Fall of Rome - Total War

[dimitrios the samian]

I too wait patiently and silently for your v.3 self-installing Mod as well Maximus , http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-2thumbsup.gif

[roysparky]

Hello maximus your mod is great. Also do you need any unit graphics changed as I can change them to your specifications. Send me an e-mail if your interested roysparky@hotmail.com or reply thanks.

[SpetzNatz]

Quote[/b] (roysparky @ June 20 2004,12:56)]Hello maximus your mod is great. Also do you need any unit graphics changed as I can change them to your specifications. Send me an e-mail if your interested roysparky@hotmail.com or reply thanks.
Hi, may I suggest you to create one more mailbox elsewhere? If max will send some files to you, it can easily reach 1 MB size and I've heard, that size of mailbox in hotmail is only 1 MB.

[roysparky]

Thanks for the sugesstion Spetz. I'll do that if maximus wishes me to help him.

[roysparky]

If anyone know any good sites with good pictures of troops of the period in question, could you please post them. I'm particularly interested in germaninc troops.

[NagatsukaShumi]

Roman Empire.net (http://www.roman-empire.net)

There are some pictures of soldiers in the era of collapse on this site, it is a good resource for any other information also.

Regards
Nag

[maximus decimus meridius]

Hi all

Thanks for your appreciations

SpetzNaz.

your idea is good, but the problem is that i can upload only 1 mb by time, the new version will have more than 25 mb ... in this case i need that Duke John for instance (or someone else)will rebuild the original files organization in order to have a single downloadable file (equal to a self installer file).

about the troops pictures.

I use the Osprey Books, they are very well made.

Roysparky.
you can read Germanic Warrior AD 236-568, i think that you will find the informations you are looking for.

Besides, i need to make the Sassanian cavalry unitgraphics, i ask to SpetzNaz for help, but it seems to me that he has some problems.
So if you like to make the Sassanian cav i will be happy to use it in the game.

Steppe merc.
in the game the Sarmatians are the Bosphoran Kingdom, an old established pontic kingdom with close links with the ancient greeks and romans


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[roysparky]

Alright I'll try to make you some Sassinian cavalry I think I already have some pictures , but just in case could sombody post some links please.

[roysparky]

Also I have a question maximus, would like to include standard bearers and what not in the roman army. They could be like N:TW's general unit.

[SpetzNatz]

To Max.
In fact, I don't have any problems, but I'm in school (not at home). I'll try to do something with Sassanian cav. when I arrive home, but it will be pretty hard to alter at least 12 pics in 12 frames. Bye.

[maximus decimus meridius]

SpetzNaz.

Sorry, probably i didn't understand very well what you told me. So my proposal is that you will be able to make the Sassanian cavalry, and Roysparky could make the Heavy german cavalry (the original heavy cavalry unitgraphic isn't very accurate in my opinion).

SpetzNaz and roysparky what do you think about this?


.. I don't know N:TW so royspaky have you a picture about those general units?

[roysparky]

Maximus I have know problem doing the heavy German cavalry, but I'm going to need some pictures. I have also already began the Sassasian cavalry so if Spetz cannot create them do to school I would be happy to continue making them, otherwise I have know problem handing that job over to Spetz. As for the genral units go to this site http://www.roman-empire.net/army/army-pictures.html and look at the Vexillarius, Signifer, Aquilifer, Cornicen and
Legatus. Perhapes we could put them all in one unit or seperate them into smaller units.

[Inuyasha12]

Well i downloaded the mod yesterday and i've been playing all morning.
It's great the legions looked just perfect, they're also well balanced and it's very fun altogether.I started a new campaing, with the romans of course and after years of politics with the europea barbarian tribes i headed straight for constanstinople, and took it. The Byzantines ask me to end the conflict , it will help neither party
Nope, too bad. Now i got a little problem with the vandals but a little agressive negotiations will fix that.

I did do one thing to your great mod, i changed the romans color to red, just didn't feel right to have white legions. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-inquisitive.gif

Anyways, great mod i hope the next version kicks ass(can i say that?)
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[soibean]

I cant get this mod to run at all
I downloaded the version 2.0 into a seperate file then copy and pasted everything into the MTW file, I loaded MTW and it had nothing showing about a Fall of Rome mod

and then when I downloaded 2.1 and tried to follow the directions there was no startpos to change in the campmap section what am I missing or supposed to do to even play this mod?

man I wish some one was on at this time of night to answer this

[Inuyasha12]

Okay, i just want to know how to do 2 things.
First i want to change the name of the bulgars to huns, how can i do that?

Second how can you change the name of a religion?, just the name nothing else.

[soibean]

I downloaded the Fall of Rome v2.1 into a seperate folder and copied all of its information into to MTW folder, like I did for the STW mod which then worked for STW, when I loaded the game everything except for the viking invasion campaign was gone.... everything from the regular MTW was gone

I dont where to get other files for this or maybe I have to go WAY back in the fall of rome files to get it to work but I just dont know

any advice would be great

and yea I did try to follow the directions in the thread about fall of rome but that didnt work out for me unless I missed something so I'll try it again

nope trying it again didnt do anything either

[UBSamual]

soibean, there is a readme in the download. I would suggest you read it as it contains the install directions. It is not just a copy over. Nor is it difficult.

[soibean]

well I read the readme for installing vs 2.00 and after following all of the instructions listed and after loading the game... nada. It didnt read any of the stuff there isnt a single part of the game that has anything to do with Rome... These are the instructions I followed:

Installation Instructions:

You need a fresh installation of Medieval - Total war VI 2.01.
THE MOD WILL OVERWRITE THE ORIGINAL FILES OF MTW-VI, so BACKUP THEM

Then:

Unzip Fall_of_Rome20_MAIN in your Medieval - Total war directory
unzip Fall_of_Rome20_Infopics_reviewpanel in your Medieval - Total war\campmap directory
unzip Fall_of_Rome20_starpos_shields_pieces_parch in your Medieval - Total war\campmap directory

unzip Fall_of_Rome20PortraitsPaganEmissary1
unzip Fall_of_Rome20PortraitsPaganEmissary2 in your Medieval - Total war\campmap\Portraits\Pagan\Emissary (create it first ) directory

unzip Fall_of_Rome20PortraitsPaganPrincess1
unzip Fall_of_Rome20PortraitsPaganPrincess2 in your Medieval - Total war\campmap\Portraits\Pagan\Princess (create it first ) directory

Unzip Fall_of_Rome20_Textures_campmap in your Medieval - Total war\Textures\campmap directory

Unzip ALL Fall_of_Rome20_men in your Medieval - Total war\Textures\men directory
Unzip ALL Fall_of_Rome20_menItems in your Medieval - Total war\Textures\men directory


those are the instructions on the readme
SOME ONE please tell me what Im doing wrong this is driving me crazy I really wanna play this mod

[maximus decimus meridius]

Inuyasha12.

in order to make the change you want to do, you must to modify the txt files in the Loc folder.

soibean.

sorry i don't understand why the mod doesn't run on your pc, the install instructions are right. maybe you could download again the files from the Org, perhaps your files are corrupted....


roysparky.

i can send you in the next days (i'm very busy these days) some pictures of german cavalry, taken from osprey book, i think that you can start from MailHcav.bif file, and modify it.
i can send you my MailHcav file with the new shields, so you should modify only the bodies of the soldiers.

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oops. i'm thinking about the standard bearer and a new roman command unit.....

[roysparky]

No hurry Maximus take your time.

[Inuyasha12]

Are you going to change the hun/bulgar shields and flags to some thing not russian in the next install?

[maximus decimus meridius]

Inuyasha12.

Yes

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[Inuyasha12]

Good, what are you going to use?

[maximus decimus meridius]

mainly readbif.

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[Zanderpants]

Maximus Decimus Meridius:
I need to talk to you about maybe using some of your units in a mod of mine that I'm putting together, could you please email me at zanderpants@pacbell.net?

Thanks

[Zanderpants]

Does anyone know how to contact Maximus? I can't PM yet because I'm not a full member yet.

Thanks,
Zanderpants

[ah_dut]

someone tell me when a self extracting version is out, i don't understand how to install the normal one http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif

[Dextarious]

I cannot find the link to download this scenario to begin wtih...

Does anyone know where its at, I was told in the direct upload section, but I failed to see it. Also does anyone know the download time for a 56k?

[ShadesPanther]

http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin....st=275# (http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=27;t=17204;st=275#)

look at control panel and then two over and you will see files click on it and then goto stats under MTW and it should be the 4th one down

[Dextarious]

I'm not quite following you, are you saying their should be a special file section beside the 'your control panel'? Is that a member function? Can someone clear this up for me? I'm relativly new to navigating through MTW.

[Prince Tryphon]

Me neither Ah_dut.


SO can you guys post it when the self installer is out.


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[ShadesPanther]

http://www.mizus.com/Files/k0rgs8gVt/MTW/Stats/Fall_of_Rome20.zip Here is the direct link to the file.
in the top right below the picture you have this

Quote[/b] ]» Welcome ShadesPanther
[ Your Control Panel :: Chat :: Files :: Log Out :: Notes :: New Posts ]

click on files and you get to a download section. No waiting times http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[Nom]

my favorite mod http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/medievalcheers.gif

[Dextarious]

Thanks for the link shade, though I dont have the files section, I think thats reserved for members?

[Dextarious]

Could someone link me to the 2.1 fix? I dont have the files section, heres what I have:

» Welcome Dextarious
[ Your Control Panel :: Log Out :: New Posts ]

[Dextarious]

Ugh, I just spent all night downloading this scenario, then unpacking it( followed the instructions to the exact, and did it again after failing the first time), and I get to the scenario maps, there is the fall of the west, and justinian the reconquest, Either one I pick, the second I hit Continue, to move on to the country selector, it crashes to the desktop, what file corruption would you attribute this to? Or is the problem something I'm doing perhaps?

[Dextarious]

Unzip Fall_of_Rome20_MAIN in your Medieval - Total war directory
unzip Fall_of_Rome20_Infopics_reviewpanel in your Medieval - Total war\campmap directory
unzip Fall_of_Rome20_starpos_shields_pieces_parch in your Medieval - Total war\campmap directory

unzip Fall_of_Rome20PortraitsPaganEmissary1
unzip Fall_of_Rome20PortraitsPaganEmissary2 in your Medieval - Total war\campmap\Portraits\Pagan\Emissary (create it first ) directory

unzip Fall_of_Rome20PortraitsPaganPrincess1
unzip Fall_of_Rome20PortraitsPaganPrincess2 in your Medieval - Total war\campmap\Portraits\Pagan\Princess (create it first ) directory

Unzip Fall_of_Rome20_Textures_campmap in your Medieval - Total war\Textures\campmap directory

Unzip ALL Fall_of_Rome20_men in your Medieval - Total war\Textures\men directory
Unzip ALL Fall_of_Rome20_menItems in your Medieval - Total war\Textures\men directory


These are the instructions I followed that came with the Scenario, is their any known discrepency in them?

[maximus decimus meridius]

Dextarios

I think that you can resolve your problems simply installing the 2.1 patch.

this is the link:

http://www.3ddownloads.com/strateg....2.1.zip (http://www.3ddownloads.com/strategy-gaming/totalwar/MTW/Stats/FALL_OF_ROME_2.1.zip)


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[Lord Zimoa of Flanders]

Use this easy and free installer program for your mod.

http://www.clickteam.com/English/install_creator.htm

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[Spartacus]

will this mod get a self-install for me all the best mods have one.

[maximus decimus meridius]

Thanks CZoF

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[uksiu]

Very good mod

I've finished my first campaign. The installation wasn't so easy, but I did it step by step and had no problems and no ctd during the game.

The beginning in early era for Romans is really hard Every barbarian is heading to my lands, no infrasturcture to build good units to stop them. 2 years after the start a had civil war - stayed with my cesar :) but I've lost a half of Africa and England and 4 provinces in Galia and Iberia. I've regrouped my troops and... another civil war http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

I've lost everything except italian provinces, 2 lands in Iberia and Wessex... Cool This is a challenge
I needed 15 years to take almost all provinces back (except borders - barbarians stayed there with strong armies). In 405 I had ships on almost all seas. My income grew to 21.000 per year. So I build new buildings, better troops and in 429 I won (minor victory).

The beginning is very cool, but after that game has 2 fases:
1. building defence and infrastructure to make money
2. clean all lands

I've started assault in 419, so I needed 10 years to win...

Maybe I'll try other era... Are they more difficult for Rome?

[maximus decimus meridius]

I think so.

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[uksiu]

Yuppie

I hope I'll check it in the first weekend :)
(if my girlfriend won't kill my computer - she hates MTW :) )

BTW - I enjoy legion units. This javelins and hard fighting - I love this boys http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[maximus decimus meridius]

I've tried to make the real units with the more realistic fighting way.....

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[Prince Tryphon]

Downloading now....

Hope I do this right.


Thanks for this awesome mod Max.

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If I do this right, lets have a keg party http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/barrel.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/medievalcheers.gif

Prince Tryphon

[Prince Tryphon]

No dice...

Doesn't work

Need selff installerrrrrr (drooling)


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[TheSilverKnight]

I have just downloaded and begun playing this mod, and I must say few things

1. Absolutely marvelous job on the campaigns, units, and overall stability; NO CTD'S FOR ME https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
2. Thanks for making this great mod available to the public
3. I love how it plays Playing as the West with Barbarians surrounding you, revolts, and all the good stuff

I've recently had a civil war where a General took power as Maximus I, and it took a lot to even regain partial stability of the Empire after the civil war I just wanted to say what an awesome job that you have done, Maximus https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/bigthumb.gif

[uksiu]

Maximus, you have right - other eras are more difficult for Rome :)

I've checked it. I was more carefull so in second era I had only one civil war and needed 76 years to win.

Now I will look at the last one period as Byzantium :)

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

Hey max will you be adding romano british infantry? I think those boys could help counter the alemaric warbands, those boys are tough buggers.


Also i was thinking doing a faction guide for the western empire, would you mind?

[uksiu]

Finished.

62 years for byzantine victory.
They used to sleep on the money, so lack of good infantry it's not a big problem. I collected 325,000 when I was building units and infrastructure in all provinces. And when I was fighting with almost every neighbours, I've never had less than 270,000... Boring https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Maybe if Persians and Arabs attacked me, it could give some fun for my campaign - but they just were waiting for my army...

Strange thing: as Rome I was isolated - nobody wanted to be my ally. And allies always looking for the good moment to attack without signal. As Bizantium I had plenty of good ally, helping me in wars, and no traitors...

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BTW: in Rum (Armenia in this mod) Byzantium has a mosque. So it makes small crash (need spacebar), because orthodox faction hasn't mosque graphic.

So I destroyed it at the beginning.

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Very good mod I enjoyed it and I think I will back to start a new campaign - maybe as a Persians or Khazars...
But now I need to rest. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/gc-zzz.gif

[maximus decimus meridius]

uksiu.

the mosque in armenia will be fixed in the next version. i'm glad to see that you enjoy the mod

The Blind King of Bohemia.

the Romano British warbands will be add in Fall of Rome 3.0 (i've already made them indeed..).

I like very much the idea of making a faction guide for the western empire

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[Kaiser of Arabia]

Hey Maximus, great mod, 1 problem though,
when I fight battles, there are no corpses, none, whatsoever/ Although its relativly minor, it bothers me alot because I love having battlefields covered in my enemies corpses. Do you have a fix for it?
-Capo

[maximus decimus meridius]

Caporegime1984.

yes this is a problem, that will be fix in the next release.
max

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[Despot of the English]

Hello Maximus https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif .
I haven't had time to read through everything in this thread but what time periods does this mod cover?

[The Sword of Cao Cao]

Just wondering are there any new untis. factions or campmap in this one? I've been lookin for a nice well done Roman mod...

[maximus decimus meridius]

Despot of the English.

the mod cover the period between 300AD and 600/700AD, the end of the roman western empire and the rise of the german kingdoms.

The Sword of Cao Cao.

there are a lot of new units and new factions, romans, sassanids, germans, huns, etc etc (please see the beginning of the thread) but not a new strategic map (only the names of countries are redone).

max

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[uksiu]

Max, thanx for answer.

I also noticed Bulgarian Brigands (or maybe Bulgarian Infantry) possible for Byzantium in Bulgaria in late era, but Drinkhall is needed, so it's impossible to train.

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[Flamininus]

I really love this mod Max, excellent piece of work

I'm looking foreward to the inclusion of the Romano-British warbands. I've just completed playing with this faction and it was very tough in the beginning, they need some good attacking infantry. Will the size of the Romano-British knights unit remain the same?

[Dextarious]

I heard that some people were using Razors AI Mod in collusion with this mod, if so how do you go about getting the two to work?

[maximus decimus meridius]

uksiu.

thanks for the information, i'll try to fix the bug...

Flamininus.

the size of the Romano-british knights will remain the same, but they will have a new appearence, more similar to the Roman horsemen.

Dextarious.

i've never used Razor AI mod, sorry. i haven't planned any modification of my mod to resolve this problem, after the next version maybe i'll be to make something.

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All.

thanks for your appreciations.

[ah_dut]

sorry to bug ya mate but will v3 come out on an auto installer? thanks for the info sounds gr8 but i'm a cretin so can't install anything https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif

[maximus decimus meridius]

ah_dut


i don't know if the V.3.0 will have an auto installer, sorry.. but i hope so.

max

[ah_dut]

thanks for reply HTW has one now so i don't see why not, just use the clickteam one, thanks https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Kaiser of Arabia]

if you have WinRAR you can make a self extracting archive that is kinda like an auto installer if you have the files in the right folder.
-Capo

[maximus decimus meridius]

Ok mates thanks for your suggestions i'll try to make a self installer mod.

max

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[dimitrios the samian]

Thats the way to go Maximus self installers .
Looking forward to downloading version 3 ..cheers pal. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

[Kaiser of Arabia]

BTW, if you don't want to go thru all those 3d download hassles, and if it's under 750kbs, I can upload it for ye on one of me sites.
-Capo

[Crazed Rabbit]

Are there any screenshots of this great-sounding mod that I can see somewhere?

Crazed Rabbit

[maximus decimus meridius]

Sorry most of the screenshot have been removed, i'll upload some others with new units.

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[Consul Flaminius]

so where are the screenshots?

[Consul Flaminius]

Sorry if that last post sounded offensive...... ~D

[maximus decimus meridius]

no problem Consul Flaminus, i have been very busy these last 2 months , actually i'm very involved in finishing some new unitgraphics , so i think i'll upload some screenshoots asap, but i think after 15 aug.

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[dimitrios the samian]

Thats the way Maximus !! .. upload those screenshots .
Im keen on your mod as well .
cheers.. ~:cheers:

[Empedocles]

Hi, I'm new to the guild but for what I've seen it's by far the best forum for the ToW Series.

I'm having problems with the Fall of Rome mod (I believed to have installed the 2.1 version but in the upper left corner of the Menu I see 2.0, it's all right??)

Also when I play with the romans after the AD 458 my game crashes and go back to desktop.


Can anyone help me???

Thanks

Empedocles from Argentina
(Sorry for my English)
~:mecry:

[Consul Flaminius]

I usualy have conquered 60% of the map by then, and accept a lesser victory.

[Empedocles]

Well, not every one are born with such wisdom for managing an empire. But don't worry, I mess it up when updating to 2.1 and now I can play it right.
By thge way, anyone had played in the earlier campaing (350 was it?) at the hardest level and won it??? I'll try it again, but civil war erupted while every barbarian attacked me.

Bye

[Consul Flaminius]

I tried that campaign but got fed up after 30 turns ~:mad: , because there seemed to be a barbarian invasion every 2 or 3 turns. No civil wars though, I managed to keep the empire under control. :bow:

[Empedocles]

I am playing it now. The civil war erupted any way but except for MAlta and Sardinia I took back everything (but lots of building got destroyed in sieges).
The barbarians seems very quiet for me, except for the franks and the Saxons that are going to win me over Britain and the Visigoths that are building 3 big armys at my frontiers (I only lost Flanders,Austria and Croacia to barbarians).

[Consul Flaminius]

Consentrait on the Franks, But leave enough troops to defend britain. :knight:

[UglyandHasty]

Hi,
I have install version 2 then 2.1, but each time i try to play a battle i have an error. It say Hard sprites failed to load. I am pretty sure i download everything in right folders but obviously i messed up somewhere. Otherwise campaigns look good. Any advices ?

[Empedocles]

Maximus (and the people who is working in the best mod I played!)
I'm writing so you have my impressions of the lacks of the mod that I believe are important to be fixed in the future.
I believe the enemies are not as agressive as they should be. Franks attacks Flanders, southern Britain and maybe another province and they stop atacking without a good reason (my armies where decimated and of very low quality troops). Germasn only attacked me in Lorraine at the begining, Swabia few years later, and Burgundy when I have mastered a good army!
Visigoths is almost the same, and they stop attacking in Austria when they could have easily conquest venice.
I think is not a matter of starting the game (I played it in Expert and always with romans) with a bunch of really low quality units in one side and the barbarias with lots of medium quality units on the other side.
After few years (I losted Britain excetp Wessex to my regret) I could easily start a reconquest campaing that quickly put those barbarians on their knees.
In my opinion the barbarians should have a more agressive strategic and better upgrading ability (I don't think they developed new units in the whole game).

But the diloyal of the generals (that eventually erupted in civil war) was really cool and hard to manage.

Well, that was my opinion, sorry for the english and thanks again for the mod!!

Diego from Argentina

PS: I'm the only one that believe RTW demo sucked in everything but in graphics and soundS?????

[maximus decimus meridius]

Iksender.

I think that you haven't right unitgraphics in the right folders, try to reinstall the 2.0 and then the 2.1 version. if it shouldn't work try to download again the 2.0.

sorry...


Empedocles.

You can't play always with the romans after the 458ad ? i'll make some tests.
anyway in the next version i'll try to make the barbarians more aggressive, for instance in some campaigns will be easier to make barbarian invasions, there will be a small economic tree for the german kingdoms in order to give them more economical resources, some new units like:

Daylami infantry (persians)
Legiones Pseudocomitatenses (rom.)
Praetoriani (rom.)
Equites catafractarii (rom.)
Romano British warbands

i'm thinking about some new german troops ....

cheers max

[Empedocles]

Maximus.
The problem I had with Romans after 458 was when I had version 2.0. Now I have 2.1 and doesn't seem to be any issue.
I believe that in order to give the barbarians more power you should unite those nations, so they can work as one.
Examples: Goths. We all know the diferences of the west and east goths, but in the end when things got ugly, they unit and rampaged trough Trhacia without hesitation.
Also I think you should remove the Lombards because they always take a number of provinces from the Germans and Franks and they wasn't that important in history.
I'm not saying you shoul remove completely the units of this nations, but they should be in the tech tree of others nations.
Well, that was almost everything. I'm now playing a new campaing with romans (I really love them!!) in expert in 430 AD. I hope it would be fun.

Bye

PS: THanks for this mod

[UglyandHasty]

Maximus

Yesterday i re-install the mens files into the texture/mens folders and you were right it was the mens graphics in wrong folder. Thanks anyway.

I realy like your mod. My first campaign as the roman was a surprise. I had generals or prince in rebellion almost every turn. Good job ! FoR mod will be on my list of good mod with BKB's, Nap mod, Shogun mod and HTW !!! ~:cheers:

[Empedocles]

maximus,
I have posted few posts but I really enjoy your mod and I want to thank you for that.
But in order to be more correct in the history of Rome there are some changes I believe you should make in the 430 AD campaign.
In 429 the vandals crossed from Hispania to Africa with 80000 followers who rampaged trough all Mauritania without oposition but didn't take Carthage till AD 439. So I believe you should limit the control of the vandals to mauretania and Granada and not central Hispania, which should be given to a significant number of rebels to represent the bagaudas (don't know the traduction to english) who where bandits that consumed much of Rome, Visigoths and Franks military power in those years.
Also consider that vandals created a naval empire in few years so they should start with a number of ships.
Around those years the Huns rampaged through modern Georgia and Khazzar so you might want to add Georgia to their empire.
I saw in a long time post that you asked for a name to give to the Papal Faction and you said that you couldn't change it from campaing to campaing. So if you couldn't make the Pope be relegated to Finland you should just call that faction the "Catholic Church".
One fact that should be change is that even after the 407 invasion of Gaul and the sack of Rome in 410 the Roman Empire could restore the Rhin frontier in few years and controlled all France until the invasion of Atila in 451.
The problem with those invasion was that they devastated the economy of every country from the Po river to the English Channel, so the Empire would never have enough money to raise troops of their own and hire barbarians. Also they sacked Hispania and allowed the barbarians to establish themselves inside the empire (Vandals, Suevis, Goths, etc), but it was not until the king of the huns arrived (and with him a lot of other nations) that Rome lost control of Gaul.

Also (i'm a never satisfied customer :tomato: ) I'd like to post the starting years I believe that would be great to start play with. (I can only contribute with the Historical part because don't know shit about modding)
AD 400: With goths near Venice and an inestable truce between them and Rome. Franks and the Allemani would cross the Rhin in 7 years and Stilicho should be in the middle of this shit. Also consider to upgrade the Catle in West Italy to simbolyza Ravena that was the last bastion of the Imperator.
AD 445: Huns in Thracia, with Rome controlling only the west coast of Hispania and few provinces in Gaul. (Lorraine included).

Thanks

Diego, from Argentina
PS: THANKS AGAIN FOR THE MOD ~:cheers:

[JR-]

is this mod due for an update anytime soon? new features, bugs squashed, that sort of thing....... :)

[maximus decimus meridius]

All.

it will be a 3.0 version of the mod within september 04, greater than the previous version. there will be new units (like the Pseudocomitatenses legions, Romano-british warbands, Rugian warriors, Heruli warriors, etc.), small techtree for Germans and Pagans (level 1), small economical tree for germans and 2 new campaigns; 304ad (maxentius vs. constantinus) and 470ad (the last stand of the west). besides there will be new unitgraphics for Romans and Germans. :)
Oh. i put the limit between early and high era in 475ad, now the Byzantines in the early era have the roman units and in the high era have Byzantine early medieval units such as Kataphraktoi and Stratiotai.

Empedocles.

About the Pope, i removed him from the game, so he now act as a power that excommunicates catholic factions and authorizes Crusades ... but he hasn't units or countries in the game.
about the vandal and the hun problems ..... yes you are right so i'll try to give the factions the proper start positions, also about the 400ad and 445ad i'll make some tests, and if these 2 campaigns will be funny i'll put them in the next version.

cheers
~:wave:

[Empedocles]

Maximus,
I'm already waiting for the release of 3.0 in September, and I encourage you to continue working in other upgrades besides RTW.
As I told you I can make a description of the historical situation in 470 and 304 to be placed in a readme or in the game so you would be more historical accurate.
For example, I was reading yesterday that Rome didn't lost control of Gaul till the first years of the 470 decade and it included the rhin frontier. Although the bandits where endemic controlling central Gaul, The kingdon of Soissons (west of flanders) was an ally of Rome and survived till 486 and the Goths have sieged Arles.
If you want I can start working in that part of the game, just tell me.

Bye


PS: Anyone knows what expansion of RTW are they working on??? (Please tell me it's the Fall of Rome)
PS: Maximus, a campaing that would be really cool (but units where different from those of 304, was one with imperator Aurelianus in 270 when Rome only controlled Italy, Africa and the Danube Frontier. Gaul was lost and in the East the Palmyra empire involved much of byzantine territory.

[Belisarivs]

Hi Max.
I don't know if I informed you, but I'm SpetzNatz, but I can't obtain new password, so I use this nick.
I have some info for you. Go to http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/nsis/nsis20.exe?download , install, go to bin folder where you installed it, rin zip2exe. Pack your mod to zip (with correct structure of folders, just like in MTW) and open that zip in zip2exe. Set parameters at will and click generate (I suggest usage lzma compression).
That's all you need to do to make installer of your mod.
And pearl at the end: I managed to pack your mod v2 (in zip about 24 - 26 MB) to 14,5 MB. I kid you not!!!

:jumping: ~:wave: ~:cheers:

[maximus decimus meridius]

Empedocles.

I'm thinking in these days that it would be a nice thing to add the romano-gauls Kingdom of Soissons to the 470ad campaign ..... mmmhh ... what do you think about this?

so if you can write the historical situation about the470, i think that i can put it in the game, so thanks for your help, every players will thank you for doing it.

~D

About the Aurelian campaign, probably it's a good idea but i think that i can't put it in the game without change deeply some essential files of the game, so i would prefer to make this in a next version (4.0 ??)

Belisarivs

Hi mate! Glad to see you! thanks for the infos i'll test what you said me. The 3.0 version actually run smootly i have to make some graphic work in order to finish it, but it is almost done (i'm making some tests with new units now, yesterday i've made 2 Gepid units ...), so ehm... what about your uniitgraphic work? can you upload some screenshots?

see you in the next days!

~:wave: ~:cheers:

[Consul Flaminius]

So is the mod nearly ready for release? ~:)

[maximus decimus meridius]

Yes, i hope within september, now i'm making a independent roman faction in order to represent probably the Kingdom of Soissons (in gaul - 470ad campaign) and the african army of Bonifacius (the Aetius' rival) in africa during the 430 ad campaign.

max ~:)

[dimitrios the samian]

Excellent work Maximus ,
Ive been silently following the progress of your mod as well .
I haven't played any of your earlier versions as yet , just been busy with VI .
Even if V.3 is released in early October Im sure most wouldn't mind .
Im definately looking forward to playing it and don't forget that self installer either .
cheers pal ~:cheers:

[manu7777]

hello,
congratulations for this excellent mod. just a little problem... roman shields aren't correct :
the most needed correction is for all roman infantry and for all period:
all legions must have scutum :
http://www.varmouries.com/vpics/anc_50a.jpg
auxiliary infantry haven't any shield
triarii infantry have special ovoid shield like hastatii : http://romandomain.120host.net/Units.htm
and after :
all equites have ovoid shield like that :
http://www.oakengates.com/history/images/Cavalry_5.jpg

i think that it would great to have praetorians guards unit with pilum and scutum, slow unit, excellent attack, excellent defence, excellent defence vs cavalry, excellent morale, very expensive unit, elite unit, unit in only dark blue color. plz add all these corrections maximus.

if you could add an earlier period it could be FANTASTIC!!!!!!

[manu7777]

shield corrections and praetorians unit are the most importants.

[oldnfaded]

hello,
congratulations for this excellent mod. just a little problem... roman shields aren't correct :
the most needed correction is for all roman infantry and for all period:
all legions must have scutum :
http://www.varmouries.com/vpics/anc_50a.jpg
auxiliary infantry haven't any shield
triarii infantry have special ovoid shield like hastatii : http://romandomain.120host.net/Units.htm
and after :
all equites have ovoid shield like that :
http://www.oakengates.com/history/images/Cavalry_5.jpg

i think that it would great to have praetorians guards unit with pilum and scutum, slow unit, excellent attack, excellent defence, excellent defence vs cavalry, excellent morale, very expensive unit, elite unit, unit in only dark blue color. plz add all these corrections maximus.

if you could add an earlier period it could be FANTASTIC!!!!!!

Err Manu7777, you are talking different eras completely.. This mod is late roman ie 3rd century and later. The shields you discuss are 1st and 2nd century whilst triarii and hastati are pre christian era roman and disappear with the republic. As to auxiliariues being shieldless, where do you get that from. By the time of the mod, auxiliaries are the fighting core of the roman warmachine with the legions performing 2nd line duties and auxiliaries in particular are both heavily armed and well trained as front line formed troops. My critisiscm of an otherwise excellent mod is that its 3D Roman images are 1st and 2nd century rather than the troop types depicted in the Doura wallpaintings relative to this period. By the third century ad Lorica segmentata was giving way to lighter armoured mail and leather armour once more. May i refer you to the excelllent reference books by P. Barker published by Wargames research group which are a cheap and excellent grounding to this period in particular "the Armies and enemies of Imperial Rome"
BTW My criticism of the mod is meant to be constructive. I enjoyed it a lot and indeed used some of its artwork as base for my Arthurian mod.

[maximus decimus meridius]

manu7777.

oldnfaded is right, the mod represents the situation at the end of the empire, 4th to 6th century ad, at that time the standard roman soldier was very different from the earlier republican legionary.
you can see "later roman infantryman" and "later roman cavalryman" osprey books for the correct look.

oldnfaded.

you are right about the type of armors and weapons, the next version infact will have a totally revised roman unitgraphics (infantry and cavalry) with mail armor and oval shields, i've alredy done it. i'll upload some screenshots inthe next days.

bye

max ~:wave:

[manu7777]

ok, but for the moment we"ve no mods about 1st and 2nd Century and this is a real lack cuz rtw will not have good roman units. manu_du_77@hotmail.com this is my e-mail address if u want to explain to me how to add these shield add units or if you know where i can find a mod which talk about this period.
I know that there's a mod called patrician but I've downloaded it and I have an application created by WinPatch, but the problem is that this patch will not be applied in my Medieval total war installation and this is for me a real problem. That could be great if I can extract all datas from this patch.
But for the moment if we consider fall of Rome and Hellenic total war, we can create a nice mod with all the Roman units, Athenians, Macedonians, Persians, and all Barbarians factions with some of viking invasion units. If you are interested, I can mod for the fall of Rome earlier period.

Please contact me.

[oldnfaded]

oldnfaded.

you are right about the type of armors and weapons, the next version infact will have a totally revised roman unitgraphics (infantry and cavalry) with mail armor and oval shields, i've alredy done it. i'll upload some screenshots inthe next days.

bye

max ~:wave:

OH MY!!!
Sorry but my impatience is getting the better of me.

~:rolleyes:

Any chance of an early sighting of the unit Bifs and action files. They are all that is missing from my Arthurian mod. If you are prepared to let me have them early then my e mail is thoughtpolice@terra.es

many thanks

oldnfaded

PS if not , I will wait for the next version "sigh"

?=0)

PPS tried to pm you but your box is full

[Consul Flaminius]

any chance of some screenies :thumbsup:

[maximus decimus meridius]

Ok , some old screens .. new screens will be uploaded in the next days.


the Equites Catafractarii.
http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWupload/FALL_OF_ROME_3.0_CATAFRACTARII.JPG

a Pseudocomitatenses Legion

http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWupload/FALL_OF_ROME_3.0_NEWAUXILIA2.JPG

and the Praetoriani

http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWupload/FALL_OF_ROME_3.0_PRAETORIANI.JPG

[Empedocles]

maximus, what are the names of the factions you plan to include in the 470 campaing?

Diego

[Consul Flaminius]

nice........... ~:cool:

[maximus decimus meridius]

Oldnfaded.

i'm changing something in my unitgraphics files they aren't finished yet. sorry.

anyway i've clean my box, so please contact me.

~:wave:

[maximus decimus meridius]

These are 2 new units, the Milites Equites and the Milites pedites.


http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWupload/FALL_OF_ROME_3.0_MILITESPEDITES_MILITESEQUITES.JPG

[oldnfaded]

latest screen shots are nice. When will the animations be available

oldnfaded

[Dux Syagrius]

Max, I had no idea this thread existed. Sorry for taking all of your time with those long emails. There isnt much info on the Kingdom of Soisson. I do know it was ruled from 466-486 by Dux Syagrius (he stole my name). I tried to represent his lands in my mod of your mod and there is no way to make it match with what is on any map I saw. He was defeated by Clovis and was murdered in 487 by the Visigoths. He was the last Magister Militum per Gaullia. Rumor has it he wrote a letter and promised to save the Romano-Brits during the early barbarian invasions of the island and some historians said he was the basis for the Aurthurian legends. I'm assuming he ruled over a gallo roman aristocracy and used the same troops (foederati, buccelari etc etc) as anyone else in that era.

PS I'm really pissed that I wasted 2 weeks of my life trying to change your mod to suit my needs. Then you come up with this 3.0 jazz and now I am totally dissatisfied with my product.........

I'm leaving this whole mod stuff to the pros.

[maximus decimus meridius]

Hi here is another new unit, the Cuneus Equitum, these units are frontier cavalry units and acted together with the milites limitanei ....


http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWupload/FALL_OF_ROME_3.0_CUNEUSEQUITUM.JPG



Dux Syagrius.

where are you read the informations about Syagrus, last magister militum of gaul? i think they are very interesting.
thanks in advance!
~:wave:

[Empedocles]

He was the last Magister Militum in Gaul and when he saw that no help would come from Rome to the province he decided to take the title of Rex Romanun (or something like that) that meant King of the Romans.
I believe we can say that he was the last prescence of the Roman Empire in the West along with another General (one who commanded Julius Nepos forces) that fought a battle in Croatia against Odoacer in 486.
I believe that the Kingdom of Soissons lasted till 484 when Clovis (the second or the first?) conquered his land.
And I know that Soissons was the land that in the game is shown as normandy and flanders.

Bye

Diego

[oldnfaded]

You said
Rumor has it he wrote a letter and promised to save the Romano-Brits during the early barbarian invasions of the island and some historians said he was the basis for the Aurthurian legends. I'm assuming he ruled over a gallo roman aristocracy and used the same troops (foederati, buccelari etc etc) as anyone else in that era.
.

The information I have differs a little to this. In his chronicles, Gildas(contemporary to the period) says that a letter was sent from agitus, who is assumed to be the last effective Roman magister miltitum of gaul that modern history knows as Aegidius the father of Syagrius. You may be interested to know of the existence of a fictional work on Syagrius called "the king of the Romans " by John Gorman which is available from palm digital as an E book

http://www.palmdigitalmedia.com/product/detail/184

may be of help but very little real info seems to be available, Aegidius is often connected with the Arthurian legend and is sometimes said to be arthur but who knows.

oldnfaded

[Dux Syagrius]

You're right. Aegidus was the last Magister Militum per Gaullia. I guess I was typing a little too fast......... I am not totally sure where I read that Syagrius was tied to the Arthurian legend. I want to say Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire by Gibbon, but there is a little too much info and a little too much old style english prose is that book to be 100% certain. I just remember the feeling I got when I read that passage: "Boy, those Brits sure are getting ripped off. Syagrius as King Arthur? Fat chance he's coming to help, he's got his hands full as it is!" There is such a relatice scarcity of info during this period and alot of it was biased or very exagerrated. It was kind of like the 70's. People werent sure what decade they were in!

Thanks for the adjustment
Dux

[oldnfaded]

How close are you to releasing the new Late Roman 3D anim bifs? I am about ready to make the next release of "Arthur" but would love to have more accurate battle images?

oldnfaded

[maximus decimus meridius]

Hi

i think that Fall of Rome 3.0 will be released within 15 october.

~:wave:

[Hross af Guttenburg]

Hiya Max, long time no see! :p
Great news about the release date, hopefully something even bigger and better can be done for ROME TW?!
Guess it's a bit late to start monaing about stuff for FOR3? Just gonna say that the Bosporan kingdom fell to the Goths around 300 AD, so it shouldn't really be in the later campaigns...although I reckon the Slavs should be there.
Also, the AngloSaxon and Romano-Britons should have different start pos. The Danes did not leave Sweden until well into the fourth century after the AngloSaxons and Jutes left Jutland-Denmark.... I think that the next version/Rome Total war should have new provinces like Cernow in south west Britain as a Romano-British province.
I've started work on the portraits again (!- don't laugh...) and made the look and feel of the factions a lot better I think, the problems of black portraits and CTDs is still there though...
Anyways, good luck, can't wait till FOR3 is released!

[Belisarivs]

Hi Max. I use Photoshop to make those new graphics, but I don't know how to pack it back to bif. So I won't be able to post any screenshots.
About that new unit, I was buse recently (seasonal work to gather money to finance my studies at the university). Sorry. I'll do my best.
What about loading screen. Do you have any suggestions? Could you mail me names you want to add to it (you mentioned, that you wish to add tem there). Bye.

[Belisarivs]

Sorry, I was busy, not buse. ~D

[maximus decimus meridius]

Hross.

hi! how are you? .... i don't know for ROME TW , .. really.


Belisarivs.

no problem for me, take your time, i think that your studies are more important than MTW mods.

anyway to pack back the new graphics you can use "readbif" (there is an import function under the file menu - "import frame from bmp"), i've tried 2 days ago to pack back some of the frame you sent me, but after the importation in readbif, the background of the horse was black ! maybe there is something wrong in the transparent color of the color palette .
Also the horse colour palette is wrong, infact the horse is very dark and the has other altered colours.
maybe this fact is due to several graphic format changes ?

:wall:

about the loading screen (great!) i will send you the name list

bye
max

ps.
if you haven't i can send you readbif.exe ~:wave:

[Belisarivs]

Thanks.
I used this procedure:
Extracted frames from light horse (for horse archers etc.) and that with mail armour (for Kataphraktoi etc.).
Then i set one frame of light horse as background and appropriate frame of that mailed horse as Layer 1.
Then moved parts of Layer 1 to correct positions according Background and carefully erased redundant parts of Layer 1.
Merged them together and saved as bmp in 8-bit.
So, you can see, that I didn't darken anything as well as didn't do anything with background.

I thing, that problem is, that while compression to 8-bit colours chooses any 256 colours, just to reduce size at max, readbif has still the same 256 colours and when it doesn't find any exactly correstponding ones, it tries to find closest ones, but it appears, that it doesn't mean, that it will succeed.
I've already tried readbif, but it produced something what cannot be taken seriously. Perhaps I had bad version. If you wish you can send it to me.

BTW, what do you think about that NSIS. It can create nice installer (and uninstaller as well) and still reduce size of finall file. I've managed to pack your mod from 24 - 26 MB to 14,5 MB with it. If you wish, I can send you my addon as example. It needs MedMod 3.14 to be installed first and adds bohemian faction to MTW. Just ot show how it works.

:knight:

[maximus decimus meridius]

Oh. i see i use same technique to make my unitgraphics. for example i create a new shield on the first frame with readbif, extract all the 12 frames in .bmp format and open them with Microsoft Office Photoeditor (very easy to use, it maintains the colour palette and also makes the resizing from 512 to 256 px), then i copy and paste the shield on the remnants 11 frames, save all the files, and reimport them in readbif.

no problems with color palette...

so if i have understand well you are using the light horse frames as background to paste part of the armored horse .... probably you are right the problem is the 8 bit conversion so i think that you should maintain the original output compress ratio of readbif.
i'll send you the readbif i'm using.

about the self installer for me it's ok but i have only to speak with Duke John to resolve the limit 2 Mb of uploading on the download section ..

oh yes please send me your mod ...

~:wave:

[Empedocles]

Maximus, can you give us any idea for a release date!! I'm eager to play your new mod.

Diego, from Argentina

PS: Now a Senior Patron....soon an Emperor

[Consul Flaminius]

Maximus, can you give us any idea for a release date!! I'm eager to play your new mod.

Diego, from Argentina

PS: Now a Senior Patron....soon an Emperor

15th October............................. :furious3:

[maximus decimus meridius]

The release date is 15 th october, the mod is finished and i'm making some tests, but.. i've a problem. every time i try to go to the battle screen, the pc screen freezes after few minutes!

......:furious3: !!

so i can't test the mod in the right way!!

please if anyone have a solution tell me the answer !!


:help:

[Empedocles]

Can't wait to kill barbarians!!!
Thanks Maximus

PS: Can't help cause don't know a thing about programming

[maximus decimus meridius]

Hi all!

The mod release will be delayed to next week cause i've had problems with my graphic cards drivers.

i'm sorry....~:mecry:

max

[Empedocles]

no problem, we will wait you.

Diego, from Argentina

PS: In the meantime I have a wonderful family in Sims 2 and I'm happy with it.

[metatron]

You could just release a "beta" and we can test it for you... :D

[dimitrios the samian]

Hello Maximus ..... So is it your faulty graphics card that made your screen freeze ? or something the programming ?

[maximus decimus meridius]

dimitrios the samian.

i had a radeon 9000 and i havent had any problem, some weeks ago i upgraded my pc witha radeon 9600 with new drivers.....

it always freezed my pc ...

so i put my old radeon 9000 in the pc with new drivers downloaded from ati site.... it freezed the pc..

i have uninstalled the new driver and installed the old ones (old catalyst 3.2 or 3.3 i don't remember well) and now IT WORKS VERY WELL !!!

SO THE NEW CATALYST DRIVERS DON'T WORK AND THE OLD ONES WORK WELL !!

i don't understand ! really !

~:confused:

[dimitrios the samian]

Hhhmmm.... Frustrating for sure Maximus .. Anyway Im glad you got it all working again , so your testing can proceed .
One question ,, I haven't played any of your earlier versions .
So will your Mod have different music ?
cheers ~:cheers:

[maximus decimus meridius]

No sorry , it will not have new music...

:no:

max

[dimitrios the samian]

Thats Ok Max ,, Reason I asked is I recently downloaded and installed the HTW music pack for that Mod , It makes a big difference .
Ive gotten a bit of an idea how it all works and if I had suitable Roman music Im confident of being able to do something for your mod .
Any tips on sources for music anyone ?
~:cheers:

[Belisarivs]

Thats Ok Max ,, Reason I asked is I recently downloaded and installed the HTW music pack for that Mod , It makes a big difference .
Ive gotten a bit of an idea how it all works and if I had suitable Roman music Im confident of being able to do something for your mod .
Any tips on sources for music anyone ?
~:cheers:
How do you do this? I've found pretty simple technique. Convert sound to ogg (as it offers better compression with the same quality in comparison with mp3) with http://winvorbis.stationplaylist.com/WinVorbisSetup.exe or http://www.vorbis.com/files/1.0/windows/oggdropXPd.zip , download oggdec at http://www.rarewares.org/files/ogg/oggdec1.0.1.zip make batch file and anyone can decompress all files by simple doubleclick.

[dimitrios the samian]

Hello Belisarivs ,,
The HTW music pack came with tools to convert the files to wav and all i had to do was remove viking files and replace .
I will get the one's you suggest as it looks like you have used them succesfully .
Do you have any music that would suit the Mod ?
I was thinking music from some of the late 50's 60's Hollywood Movie's , like QuoVadis , Spartacus , Cleopatra etc etc .

[Belisarivs]

Sorry Dimitrios. I have none of them. :rtwno:

[dimitrios the samian]

Thats ok Belisarivs , i have none either , I just want opinions on what music would be suitable .. I will find out if those hollywood movies had soundtracks , talk to you later ...

[Hross af Guttenburg]

I think something really 'folky' and ancient sounding would suit the game more than classical music that we're so used to.
I think the Medieval Baebes do some really good rousing stuff that can be atmospheric too. Some songs are actually in LATIN and date from Roman times. Others are in Old Englsih and would suit the Germanic factions, I have a lot of Scandinavian folk music that would suit those factions. Mongolian throat-chanting would suit the nomadic factions. All of this real original authentic music is what influenced Activision's Total War music anyway....
Of course I have a lot of these in my PC if you wanna download 'em and try 'em out.... :charge:

[dimitrios the samian]

Hross , I haven't any of this type of music at all , So your files are a starting point .
I have plenty of time and a Music pak for Max's Mod would be excellent .
Lets get the project on the road .
~:cheers:

[Hross af Guttenburg]

Great! Let's get to work.
I sent you a PM with some details.

[maximus decimus meridius]

All.

Excellent !!
A music pack for Fall of Rome would be excellent !

Thanks mate !

~:cheers:

[Zero]

Ive just joined these forums and I started looking for mods for MTW, and yours was the first that caught my eye. Any idea when your going to release this mod? Since the Oct 15 release date was delayed? I am going head over heals for this mod.

[maximus decimus meridius]

Hi !


Very Very soon.

i'm making the last tests.

~:)

[Consul Flaminius]

Hi !


Very Very soon.

i'm making the last tests.

~:)

Can`t wait

[Zero]

Hi !


Very Very soon.

i'm making the last tests.

~:)

Nice, I also cant wait....

[Zero]

I was wondering...Are you going to have any new units in the version 3? Sarmatian Cavalry maybe?

[maximus decimus meridius]

YES !

light and heavy...

[Zero]

YES !

light and heavy...

Nice.\ ~:cheers: . I take it by your reply the version 3.0 is very near release. How many days left???? Im dying for it. Cant wait to try it out.

[JR-]

me too.

[Hross af Guttenburg]

Ok, it's been hard work but I have now completed the music pack for Fall of Rome. It includes all new music, from the frontend to the strat map and even in game play. Arabs and Persians unfortunately have the same music as the Steppe factions but this seems to suit them too, anyway the Steppe faction music is awesome!

I have no way of uploading the music pack onto the net however, all the files are quite large. If anyone is interested in putting up on their own site or even downloading directly from me, (I have a 10mbit connection so it's quick) you can contact me on through MSN messenger on rossalexdowning@hotmail.com

~:cheers:

[Empedocles]

how large are those flies?
THANKS FOR THE EFFORT YOU MADE!!!!
And thanks again to Maximus, I can't wait to play the mod. (my favourite of all MTW)

Diego, from Argentina

[Zero]

Ok, it's been hard work but I have now completed the music pack for Fall of Rome. It includes all new music, from the frontend to the strat map and even in game play. Arabs and Persians unfortunately have the same music as the Steppe factions but this seems to suit them too, anyway the Steppe faction music is awesome!

I have no way of uploading the music pack onto the net however, all the files are quite large. If anyone is interested in putting up on their own site or even downloading directly from me, (I have a 10mbit connection so it's quick) you can contact me on through MSN messenger on rossalexdowning@hotmail.com

~:cheers:

How big is it???

[Hross af Guttenburg]

Well, the files are about as large as the original game's wav files. I tried to mirror the original 'song' lengths etc, because i assume Creative Assembly knew what they were doing. So. anyway, there is a lot of new music there. ~:)

[Empedocles]

Well, the files are about as large as the original game's wav files. I tried to mirror the original 'song' lengths etc, because i assume Creative Assembly knew what they were doing. So. anyway, there is a lot of new music there. ~:)

I believe the Hellenic Total War mod team included a separate .zip file with their music but it was in smaller size files. maybe mp3, but they included a music convertor (dBpowerAMP Music Converter Release 10) and you have to convert those files to .wav so you could enjoy it.
What do you think?

Diego, from Argentina

[theseus79]

hi,
i'm new here, could someone point me which file to download the latest version of fall of rome mod? is it the Fall of Rome 2.0 then 2.1 version? or should i just wait for the release of the f.o.r. 3.0 version? will it (3.0 version) be a stand alone application? or will it also require the 2.0 and the 2.1 version?

[maximus decimus meridius]

theseus79.

Fall of Rome 3.0 will be upload next week in the download section of this website, it will not require older versions. it will only require a fresh installation of MTW-VI (patched to 2.01).

bye.

~:)

[Zero]

theseus79.

Fall of Rome 3.0 will be upload next week in the download section of this website, it will not require older versions. it will only require a fresh installation of MTW-VI (patched to 2.01).

bye.

~:)

Nice...Cant wait.

[theseus79]

theseus79.

Fall of Rome 3.0 will be upload next week in the download section of this website, it will not require older versions. it will only require a fresh installation of MTW-VI (patched to 2.01).

bye.

~:)

thanks, that would be great!

[Hross af Guttenburg]

Okay thanks to you Empodecles for your tip about the HTW music pack!

I' ve worked on the same principle and managed to get all the tracks onto the the ORG downloads section, it should be ready to download as soon as the Fall of Rome 3 mod files are up, I think there will be a link here in this thread to the files.

This is the music pack for FALL OF ROME version 3.
This includes ALL NEW MUSIC, leaving NO ORIGINAL MTW or VI music, it's great! :P It really adds atmosphere....
It includes samples of ancient germanic languages and latin, plus historically accurate Christian Roman, Pagan Germanic folk music and epic poetry taken from that era in their original languages. It also includes music from the Bulgar tribes and all the peoples across the Steppe to Mongolia. So there is a lot of authentic stuff there!
It took me a while to get it all to sound balanced. I think its worked out really well.

It might be possible to grab a download in advance before it moves onto the proper site, http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWupload/
anything dated october 29th 2004.....

one more thing -I'm fixing the last few problems with the portraits now, so there should be an all new portraits pack coming soon too! I'll let write here when its ready....

[dimitrios the samian]

Hross .... sounds like your music pack is gonna be one awesome acoustic experience , i also look forward to your portait pack as well .
Maximus .... Im looking forward to many more months of conquering with your mod to mate ... cheers to both of you and others that helped ~:cheers:

[jsadighi]

Could someone please post a link to the main Fall of Rome - TW site? I can't seem to find it in this thread.

[metatron]

Don't think there is one really. I could be mistaken though...

[metatron]

Okay thanks to you Empodecles for your tip about the HTW music pack!

I' ve worked on the same principle and managed to get all the tracks onto the the ORG downloads section, it should be ready to download as soon as the Fall of Rome 3 mod files are up, I think there will be a link here in this thread to the files.

This is the music pack for FALL OF ROME version 3.
This includes ALL NEW MUSIC, leaving NO ORIGINAL MTW or VI music, it's great! :P It really adds atmosphere....
It includes samples of ancient germanic languages and latin, plus historically accurate Christian Roman, Pagan Germanic folk music and epic poetry taken from that era in their original languages. It also includes music from the Bulgar tribes and all the peoples across the Steppe to Mongolia. So there is a lot of authentic stuff there!
It took me a while to get it all to sound balanced. I think its worked out really well.

It might be possible to grab a download in advance before it moves onto the proper site, http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWupload/
anything dated october 29th 2004.....

one more thing -I'm fixing the last few problems with the portraits now, so there should be an all new portraits pack coming soon too! I'll let write here when its ready....Did you forget a Eurowin? Just wondering...

[Hross af Guttenburg]

Looks like it! :embarassed:
Thanks, I'll load it up right now...

Let me know if there was anything else...

[metatron]

Well, there is one thing... Could you kindly credit what the songs are and who by?

Thanks btw, this is really great.

[Belisarivs]

Hi guys.
If you are interested in soundpacks have a look at my post page earlier. Might be interesting. I would suggest it, because those files are very large to download until you want to have 200 MB mod. Personally, it isn't my problem as I can run at MB/s, but someone can have serious problems with downloading such large mod. Loosy compression (especially OGG, as described in my previous post) offers lot smaller size and reasonable qaulity.

Max,
sorry but I have merely time for school. When I had to start over my HDD started behave abnormally. Now it is OK, but when I have to use oridinal palete, it will be lot harder because I can't use lot of Photoshop functions.

I know, I promised it, but I can't for now, sorry. I'll modiffy that loading screen and send it to you next week. Bye. :embarassed:

[maximus decimus meridius]

Hross.

thanks a lot for the music ... the mod will be more funny.

ps. i have some problems with msn messenger cause my job firewall, anyway i'm downloading the music pack from the org..

Belisarius.

no problem, really. the new loading screen will be very appreciate !!

~:)

[maximus decimus meridius]

Hross.

thanks a lot for the music ... the mod will be more funny.

ps. i have some problems with msn messenger cause my job firewall, anyway i'm downloading the music pack from the org..

Belisarius.

no problem, really. the new loading screen will be very appreciate !!

~:)

[Empedocles]

can anyone post a link to the music files? because I can't find them!!

diego, from ARgnetina

[theseus79]

is it just me or not? i dunno how to describe it but the music just doesn't sound right, it just doesn't fit with the game and it sounds hella funny to me. lol
sorry, no offense intended.

[theseus79]

can anyone post a link to the music files? because I can't find them!!

diego, from ARgnetina

http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/M...oads/MTWupload/

[jsadighi]

How are people downloading this mod when there is no site to download from. I checked The Org Mod links and not one is listed as having this mod. I'm so confused!!!!!! :help:

[Hross af Guttenburg]

is it just me or not? i dunno how to describe it but the music just doesn't sound right, it just doesn't fit with the game and it sounds hella funny to me. lol
sorry, no offense intended.

No offense taken, well.... I was trying to get as close to the period as possible which is why I have only chosen music from that era or poetry/folk songs that are said to date from those times. That's why I felt secure I was making a good music pack that reflected the true spirit of those times and cultures rather than just what I wanted to hear. I think it might surprise a few people as what we assume and think of as Roman music or Germanic music is completely different from the reality. But it is the historical reality I was trying to reflect. Can't please everyone. The music pack is not part of Maximus's mod -it's optional. So don't like it- don't use it!
Thanks for the comments anyway.

PS It's important that the right factions get the right music too....It's important that you follow the instructions in the readme file. This should be posted into each start pos campaign file:

//========================================
//
// Declares which type of music is
// associated with a given faction.
// 0 is Arab, 1 is Western European
// and 2 is Viking..
//
//========================================

SetFactionMusic:: FN_REBEL 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_ALMOHAD 0
SetFactionMusic:: FN_BYZANTINE 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_DANISH 2
SetFactionMusic:: FN_EGYPTIAN 0
SetFactionMusic:: FN_ENGLISH 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_FRENCH 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_GERMAN_HRE 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_ITALIAN 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_POLISH 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_RUSSIAN 2
SetFactionMusic:: FN_SPANISH 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_TURKISH 0
SetFactionMusic:: FN_ARAGONESE 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_HUNGARIAN 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_SICILIAN 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_BURGUNDIAN 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_GOLDEN_HORDE 2
SetFactionMusic:: FN_NOVGOROD 2
SetFactionMusic:: FN_PAPIST 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_SWISS 1

[Zero]

How are people downloading this mod when there is no site to download from. I checked The Org Mod links and not one is listed as having this mod. I'm so confused!!!!!! :help:

http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/PHPMTW/Stats.php

look for the Fall of Rome downloads.

[theseus79]

No offense taken, well.... I was trying to get as close to the period as possible which is why I have only chosen music from that era or poetry/folk songs that are said to date from those times. That's why I felt secure I was making a good music pack that reflected the true spirit of those times and cultures rather than just what I wanted to hear. I think it might surprise a few people as what we assume and think of as Roman music or Germanic music is completely different from the reality. But it is the historical reality I was trying to reflect. Can't please everyone. The music pack is not part of Maximus's mod -it's optional. So don't like it- don't use it!
Thanks for the comments anyway.

PS It's important that the right factions get the right music too....It's important that you follow the instructions in the readme file. This should be posted into each start pos campaign file:

//========================================
//
// Declares which type of music is
// associated with a given faction.
// 0 is Arab, 1 is Western European
// and 2 is Viking..
//
//========================================

SetFactionMusic:: FN_REBEL 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_ALMOHAD 0
SetFactionMusic:: FN_BYZANTINE 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_DANISH 2
SetFactionMusic:: FN_EGYPTIAN 0
SetFactionMusic:: FN_ENGLISH 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_FRENCH 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_GERMAN_HRE 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_ITALIAN 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_POLISH 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_RUSSIAN 2
SetFactionMusic:: FN_SPANISH 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_TURKISH 0
SetFactionMusic:: FN_ARAGONESE 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_HUNGARIAN 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_SICILIAN 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_BURGUNDIAN 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_GOLDEN_HORDE 2
SetFactionMusic:: FN_NOVGOROD 2
SetFactionMusic:: FN_PAPIST 1
SetFactionMusic:: FN_SWISS 1

ah, just ignore my post. maybe i'm a little ignorant, thinking maybe the music would somewhat resemble those heard in the TROY or the KING ARTHUR movie. ~D

[Empedocles]

Ok, people I'm stupid.
I can't find the Fall of rome 3.0 download!!!! where is it? Has it been upload yet?
Because you seems to have played it and I can't find it.
HEEEELLLPPPP

Diego, from Argentina

PS: Can't wait to play the mod, although I'm kicking Egypt rear as the Brutii!!!

[metatron]

^If it has, I haven't heard about it.

[JR-]

is this mod still in development?

[metatron]

It's supposed to be out any day now...

[maximus decimus meridius]

Fall of Rome 3.0 Mod for Medieval Total War - Viking Invasion.

I'm happy to announce you that i have uploaded the new version of the mod, you can find it in the download section of this forum.

DESCRIPTION

This mod is intended only for personal use and not for commercial use.
Fall of Rome 3.0 should cover the period between 370AD and 800/850AD, basically there are the following factions:

The West Romans
The East Romans
The Maxentius Romans (only in the 305ad campaign)
The Kingdom of Soissons (only in the 470ad campaign)
The African romans (only in the 430ad campaign)
The Romano - british
The Visigoths
The ostrogoths
The Swabians
The Germans
The Franks
The Anglo-saxons
The Vandals
The Lombards
The Danish
The Kingdom of Bosphorus
The Huns/Bulgars
The Avars
The Persians
The Arabs

The available campaign are four, in details they are:
304ad
374ad
430ad
470ad
572ad

The German and eastern tribes have 2 separated small tech trees, these are developed only in the tech level 1.

Besides there are some new units in the mod:
Balistarii
Equites Mauri
Sagittarii
Milites Limitanei
Domestici
Legio Palatinae
Legio Comitatensis
Auxilia Palatina
Equites Scutarii
Equites Sagittarii Clibanarii
Equites Dalmatae
Lanciarii
Scholae Palatinae
Buccellarii
Praetoriani
Equites Catafractarii
Cuneus Equitum
Legio Pseudocomitatenses
Romano-British warbands
Milites Equites
Milites Pedites
Romano-british knights
Alan cataphracts
Sarmatian Heavy Cavalry
Sarmatian infantry
Bosphoran spearmen
Bosphoran Royal cavalry
Excubitores
Foederati
Skoutatoi Spearmen
Kataphraktoi
Byzantine Infantry
Tagmata Cavalry
Isaurian Infantry

Visigothic Gardingi Cavalry
Visigothic Cavalry
Vandal Heavy Cavalry
Rugian Warriors
Turingian Warriors
Scola Cavalry
Breton cavalry
Swabian swordsmen
Heruli Warbands
VisiGothic Infantry
Ostrogothic Saiones Cavalry
Ostrogothic Heavy Cavalry
Gothic Spearmen
Burgundian Infantry
Saxon Infantry
Alamannic Warbands
Warbands
Lombard Gasindii Cavalry
Scara Infantry
Farae warbands
Gepid Lancers
Gepid Infantry

Avar Horse Archers
Avar Heavy Cavalry
Bulgar Royal Cavalry
Slav cavalry
Bulgar Cavalry
Bulgar Infantry
Hun Cavalry
Hun Nobles

Persian Clibanarii
Sassanian infantry
Diqan cavalry
Turkish Tarkhan Cavalry
Hephtalite Heavy Cavalry
Khwarizmian HorseArchers
Andalusian Cav
Armenian Infantry
Daylami infantry
Half armoured horse
plus others original MTW-VI units

Added also some famous generals like:
Aetius
Stilicho
Ricimer
Aspar
Belisarius

The mod has been tested only in single player, and it doesn't work with the original campmap\startpos campaigns.
The G.A. points are not available.

INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS:

PLEASE FOLLOW CAREFULLY THESE INSTRUCTIONS
You need a fresh installation of Medieval - Total war VI, patched to 2.01.
THE MOD WILL OVERWRITE THE ORIGINAL FILES OF MTW-VI, so BACKUP THEM!

Unzip (overwrite all the files!):
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_MAIN.ZIP" file in your MTW-VI main folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_CAMPMAP.ZIP" file in your MTW-VI/campmap folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_PORTRAITS.ZIP" file in your MTW-VI/campmap folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_BUILDINGS.ZIP" file in your MTW-VI/campmap/Info_pics folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_UNITS1.ZIP" file in your MTW-VI/campmap/Info_pics/Units folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_UNITS2.ZIP" file in your MTW-VI/campmap/Info_pics/Units folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESCAMPMAP.ZIP" in your MTW-VI/Textures folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESITEMS.ZIP" in your MTW-VI/textures/men folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESMAINMEN.ZIP" in your MTW-VI/textures/men folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESmen1.ZIP" in your MTW-VI/textures/men folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESmen2.ZIP" in your MTW-VI/textures/men folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESmen3.ZIP" in your MTW-VI/textures/men folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESmen4.ZIP" in your MTW-VI/textures/men folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESmen5.ZIP" in your MTW-VI/textures/men folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESmen6.ZIP" in your MTW-VI/textures/men folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESmen7.ZIP" in your MTW-VI/textures/men folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESmen8.ZIP" in your MTW-VI/textures/men folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESmen9.ZIP" in your MTW-VI/textures/men folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESmen10.ZIP" in your MTW-VI/textures/men folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESmen11.ZIP" in your MTW-VI/textures/men folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESmen12.ZIP" in your MTW-VI/textures/men folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESmen13.ZIP" in your MTW-VI/textures/men folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESmen14.ZIP" in your MTW-VI/textures/men folder
"FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESArmHorse.ZIP" in your MTW-VI/textures/men folder


Thanks to Sicilian Vespers, Hross_af_Guttenburg, Belisarius, Empedocles, whitout their help this mod wouldn't be so accurate i think. Thanks to Duke John for some of the mod unitgraphics.

Bibliograpy.
The Notitia Dignitatum
Ammianus Marcellinus Historiae
Jordanes De Getarum
Procopius of Caesarea History of the wars
Cambridge University Press The Cambridge Medieval History
A.H.M. Jones The Later Roman Empire
G. Ravegnani Byzantine soldiers in Justinian's age
G. Ostrogorsky History of the Byzantine Empire
A. Toynbee Constantine Porphyrogenitus and his world
L. Brehier Vie et morte de Byzance
Osprey Books

plus others several articles and books...
:charge:

max

[maximus decimus meridius]

Another post.. only to inform you.

there will be 3.1 version with a new campaign based on the struggle between Aurelianus and the Kingdom of Palmyra in 275ad, a new faction "the Palmyrans", and some new units like:

palmyran cataphracts
palmyran infantry
foederatoi infantry
Equites Armigeri

bye

max

:charge:

[JR-]

fantastic stuff, will get it later. :)

[theseus79]

wonderful! i've been waiting for this mod since last month. ~:)

[Empedocles]

Another post.. only to inform you.

there will be 3.1 version with a new campaign based on the struggle between Aurelianus and the Kingdom of Palmyra in 275ad,

:charge:


YES!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! I hope I can help you with the historical part. (sorry for my misbehavior in 3.0!) :bow:


Another thing, can anyone post a link to the 3.0 download? Cause I can't find the file!!!

Diego, from Argentina

[theseus79]

YES!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! I hope I can help you with the historical part. (sorry for my misbehavior in 3.0!) :bow:


Another thing, can anyone post a link to the 3.0 download? Cause I can't find the file!!!

Diego, from Argentina

http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWupload/

[JR-]

lovely, now where is the all-in-one .exe for the useless and lazy like myself? :help:

[kataphraktoi]

Any chance of this being translated to RTW soon? ANy plans??

[metatron]

God be praised!

[maximus decimus meridius]

All.
I hope you enjoy the mod, but please report to me any bug.

Peregrine_Tergiversate.
Sorry, for the moment only separated files are available, the problem is that i can upload only 2048 Kb each time in the upload section.... but you can follow carefully the install instructions mentioned above.

kataphraktoi.
I hope so but there are 2 problems: i haven't RTW ~:mecry: (but i hope yo buy it asap... ~D ), and i'm not a good 3d graphic designer, in this case any help would be much appreciated.
~:grouphug:

bye

:charge:

[dimitrios the samian]

Excellent Max ,,,, downloaded it all last night and looking forward to unzipping it all today . I will keep you informed of any bugs/problems and i look forward to your extra campaign .. ~:cheers:

[dimitrios the samian]

Ok Max ,, I unzipped it all with no problems and I like what i see so far , nice descriptions for the periods and for the factions .
I began by playing some custom battles and noticed one huge graphical problem ... The GEPID LANCERS flash , they are half invisible and move as if walking when standing still , in battle they seem half the graphics are in the ground .
Also the AVAR HEAVY CAVALRY do the same thing when i had a custom battle in the Justinian period .
Im hoping nobody else has this glitch and its just my download , so perhaps just the code for these so far as an overwrite will solve my problem .
cheers .....THIS IS A GREAT MOD .... ~:cheers:

[maximus decimus meridius]

My god! maybe this is a bug! i'll do some tests with download files ... only one question, only the men bodies have the problem or also the horses bodies have it?

The answer is important for me, thanks a lot for your infos.

max

[Empedocles]

Maximus, I've downloaded the mod and I believe it's great! I 've played few turns in the 470Ad campaing (expert) and I can't be happier. Althoug I see that after the turns end no description of buildings constructed appears!! Is it correct or have I download something wrong?
Also the emperor of the west have a really barbarian name! (and an ugly barbarian face) Was this your intention?
I see that you have make crusades avaiable to barbarians as invasions! Great work! those lombards are attacking milan but I managed to hold them back.
Another question: is it correct that in rome you can only build priest and diplomats? because I believe you should build some auxilia troops or at least mercs!! (which they never appear in the Milan Inn)

hope not to be bothering!! THANKS!

Diego, from Argentina

[dimitrios the samian]

Only the Cavalry Max .... Are your Gepid Lancer and Avar Heavy Ok Empedocles ?

[maximus decimus meridius]

Empedocles.
About the descriptions of the buildings... they should appear at the end of the turn, i'll do some tests on my pc.... and yes the name of the West roman emperor should be Odovacar , the king of Heruli who removed Romolus Augustus the last emperor and that became the real ruler of the Western Roman empire after the 476AD.

Beside i've made most of the roman units buildable only in specific provinces, for instance Auxilia (Gallic and German troops) are buildable only in gaul, north africa, britain, spain and balkans; italy in that period wasn't a good recruitment area.

All.
I think to have understood the problem with the half armoured horse of the gepid lancers and the avar cavalry, i'll do a test this evening and i'll upload a patch in the next days.

happy to see that you like the mod

~D

[Dux Syagrius]

I'm getting a crash to desktop after I select the game difficulty. Is anyone else having the same problem? I'm pretty sure I placed the files in the proper folders...

[Aurelian]

Hello Maximus,

I have been slowly downloading the individual "Fall of Rome" zips you posted on the 8th at this (http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWupload/) site.

So far, I've grabbed 15 of the 24 (or so) zips you posted.

Today I went online to download the rest of them, and it looks like you replaced them all with one big beefy 28M download.

This isn't a huge problem for me (I can just download it overnight), but are the smaller zips downloadable from another site?

Also, is there an installer in the new download or do we have to follow the same procedure?

Anyway, thanks for the hard work, and I'm looking forward to your mod!

[Pericles]

Another post.. only to inform you.

there will be 3.1 version with a new campaign based on the struggle between Aurelianus and the Kingdom of Palmyra in 275ad, a new faction "the Palmyrans", and some new units like:

palmyran cataphracts
palmyran infantry
foederatoi infantry
Equites Armigeri

bye

max

:charge:


When will version 3.1 be available?

Thanks for all the hard work :)

[dimitrios the samian]

Hey Pericles , give Maximus some space dude ,, he said its coming so just be patient !! keep playing and looking for bugs ..... are your Gepid Lancers and Avar Heavy Cavalry ok ? ...Do you experience CTD anywhere ? ... etc etc

[metatron]

My God, it's so beautiful... Thanks Meridius.

[maximus decimus meridius]

All.

At the moment i'm changing my pc with a new one (an Athlon 64 ...~D ..) but i have huge problems with a serial ata disk ... i don't be able to install it, and it's very frustrating!
so i think i will be able to work on the reported bug in the next days i hope ... it all depends on that hellish disk.
Anyway i think that the Avarheavycav/Gepidlancers bug depends on some scripts linked to ArmHorse unitgraphic...

Dux Syagrius.
mmmhhh... this is strange, only a stupid question, have you installed the MTW-VI 2.01 patch?

Aurelian.
Barocca has joined the single zip files into a new one, so the install procedure is the same, sorry...

please report any bugs guys, i'm trying to solve my pc problems, and after i'll solve the bugs.

max

[JR-]

All.

At the moment i'm changing my pc with a new one (an Athlon 64 ...~D ..) but i have huge problems with a serial ata disk ... i don't be able to install it, and it's very frustrating!
so i think i will be able to work on the reported bug in the next days i hope ... it all depends on that hellish disk.

Aurelian.
Barocca has joined the single zip files into a new one, so the install procedure is the same, sorry..

i will be doing the same soon enough. :D

would some knowledgeable fellow like barroca be willing to create an installer for your fall of rome mod?
i presume what barocca has done thus far is to aggregate the separate zip files into one big one?

any ETA on 3.1?

cheers

PeegeeTips

[Pericles]

Hey Pericles , give Maximus some space dude ,, he said its coming so just be patient !! keep playing and looking for bugs ..... are your Gepid Lancers and Avar Heavy Cavalry ok ? ...Do you experience CTD anywhere ? ... etc etc

Heheh

No problem - just wondering. . .

This sounds like a great mod

Cheers!

[maximus decimus meridius]

Ok i have resolved my new pc problems, and i'm here.

dimitrios the samian.
i have downloaded all the zip files from the org in order to be sure to do what the other people have done, then i have unzippe the files into a fresh installation of MTW-VI.
i have not any problems with the Avar heavy cav and Gepid lancers unitgraphics, i think that you haven't unzipped the FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESArmHorse.zip into MTW_VI/Textures/men folder, please try this solution and all should work, i think.

max

[Pericles]

Ok i have resolved my new pc problems, and i'm here.

dimitrios the samian.
i have downloaded all the zip files from the org in order to be sure to do what the other people have done, then i have unzippe the files into a fresh installation of MTW-VI.
i have not any problems with the Avar heavy cav and Gepid lancers unitgraphics, i think that you haven't unzipped the FALL_OF_ROME_30_TEXTURESArmHorse.zip into MTW_VI/Textures/men folder, please try this solution and all should work, i think.

max

Thanks for all the great work.

I think many of the problems are coming from people who are unzipping files into wrong folders, etc, etc. . .

It woud be very helpful if someone could place all the files of this Mod into an exe file that could automatically unzip all files into the appropriate game folders.

This would help solve many of the issues people seem to be having.

Just a suggestion.

Cheers!

[dimitrios the samian]

Hi Max.... It worked ..and the Gepid and Avar cav are very nice as well .
I played my first campaign in early yesterday as Bosphorans and after 15 or so years made very little progress , I claimed one extra territoy but the Ostrogoths fought back reclaimed it and were too strong ..Im gonna start another one tonite and use different tactics .... no problems in that so far .. ~:cheers:

[NormanPain]

Any screenshots?

[BabylonTW]

I herd alot about this mod and i am downloading it now but i have an suggestion add an expansion like Carthage Invasion or something would be very fun i cant get rtw for a long time im broke (NO CASH SUXS) so thats not an option just a suggestion later

[Belisarivs]

I herd alot about this mod and i am downloading it now but i have an suggestion add an expansion like Carthage Invasion or something would be very fun i cant get rtw for a long time im broke (NO CASH SUXS) so thats not an option just a suggestion later

Sorry mate, but this mod dates to end of western part of Empire and war with Carthage was few centuries earlier. Or do you think about reconquest of Justinian or something else?

[Belisarivs]

Max,
I've tried Twilight of the Empire and it was really cool. My West Roman Empire (at expert difficulty, there isn't any other difficulty I can recommend) was attacked by Germans, Franks and Suebs at first turn and they launched their invasions as well. After few defeats half of my empire rebelled (but I didn't packet with rebels), I lost entire Spain, North Africa (except Tunisia) and I had to create chain of my ships to be able to send reinforcements from north africa to Europe. My Emperor Odovacrius (I've never heard this name, who was it his name sounds german like Odoacer) had influence only two crowns (in description was written, that my voice is only seldom heard), but with his four stars he was best commander of my armies, I fought back, destroyed main forces of Germans (but their raid towards Rome was successful, though it wasn't such loss, because I couldn't train any army there and it was meanwhile Rebellious), then almost all rebellious provinces returned to my hands (in one turn, they just turned from rebellious to West Roman), with new buildings and soldiers (but this was during reign of his son Valentinianus II), who immediately gained influence 9 crowns (in description was written, that if someone doesn't listen your voice, risks many), then I defeated main forces of Franks, Vandals (whose raid captured Orleans) and Suebs. Franks and Germans were utterly destroyed in same year and now it becomes quite boring, because I'm richest, strongest, most advanced and not just eager to fight with Byzantium (not because I'm afraid, I just like Byzantines and even when it's game I try to avoid their destruction by my armies.

It's great mod and I have some questions.
I have problems with loyalty of my generals and provinces. I have to hold quite large (400 - 500 men) armies almost everywhere. I haven't encountered it in MTW before, I've heard about disloyalty when you conquered very large area, but I've only reconquered West portion of Roman Empire (and only slightly more - to Bohemia), defeats are unknown to my army (if I don't count first 10 turns) my Imperator was Trader and Magnificent Builder (he died and was replaced by his son). And I still continue in course of rebuilding of the Empire.

Another question is about portraits. I know that Rome was influenced by barbarians, but why they use portraits from vikings as well as east Romans?

I want to ask about campaign dating to 470. Why West Romans don't have Legions? AFAIK East Roman infantry was trained in same style as West Roman (they used same formations) and IMHO, West Roman would continue to train Legions, but these wouldn't be so numerous as Cavalry units.

I think that this is incorrection of your mod, that West Romans almost cannot train cavalry, but AFAIK late Roman army was from 1/2 cavalry, at least.
But Late Roman Legions were shadow of their former glory. Lorica segmentata was abandoned, Gladius was replaced by Spatha (IMHO because soldiers conscripted from barbarians changed Roman fighting style from disciplined fight of formation as one man, where short sword offered advantage in pressure of battle, to that barbaric style of undisciplined horde where Spatha offered longer range for this) Scutum was replaced by oval shield (reflecting fact that Turtle formation wasn't needed because AFAIK only Huns used archers in greater numbers) and one heavy pilla were replaced by more and smaller spears (reflecting fact that numbers of enemies increased while quality of their equipment decreased).

At the end I want to say that your mod is really cool. BTW I've altered that Loading Screen, but I forgot it at home so effect is the same as if I didn't do anything. I'll try to send it next weak.
Bye :knight:

[dimitrios the samian]

Excellent stuff Max ..!! ..Im enjoying the mod ..very challenging .. I have put in a few hours as the Bosphorans in the earliest period and i haven't expanded at all .. I will return to them later in the week and try different tactics again .
Anyway today I started another early period campaign with Arabsin hard difficulty and it to is very very difficult ...i attacked the Romans and was crushed ,, I will try again tommorow .
So far with these two factions " green light ".. no problems or glitches at all ...
I look forward playing the Danes later in the week ...
Belisarivs the loading screen would be excellent ... will you improve the portraits as well ?... cheers ~:cheers:

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NormanPain ..have you downloaded it yet ?
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Babylon TW ,, Hows your mod coming along ? any progress ?

[Empedocles]

Max, it's the best mod for MTW I've played!
In my case I played the 470 ad campaing in expert and found it difficult to hold my empire. In my first try I was crushed by many barbarians invasions (so good!!!) that destroyed my empire and civil war ended my life!

Next I gave it another try and have managed so far to hold the territories and conquered tyrolia (I use MTW names)
Suggestions for players in 470 campaing:

Build as many buildings as you can so your emperor gets the +X loyalty for all generals!
Build Inns (speccialy in Provence) because you will need mercernaries!
In Milan build a horse breed and spearmaker workshoop so you can train cavalry, and try to hold Austria because you have nice infantry there! (if neccesary abandon croatia)

Ok, thanks!

Diego, from Argentina

[jsadighi]

Hi, great mod you guys have made. Just a couple of things though:

1) Persia is not a Muslim faction. IIRC the Persians were actually Zoroastrians until the huge Muslim Barbarian invasion wiped out the riligion. Perhaps you could consider changing them to a Pagan faction or may be Aryan, afterall the Persians were the first ever Aryans. ~;)

2) I'm currently having a blast with the Romano-British but I've been getting Barbarian invasions up the wahzooo. After finally driving the Saxons out of Britain, two factions (I think it was the Franks and the Vandals) suddenly start barbarian invasions against me! Is this normal? Or may be it's because I'm use to playing as a Catholic faction in regular MTW - VI. ~:confused:

[maximus decimus meridius]

All.

About the portraits, i've found them in the game. so it's for this reason i've utilized, it has been a quick way to solve a problem. sorry..

About the disloyal generals, well in that period political and military revolts were a really frequent affair, generals and dux rvolted against the last emperors a thing that at the end came to the disaster.
so i've tried to remake this situation in my mod....

About the 470AD, it was at this time that there were the major military changes in the Roman army, Infantry lost its importance and cavalry became the most important part of the army.
This change occurred, probably, durng the reign of Anastasius II. Justinian only made use of this new type of army...

thanks for the boot screen, i'll put in the next release ....

bye

max

:charge:

[Belisarivs]

About the disloyal generals, well in that period political and military revolts were a really frequent affair, generals and dux rvolted against the last emperors a thing that at the end came to the disaster.
so i've tried to remake this situation in my mod....
:charge:

Yes I know it. Can I ask you how did you achieve it?

BTW, my ICQ 289601727.

[Empedocles]

Ok, back in my 470 expert West Roman campaing:
goths have crushed my armies and I have to give up and start another campaing. Is it me or West Romans have no possibility of raising armies (even for the Limitanaei!!!). This is one of the most difficult campaings ever played! Way to go!

Diego, from Argentina

[NormanPain]

Excellent stuff Max ..!! ..Im enjoying the mod ..very challenging .. I have put in a few hours as the Bosphorans in the earliest period and i haven't expanded at all .. I will return to them later in the week and try different tactics again .
Anyway today I started another early period campaign with Arabsin hard difficulty and it to is very very difficult ...i attacked the Romans and was crushed ,, I will try again tommorow .
So far with these two factions " green light ".. no problems or glitches at all ...
I look forward playing the Danes later in the week ...
Belisarivs the loading screen would be excellent ... will you improve the portraits as well ?... cheers ~:cheers:

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NormanPain ..have you downloaded it yet ?
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Babylon TW ,, Hows your mod coming along ? any progress ?


Nope Havent downloaded it yet, currently have Pike and Musket mod installed as I am helping with the music pack...just wondering if this has custom units and if so, what they look like, I imagine that if it does they look good though judging by reactions to this mod, just strange to me there is no Screenshots. Anyways...I love late roman era/early dark ages, so I will probably download when Im done with the music for P&M. ~:cheers:

[NormanPain]

Where can I download this?

[maximus decimus meridius]

from


http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWupload/

bye

max

[dimitrios the samian]

Hi Max ,, Started playing with a small faction again yesterday , this time the Danes in early ..
In the campaign selection screen I notice the Danes are the same colour as the Romans "white" ... also two reds as well , this will cause confusion on other maps later in the game .
I also noticed you have named the regions differently as Denmark is Anglia neighbours are now called Hyberboria and Scandia etc etc .. is it possible to change the names on the maps ?
One other strange thing occured ,,i built an Inn in Anglia and i had plenty of Arab infantry and Camels up their ? was that normal back then ? cheers

[maximus decimus meridius]

Belisarius.
The first source could be the Cambridge Medieval History, anyway please see the mod bibliograpy, that should help you...

dimitrios the samian.
I'll do some changes in faction colours in the next release; about the strategic map, i haven't planned to change the country names, if someone wants to do it i'll be very happy.
About the mercenaries, i think that the number and type of mercenary units depend on the strategic situation of the enemy factions and also depends on the attraction of your country.

bye

max

:charge:

[SicilianVespers]

Great work Max! it was well worth the wait! ~:cheers:

I ran into a bug while playing the 470 AD campaign as the West Romans. The game would randomly lock up between turns, when it cycles thru the portraits. After doing some research via -ian, it seems it was caused by the Anglo-Saxons launching a crusade against Constantinople. The Crusade message appeared, asking for a 750 Solidii bribe for the Pope's approval, once I clicked OK it promptly froze. It's probably caused by the Papacy not being a proper faction.

Has anyone else run into this?

[Belisarivs]

Thanx.
I'll send you that new loading screen tomorrow. I've also made FoR installer. 16 MB size, installer (but I'm too lazy to make uninstaller) with all files (but I forgot to add that new loading screen). Any idea where I can place it?
I'm also making new map (i mean MapTex.tga and MapTex2.tga). It need some polishing but looks promising. Do you want to send it?

Could you make cavalry easier available for West Romans? If they replaced Legions by cavalry it should be easier available. I've almost won campaign and still can't train heavier cavalry. All my Emperors are Magnificent Builders.

[maximus decimus meridius]

Belisarius.
Thanks!
can you send me the new load screen and the FOR installer all at:

maximus2004ad@yahoo.com

and please yes send me also the new maps, it seems to me that it is very promising.

about the cavalry, i think that there will be some changes in the next release.

bye

SicilianVespers.
Hi!
Thanks alot for your help, i'll do some tests about your problem, and
please report any other bug you 'll notice.

:charge:

bye max

[Belisarivs]

Belisarius.
Thanks!
can you send me the new load screen and the FOR installer all at:

maximus2004ad@yahoo.com

and please yes send me also the new maps, it seems to me that it is very promising.

I'll try. If not today then tomorrow for certain. I created new mailbox in yahoo. So don't be surprised. vpelcak@yahoo.co.uk . That new map reflects shapes of the surface like standard maps, but it will be pretty difficult to synchronize it with shapes of provinces.
What is better (or rather easier), change maptex or shapes of provinces?
BTW it looks cool.



about the cavalry, i think that there will be some changes in the next release.
bye max
Cool.

About that installer. You can do it on your own if you wish, just download http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/nsis/nsis202.exe , then install, then make zip package with correct dir stricture, then run zip2exe in Bin folder in folder where you installed NSIS and finally open that zip in it, set some settings and click generate. Voila.
I will send that installer to you though.

[Belisarivs]

I want ask something. How can I take screenshots? Print Screen doesn't seem working. Where are those screenshots stored in game folder?

[maximus decimus meridius]

you have to use the "print" key on the keyboard, then open microsoft paint , select new document, and "paste" the picture. in the end save the picture.

i've tried to use the load screen but when i try to import the picture (in .bmp format) into readbif (to make a load.bif file...) the palette colours is corrupted .... ~:mecry:

[dimitrios the samian]

Hi Max ,, Im enjoying my early Danish campaign awesome !! after some 20 odd years im finally beginning to make some money and have captured parts of Northern Europe ,, Im looking forward to further expansion and bigger battles to come ...Ok ... one question is it possible for me to switch off or modify the files so Arab mercanaries don't appear in Scandinavia ?...cheers

[SicilianVespers]

Max,
I am playing the Justinian campaign right now, you gotta love Belisarius :charge:

I have conquered the Vandal kingdom, but went bankrupt. I have finally turned my economy around, but the Ostrogoths are so powerful now. I am going to send Belisarius up thru Sicily, and Narses thru Histria.

I have a suggestion for the next release. I have changed the Barques into Boats and Caravels into Longboat2's, for the barbarian factions. I also gave the Ostrogoths, Vandals and Visigoths Galleys (Cogs) and Wargalleys (Curracks), buildable only on the Mediterranean coast of Africa, Spain, and Italy.

I made the Barbarian galleys a little more expensive. 700 & 1000 i believe, and a little more expensive to maintain.

I am also going to hijack the other ship slots for the rest of the Viking ships for the Danes.

This is definitely still my favorite mod.

[Belisarivs]

you have to use the "print" key on the keyboard, then open microsoft paint , select new document, and "paste" the picture. in the end save the picture.

i've tried to use the load screen but when i try to import the picture (in .bmp format) into readbif (to make a load.bif file...) the palette colours is corrupted .... ~:mecry:

Try to convert it to tga. Find loadscreen.tga (or something this way) and replace it with my loadscreen. I've tried it with one I sent to BKB and it worked.

[maximus decimus meridius]

Belisarius.

thanks! maybe i've made a mistake with something, i'll try what you have done.


Sicilian vespers.

Hi! nice changes! i'll put them in the next release surely.


All.

i think to release the next version within the month of december, cause i'm very involved in helping the Middle Earth Total War team.

~:cheers:

[JR-]

cool. any chance of some clever bod taking your files and packaging it into once .exe for thickits like me?

which ME:TW are you working on? the M:TW version, or the new R:TW project?

[Belisarivs]

Belisarius.

thanks! maybe i've made a mistake with something, i'll try what you have done.



I don't think that you made mistake. That bif file really exists. But it seems to be working when this tga is replaced.




All.

i think to release the next version within the month of december, cause i'm very involved in helping the Middle Earth Total War team.

~:cheers:
Fine.
As I said million times before (I hope that this didn't start to be annoying): download NSIS http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/nsis/nsis202.exe?download then install it, make zip file with correct folder structure, go to Bin folder (in folder where you installed NSIS) run zip2exe.exe, open that zip file with it, set some settings (setting lzma compression is suggested), click generate, wait for while.......

[maximus decimus meridius]

Belisarius.

Thanks a lot ! the load screen works now!

~:cheers:

[JR-]

3.1.......................?

[maximus decimus meridius]

within the end of december ......


.... i'm very involved in the METW mod.

bye

max~:)

[JR-]

cheers.

[JR-]

any chance of 3.1 by Dec 21st?

i have ordered the bits for a new PC for my father, and a copy of M:TW, and i will travel on the 22nd to go and build it for him.

i will take N:TW, XL, and H:TW, i would love to take FOR as well.......

i know you're busy, just hoping. :beer:

[maximus decimus meridius]

Sorry no chance for the 21st Dec.

:no:

i have programmed to release it within the end of dec.

bye
max

[JR-]

no problem, i shall look forward to it whenever it arrives, have a good Xmas. :bow:

[maximus decimus meridius]

thanks!

[Aurelian]

Maximus! I just wanted to compliment you on your mod. You did a great job. I've been playing "Fall of Rome" for the last week or so, and I've enjoyed it thoroughly. My favorite campaign so far has been playing the Western Romans in the "Twilight of the West" campaign.

I have particularly liked the Barbarian Invasion/Crusades. A huge stack of barbarians determinedly driving towards your richest provinces gets your attention in a hurry.

I was curious though about the stats for the various units. If you happen to have a list of the unit types and their stats, I'd love to take a look at it.

Thanks!

[metatron]

^Indeed. I have found that the path to victory lies in linking with the other Romans and bulking up your armies with whatever you can muster from the Empire. Mercenaries work wonders.

It's hard, but aside from the Goths, I'm doing alright. I suppose my campaigns in Byzantium five hundred years later were just preperation for the Twilight.

[maximus decimus meridius]

Thanks for your appreciation! Sorry but i haven't a list with the stats done with a spreadsheet o word.
but you can see the unit stats in the Crusader_unit_prod.txt file .....


~:)

bye

max

[axel]

hi i really want to have this expancion pack where may i download this ? and is this a self distrackt or do you have to put all the files all over your medieval files becose i am not really a computer expert ~;) :duel: :help:

[Belisarivs]

Hi. I found some mistakes in mod. It's in names of provinces. This picture describes more: http://www.initaly.com/pix/itmap1.jpg

[Lief]

Where can I download this mod? It sounds awesome.

[maximus decimus meridius]

Belisarius.

the map is a map of modern provinces of italy...... :)

Lief.

here is the direct link:

download Fall of Rome 3.0 (http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWupload/Fall_Of_Rome_maximus_decimus_meridius.zip)



bye

max

~:)

[JR-]

hey Maximus, any eta on the patch?

regards

PeegeeTips

[Belisarivs]

Belisarius.

the map is a map of modern provinces of italy...... :)



I know. But Campania should be renamed to Latium (Campania is around Naples), Liguria to Lombardia, Liguria is in coast (I don't know name of this province in your mod but originally it is probably Genoa).

Have a look at that link to picture in my previous post.

[maximus decimus meridius]

Sorry , I think within 15 days cause i'm involved in Middle Earth total War Mod.

anyway the patch will have the Aurelian campaign (270ad), a revisited 306ad campaign with a new roman faction and a 610ad campaign named "Heraclius the first Crusader".

bye

max