French Revolution Mafia [Concluded]

[GeneralHankerchief]

Aren't I still voting Arakhor?

CORRECTED CORRECTED TALLY:

Winston Hughes: 5 | Snerk (628), autolycus (679), Csargo (690), Renata (729), atheotes (738)
El Barto: 5 | Zack (674), NotACop (677), Lewwyn (700), Manasi (702), Dp101 (704)
atheotes: 2 | Choxon (741), ATPG (744)
Dp101: 2 | seireikhaan (689), Al Sipsclar (716)
NotACop: 1 | Arakhor (647)
Arakhor: 1 | Montmorency (574)

Round ends:

[Montmorency]

574, I voted Arakhor and haven't changed since.

Winston may deserve more time to present himself, so with all the exceptions handed out today it's looking like:

NAC
atheotes
Arakhor

Why don't we lynch Arakhor, and Renata hero-shots atheotes?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Above tally may not be correct, just highlighting names.

This is where I'm at on people.

Since peeps are vouching for dp101's townie-ness, given the above listed options, I'm not voting for El Barto for the reason that's been repeatedly stated, and I'm not a fan of NotACop lynch. He'd make a minimum effort as scum, I've never seen him just abandon his faction or his scum team. I'd lynch dp to scratch my curiosity but probably not over the loud objections of others I trust. I can't comment on Sooh/WH because they haven't done anything. Maybe because they couldn't do anything.

I'm greedy. I want to kill a scumbag that's actually wriggling. I don't care if it's risky for me or my faction. If 2 randed into my faction, then my faction would generally lose the game anyway unless they directed kills outside of it a lot.

I also like to take hero shots, ask Monstrdude. So lets just say choxorn's boldness appeals to me.

Edit validity confirmed.

[Renata]

Renata's taking a nap. But I will probably be back before end of day and have already deputized faction-mates regardless. Same exact list of options, lol.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why don't we lynch Arakhor, and Renata hero-shots atheotes?

If atheotes comes up scum, there's also a chance that it is the end of the Royals faction, and therefore, you wouldn't need to lynch Arakhor. You could lynch the Girondins as thanks for a job well done, perhaps.

[Montmorency]

If atheotes comes up scum, there's also a chance that it is the end of the Royals faction, and therefore, you wouldn't need to lynch Arakhor. You could lynch the Girondins as thanks for a job well done, perhaps.

I don't get it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't get it.

It's just me realizing that if there were 2 scums in the Girondin faction, the next phase of the game would go poorly for us regardless.

Don't care. Glory to France.

[Montmorency]

It's just me realizing that if there were 2 scums in the Girondin faction, the next phase of the game would go poorly for us regardless.

Don't care. Glory to France.

If we lynch last scum today, there's always tonight for launching the nukes and piecing the winner together in the morning.

But that would be short-sighted.

[autolycus]

574, I voted Arakhor and haven't changed since.

Winston may deserve more time to present himself, so with all the exceptions handed out today it's looking like:

NAC
atheotes
Arakhor

Why don't we lynch Arakhor, and Renata hero-shots atheotes?

I'm fine with this, but given the time constraints, I'd flip the two around. unvote: Winston Hughes, vote:atheotes

[Askthepizzaguy]

If we lynch last scum today, there's always tonight for launching the nukes and piecing the winner together in the morning.

Each faction has their own unique set of powers. Anybody in the faction can perform any ability at night, however, some abilities are secretly linked to a player known only by me. Upon that player's death, the faction will lose access to that ability. For example, if I (unknowingly) was linked to my faction's 2x vig shot ability, anybody could perform those vig shots, but if I died before those shots were taken, my faction could no longer make use of that ability.

:laugh4: (https://satwcomic.com/art/cold-war-games.png)

[atheotes]

:pop2:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Montmorency

There's a lot of popcorn to be had on the atheotes wagon. Care to join?

[Montmorency]

You don't have to do this quote

Did we ever fix up code for formatting start-time in video playback?


Montmorency

There's a lot of popcorn to be had on the atheotes wagon. Care to join?

What's the most you've ever lost on a coin toss?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am just letting you know, the general vibe I'm getting from atheotes in elsewhereland is that he's pining for the loss of his three best buddies and is eager to join them rather than drag it out.

I could be misreading him. *shrugs* But that's what this game is all about. I don't know and I want to know, by killing.

[Montmorency]

For Winston. Unvote: Arakhor; Vote: atheotes

[Lewwyn]

I am just letting you know, the general vibe I'm getting from atheotes in elsewhereland is that he's pining for the loss of his three best buddies and is eager to join them rather than drag it out.

I could be misreading him. *shrugs* But that's what this game is all about. I don't know and I want to know, by killing.

Sure, I'm in.

Unvote: Vote: Atheotes

[Lewwyn]

Sure, I'm in.

Unvote: Vote: Atheotes

Unvote: Vote: Atheotes

:rolleyes:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Tally as of post 767.

atheotes: 5 | Choxorn (741), ATPG (744), autolycus (759), Montmorency (765), Lewwyn (767)
Winston Hughes: 4 | Snerk (628), Csargo (691), Renata (729), atheotes (738)
El Barto: 4 | Zack (674), NotACop (677), Manasi (702), Dp101 (704)
Dp101: 2 | seireikhaan (689), Al Sipsclar (716)
NotACop: 1 | Arakhor (647)

Round ends:

[Askthepizzaguy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MK7o_76QeU

[Csargo]

Csargo listed twice, GeneralHankerchief

Aw man. You took away all my power. Two votes I was going places. :soapbox:

[Snerk]

Agree with giving Winston a day I guess.

unvote, vote: NotACop

[Csargo]

Unvote, Vote:atheotes

[Montmorency]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHVo0hJhnK4

[atheotes]

Anyone want to try explaining their vote on me?:laugh4:

[Manasi]

Agree with giving Winston a day I guess.

unvote, vote: NotACop

What no why

[Montmorency]

Anyone want to try explaining their vote on me?:laugh4:

Vengeance victorious
These are the glorious days
Women of Paris, come gather your bloody bouquets!
Now gaze on our goddess of justice
With her shimmering, glimmering blade
As she kisses these traitors she sings them a last serenade

[Snerk]

What no why

What part did you disagree with?

[atheotes]

Hell no. I feel I've made a decent contribution to this game, but the game gets boring if it's only sheep pizza time, for everyone and for me.


Montmorency

There's a lot of popcorn to be had on the atheotes wagon. Care to join?

:shrug:

[Manasi]

What part did you disagree with?

The voting on NAC bit.

[BSmith]

Apologies for being quiet. Weekends usually get in the way of my online time.

I'm fine with any of NAC, Arakhor or Atheotes. Wouldn't mind if they were the top three vote getters today.

vote: NotACop

[Snerk]

The voting on NAC bit.

Manasi wagon d1. Decent chance at least one scum tried to help out Jabbz, no?

Why is NAC a bad lynch?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Tally as of post 781.

atheotes: 6 | Choxorn (741), ATPG (744), autolycus (759), Montmorency (765), Lewwyn (767), Csargo (772)
El Barto: 4 | Zack (674), NotACop (677), Manasi (702), Dp101 (704)
NotACop: 3 | Arakhor (647), Snerk (771), BSmith (780)
Winston Hughes: 2 | Renata (729), atheotes (738)
Dp101: 2 | seireikhaan (689), Al Sipsclar (716)

Round ends:

[Csargo]

Anyone want to try explaining their vote on me?:laugh4:

Give me a better alternative?

[Csargo]

Tally as of post 781.

atheotes: 6 | Choxorn (741), ATPG (744), autolycus (759), Montmorency (765), Lewwyn (767), Csargo (772)
El Barto: 4 | Zack (674), NotACop (677), Manasi (702), Dp101 (704)
NotACop: 3 | Arakhor (647), Snerk (771), BSmith (780)
Winston Hughes: 2 | Renata (729), atheotes (738)
Dp101: 2 | seireikhaan (689), Al Sipsclar (716)

Round ends:


Give me back my second vote you thief in the night! :bigcry:

[atheotes]

Give me a better alternative?

Alternative to what? I don't know why you are voting for me.
The people on the D1 cw should be the priority

[Manasi]

Arakhor

:hide:

[Manasi]

Gn sweet scum.

[GeneralHankerchief]

https://i.imgur.com/QIDKXDL.jpg

Near the end of the day's deliberations, the doors to the National Convention burst open and an entire platoon of guards rushed in.

"What is the meaning of this?" the President demanded, but the guards ignored him as they quickly accomplished their work: In a flurry of motion, VICTIM was taken hold of by three of the guards, dragged out of the building (over the vehement protest of his faction-mates), and, with the entire Convention gathered around various windows that had a view, VICTIM was summarily shot on the front lawn of the palace.

"He was a traitor to the Revolution," the captain of the guard simply said, almost daring the Convention to make a movement against him when he had quite a few soldiers as backing.

Gradually the Conventioners backed down and resumed their proceedings, albeit one fewer in number.

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Arakhor was killed! He was:
Jean-Paul Marat, a Populist! Not a Royalist.

Time remaining in round:

[Snerk]

Well that escalated quickly.

[Manasi]

Gn sweet Populist.*

[Dp101]

Welp.

[Snerk]

And tell me again why NAC is a bad lynch?

[GeneralHankerchief]

New, Arakhor-less tally (accurate as of Post 789):

atheotes: 6 | Choxorn (741), ATPG (744), autolycus (759), Montmorency (765), Lewwyn (767), Csargo (772)
El Barto: 4 | Zack (674), NotACop (677), Manasi (702), Dp101 (704)
NotACop: 2 | Snerk (771), BSmith (780)
Winston Hughes: 2 | Renata (729), atheotes (738)
Dp101: 2 | seireikhaan (689), Al Sipsclar (716)

Round ends:

[Dp101]

And tell me again why NAC is a bad lynch?

It isn't that bad, I just feel that Barto's response to NAC's posts was worse.

[Zack]

Terrible shot.

[Zack]

Also why isn't day over

[Montmorency]

Terrible shot.

There will be compensation.

[Renata]

Terrible shot.

I would have shot NAC, personally. Shrug.

unvote: Winston Hughes
vote: NAC

[Renata]

NAC as a townie doesn't post one reads list and a handful of pointless near-one-liners and then leave, Manasi. That's his scum game.

[GeneralHankerchief]

798

atheotes: 6 | Choxorn (741), ATPG (744), autolycus (759), Montmorency (765), Lewwyn (767), Csargo (772)
El Barto: 4 | Zack (674), NotACop (677), Manasi (702), Dp101 (704)
NotACop: 3 | Snerk (771), BSmith (780), Renata (798)
Dp101: 2 | seireikhaan (689), Al Sipsclar (716)
Winston Hughes: 1 | atheotes (738)

Round ends:

[Csargo]

Unvote, Vote: NAC

[Montmorency]

I'll think about it.

Unvote: atheotes
Vote: NAC

THUNDER

[Montmorency]

Unvote: NAC
Vote: atheotes

Keep it spicy.

[GeneralHankerchief]

802

NotACop: 5 | Snerk (771), BSmith (780), Renata (798), Csargo (801), Montmorency (802)
atheotes: 4 | Choxorn (741), ATPG (744), autolycus (759), Lewwyn (767)
El Barto: 4 | Zack (674), NotACop (677), Manasi (702), Dp101 (704)
Dp101: 2 | seireikhaan (689), Al Sipsclar (716)
Winston Hughes: 1 | atheotes (738)

Round ends:

[Zack]

unvote, vote: atheotes

spicy etc

[GeneralHankerchief]

803


atheotes: 5 | Choxorn (741), ATPG (744), autolycus (759), Lewwyn (767), Montmorency (803)
NotACop: 4 | Snerk (771), BSmith (780), Renata (798), Csargo (801)
El Barto: 4 | Zack (674), NotACop (677), Manasi (702), Dp101 (704)
Dp101: 2 | seireikhaan (689), Al Sipsclar (716)
Winston Hughes: 1 | atheotes (738)

[GeneralHankerchief]

805

6-4-3 atheotes-NAC-Barto

[Manasi]

don't call my shot terrible wtf.

[atheotes]

such a useless day!

unvote; Vote: El Barto

[atheotes]

I still think Sooh/Winston is the best place to vote...

[atheotes]

I can understand giving time if Winston had checked in...
unvote; vote: Winston Hughes

Good night! My faction is doomed. Hope you guys dont lose to the Royalists from here.

[GeneralHankerchief]

809

atheotes: 6 | Choxorn (741), ATPG (744), autolycus (759), Lewwyn (767), Montmorency (803), Zack (805)
NotACop: 4 | Snerk (771), BSmith (780), Renata (798), Csargo (801)
El Barto: 4 | NotACop (677), Manasi (702), Dp101 (704), atheotes (809)
Dp101: 2 | seireikhaan (689), Al Sipsclar (716)

Round ends:

[Snerk]

don't call my shot terrible wtf.

OK but why?

[GeneralHankerchief]

811

atheotes: 6 | Choxorn (741), ATPG (744), autolycus (759), Lewwyn (767), Montmorency (803), Zack (805)
NotACop: 4 | Snerk (771), BSmith (780), Renata (798), Csargo (801)
El Barto: 4 | NotACop (677), Manasi (702), Dp101 (704)
Dp101: 2 | seireikhaan (689), Al Sipsclar (716)
Winston: 1 | atheotes (811)

Round ends:

[Zack]

don't call my shot terrible wtf.

Don't make terrible shots

[Zack]

I can understand giving time if Winston had checked in...
unvote; vote: Winston Hughes

Good night! My faction is doomed. Hope you guys dont lose to the Royalists from here.

Well that was just about the wolfiest thing you could have said.

[Montmorency]

Well that was just about the wolfiest thing you could have said.

Is it?

Unvote: atheotes
Vote: NAC

[NotACop]

on top of my earlier posts I've pointed out about Dp101, I also feel like pointing out the following, as I was just doing a quick re-read again.


Is it not obvious that I called it wrong because it made no sense? I feel you are reaching here, heavily.

When Zack pointed out Dp101 sounded TMI as Dp101 said ATPG's read post was wrong. First of all, I agree that it seemed TMI. Second, I don't like this response "is it not obvious", just something about that.

+


I disagree with your disagreeing, Jabbz summed up how I view D1 as scum pretty well. I'm going to set up the aliases for the votecounter soon.
Kinda weird defense of Jabbz on something of little importance and barely alignment indicative at all.

and I miss getting any towny impression from his other posts, which is a problem when he got quite a bunch of posts.

vote: Dp101
Barto fine counterwagon. Don't hate the Atheo wagon, as I read his posts closer this time, and didn't get the same towny impression as I did yesterday(I remembered from my first read he had a good bunch of posts at one time that striked me as towny, but seems I've remembered wrong, as I only found a time on d1 he had a couple posts within short time).

[NotACop]

Sooh also less towny on reread than what impression I got at first read. But will let winston get a chance to post, while I believe stronger in Dp101 lynch anyway.

[GeneralHankerchief]

818

atheotes: 5 | Choxorn (741), ATPG (744), autolycus (759), Lewwyn (767), Zack (805)
NotACop: 5 | Snerk (771), BSmith (780), Renata (798), Csargo (801), Montmorency (817)
Dp101: 3 | seireikhaan (689), Al Sipsclar (716), NotACop (818)
El Barto: 2 | Manasi (702), Dp101 (704)
Winston: 1 | atheotes (811)

Round ends:

[NotACop]

Actually disregard Barto for today. Think we should concentrate on Dp101 and Atheo.

[Montmorency]

NAC and atheotes both sound subdued, but it's understandable.

Zack, are you willing to vig one if the other is lynched?

[Renata]

Actually disregard Barto for today. Think we should concentrate on Dp101 and Atheo.

I like my vote on you. Dp's not engageing in his usual scum tells (overdefending being a big one) out here, much less in QT. You're still sticking to Barto as a fine wagon? Barto's probably town. Not sure about atheotes. He clearly doesn't care right now, but I've seen that before from him on lynch when he was town. I'm not sure if this is exactly the same or not.

[NotACop]

people thinking or at least just hoping I'm scum, can

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TpohxSt2M8

[Dp101]

Vote: NAC

[NotACop]

I like my vote on you. Dp's not engageing in his usual scum tells (overdefending being a big one) out here, much less in QT. You're still sticking to Barto as a fine wagon? Barto's probably town. Not sure about atheotes. He clearly doesn't care right now, but I've seen that before from him on lynch when he was town. I'm not sure if this is exactly the same or not.

you like your vote on me cause you go for the lazy way of trying to solve me, which, in this case is wrong. (I do remember you and Dp101 doing the work in last game on MU, looking at my meta - and it seems you're just using that, semi-tunneling me as a result)

[NotACop]

Vote: NAC

now I'm more scummy than El Barto, for actually doing work? Does my work look fake to you?

[Montmorency]

Unvote: NAC; Vote: atheotes

6-6 tie

[GeneralHankerchief]

826

NotACop: 6 | Snerk (771), BSmith (780), Renata (798), Csargo (801), Montmorency (817), Dp101 (825)
atheotes: 5 | Choxorn (741), ATPG (744), autolycus (759), Lewwyn (767), Zack (805)
Dp101: 3 | seireikhaan (689), Al Sipsclar (716), NotACop (818)
El Barto: 1 | Manasi (702)
Winston: 1 | atheotes (811)

Round ends:

[NotACop]

Unvote: NAC; Vote: atheotes

6-6 tie

good, I'll join atheo is people don't want to swing to Dp101 soon

[NotACop]

Dp101 frozen?

[Montmorency]

good, I'll join atheo is people don't want to swing to Dp101 soon

Why would you say that?

DP is an interesting case, but he won't be lynched today.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I have it 6-5 atheotes after Monty's switch.

[Montmorency]

Renata

[Choxorn]

I'm not sure if atheotes could have done more in the past few hours to make me feel good about lynching him if he tried.

[NotACop]

Why would you say that?

DP is an interesting case, but he won't be lynched today.

because I'm currently voting Dp101, and would prefer his lynch - but will of course vote atheo to not get lynched, if that's needed

[GeneralHankerchief]

836

atheotes: 6 | Choxorn (741), ATPG (744), autolycus (759), Lewwyn (767), Zack (805), Monty (828)
NotACop: 5 | Snerk (771), BSmith (780), Renata (798), Csargo (801), Dp101 (825)
Dp101: 3 | seireikhaan (689), Al Sipsclar (716), NotACop (818)
El Barto: 1 | Manasi (702)
Winston: 1 | atheotes (811)

Round ends:

[NotACop]

Dp101 you still around?

[Montmorency]

Unvote: atheotes
Vote: NAC

6-5 NAC

Just vote atheotes already.

[NotACop]

vote: Atheotos

still think Dp101 got good scum equity here. Voting me as OMGUS and peacing out right after, with just minutes to EOD
also worth to look over things I've pointed out about him, in case I get killed by a faction tonight

[NotACop]

Unvote: atheotes
Vote: NAC

6-5 NAC

Just vote atheotes already.

Well excuse me for trying to get more of a feel on my top scum suspect

[Montmorency]

Final 30 seconds. Who wants to be a hero?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Voting closed.

[GeneralHankerchief]

"This is a nation of monkeys with the throat of parrots."
~ Emmanuel Joseph Sieyès

Day 2


https://i.imgur.com/pxjR6PA.jpg

A relatively less intense day of discussion suddenly became a lot more interesting after the shock death of Arakhor, with a few people decrying the action - apparently orchestrated by Manasi - and others resorting to gallows humor as a coping mechanism. What was most noticeable, though, was that the votes moved around very quickly and fluidly after Arakhor's death.

Eventually, after much debate, the vote coalesced around two unlucky suspects: NotACop, who was around for the later period and seemed to be actively discharging his duty as a Convention member and looking for Royalists (emphasis on seemed to be, according to some), and atheotes, who conversely appeared to be taking inspiration from the Stoics when facing his possible impending death. After a final flurry, everybody looked to the President to provide closure.

"Citoyens," he said, "the final count has been tallied and it is a tie." Everybody gasped. Surely one of the emergency measures passed during the Terror would have provided for this eventuality, right? After all, these were all learned men, educated lawyers and politicians and some even merchants, and they had studied their philosophy, and were deeply invested in the matters of justice, and about a thousand other different things which all pointed to a sensible yet just solution in matters such as these. So what was it to be?

"Keeping with the true spirit of the Revolution," the president continued, "We will honor the great tradition of our republican colleagues and forbears and keep their wisdom in mind when resolving this issue. The most just, the most natural, the most fair way of breaking this tie is..." - everybody held their breaths...

"Random chance!"

"WHAT?!" The shout was unison, from all of the supposedly enlightened Convention members, to a couple of shocked guards, to NotACop and atheotes themselves. Weren't they supposed to defend themselves before a special tribunal or something? Appeal directly to a smaller body, maybe have the president himself cast the deciding vote? Apparently the rules of the Convention provided for nothing for this.

What they did provide for, however, was fantastic theater. Everybody gathered in close as the president fished a coin out of his pocket and showed it to the two possible victims.

"NotACop, atheotes, this coin, mined from ore in the Alps, struck in the mint of Lyon, is a true Revolutionary symbol, and it will decide your fates today. This is heads," showing them a side displaying the image of Marianne, a popular figure representing the people of France and the Revolution, "And this is tails," showing them the reverse, an engraving of the storming of the Bastille. "NotACop, you have the honor of calling it in the air."

"Wait, why does he get to call it in the air?" said atheotes. "What determines this? I want to call it in the air! Let me decide my own fate!"

"Now hold on a minute," NAC responded, "This doesn't get to be decided like this! He doesn't get to call it in the air just because he wants it! I demand a preliminary coin flip to determine who gets to call the ultimate coin flip while it's in the air!"

"Yes, agreed! Although... who gets to call *that* one in the air?"

"Oh for the love of-" the President sighed, before cutting himself and everyone else off. "I will deal with the preliminary coin flip. NotACop, you're heads. atheotes, you're tails. Whichever side the coin lands face-up on gets to call the big one. Agreed?"

"Agreed," both said.

"Very well," said the president, and flipped it. The Storming of the Bastille faced the crowd.

"YESSSSSSS!" atheotes visibly cheered, gloating over his preliminary victory as NAC swore loudly. The celebration went on entirely too long, as atheotes started an elaborate victory dance routine.

"Dude, the real coin hasn't even been flipped yet!" someone in the crowd called out.

"I know, but now that I control the call I can't lose!" atheotes replied. "I was so happy when I was assigned tails, because tails never fails! And now I'm guaranteed to stake it on tails, and I couldn't be happier! This is as good as over, I say! Toodle-oo, Royalist scum!"

"Alright, settle down," the president said. "This is the final flip. atheotes, you have the honor of calling it in the air," he finished, flipping the coin.

"TAILS!" atheotes called.

Marianne's face greeted the crowd. atheotes had indeed gotten to decide his own fate, with all of the consequences attached to it.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

atheotes has been lynched! He was:
Abbé Sieyès, a Girondin!Not a Royalist.

Day 2 tally:

atheotes: 6 | Choxorn (741), ATPG (744), autolycus (759), Lewwyn (767), Zack (805), NotACop (840) :skull:
NotACop: 6 | Snerk (771), BSmith (780), Renata (798), Csargo (801), Dp101 (825), Montmorency (839)
Dp101: 2 | seireikhaan (689), Al Sipsclar (716)
El Barto: 1 | Manasi (702)
Winston Hughes: 1 | atheotes (811)

Not voting: 2 | Winston Hughes, El Barto

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It is now Night 2! Please send in your orders.

Night 2 ends 1:00 PM US Eastern Time on Tuesday, March 14 (GMT-4).



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive (17):
Al Sipsclar
Askthepizzaguy
autolycus
BSmith
Choxorn
Csargo
Dp101
El Barto
Lewwyn
Manasi
Montmorency
NotACop
Renata
seireikhaan
Snerk
Winston Hughes
Zack

Killed:
Fenn
Monstrdude
Logic
Kagemusha
Arakhor

Guillotined:
Jabbz
atheotes

[GeneralHankerchief]

Announcement: Though I will attempt to avoid this, the night phase may run a little bit long due to me dealing with an impending snowstorm (shoveling, etc) tomorrow.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Night has ended, no more orders will be accepted.

Processing now, should be up in 30 or so.

[GeneralHankerchief]

"A sans culotte always has his sabre well-sharpened, ready to cut off the ears of all opponents of the Revolution."
~ Antoine-François Momoro

Night 2


https://i.imgur.com/8dAtoAg.jpg

The Parisian mob had always been the single greatest driver of the Revolution. From the storming of the Bastille in 1789, to the Women's March on Versailles which dragged Louis XVI and the royal family back to the city proper, from the unfortunate September Massacres, they were always present to remind people that while high political rhetoric was wonderful and all, ultimately it was their will that mattered the most. Despite this, the politicians and higher-ups always seemed to forget them, to take them for granted, after a while - at least until they struck again in the most spectacular way possible. Thus was the cycle renewed.

Was tonight the night they struck again? One street preacher was certainly doing the best to make this the case, gathering a larger and larger crowd as the evening wore on and whipping his listeners up into a greater and greater frenzy. Waxing poetic about the evils of nobility, avarice, and counter-Revolution, he finished off his harangue by demanding action.

"Go, my children! Go, you true fathers of the Revolution! Go out and remind them all that it was upon the backs and blood of the sans culottes that this country was built, and that they are beholden to you! Go forth and take back your Revolution!"

A primal roar of assent, emanating from the bellies of the mob and working their way up until it got out of their throats, greeted this. Weapons, both military-grade and handmade, clanged against each other. The torches came out. The sans culottes were on the march.


They marched through the streets of Paris, not really looting anything - this was not their style, after all, and shopkeepers were more likely than not to be one of them. They were focused. They were out for blood, ready to take back their revolution (from who, though, was never specified, nor was it thought about much), but they were focused. And, after about an hour's worth of walking and picking up even more like-minded people along the way, they had found their target.

BSmith was in his office, going over the latest reports of possible counterrevolutionaries and Royalist sympathizers from the various regions of France. Obviously Paris had the most - it was the biggest, after all, plus the most important - but nowhere in France was truly safe. The Vendée, in the midst of a nasty civil uprising, had its share, as did the problematic city of Lyon as well as most places in Brittany. Toulon, menaced by the British fleet, was another highlight. BSmith sighed. So much to do, so little time. Anybody who ever said that fomenting revolution was easy work was full of it, he decided.

As he pored over the papers and wrote down a few reports of his own, BSmith gradually became aware of an increasing noise that appeared to be drawing closer to him. At first he put it out of his mind, but as the volume only grew louder he finally put his papers down and made his way to a window.

Facing him was a giant mob, finally stopped after their long walk, torches held alight, weapons of all sorts raised, staring right back at him. The din stopped in an instant, now that the people realized that they were at their target. BSmith, meanwhile, paled. Him? Really him? It was probably him, he was the only person in this neighborhood who was a member of the Convention, at least to the best of his knowledge. But if him, why him? The sans culottes in the past had either targeted indiscriminately (like in the September Massacres) or else were at a member of the Royal family. What had BSmith possibly done to get this much attention from the people of Paris?

There was no sense in talking down the mob - after all, he had nothing to give them. There was also no sense in fighting - he couldn't guess their numbers, but knew there were a lot more of them then there was of him, plus they were armed. The best hope was to surrender immediately, throw himself on the mercy of the people of Paris, and try to sort things out later.

Gulping, he collected himself, walked away from the window, said a quick prayer, and then opened the front door, arms raised, ready to face the crowd.

It was a noble gesture, but a futile one. The sans culottes were not taking prisoners. BSmith was torn apart.


The work didn't take long. After about a minute or two of frenzy, the mob assembled outside BSmith's house cheered in victory upon the completion of their work. But they were not sated. After all, they had gathered this huge crowd, walked a decent portion of the city... all just for one man? Hadn't the speaker who had whipped up this mob told them to fully take back their Revolution? No, some of them reasoned. There was still work to be done.

The large crowd scattered in dozens of different groups, all going off and continuing their "takeback" in whichever way they saw best fit. Some of them went to taverns, deciding to liquor up before going elsewhere (or home). Some went to the fancy parts of town, looking to break into some houses and go through correspondences to see if there were any new Mirabeaus among the elite. Some went off in search of guards, looking to pick a fight. And some decided to just walk around, aiming to kill the first Convention member they came across.

This unlucky casualty of the wrath of the sans-culottes was Askthepizzaguy. Having attended the meeting of the Jacobin club earlier that night, he had lingered, wanting to discuss a private matter with one of the other members, and so was out on the streets when the mob came marching. Pizza heard them coming, took one look at their faces, and gulped. Unlike BSmith, he was under no such pretensions about what was about to happen, and he didn't spend any time particularly wondering about why.

He ran. He didn't have a particular destination in mind, perhaps one of the Parisian churches in hopes of invoking the ancient law of sanctuary, perhaps one of his friends' homes (or one of his enemies', if he judged a door and walls wouldn't stop the mob). In the meantime, though, he kept running, turning streets at random, hoping to just get away from the mob.

What Pizza didn't realize, though, was that this was not a unified mob. Had he come across the one large group earlier when they were going after BSmith, this would have been a good strategy. However, this was not earlier. Their initial purpose was broken. Now the people were just looking to kill at random. Now they were split into groups.

Rounding another corner, Pizza literally ran straight into a group of about a dozen. A few of them crumbled over in surprise, but more of them stayed on their feet, able to avoid the collision. They saw their companions rise and they also saw the newcomer, so pale and panicky, with the unmistakable dress and manner of someone who was in politics, who looked like he had been caught doing a very bad thing.

The last thing Askthepizzaguy saw was a set of eyes, full of righteous fury, illuminated by the glow of a torch.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

BSmith has been killed! He was: Jacques Nicolas Billaud-Varenne, a Montagnard!Not a Royalist.

Askthepizzaguy has been killed! He was: Charlotte Corday, a Girondin!Not a Royalist.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It is now Day 3!

Voting will end Thursday, March 16 at 1:00 PM US Eastern time (GMT-4).



Feedback will go out shortly.

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Still alive (15):
Al Sipsclar
autolycus
Choxorn
Csargo
Dp101
El Barto
Lewwyn
Manasi
Montmorency
NotACop
Renata
seireikhaan
Snerk
Winston Hughes
Zack

Killed:
Fenn
Monstrdude
Logic
Kagemusha
Arakhor
BSmith
Askthepizzaguy

Guillotined:
Jabbz
atheotes

[Winston Hughes]

Peut-être que vous êtes tous des scums.

[Montmorency]

Alright, who killed BSmith? He was one of the best of us.

[Renata]

We didn't kill anybody.

[Montmorency]

And some decided to just walk around, aiming to kill the first Convention member they came across.

Going by this writeup, I suspect Mafia activated some special ability that would kill townies randomly, e.g. Incite Riot or whatever.

[Zack]

Going by this writeup, I suspect Mafia activated some special ability that would kill townies randomly, e.g. Incite Riot or whatever.

Nope.

[Montmorency]

Did you do it, then?

Vote: Winston

[Renata]

vote: Winston

Bon soir, mon cher.

[Winston Hughes]

Did you do it, then?

Vote: Winston

Can you give me a reason?

[Renata]

Vote: Winston Hughes

[Montmorency]

Whatever other people's reason is.

[Renata]

I don't know about Monty, but I gots one.

Sooh was scummy, lol.

[Winston Hughes]

Yeah, she was. But I'm not.

[Zack]

Did you do it, then?

Vote: Winston

Not intentionally.

[Zack]

Vote: Csargo

[Montmorency]

Not intentionally.

What does that mean?

[Dp101]

Going by this writeup, I suspect Mafia activated some special ability that would kill townies randomly, e.g. Incite Riot or whatever.

Is it normal for there to be clues in the writeup like that? As in, is this kind of analysis something we should have been doing the whole game?

[Montmorency]

By the way, I consider auto lock clear for his performance yesterday. Don't touch him.

[Zack]

What does that mean?

:clown::creep::laugh4:

[Winston Hughes]

Vote: Csargo

Why?

[Zack]

Why?

Would you prefer Snerk?

[Winston Hughes]

Would you prefer Snerk?

Between those who are in the poe right now, I have yet to arrive at any preference.

That's why I'd like to know your reasons.

[Zack]

Between those who are in the poe right now, I have yet to arrive at any preference.

That's why I'd like to know your reasons.

:shrug:

[Montmorency]

My faction holstered last night. Which individuals acted?

[Dp101]

Personally, I feel like omgusing all over the place. Seemed like the majority of cases against me were "he voted a royalist to save his faction mate", which I know is an oversimplification, but it doesn't change how weak the case was and is.

[Montmorency]

Personally, I feel like omgusing all over the place. Seemed like the majority of cases against me were "he voted a royalist to save his faction mate", which I know is an oversimplification, but it doesn't change how weak the case was and is.

Do you have any opinions other than OMGUS?

[Dp101]

Do you have any opinions other than OMGUS?

Atheotes lynch was not really the best option, would have preferred Barto or Nac. I have poor connection currently, will elaborate later.

[Snerk]

vote: NotACop

But either Winston shines or Winston swings.

[Zack]

Why's everyone so gung-ho on Winston? He just subbed in for someone who was absent. Did Sooh even post?

[Manasi]

Yeah Sooh posted a few times iirc.

I'd feel more comfortable with Snerk f w i w .


But I'm not gonna be around super often today just because exam etc.


SHEEP ME ZACK

[Snerk]

Holy crap!

3 royalists already! How many are there in the setup? 4? 5? We must be close to eliminating them already!
Scummy post is scummy.

[Montmorency]

Unvote: Winston

Worst case for today, lynch Barto. He's not active anyway.

[Winston Hughes]

vote: NotACop

But either Winston shines or Winston swings.

I have no whiskey, so shining is out of the question.

Couple of beers in the fridge, though, so I might get a faint glimmer on later this evening.

[Snerk]

I have no whiskey, so shining is out of the question.

Couple of beers in the fridge, though, so I might get a faint glimmer on later this evening.
No dice. Gimme full blown spangly glitter Winston!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay, had to run a couple of errands. Post 2 is now updated with the latest info. I'll have the first tally out soon-ish.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Why's everyone so gung-ho on Winston? He just subbed in for someone who was absent. Did Sooh even post?

Edit validity confirmed.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Tally as of post 882.

Winston Hughes: 1 | Renata (856)
Csargo: 1 | Zack (861)
NotACop: 1 | Snerk (874)

Round ends:

[Winston Hughes]

No dice. Gimme full blown spangly glitter Winston!

Hmm. I've got a couple rocks of crack I found in Visor's jacket (it's about three years old, but crack doesn't go off does it?)

Let's see if that helps...

[Winston Hughes]

Hmm. I've got a couple rocks of crack I found in Visor's jacket (it's about three years old, but crack doesn't go off does it?)

Let's see if that helps...

Nope. Turns out he just has really bad dandruff. :sweatdrop:

[Snerk]

Al Sipsclar: Inactive. Lynchworhty
Autolycus: Kinda inactive. Lynchworthy from my POV
Choxorn: A little bit scummy d1 IMO but I find myself agreeing with his stuff now.
Csargo: Null. So kinda scummy then?
Dp101: Top pick for scummy bus vote d1.
El Barto: Lynchworhty. Is within town meta though.
Lewwyn: On Jabbz wagon so town for now.
Manasi: Makes random-y snipe on Arakhor. But is town due to d1 I guess?
Montmorency: Kinda running the show in my faction. Perhaps my top pick for scum within the faction for the Jabbz thing. But also if town then easily MVP in faction. So yeah.
NotACop: A fair lynch from my POV
Renata: Town I guess.
Seireikhaan: On Jabbz wagon so town for now too.
Winston Hughes: Sooh was scummy.
Zack: Disagrees with 98,76% of posts. Says Auto is important, doesn’t elaborate. Says BSmith wasn’t scum killed, doesn’t elaborate. Says NEVER go to basement on tuesdays, doesn’t elaborate. Town though?


Nope. Turns out he just has really bad dandruff. :sweatdrop:
Don't you know? Visor dandruff will get completely :daisy:'ed. Enjoy your ride.

[Snerk]

^*will get you

[Winston Hughes]

I've scanned the whole thread, but only read properly up to post 585.

I'll read the rest a bit later, but here's where my reads are at:

Renata - town or wtf
Zack - town or wtf
Manasi - very townie
khaan - seems safe
Lewwyn - check this again
Dp101 - check this again

chox - post 556, 558 etc look townie
Al Sips - post 558 pizza gives town reason
Snerk - post 574 monty gives town reason, post 582 renata gives town reason
Barto - post 582 renata gives town reason

Auto - getting towncred from others, not clear on reasons
Monty - ditto

NAC - probable scum
Csargo - probable scum

[Montmorency]

Can you elaborate on khaan vs. Lewwyn?

[Dp101]

Decent reads.

[Winston Hughes]

Can you elaborate on khaan vs. Lewwyn?

I looked pretty closely at khaan's accusation of Jabbz because I'd caught scummy vibes when skimming in the first place, but on the re-read it doesn't look like bussing to me.

With Lewwyn, I was leaning strong town after the flip, but something caught my attention about him later on. Don't know what it was, but I want to take another look.

[Montmorency]

I looked pretty closely at khaan's accusation of Jabbz because I'd caught scummy vibes when skimming in the first place, but on the re-read it doesn't look like bussing to me.

With Lewwyn, I was leaning strong town after the flip, but something caught my attention about him later on. Don't know what it was, but I want to take another look.

How do you factor the timing?

[Winston Hughes]

How do you factor the timing?

Of the their votes on Jabbz?

I guess the timing of khaan's might have been part of why I got scum vibes on the skim. Didn't feel so bad when I read closer, probably because I paid more attention to the argument behind the vote.

Lewwyn's I'll need to look at again (I can't actually recall if he was first on the wagon, or just the earliest not to shift away).

[Montmorency]

Of the their votes on Jabbz?

I guess the timing of khaan's might have been part of why I got scum vibes on the skim. Didn't feel so bad when I read closer, probably because I paid more attention to the argument behind the vote.

Lewwyn's I'll need to look at again (I can't actually recall if he was first on the wagon, or just the earliest not to shift away).

Here's what happened with Jabbz before the EOD.

Early in the day, Renata voted Jabbz, followed immediately by Zack ("gg"). Soon after, their attention shifted. Jabbz had no votes until 16 hours into the day, when Lewwyn protested Jabbz comments on Pizza's logic and lean-list and voted him. Around a full day into the phase, Khaan voted Jabbz. Later, in the runup to EOD, Jabbz made a weird set of posts and voted Manasi. This is what prompted Zack to vote Jabbz.

I don't think both Lewwyn and Khaan could be on the level.

[Winston Hughes]

Here's what happened with Jabbz before the EOD.

Early in the day, Renata voted Jabbz, followed immediately by Zack ("gg"). Soon after, their attention shifted. Jabbz had no votes until 16 hours into the day, when Lewwyn protested Jabbz comments on Pizza's logic and lean-list and voted him. Around a full day into the phase, Khaan voted Jabbz. Later, in the runup to EOD, Jabbz made a weird set of posts and voted Manasi. This is what prompted Zack to vote Jabbz.

I don't think both Lewwyn and Khaan could be on the level.

Can you explain the last part?

I'm not following the logic.

[Montmorency]

Can you explain the last part?

I'm not following the logic.

One tangle: Zack was actually on Jabbz until Lewwyn voted him, at which he voted Lewwyn - and then came the vote back onto Jabbz for voting Manasi.

Now, what I find about Khaan is that he is playing his scum-lurk, where he pops in once-in-a-while to make a lofty post or two on a topic with moderate-high attention, then disappears. His vote on Jabbz shouldn't count as clearing, given how it came a day before time and we can't compare to any EOD activity, since he had none.

[Winston Hughes]

One tangle: Zack was actually on Jabbz until Lewwyn voted him, at which he voted Lewwyn - and then came the vote back onto Jabbz for voting Manasi.

Now, what I find about Khaan is that he is playing his scum-lurk, where he pops in once-in-a-while to make a lofty post or two on a topic with moderate-high attention, then disappears. His vote on Jabbz shouldn't count as clearing, given how it came a day before time and we can't compare to any EOD activity, since he had none.

That doesn't explain why they couldn't both be on the level, though.

[Zack]

One tangle: Zack was actually on Jabbz until Lewwyn voted him, at which he voted Lewwyn - and then came the vote back onto Jabbz for voting Manasi.

Now, what I find about Khaan is that he is playing his scum-lurk, where he pops in once-in-a-while to make a lofty post or two on a topic with moderate-high attention, then disappears. His vote on Jabbz shouldn't count as clearing, given how it came a day before time and we can't compare to any EOD activity, since he had none.
Is this directly relating to how he played in Futurama?

[Zack]

Decent reads.
What was the case against him again? Sooh was quiet or something?

[Winston Hughes]

I've trebled our postcount already.

[Montmorency]

Is this directly relating to how he played in Futurama?

Well, that's the most recent scum game of his I participated in.

[Zack]

Well, that's the most recent scum game of his I participated in.
Is that a yes?

How were his posting/bussing tendencies in that game? I have my own recollection but I'd like to hear yours, since you were a teammate and I wasn't always following the game that closely. :creep:

[Winston Hughes]

I don't think both Lewwyn and Khaan could be on the level.

I'm still not getting how you reached this conclusion, Monty.

[Zack]

No thoughts on Sooh, but I've felt pretty comfortable with Winston from his posts in thread and the QT.

[Zack]

No thoughts on Sooh, but I've felt pretty comfortable with Winston from his posts in thread and the QT.

in him not being a Royalist, that is

[Winston Hughes]

Yeah, reckon I'm C+ for towniness right now, solid B if you can see the qt.

To reach the higher grades, I'll need to get my reading hat back on, but right now I'm enjoying myself too much finally getting the chance to post.

[Montmorency]

(Winston, it's my personal estimation. Of course they could both be town.)

Zack, in both games there would be about the same number of posts to look at. Khaan didn't say much in QT then, he isn't saying much now. Hard to get a broad analysis with this little content, so better to look for unique elements. First, here are Khaan's posts in this game.



Hello, everyone, I'd like to welcome you to another day of "the joys of lynching." If this is your first time with us, then I personally invite you to grab your torches and pitchforks and deliver some justice along with the rest us. Over the next few days, we'll go over a variety of tactics to flush out royalists, and with any luck, we'll make this a nice, quick game. So, thanks for joining us, and let us get started. Now, I have to say, my first thought here is that NotACop is looking pretty suspicious. The fedora is, secretly, a sign of the royal family, and boy that sure makes me think that he must be looking to find some unsavory friends with a post like that.

Vote: NotACop

Right after NAC comes into the thread voting Manasi.


So folks, here we have a nice little case of what we'll call "wifom". Now I don't see this back and forth meaning all that much, and it's always a happy time to be with Askthepizzaguy and Renata, so I'm not going to vote on this, but if this is the sort of thing that makes you feeling just a bit paranoid, feel free to start votes on either one.

On Pizza-Renata links. "Feel free to start votes on either one".


Well now there's no need to be washing our hands until we've settled on a lynch. Of course you don't want the blood to get stained into the skin, but I don't think we'll be doing any scrubbing until our first mislynch. Unless we feel like getting real crazy and start mixing our colors. Hmm, you know, that might be a good idea, actually, but we'll be wanting to play that by ear, I think.

To Renata after response to previous post


So here we are, friends, with what looks like it could be a real example of a royalist being paranoid of looking like they were on the bandwagon of an innocent townsperson. Your average mafia will not want to be on the day one lynch, because if that comes up as an innocent, it'll be the first place we go barging in to beat the nillies out of people. So, I think I'll go ahead and slide my vote on over here, and I'll encourage all of you to think about this for yourselves and see how it rings to you.


Unvote: NotACop
Vote: Jabbz

Particularly striking language in this post. And similar language to the case he didn't pursue against Renata: "I'll encourage all of you to think about this for yourselves..."


Hello again everyone, and welcome back to day two of "The Joys of Lynching". Last time we nabbed ourselves a royalist, an excellent start. I'm going to go ahead this round and Vote: Dp101. Now, I've played my share as mafia in the past, and especially with results on death, I can tell you that DP's vote at the end of the day doesn't look great to me. Some might call it a sealing vote for a royalist, but to me, that looks like a good old fashioned, meaningless late bus to try and give some cover.

Case against DP on Day 2.


Well not to be the bearer of bad news, but the timing speaks for itself. Even if this was a rock solid stroke of logic, it wouldn't mean a whole lot because the actual vote speaks a heckuva lot louder.

???


So far in this game Khaan hasn't really spoken to anyone directly, or been asked of much. Without presenting all his Futuramafia posts, I can note a big difference in Khaan's play (9 posts) came from his being directly engaged by vig virtuoso CrimsonFox (who later vigged Khaan). Crimson was aggressive and Khaan was a bit pissed off, saying he didn't really think Crimson was scum but his attitude justified a vote.

Here is a bit from (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152111-Futuramafia-Concluded&p=2053714021&viewfull=1#post2053714021) one of Khaan's biggest posts, going back and forth on Crimson and some random other stuff (Pizza and I were his partners).


Anyways, I'm starting to wonder if I didn't psych myself out on Fox. My initial gut still says he's too brazen to be mafia. But, then again, I've always said that the best way to play scum roles is to do that which the gut wouldn't believe. Another part of me wants to lynch him just to hopefully reduce the postcount a bit so I don't have so much catching up to do after work. But mostly, now I'm really not liking this flip flopping on your potential role. To reiterate Barto: Are you a vig, or are you not? That claim towards the end of the round... as I said earlier, brazen, especially with possible mafia buds to bus you. But, if you're neutral/independent, then that makes a lot more sense. Screw it,

Vote: CrimsonFox


I see his style so far in this game as closer to Futuramafia than Visor's Small Game, once you look past the artistic flair. It's more a case against town-reading Khan than for lynching him today.

[Winston Hughes]

(Winston, it's my personal estimation. Of course they could both be town.)

Personal estimation based on what?

[Montmorency]

Personal estimation based on what?

Town lean on Lewwyn, scum lean on Khaan. Vanishingly-small odds that both are scum. Given my leans, I feel one being scum is more likely than both being town. This is pretty plain. Are you thinking of something in particular?

[Winston Hughes]

Town lean on Lewwyn, scum lean on Khaan. Vanishingly-small odds that both are scum. Given my leans, I feel one being scum is more likely than both being town. This is pretty plain. Are you thinking of something in particular?

Why the scum lean on khaan?

[Montmorency]

Why the scum lean on khaan?

Tone, and what he chooses to talk about in his few posts.

[Winston Hughes]

I still don't get how you ended up linking the reads on them.

I see how one being scum makes it very unlikely the other is scum too, but I don't see how one being town makes the other one much more likely to be scum, given the number of other suspects available.

[Winston Hughes]

How many scum do you think there are?

[Snerk]

Look at the shine!!

[Winston Hughes]

Aye, the v-man's dandruff is magic. :verycool:

[Montmorency]

but I don't see how one being town makes the other one much more likely to be scum, given the number of other suspects available.

That's not the impression I sought to convey.


How many scum do you think there are?

Without getting lost in the thought, my opinion is 25% 4, 50% 5, 25% 6 scum.

[Winston Hughes]

That's not the impression I sought to convey.

It's hard not to read that from the words you used.

[Winston Hughes]

Other than the obvious, who's town for you?

[seireikhaan]

Welcome back to our third day of "The Joys of Lynching". Unfortunately, we weren't quite on the ball last time, but I'm sure we'll make up for it this time. Now, I don't have a whole lot to tell you, Montmorency. I myself wanted a DP101 lynch yesterday, and I still want one today. That's my priority. Divulging the rest of my thoughts doesn't mean a whole lot in my opinion. I still think his vote day 1 amounts to a late, meaningless bus. He didn't need to vote, and to be plain, could have stayed asleep for all the difference it made. His most recent post doesn't strike me with any great degree of town either.

Vote: DP101

[Winston Hughes]

Welcome back to our third day of "The Joys of Lynching". Unfortunately, we weren't quite on the ball last time, but I'm sure we'll make up for it this time. Now, I don't have a whole lot to tell you, Montmorency. I myself wanted a DP101 lynch yesterday, and I still want one today. That's my priority. Divulging the rest of my thoughts doesn't mean a whole lot in my opinion. I still think his vote day 1 amounts to a late, meaningless bus. He didn't need to vote, and to be plain, could have stayed asleep for all the difference it made. His most recent post doesn't strike me with any great degree of town either.

Vote: DP101

What do you think of Monty?

[Montmorency]

It's hard not to read that from the words you used.

:shrug: If they're portrayed as linked, perhaps it's because they are in the sense of being in my faction.


Other than the obvious, who's town for you?

Manasi, Renata, Zack are obvious. Other than that, the only strong town-lean is Choxorn, then Al Sipsclar. From there, Snerk, Lewwyn, Barto on special circumstance...

You and auto are in temporary abeyance until further information presents itself.

[seireikhaan]

What do you think of Monty?
Afraid I don't have a great handle on our friend right now. I'll need to reread again with a better focus on him.

[Winston Hughes]

:shrug: If they're portrayed as linked, perhaps it's because they are in the sense of being in my faction.

It's a small point, obviously, but I've got to give you a scum mark for making that link, because I can more easily see how a scum mind goes there than a town one.


Manasi, Renata, Zack are obvious. Other than that, the only strong town-lean is Choxorn, then Al Sipsclar. From there, Snerk, Lewwyn, Barto on special circumstance...

You and auto are in temporary abeyance until further information presents itself.

Reason for Al Sips riding so high?

[Zack]

pizza vouched for al sips

[Winston Hughes]

pizza vouched for al sips

Yeah, I probably should finish catching up.

[Csargo]

Fwiw I agree with Monty about khan.

Leave me alone Zack.

[Montmorency]

pizza vouched for al sips

Also, he's done good town-Sips posting since then.

[Montmorency]

Reason for Al Sips riding so high?

Wait a second, you have Al Sipsclar about the same tier as I do.

[Winston Hughes]

Fwiw I agree with Monty about khan.

Yeah, the latest contributions are not reassuring.

Really ought to be able to give some kind of a read on Monty.

[Montmorency]

Wait a second, you have Al Sipsclar about the same tier as I do.


I've scanned the whole thread, but only read properly up to post 585.

I'll read the rest a bit later, but here's where my reads are at:

Renata - town or wtf
Zack - town or wtf
Manasi - very townie
khaan - seems safe
Lewwyn - check this again
Dp101 - check this again

chox - post 556, 558 etc look townie
Al Sips - post 558 pizza gives town reason
Snerk - post 574 monty gives town reason, post 582 renata gives town reason
Barto - post 582 renata gives town reason

Auto - getting towncred from others, not clear on reasons
Monty - ditto

NAC - probable scum
Csargo - probable scum

And you already knew what Pizza said about Al.

[Winston Hughes]

Wait a second, you have Al Sipsclar about the same tier as I do.

Yeah, that was just me being dumb. Forgot who vouched for who and why.

It was the last part I read before sleep last night, which is why I kept the post numbers in my notes.

[autolycus]

Day 3 bucketing from my perspective

Me

Almost Certainly Republican :
Zack
Manasi
Renata
al sipsclar
Montmorency

Leaning Republican:
Winston: Feels like normal town-Winston ramping up
Snerk: People are vouching for him, and
Choxorn: Activity level fairly typical for choxorn, decent content

Toss-up:
El Barto- Was away at the beginning, but doesn't seem to really be back. Too little to read, but we do have Renata's post
Lewwyn- First vote on Jabbz, but otherwise a null read for me.
NotACop-Similar dp101 vendetta to khaan. I don't have a baseline history with him, so it's hard for me to read his tone.

Leaning Royal:
dp101-Last vote on the bandwagon Day 1, can read that either way. Seems a little over-sensitive. I want to see the "elaborate later" he promised
khaan- His tone feels a bit off, but his analysis is decent. If we have multiple Royalists left, I think one of dp101 and him is Royal
Csargo- Fairly frequent posts, but saying remarkably little





Vote: Csargo

[Choxorn]

Not intentionally.

So, what did you do intentionally, then?

[Montmorency]

So, what did you do intentionally, then?

Sounds like he killed my BSmith, and for some reason also Pizza. Just, ah, don't revenge yourselves upon him, please. There will be redress in time.

[Renata]

Welcome back to our third day of "The Joys of Lynching". Unfortunately, we weren't quite on the ball last time, but I'm sure we'll make up for it this time. Now, I don't have a whole lot to tell you, Montmorency. I myself wanted a DP101 lynch yesterday, and I still want one today. That's my priority. Divulging the rest of my thoughts doesn't mean a whole lot in my opinion. I still think his vote day 1 amounts to a late, meaningless bus. He didn't need to vote, and to be plain, could have stayed asleep for all the difference it made. His most recent post doesn't strike me with any great degree of town either.

Vote: DP101

I keep telling you slimy people that he said something in our QT at the time he voted which directly contradicts the idea that he was bussing. You choose not to listen to me. Now why's that, Khaan?

[Dp101]

I think I'll Vote: NAC. His tone has been very weird and off, and the majority of his posts just haven't felt like they have come from a townie following the thread. Plus, I reread some of his scum games when playing with him recently, and they seem to match up with this decently.

[Choxorn]

I'd prefer it if we didn't lynch NAC, our faction is already one member smaller than everyone else's. There's several other perfectly good suspects.

[Dp101]

I'd prefer it if we didn't lynch NAC, our faction is already one member smaller than everyone else's. There's several other perfectly good suspects.

Who'd you rather I go after?

[seireikhaan]

I keep telling you slimy people that he said something in our QT at the time he voted which directly contradicts the idea that he was bussing. You choose not to listen to me. Now why's that, Khaan?
Ross/off

Because I either missed it or forgot. I truthfully got bored in the thread for much of the first couple days because my shitpost limit was very quickly reached so I started skimming. Either way, you saying that straight up doesn't mean *anything* to me. Seriously. You're basically telling me to trust your word that you trust DP's word in a place I CAN'T SEE. So deal.

[Csargo]

Ross/off

Because I either missed it or forgot. I truthfully got bored in the thread for much of the first couple days because my shitpost limit was very quickly reached so I started skimming. Either way, you saying that straight up doesn't mean *anything* to me. Seriously. You're basically telling me to trust your word that you trust DP's word in a place I CAN'T SEE. So deal.

Is that all you got?

At this point all I see is lists with me at the bottom. I can't defend myself ggwp.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Tally as of post 940. Please correct me if there are any errors.

Csargo: 2 | Zack (861), autolycus (932)
NotACop: 2 | Snerk (874), Dp101 (936)
Winston Hughes: 1 | Renata (856)
Dp101: 1 | seireikhaan (919)

Round ends:

[El Barto]

Personally, I feel like omgusing all over the place. Seemed like the majority of cases against me were "he voted a royalist to save his faction mate", which I know is an oversimplification, but it doesn't change how weak the case was and is.
You know, I always get lynched when I always OMGUS people. Lacking any better leads (I don't want a Csargowaggon for scum to hide when I haven't read most of his posts), vote: Dp101

Unvote: Winston

Worst case for today, lynch Barto. He's not active anyway.
I've decided not to say anything when I have nothing to say.

Nope. Turns out he just has really bad dandruff. :sweatdrop:
That is either a cunning Discworld reference or you've had some interesting experiences.

Is that all you got?

At this point all I see is lists with me at the bottom. I can't defend myself ggwp.
You… can try to provide something.

…

…

Can't you?

[Dp101]

So, you are voting me because you die when you OMGUS? And how was what I said in any way a lead.

[El Barto]

Let's see. I have limited time to post, given Citoyen Foulard's curious end-of-day times. At the moment, your best bet seems to be to wait around for somebody to vote you and then vote you back. Why aren't you voting for either me or 'khaan, rather than NotACop? I got roasted for voting NotACop yesterday. You explain it. I'll be off to RL soon, so my vote stays where it is.

[El Barto]

I've trebled our postcount already.
‘Our’?

[Al Sipsclar]

I like Winston so far.


WHat the hell do you want me to say? I woke up 5 minutes before EOD, saw that my faction mate was second and that they made a post I didn't think they would make as mafia, and voted the counterwagon! Seriously, do you lot expect me to vote in my sleep or something? Cause every single one of these scumreads is focused on when I voted, which was entirely due to out of game factors like where I live.


I keep telling you slimy people that he said something in our QT at the time he voted which directly contradicts the idea that he was bussing. You choose not to listen to me. Now why's that, Khaan?

So, he woke up 5 minutes before EOD and had the composure to vote AND to say something in your QT? And how can something contradict an idea of bussing?

[Dp101]

I like Winston so far.


So, he woke up 5 minutes before EOD and had the composure to vote AND to say something in your QT? And how can something contradict an idea of bussing?

Why do you find it unbelievable that I would have gone to check the game and post that quickly? Also, the thing that contradicts bussing was laid out earlier, but essentially I said that I was voting Jabbz even though I thought he was town, just because he was the counterwagon to a lynch in my faction. There is no reason I would ever say something like that if I was hunting for towncred for a bus.

[Al Sipsclar]

There is no reason I would ever say something like that if I was hunting for towncred for a bus.

Pure WIFOM.

[Al Sipsclar]

By the way, I consider auto lock clear for his performance yesterday. Don't touch him.

What is so exemplary of Auto's performance? Here's full, unabridged collection of his works:


I vote:NotACop. His name is clearly trying to mask his previous time as a gendarme serving the Bourbons, who continue to be his true masters!


I'm enjoying this version of Renata too much to want to see her exit so soon. I haven't gotten to play with Manasi before, so unvote, vote: Bsmith as a counterwagon!


Sorry I was away for the first half of this day. The other populists can confirm that I said I was going to be away for the latter half of the night, and that carried over to the first half of the day.



If you look at the order of the votes, you'll see that the second vote on Jabbz happenedafter I voted for BSmith, so he wasn't on my radar at the time. I didn't vote for Montmorency, because especially on day 1, a bunch of votes in quick succession can go from pressure to bandwagon in no time flat. He and Renata are welcome to think my rationale for counterwagoning away from Renata was bogus, but it was the truth. Renata playing an extra out there style of play was interesting to me.

In terms of my suspicions, Arakhor is part of my faction. He does seem more faction-focused than scum-hunting, but I won't pile on there yet. If there's a populist scum, he would be my pick. Both NotACop and atheotes need to wake up. Of the people who are actually talking, I'm actually probably most suspicious of vote: Montmorency. The defense of Snerk is persuasive, but it begs the question, "Why was Jabbz the higher priority save?". Also, missing the order of vote is not a mistake I would expect from Montmorency.


I'd like to see unvote, vote: Sooh go on the record. I'll check again in the morning, and assuming Sooh's taken a position, I'll make a decision among the likely candidates at that time.


I'm fine with this, but given the time constraints, I'd flip the two around. unvote: Winston Hughes, vote:atheotes



Day 3 bucketing from my perspective

Me

Almost Certainly Republican :
Zack
Manasi
Renata
al sipsclar
Montmorency

Leaning Republican:
Winston: Feels like normal town-Winston ramping up
Snerk: People are vouching for him, and
Choxorn: Activity level fairly typical for choxorn, decent content

Toss-up:
El Barto- Was away at the beginning, but doesn't seem to really be back. Too little to read, but we do have Renata's post
Lewwyn- First vote on Jabbz, but otherwise a null read for me.
NotACop-Similar dp101 vendetta to khaan. I don't have a baseline history with him, so it's hard for me to read his tone.

Leaning Royal:
dp101-Last vote on the bandwagon Day 1, can read that either way. Seems a little over-sensitive. I want to see the "elaborate later" he promised
khaan- His tone feels a bit off, but his analysis is decent. If we have multiple Royalists left, I think one of dp101 and him is Royal
Csargo- Fairly frequent posts, but saying remarkably little





Vote: Csargo


Joke vote NAC, voted BSmith over Manasi, said Jabbz was not on his radar, shaded Arakhor, nudged NAC and atheotes, voted Monty, voted Sooh, voted atheotes, put Monty in the top tier, shaded dp and khaan, voted Csargo.

[Csargo]

You… can try to provide something.

…

…

Can't you?

Oh sorry I forgot to add my list.

Al Sipsclar
autolycus
Choxorn
Csargo
Dp101
El Barto
Lewwyn
Manasi
Montmorency
NotACop
Renata
seireikhaan
Snerk
Winston Hughes
Zack

I know it looks suspiciously like GH's, but I swear that's just a coincidence.

I have provided substance I think along with some random fluff. I can give a detailed list of what I think at this point.

Al Sipsclar - ATPG vouched for him; ATPG = town; seems good
autolycus - quiet, Zack said mechanically important(?); factional ties(?) not sure, no reason to believe it.
Choxorn - legit
Csargo - terrible
Dp101 - a real go-getter that one
El Barto - less than ideal amount to look through, but recent candid posts make me think town;
Lewwyn - dunno
Manasi- a lot going on there, I haven't gotten any bad vibes/reads.
Montmorency- had an off feeling about him the whole game. Day 1 especially with Snerk and everything else. Seems better now, but still.
NAC- Didn't like the reads posted thought they were off, haven't really liked the content or timings of posts.
Renata - the best around
seireikhaan - roleplaying entire game basically doesn't look good. minimal posts, only positive is Jabbz vote at this point, but I don't put much weight on that. Highly likely scum imo.
Snerk - Monty vouched for him being for Jabbz lynch(?) responses were good when questioned about it imo
Winston Hughes - Thought Sooh was sketchy, Winston has seemed excellent so far
Zack - dunno, I doubt the autolycus story; don't think he's nearly as townie as everyone else apparently.

Vote:seireikhaan

Basically khaan, NAC are my top two.

[Dp101]

Pure WIFOM.

It goes counter to the entire purpose of a bus, and you call that action WIFOM as to whether or not I would do it? It feels like you are disregarding anything that could clear me, and are just going after me regardless of what my alignment might be. Vote: Al Sipsclar

[Al Sipsclar]

I'd like to find what are you doing for town, Dp. So far, you're only defending yourself.

[Csargo]

What is so exemplary of Auto's performance? Here's full, unabridged collection of his works:















Joke vote NAC, voted BSmith over Manasi, said Jabbz was not on his radar, shaded Arakhor, nudged NAC and atheotes, voted Monty, voted Sooh, voted atheotes, put Monty in the top tier, shaded dp and khaan, voted Csargo.

Yeah, I agree with this, Monty's post doesn't make any sense to me. Don't know what he's talking about.

[Dp101]

I'd like to find what are you doing for town, Dp. So far, you're only defending yourself.

I voted mafia, and then I am going after those who are voting me because of it, because there votes have been scummy. What more do you want, other than me going after those I think have been acting scummily? A full reads list? Actually, let me go do that real quick.

[Csargo]

I voted mafia, and then I am going after those who are voting me because of it, because there votes have been scummy. What more do you want, other than me going after those I think have been acting scummily? A full reads list? Actually, let me go do that real quick.

Lists are the way apparently.

Also, fwiw this is classic scum khaan if I've ever seen it. I'd be shocked if he was town at this point. With the little bit and all, plus with what Monty posted earlier it all matches up for me.

[Dp101]

Copying the master list of living people from GH, as is tradition

Al Sipsclar
autolycus
Choxorn
Csargo
Dp101
El Barto
Lewwyn
Manasi
Montmorency
NotACop
Renata
seireikhaan
Snerk
Winston Hughes
Zack

Out of these, I'd place Renata, Lew, Zack, Chox, Manasi at the top, in no particular order. Most of these are due to good tone, cases, and D1 events. Kinda null for me currently is Snerk, Csargo, and Auto. They haven't done that much great, but also don't feel that them being town is that unlikely. Winston gets his own spot, as while his posting has been good the slot he replaced wasn't that great. Willing to give him a chance for now. Monty also gets his own spot, because on reflection I have no idea what his early consistent pushing of me could actually mean. Lynchable pile goes Barto, Khaan, NAC, and AL. Most of these are here for varying degrees of incoherent posting + downright odd pushes on me. Yes, I am aware that NAC and Barto are incompatible, but I'm not sure which one to raise from the depths.
No doubt I've contradicted about half of my reads and cases in the course of making this list, but such is the price of organisation.

[Choxorn]

Pure WIFOM.

And, while he claims he wouldn't do that to get towncred, he has in fact gotten towncred for saying it, hasn't he?

If he's scum, and it's Jabbz vs. one of Dp's faction mates for the lynch earlier in the day and some other viable candidates for the lynch hanging in their vicinity, he could easily say something like that privately to his faction to try to get them to trust him a bit more- both saying that he's on the side of this faction, first and foremost, and will do what he can to avoid lynching someone in the faction, but he's also saying that he thinks his scumbuddy is town, because Dp doesn't actually want to lynch Jabbz if he can avoid it. Dp is hoping that he can push some other townie, like BSmith, into the lynch, so that he doesn't have to choose between his scumbuddy and someone in his faction, but if it comes down to it, as it did at EoD on Day 1, he can come in at the end, bus his scumbuddy without looking like he's bussing his scumbuddy, and get lots of towncred and faction cred for it.

[Dp101]

And, while he claims he wouldn't do that to get towncred, he has in fact gotten towncred for saying it, hasn't he?

If he's scum, and it's Jabbz vs. one of Dp's faction mates for the lynch earlier in the day and some other viable candidates for the lynch hanging in their vicinity, he could easily say something like that privately to his faction to try to get them to trust him a bit more- both saying that he's on the side of this faction, first and foremost, and will do what he can to avoid lynching someone in the faction, but he's also saying that he thinks his scumbuddy is town, because Dp doesn't actually want to lynch Jabbz if he can avoid it. Dp is hoping that he can push some other townie, like BSmith, into the lynch, so that he doesn't have to choose between his scumbuddy and someone in his faction, but if it comes down to it, as it did at EoD on Day 1, he can come in at the end, bus his scumbuddy without looking like he's bussing his scumbuddy, and get lots of towncred and faction cred for it.

Ah, point of clarification (although you might have taken this into account and I missed it in the wall), the post expressing Jabbz's towniness came a minute after my vote, so the long-term setup/hedging did not occur.

[Choxorn]

For what it's worth, Dp, I had you as a townlean before and I still think the cases against you are reaching a bit, but you're by no means lock clear.

Since all the cool kids are doing it:

Strong Town Leans:

Renata
Zack
Al Sipsclar
Manasi

Town Leans:
Lewwyn

Could be either/Null Leans:
Dp101
Winston Hughes
Snerk
Csargo
Montmorency
NotACop
seireikhaan

Scum Leans:
Autolycus
El Barto

[Choxorn]

Ah, point of clarification (although you might have taken this into account and I missed it in the wall), the post expressing Jabbz's towniness came a minute after my vote, so the long-term setup/hedging did not occur.

Ah, well, there goes some of my theory.

I could still see you saying something like that as scum just to mindgame, since you'd already know what Jabbz would flip as, but at this point I'd say "Dp is telling the truth" is more likely than "Dp is nextleveling us all and playing 4D Chess while we're all playing checkers"

I'll bump you back up to a moderate townlean.

[Choxorn]

Day 3 bucketing from my perspective

Me

Almost Certainly Republican :
Zack
Manasi
Renata
al sipsclar
Montmorency

Leaning Republican:
Winston: Feels like normal town-Winston ramping up
Snerk: People are vouching for him, and
Choxorn: Activity level fairly typical for choxorn, decent content

Toss-up:
El Barto- Was away at the beginning, but doesn't seem to really be back. Too little to read, but we do have Renata's post
Lewwyn- First vote on Jabbz, but otherwise a null read for me.
NotACop-Similar dp101 vendetta to khaan. I don't have a baseline history with him, so it's hard for me to read his tone.

Leaning Royal:
dp101-Last vote on the bandwagon Day 1, can read that either way. Seems a little over-sensitive. I want to see the "elaborate later" he promised
khaan- His tone feels a bit off, but his analysis is decent. If we have multiple Royalists left, I think one of dp101 and him is Royal
Csargo- Fairly frequent posts, but saying remarkably little





Vote: Csargo

This post sucks, and it's all Autolycus has said today. What he's saying about Csargo is accurate, but Csargo always posts like this, it's not really alignment-indicative for him. It's just picking at some really low-hanging fruit on Autolycus's part, and I don't get why Monty thinks he's so clear. At least with the other Populists, I can understand why they don't want to vote for their faction mate much like I don't want to vote for NAC, but Monty isn't a Populist.

[Dp101]

This post sucks, and it's all Autolycus has said today. What he's saying about Csargo is accurate, but Csargo always posts like this, it's not really alignment-indicative for him. It's just picking at some really low-hanging fruit on Autolycus's part, and I don't get why Monty thinks he's so clear. At least with the other Populists, I can understand why they don't want to vote for their faction mate much like I don't want to vote for NAC, but Monty isn't a Populist.

You can be a solid villager for this.

[Zack]

This post sucks, and it's all Autolycus has said today. What he's saying about Csargo is accurate, but Csargo always posts like this, it's not really alignment-indicative for him. It's just picking at some really low-hanging fruit on Autolycus's part, and I don't get why Monty thinks he's so clear. At least with the other Populists, I can understand why they don't want to vote for their faction mate much like I don't want to vote for NAC, but Monty isn't a Populist.

mechanics stuff

[Choxorn]

How delightfully vague.

And you still haven't explained much about what you guys did last night.

[Dp101]

Just so you all know, I'm going to be spending about half of today on planes, so might not have consistent thread presence.

[Montmorency]

It goes counter to the entire purpose of a bus, and you call that action WIFOM as to whether or not I would do it? It feels like you are disregarding anything that could clear me, and are just going after me regardless of what my alignment might be. [B]Vote: Al Sipsclar

*raises one eyebrow*

At some point, you have to step back from accusing everyone who suspects you.


What is so exemplary of Auto's performance?

Joke vote NAC, voted BSmith over Manasi, said Jabbz was not on his radar, shaded Arakhor, nudged NAC and atheotes, voted Monty, voted Sooh, voted atheotes, put Monty in the top tier, shaded dp and khaan, voted Csargo.


Yeah, I agree with this, Monty's post doesn't make any sense to me. Don't know what he's talking about.

I'm saying we need to trust Zack on this one. I have faith that Zack will show us the reasoning.


Ah, well, there goes some of my theory.

I could still see you saying something like that as scum just to mindgame, since you'd already know what Jabbz would flip as, but at this point I'd say "Dp is telling the truth" is more likely than "Dp is nextleveling us all and playing 4D Chess while we're all playing checkers"

I'll bump you back up to a moderate townlean.

The simplest explanation is that DP is telling the truth, in which case he could indeed still be scum - he could be scum-partner to Jabbz, find Jabbz townie, but feel the only option present is to vote Jabbz on the basis of both bussing and factionalism. This is really NAI and doesn't need a lot of your thought expended for it.

And I disagree on Barto, he's doing nothing wrong in particular, and has moderate circumstantial evidence in his favor. Only real reason to lynch him right now is because he's not useful.


This post sucks, and it's all Autolycus has said today. What he's saying about Csargo is accurate, but Csargo always posts like this, it's not really alignment-indicative for him. It's just picking at some really low-hanging fruit on Autolycus's part, and I don't get why Monty thinks he's so clear. At least with the other Populists, I can understand why they don't want to vote for their faction mate much like I don't want to vote for NAC, but Monty isn't a Populist.

Take it up with Zack.

[Csargo]

[B]

*raises one eyebrow*

At some point, you have to step back from accusing everyone who suspects you.





I'm saying we need to trust Zack on this one. I have faith that Zack will show us the reasoning.



The simplest explanation is that DP is telling the truth, in which case he could indeed still be scum - he could be scum-partner to Jabbz, find Jabbz townie, but feel the only option present is to vote Jabbz on the basis of both bussing and factionalism. This is really NAI and doesn't need a lot of your thought expended for it.

And I disagree on Barto, he's doing nothing wrong in particular, and has moderate circumstantial evidence in his favor. Only real reason to lynch him right now is because he's not useful.



Take it up with Zack.

I mean you can do whatever you like Monty, but at this point it looks suspiciously like he's just protecting faction mates. Which is fine, because everyone else is doing the same, but what he's saying could mean anything at this point.

[Winston Hughes]

Je veux vraiment du papier d'aluminium sur Zack pour les rires, mais je ne peux pas trouver une raison décente.

Quelqu'un m'aider ici?

[Dp101]

Je veux vraiment du papier d'aluminium sur Zack pour les rires, mais je ne peux pas trouver une raison décente.

Quelqu'un m'aider ici?

I don't think that there is any reason to want that.

[Manasi]

Manasi- a lot going on there, I haven't gotten any bad vibes/reads.


Story of my life.


I actually kinda forgot I was playing this oops.


I'll be back ITT in like 10 mintues brb.

[Al Sipsclar]

Je veux vraiment du papier d'aluminium sur Zack pour les rires, mais je ne peux pas trouver une raison décente.

Quelqu'un m'aider ici?

Zack en papier d'alu - c'est plus savoureuse!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Tally as of post 971.

Csargo: 2 | Zack (861), autolycus (932)
Dp101: 2 | seireikhaan (919), El Barto (942)
Winston Hughes: 1 | Renata (856)
NotACop: 1 | Snerk (874)
Al Sipsclar: 1 | Dp101 (951)

Round ends:

[Winston Hughes]

So I do have some whiskey this evening, but it is to be consumed with ginger, honey and lemon.

Bastard virus has gone and blindsided me on the first warm day of the year, and now my throat feels like I've been snorting hessian.

Still, if it gets bad enough by the morning, I might have to stay off work tomorrow and thus be around for eod.

[Montmorency]

Tally as of post 971.

Csargo: 2 | Zack (861), autolycus (932)
Dp101: 2 | seireikhaan (919), El Barto (942)
Winston Hughes: 1 | Renata (856)
NotACop: 1 | Snerk (874)
Al Sipsclar: 1 | Dp101 (951)

Round ends:


You missed Khaan: 1 | Csargo (950). :whip:

[Montmorency]

Why do you hate Csargo's votes?

[Winston Hughes]

Owing to laziness and distraction, I still haven't fully caught up, but I'll do that now.

As a consequence of his weak performance today and the testimony from Monty (who, for all my poking, came off pretty townie in our exchanges), I'm moving khaan into the lynchable category, along with NAC and Csargo.

Whether anyone else ends up there (or any of those three make it out), depends on what I see in the latter part of D2.

[GeneralHankerchief]

You missed Khaan: 1 | Csargo (950). :whip:

I had that on my spreadsheet but guess I forgot to transcribe it. :wall:

NEW TALLY AS OF POST 976

Csargo: 2 | Zack (861), autolycus (932)
Dp101: 2 | seireikhaan (919), El Barto (942)
Winston Hughes: 1 | Renata (856)
NotACop: 1 | Snerk (874)
seireikhaan: 1 | Csargo (950)
Al Sipsclar: 1 | Dp101 (951)

Round ends:

[Renata]

This vote count is not acceptable to me.

vote: seireikhaan

[El Barto]

This vote count is not acceptable to me.
Why not?

[El Barto]

Scum Leans:
Autolycus
El Barto
Merde! Voulez vous dire pour quoi?

[Winston Hughes]

Caught up.

Understand better how Monty was thinking when we talked, and he generally looks very townie.

Csargo also looks better than before. A long way from clear, but giving a decent impression of solving intent if scum.

Barto isn't vibing scummy to me (by his standards). I'm a little wary of taking Monstr's willingness to vig him to be in any way clearing, given that both of them were fairly likely vig targets, but it's hard to judge without seeing the actual exchange.

Snerk looks good on tone. Neither seems like he's trying too hard, nor that he's lacking in morale. Combined with the qt evidence from two separate angles, he's safely in the good pile.

If chox is scum, this is a masterclass of fooling my tone reads.

Lewwyn looks a little worse - mainly just because other people have gained town cred and he hasn't - and I still haven't rechecked that ping I got from his D1. Since he seems unlikely to get lynched today (and I'm bored of reading), I'm going to leave it for now.

khaan looks bad. That D1 vote is the only significant point in his favour. Posts don't feel townie. There's no flow of thought I can follow. And the fact that suspicion is coming from his own faction seems quite damning.

NAC, who has no town points at all by my reckoning, is the only serious alternative to khaan at this stage. Didn't like the reads list in 657 at all. Felt forced and fluffy. Absence so far today is extremely unhelpful. Obviously RL is RL, but it's no stretch to imagine how this game state might leave a royalist NAC lacking motivation to post.

[Winston Hughes]

Although I don't feel like DP has given us that pure town bit here in the thread, I'm trusting Renata that she's seen enough in the qt.

[Manasi]

I lied.

NOW I'm here.

[Winston Hughes]

vote: khaan

[Winston Hughes]

I lied.

NOW I'm here.

Awww. Just when I'm about to hit the sack.

Do you think I'm scum?

[Winston Hughes]

I mean, ignoring how scummy it is of me to ask that.

[Winston Hughes]

Ah, la joie de la paranoïa.

Bonne nuit. :bow:

[Dp101]

A khaan lynch sounds good to me, and is more likely to go through than my current option, so Vote: Khaan.

[Choxorn]

Vote: Autolycus

Because, honestly, I think he's one of the most scummy players, being lurkery and only occasionally popping in to say very little is entirely within Auto's lurkerscum meta, and while some of his faction mates may vouch for him, nothing they've said has really convinced me that I should stop finding Auto scummy. At the very least, I think he should have more than zero votes on him.

[Dp101]

Vote: Autolycus

Because, honestly, I think he's one of the most scummy players, being lurkery and only occasionally popping in to say very little is entirely within Auto's lurkerscum meta, and while some of his faction mates may vouch for him, nothing they've said has really convinced me that I should stop finding Auto scummy. At the very least, I think he should have more than zero votes on him.

Voicing my support for this too, but alas, I only have 1 vote.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Tally as of post 989.

seireikhaan: 4 | CSARGO LOOK I DIDN'T FORGET THIS TIME SEE HOW ATTENTIVE I AM (950), Renata (978), Winston Hughes (984), Dp101 (988)
Csargo: 2 | Zack (861), autolycus (932)
Dp101: 2 | seireikhaan (919), El Barto (942)
NotACop: 1 | Snerk (874)
autolycus: 1 | Choxorn (989)

Round ends:

[Al Sipsclar]

Vote: Autolycus

[Montmorency]

Vote: DP101


Vote: Autolycus

Because, honestly, I think he's one of the most scummy players, being lurkery and only occasionally popping in to say very little is entirely within Auto's lurkerscum meta, and while some of his faction mates may vouch for him, nothing they've said has really convinced me that I should stop finding Auto scummy. At the very least, I think he should have more than zero votes on him.

Listen. I will guarantee you a result on this subject tomorrow morning; lynching auto now will put my efforts to waste. What I'm asking you is, holster the Girondins for tonight, any killing or blocking activities. I need you to trust me for one round.

Also, something to consider in lynching Khaan: I believe a majority of the player-linked factional abilities have been used up by now. A significant exception is an ability in my Mountain faction, which I would rely upon tonight to protect myself. If Khaan dies, scum or not, there is a chance that this ability will be lost, and if anyone else has a protective ability it may be difficult to communicate whether or not its use on me is warranted (i.e. whether or not my faction ability is still available) when the thread is closed for the night.

Please give these things all consideration.

[Dp101]

Monty, if Khaan is scum, you don't lose the ability, instead it is tied to someone else. Thus, we should not base our lynches on who we think has abilities tied to them.

[Montmorency]

That's true.

[autolycus]

Not much to respond to in other people's votes, so let's take a look at the non-votes

Not voting (as of 10:17 pm EDT, in case of cross-post):
Lewwyn, Manasi, NAC

Manasi's been sheeping all game, but is still basically cleared by the first day votes. I expect he'll come back in and place a vote before the end of the day?

People who've played with NotACop, is the "12 posts in a half an hour, then vanish for most of the days" thing normal with him?




Obviously RL is RL, but it's no stretch to imagine how this game state might leave a royalist NAC lacking motivation to post. What Winston said about NotACop is equally true if not more for Lewwyn.
Does anyone know if Lewwyn is still/back under the weather? Except for the El Barto series 3/12-3/13, he still hasn't said anything.


Csargo's at least participating, so for now, I'll unvote, vote: Lewwyn

[GeneralHankerchief]

Last tally before I go to bed. Accurate as of post 996.

seireikhaan: 4 | Csargo (950), Renata (978), Winston Hughes (984), Dp101 (988)
Dp101: 3 | seireikhaan (919), El Barto (942), Montmorency (993)
autolycus: 2 | Choxorn (989), Al Sipsclar (992)
Csargo: 1 | Zack (861)
NotACop: 1 | Snerk (874)
Lewwyn: 1 | autolycus (996)

Round ends:

[GeneralHankerchief]

(to those who hate the EOD times, there will probably be drift coming up the next night and day phase)

[Dp101]

I wish I knew why this game suddenly became so quiet and slow.

[Lewwyn]

I've just been working a lot the last couple days. I have another day and a half of just craziness before I get a bit of time off. It's just super bad timing with three different work things converging at the same time.