesar
08-28-2014, 14:41
After years and years of preparations the unbreakable fortress of Hamburg has fallen to us. And with it probably the last HRE defence in the north.
Now the danger comes from the east..
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwjOIK7GgpuRMzdPc1VMVmYyU2s/edit
Who on Earth puts his armies like that... is he trying to get defeated on purpose or what :disgust:
And damn the smileys on this site are useless...
Gaius Octavius Caesar
08-28-2014, 16:20
Who on Earth puts his armies like that... is he trying to get defeated on purpose or what :disgust:
And damn the smileys on this site are useless...
He changed the defence last turn because he brought another stack and isnt allowed to build 2 stacks in a region.
EDIT: This means you re going home? )
This HS become sloooow!
lol, only compared to earlier. it is still the fastest hs im in at the moment :P
puddingkip
08-29-2014, 13:25
Blablabla I need posts in order to allow me to post links
This one will already contain my screenshots
puddingkip
08-29-2014, 13:25
Blablabla I need posts in order to allow me to post links 2
puddingkip
08-29-2014, 13:27
http://www.filedropper.com/showdownload.php/rckharezm12
Here's the save.
I killed his holiness pope fuckface and trained my assasin a bit + defeated a minor french fleet
yuonyuon
08-29-2014, 14:48
http://www.filedropper.com/showdownload.php/rckharezm12
Here's the save.
I killed his holiness pope fuckface and trained my assasin a bit + defeated a minor french fleetwhere is the save ???
edit: puddingkip your link is broken!
yuonyuon the link is working,
http://www.filedropper.com/rckharezm12
don't really understand what's your problem..
yuonyuon
08-29-2014, 20:53
just a small ship battle on the Caspian sea
sonnet up!
Save sent via pm.
Alamut fell,. I'll post ss with story tomorrow.
Core-i7-inside
08-30-2014, 08:01
I think it's time to say GG for yu. XD
Strategy lesson:
Lets start with the basic: the prey and the bait
The Sutan's Visir: Sultan why are you dividing your armies, by sending reinforcements to Tabriz and pushing through Basra? I'd suggest you to reconsider..those are secondary and unimportant targets. To win this was we need to push and take their best military centre, Alamut. We need that, because currently all the reinforcements to our troops are coming from Diyarbakir or even further than that, taking 4 years at least to reach us. If we don't take Alamut we'll stay at disadvantage and loose the position within 2-3 years if not earlier.
Sultan Sonnet:You fool! And why do you think I divided our troops..then?
The Sutan's Visir:I don't understand..concentrating our effort in Alamut is the solution.
Sultan Sonnet:what I'm doing it's called 'distraction'. Had I focused all the armies in direction of Alamut,
our enemy would have done the same. What's worse is that the armies I send as a distraction, couldn't have reached Alamut this year (turn 11) either way, so they would have been useless, while the enemy would have been able to put more armies in the range of Alamut this year, making it easy to defend it. He would have also been able (due to our inability to put it under siege) to recruit 4 additional elite units.
We had a very small opportunity to take Alamut, and to achieve that we needed some distraction. Because see, strategy is the same as in a chess board: you sacrifice some pawns to let you advance the valuable pieces through your real goal. But to make it work, we needed to give the enemy something he could really byte and chew. Give him some realistic illusion that he could accomplish something.
Because if he realizes what's going on, he could immediately retreat everything from the poor and unimportant Tabriz to defend the strategical Alamut. That's why I needed to give him soenthing to not let him understand what's really going on. By giving him our 2 armies in Yerevan's area, he'll keep his 2 stacks there and not get in the range of Alamut this year. Same goes for Basra: we keep an army there, he will keep many units there. All we need is to buy time for this year, so that we can safely put Alamut under siege and make it fall next year.
The Sutan's Visir: you really thought everything through..but how did you know the Shah's would have took the bait so easily?
Sultan Sonnet: Greediness and incompetence.. You give people the illusion they can take something easily and 'for free', no matter how small, and they'll forget abut everything else..they'll forget about what's really important for them. They won't even consider if they really really want or it will benefit what you're offering them. You can give poison for free and many people will still drink it..
Kwarezm could have still easily defended its empire if they focused on defending Alamut rather than wasting resources on Tabriz (which gave them only 1k income).Their empire could still make 35k and probably more if they managed to snatch more lands from the Mongols.
With such an income they could have easily deployed six defensive armies in Alamut area defending basically their whole empire (going for Basra would have been unfeasible regardless of how many units they put on defence, as to make a serious attempt we should have deployed at least 3 armies, but then we would have exposed our central area to attacks). Because see the map (2 turns ago when I deployed my strategy to take Alamut):
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/exp_zps3c72d1a6.jpg (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/exp_zps3c72d1a6.jpg.html)
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/exp1_zpsd846b0f8.jpg (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/exp1_zpsd846b0f8.jpg.html)
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/exp2_zps416a606c.jpg (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/exp2_zps416a606c.jpg.html)
Oncce they lost Tabriz, they could focus everything on Alamut. From there ,all they had to do was follow the movements of our armies.
Considering our handicap (as we need to keep many armies on our western borders too) they could have even taken the upper hand in a few years. That's why we needed to taint them with an easy prey..the bait..you give away the bait, and you 'll get a bigger fish!
The Sutan's Visir: but what if Yerevan falls?
Sultan Sonnet: You still don't understand..do you? Yerevan won't fall. We just sold the shah the illusion that it'll fall. We have enough reinforcements on the way to prevent the fall of the city.
But even if it fell..so what? Yerevan and the whole Caucasus is totally unimportant to us, and them. Those regions are undeveloped and extremely poor. There's nothing to gain here..or to lose. Distracting the Kwarezmian forces with armies there, was important only to not let Kwarezmian deploy 4 full stacks in Alamut's area (since 4 armies is the maximum number of stacks that can be deployed in defensive formation in the open).
The Sutan's Visir: so what will be next?..I mean after we take Alamut.
Sultan Sonnet: Oh..next, lets not anticipate everything for now..This will be fr the next strategy lesson.
In the meanwhile, send a letter to the Shah Yuonyuon. Tell him to not fear for his life: with his unique talent he'll always be welcome to our court as..jester :clown:
The entertainment's corner (aka best quotes of the Shah Yuonyuon in the last week):
Best quotes of the week:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?147569-Restless-crowns-forging-empires-Late-era-Skip-a-few&p=2053611130&viewfull=1#post2053611130
. 4 generals are history and more to come next turn
One week later..
just a small ship battle on the Caspian sea
:laugh4:
And more..
Another mistake!
the army singeing Alamut is only filled with archers and javelin man , Saban Ata is the only one that can reach and his men by merging them also if you really did that then you lost the battle i can tell you from now.
i have 25 elite units that can reach Alamut next turn .or you did something even bad , but first i have to see if i m .
....
also at Alamut i have 33 units mostly good units and elite you have 20 fking archers and a unit of elephants . .
One week later..
Alamut fell..
you really can t do nothing without Egypt .
lets see if you have some true warrior skills
Lolollolll :clown:
no master tactician lose two stacks in one turn , not even a noob.
Lolollol..no master tactcian lose in turn his best economic centre and worse his best recruitment centre just to hand them over to his enemy,
only to win 2 inconclusive battles
:clown:
i beat him very badly this turn .and the situation is getting worse for him if i continue
:rolleyes:
As for kwarezmian i can t continue since Sonnet played Core save. and i will explain why : i did some moves that next turn persian will be in a very good position (i m 10000% sure )
Loollolll...
Yuonyuon, your save was used.
Keep up the good work! :2thumbsup:
Here's the ss of Alamut
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/alamu_zpsb7680256.png (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/alamu_zpsb7680256.png.html)
Also a little fort has been taken in Yerevan (forgot to take the ss result. The siege weapon used has been disbanded)
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/alamu1_zps7185f967.png (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/alamu1_zps7185f967.png.html)
Added ss of turn 10 with explanation of my strategy
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/exp_zps3c72d1a6.jpg (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/exp_zps3c72d1a6.jpg.html)
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/exp1_zpsd846b0f8.jpg (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/exp1_zpsd846b0f8.jpg.html)
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/exp2_zps416a606c.jpg (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/exp2_zps416a606c.jpg.html)
And here's another basic lesson: always ask yourself why your opponent makes certain moves and what's his real goal.
As I moved one army south, in direction of Basra, the Shah should have asked himself what was my real goal, since he could easily block that army with a fort (even 2) as it had no siege weapons.
Even if I just wanted to defeat the FL and FH, the cavalry and general were enough for the task (even the ss of my victories hinted that..another major fail in paying attention) and I should have moved the infantry north, to reinforce the other armies, rather than keep following the general..
I did that, to keep as many units as possible there, as also his best general (2 stars, the one he had to use this turn to try to lift the siege in Alamut had 0 stars..) was forced to lose his mov.points to build the fort to protect Basra. All this should have hinted the Shah my real goal, and that everything else was being used as pawns to take Alamut before he could put enough defences.
Reloading battles, heavy scouting or simulating mov.points doesn't make anyone a pro in strategy: it just shows how much time is wasted in a turn. Thinking and counteracting your opponent's in a way like above, is how a strategist think.
yuonyuon
08-30-2014, 10:57
Do not forget that you defeated DR Mac by cheating and still you didn t explain to me why your infantry from the fort had extra +2 mov.points because that wast the difference ,
Losing 2 stacks is no strategy at all .you are going to lose that anyway . the army from Tabriz cold not reach Alamut.
at Alamut all i get was a defeat with 1400 men dead and your 5 stars general dead ,because the extra army.
Considering i started with no units around Alamut last turn , the war is not over .
can you explain this: why i can t reach your fort and you can reach Alamut?
Do not forget that you defeated DR Mac by cheating and still you didn t explain to me why your infantry from the fort had extra +2 mov.points because that wast the difference ,
More accusations from someone badly losing :dizzy2: (the one about me using Core-i7 save, or playing Tonnp's saves wasn't enough, or you never get tired of it?)..about the mov.points see below.
You got an answer..but obviously you conveniently ignore it..
I was the one unjustly affected by the breaking of rules as explained here.
About Baghdad:
I checked the rules now, and it seems I have broken them. Obviously my mistake was in good faith (it's not something that no one won't see) and the fact that no one realized that, proves that even the others were not aware.
About the possible advantage I got: I'd like to point out that all this situation raised one turn earlier, when Dr Mac illegally built 3 forts in one turn in one region.
My plan was to get from both sides with my armies:
https://i60.tinypic.com/wvweuu.jpg
By building the 3 forts he blocked my armies, saved his armies, and also blocked my spy and my assassin (if that didn't happen, I would have had the spy I needed to take Alamut this turn, since my spy lost 2 turns in going around).
More importantly if the 3 forts weren't built, by going on both sides, he couldn't have protected his armies behind Baghdad like he did (because they could have been attacked on both sides.
Situation on his turn would have been like this:
The 3 stack's group could be attacked -due to mov.points limitations by only 2 of his stacks
The fort could be attacked only by a single stack.
https://i57.tinypic.com/307nuhj.png
Losing 2 stacks is no strategy at all .you are going to lose that anyway . the army from Tabriz cold not reach Alamut.
Making new quotes...?:laugh4: Did't you get enough of what you wrote above? :clown:
at Alamut all i get was a defeat with 1400 men dead and your 5 stars general dead ,because the extra army.
Explained previously that already.. if you didn't bribe the army in Yerevan you would had recruited the elephant unit which i wouldn't then recruited. You having the elephant unit and me not having it, would have made the difference with some heavy realoading you're expert into.
Your choice was losing Tabriz or Alamut. Losing Tabriz was a much better choice (for many reasons, which i'd explain, but I think you can hardly understand..) and by keeping Alamut and saving the armies in the North, slowly you would had regained what you lost.
Considering i started with no units around Alamut last turn , the war is not over .
Again Alamut could be easily defended..but thanks to your lack of strategy I now enjoy it.
can you explain this: why i can t reach your fort and you can reach Alamut?
I used a magic spell (quoting you..https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?147569-Restless-crowns-forging-empires-Late-era-Skip-a-few&p=2053611135&viewfull=1#post2053611135).. lol lol. :laugh4:
For a more boring serious answer..
Posting this just to avoid some new stupid accusation of someone badly losing.
In case you still didn't figure it out the difference is that the army in Alamut to move out of the Fortress in direction of the fort, need to move in diagonal -which waste about 1.5 mov point tiles- while I move always linearly to get out of the fort-
I don't know if it's too complicated for you to understand how I wrote it, but can't explain it any clearer than that.
Another major fail.. one turn earlier I even moved back that army in the fort after the victory over the Kwarezm army. Would you lose less time in reloading/scouting and more into thinking..maybe you would figure it out some more useful things..:yes:
yuonyuon
08-30-2014, 11:29
good news . so we all can cheat in good faith?
i point out that you cheated and you told me that dr mac made extra fort , then booth of us should be fined .
no strategist win battles by cheating that s my opinion.
i know you are in comfortable position (earned like always)having all neighbors allies and they give you tones of money and all of that , because nobody have the courage to play the game at the highest level. but i m here to give a fight. the game is not over!
i know you are in comfortable position (earned like always)having all neighbors allies and they give you tones of money and all of that , because nobody have the courage to play the game at the highest level. but i m here to give a fight. the game is not over!
:rolleyes:
To bad Durex isn't here...
yuonyuon
08-30-2014, 11:36
Posting this just to avoid some new stupid accusation of someone badly losing.
In case you still didn't figure it out the difference is that the army in Alamut to move out of the Fortress in direction of the fort, need to move in diagonal -which waste about 1.5 mov point tiles- while I move always linearly to get out of the fort-
I don't know if it's too complicated for you to understand how I wrote it, but can't explain it any clearer than that.
Another major fail.. one turn earlier I even moved back that army in the fort after the victory over the Kwarezm army. Would you lose less time in reloading/scouting and more into thinking..maybe you would figure it out some more useful things..
i guess that was my mistake! not paying attention of a simple fact .
it happens that as was my first time seeing the kwarezm turn .
anyway my next plan is better .
Cities can be taken with share force but when you are going to defeat one of my stacks you can call a good player . until then keep doing your thing.
i guess that was my mistake! not paying attention of a simple fact .
it happens that as was my first time seeing the kwarezm turn .
anyway my next plan is better .
Cities can be taken with share force but when you are going to defeat one of my stacks you can call a good player . until then keep doing your thing.
I'll save that for a future strategy's lesson, although I won't explain you now why.
yuonyuon
08-30-2014, 11:44
:rolleyes:
To bad Durex isn't here...everybody was here if the rules were respected , it could be a very interactive HS .
Gaius Octavius Caesar
08-30-2014, 11:45
yuonyuon learn to lose mate :bow:
Ive seen smth on twc that Auran is missing and he needs subs in all his hotseats.
yuonyuon
08-30-2014, 11:51
I'll save that for a future strategy's lesson, although I won't explain you now why.
well if i knew that army can get that extra mov points ,then is no strategy at all , not even the elephants could save me, as you show my armies are crap . all these post are just to fell better by yourself after you lost 6000 men and 4 good general .
when was you r last time when you lose so many men , also you really did a big mistake and i wont tell you , even i badly can keep it secret
next turn you will see how thing are done in a HS .
yuonyuon
08-30-2014, 11:53
yuonyuon learn to lose mate :bow:
Ive seen smth on twc that Auran is missing and he needs subs in all his hotseats.
you see me quitting??
I will fight to the end>! fair!
Gaius Octavius Caesar
08-30-2014, 11:57
you see me quitting??
I will fight to the end>! fair!
Re-read my post, when i said you re quitting? And i admire you for that, not many stay until the end.
Also, you re the only one who didnt chose a sub so pls do it and share your pass.
well if i knew that army can get that extra mov points ,then is no strategy at all , not even the elephants could save me, as you show my armies are crap . .
Your armies were crap...? :dizzy2:
But you said you had elite units..
also at Alamut i have 33 units mostly good units and elite you have 20 fking archers and a unit of elephants . do the math.
lets face it if i continue playing you lose .( :clown:)
And no..the elephant made the difference..when loading the previous turn I was already giggling knowing I would have seen some stupid move. An elephant unit is worth 8 average unit. So me having -8 units and you having +8 unit would have made the difference. You're just in denial in accepting that you're not capable of thinking strategically and trying to justify all your mistakes.
Gaius Octavius Caesar : I think he gave his pswd to Core-i7-inside
Gaius Octavius Caesar
08-30-2014, 13:00
That army..
Lord Luka
08-30-2014, 13:44
That luck ...
That army..
I think the difference was that France had no general. French army seemed as good as the Spanish one, but Spain had a 5 stars general.
If France had a general like that, Spain would have got (if possible) a much worse victory and subsequent victories would have been worse or not possible.
Also I think that the siege weapon was the mercenary unit which became available only this turn (something that France couldn't know), as I could see with my turkish army (coming before Spain and France I could see that with my Jihad army)
Lord Luka
08-30-2014, 14:01
Yep. And the general in that army was the french king who for some reson decided that this was a good turn to die :no:
yuonyuon
08-30-2014, 14:54
Re-read my post, when i said you re quitting? And i admire you for that, not many stay until the end.
Also, you re the only one who didnt chose a sub so pls do it and share your pass.you said "learn to lose mate" what that suppose to mean. that i don t know how to lose? can t you see i m losing because an elephant unit GD.it!
but its not just an elephant is a master plan behind it , years of training . bla bla . :))) the good thing is that i have a challenge here.that keep me in this HS.
Gaius Octavius Caesar
08-30-2014, 15:14
you said "learn to lose mate" what that suppose to mean. that i don t know how to lose? can t you see i m losing because an elephant unit GD.it!
but its not just an elephant is a master plan behind it , years of training . bla bla . :))) the good thing is that i have a challenge here.that keep me in this HS.
Its an expression.. and it was meant for this turn. I didnt said that you re already beaten, im confident that you ll turn the outcome of the war.
Emproment
08-30-2014, 19:06
Hello all, I'm extremely intoxicated and will be all day today.
I will require a subber!
yuonyuon
08-30-2014, 19:26
i can subb! also i have the pass.
edit: no more!
Hello all, I'm extremely intoxicated and will be all day today.
I will require a subber! Emproment
You have time until tomorrow (10am time in London).
You got the save in advance, and jiub won't be here until tomorrow
Emproment
08-30-2014, 20:56
I don't think I'll be available during that time, sorry.
I'll sub you, as I'm your official subber.
From the look of it Norway is in deep troubles.
Nightbringer
08-30-2014, 23:39
I'm not sure if what is in thread is the latest save, so I need the most recent save sent to me in order to implement the financial penalty of 5000 on the Seljuks.
Exter, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Hanburg ,Ahrus, Salzburg, Ancona fell this turn.
Norwegian king defeated and killed, same goes for the new French king in Edinburgh fort.
The unit bribed was a catapult used later to attack the fort in Edinburgh. Norwegian new FL in Inverness defeated .
Venetian armies in Ancona destroyed.
In case anyone wondered, the plague in Salzbug has been brought in by the HRE general, not the spies (not done on purpose anyway, but rather unavoidable)
Here are the ss
http://www.filedropper.com/sub_1
Save sent to Nightbringer.
yuonyuon
08-31-2014, 07:32
Exter, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Hanburg ,Ahrus, Salzburg, Ancona fell this turn.
Norwegian king defeated and killed, same goes for the new French king in Edinburgh fort.
The unit bribed was a catapult used later to attack the fort in Edinburgh. Norwegian new FL in Inverness defeated .
Venetian armies in Ancona destroyed.
In case anyone wondered, the plague in Salzbug has been brought in by the HRE general, not the spies (not done on purpose anyway, but rather unavoidable)
Here are the ss
http://www.filedropper.com/sub_1
Save sent to Nightbringer.busy night ..?
Core-i7-inside
08-31-2014, 08:21
The new Venice has fallen!?
This is bad, this is really bad. :no:
Gaius Octavius Caesar
08-31-2014, 11:56
Forgot about the ship.. i couldve sunk it . damn.
Forgot about the ship.. i couldve sunk it . damn.
If wouldn't have made a difference: HRE's FM could have recruited a Mercenary cog in Ahrus region.
And even if you thought about that, Emproment placed a catapult north of his fort (the one I used to take Ahrus).
So you could have save Ahrus from being sacked but not Hamburg
Gaius Octavius Caesar
08-31-2014, 14:20
If wouldn't have made a difference: HRE's FM could have recruited a Mercenary cog in Ahrus region.
And even if you thought about that, Emproment placed a catapult north of his fort (the one I used to take Ahrus).
So you could have save Ahrus from being sacked but not Hamburg
Oh, ok.
This happens when i rush things but i needed to end the war with HRE asap and unfortunately didnt went as planned.
Emproment
08-31-2014, 20:43
sonnet, the pictures don't work for me for some reason.
Says it's corrupted.
Emproment : did you try to download it a second time?
Try this
http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/library/EngHRE12
http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/slideshow/EngHRE12
Emproment
08-31-2014, 21:42
I tried a few times and it said the same thing each time. Weird.
But the photobucket works fine.
Nightbringer
09-01-2014, 02:50
france should use this password. I've updated it to give the -5000 financial penalty to the Turks. If any future violations of this rule occur the penalty will increase.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10654
Nightbringer
09-01-2014, 20:30
sonnet
A rule question has come up.
- No crusade or Jihads abuse. Only the crusade/jihad target is allowed to be attacked.No joining a Crusade or a Jihad to get units or movement points and then leaving the invasion. Once you join in crusade or jihad you MUST go all the way to the crusade or jihads target and attempt to capture it. Armies or forts of the enemy target can be attacked if on the way to the crusade/jihad target (They must really be on your way to the target, and they should represent a real obstacle or threat to the crusade/jihad army . You can't use them for instance, to break a siege on one of your cities)
Must a crusading army move directly towards its target on every turn, or can it hold its position?
Emproment
09-01-2014, 20:57
Well, if the admin doesn't know, then who does know?
Nightbringer as far as we used in the past, the Jihad/Crusade army doesn't necessarily need to use all the mov.points to get to the target.\
It depends on many factors (like waiting for the allies or meet with the allies on some point, taking a longer route if the shortest is not safe, or using only half mov.point to not get in the range of enemy' armies and so on). But if the Jihad/crusade army is used for purposes that are different from the one it's supposed to, then the admin should intervene.
In the past players used jihad armies to take directly or undirectly (as reinforcements) settlements different from the targets, or to block routes in strategic point in the map, or used them with a defensive purpose (like keeping near its own settlements). Those should not be allowed.
Generally speaking if the player could have moved the army closer to the target without putting it in danger , then there should be no reason to not move. It's up to admin look at the jihad moves and see if the player didn't move for some reason not related to the jihad/crusade.
If this is referred to the Moorish Jihad army near Lyon, my opinion is that the Jihad army should and could have moved further (for instance my army- the turkish one- moved forward without being at risk-a spot which could have been reached by the Moors too-, unless there's some big stack hidden nearby) rather than holding the position, last turn as from what I could see he could have moved forward without putting at risk the army itself.
Maybe you can either fine or move the army to a different location (or a combo of both) if this is a problem fro France. In the past jihad/crusade armies that have been found holding off have been disbanded in some cases.
yuonyuon
09-01-2014, 21:23
Well, if the admin doesn't know, then who does know?Lets ask the one that made the rules:)))))
Emproment
09-01-2014, 22:42
Lets ask the one that made the rules:)))))
Ah, but look at what Sonnet wrote --> "Blahblahblah admin should decide blahblahblah."
yuonyuon
09-01-2014, 23:02
Ah, but look at what Sonnet wrote --> "Blahblahblah admin should decide blahblahblah."lately when i see a wall of text i just scroll down . i don t know exactly what the problem is but since the crusade/jihad armies have enormous mov points they really can t move back.
"Armies or forts of the enemy target can be attacked if on the way to the crusade/jihad target (They must really be on your way to the target,)"
that means there is only one way . and you ether go forward or stop , if that is not true then you can go all over and destroy all armies that are in your way .
so what is the way??
better thing to do wast to announce from the turn before the crusade/jihad is called: Jihad at Paris . route : Marseilles-Lyon-Paris
gather point at Palermo or something like that:)))
edit: then we will have a bloody fight .
Lord Luka
09-01-2014, 23:10
TO up!
Pics come tomorrow.I am really tired right now.
IMO Moors should be fined for now moving their army at all.
yuonyuon
09-01-2014, 23:22
Example:
Crusade: Constantinople
Gather point : Belgrade
Route: Scopia, Thessaloniki, Adrianopole,Constantinople.
All the armies/forts that blocked the ROAD of this route can be attacked by crusading army
The crusade army can t go backward . only stop or forward
Once the route is not respected the army should be disbanded immediately by admin
just my opinion
Venice http://www.mediafire.com/download/e9zhvrpxfa9x689/RC_Venice_13.rar
If the SS has all regular Jihad/Crusade game mech then army should be allowed to: not move. Since defender is getting his time and the attacker is losing his time as well as his armies plus attacker would not be placed in a awkward ambush if he is forced straight up regardless of his reinforcement, nothing is unfair in that position. I would even allow moving back, but the HS communty had his rules like this for a long time so there's no need for change.
Of course, we could say that by stoping one is getting the upkeep saved up. Irrelevant.
About yuon proposal: That dosn't address possible problem.
Paris is the target, gather point set as Rheims, rout Rheims-Paris. I can still stop or avoid possible combat, etc.
This kind of rule is pretty straight up, simple and one of the better in compared to older types. The things is that it doesn't specify a lot what is in this case, type of game mech, good. Admin can easily oversee and remove possible exploits. (Only problem could be turning on and off of the Crusade/Jihad... cheap)
Nightbringer
09-02-2014, 14:31
Alright, since it seems to have been left to me. You can stop a crusading/jihad army, and can even move backwards, but it cannot end its turn further away from its route to the target than it started its turn.
Gaius Octavius Caesar
09-02-2014, 16:08
After the death of King Ragnar, the russian and swedish nobles took advantage of the situation and gain the crown of Norway.
King Burislev I is crowned in Scotland but his reign will be short in view of the situation there. Will the swedish rule Scandinavia for the first time?
Arhus was recaptured and rebuild.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwjOIK7GgpuRMW1tTjl5U2VTbjQ/edit
Lord Luka
09-02-2014, 18:21
Pics.
Moorish Jihad army has been destroyed.Two more armies remain. It will soon be know what becomes of them.
WUT this file?
sonnet... I can't open it :(
Fixed it, thank you!
WUT this file?
Tonno : pictures from yesterday's turn of Hungary and France
Lord Luka: you surprised me by taking Innsbruck. You do know that there's a chance your super-general might die for the plague he contracted?
Tonno: I can open it. Try to install 7zip or re-download the file
puddingkip : as your jihad army got destroyed, you can't make a new one, as there's a limit of one jihad/crusade army per faction. Saying this just in case you were wondering
Emproment
09-03-2014, 06:00
"Only 1 army per faction is allowed to join in a crusade/Jihad,No MORE!"
This rule allows 1 army per faction. But since the Moors have 0 jihad armies, they should be allowed to have 1 standing jihad army.
The crusade/jihad should not be over for a faction when 1 army gets defeated, but it should be over once the elapsed turns have occurred and the jihad/crusade ends for everyone at once.
"Only 1 army per faction is allowed to join in a crusade/Jihad,No MORE!"
This rule allows 1 army per faction. But since the Moors have 0 jihad armies, they should be allowed to have 1 standing jihad army.
.
The rule is what it says: one army only is allowed. Once that one dies, that's it.
If you read somewhere that you're allowed to eat one sandwich, it's not like you eat the first, and then eat the second saying that since the first disappeared in your stomach,you have 0 sandwiches standing in you hands...don't you?:rolleyes:
It's one and one only as written. Couldn't be clearer than that.
yuonyuon
09-03-2014, 11:13
I'm not sure if what is in thread is the latest save, so I need the most recent save sent to me in order to implement the financial penalty of 5000 on the Seljuks.Penalty for what??
Penalty for what??
For the rule broken in Baghdad you complained for.
yuonyuon
09-03-2014, 12:57
For the rule broken in Baghdad you complained for.5k ? pfff .anyway lets forget about this .
Gaius Octavius Caesar
09-03-2014, 13:22
Penalty for what??
EDIT: Already been answered.
5k ? pfff .anyway lets forget about this .
You're breaking the assassin rule since 3 turns (and Dr mac was breaking it since more than 3 too, with at least 3 assassins),
and yet i didn't ask any penalty for you or you predecessor.
Dr Mac also broke the fort rule not once (in Baghdad) but in Yerevan too, and didn't ask any penalty for that .
Yes , lets forget about this too.
yuonyuon
09-03-2014, 15:17
You're breaking the assassin rule since 3 turns (and Dr mac was breaking it since more than 3 too, with at least 3 assassins),
and yet i didn't ask any penalty for you or you predecessor.
Dr Mac also broke the fort rule not once (in Baghdad) but in Yerevan too, and didn't ask any penalty for that .
Yes , lets forget about this too.for a fort rule the fine is between 2-5k
but for destroying half of persian army and taking a city by cheating is same 5k???
i already forgot about this .
waiting my turn. i don t even waist my time with this type of things .
i m here to play.
for a fort rule the fine is between 2-5k
but for destroying half of persian army and taking a city by cheating is same 5k???
i already forgot about this .
waiting my turn. i don t even waist my time with this type of things .
i m here to play.
You can repeat the same over and over, and it won't make it true:
the fort he built, prevented me from taking Baghdad legally and saved 2 of his armies.
I posted the ss showing everything. No rules broken on either sides, and I would still take Baghdad fair and square. The ss I posted are not difficult to understand, they just need unbiased eyes.
The fact that you say punishment for fort is 2k-5k without looking at the advantage the player got from it, shows your usual bias..
Funny part is that you left a HS (BFE) because someone broke the fort rule..but now you're saying it's not that important..you never change..don't you?
yuonyuon
09-03-2014, 15:47
You can repeat the same over and over, and it won't make it true:
the fort he built, prevented me from taking Baghdad legally and saved 2 of his armies.
I posted the ss showing everything. No rules broken on either sides, and I would still take Baghdad fair and square. The ss I posted are not difficult to understand, they just need unbiased eyes.
The fact that you say punishment for fort is 2k-5k without looking at the advantage the player got from it, shows your usual bias..
Funny part is that you left a HS (BFE) because someone broke the fort rule..but now you're saying it's not that important..you never change..don't you?i m not saying is not important!
Actually is very important , the problem is lack of admining .After all this time you get 5k fine is ridiculous . is to damn funny . this is not a fine this is a bonus!
you admitted that you didn t had siege weapons so how you could take Baghdad. good question.
the answer is by braking the rule.
ok i m done on this subject as only me, you and Dr mac know what happened , the rest non t care, so let s continue.
i m not saying is not important!
Actually is very important , the problem is lack of admining .After all this time you get 5k fine is ridiculous . is to damn funny . this is not a fine this is a bonus!
you admitted that you didn t had siege weapons so how you could take Baghdad. good question.
the answer is by braking the rule.
ok i m done on this subject as only me, you and Dr mac know what happened , the rest non t care, so let s continue.
lol
i m not saying is not important!
Actually is very important , the problem is lack of admining .After all this time you get 5k fine is ridiculous . is to damn funny . this is not a fine this is a bonus!
you admitted that you didn t had siege weapons so how you could take Baghdad. good question.
the answer is by braking the rule.
ok i m done on this subject as only me, you and Dr mac know what happened , the rest non t care, so let s continue.
Man..I don't really know if you're serious or not.
I obviously had the siege weapons to take Baghdad (on turn 9).
The armies that were blocked (on turn 8) by the illegal fort had not siege weapons. Those armies were supposed to support (form the quarisiya way) the assault on Baghdad (on turn 9) with the armies coming (with siege weapons) from Mosul's way.
Building the forts, forced the armies in Qarisiya to go the Mosul's way too (and this allowed Kwarezm to safely put 2 stacks behind Baghdad, something he couldn't have done without building the illegal fort).
All in all the fact that you keep talking without knowledge (or will to understand facts, since I provided all the relevant infos) lead me to believe this is your usual biased propaganda.
Only thing I understand from your writing is that if rules are broken against your interests, then regardless of what happened it's something tragic and the opponent need to be executed.
But in your favour,then it's either no punishment at all or -in the worst case scenario- a simple fine is enough (regardless of the advantage you got from it).
Funny part in all this, is that when Dr Mac broke the fort rule, he got the appropriate punishment (not allowed to move armies in baghdad for one turn). But the player asked to turn the faction to ai if such punishment didn't get turn in a financial fine. And I said nothing.
Funny part is that you broke (with your predecessor) the assassin rule for 6 consecutive turns (and if you were in good faith you could have mentioned you had 3 assassins, rather to keep silent about it thinking I wouldn't find out..). And I said nothing , other than asking you to stop breaking the rule.
And the most hilarious of all, is that you accused me of playing Tonno's save..and why did you think that? Oh yes..because I wasn't posting Egypt's saves..but that was because you were downloading them (getting infos you were not supposed to have) even if you were warned 2-3 times that loading other player's turns is cheating!
But sure..keep talking about breaking the rules..coming form you I can see the irony in it.
yuonyuon
09-03-2014, 18:16
i ave got 5 assassins on my first turn and i suicide just one by reloading. this turn i will suicide another one maybe two and so on . as long i didn t use them , your complain is worthless.
the rule say you have to suicide them immediately , tell me how to do that?
puddingkip
09-03-2014, 19:41
http://www.filedropper.com/rckharezm13
http://steamcommunity.com/id/puddingkip/screenshots/ pics can be found here. Basically I did very little again except move my troops about and getting ready for war. I know I forgot to take a result screenshot of me fighting the Pope again but seriously look at the odds and it's not even possible to fight the pope in a manual battle. I won, took 25 casualties in a garbage spearmen unit and the pope died. Hope I won't have to replay for this
pics can be found here. Basically I did very little again except move my troops about and getting ready for war. puddingkip : sorry maybe I should have mentioned it to you. You don't need to post ss for battles vs the AI (means AI factions).
Only ss for battles played against factions controlled by Humans. But obviously if you want you can still post ss of battles against the AI (for rp purposes, if you like to)
puddingkip
09-03-2014, 19:59
puddingkip : sorry maybe I should have mentioned it to you. You don't need to post ss for battles vs the AI (means AI factions).
Only ss for battles played against factions controlled by Humans. But obviously if you want you can still post ss of battles against the AI (for rp purposes, if you like to)
Meh not really interested in that bit, I'm an awful writer but well you can find the screenshots there anyway
go go powerrangers... we can get 4 faction out in the next few hours.
Lord Luka
09-03-2014, 20:05
Tonno : pictures from yesterday's turn of Hungary and France
Lord Luka: you surprised me by taking Innsbruck. You do know that there's a chance your super-general might die for the plague he contracted?
Tonno: I can open it. Try to install 7zip or re-download the file
puddingkip : as your jihad army got destroyed, you can't make a new one, as there's a limit of one jihad/crusade army per faction. Saying this just in case you were wondering
sonnet yes i know that my general can die of plague but that doesn't happen very often as far as i know (although cosidering my luck i got while subbing france that may as well happen).Only other choice i had was leaving salzburg and innsbruck to HRE beacuse of the plague and i don't find that option very attractive.
Core-i7-inside
09-03-2014, 20:50
Well, it seems I've missed my turn. :|
I'm sorry, my internet had been down for 2 days.
Gaius Octavius Caesar
09-03-2014, 21:08
go go powerrangers... we can get 4 faction out in the next few hours.
Which ones?
Kwarzem, Turks, Egypt, Castile.
Kwarzem, Turks, Egypt, Castile.
Yeah..lets keep dreaming about Yuonyuon playing his save in 2 hours or less..(regardless of what he swear or promise). At least now everyone can see the real truth behind Yuonyuon requests of the time windows.
As usual I was right.
Lol
yuonyuon
09-04-2014, 08:47
Yeah..lets keep dreaming about Yuonyuon playing his save in 2 hours or less..(regardless of what he swear or promise). At least now everyone can see the real truth behind Yuonyuon requests of the time windows.
As usual I was right.
Lolthere is no reloading involved i received the save via PM at 22:00 as the save posted in the thread was no good and i was kind busy.i will post in about 4 hours from now when i got home from work.
moors save was played in my time frame . so i have the right to extra time.
good news. :i killed another assassin last night
Thread save works properly.
Your time frames are really really weird yuon. Your save posts here and TWC are different as well as time-work relation of those saves, your work time is weird for one European.
yuonyuon
09-04-2014, 09:49
Thread save works properly.
Your time frames are really really weird yuon. Your save posts here and TWC are different as well as time-work relation of those saves, your work time is weird for one European.what you trying to say....is?? time i wired :))))
i didn t invent time so i can t help you!
edit : here is 12:00 but on the forum is 11:00 , the save i got was moors save but later was modified.
anyway what do you care . i m here now :))))
puddingkip
09-04-2014, 11:28
Thread save works properly.
Your time frames are really really weird yuon. Your save posts here and TWC are different as well as time-work relation of those saves, your work time is weird for one European.
No the save I posted was screwed. He got it via pm later. I saved before clicking end turn so technically it was still my turn even though I was done
Gaius Octavius Caesar
09-04-2014, 11:32
there is no reloading involved i received the save via PM at 22:00 as the save posted in the thread was no good and i was kind busy.i will post in about 4 hours from now when i got home from work.
moors save was played in my time frame . so i have the right to extra time.
good news. :i killed another assassin last night
Im curious, how much time do you guys spend on your turns?
yuonyuon
09-04-2014, 11:32
Just upload the save. please don't say that
just shut up!!
if next turn takes this ammout of time, I'll request admin to remove you form the HS for obstruction of set up that you agreed on, on the start of the HS and the second time you joined.
Im curious, how much time do you guys spend on your turns?
Is that a general question?
yuonyuon
09-04-2014, 11:37
Turks up!
sonnet up!
i played my turn in about 1-1.5 hours since is a complex turn .
last night i received the save to late and i did had the chance to play .but some players are not understand what good manners are.
yuonyuon
09-04-2014, 11:38
if next turn takes this ammout of time, I'll request admin to remove you form the HS for obstruction of set up that you agreed on the start of the HS, and the second time you joined.again, please don't say that!
edit:you don t know what are you talking about !
my schedule is between 16:00-20:00 and moors played on my time frame.
that s all just a fort taken this turn!
again shut up!
edit:you don t know what are you talking about !
my schedule is between 16:00-20:00 and moors played on my time frame.
Couldn't care less. (the little care that I have, is that I will have to play my turn today, not yesterday)
.but some players are not understand what good manners are.
Says the person that tells others to shut up. You are one conflicted person, aren't you?
It's not that I wasn't raised to understand how to act in good manners, it's that I don't care what they are.
yuonyuon
09-04-2014, 11:51
Couldn't care less. (the little care that I have, is that I will have to play my turn today, not yesterday)
Says the person that tells others to shut up. You are one conflicted person, aren't you?
It's not that I wasn't raised to understand how to act in good manners, it's that I don't care what they are.i have too many accusations to explain in PM so please post something nicer than"just post the save" since i didn t had the chance to do it last night night .
that means you are not a reasonable person or are you joking!!!
invicta already filled my inbox with these types of messages every time my turn comes.
i have too many accusations to explain in PM so please post something nicer than"just post the save" since i didn t had the chance to do it last night night .
that means you are not a reasonable person or are you joking!!!
invicta already filled my inbox with these types of messages every time my turn comes.
So now we are on the - you didn't have time to post your save; not on- I didn't have time to play it. Interesting.
EDIT: After checking the thread again, you actualy never said you didn't play... you just said you can't post the save... even more interesting. Yep, I think I'll demand your exemption form this HS next time.
Problems are things that cause conflicted situations, leaveing them unintended can cause situations that may never be solved.
The concept of problems works easy: if you solve them (problems) it's not a problem any more.
Conclusion: Just post the save.
You see, I am a reasonable person. (although many say I am not) :dizzy:
Im curious, how much time do you guys spend on your turns?
around 20 minutes normally, 40 minutes tops if it is a complex turn. Im a but old school so i reload as little as possible, therefore what i do usually stays.
yuonyuon
09-04-2014, 12:25
So now we are on the - you didn't have time to post your save; not on- I didn't have time to play it. Interesting.
EDIT: After checking the thread again, you actualy never said you didn't play... you just said you can't post the save... even more interesting. Yep, I think I'll demand your exemption form this HS next time.
Problems are things that cause conflicted situations, leaveing them unintended can cause situations that may never be solved.
The concept of problems works easy: if you solve them (problems) it's not a problem any more.
Conclusion: Just post the save.
You see, I am a reasonable person. (although many say I am not) :dizzy:there was no problem , you just created a problem without even know. but you see only from your point of view .
now you want to kick me out on a false basses , that's another problem.
where is the reasonable part here?
nowhere ....
why every time there is 2 downloads on the turks save?? since sonnet is not online for a while/.
edit : i know the answer don t post!pls
there was no problem , you just created a problem without even know. but you see only from your point of view .
now you want to kick me out on a false basses , that's another problem.
where is the reasonable part here?
nowhere ....
why every time there is 2 downloads on the turks save?? since sonnet is not online for a while/.
edit : i know the answer don t post!pls
Dude, I live to create problems. What you noticed well.
So how can you say that I don't have "basses" for kicking you out, if I created a problem?
Problem = "basses" for kicking you out. But, I'm a merciful Inquisitor, so I give you one more chance... in other words you post your turns properly from now on.
Oh, you noticed that well... again, swift mind by youn. So I got to go clean, sorry sonnet
Actually, I am the mastermind not Invicta, it goes all the way back to Rex HS where I crushed him with my superior tactics (played weaker faction)... and from there to now we have a pact: I send him orders on how to play his turn and conduct diplomacy (to win games and wars) and he has to secure a job for me in some Irish tech company for when I end my education.
You can see when he plays his turns and when he plays my orders. The Baghdad breaking-of-the-sige rule was totaly his own turn. Taking the Almut was mine, clear as my hair after the bath.
yuonyuon
09-04-2014, 13:19
Ok "problem creator" why don t you tel invicta to hurry up!!! he got another 2 hours left . he must play until 16:00 London hour.
Why would I it's not a problem if he has 1.5 more hours to do his turn.
THE REAL PROBLEM, is that you didn't post your turn last night. We could have been on ENGLAND turn at least. Actually
Last Activity
Today 05:36 - for Auran. We could have done the HRE-England combination.
yuonyuon
09-04-2014, 13:54
Why would I it's not a problem if he has 1.5 more hours to do his turn.
THE REAL PROBLEM, is that you didn't post your turn last night. We could have been on ENGLAND turn at least. Actually
Last Activity
Today 05:36 - for Auran. We could have done the HRE-England combination.i m glad that you like fast Hostseats .
but HRE_England combination what do you mean?. How many factions are without a player???
i m glad that you like fast Hostseats .
but HRE_England combination what do you mean?. How many factions are without a player???
You said you skip long text posts. I think you skip every text that is not yours.
yuonyuon
09-04-2014, 14:00
You said you skip long text posts. I think you skip every text that is not yours.that was a simple question . how many factions are without player??
that was a simple question . how many factions are without player??
One. Technically none. But I understand what you asked.
Save sent to Egypt
Jihad ended (Paris captured with overwhelming odds). I'll post story later
Tonno let me know if the pswd has been changed
Took fort with catpult and broke the naval blockade at Leon.
Sorry no pics. Don't punish me, pleas.
Cheap strategy brings cheap results..
The Shah Yuonyuon is managing to totally sink a faction that seemed invincible..
This season the ridiculous strategy was, to win the war in the Caucasus , to trick us into getting a small fort with a siege weapon
near Yerevan and then he was confident he could bribe our siege weapon to use it against us and take Yerevan..
All good if it wasn't for the fact that we disbanded the siege weapon before he could bribe it..lol
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/m4_zps85c6db5e.png (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/m4_zps85c6db5e.png.html)
On Baku the situation was even more tragicomic..
His plan was to get us by surprise by leaving only 8-9 units in the ships in Baku..
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/m3_zpsfe27933b.png (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/m3_zpsfe27933b.png.html)
then use some units he moved on purpose on the other side of the Caspian sea ready for the assault
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/m2_zpsd9d9e176.png (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/m2_zpsd9d9e176.png.html)
and surprise us (or that's what he wanted to believe.. :rolleyes:) by recruiting 9 mercenary units in Khiva's region..
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/m1_zpsf73b661b.png (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/m1_zpsf73b661b.png.html)
Too bad that all his efforts (reloading all night long.. lol :laugh4: he got exhausted in the morning ) were vain.
Or castle resisted to any attack, and his empty threats didn't scare us.
Peace offer..
The Shah this morning in face of his ineptitude ,had to ask for peace.
He got a generous offer but we believe he's still living in dreamland thinking he could dictate the terms of the peace..lol.
So no peace was agreed in the end.
Phyrric victory
Our armies succeeded in capturing Paris. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like we'll be able to hold the city for long..
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/h10_zps9f6704d2.png (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/h10_zps9f6704d2.png.html)
@Gaius Octavius Casear
Most players won't tell you really how much time they spend on their turns. But you can easily spot the hard-core hs'eaters (the ones who spend 8-9 hours on their turn). Those players usually don't leave their settlements at risk of being infiltrated and conquered with spies. So if you have armies nearby, and they don't have spies in it (which you can see by pointing any spy to that settlement and see if the odds are over 30%) it's because they literally scouted the whole map -inch by inch-around them. I saw that happening more than once. Mostly they spend time by scouting every inch of the map , reloading and simulating battle results. One player who was previously playing here, admitted he spent 5 hours simulating a battle to be sure I couldn't beat his armies. Currently we have one hard-core player, plus the one who was previously playing and another one external to this HS.
Personally I spend normally (when free from everything else) less than an hour depending on the size of my faction. Most of the time is spend in replaying, because I try to avoid reloading and intermediate saves (they give malus, or prevent form getting certain bonuses). If I don't make mistakes with the mouse, less than 40 minutes is what it takes me.
(they give malus, or prevent form getting certain bonuses)
So that is true... daaaamn. I guess you learn things every day.
yuonyuon
09-04-2014, 19:42
Oh crap all my plans was revealed:)))))))))))))))
yo r credibility is falling badly .
the army from the est shore of Caspian sea don t even reach Baku by a huuuugeeeee marge.
Oh crap all my plans was revealed:)))))))))))))))
yo r credibility is falling badly .
the army from the est shore of Caspian sea don t even reach Baku by a huuuugeeeee marge.
That's because you miscalculated..another fail :laugh4:
You moved those units to the coast last turn and now you're moving them back in the other direction..
Funny part is that you said yourself about your intentions this morning (although everything was evident form the beginning..lol):
so war it is! master tactician in your dreams. you forgot about mercenaries last turn , and now you could lose Baku and you r FL . actually if i didn t rush my first turn you were defeated by now .
I can see from your moves that your going in total confusion (rumbling and mubling about nonsense like the mercenaries which i had none available lol..and moving your armies forward and back lol..) without any real idea about how to manage a campaign..lol
yuonyuon
09-04-2014, 20:02
That's because you miscalculated..another fail :laugh4:
You moved those units to the coast last turn and now you're moving them back in the other direction..
Funny part is that you said yourself about your intentions this morning (although everything was evident form the beginning..lol):
I can see from your moves that your going in total confusion (rumbling and mubling about nonsense like the mercenaries which i had none available lol..and moving your armies forward and back lol..) without any real idea about how to manage a campaign..lolConfusing the enemy is always a good strategy.
why did you think i moved all elite units to Tabriz??
Not to mention that you military power is twice than mine and you move square by square because you know what happened on first turn ,
i think you still have nightmares about that lol.
Lord Luka
09-04-2014, 20:15
Would really like to know who the harcore hs'ers are.
yuonyuon
09-04-2014, 20:18
Would really like to know who the harcore hs'ers are.well i nominate invicta , he played his turn in less than one hour and he din nothing ......oh wait he post a wall of text about how loser i m like always .
Confusing the enemy is always a good strategy.
Yes..lets pretend that :yes:
why did you think i moved all elite units to Tabriz??
Who knows.. ~;)
Not to mention that you military power is twice than mine and you move square by square because you know what happened on first turn ,
i think you still have nightmares about that lol.
Half of my military power has always been in the west..it seems I fought against the odds the whole time ~:)
Lol..you're still in denial?
By taking down my 2 armies you condemned yourself to lose Alamut..your only -full developed- fortress.
Now once I got what I wanted, I'm simply settling..
But can you explain those sentences of yours?
no master tactician lose two stacks in one turn , not even a noob.
i beat him very badly this turn .and the situation is getting worse for him if i continue
lets face it if i continue playing you lose .
When that is gonna happen exactly? Lol,...
Lord Luka : who has been the one complaining all along asking for more time? The answer is pretty simple. The spy's thing is a pretty good example (they know exactly where your spies are or aren't, which requires lot of time spent, and they know exactly which settlements of theirs your spies can reach or not). But also you see them asking continuously for more time when their turns become more complex making each time new excuses. I was the one facing them in this HS, although I believe you faced another one on TWC.
yuonyuon
09-04-2014, 20:35
the war is not over ! since now you took just one region for me . and you did n t harm any of my armies with the exception of those freezed when i first come in.
in the meanwhile i restored my military strength and i m ready to fight :))))))))))))
also i defeated you 6k and 4 generals. lol
By taking down my 2 armies you condemned yourself to lose Alamut..your only -full developed- fortress.
Now once I got what I wanted, I'm simply settling..
stop saying this crap, because my army cant reach Alamut from Tabriz that's a fact , when you had 2.5 stacks in between , just try to be more realistic on what you say . the deal was awesome i lose 1200 men in exchange of 5k and 4 generals , who can refuse that, when there was not much to do.:)))
Alamut could not be defended with those units i had at the first turn , the fact that you needed 2 stacks to take a city half garrisoned say much about your tactical skills.
i see you trying very hard to not repeat that mistake but you will do soon.
the war is not over ! since now you took just one region for me . and you did n t harm any of my armies with the exception of those freezed when i first come in.
Am I the only one around here that thinks the war is lost after the defender loses his initial forces?
I mean this is not RTS game that can provide you with a second chance if you got good micro!
Am I the only one around here that thinks the war is lost after the defender loses his initial forces?
I mean this is not RTS game that can provide you with a second chance if you got good micro!
Actually , imo you're wrong.
Particularly when we talk about big factions (15-20 regions at least), the one who's under attack usually has at least 3-4 chances to revert th situation. This is obviously on a 1vs1. If you get attacked simultaneously by every side by overwhelming forces obviously you might be done within 2 turns (if the aggressors make no mistakes, otherwise...).
Also geography of the map helps a lot.
Factions with most of the settlements being on the coast, are easier to take down.
Factions with mostly inner settlements (like Hungary, but even more Kwarezm or Russians) are very hard to take down and impossible to take down with a blitz.
Emproment
09-04-2014, 21:08
So... when did the crusade get called?
So... when did the crusade get called?
1095... but that like ended a while back. Sorry, but the Pope dosn't look interested in taking over Mosul.
So... when did the crusade get called?
Apparently the Pope called it. Vipman : can you confirm that the crusade was already called when you opened your last turn? Lord Luka : can you pls confirm you didn't call the crusade on your last turn and that when you played it, there was no crusade going on?
So... when did the crusade get called?
Apparently the Pope called it (I was told from Gaius)
Vipman : can you confirm that the crusade was already called when you opened your last turn?
Lord Luka : can you pls confirm you didn't call the crusade on your last turn and that when you played it, there was no crusade going on?
Lord Luka
09-04-2014, 21:33
I did not call the crusade.I was told there was a crusade by Norway and already ask the admins to confirm if it was called by the pope.Although if it is true that the crusade was called then i believe Moors broke this rule:
Once a Crusade/Jihad target is named, you cannot:
-Assasinate the Pope (valid for any faction) until the crusade ends.
That too would be for the admins to confirm.
i believe Moors broke this rule:
Once a Crusade/Jihad target is named, you cannot:
-Assasinate the Pope (valid for any faction) until the crusade ends.
That too would be for the admins to confirm.
How do you deduct that he assassinated the Pope?
His assassin is France , by looking at his ss from the last turn.
Core-i7-inside
09-04-2014, 21:46
I did not call the crusade.I was told there was a crusade by Norway and already ask the admins to confirm if it was called by the pope.Although if it is true that the crusade was called then i believe Moors broke this rule:
Once a Crusade/Jihad target is named, you cannot:
-Assasinate the Pope (valid for any faction) until the crusade ends.
That too would be for the admins to confirm.
Its fine, because the crusade is called on the Moors. XD
Lord Luka
09-04-2014, 21:50
He killed the pope.As far as i know if you kill the pope the crusade ends (i believe that is the purpose of this rule) but i am not sure if it ends too if the pope is killed by the muslim faction.
yuonyuon
09-04-2014, 21:55
How do you deduct that he assassinated the Pope?
His assassin is France , by looking at his ss from the last turn.for your knowledge the pope can be killed with armies too.
He killed the pope.As far as i know if you kill the pope the crusade ends (i believe that is the purpose of this rule) but i am not sure if it ends too if the pope is killed by the muslim faction.
Killing is not the same as assassinating. Assassinating is a specific method of killing (and within the game you do that with assassins only).
I forbid in the rules that assassinating the Pope once the Crusade is called, because as you said the crusade is cancelled if the Pope dies.
But that's only true if the crusade is called against a Catholic faction (and as long as the Catholic faction is not at war with the Papal State)
So it won't work if the crusade is called against a muslim faction: the crusade is still on.
There's no way for a muslim faction to cancel a crusade once it's called against it.
But in any case, the rule says assassinate, not killing. Are 2 different things .
Lord Luka
09-04-2014, 22:00
Oh.I didn't know that xD.Ok then everything seems to be fine.Sorry for the troubles.
Core-i7-inside
09-04-2014, 22:03
Killing is not the same as assassinating. Assassinating is a specific method of killing (and within the game you do that with assassins only).
I forbid in the rules that assassinating the Pope once the Crusade is called, because as you said the crusade is cancelled if the Pope dies.
But that's only true if the crusade is called against a Catholic faction (and as long as the Catholic faction is not at war with the Papal State)
So it won't work if the crusade is called against a muslim faction: the crusade is still on.
There's no way for a muslim faction to cancel a crusade once it's called against it.
But in any case, the rule says assassinate, not killing. Are 2 different things .
So now France, an enemy of the Moors who was suppose to be excommunicated, can join the Crusade. Well done Moors. XD
Emproment
09-05-2014, 00:35
France Jiub is up.
Pics are here: http://www.filedropper.com/pics_14
puddingkip
09-05-2014, 00:49
Im curious, how much time do you guys spend on your turns?
30-40 minutes
So now France, an enemy of the Moors who was suppose to be excommunicated, can join the Crusade. Well done Moors. XD
How was I supposed to know a crusade was upcoming? Anyway I killed the pope twice already, thought it would give my generals some nice free experience. Sometimes you get bad luck in life.
And I don't think France will join the crusade. I would be very disappointed if they did
Nightbringer
09-05-2014, 02:06
just to eliminate any suspicion, I checked and it was indeed called by the pope
As to the penalty over the fort rule breaking. I can see why it might look insufficient, but it is based on the fact that a previous breaking of this same rule had resulted in the situation in this first place. Any attempt to estimate what the situation would have been otherwise and to impose a penalty based on the difference between these two possibilities would be pure conjecture.
yuonyuon
09-05-2014, 08:13
Most players won't tell you really how much time they spend on their turns. But you can easily spot the hard-core hs'eaters (the ones who spend 8-9 hours on their turn). Those players usually don't leave their settlements at risk of being infiltrated and conquered with spies. So if you have armies nearby, and they don't have spies in it (which you can see by pointing any spy to that settlement and see if the odds are over 30%) it's because they literally scouted the whole map -inch by inch-around them. I saw that happening more than once. Mostly they spend time by scouting every inch of the map , reloading and simulating battle results. One player who was previously playing here, admitted he spent 5 hours simulating a battle to be sure I couldn't beat his armies. Currently we have one hard-core player, plus the one who was previously playing and another one external to this HS.
Personally I spend normally (when free from everything else) less than an hour depending on the size of my faction. Most of the time is spend in replaying, because I try to avoid reloading and intermediate saves (they give malus, or prevent form getting certain bonuses). If I don't make mistakes with the mouse, less than 40 minutes is what it takes me. besides i don t believe this at all. i ts merely impossible to play a turn in half an hour, only if you want to do a awful job . you have 30 spies ,10 stacks ,economy, and you just figure out with a plan too. there are SS to edit and not to mention about the bonuses are you talking about .you can achieve that with simple save (not quicksave) if all that is true then next time i relay want to see how you play your turn in less than an hour and post the save on the forum .
that s not going to happen
-also you said there was some real hs-ers ?? who they are .maybe we have something to learn by them.
Gaius Octavius Caesar
09-05-2014, 09:14
Norway was excommunicated too. Now we can join the crusade:yes:
Core-i7-inside
09-05-2014, 09:40
3How was I supposed to know a crusade was upcoming? Anyway I killed the pope twice already, thought it would give my generals some nice free experience. Sometimes you get bad luck in life.
And I don't think France will join the crusade. I would be very disappointed if they did
There is a notification when Crusade being called on your settlement, isn't it? :yes:
Norway was excommunicated too. Now we can join the crusade:yes:
please do. :laugh4:
Vipman : can you confirm that the crusade was already called when you opened your last turn?
Whoops yes I saw it but nothing seemed strange, I probably just wanted to finish the turn, as the save was uploaded at 1AM when my time should end already, well I really hope this will stop happening by next month...
Crusades are herecy.* The heads of christian faith are in unison on this front. Repent and join the one true god, and recognize his son Jesus Christ as your personal saviour
Unless said crusade is used to reclaim lost settlements in the east, which are then granted the kievan rus for safekeeping.
puddingkip
09-05-2014, 10:39
There is a notification when Crusade being called on your settlement, isn't it? :yes:
please do. :laugh4:
Well yes but at my turn the crusade wasn't called yet so I killed the Pope
Mithridate
09-05-2014, 13:02
Will you be able to continue hotseating?
Mostly wondering for restless crowns on .org and the hotseat where you play Novgorod and I am genoa ( Dr Mac is Denmark )Not for a while. It seems I will be busy until mid-Autumn. I hope to come back and continue in the future Just a little heads up for ya all. Myth Nightbringer
Lord Luka
09-05-2014, 20:33
TO up!
Nightbringer
09-05-2014, 23:36
Can I get a quick comprehensive list of who is playing which faction at this point? The posts at the start of the hotseat are inaccurate now I believe, and HRE is not even listed as being played there. sonnet
Venice http://www.mediafire.com/download/8as14n8lywnivzd/RC_Venice_14.rar
Can I get a quick comprehensive list of who is playing which faction at this point? The posts at the start of the hotseat are inaccurate now I believe, and HRE is not even listed as being played there. sonnet
Nightbringer
TO Vipman
Venice Core-i7-inside
Norway Gaius Octavius Caesar
Kiev Makrell
Moors puddingkip
Kwarezm yuonyuon)
Turks sonnet)
Fatimids Tonno
Castille Auran
England /HRE Emproment)
France Jiub
Hungary Lord Luka
HRE and England are played by the same player ,Emproment. Everybody on turn 5 agreed that letting Emproment inherit HRE was a better solution than having the faction turned AI.
Core-i7-inside
09-06-2014, 13:11
By the request of the Venetian pope, the Venetian Doge joined the holy crusade! Rome shall be reclaim!
Norway's up, sorry for delaying : https://www.mediafire.com/?4aa6378qmec533a
Gaius Octavius Caesar
09-06-2014, 14:30
King Henrik I moves the capital in Sweden.
Kiev up!
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwjOIK7GgpuRTnZCUC1FTFRKY28/edit
It appears that the Moors and HRE have broken the rule where they are not allowed to move defeated armies. As such, the armies of Tasufin Ibn Wadah and Prince Theodrich can't move for 2 turns.
Read the rules guys.
It appears that the Moors and HRE have broken the rule where they are not allowed to move defeated armies. As such, the armies of Tasufin Ibn Wadah and Prince Theodrich can't move for 2 turns.
Read the rules guys.
Welcome back Myth.
In other news. How do you stand with free time. Would you join mine HS?
Using whatever free time I have, I just want to say something about some rumors that have been going around...
Spain and France will not and did not sign a peace treaty without England. Spain and the Moors joined the war on behalf of England, so any
peace deal will include England in the negotiating table.
Good luck and see you all when I come back :)
Moors subbed on last minute request. Puddingkip said he's ill. yuonyuon is up
http://www.filedropper.com/rckwarezm14
yuonyuon
09-07-2014, 18:03
All friends of my enemies are my enemies of course.
So war declared to KIEV!!!! i will expand where i want not where you want .prepare to fight !!!
yuonyuon
09-07-2014, 19:29
is that Techies tactics?That was valid only for kiev. you are safe don t worry. even if you are friend of my enemy.lol
edit: 2 views..hmmm that s wired
An army southern of Kermanshah has been defeated, some forts captures as also Ray is now under our rule.
I'll post the ss after dinner
Tonno you're up!
http://www.filedropper.com/rcegypt14
yuonyuon
09-07-2014, 19:38
An army southern of Kermanshah has been defeated, some forts captures as also Ray is now under our rule.
I'll post the ss after dinner
Tonno you're up!
http://www.filedropper.com/rcegypt14post the screens. that is impossible
That was valid only for kiev. you are safe don t worry. even if you are friend of my enemy.lol
I'm refering to suicide bomber tactics... aka- if I lose, then I got to bomb everyone around me tactics.
This diplo deals... o man, my head hurts.
While we were getting bored waiting for teh Shah Yuonyuon to kick our asses and defeat us, we decided to take the initiative and start to kick his ass first..lol
SS
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/own3_zpsbb21f7fe.png (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/own3_zpsbb21f7fe.png.html)
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/own0_zps309811b9.png (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/own0_zps309811b9.png.html)
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/own1_zps50d9b7dc.png (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/own1_zps50d9b7dc.png.html)
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/own2_zps5bb6d8c4.png (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/own2_zps5bb6d8c4.png.html)
Tonno: Kwarezm is running out of money, and sacking settlements is way is trying to make up for some stupid mistake he made.
yuonyuon
09-07-2014, 20:21
where are the odes screens . ?? that was what i wanted to see.
this is not fair at all.
clear victory 6 archers 5 star general against a full stack:
edit: what do you think i m stupid.
last time with the same army composition i beat you two stacks.
where are the odes screens . ?? that was what i wanted to see.
Odds screen
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/m4_zps95e8e6f2.png (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/m4_zps95e8e6f2.png.html)
this is not fair at all.
Blah blah blah blah.... pls don't start crying now :rolleyes:
yuonyuon
09-07-2014, 20:32
Odds screen
https://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q550/byebytoad/m4_zps95e8e6f2.png (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/byebytoad/media/m4_zps95e8e6f2.png.html)
Blah blah blah blah.... pls don't start crying now :rolleyes:Actually i will ask an admin to replay the battle 5 times , i bet he can t get clear victory.
Actually i will ask an admin to replay the battle 5 times , i bet he can t get clear victory.
And here we go..actually I got the victory without even reloading..
If required I can send a video to the admin showing the victory.
Pls stop being a bad loser and launching more and more accusations it's not my fault if you're not good at this game :bow:
IMPORTANT
Since I didn't get any straight guidlines for how to play this turn, I did what I consider the fairest.
Peace was made with France, but the last message from Auran was out of the set course. So: I played turn how I would have played it, moved my armies in the position that they would be if me and France are at war (Since Rennes was gifted there where no battle pics for that city but the army is where it would be if there was battle for Rennes).
If I got screwed cuz ppl didn't do their diplo good enough, again, the situation will reset and the France will be given back it's 4k next turn.
EDIT: Never seen Invicta in such a provocative manner... it's sooooo sweet.
yuonyuon
09-07-2014, 20:43
And here we go..actually I got the victory without even reloading..
If required I can send a video to the admin showing the victory.
Pls stop being a bad loser and launching more and more accusations it's not my fault if you're not good at this game :bow:insulting me is not making you a good player ether. rather an arrogant. the problem is that i dont have any good generals so looks like my armies are useless without them,
i Already told you what a good player is .
EDIT: Never seen Invicta in such a provocative manner... it's sooooo sweet.of course it is since without your money he couldn't achieve nothing.
of course it is since without your money he couldn't achieve nothing.
But but but, you like challenge.
It's simple, next time when I say to you, make peace don't be all like... "I'll show who's the masta player" in the HS thread, and stuff like that. Both you and Mac got outplayed in both warfare and more importantly- DIPLOMACY.
insulting me is not making you a good player ether. rather an arrogant. the problem is that i dont have any good generals so looks like my armies are useless without them,
i Already told you what a good player is .
Arrogant?...really?
This is what you wrote after your first turn.. (so witrh full knowledge of your situation):
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?147569-Restless-crowns-forging-empires-Late-era-Skip-a-few&p=2053611253&viewfull=1#post2053611253
...
lets face it if i continue playing you lose .
I can see someone being arrogant here, and that's not me.
You said yourself you had all the right cards to win the war, when you joined and defeated 2 armies of mine.
Now you're losing and suddenly you start crying..??
You made several major strategy mistakes. Achieving victory by playing with Kwarezm is so easy that I shouldn't even mention that. And you said that yourself in pm.
But either way, I offered you a generous peace when you joined. You decided, as in your right, to keep fighting and for that you can only blame yourself now. You were sure to win the war. Even if now you reconsidered, then it still was a huge mistake of your to not accept peace, which by doing that, you'd have been in a much better position now (surely with more regions than you started with). In those 4 turns you had several choices to make, each one of them could have resulted in a much better position for your faction. Blame yourself if you made the wrong ones.
Sun Tzu:
will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight
And btw: the money I got from Egypt (5k x 5 turns) were not for free (Baghdad was the price of it). And more importantly they didn't help me with the war. They were needed to not stop the development of my settlements
yuonyuon
09-07-2014, 21:09
But but but, you like challenge.
It's simple, next time when I say to you, make peace don't be all like... "I'll show who's the masta player" in the HS thread, and stuff like that. Both you and Mac got outplayed in both warfare and more importantly- DIPLOMACY.what do you know about diplomacy ,you are just a puppet faction. first of all you were playing with HRE .then you moved without asking for a new player for egypt.
immediately after that you start giving money to the Turks in order to get powerful .and now is giving me this arrogance like he is a master of what. every time lessons and accusations.
i get it Khwaresmians are almost done they have only 5 FM and none with more than 3 starts. no +mov point no dread no NF nothing.
i was expecting some u turn actions here but like there is gang hungary-kiev-turk-egypt so i m here alone.
the challenge is gone
what do you know about diplomacy ,you are just a puppet faction. first of all you were playing with HRE .then you moved without asking for a new player for egypt.
Emproment was the first one (as I thought England was the closest to death) I asked to take over Egypt. Just to be clear. He refused.
I asked Tonno, only after he mentioned that his faction might die soon (I didn't even think his faction was so close to death by the ss that were posted in the thread).
immediately after that you start giving money to the Turks in order to get powerful .and now is giving me this arrogance like he is a master of what. every time lessons and accusations.
I see only one person making accusations. I got money from Egypt in exchange for Baghdad. They didn;t come for free. Same way Hungary is not attacking me: I gave him settlements as a gift.
I have not been greedy and prepared myself so that I wouldn't be ganged on all side. This is my merit, as unlike you I was fully aware of the many weaknesses the Turks had and I intervened in time, establishing good relations with the factions available to that, and punishing the ones who were plotting against me, and for which there was nothing I could do but fight them.
i get it Khwaresmians are almost done they have only 5 FM and none with more than 3 starts. no +mov point no dread no NF nothing.
i was expecting some u turn actions here but like there is gang hungary-kiev-turk-egypt so i m here alone.
Why do you start crying for help now...?
This is what you wrote in a pm:
Lets face it, without Egypt Turks can't do nothing against Kwarezm
Now you cry saying that only by gang-banging me by every side you could win against me?
lol..
what do you know about diplomacy ,you are just a puppet faction. first of all you were playing with HRE .then you moved without asking for a new player for egypt.
immediately after that you start giving money to the Turks in order to get powerful .and now is giving me this arrogance like he is a master of what. every time lessons and accusations.
i get it Khwaresmians are almost done they have only 5 FM and none with more than 3 starts. no +mov point no dread no NF nothing.
i was expecting some u turn actions here but like there is gang hungary-kiev-turk-egypt so i m here alone.
the challenge is gone
It's true, I don't know anything, but for sure I will not look into your advice.
TO hell with it, I don't have nerves for a kid posts like this.
yuonyuon
09-07-2014, 21:29
Lets face it, without Egypt Turks can't do nothing against Kwarezm
well that was my best army you defeated this turn .i guess i toke over the Persians to late.
i m not a bad loser but what i hate the most that you played "shady work" with Egypt,Kiev,Hungary .thing that i was accused i did with Durex .
if can i get Castile back i will be happy to continue otherwise in less than 5 turns kwaresmians are done. i can t beat 2 FM with 8-9 stars NF in any way with my crappy generals. that a fact.
Emproment
09-07-2014, 21:38
So what is going on with France?
Jiub has not been seen for weeks and things need discussing.
yuonyuon
09-07-2014, 21:51
i m willing to take a faction far away from gang-ers. if there is any free spot.
i m willing to take a faction far away from gang-ers. if there is any free spot.
Ask Auran if he wants to give up Castille . In alternative if Jiub doesn't come back we might give you France.
In any case as we might need 2 players, even if Yuonyuon move to one of the 2 ,we might still need another player. So pls if anyone know someone to join, and reliable to play, pls invite him.
yuonyuon
09-07-2014, 22:15
Ask Auran if he wants to give up Castille . In alternative if Jiub doesn't come back we might give you France.
In any case as we might need 2 players, even if Yuonyuon move to one of the 2 ,we might still need another player. So pls if anyone know someone to join, and reliable to play, pls invite him.so look what i propose since my chances with Persia are drooping every turn:
i will take Castile and durex France.
also i might continue with Persia
so look what i propose since my chances with Persia are drooping every turn:
i will take Castile and durex France.
also i might continue with Persia
Lets see if anyone disagree (if anyone disagree pls give a reason) with you 2 taking over the 2 factions. Or if you have any request (i.e:like having the players respecting their alliances for at least 5 turns or such)
yuonyuon: did you ask Dur3x (before making this proposal)?
yuonyuon
09-07-2014, 22:23
Lets see if anyone disagree (if anyone disagree pls give a reason) with you 2 taking over the 2 factions. Or if you have any request (i.e:like having the players respecting their alliances for at least 5 turns or such)
yuonyuon: did you ask Dur3x (before making this proposal)?yes he wanted to take moors but was taken by puddingkip.
edit: he want s to join but first let s see what factions are available. i see there is allot of subbing of France castle, hre ,moors.
yes he wanted to take moors but was taken by puddingkip.
edit: he want s to join but first let s see what factions are available. i see there is allot of subbing of France castle, hre ,moors.
Moors have a player.
HRE has been inherited by England.
Only available factions might be Castille and France.
yuonyuon
09-07-2014, 22:33
Moors have a player.
HRE has been inherited by England.
Only available factions might be Castille and France.
A player who fail to play twice in a row without explanation might be substituted. i will be happy to take Castile back
edit :well there is an explanation but ....
Hello,
I would like to take France with cleared save, please.
How about we wait for responses from Jiub and Auran.
Emproment
09-07-2014, 22:42
Jiub has not responded to any of my messages for weeks now.
EDIT: It looks like he hasn't even visited this website in weeks either.
Gaius Octavius Caesar
09-08-2014, 08:10
Jiub will come back. He isnt the type of person that will dissapear just like that.
If someone gets France, he will use the current pass, you wont get a cleared save because the kwarezm situation may happen again.
yuonyuon
09-08-2014, 08:30
Jiub will come back. He isnt the type of person that will dissapear just like that.
If someone gets France, he will use the current pass, you wont get a cleared save because the kwarezm situation may happen again.Always in game situations dictate the faction distribution.always.
then good luck subbing 4 factions for 3 times in a row and after that call this a interactive HS .
France destroyed England but now is losing after he left .Castile again is in bad shape .all because of subbing.some player took advantage of that.
if my offer is valid. i hope to get a message , and i will still play with kwarezmians even i find out i m alone so no problems in the east side of the map.
Jiub will come back. He isnt the type of person that will dissapear just like that.
If someone gets France, he will use the current pass, you wont get a cleared save because the kwarezm situation may happen again.
If anyone is willing to wait, I'm willing to wait too.
The only issue is that some factions (like England ) is willing to make diplomacy.
Is Lord Luka willing to make diplomacy on behalf of France? After all if Jiub named LL as subber, it means he trusted his judgement.
If LL is willing to make diplomacy until Jiub gets back I see no problem with it.
yuonyuon you can take Castille.
and possibly stop talking about things you don't know. France was already losing ground while Jiub was still playing. Subbing has nothing to do with it. Actually LL moved quite well. And since you proved already you're not much competent, maybe you can keep a bit more silent and learn form others.
yuonyuon
09-08-2014, 09:25
If anyone is willing to wait, I'm willing to wait too.
The only issue is that some factions (like England ) is willing to make diplomacy.
Is Lord Luka willing to make diplomacy on behalf of France? After all if Jiub named LL as subber, it means he trusted his judgement.
If LL is willing to make diplomacy until Jiub gets back I see no problem with it.
yuonyuon you can take Castille.
and possibly stop talking about things you don't know. France was already losing ground while Jiub was still playing. Subbing has nothing to do with it. Actually LL moved quite well. And since you proved already you're not much competent, maybe you can keep a bit more silent and learn form others.ok i had enough !
bye bye!i don t have time for this crap !!
WAR! The drty Khwazarems will be destroyed without question, there is nowhere for you to hide, and this will lead to your downfall.
ok i had enough !
bye bye!i don t have time for this crap !!
Pls let us know if you intend to take Castille or no.
Or if you intend to keep fighting with Kwarezm or no.
If you're running away with the tail between your legs, just say so, we will understand.
It's not like the first time we met some sore loser who runs away when the game gets tough.
When the going gets tough, the tough get going
ok i had enough !
bye bye!i don t have time for this crap !!
Castile in a bad situation... lllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
France losing cuz of subbing... loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Just leave then.
yuonyuon
09-08-2014, 09:44
WAR! The drty Khwazarems will be destroyed without question, there is nowhere for you to hide, and this will lead to your downfall.well i already quit this HS .i m sick of invicta insults and lies. this is not a fine HS for me even i m losing.you can turn faction Ai .
every time my turn come i get tones of PM and insults from tonno and invicta to play faster .like who knows what will happen if i dont play faster than 4 hours.so do not mention that invicta have HALF of the passwords of this HS .(i can tell you if you want) and now he tells me shut up because i m not a competed t player . what a scam of HS this has become .
i joined for fun not to take insults from an idiot . in matter a fact tonno is another one.
good luck guys with this
yuonyuon
09-08-2014, 09:48
Pls let us know if you intend to take Castille or no.
Or if you intend to keep fighting with Kwarezm or no.
If you're running away with the tail between your legs, just say so, we will understand.
It's not like the first time we met some sore loser who runs away when the game gets tough.
When the going gets tough, the tough get goingi intend to never join a HS were you are , you are not a cool player at all.
don t tell me about bad losing you are the master of it.
every time my turn come i get tones of PM and insults from tonno and invicta to play faster
I DARE YOU, TAKE THE SCREENS OF YOUR INBOX. We will see messages from invicta, but not from me. First lie.
Then take the screens of messages that invicta send. I know we will not find insults in them. Another lie.
GO HOME DESLEY number 2.
well i already quit this HS .i m sick of invicta insults and lies. this is not a fine HS for me even i m losing.you can turn faction Ai .
You're quitting because either we gave you Castille and France, or you won't play.
As you're seeing players to not agree with Give France away you're making your way out.
About the insults and lies ..it's since before the HS started that you insulted and lied all along. All in the thread.
Just 3 turns ago you wrote..
So that s it. Sonnet kick me out because i beat him very badly this turn .and the situation is getting worse for him if i continue as result he played Core save and ignore mine since he was the one that asked me to play as Kwarezmians.
And now you completely changed your story. And you wonder why nobody believe you any more...
yuonyuon
09-08-2014, 09:55
I DARE YOU, TAKE THE SCREENS OF YOUR INBOX. We will see messages from invicta, but not from me. First lie.
Then take the screens of messages that invicta send. I know we will not find insults in them. Another lie.
GO HOME DESLEY number 2.well this community is :daisy:. the rules are just for show. if it happens to be at war with invicta then you will get your inbox full. and wall of text and crap every time your turn comes. so i don t like that .
i m not a liar and i m not a cheater so i don t have to bother with player that run from TWC because they can t win fair .
first lose , than dr mac but i never lisen now my turn come so BYE!!
yuonyuon
09-08-2014, 10:28
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?147569-Restless-crowns-forging-empires-Late-era-Skip-a-few&p=2053603809&viewfull=1#post2053603809
Otherwise look for another player for the Turks. I guess that was what the bad loser wanted from the begin.
Jiub and all the players after him. If you post your save rather than getting back from my save I have to assume you want to continue without me. In that case you can find another player for the Turks and manage the HS in my stead
Just look at this pathetic post and no one broke the rules then, you where the only one, after seeing the situation you are already on a run.
who is the bad loser now???
you just lost one stack and you start treating that you close the HS and go home.
after that .you put tonno your"dog" near you:
You are the subber of DUREX. If I took Egypt I can DEMAND to remove you as my subber. No. I would switch HRE for Egypt as requested by the maker of the HS, and asked that everyone state their minds on the matter.
No. You don't have RIGHTS on the matter of EGYPT.
Later destroyed Persia by cheating:
About Baghdad:
I checked the rules now, and it seems I have broken them.
and now :
If you're running away with the tail between your legs, just say so, we will understand.
It's not like the first time we met some sore loser who runs away when the game gets tough.
also:
I have not been greedy and prepared myself so that I wouldn't be ganged on all side. This is my merit
You really earn this man .you are master tactician i admit now .
i lost the war so i go home .
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?147569-Restless-crowns-forging-empires-Late-era-Skip-a-few&p=2053603809&viewfull=1#post2053603809
Just look at this pathetic post and no one broke the rules then, you where the only one, after seeing the situation you are already on a run.
who is the bad loser now???
Me on the run? Lol. You were the ones on the run.Dur3x was so scared that he didn't want to continue. You were so scared that you threatened to attack Moors as in retaliation. By running away back then ,you just admitted that if I play my turns, you lose. And since the all 3 of you were aware you won't beat me on the map, you kept attacking me and insulting me to push me to leave (everybody can read the thread from the begin..). I was indeed leaving, but when I realized how shameful you were acting I decided to give you a lesson, on the map. It's all in the thread anyway, it's not like you can deny facts.
Later destroyed Persia by cheating:
I broke a rule and didn't have problem to admit that. A rule nobody was aware of, including you (for your admission).
I copied and pasted rules form the latest HS I started last year and that rule was a new experimental one (you won't find those in any of my other HS and actually in any HS on TWC).
Cheating would imply that I knew about it, but if that was true, I would have played very differently since the begin (like for instance putting armies next to cities for defence rather than building a fort to protect it). And it's not something I can hide..(like you could hide your extra assassins), so I don't see how or why could I have done that on purpose.
But you obviously keep ignoring how I was penalized in Baghdad. And obviously you ignore what the admin said (like you always do when it's something not convenient to you..):
As to the penalty over the fort rule breaking. I can see why it might look insufficient, but it is based on the fact that a previous breaking of this same rule had resulted in the situation in this first place. Any attempt to estimate what the situation would have been otherwise and to impose a penalty based on the difference between these two possibilities would be pure conjecture.
Dr Mac in the previous turn broke teh fort rule, which completely affected my strategy and forced my armies to go around, rather than attacking on Baghdad form both sides.
He got back then his punishment (if he didn't break teh rule, I still would take Baghdad fair and square. And if he accepted the punsihment again I'd still take Baghdad fair and square):
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?147569-Restless-crowns-forging-empires-Late-era-Skip-a-few&p=2053606825&viewfull=1#post2053606825
New save, use this (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10634) Admin decision: due to not complying with the rule about fort numbers, the K-Shah cannot move any armies stationed in the offending province next turn. This includes the armies in Baghdad. Furthermore, on the following turn all the forts must be abandoned and one more turn must pass (so all of them disappear) before a new one can be built.
.
But he threatened to leave if the admin didn't convert the punishment to a financial one (5k). And that's why I got 5k too.
On the other hand you and Dr Mac were breaking the assassin's rule (with up to 5 assassins). And obviously you were not in good faith, otherwise you would have warned me about that from the beginning that you had 4 extra assassins and that you'd suicide them asap. Instead you kept playing and kept silent about it, and only after I asked you to suicide the extra assassins (after you played already 3 turns) the things was going to be solved. So the only one being cheating.it's not me..look in the mirror instead.
yuonyuon
09-08-2014, 11:02
after this i think you and tonno don t have more than 16 years old . really.?? what another pathetic excuse.
me having 5 assassins? i never use one. and admin can look at my save an see there are only 2 in the Mongolian steppe that i never moved since or used , if i m accused for that then you are waist of time for me.
do you want me to post the picture? gezzz ,
IM OUT!!!!OUT!! BYE BYE !!!! TONNO BYE .
Core-i7-inside
09-08-2014, 13:19
Jiub will be back soon. No one can take France.
and ... come on, what is this drama. Losing is losing yu XD
Me too, is losing, but not complaining. :P
Mithridate
09-08-2014, 13:22
An end to the drama of this mess I hope :inquisitive:
Jiub will come back. He isnt the type of person that will dissapear just like that.I too doubt Jiub would simply take off, he has always been a stalwart player with a will to improve the community, I do not think recent speed bumps would do worse than make him take a little extra time in frustration at most.
He is on vacation and was supposed to be back just over a week ago, but said he would be gone an extra week or so. Hopefully he will be about any day now and not be off put by... events.
Ebs is gone from hotseating too, RL have apparently taken up too much of his time from what I hear so he had to take a break.
Hello, this is the drama police speaking. Any further drama posts will be deleted and the offending party will be infracted.
Just to say that England didn't post his save yet because he's negotiating peace with France. As France is being subbed the parties are being given extra time for settling
puddingkip : contact Emproment and LL in case you need to do that (if you're interested in the peace deal, if you didn't do already)
Emproment
09-09-2014, 14:48
French-English-HRE-Hungary diplomacy has settled down and is coming to a consensus.
I will post the turn within the next 6 hours since I am in class currently.
Emproment
09-09-2014, 20:42
France is up.
A large trading of lands will commence once France accepts the deal. York was taken, overwhelming odds, but I forgot the picture. Let me know if someone wants to see it.
HRE is trading France 6 settlements for 6 settlements.
Lord Luka
09-10-2014, 00:22
TO up!
This was a busy turn.After many years in war France has manged to come to an agreement with it's opponents.
France has made peace and a 10 turn NAP with England and HRE, and with that agreement made peace with Spain has become valid too together with the 15 turn NAP.
Hungary has made peace and a 10 turn NAP with England and HRE as well.
Emproment
09-10-2014, 03:32
Could we get a map update? Myth Nightbringer.
Thanks!
Venice http://www.mediafire.com/download/moyionoonisy092/RC_Venice_15.rar
Core-i7-inside
09-10-2014, 15:06
Norway : https://www.mediafire.com/?biynnm43y3z90yd
Gaius Octavius Caesar
09-10-2014, 16:43
Kiev
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwjOIK7GgpuRUHoyeXdqelpieWs/edit
Vipman Makrell puddingkip Tonno Gaius Octavius Caesar Emproment Lord Luka
Core-i7-inside is the new player for Kwarezm. (he'll keep playing Venice until the end the 2 factions are not connected anyway) dur3x is the new player for Castille
The revised time schedule:
B]The new schedule[/B]
day 1:(Tuesday and Friday) [00:00-13:00] Venice core7-inside [08:00-21:00, time in Bangkok]
[13:00-16:30] Norway @Gaius Octavianus [15:00-19:00,time in Bucharest]
[16:30-20:00] Kiev Makrell [17:30-21:00, Time in Oslo ]
[20:00-00:00] Moors puddingkip (prev Ebs from turn 1-10) [21:00-01:00, +1 GMT Time]
[00:00-13:00] Kwarezm Core-i7-inside (prev-LooseCannon1 until turn 5, from turn 5-11 Dr Mac,yuonyuon-turn 12-14 ) [08:00-21:00, time in Bangkok]
day 2:(Wednesday & Saturday)[13:00-16:00] Turks sonnet
[16:00-19:00] Fatmid Tonno (Dur3x ) [11:00-16:00, time in Zagreb]]
[19:00-23:00] Castille dur3x (prev-Yuonyuon turn 01-05, Auran turn 06-14 ) [21:00-01:00, time in Bucharest]
[23:00-10:00] England Emproment
day 3:(Thursday and Sunday)
[10:00-15:30] France Jiub [12:00-18:00,time in Bucharest]
[16:00-19:30] Hungary Lord Luka [17:00-20:30,time in
[19:30-24:00] TO Vipman [21:30-01:00,time in Bucharest]
puddingkip
09-11-2014, 11:26
moors up
http://www.filedropper.com/rckhwarezm15
Khwazzies up.
14363 trained my assasin a bit (he gained 2 subterfurge, woooo)
Also killed the pope again, forgot to take the picture (it's a really easy way of getting rid of good priets). But mainly I've been pulling troops away from the French border towards Roma
You can't assassinate the pope if the crusade is still active... if it is?
Oh, you mean you killed him in battle. Ok then.
Got to brag over several weeks of work I have done here:
Take that HRE. :D
14367
14368
Lord Luka
09-11-2014, 21:25
It doesn't matter for the Crusade if the pope is killed by a muslim faction.
Core-i7-inside
09-12-2014, 07:12
The Kwarezmian Empire is now named "Kingdom of Iran"
Alliance has been made between us and the Mongols. To celebrate our alliance and kingdom's new name, the tax rate has been lowered all across the kingdom.
Turks up, save sent via pm.
FYI : Venice is Venice, and Iran is Iran. I've 2 separated personalities playing 2 factions. :P
Iran will not do anything for Venice's sake, and vice versa. Feel free to crush them down. XD
Gaius Octavius Caesar
09-12-2014, 07:46
The Kwarezmian Empire is now named "Kingdom of Iran"
Alliance has been made between us and the Mongols. To celebrate our alliance and kingdom's new name, the tax rate has been lowered all across the kingdom.
Turks up, save sent via pm.
FYI : Venice is Venice, and Iran is Iran. I've 2 separated personalities playing 2 factions. :P
Iran will not do anything for Venice's sake, and vice versa. Feel free to crush them down. XD
I would ve chosen Shahdom of Persia or Persian Empire.:bow:
While the war with Persia sees an end, new conflicts are behind the corner.
The Egyptian Caliph and the Mongol Khan both declared war on us.
Peace offers have been sent to settle the divergences which are affecting the wealth of our realm!
http://www.filedropper.com/showdownload.php/rcegypt15
Core-i7-inside
09-12-2014, 11:31
I would ve chosen Shahdom of Persia or Persian Empire.:bow:
Oh, those sound way better. I'll rethink about it. XD
Do I subb or Durex will play?
Tonno dur3x is supposed to play it.
Emproment
09-12-2014, 22:46
France is up Jiub; Lord Luka.
Venice has been caught breaking the crusading movement rule, where an army must advance each turn towards it's target. But I doubt anyone even cares, so Venice will go unpunished. However, since HRE lost troops and time because of this illegal activities, I believe some compensation for HRE would be fair in this situation.
Core-i7-inside
09-13-2014, 05:45
The heck!
It's not like I wanted to sit my ass there. But in order to move forward, sometime you need to stay a while. I won't move my king to the death and make the holy crusade fail.
And you could just simply ignore the army. It was not going to harm you in anyway. Attacking it was obviously your choice. No compensation should be made.
Emproment
09-13-2014, 06:33
I don't like reloading and you were at the end of my trail.
So the crusaders army moved 0 tiles from last turn? correct?
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