View Full Version : SS 6.4 - Restless crowns: forging empires [Late era -Skip a few]
Core-i7-inside
09-13-2014, 10:02
yes
Lord Luka
09-13-2014, 14:01
TO!
Venice has been caught breaking the crusading movement rule, where an army must advance each turn towards it's target.
i dont think that is a rule, i cant find it in the op atleast. Only that you cant attack armies out of the way towards the target. Otherwise you are free to choose i think..
Emproment
09-13-2014, 17:48
Everyone was just arguing about this issue a few pages back when a Moors stack didn't move in France. But it's not like Venice hasn't moved 1 or 2 turns ago.
They declared a crusade at the very beginning of the crusade and just sat down where they first created a crusade, not moving 1 square. They haven't moved in many turns. Obviously they are taking advantage of the free upkeep the crusade provides. This is against the rules as a crusade exploitation.
Everyone was just arguing about this issue a few pages back when a Moors stack didn't move in France. But it's not like Venice hasn't moved 1 or 2 turns ago.
They declared a crusade at the very beginning of the crusade and just sat down where they first created a crusade, not moving 1 square. They haven't moved in many turns. Obviously they are taking advantage of the free upkeep the crusade provides. This is against the rules as a crusade exploitation.
Collect evidence and present it to admins. I can't do anything about it.
Core-i7-inside
09-13-2014, 18:34
Come on! You know it's not like you can simply walk the crusade to the target, knock the door, and then the crusade is finished. I'm waiting for the best opportunity to make my move or the crusade would be failed.
Staying the crusade doesn't put me at any advantage. It doesn't benefit me at all. All the units would desert to the ground if I stay longer. Is it like I want all my units to desert? I didn't want to stay there but I HAD to do.(I should have moved backward, but it might be against the rules, so that's why I stay) There was no better choice. I'm not doing anything that is against the rules. I'm doing all best I can do to success the holy crusade.
Oh the very beginning of the crusade you say. It was like 2-3 turns ago.
Emproment
09-13-2014, 18:37
This is a pointless argument.
Like going 55 when the speed limit is 50. No one cares.
Venice http://www.mediafire.com/download/cjuyqnblxdqn7bn/RC_Venice_16.rar
Core-i7-inside
09-13-2014, 19:11
All thanks to the free upkeep of the crusade units. This turn our prince has managed to get enough money to ferry himself and his men from Crete island to Greece.
Norway http://www.mediafire.com/download/2oz26b4c42v4s30/RC_Norway_16.sav
Nightbringer
09-13-2014, 21:28
Map Update
Gaius Octavius Caesar
09-14-2014, 08:06
Kiev up
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwjOIK7GgpuRQUpwQW4zRHY3M28/edit
puddingkip
09-14-2014, 15:47
Iran up
http://www.filedropper.com/rciran16
Core-i7-inside
09-14-2014, 16:58
Turks : https://www.mediafire.com/?rz986r45h4uquvd
War seems to end. We are repairing our damaged buildings. War doesn't benefit anyone, it is nothing but real life nightmare.
Iran has 2 assassins(which is over limit) but I'm using 1 of them.(I accidentally recruited 1 last turn. I'm using the new one because the old one is like 78)
Core-i7-inside
09-14-2014, 17:35
Oh my goodness, I just noticed that I broke the rule "No taking money or regions from the AI. No exceptions." on the turn 59. I(Iran) took 6k golds from Mongol for peace. (I thought taking money was allowed but settlements /facepalm)
http://www.filedropper.com/rcegypt16
Egypt's up!
Core-i7-inside : can you just give the money back to the Mongols next turn? (like offering a gift). This should solve the issue.
Core-i7-inside
09-14-2014, 19:29
http://www.filedropper.com/rcegypt16
Egypt's up!
Core-i7-inside : can you just give the money back to the Mongols next turn? (like offering a gift). This should solve the issue.
Oh good idea. I'll give them 8k next turn.(If I have enough money)(2k is a reasonable fine, I think)
Nightbringer
09-14-2014, 19:56
Seems like a fair and efficient resolution to me
After several "threatening" messages the great Arab Empire decided to stop with the blockade of the Adriatic sea.
Next.
Inviting all to share their thoughts on three separate game ideas:
Vikingetid (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142226-TLK-3-06-Vikingetid)
War of Civilizations (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?146620-War-of-Civilizations)
Wrath of the Khan 3 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?148181-Wrath-of-the-Khan-3)
Emproment
09-15-2014, 20:17
I apologize for the massive delay everyone.
I tried to stop him. I tried to warn him with letters that probably never made it.
Dealing with Norway was unfavorable; Elberhard was displeased with the resulting deal and he is taking his sour attitude out on France.
He seems to have gone rebel.
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Lord Luka
09-15-2014, 21:09
Wrong save.
Emproment
09-15-2014, 21:47
Try it now.
Lord Luka
09-16-2014, 10:38
TO up!
Pics and story will come in the afternoon when i come home.I am in a hurry right now.
Venice http://www.mediafire.com/download/85jg1prck5u02ax/RC_Venice_17.rar
Core-i7-inside
09-16-2014, 15:44
Hungarian crusade has taken Rome. We hope the Vatican city will soon be returned to the church.
Norway : https://www.mediafire.com/?ivwdpp4dejt72p7
Gaius Octavius Caesar
09-16-2014, 18:15
Kiev
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwjOIK7GgpuRejBMZGRNUUhjcTg/edit
Lord Luka
09-16-2014, 18:29
When ceasefire was made between HRE, France and Hungary it was made with the hopes of bringing lasting peace into central Europe so that commerce would start again and all would benefit from it. However the actions of the Emperor have proved that HRE has no desire to make a lasting peace. When the peace was signed the Emperor told us he wants free passage through French and Hungarian lands to Hamburg. Passage was given and the Emperor assured us that he will avoid the cities.
However through later actions Emperor’s intentions were truly shown. First the Emperor attacked Venetian crusading army despite the fact that it was no threat to him. Then another HRE army, which was supposed to be retreating from Hamburg to meet with the Emperor, has attacked and taken Frankfurt. Also a third HRE army was found near Rome where it settled a camp outside Rome’s walls.
In the meantime the Emperor remained in Austria near Salzburg and instead of advancing towards Hamburg he rather decided to strengthen his position there by setting another HRE army next to him and thus pretty much violating every part of the agreement made.
Emperors intentions were made clear: to prevent a Crusade from ever succeeding, even at the cost of war, and doing as much damage to France and Hungary with the remaining forces.
The French and Hungarian King have realised that there is no telling what the mad Emperor will do next so it can be said that the Emperor has succeeded in his attempt to start a war.
First a French expedition was send to take HRE’s island of Corsica and prevent any possible attacks from there into French lands in Italy. Then all the forces that were near Frankfurt have been gathered to besiege and trap the HRE army inside those walls.
In the meantime the Hungarian army on a holy quest to regain the capitol of Christianity – Rome, has landed in Italy and met with the army of Hungarian heir that was waiting. When scouts reported that Rome was being reinforced with the army of HRE a bold plan was made. In the cover of the night the 2 armies approached Rome from the side that was furthest from HRE army and stormed the gates of Rome. With the help of siege equipment the gates quickly fell and both armies stormed into the city, killing the Muslim infidels that were still trying to suit up for a fight. As soon as the defenders surrendered the armies marched through the city to the place where HRE camp was set. The HRE soldiers – unaware of what has happened – were caught in their sleep. Soldiers that were awaken by the screams of their dying countrymen quickly fled the field together with their cowardly general – HRE heir. Rome has been liberated from the enemies of Christianity but many good people have paid for it with their lives.
Now that Rome itself was secured it was time to also secure the surroundings. Another Moorish army was settled in the hills near Rome and had to be dealt with, since they presented an immediate threat. After a day of patching wounds, removing the corpses and regenerating their strength the armies moved out to meet the Moorish army. They found it in a fortification on one of the hills. The Hungarian generals stormed the fort from two sides. Moorish army, without any proper general, was disorganised and made little resistance. Soon the fort fell too and thus Roman province has been secured.
In the southern part of Italy near Naples the Hungarian King also joined the expedition against Moors with the burning desire to free Naples and remove the Moorish filth from Italy. He realised that would be a difficult task to take on by himself so he send an emmisary to Bari to request for reinforcements. In order to bring reinforcements to Naples, the fort that was guarding the passage to the city had to be taken first. With the help of spies inside the fort the gates were opened for our units to quickly take it. After fort was secured the army continued it’s march towards the city with the cavalry send forward to scout the surrounding of the city.
In the northern part of Naples the King’s army was crossing the hills towards the city when on their surprise they encountered the army of HRE heir that was still retreating from the defeat at Rome. The King took the initiative and quickly routed the army again before they had the time to organize. After that easy victory the troops were inspired and eager to defeat the Moors too so they continued to march over the night to meet up with the reinforcements that were already near Naples. Just as they were closing to the city in the morning they found the Moorish army that left the safety of the city walls in order to catch the skirmish cavalry forces. Such a simple trick lured out an entire Moorish army. The King saw the opportunity and so did his soldiers. They charged into the army. Moorish soldiers that were expecting an easy victory against the skirmish units were taken by surprise by the Hungarian army. In the heat of the battle the infantry part of the army from Bari finally reached the city too and flanked the Moorish army. The formation broke and Moorish soldiers retreated to the city. Many were killed during the retreat. The victory bolstered the morale of the King’s soldiers but the march through the night and the fight in the morning wore them out too much so the King decided that it would be better to rest before storming the city itself. Moorish soldiers that managed to retreat to the city now await the next move of our King with fear in their hearts.
The HRE armies in Austrian hills had to be dealt with too to ensure the safety of Hungarian people. Such an important task could only be trusted to the most experienced generals and no man was more suited for the job than Vata the Conqueror. In the cover of the night he approached the Emperor’s camp first and took out his soldiers in their sleep. Before the neighbouring camp realised what was happening they were stormed too. Both armies have been defeated with minimal loses. What was left of those armies retreated into the heart of Germany where French are waiting for them.
But major victories were not only achieved on land but on sea as well. The Moorish navy patrolling the sea near Ragusa was taken out by Hungarian navy. After that was done the navy sailed towards Italy to reinforce their brothers at sea in the fight against the HRE navy. A glorious victory has been achieved there too.
With such glorious victories all over Hungarian kingdom men have celebrated and named this year as the Year of Wonders.
PS. The defeated armies cannot be moved next turn, including the Moorish army in Naples.
puddingkip
09-17-2014, 16:06
The cowardly Hungarians have been beaten out of the Campania region, killing their king and slaying many infidels
http://www.filedropper.com/rcisir17 the save
http://imgur.com/a/QOcw6 pics
Core-i7-inside
09-17-2014, 16:46
The Sultan of Iran is upset about that happened to the King of Hungary, his old friend. Thing like this happens when war happens. The Sultan would be pleased if the rest of the world could stop killing each other.
8k golds has been given to the Mongols for the sake of our alliance.
Turks : https://www.mediafire.com/?6alvy07gl3alkh4
Arta has been captured from the venetians
http://www.filedropper.com/rcfatmid17
https://i62.tinypic.com/2nkt9jc.png
Core-i7-inside
09-17-2014, 19:24
Arta has been captured from the venetians
http://www.filedropper.com/rcfatmid17
https://i62.tinypic.com/2nkt9jc.png
This fellow infidel is gonna pay for this ....
Emproment
09-18-2014, 14:25
From HRE: "Good bye cruel world! Oooh what a world... what a world... I'm melting.."
The end.
Lord Luka
09-18-2014, 21:12
HRE is no more.Today has been proven that even the strongest can fall.
Lord Luka
09-18-2014, 22:13
Sorry for that. I am a bit off today.
Venice http://www.mediafire.com/download/7vb6icybjghso5j/RC_Venice_18.rar
Core-i7-inside
09-19-2014, 07:14
Norway https://www.mediafire.com/?sbhfy51hakzb1lx
unless the save is done before 16:00 (gmt+1)
then ill play
Gaius Octavius Caesar
09-19-2014, 09:42
Im currently at work, ill do the turn in the afternoon 16-17 PM, GMT +3.
EDIt: moors up
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwjOIK7GgpuRLUxwazJMVVE1ZE0/edit
puddingkip
09-19-2014, 20:34
Iran up, Hungary has lost Bari and Rome to me
http://www.filedropper.com/showdownload.php/rciran18 the save
http://imgur.com/a/pSgse for the pics
Emproment
09-19-2014, 20:56
I'm sure someone will request the spy percentage pictures. (A picture of your spy outside of the settlement showing his chance of success to infiltrate)
Core-i7-inside
09-19-2014, 22:15
Turks
https://www.mediafire.com/?8kbaphb9rcctbt9
puddingkip
09-19-2014, 22:34
Hey guys, it turns out I broke a rule with the spies. I posted the pic of them getting in last turn, but this turn their odds weren't 60% anymore, therefore I played my turn again and here's a fixed save (where Bari is still Hungarian, but Rome is Moorish)
http://www.filedropper.com/rciran18fixed
http://imgur.com/a/HjIM0 and the new pics (without Bari)
???
So I can't get in with spies earlier? It must be on the turn of taking the cities?
puddingkip
09-19-2014, 23:03
???
So I can't get in with spies earlier? It must be on the turn of taking the cities?
No you can move in earlier, they just still need to have 60% entry chance. Didn't know it either but ah well
???
So I can't get in with spies earlier? It must be on the turn of taking the cities?
No Tonno, by the rules:
-If someone take a settlement in which you had spies (whether it was your or not) previously infiltrated, and you intend to conquer it, you still need to take out of the settlements the spies to prove you have the 60% of chances of infiltrating in the turn you're going to conquer it .
The reason is that, if for instance I know someone is gonna take my settlement, I could leave 2 spies in my settlement and after my enemy captures the settlement, I could recapture it with the spies I left in my settlement and my enemy won't have any possibility to defend himself against such strategy or even know if I had spies in there.
Another reason, is that you might infiltrate spies not just one turn earlier but even 3,4 5 or more turns earlier.
To check if you had the chances would require lot of work for the admins to check as also confusions.
And in general this system makes predictable for players to defend against spies so that they're not overpowered in opening the gates.
Core-i7-inside
09-20-2014, 05:06
Turks https://www.mediafire.com/?u15f1hbnxxys0x2
Tonno Egypt!
http://www.filedropper.com/rcegypt18
Oh ok then... I allready thought I would have to re-infest Moorish cities with spies.
I don't understand how he can't notice I am preparing an invasion.
Core-i7-inside
09-20-2014, 15:21
Oh ok then... I allready thought I would have to re-infest Moorish cities with spies.
I don't understand how he can't notice I am preparing an invasion.
Doge of Venice finds this interesting. :yes:
I asked few hours ago for the password to be changed. Thanks !
I asked few hours ago for the password to be changed. Thanks !
dur3x play the turn pls, the password can be changed on someone else's turn
Emproment
09-20-2014, 19:55
Lord Luka France is next.
Lord Luka
09-21-2014, 12:04
TO up!
After the death of former Great King of Hungary the ruling class decided that a year of peace will be dedicated in honour of the Great King, a year where no offensives would be launched so that all Hungarians could pay their homage to thr fallen king – a year of peace, but not mourning. For there was nothing to mourn. The old King had lived a warrior life. He defeated many enemies of the Hungarian people in his life and under his rule his Kingdom expanded and thrived. No men wanted to be under any other general's command as it was almost certain that under King's command victories will be achieved even against the most experienced enemy. And in times of peace the King's rule was strict but fair. The King has lived a long life and he also lived to see his son and heir become a great general and a worthy successor to the throne. The old King achieved everything a man could ask for and in the end he also died as he lived. He will forever be remembered in the history of Hungary as one of the greatest leaders that ever lived.
After the year of peace a new King has been crowned – King Nehemias. He is a young King but he too knew that only the most worthy of men can rule such a Kindom so he adopted and chose the most worthy man in the Kingdom as his heir – Vata the Conqueror. Some may dispute his decision but the King now knows – Kings are not born, their are made in the fires of war. Only there can one's true personality be seen, when his life is on the edge, only then can his skills truly shine.
As a proof that he is a worthy successor Vata took his army and lead them against one of the most powerfull armies of our enemies – the Moors. Defeating such professional and experienced army, lead by a Moorish heir, who was rummored to be a living saint with a vision of Prophecy that was given to him by the Almithy himself, was no small task. Despite that the news quickly reached home that our heir was victorious and his army only suffered minimal loses.
The few who doubted the King's decision to make this man as his heir were now proven otherwise too.
Yeepeee I just finished playing my turn :/
Is it possible to do what you need to do on the next save? Here it is anyway
No problem.
New save for Venice, PWs fixed: here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10659)
Myth so I have read the announcement that this forum will switch from vB at the end of september/october, do you know anything like when will the site go down and for how long?
Core-i7-inside
09-21-2014, 15:16
Norway https://www.mediafire.com/?rakbhjpai31kejj
Gaius Octavius Caesar
09-21-2014, 16:09
Prosperous times in Scandinavia after the long war with HRE.
Kiev
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwjOIK7GgpuRWDdEOWtvc01VZ1k/edit
Myth so I have read the announcement that this forum will switch from vB at the end of september/october, do you know anything like when will the site go down and for how long?
Yes, we are moving to a better platform, it's been in the works for some time now. Our admins will strive to minimize downtime, it should be between 24 to 48 hours.
Subbed Moors as per request (received this morning). Core-i7-inside :Kwarezm are up!
http://www.filedropper.com/rckwarezm19
Lord Luka : I killed one of your diplomats near Pisa. Chances were 90%, if needed I'll provide the ss
Gaius Octavius Caesar
09-23-2014, 10:25
Subbed Moors as per request (received this morning). Core-i7-inside :Kwarezm are up!
http://www.filedropper.com/rckwarezm19
Lord Luka : I killed one of your diplomats near Pisa. Chances were 90%, if needed I'll provide the ss
We hope the Caliph accepted trade rights exchange with our kingdom.
Eeem... Caliph title is in Ciro right now!
Core-i7-inside
09-23-2014, 11:55
Turks
https://www.mediafire.com/?3u4rbl93j789d66
None of you are correct, the leaders of christendom agree. Kiev is the land where the vows are kept and the men are good and holy.
The legitimate Caliph is up! Tonno
http://www.filedropper.com/rcegypt19
War declared on France !!! King of Leon decided to help Moors in this war. Paris and Clermont were conquered !!! Pics later !
Emproment
Gaius Octavius Caesar
09-25-2014, 13:25
War declared on France !!! King of Leon decided to help Moors in this war. Paris and Clermont were conquered !!! Pics later !
Emproment
If im not mistaken the moors are at war with Hungary.
Isnt Moors at war with Hungary actually?
Yes, but they are in war with France too. If you did not know, the Moors are my allies.
Lord Luka
09-25-2014, 18:32
Guys i will be away for tomorrow and Saturday so i would appreciate if i could get my save today so that i can play it.
dur3x I don't know if you are acting dumb or if you really don't know but France and Moors have reached peace terms quite some time ago and there has been no aggression from either side since then. Peace was also made official last turn so your excuse for a war is about as stupid as it gets.
Guys i will be away for tomorrow and Saturday so i would appreciate if i could get my save today so that i can play it.
dur3x I don't know if you are acting dumb or if you really don't know but France and Moors have reached peace terms quite some time ago and there has been no aggression from either side since then. Peace was also made official last turn so your excuse for a war is about as stupid as it gets.
I saw on diplomacy that Moors and France are at war, none informed me about this...
Lord Luka
Lord Luka
09-25-2014, 19:30
Actually i lied.France and Moors made official peace 2 turns ago so if you would check diplomacy in the last 2 turns you would know that. Moors also don't have any real army in France anymore so it should be obvious that ceasefire has been reached.Apparently i know more about your ally than you do.
Actually i lied.France and Moors made official peace 2 turns ago so if you would check diplomacy in the last 2 turns you would know that. Moors also don't have any real army in France anymore so it should be obvious that ceasefire has been reached.Apparently i know more about your ally than you do.
Blah, don't worry, forget this, my bad, but remember what I said about visiting Paris....I didn't lied...lol
dur3x and Emproment as I wrote in the pm's to which none of you replied days ago, you need to name an official subber for your factions.
We all comply with that, please comply as everyone else did: choose an official subber and let me know so that I know who to ask if subbing is required.
Emproment
09-25-2014, 23:46
I didn't realize your memory was so bad Sonnet, because you have been my subber for many turns now.
Lord Luka France is up.
Lord Luka
09-26-2014, 07:07
I will play my turn when i come back today in the evening.
I didn't realize your memory was so bad Sonnet, because you have been my subber for many turns now.
Emproment
You requested a change of pswd. I don't have your pswd. So I can't sub you if needed.
Pls share the pswd with the player you wish to be subbed by in case it's needed.
Same goes for dur3x and pls let me know your choices.
Emproment
You requested a change of pswd. I don't have your pswd. So I can't sub you if needed.
Pls share the pswd with the player you wish to be subbed by in case it's needed.
Same goes for dur3x and pls let me know your choices.
Yes, I'm agree with it, but now let's see if Emproment is agree.
PS: Emproment, would you like to be my official subber ? <3
Gaius Octavius Caesar
09-26-2014, 14:41
Hopefully my turn will be up tonight or i will be needing subbing. I will be away for 3 days.
Core-i7-inside
09-26-2014, 18:35
I hope so.
Lord Luka
09-27-2014, 00:15
TO!
Emproment
09-27-2014, 22:42
dur3x, that would be great. We can sub each other.
Core-i7-inside
09-28-2014, 04:49
Kiev https://www.mediafire.com/?vnqb1d7s62qkeaj
puddingkip
09-28-2014, 20:53
ISIR up
http://www.filedropper.com/rcisir20
http://steamcommunity.com/id/puddingkip/screenshots (my screenies, couldn't be fucked to edit them so check mah armies)
Core-i7-inside
09-29-2014, 09:43
Turks https://www.mediafire.com/?iid65hb93c8vui5 sonnet
The Sultan Sonnet achieved his dream to bring peace to his realm!
Tonno
http://www.filedropper.com/rcegypt20
... I am dead next turn. :/
... I am dead next turn. :/
How so? Who is killing you?
Why Egypt attacked Moors ?
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How so? Who is killing you?
Moors will have a good counter attack, made one major mistake and few, mostly considering navy, small ones.
Why Egypt attacked Moors ?
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Since Castile hit France, this was a counter measures.
wow...this comes as a total surprise.
I don't get the thing about France: I mean Castille vs France is a 1 vs 1, and Hungary vs Moors was a 1 vs 1. Moreover Both France and Hungary are both stronger than their opponents (in the stats at least).
Curious that Egypt were making irony about the fact that he didn't intend to attack the Moors just 2 turns ago..
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?147569-Restless-crowns-forging-empires-Late-era-Skip-a-few&p=2053617901&viewfull=1#post2053617901
And last but not least..France and Egypt were enemies just until few turns ago..
A little note: I put spies when subbing the Moors last turn, to protect Palermo (just in case) against the Hungarian armies with huge mov.points.. too bad puddingkip removed those.. It would have protected Palermo at least this turn.
Since Castile hit France, this was a counter measures.
You could not find another reason ? This is so stupid...or you have something personal with me, lol ?
Core-i7-inside
09-29-2014, 17:34
You could not find another reason ? This is so stupid...or you have something personal with me, lol ?
maybe he wants oils ? XD
come on, I don't think there need to be any reasons to attacks someone. This is total war right?
You could not find another reason ? This is so stupid...or you have something personal with me, lol ?
You asked for a reson... there you have one :D
You asked for a reson... there you have one :D
Meh, you are so twisted mind....sonnet was surprised like I was too....to attack Moors because I attacked France..lol, also you was in war with France few turns ago...I'm hoping their allies close to your border will do something in this case...
I'm hoping their allies close to your border will do something in this case...
You mean, just for example, some one like Kwarzies? What if I appear concentrated on one side, while I am actually baiting?
puddingkip
09-30-2014, 10:36
Wow :daisy: I thought I had agreed with Egypt only a few turns ago that we would hold our own against infidel enemies and that these Egyptian forces were on their way back from the war with France. But the agreement was never official but I should have known better than to trust an Arab.
This is :daisy:, but this is total war. This does make my position much less secure. And the spy didn't leave Salerno, I suppose he died. Bad luck
I am sorry puddingkip... you proved your self a good player. But that's what the circumstances are, I can't let me to go all fuzzy inside.
Core-i7-inside
09-30-2014, 11:56
You mean, just for example, some one like Kwarzies? What if I appear concentrated on one side, while I am actually baiting?
If that's the case, I'd say your bait will never be bitten. XD
Ok dudes, now that I'm back at uni let me remind the time slot I chose was until 22:00 London time, 24:00 Bucharest, although it was extended in the OP, and I'd expect my save to be posted at least 20-30 minutes before my timeslot ends, in the worst case if the turn doesn't come and it's the middle of the week with a busy day following I may just go to sleep and possibly not be able to play it until my time slot comes again.
Emproment
10-01-2014, 01:06
France Lord Luka.
Lord Luka
10-01-2014, 19:46
TO!
TO!
Lol Luka, what have you done with the poor Moors ! :laugh4:
Venice http://www.mediafire.com/download/fdj4bsdty54kza0/RC_Venice_21.rar
Core-i7-inside
10-01-2014, 21:54
Norway : https://www.mediafire.com/?9991c4rt0nvxx11
Makrell Lord Luka Gaius Octavius Caesar Vipman Tonno puddingkip Emproment Core-i7-inside dur3x
I received questions by pm, about the situation with France and Jiub and requests of looking for a replacement.
Problem is that Jiub played his last turn one month and a half ago, and Lord Luka played more turns for France than Jiub did himself.
So maybe it's time we start looking for a replacement as we didn't hear anything back from Jiub so far.
Gaius Octavius Caesar
10-02-2014, 07:32
Makrell Lord Luka Gaius Octavius Caesar Vipman Tonno puddingkip Emproment Core-i7-inside dur3x
I received questions by pm, about the situation with France and Jiub and requests of looking for a replacement.
Problem is that Jiub played his last turn one month and a half ago, and Lord Luka played more turns for France than Jiub did himself.
So maybe it's time we start looking for a replacement as we didn't hear anything back from Jiub so far.
I agree, Jiub had enough time to get back to us. Unfortunately, he didnt and someone should take over. I hope we can find a reliable player ( maybe yuon can take over :laugh4:).
Ill do my turn in the afternoon after work.
hunt hunt, aint good for noone if LL plays two factions for to long.
yuonyuon
10-02-2014, 12:05
I agree, Jiub had enough time to get back to us. Unfortunately, he didnt and someone should take over. I hope we can find a reliable player ( maybe yuon can take over :laugh4:).
Ill do my turn in the afternoon after work.So you want more complains??
Hey if i take France i will conquer all the map and nobody want that!you don t know what you asking .be careful
We all know that would not happen. (@conquering the map)
But what is more important, I will make him (invicta) an offer that he can't refuse. What should prevent him from allowing you to join. ;)
We all know that would not happen. (@conquering the map)
But what is more important, I will make him (invicta) an offer that he can't refuse. What should prevent him from allowing you to join. ;)
You have something personal with yuon ?
You have something personal with yuon ?
I have something personal with everyone. It is said, if you don't hate everyone, your mother, your father, even your sister and brother, you can't enter Kingdom of God. So I am being loyal to those words.
yuonyuon
10-02-2014, 12:25
You have something personal with yuon ?yea, he is afraid of me. he know if i take France i will take him down.
yea, he is afraid of me. he know if i take France i will take him down.
What are you waiting for ? Go and take France... :)
I have something personal with everyone. It is said, if you don't hate everyone, your mother, your father, even your sister and brother, you can't enter Kingdom of God. So I am being loyal to those words.
I think you have something personal with you too...
yuonyuon
10-02-2014, 12:46
I think you have something personal with you too...if someone teach me how to block all of incoming PM s for a shorten players. lol and posts :))))))))))))))))) .
if someone teach me how to block all of incoming PM s for a shorten players. lol and posts :))))))))))))))))) .
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/profile.php?do=ignorelist
this is how and im surpirised you didnt know it.
Core-i7-inside
10-02-2014, 13:13
I think we should contact Jiub first. Jiub I know is not a person who can just disappear from HS.
I think we should contact Jiub first. Jiub I know is not a person who can just disappear from HS.
I think is no need to contact him. We waited to much :)
yuonyuon
10-02-2014, 13:28
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/profile.php?do=ignorelist
this is how and im surpirised you didnt know it.Thanks man . lets see if i need it!
Core-i7-inside
10-02-2014, 14:01
Give him some more time, shall we? I've a feeling that he will be back. I've faith in him. :)
Give him some more time, shall we? I've a feeling that he will be back. I've faith in him. :)
Ha... you delusional believer.
Yuonyuon is not allowed to rejoin.
He was allowed already a second chance when he took over Kwarezm, as I believed he was genuine when in pvt he wrote that he would stop with his slandering campaign and focus solely on playing the game.
As soon as he joined he started again with new accusation (me being scared of him and for that wanted to kick him out, after I just let him rejoin, me not using his save and many others all proven to be false).
And in the end when he got beaten, he raged and left insulting to justify the fact that he was a sore loser running away with the tail between his legs, and once more calling the HS corrupt along with the admins of it.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?147569-Restless-crowns-forging-empires-Late-era-Skip-a-few&p=2053615626&viewfull=1#post2053615626
About the swashbuckling of him conquering the whole map..well he said the same when he took over Kwarezm, and we all saw how it ended in just 4 turns (I guess that must be a record..)
well i already quit this HS .i m sick of invicta insults and lies. this is not a fine HS for me even i m losing.you can turn faction Ai .
every time my turn come i get tones of PM and insults from tonno and invicta to play faster .like who knows what will happen if i dont play faster than 4 hours.so do not mention that invicta have HALF of the passwords of this HS .(i can tell you if you want) and now he tells me shut up because i m not a competed t player . what a scam of HS this has become .
i joined for fun not to take insults from an idiot . in matter a fact tonno is another one.
good luck guys with this
Unless he publicly apologizes (in particular to the ones he insulted) and promise to behave in a civil manner, he won't be allowed to re-join.
Something upon which I neither count or hope for, particularly seeing his last posts.
I'll look for a replacement, but obviously everyone is welcome into helping to find a replacement.
Possibly someone who has experience with HSing (not necessarily with SS) and the most common rules of this HS.
Gaius Octavius Caesar
10-02-2014, 14:38
Give him some more time, shall we? I've a feeling that he will be back. I've faith in him. :)
I said the exact same thing one month ago. Now, he must be replaced.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwjOIK7GgpuRWlRKUk03NTRuUU0/edit
yuonyuon
10-02-2014, 14:45
There is less chances that this HS become a cool one, since some people just insult other people. i receive 2 PM from some players to join and i don t fell like i will. i just saw the Turkish-Egypt-Hungary on east side and in the west there is no real Coalition . we could turn this in a Total war battle.
but ... i don t think i can keep my mouth shut when i will be attacked personal , so that's the main problem. on top of that i must put you and tonno on ignore list .
i already admit that i was defeated .i could n t defeat you with what i get from DR Mac.
i never see you sonnet apologize for your mistakes ever.
moors are up
and the east is such a big friggin place, them mongols will have nothing on me
As an admin I want to avoid drama. As well as a forum mod. yuonyuon officially quit the game with a bang. I believe his personal feelings will overtake and I will have to hand out more infractions. I'd rather avoid that. If you can't play nice, don't join the game.
yuonyuon
10-02-2014, 19:45
As an admin I want to avoid drama. As well as a forum mod. yuonyuon officially quit the game with a bang. I believe his personal feelings will overtake and I will have to hand out more infractions. I'd rather avoid that. If you can't play nice, don't join the game.In matter a fact i can play nice . prove are all my HS that i played on TWC. there was never a wall text or insult posted by me.
i rather not join despite the temptation is to big.i m 100 % there will be huge accusations .
And if i may join Tonno and Sonnet will be putted at ignore list from the start .To be honest i really din t like arguing for no reason , it consume allot of time and is crap. is not my thing. but if i m called "bad loser", "liar" on every post and you as admin did nothing.
then drama started . i don t know if im up of another round of wall of texts......
As if there are not sufficient arguments I want to remind the fact that yuonyuon said on TWC he doesn't have time to play hotseats anymore and he'll remain in just 2 and he doesn't care about the rest. Now he wants to (re)join in a fast HS and with a big faction too (more time needed to play).
Changing your mind so easily about whether you have time or not to play hotseats isn't right. You should do the right thing and not waste lots of hours playing in a hotseat that will certainly bring sooner or later drama instead of fun and better study if it's an important year for you or find something better to spend time on, there are lots of things to do and lots of other games or you could continue the hotseats you quit.
yuonyuon
10-02-2014, 21:48
As if there are not sufficient arguments I want to remind the fact that yuonyuon said on TWC he doesn't have time to play hotseats anymore and he'll remain in just 2 and he doesn't care about the rest. Now he wants to (re)join in a fast HS and with a big faction too (more time needed to play).
Changing your mind so easily about whether you have time or not to play hotseats isn't right. You should do the right thing and not waste lots of hours playing in a hotseat that will certainly bring sooner or later drama instead of fun and better study if it's an important year for you or find something better to spend time on, there are lots of things to do and lots of other games or you could continue the hotseats you quit.i don t want to play with players like ebs, macrath or jiub that left without leaving sign and destroy a dozen of HS after.they also carry the admin passwords on some HS . that is ridiculous.
i announce people so they know , and if i had time i play until there will be a replacement.
that is no valid point since in this HS i played all my turns on time and less than 2 hours .
if there is no rational person than is fine .what can i do , just wish you all luck and have fun.
Cause as i can see that was an argument against me .
i left this HS cause i was defeated , and i asked for Castile of France and Sonnet told me to keep my mouth shut because i m not a "competent player " . i still don t understand what that suppose to mean .
Vipman if you have something to say about me , just say it , and be fair.
Lord Luka
10-03-2014, 12:46
I agree that France needs to get a new player but i would like to play France for another turn or 2 if you guys don't mind. I have been working on a plan for a long time now and i would like to complete it before giving France to someone else.I will try to get a new player too.
yuonyuon
10-03-2014, 15:31
I agree that France needs to get a new player but i would like to play France for another turn or 2 if you guys don't mind. I have been working on a plan for a long time now and i would like to complete it before giving France to someone else.I will try to get a new player too.
yuonyuon cannot take France because he will attack Hungary and Egypt
in the minwile LL has to do "something" with France. lol
Don t worry guy s i will not intend to join this HS .so stop bringing argument against me.
Gaius Octavius Caesar
10-03-2014, 17:17
yuonyuon cannot take France because he will attack Hungary and Egypt
in the minwile LL has to do "something" with France. lol
Don t worry guy s i will not intend to join this HS .so stop bringing argument against me.
Yes, you would ally with Castille and conquer the whole map together.
yuonyuon
10-03-2014, 17:43
Yes, you would ally with Castille and conquer the whole map together.yeap that' true same as Turks-Egypt did. i thought that was not obvious . damn it.
I bet if there was some noob here to take over France ,he will receive the save strait away.but with m,e is not working :))) i remember when i did my first turn with Persia Sonnet was very scared after that he realize that i m not a threat. Same here , me being France is a big deal . Norway,TO, Hungary and Egypt will be put under the Black list strait away. but who want that?
Ok guys that was joke . have fun.
Gaius Octavius Caesar
10-03-2014, 18:14
yeap that' true same as Turks-Egypt did. i thought that was not obvious . damn it.
I bet if there was some noob here to take over France ,he will receive the save strait away.but with m,e is not working :))) i remember when i did my first turn with Persia Sonnet was very scared after that he realize that i m not a threat. Same here , me being France is a big deal . Norway,TO, Hungary and Egypt will be put under the Black list strait away. but who want that?
Ok guys that was joke . have fun.
You fail to understand that here its about your behaviour not your gaming skills.
drama police action in progress
Lets get this moving fellows and stop worrying about ancient stuff. this hs moves on and everything changes. i was in faction balance this turn and saw that HRE was near dead, and the rest is ever growing, with few factions really going down below.
Lets get this moving fellows and stop worrying about ancient stuff. this hs moves on and everything changes. i was in faction balance this turn and saw that HRE was near dead, and the rest is ever growing, with few factions really going down below. Makrell
Hre should be dead.
Sometimes the stats refers to older turns rather than the current one. I guess it's a bug although I have no idea what triggers it.
yes, question, if i wanted to could i screenshot and post the faction balance screens? would be cool to see around.
yuonyuon
10-03-2014, 19:57
*drama police line, do not cross*
So is anyone that vote for me in? i just checking , i m not insulting at all . i just trying to conversation , i m unarmed .jeeezz.
yes, question, if i wanted to could i screenshot and post the faction balance screens? would be cool to see around.
Makrell
Sure we could add those to the first post along with the map updates.
puddingkip
10-04-2014, 12:31
http://www.filedropper.com/rcisir21
ISIR up. Not a single screenshot because most of my front line armies couldn't move due to the defeated army rule so they couldn't attack either. Sigh. And even after 10 tries I couldn't win Tripoli so I'm kinda screwed
Core-i7-inside
10-04-2014, 18:48
Turk's up : https://www.mediafire.com/?wrnpre8lzx7j23d
Egypt!
http://www.filedropper.com/rcegypt21
yuonyuon
10-04-2014, 22:00
drama repellant
Nightbringer
10-04-2014, 22:16
yuon, tonno, vip, just drop it and move on.
yuonyuon
10-04-2014, 22:33
no drama to see here folks, move along
Emproment
10-05-2014, 03:00
No one wants to play with Yuonyuon. :(
This is one quiet thread until Yuon comes around lol.
Ahh... why don't we let him play? Those who don't like him can just hit the ignore button. Haha, Total War is no fun in Total Silence.
With the power cut to the Moors and the larger part African sheikdom of the Caliphate restored from the unruly ruler to the true successor to Muhammad, peace is forced to the Moors?
Hello, the drama police has raided the boards recently and has intercepted a large shipment of drama. Deputy Chief Myth reports that over one person and perhaps one K9 units has been involved in the operation.
Seriously: a simple vote as to whether yunyon gets to play or not would have been enough. There is an overwhelming NO so let's move on.
Map update, turn 65:
http://oi59.tinypic.com/2qldaix.jpg
yuonyuon
10-05-2014, 20:00
Good job Mith . really you did exactly what you suppose to do . but was better if you did that from beginning .
Good Luck to anyone , i also want to apologies to those who i might insulted unfair , but not for those that deserves .
{Back to real life , i m leaving all HS community . Mith don t delete this message bye}
Mithridate
10-06-2014, 00:41
Good job Mith . really you did exactly what you suppose to do . but was better if you did that from beginning .
Good Luck to anyone , i also want to apologies to those who i might insulted unfair , but not for those that deserves .
{Back to real life , i m leaving all HS community . Mith don t delete this message bye}I think you have us confused, nice to see action taken after number x final warning - I wish you all a pleasant hotseat.
Edit: Belated happy birthday Myth!
Kick this durex and his friend yuon out of this HS forever.
durex activity Today 20:01, and right now active on TWC. Last time before this was last night way after I posted the save.
I can't handle this two any more and bs they make up.
Unfortunately when certain kind of players see the factions losing (or at least they think it is..) or the outlook of the war they started looks grim, they start finding excuse to not finish what they started. Childish as it seems, many can't stand defeat or get scared as soon as they smell it.
We can introduce financial penalties for player who are late (they can avoid that by either playing on time or make sure their subber sub them on time).
I think 1.5k for every 5 regions owned (so if you own 12 regions you pay 4.5k fine if you're late).
Unfortunately dur3x just chose his subber Emproment, and now asked me, one day and a half after he was late to be subbed by me.. I'm not gonna sub him, but guys help me find replacements and we'll solve the problem once and for all.
And also since there's a good likelihood that the 2 of them were ore than simply 2 good allies (otherwise certain coincidences can hardly be explained) it's all for the best.
Unfortunately when factions start losing or the outlook of the war they started looked grim, they start finding excuse to not finish what they started. Childish as it seems, many can't stand defeat or get scared as soon as they smell it.
We can introduce financial penalties for player who are late (they can avoid that by either playin on time or make sure their subber sub them on time).
I think 1.5k for every 5 regions owned (so if you own 12 regions you pay 4.5k fine if you're late).
Unfortunately dur3x just chose his subber Emproment, and now asked me, one day and a hal after he was late to be subbed by me.. I'm not gonna sub him, but guys help me find replacements and we'll solve the problem once and for all.
NO
we will not fine players who are late, that only encourages people to play later than when save is ready. like Dur3x that per invictas rules have time intil 23:00 wednesday(tomorrow) he can wait till then, he should play now, but as per the rules he doesnt have to.
NO
we will not fine players who are late, that only encourages people to play later than when save is ready. like Dur3x that per invictas rules have time intil 23:00 wednesday(tomorrow) he can wait till then, he should play now, but as per the rules he doesnt have to.
We switched actually. Like I mentioned you the days are not fixed, the time frame is instead.
So play in our time frame in the days in which hour turns are uploaded.
This was to facilitate players who are late, ironically as it seems, to avoid subbing as much as possible (with fixed days we couldn't have waited in any case, since one turns late means losing 3 days not just one, don't know if I'm clear, while with how we do things now we lose only one day and we can afford more easily to wait for players if those have important turns to play).
I think it was Vipman who suggested to skip the fixed days and just care for our time frame.
I am against penalty for late players as well, but this...
It's simple, he could have said that he will play by the record cuz intention is here, we see he asked a subb for his turn. He was online twice, not a single note. Irresponsibility in things like this, it's just brainless.
sonnet I got two replays from the messages I sent, both where nah to the invite.
i play my turns as fast as possible, but i cant play them on my timeframe each day. ( i normally play within 8 hours after tavix)
I think you have us confused, nice to see action taken after number x final warning - I wish you all a pleasant hotseat.
Edit: Belated happy birthday Myth!
Thanks! But moderating always seems easier from the back seat :rolleyes:
Mithridate
10-07-2014, 14:19
Thanks! But moderating always seems easier from the back seat :rolleyes:Absolutely true, moderation gets easier once you're consumed by darkness though :2thumbsup:
Core-i7-inside
10-07-2014, 17:22
I've been busy lately. From now on I'll be able to do my turn from 20:00 to 24:00(GMT+7:00) of everyday.
Gaius Octavius Caesar
10-07-2014, 19:40
Cant England sub this turn?
yuonyuon
10-07-2014, 20:19
no drama
Gaius Octavius Caesar
10-08-2014, 07:06
Drama police take action :yes:
Core-i7-inside
10-08-2014, 10:23
This was a fast HS, and it was. :<
So, now what? Is he going to do his turn?
do not feed the drama llama
puddingkip
10-08-2014, 10:48
Guus quit the :whip:ing drama please (learned my lesson, can't express myself here) if all this drama continues I'll leave this hot seat.
Cant England sub this turn?
Despite naming each other official subber, neither Dur3x or Emproment thought to share their respective pswd's.
This has been sorted though yesterday afternoon, and so now we have to wait that either Emproment or Dur3x decide to play.
Tonno pls ignore Yuonyuon, there's no point in replying, just put him in the ignore list like I did already a while ago and all the problems are solved
Emproment
10-08-2014, 14:49
Hey everyone. I understand we are all waiting on me.
Sorry about this, but later today I have an intro to quantum mechanics test, so this HS has been the last thing on my mind. Possibly later today I will be able to sub. Possibly won't get to it until tomorrow as I have classes until 5pm today.
Sorry again for the wait!
Btw, Sonnet has the password and he knows very well what he could do to help Spain. So if you get tired waiting on me, just get Sonnet to sub.
quantum mechanics test,
O you'll be hearing from me about his stuff... very nice!
Btw, Sonnet has the password and he knows very well what he could do to help Spain. So if you get tired waiting on me, just get Sonnet to sub.
Emproment there's no need for help. It all depends on your will to play the save.
Had you used the time you lost in those days in writing pms and this message you would have already posted the save.
The same goes for dur3x ,who has time to play for other HS (which are not fast) but not this one.
Like I wrote many times, everybody is supposed to spend less than an hour to play the save. If you spend more, then there's something very wrong you must be doing.
And I didn't ask the pswd, and I found quite curious that Dur3x thought to send the pswd to me and not to the player he choose as subber and ask you first.
Oh..and of course I'm not gonna sub neither you or dur3x, since when I spent my time to sub others, I got quite some unpolite pm's, particularly from you, rather than be thanked.
yuonyuon
10-08-2014, 18:06
bleahhhhh!! kids these days!
Emproment
10-08-2014, 22:12
I did send you nasty PMs.
But only because I loathe the fact that someone other than the admins has the admin password and views each save that has been posted.
Quite honestly it has taken everything in my power to not quit this HS already, so I hope everyone will forgive me when I don't make this HS my top priority. (Btw, I had to be subbed in all of my HS because of this test. I am not biased against this HS)
I did send you nasty PMs.
But only because I loathe the fact that someone other than the admins has the admin password and views each save that has been posted.
Quite honestly it has taken everything in my power to not quit this HS already, so I hope everyone will forgive me when I don't make this HS my top priority. (Btw, I had to be subbed in all of my HS because of this test. I am not biased against this HS)
Emproment :I don't have the admin pswd. (and obviously I don't se any save but mines, unless I have to sub and the player gave me his pswd).
Another fantasy accusation which I don't even know how you could come up with. :rolleyes:
Unbelievable..
Myth & Nightbringer : pls confirm that you never gave me the admin's pswd, that I never ( or even tried) bribed you and that you didn't enact any sort of conspiracy to prevent Emproment from winning the game
Emproment would that be enough, or do you have more of your smart conclusions you'd like to share with us..?
(Btw, I had to be subbed in all of my HS because of this test. I am not biased against this HS)
You just wasted more time to write your smart post, as also posted a save for another HS in TWC, and didn't play this one..
Only I and Nightbringer know the admin password. At some point sonnet knew the faction passwords to a few factions, but those have since changed.
Next post I have to edit for drama or for replying/feeding drama is getting a 2 day ban. Just an FYI.
Emproment
10-09-2014, 21:56
I hope everyone can see Sonnet's guilty conscious. I never said he had it in the first place.
Sonnet wins everyone; I quit.
yuonyuon
10-10-2014, 01:09
I hope everyone can see Sonnet's guilty conscious. I never said he had it in the first place.
Sonnet wins everyone; I quit.Finally someone that have eyes to see.and mind to think.
But only because I loathe the fact that someone other than the admins has the admin password and views each save that has been posted.
WTF???? You mean to say you think of something but write something else or what??
Do you have any proof sonnet was checking the saves except times he had to sub? It's yuon that admitted he checked other people's saves even when he didn't have to sub.
And Myth just said the passwords have been changed so invicta doesn't have them anymore. If you can't trust Myth who's been here on the org since who knows how long and it is we who joined from TWC, then you're just another bad loser. I can't believe this.....
I hope everyone can see Sonnet's guilty conscious. I never said he had it in the first place.
Sonnet wins everyone; I quit.
What you wrote is clear, as it's clear you didn't make much effort to find a good excuse to quit.
But anyway, you spammed my inbox with at least 10 pm's since the HS started complaining that France had lots of money and you were not having fun because of this.
You were in league with Yuonyuon,Dur3x and so on, and when he left (although Auran continued with the plan, and actually this might have favoured you as when I tried to convince Yuonyuon to stay,because you needed him, he said that it was useless to help you since your faction was dead anyway)-as Castille-that further penalized you (and , you smart thinking, blame others rather than him for abandoning you..) .
But what you missed, despite me making notice you, is that the only issue was that you got fooled by France (but for that you can only blame yourself, rather than finding others to blame). And for a player like Jiub to use betrayal, it means that he was at disadvantage , not you.
In skip-a-few HS, the biggest advantage/disadvantage is who start first on turn 3 (after the forced peace ends). An advantage that you had and that you wasted by trusting the guy. Had you and HRE attacked first the situation would have been completely reversed .
You kept complaining that you faction was weak, while your faction is one of the 2-3 that could take everyone else alone. TO is the weakest faction (and I warned the player before making the final choice).
Now you leave because all your buddies are leaving and you feel scared alone. But a good player doesn't rely on his buddies. Joining a HS counting on other's help is a loser attitude. Good players play like Lord Luka, by using the excellent diplomacy skills. Despite being in a much harder position (at the centre ) he did all the right choices at the right time. You had a top faction, and despite all your mistakes your faction is still alive,proving how strong is your faction.
But all in all you should play to play, not to win. This is a game, but it seems many are not capable of having fun and victory is all it counts for them. But running away won't make you a better player.
Vipman :Emproment was trying to find an excuse to leave since many turns already. Just 2 turns ago he asked a change of pswd and threatened to leave the HS if the admin didn't change the pswd before his next turn came up. Emproment, Dur3x, Yuonyuon and LooseCannon were in the same league from the beginning.He hoped Yuonyuon could take France. Now that Legourou remained alone he feels lost. This is the reason is leaving, although he has not the courage to say it.
Gaius Octavius Caesar
10-10-2014, 08:27
Where are the players that play till the end even if they are losing.
Ive asked some ppl but i was refused. Id say lets put this on hold a bit until we ll find 3 players.
Where are the players that play till the end even if they are losing.
Ive asked some ppl but i was refused. Id say lets put this on hold a bit until we ll find 3 players.
I can take England and leave the Turks free to be taken, if that helps to find new players (as Turks are supposed to be in better shape an so at this stage it might be a more desirable faction)
That's what I want to see, just talk about the actual hotseat. I always stick until the end, even If It's a hopless situation. For example late era Sicilly fighting the Moors (lead by Nightbringer) in a lead battle game.
We should start more games.
Did Dur3x leave as well? I must have missed that.
I might as well let yuon have France if this way we can all carry on with the hotseat, but I understand if you guys don't want this.
yuonyuon
10-10-2014, 09:07
What you wrote is clear, as it's clear you didn't make much effort to find a good excuse to quit.
But anyway, you spammed my inbox with at least 10 pm's since the HS started complaining that France had lots of money and you were not having fun because of this.
You were in league with Yuonyuon,Dur3x and so on, and when he left (although Auran continued with the plan, and actually this might have favoured you as when I tried to convince Yuonyuon to stay,because you needed him, he said that it was useless to help you since your faction was dead anyway)-as Castille-that further penalized you (and , you smart thinking, blame others rather than him for abandoning you..) .
But what you missed, despite me making notice you, is that the only issue was that you got fooled by France (but for that you can only blame yourself, rather than finding others to blame). And for a player like Jiub to use betrayal, it means that he was at disadvantage , not you.
In skip-a-few HS, the biggest advantage/disadvantage is who start first on turn 3 (after the forced peace ends). An advantage that you had and that you wasted by trusting the guy. Had you and HRE attacked first the situation would have been completely reversed .
You kept complaining that you faction was weak, while your faction is one of the 2-3 that could take everyone else alone. TO is the weakest faction (and I warned the player before making the final choice).
Now you leave because all your buddies are leaving and you feel scared alone. But a good player doesn't rely on his buddies. Joining a HS counting on other's help is a loser attitude. Good players play like Lord Luka, by using the excellent diplomacy skills. Despite being in a much harder position (at the centre ) he did all the right choices at the right time. You had a top faction, and despite all your mistakes your faction is still alive,proving how strong is your faction.
But all in all you should play to play, not to win. This is a game, but it seems many are not capable of having fun and victory is all it counts for them. But running away won't make you a better player.
Vipman :Emproment was trying to find an excuse to leave since many turns already. Just 2 turns ago he asked a change of pswd and threatened to leave the HS if the admin didn't change the pswd before his next turn came up. Emproment, Dur3x, Yuonyuon ald LoserCannon were in the same league from the beginning.He hoped Yuonyuon could take France. Now that Legourou remained alone he feels lost. This is the reason is leaving, although he has not the courage to say it.Sorry to say that is only your attitude that makes players to leave .every player that was not agree with you or at war with you was dragged in to a fight to the main forum an criticized by you .
of course he is alone and he don t feel to continue after all his possible allies was gone.
Tonno said "kick Durex and yuon" and we are gone
why is so bad to be a coalition in the west of the map like is one twice stronger in the east?
this is not the way to win a HS , this is not "diplomacy" . remember that you where first person that threat us to leave because your position was in danger.
" Legourou, Dur3x, Yuonyuon ald LoserCannon were in the same league from the beginning.He hoped Yuonyuon could take France. Now that Legourou remained alone he feels lost. This is the reason is leaving, although he has not the courage to say it."
yeap that it true ! i already admitted that.
Vipman "It's yuon that admitted he checked other people's saves even when he didn't have to sub."
yeap that is true . but be careful i didn t "cheeked other people" so stop accusing me for nothing . i was official subber of Egypt and i had all the rights to and power to see the save .
i never see Sonnet to admit that he cheeked all the people saves even he knows half of them , you must be NAIV to think he don t do that .
England,HRE,Moors ,where subbed and "cheked by Sonnet i m 100000% i know because he subbed them at some point and in mater of fact I know half of the passwords many from him . ,,I that im not even play the game , how that can be possible .i know almost 10 passwords that was used or are still used.
i hop i was civil and honest enough that Mith will not delete my post. or BAN me like he said.
Did Dur3x leave as well? I must have missed that.
I might as well let yuon have France if this way we can all carry on with the hotseat, but I understand if you guys don't want this.
Vipman
Dur3x didn't say he's leaving, but the fact that he's not playing his turn while he's playing in other HS seems a safe assumption thinking he left.
About Yuonyuon taking France. Lets forget for one second his uncivil behaviour and lets imagine he could behave in a civil manner.
This doesn't solve the main issue that him, Dur3x and Emproment showed: the fact that they would leave as soon as they're losing.
Yuonyuon left Castille as soon as he lost his 2 allies in the east. And then with Kwarezm left after just few turns, despite still having 14-15 regions and a peace offer on the table which could have let him wait for a better moment to attack in the future, like now Core-i7 is doing. Since Core-i7 took over Kwarezm stats are improving rapidly. And Kwarezm has still very good chances to win the game.
So imagine we let them rejoin: as long as they keep winning, they'll be playing. But if they start losing, what makes you think they won't do the same? We need players who plays until the end (which means until the very last settlement). And those sort of "leagues" are a double edge sword, and that's why I always discouraged that: since the defeat of your buddies basically drags you down too. Like in this case, Emproment when lost his buddies thought to leave as well.
Had he make his own strategy without relying on others this wouldn't have happened.
Player are free to form coalitions, but this HS is not a coalition game: only one will win, and everyone is expected to play for his own victory. Leaving because you lost your allies, is not a good excuse, particularly if your faction is still in decent shape.
Myth : I only had the pswd's of the faction of which I was the official subber (HRE initially, and HRE-England when they were merged, in agreement with Emproment) and the Moors (who asked me to sub him). Never had any other pswd.
So I had the pswd of only one faction more than the others. 2 players (Emproment and Tonno) have my pswd and I don't mind it, and actually I trust them they won't misuse it.
I'd have loved to start as Castille in this hotseat. Or England. There was great potential but TBH all the bickering and giving up ruined it.
yuonyuon
10-10-2014, 11:36
Due to the high threat of drama the FBI (Federal Bureau of Instaban) has been assigned to this case. Any personal attacks will be banned, even If this means halting the hotseat.back to TWC!
We should start more games.
I was planing to start mine two games this weekend, but I can't get to start some of my mods. And there where some problems on the college regarding my pause so I didn't find time to set up the needed details.
I might promote a skip a few HS tomorow, to see how many ppl would be playing in it, then I would set it up, while the other HS (with the good ideas) would be open later.
Im gone til sunday, my sibber should just continue Kievs path to victory!
Emproment
10-11-2014, 01:08
"him, Dur3x and Emproment showed: the fact that they would leave as soon as they're losing."
Castille and England have never been in a better position. In fact, England and Castille were about to wreck some face in a few turns.
So... the exact opposite of what you said occurred: we left when we were winning the most.
Gaius Octavius Caesar
10-11-2014, 08:11
"him, Dur3x and Emproment showed: the fact that they would leave as soon as they're losing."
Castille and England have never been in a better position. In fact, England and Castille were about to wreck some shit in a few turns.
So... the exact opposite of what you said occurred: we left when we were winning the most.
Actually its the other way around, Castille left because the Moors were defeated and he is next. You may be in a good position in N Europe but look south.
"him, Dur3x and Emproment showed: the fact that they would leave as soon as they're losing."
Castille and England have never been in a better position. In fact, England and Castille were about to wreck some shit in a few turns.
So... the exact opposite of what you said occurred: we left when we were winning the most.
Emm... You where kind a growing in my heart, and I was starting to consider you as a good HS player. But the last few posts, this in particular ...
I would just like to reminad that both durex and yuon didn't do sh...stuff for Castile. In words of yuon: Castile is a wreck; but as soon as durex took the faction he stoped with writing that. Probably since durex allowed him to look at his save.
Although you played as a true HS player (don't know about dem messages) and with help, saved England and as a result become a strong faction. I can't stand next to the words that durex went of the HS while he was one of the strongest. Yes you where wining the most, but only if we look in what kind of position you where. Otherwise your factions are not in a safe ground.
I thought Hungary was doing pretty well too.
"him, Dur3x and Emproment showed: the fact that they would leave as soon as they're losing."
Castille and England have never been in a better position. In fact, England and Castille were about to wreck some face in a few turns.
So... the exact opposite of what you said occurred: we left when we were winning the most.
Like Gaius said, Castille left right when Moors got attacked by Egypt and its position became extremely weak (Castille has literally no army that could save its Spanish regions if Egypt decides to send his best stack to invade those), being open to attacks from a new front. Castille felt strong only because it had to fight on 1 front until now.
Best proof is that Dur3x got extremely angered by that and feared this was the beginning of an Egyptian campaign against him.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?147569-Restless-crowns-forging-empires-Late-era-Skip-a-few&p=2053618986&viewfull=1#post2053618986
and immediately realized he needed help or else..
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?147569-Restless-crowns-forging-empires-Late-era-Skip-a-few&p=2053619002&viewfull=1#post2053619002
This was actually the lowest point for Castille and that's why you and Castille wanted so badly France to be taken by someone of your circle.
Everybody who was playing understands that, even you can't write what you wrote and stay serious, c'mon. :laugh4:
And by looking at the bad peace terms you accepted, it's clear to me that you had no confidence at all in your skills.
If I were in your position I'd never accepted such peace. I'd have surely got more either by diplomacy, or bent France by force. You were the weak link in your coalition since your faction was the one with the highest potential and did the least unfortunately. When you have the top faction, you're the one supposed to support your allies, rather than relying on them. And what's worse is that you completely locked England: in the best (quite unlikely) scenario that Castille could really advance against France, you'd been locked up by your ally for the territorial expansion. You'd have to expand against Norway, but if Norway keep enough ships, that becomes impossible.
And you needed many turns before being ready for another conflict, like I told you when you asked advice.
In your coalition you were bad allies with each other: had Castille (yuon turn 3) turned immediately against France rather than wasting resources for the conflict war vs the Moors the French-Venice-Norway betrayal could have hugely backfired on them and it would have been a huge victory and gain for you and Castille supported by HRE and Moors and fooling them for a while more (as there wouldn't have been no way for them to know about your connection)
But the lack of timing and hindsight and strategy caused all the mistakes each of you made.
Winning is more easily than it seems when you can catch the right opportunities. But if your gaming is limited to land-grabbing you can't really blame others if the situation 'mysteriously' deteriorate in a game that's defined "strategic" for quite a few reasons..
PS: and I forgot to mention..England is at its lowest point.. even in the stats. The only reason England increased the number of its region recently is because you traded HRE regions with France. HRE 2 Fortresses (one of which fully developed), 3 large cities, 2 cities , 1 Wooden Castle.
In the aftermath you gained for England 3 Fortresses (none of them developed), 1 Large City, 1 Castle 2 cities.
And you lost about turn income 4k of king treasury of HRE faction.
With the power cut to the Moors and the larger part African sheikdom of the Caliphate restored from the unruly ruler to the true successor to Muhammad, peace is forced to the Moors?
Hey hey, look who needs a super subber this is as slow as it gets
As possible solution to move on:
1-Kwarezm turned to ai (and put outside in the unconquerable area), and Core-i7-inside will be allowed to choose one faction between France and England
2-Moors ( puddingkip) can inherit Castille
3- Myth would you consider helping us out and taking a faction between the Turks and what's left between France and England?
You forgot to mention Kwarezm (and/or England if it's not taken?) would be put outside the conquerable area.
You forgot to mention Kwarezm (and/or England if it's not taken?) would be put outside the conquerable area.
yes you're right
Gaius Octavius Caesar
10-15-2014, 09:39
Sounds good to me. No1 new wants to join anyway.
go for it, although then the cuman and novgotrodian regions would still be inside right?
i would prefer the soultuion were khwazies are still a faction
Core-i7-inside
10-15-2014, 13:17
OK, let's move on. I'll take France.(and continue as Venice)
Or we can turn Venice AI and I'll go as Kwarezm and France.
OK, let's move on. I'll take France.(and continue as Venice)
Or we can turn Venice AI and I'll go as Kwarezm and France.
that will not be benefical in the long run. Sooner or later france and khwas wll eb a apart of the same conflict. For example if they are at war with turks or kiev, nations that are ebtween them. that would prove bad.
And as stated, if the map is to be lessened keep the northeast corner.
I propose that if we turn a faction to AI I give it a lump sum of money since the money scripts would have been disabled. Just don't leech that money through map information deals and the like.
Also, I'd love to play but I have the admin password so I do not want to be accused of misusing it.
I propose that if we turn a faction to AI I give it a lump sum of money since the money scripts would have been disabled. Just don't leech that money through map information deals and the like.
Also, I'd love to play but I have the admin password so I do not want to be accused of misusing it.
Agreed, we still need the khwazarems as a pain even though AI, much mroe interesting with both khwazies and mongols for me and turks
No way anyone should control 2 big factions, until now there have been some exceptions because factions were in the middle of a war or almost dead. So Core takes France, Puddingkip Castille, Myth can choose between England, Kwarezm or Turks if sonnet still offers his faction, and what remains between England or Kwarezm would be turned AI and made unconquerable. Maybe Mongols along with Kwazies too. And maybe Venice should either be turned AI or inherited directly by France so there would be fewer factions and faster turns.
Myth of course we know you have the password, but I think most of us agree for you to join, I proposed it as a solution to continue, if anyone doesn't agree with an admin player they should politely say so and we'll see from there.
Core-i7-inside
10-16-2014, 02:32
Alright, I got your points, I'll take France then. We can turn Venice AI and the HS will be a bit faster.(But if you ask me, I want to keep Venice too, it is not dead yet, Venice got friends. :P)
I want Myth to join. Even if he has admin password, I don't think he would cheat. Come one Myth, we trust you. :D
Ok so how do we do the whole time slots thing?
I'd rather have Invicta continue playing the turks. He's been settin gup his faction for regional dominance so far. I love me some England. But if you feel his power is not checked I can get the K-Shah thoughh I expect a clean diplomatic slate and don't promise I'll go YOLO against him like the preivous Kwarez players.
Core-i7-inside
10-16-2014, 08:33
Ok so how do we do the whole time slots thing?
I'd rather have Invicta continue playing the turks. He's been settin gup his faction for regional dominance so far. I love me some England. But if you feel his power is not checked I can get the K-Shah thoughh I expect a clean diplomatic slate and don't promise I'll go YOLO against him like the preivous Kwarez players.
I'm afraid, as a previous Kwarezm player, I don't think Kwarezm will be ready to war in the near future. :P
While I was playing Kwarezm, I was doing almost nothing to strengthening the power. All I have done is improving faction's economic. XD
Myth With the schedule we'd just continue to stick to it as much as we can. Remake the list with changed players and time-slots and see if everyone can adapt, if not we could add an extra day. England' time slot was 23:00-10:00 GMT, France following from 10:00-15:30 GMT
MY scheldule varies. I have gym 2-4 times per week after work. On those days I can only play from 7-9 GMT onwards. On the other work days I can play sooner. Weekends I almost always travel somewhere.
Ok so how do we do the whole time slots thing?
I'd rather have Invicta continue playing the turks. He's been settin gup his faction for regional dominance so far. I love me some England. But if you feel his power is not checked I can get the K-Shah thoughh I expect a clean diplomatic slate and don't promise I'll go YOLO against him like the preivous Kwarez players. Myth Vipman Tonno Lord Luka Core-i7-inside puddingkip Gaius Octavius Caesar
My suggestion is that we move to the 24hrs schedule (meaning everyone has a day).
But obviously everyone is invited to play as soon as he can to keep it fast.
About the faction choice: England imo should be much preferred to Kwarezm as it's easier to cut out Kwarezm from the map if needed than England.
But I'd suggest this solution: England could be assembled with Castille (meaning England would manage Castille and England), and Moors would manage Kwarezm too.
This because of the faction turn's order (England's turn comes after Castille and Kwarezm turn comes after Moors).
Personally it would be a great solution and would keep everything in game as also fast.
Agree to 24h schedule. But not sure about that factions combo.
Why is it easier to cut khwaz than england? Cutting england means cutting a small portion whilst still allowing great strategy in all directions for the neighbour(france)
Curtting Khwaz means both you and me lose 1 BIG direction to worry much about.
Personally i think cutting england is better
Core-i7-inside
10-17-2014, 02:20
24hrs schedule is okay. I agree.
I agree with Markrell that cutting the GB sounds better than cutting Kwarezm. (In case we have to cut a faction)
I think the combination of England and Castile is too powerful. But Kwarezm + Moors is okay. They're separated and they can't help each other as much as the England and Castile combination.
Why don't we give Myth Castile. Let me take France(and Venice**) ,puddingkip takes Moors and Kwarezm, and cut the GB and Ireland.
**If you guys want to, we can turn Venice AI.
A question tho, is there a NAP now between Egypt and Kwaz, cuz if puddinkip takes Kwaz and attacks Egypt cuz he attacked Moors? (Sorry I'm in a hurry)
puddingkip
10-17-2014, 09:51
I'm fine with 24 hour timeslot but I'm not sure about the factions. Don't think anybody should control more than one faction. And indeed rather England AI than Khwarezm
OK, then lets cut the British Islands.
We could let Myth take Castille and puddingkip (I understand your concerns but it's because we need help) preferably (in reason of the turn order) manage Kwarezm.
Vipman : if a player gets a second faction, he should obviously be allowed to manage the faction as he sees fit (including retaliation as you mentioned in your example). But personally I don't see much danger in it: Egypt and Turks are the factions who could suffer the most from Moors-Kwarezm being managed by the same player, particularly Egypt .
But Egypt is the strongest faction in game, so I don't see much of a problem.
Alright then, one last thing, besides the British isles will other regions of England be cut as well? I think England had some regions in N-E France.
PS and what's the final decision on Venice?
Alright then, one last thing, besides the British isles will other regions of England be cut as well? I think England had some regions in N-E France.
PS and what's the final decision on Venice?
I'd like to turn Venice to AI: all in all it has few regions (1-2) and it would speed up the HS.
About England I was thinking to cut only the British islands and keep what it has on the continent "conquerable". It should be 2-3 regions only, and it'd be easier to remember which regions can be taken and which not.
Unless someone thinks it's a bad idea, and prefers having England to keep those regions to present a bigger threat for the humans factions and spice things up in that corner of the map.
Nah, let people conquer those, England will still be able to field a stack or two for naval invasions
Core-i7-inside
10-18-2014, 17:54
I agree with Makrell.
Hmm, which faction is in a better position at the moment, England or Castille? What about their AR rosters?
Hmm, which faction is in a better position at the moment, England or Castille? What about their AR rosters?
By the words of better players Castile should be in better position, I agree. But England has better late units that's for sure.
Gaius Octavius Caesar
10-19-2014, 09:34
Castille cant be cut from the map as easy as Britain, so id say take Castille Myth
Core-i7-inside
10-19-2014, 16:50
I suggest we call a vote on whether or not we turn Venice AI. After that, we will be able to move again.
and I vote no. :P
Castille cant be cut from the map as easy as Britain, so id say take Castille Myth
There are 2 options then
1) Myth takes Castille, Puddingkip takes Kwarezm, England AI
2) Myth takes England, Puddingkip takes Castille, Kwarezm AI
So Myth decides, please choose.
I vote for Venice be turned AI or it's regions be given to France, just to have one less faction in the turn order and speed up the HS.
Gaius Octavius Caesar
10-19-2014, 21:43
My only concern is how powerful Castille+Moors combination will become.
So I can take either? Am I allowed to look at their positions on the save?
puddingkip
10-20-2014, 10:43
I'd allow you to look, and would vote on keeping Venice alive
One issue, unless Nightbringer agrees to be a full time admin there is no point in the game gaining a player and losing an admin...
Core-i7-inside
10-21-2014, 11:44
But ... we can't continue with few players. We need more. :|
Lord Luka
10-21-2014, 16:12
I think that those of us who are left will be regular players and hopefully noone will drop out anymore.I would just like to continue the HS before i completely loose my interest in it.IMO Venice should be AI.It would take a lot of time to bring back Venice and France has enough problems on it's own for Core to deal with.
Lord Luka
10-25-2014, 13:32
Or we could just let the HS die.
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