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[Martimus]

..and Demon buildings. Again a compromise but i think it works ok.
http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/dembuild.jpg

I like the colour. If I could make a suggestion.. perhaps you could add skulls and bones into the wall texture so it looks like the walls were made out of human bones and rocks.

And maybe the walls and buildings for the demons could be maybe less geometrically perfect ? hehe.. I know it's much easier to model a nice wall like that, and it does look nice.. but it doesn't sound like even you yourself is completely happy with it.. it would add more if it looked like it was thrown together, and not built so perfectly.

I don't know how large the wall textures are, so I don't know if it'll be possible to make it look like scattered bones built into the wall, but if you do this and make it look allright, I think it'd be quality. :D

All right, one more thing, you might have already thought of this, but will the demon units cause fear ? like elephants do ? I propose that the demons have weak attack and defense, but cause a lot of fear, reducing morale for the opposing army.

:bow:

[Vincenzo Morello]

Maybe if you place the largest templeof baal in the midle and have it really dark it would look really evil as it is a fairly large building

[Mackaaan]

:eeeek: You make modders like me go run in search of a place whee to hide in shame .... :bow:
You can say that again... And again. ~:eek:

[Captain-Tiguris]

Coolio!

[hoggy]

here are thechinese interior buildings. They still have the barbarian layout so they look a bit sparse at the moment.
http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/chinbuildshot.jpg

[Crusader4thepeople]

Omfg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop:
:jawdrop::jawdrop:

[menander]

Wow. Awesome looking. Quick Question: Are you going to have different trees, though? Like cherry blossoms, bonsai etc?

[Radier]

Awesome! ~:cheers:

[GiantMonkeyMan]

holy s*** those look so cool! and they also suite the walls as well this mod is gonna be great!

[hoggy]

here are the Ronin mercenaries for hire:
http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/mercronin.jpg

[Radier]

You are both fast and good! ~:cheers:

Btw what does Ronin mean? Is it a region?

[Revolting Friendship]

lol. Awesome Hoggy, those strawhats is such an awesome touch, and I just can't stop smiling at those rokurokubi, man I'm gonna love playing this mod. ~D

Yeah the buildings are magnificent too, to bad siege warfare in R:TW is just a nuisance anyway.

[Captain-Tiguris]

Once again they are REAL cool

[blindfaithnogod]

Btw what does Ronin mean? Is it a region?
a ronin is a samurai with no master, as i understand it.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

in shogun total war instead of 'Rebels' there were 'Rebels and Ronin'.... so that is probably right

anyway... great mercs hoggy! and yes the straw hats do add a great touch... does this mean the buildings are finished?

[Moros]

hoggy...?
would you marry me!? ~;)

[Jebus]

This just keeps on getting better and better...

[Gubook Janggoon]

:]

Brilliant as usual.

[IPoseTheQuestionYouReturnTheAnswer]

Wow. Excellent. Amazing. Is it just me, or do I spy 2 demon units in that ronin screenshot that haven't been seen before - those wraiths and the long necked goths?

The Chinese buildings are incredible. I love the towers. Great tough they are - it'll look much cooler to siege chinese cities now, looking at those massive walls with the high towers standing behind them.

[shifty157]

Wow. Excellent. Amazing. Is it just me, or do I spy 2 demon units in that ronin screenshot that haven't been seen before - those wraiths and the long necked goths?


They arent new. Quite the contrary they are very old units. There used to be screenshots but then hoggy changed hosts and never reposted the shots. Many of the units are in this predicament.

[Reverend Joe]

Hoggy... haven't been here in a while...

You are the lord god of modification.

I wish I knew the correct writing for this- it's a Hebrew prayer...

Blessed are you, the lord our Hoggy, king of the universe.

(Fellow Jews... a little help...?)

Anyway, I have high hopes for this mod. :bow:

[Tricon]

Here is a link to an interesting idea (jeromes posts 16 & 18 about "flying" units)
:https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=53763

[LeftEyeNine]

Btw what does Ronin mean? Is it a region?

"Daimyo"s - the regional Japanese lords - have bodyguards called Hanamoto (SP ? Kagemusha knows a lot about them). If a Hanamoto quits the job and wanders freely - living in a legal or illegal manner - they are "Ronin"s then.

Well, RTW is -as one friend has a signature written - a do-it-yourself project. Very mod-friendly. But creativity is what makes your work stand out among others. Filling Asian culture with fantastic elements was something several CRPG games tried to do before, but I think it will be a RTS managing it perfectly.

Blue Lotus team - excellent work. Shall your imagination and inspiration never wane. :bow:

[[GG]vonDöbeln]

Should be "Hatamoto" I think. ~;)

[GG]LvD

[LeftEyeNine]

Yes, that's it.. Thanks..

[jurchen fury]

Man, hoggy those walls are truly epic! I'm eagerly awaiting this mod to be released. You're such a talented skinner that I think it's somewhat of a pity your mod had to be fantasy rather than historical. Not that your mod isn't good, it's great, but IMO it'd be so much better if it was historically accurate. When you're done with this mod, do you think you'll join another mod?

[jurchen fury]

BTW those Chinese buildings look like Song/Yuan/Ming era buildings. Will the Chinese units be based off that era or something?

[Parokkikala]

BTW those Chinese buildings look like Song/Yuan/Ming era buildings. Will the Chinese units be based off that era or something?


I believe hoggy's stated that he just uses what he thinks looks cool. ~:)

[Ypoknons]

Given the excellence of documentation of the Song-Qing era, it might be a conincidence that hoggy would end up using more of that. And so far he hasn't used anything with Manchu influence, which is great.

[Sun Tzui]

Simply astonhishing!!!

When is this MOD coming out?

When can we play it?

WOW...WOW...WOW...

All mods will fade out after this one!

~:cheers:

[jurchen fury]

I believe hoggy's stated that he just uses what he thinks looks cool. ~:)

Yes, I realize this is a fantasy mod, not a historical accuracy mod.

[jurchen fury]

And so far he hasn't used anything with Manchu influence, which is great.

Why? What's wrong with using stuff with Manchu Qing influence? IMO, the Qing Dynasty was far less corrupt and had far more able emperors than any the Song and Ming dynasties had.

[Ypoknons]

Why? What's wrong with using stuff with Manchu Qing influence? IMO, the Qing Dynasty was far less corrupt and had far more able emperors than any the Song and Ming dynasties had.
Perhaps. But Manchurians didn't consider themselves Chinese... Until they were assimilated in the 20th century, of course.

[Reverend Joe]

All mods will fade out after this one! ~:cheers:
I think that the EB team will be willing to give you a run for their money. After all, they started out before RTW even was released. (But Hoggy's mod is amazing, especially considering it's one crazy guy doing all the work.)

[Alexanderofmacedon]

I think it's more than Hoggy. I could be wrong... :dizzy2:

[GiantMonkeyMan]

there's about three people on the team (i think) but at the mo hoggy is doin all the work cos the other team members have finished their bit....
it will be great to see this mod in action!

[jurchen fury]

Perhaps. But Manchurians didn't consider themselves Chinese... Until they were assimilated in the 20th century, of course.

No, the Manchus didn't consider themselves Han, but during most of the existence of the Qing dynasty, nationalism in the modern sense wasn't known or was rarely practiced and the sense of being "Chinese" didn't exist at the time, so Han at the time doesn't necessarily mean Chinese as it is only a modern term. But the Qing Dynasty was certainly a dynasty of China, and when the West encroached on the territories of the Qing, the Qing rulers did regard themselves as representatives of China. Little wonder that Han people like Lin Zexu, Zuo Zongtang, Zeng Guofang, Liang Qichao, Kang Youwei, etc. were loyal to the Qing regime even at the most desperate times.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

it will be great to see this mod in action!

Indeed...

[Ferocious_Imbecile]

I like the colour. If I could make a suggestion.. perhaps you could add skulls and bones into the wall texture so it looks like the walls were made out of human bones and rocks.

And maybe the walls and buildings for the demons could be maybe less geometrically perfect ? hehe.. I know it's much easier to model a nice wall like that, and it does look nice.. but it doesn't sound like even you yourself is completely happy with it.. it would add more if it looked like it was thrown together, and not built so perfectly.

I don't know how large the wall textures are, so I don't know if it'll be possible to make it look like scattered bones built into the wall, but if you do this and make it look allright, I think it'd be quality. :D

All right, one more thing, you might have already thought of this, but will the demon units cause fear ? like elephants do ? I propose that the demons have weak attack and defense, but cause a lot of fear, reducing morale for the opposing army.

:bow:


One suggestion, Hoggy; whenever you're fighting in the Daemon Kingdom it should always be a dark night with maximum fog. It'll be more spooky that way..

[Shahed]

there Are Absolutely No Words Which Could Possibly Describe How Truly Ingenius This Work Is.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

I'll Boldly Second That.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Me Three

[Ab Urbe Condita]

There Are Absolutely No Words Which Could Possibly Describe How Much I Want New Screenshots.

Hear Hear!

[Vincenzo Morello]

One suggestion, Hoggy; whenever you're fighting in the Daemon Kingdom it should always be a dark night with maximum fog. It'll be more spooky that way..

I agree do that and have say the sun so its a blood red colour or have the skys so they are a blackish/redish type of colour and make the lands very evil looking.

[Ypoknons]

No, the Manchus didn't consider themselves Han, but during most of the existence of the Qing dynasty, nationalism in the modern sense wasn't known or was rarely practiced and the sense of being "Chinese" didn't exist at the time, so Han at the time doesn't necessarily mean Chinese as it is only a modern term. But the Qing Dynasty was certainly a dynasty of China, and when the West encroached on the territories of the Qing, the Qing rulers did regard themselves as representatives of China. Little wonder that Han people like Lin Zexu, Zuo Zongtang, Zeng Guofang, Liang Qichao, Kang Youwei, etc. were loyal to the Qing regime even at the most desperate times.
I've thought about the arguement for a few days, and I've come to the conclusion that the Chinese shouldn't be purged of Manchurian influences. However I come to this conclusion differently - definately towards the end of the regime there was Chinese nationalism, and Qing rulers often shared common interest with the Han. Certainly Manchurians have had great influence on Chinese society. However, I will not go as far to say that China as a whole stopped loathing the Manchu regime, for both political and racist reasons, and that the alliance of certain influential members of Chinese society was not a marriage of convience.

[hoggy]

The chinese army list is pretty much sorted now but it's not intentionally missing out any period of chinese history/mythology.

here are the mercenary Red Hair samurai:
http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/mercred.jpg

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Two words...

Very...Pretty...


Keep up the good work 'oh holy one' :bow:

[GiantMonkeyMan]

excellent! the mercs will add some depth to the game
are they in a phalanx type mode?

[Stormy]

It looks amazing!
I like the pink faced ape like unit too! :yes:

[shifty157]

excellent! the mercs will add some depth to the game
are they in a phalanx type mode?

No they arent.


Looking good hoggy.

[Captain-Tiguris]

Cool!

I still waiting for the Giant Turtles though

[Moros]

[cheerleader style=on]
Hoggy he's the man,
if he can't
no one can!
[/cheerleader style]

[hoggy]

just when you thought it was safe to go onto the battlefield...... ~;)
http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/merckojin.jpg

[GiantMonkeyMan]

woah! holy s**t those look just like the concepts.... exellent! this is gonna be soo class!

[Moros]

that's like totally wicked, dude!~;)
~:eek:

[Revolting Friendship]

Woah! Is it just me, or do they actually open their mouths when they attack? Awesome work as usual.

[shifty157]

Those look amazing.

Did you weight the lower jaw to the torso bone and the rest of the head to the headbone? Thats the only way i can think of to pull that off.

Awesome work.

[DragoonXXIV]

Wow, amazing as always hoggy.

[Stormy]

Extremely excellent once again.

[Captain-Tiguris]

Aaah Street Sharks on RTW.

Good job hoggster

[Radier]

Wow! All I can say is ~:cheers:

[randomhero210]

Wow, simply amazing and one of my favorite units yet. Do they really open their mouths like that when they attack?

Great work of course Hoggy, but it would be nice to really gather it all in on an official Blue Lotus site. I really wish you would get one made up.

[Zastrow]

Splendid looking modification, I eagerly anticipate its completion. ~:cheers:

[beauchamp]

Wow, amazing! its like in valkyrie profile were the yamato peoples fight the mermaid peoples in this huge war, but they never really show that in the game...

[menander]

WOW! They are too awesome! I agree about the need for a website, but if it slows down the work on the mod itself...

I want more screenshots [pouts]

[manu7777]

Hello hoggy,

First, I would like to tell you my congratulations for your excellent work. I am French and I'm a specialist in RTW modding, so I give to the French community some informations about future mods which are in manufacture at this time. I would like to know two things: if you want to send me an article about your mod, it could be for me a real pleasure to translate it into French. The second thing is that I want to know if you will release your mod in the original RTW or with RTW Barbarian invasion ?
Could you give us an exclusive news about your mod's release date?

Sincerely.

manu7777

[shifty157]

Well guys. I contacted hoggy about creating a website for the mod several months back because i have some basic html skills. I managed to put in quite a few hours on the site but then my free time dropped off sharply. So heres a link to what i have. If anyone wants to pick up where i left off then ill gladly send them everything that i have.

screens site (http://www.angelfire.com/alt2/tomsjournal/BL/screens.html)

[PROMETHEUS]

Not to be criticous , the site is nice and is a nice idea tought why there are so many pop ups that I can't see much of it .....

[monkian]

Cos Angelfire sux0rz !1!!1!!1

[Alexanderofmacedon]

OMG can't wait!!!

[randomhero210]

Not to be criticous , the site is nice and is a nice idea tought why there are so many pop ups that I can't see much of it .....

yeah really. not to be down on you, good effort. There is really only so much you can do with angel fire. Bluelotustotalwar.com is open, so i really hope Hoggy could get a nice and proper site up. if he doesn't want to pay, he could EASILY be hosted. But don't worry about it cutting into Hoggy's time, someone else could easily do it.

[menander]

Yeah, easily :p

Looks good, btw.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Site link? I must not have been keeping up with the thread...

[Captain-Tiguris]

I am willing to help create a decent BL site, so if anyone wants to help (ahem shifty ;) ) then pm me.

It would feature: The Factions
Faction Units (so far)
Campaign Map (so far)
And basically any other info not catorgarized in the above.

If anyone is interested in my offer then pm me

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Nevermind

[randomhero210]

Your title is kind of creepy. LOL, maybe it should say "Blue Lotus's biggest fan"

I don't know, maybe America and it's crap we call a president have made me think funny...

ummm.... what? take your "politics" some place else.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

i didn't understand a word of what Alexanderofmacedon said....
but i really would like someone to make a website of blue lotus so i could get a glimps of the demon faction since their pics have 'vanished'

[Alexanderofmacedon]

ummm.... what? take your "politics" some place else.

I thought it would be hard to understand...

For the best I'm sure...

[randomhero210]

i didn't understand a word of what Alexanderofmacedon said....
but i really would like someone to make a website of blue lotus so i could get a glimps of the demon faction since their pics have 'vanished'

Yeah too bad. Those are really nice, you'll have to take my word for it.

[hoggy]

Shifty is currently making a website but I saw it more as a guide for units etc. Unfortunately I don't have the spare time to help out with it at all. This site is as good as any for info and discussion though. Just got my copy of BI and looking at it and whether it's worth converting BL to it. In the meantime here are the mercenary vanara. They are sort of a cross between Vanara and the monkey king:

http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/mercmonkey.jpg

[The wise Penguin]

Wonderful, absolutely awesome unit! What are they throwing though? Just pink balls or are they some type of explosives or something?

[PROMETHEUS]

Shifty is currently making a website but I saw it more as a guide for units etc. Unfortunately I don't have the spare time to help out with it at all. This site is as good as any for info and discussion though. Just got my copy of BI and looking at it and whether it's worth converting BL to it. In the meantime here are the mercenary vanara. They are sort of a cross between Vanara and the monkey king:

http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/mercmonkey.jpg

LOL those are fun and Cool ^^ .... what are they throwing tought sort of gameball?

[randomhero210]

LOL those are fun and Cool ^^ .... what are they throwing tought sort of gameball?


It looks like fruit to me, cool stuff

[hoggy]

peaches of immortality like the one the monkey king stole. ~:)

[PROMETHEUS]

and They throw them away?~:eek:

[Stormy]

Wow Hoggy! I like them alot. ~:eek:

[blindfaithnogod]

oh thats great.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Nice. I wonder what it would feel like to get hit by one of those suckers...

Ouch~;)

[Captain-Tiguris]

Brilliant, a horde of Monkey Men to command!

[GiantMonkeyMan]

it will be so cool to lead a army of samurai backed up by some peach throwing monkeys... i can't wait ~D

[Ferocious_Imbecile]

Peaches of Immortality!

[Geoffrey S]

Teaches of Peaches?
This mod is still looking ace, by the way.

[LeftEyeNine]

hoggy and other developers of this mod,

You are truly genius. When it is out, expect your fame spreading instantly and being offered jobs from professional game studios. That's not fortune telling, that's commenting on reality..

[Myrddraal]

Hate to break it to you LeftEyeNine, but Hoggy already is a professional modeller :smile:


But I'm sure he might expect a promotion :wink:

[Martimus]

The first thing I thought to myself when looking at that last screenshot was "Are those monkeys ? Shooting water balloons?" lol

[hoggy]

here are the mercenary fishmen (with swim ability ~:) ):
http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/mercfishmen.jpg

[The wise Penguin]

Whahaha! So cool! Brilliant :D

[GiantMonkeyMan]

:jawdrop: genious... pure genious

[Geoffrey S]

here are the mercenary fishmen (with swim ability ~:) )

Still keeping that fantastically unique style. Is BL already running under BI then, or is the swim ability simply planned? Will only the fishmen get a swim ability? Any other features you're planning to use from BI? And why's all the rum gone?

[Moros]

Still keeping that fantastically unique style. Is BL already running under BI then, or is the swim ability simply planned? Will only the fishmen get a swim ability? Any other features you're planning to use from BI? And why's all the rum gone?
if it has swim ability it must be BI, ~:(.

after all that waiting :bigcry:

Ooh atleast I still can drool up on your beautifull moddels hoggy!~:)

:bow:

[The wise Penguin]

Why don't you just buy BI? If you care enough about RTW to have almost 1000 posts about in in a forum, I think you could shell out the 30$ for the expansion.

[Moros]

first off all I've posted 933 times, It isn't even released here (it think), I don't have 30$ on the moment and I love your nickname.

[randomhero210]

first off all I've posted 933 times, It isn't even released here (it think), I don't have 30$ on the moment and I love your nickname.

it's released.

Anyways, amazing work yet again hoggy.

[Moros]

it's released.

Anyways, amazing work yet again hoggy.
it is released where YOU live. I'm not sure if it is released where I live, I haven't seen it in a store yet.

[al'Callaendor]

Great job!~:)

[Alexanderofmacedon]

It looks very cool. It adds some humor to it (no offence).:bow:

[Sextus Caecillius]

Nice cant wait till it is done

[Captain-Tiguris]

Brilliant!!!!!

[Geoffrey S]

it is released where YOU live. I'm not sure if it is released where I live, I haven't seen it in a store yet.
It's out in the Netherlands, I saw it in a Free Record Shop the other day. I'd have thought it'd be out in Belgium too.

[Moros]

It's out in the Netherlands, I saw it in a Free Record Shop the other day. I'd have thought it'd be out in Belgium too.
Why do have to say that? now I have a reason less ~;)

Bwa haven't seen it yet but if I will I'll have a look at it and if it ain't to expensive I might buy because of you hoggy~:) .

btw: G.S. how much €'s was it?

[Stormy]

The mercenary fishmen look beautiful. :balloon2:

[PersienShah]

VEry Nice Fischs :D:D:D

[Jebus]

it is released where YOU live. I'm not sure if it is released where I live, I haven't seen it in a store yet.

Where do you think we are, on the edge of the world? I bought it the same day it was released world-wide. Logically.

[Geoffrey S]

btw: G.S. how much €'s was it?
Not sure; looked to be somewhere between 30 and 40 euros. I know I decided it was too expensive and bought Morrowind with its two expansion packs for 7 euros.

[beauchamp]

Man, hoggy, you could work for Creative Assembly and make some mondo cash....

[Moros]

Not sure; looked to be somewhere between 30 and 40 euros. I know I decided it was too expensive and bought Morrowind with its two expansion packs for 7 euros.
30-40 €'s? hmmm...if I see it somewhere and it's more to 30 than to the 40 I might if I'm in a good mood and if I have a lot of money I might perhaps buy it than. But ofcourse it all depens if BL is going to be for BI or not adn the weather ofcourse...:tomato:

[hoggy]

Not sure; looked to be somewhere between 30 and 40 euros. I know I decided it was too expensive and bought Morrowind with its two expansion packs for 7 euros.

Maybe wait til after Christmas and see if it comes down in price. I don't think we'll be releasing this till around January.

[Captain-Tiguris]

What unit you doing now hoggy?

[Alexanderofmacedon]

It's 30 euros? It's $30 here in the U.S.

[HunkinElvis]

here are the finished Goguryo cavalry and the choson scout cavalry (essentially hwrang on horseback):
http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/koreacav.jpg
Wowowow!!! :jawdrop:

The armour of the horse covered the front too. Anyway, awesome work! This makes me want to buy RTW.

By the way, I'm surprised at how you know the hwarang and the Koguryo cavalry.

[Moros]

It's 30 euros? It's $30 here in the U.S.
than it should be less €'s unless it might be the transport etc... what makes it more expensive.

[Samurai Fanatic]

Its about £15 here in britain on amazon.co.uk.
:bow: :bow: :bow: :duel: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :balloon2:

[al'Callaendor]

the goguryo cavary is very magnificient!

[Gubook Janggoon]

Wowowow!!! :jawdrop:

The armour of the horse covered the front too. Anyway, awesome work! This makes me want to buy RTW.

By the way, I'm surprised at how you know the hwarang and the Koguryo cavalry.


Haha, if things go well we may even start seeing other members of the Goguryeoan army and Gayan heavy infantry.


I've been brainstorming and if Hoggy decides to expand the mod...

Muhahaha

[mike007]

Hi im new here

i just read through all 30 pages & im amazed that i have never heard of this mod before! Im not normaly a fan of the asian mods, but this has totaly changed my mind! Already this is my favorite mod & its not even released yet!.

Hoggy, your head must be fulled to the brim with compliments, but let me add one more. Your moddels are the best ive ever seen!
nuff said.
cant wait for the mod to be released, keep up the great work

Mike

[shifty157]

Hi im new here

i just read through all 30 pages & im amazed that i have never heard of this mod before! Im not normaly a fan of the asian mods, but this has totaly changed my mind! Already this is my favorite mod & its not even released yet!.

Hoggy, your head must be fulled to the brim with compliments, but let me add one more. Your moddels are the best ive ever seen!
nuff said.
cant wait for the mod to be released, keep up the great work

Mike


Heh. And just think mike. You havent even seen the half of it. At least the good first half of hoggy's units dont have screens up.

Blows your mind doesnt it?

[Captain-Tiguris]

At least the good first half of hoggy's units dont have screens up.

Shame that.. :(

[hoggy]

I'd hold on buying a copy if you are just getting it for this mod (the conceit! ~:) ) We've not decided yet. I'm currently a bit stuck due to BI's fewer culture specific ITEMs. It is a lot less flexible than RTW in this respect and could be a 'deal breaker'. The 1.3 patch for Rome is looking like a contender. I'll keep you posted.

[Moros]

Its about £15 here in britain on amazon.co.uk.
:bow: :bow: :bow: :duel: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :balloon2:
1 pound is about 1.2 €'s right? or 1.3€'s...I can't remeber.

Well I'm not buying BI yet I might be first I'm going to see if there are a few good mods who certainly go for BI and perhaps the prices drop after a while.

But anyway thx for keeping us informed and thx for the mod!:bow:

[mike007]

I'd hold on buying a copy if you are just getting it for this mod (the conceit! ~:) ) We've not decided yet. I'm currently a bit stuck due to BI's fewer culture specific ITEMs. It is a lot less flexible than RTW in this respect and could be a 'deal breaker'. The 1.3 patch for Rome is looking like a contender. I'll keep you posted.

yeah if BI is being a little bitch, just forget it & focus on 1.3. I doubte anyone will mind of its not BI compatible.

Also Hoggy, if posibile im sure alot of people (including myself) would love to see those 'infamous' screens shots that have been taken down. Any chance of a repost?

[randomhero210]

I'd hold on buying a copy if you are just getting it for this mod (the conceit! ~:) ) We've not decided yet. I'm currently a bit stuck due to BI's fewer culture specific ITEMs. It is a lot less flexible than RTW in this respect and could be a 'deal breaker'. The 1.3 patch for Rome is looking like a contender. I'll keep you posted.

I really like 1.3 and It has the AI additions, and I think that's what really counts. Anything else is really just fluff to this mod.

[hoggy]

I'm going to hold off on the old screenshots for now. It'll give you something to look forward to on release. Here are the mercenary ghosts (with skull throwing ability) This will be the last screenshot for a while as we'll be converting BL into whichever format it ends up in in the meantime..
http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/mercghost.jpg

[PROMETHEUS]

AWESOME ! :bow:

[Geoffrey S]

Stunning. If half the commercial games were as imaginative as this I'd be a happy person. It really makes a case for more use of Asian influences in games outside of the usual stereotypes.

[Captain-Tiguris]

Great timing, its Halloween soon as well!

[randomhero210]

wow.... that last screen.. Is it just me or is that one absolutely beautiful? It gave me chills

Incredible, I can't wait for the mod. After so long of just drooling over pictures, it's hard to belive I could one day I will be playing Blue Lotus on my computer.... mindblowing.

[Samurai Fanatic]

I am adoring this mod, but i would hate to find out if the japanese were slotted into the roman faction, because the eastern and somehow greek nomad factions sound more japanese more than American romans.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

i'm lovin it! as per usual

:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: <-- Hoggy's adoring masses

:furious3: <-- crazy weirdo who doesn't know a good mod when he sees one

[Burns]

Whoa, how did you do the ghosts?

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Those ghosts are looking pretty kick!~D

[al'Callaendor]

very good ghosts!!!

[edyzmedieval]

OMFG Hoggy....

No wonder blindfaith is so good, he's got an awesome "parent". ~:cheers:
He also told me that you applied to CA.

Why haven't they accepted you?!(sorry if it's too personal)

[richwkc]

Went through all the screenshots.

Just register to say "WOW"

Can't wait to play this mod! really looking forward to it

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Welcome rickwkc!

Yes, Hoggy is a wonderful modder. I hope you stick around for other reasons though!~D ~;)

[hoggy]

OMFG Hoggy....

No wonder blindfaith is so good, he's got an awesome "parent". ~:cheers:
He also told me that you applied to CA.

Why haven't they accepted you?!(sorry if it's too personal)

Blindfaith is good full stop. I had no hand in his excellent models and modding skills. Top all round talented bloke!
I sent my CV to CA while I was unemployed for a month last year along with a few other places but never heard anything back from CA so I can't say why.

[edyzmedieval]

:embarassed: :dizzy2: ~:eek:

No words to describe. You're doing so well. ~:cheers:
Why not start your own gaming company?! ~:cheers: ~:cool:

[Sheep]

Good. Freakin. God.

[Crusader4thepeople]

OMFG Hoggy those ghosts are brilliant, it doesnt get much better then this.

And BTW gertgregoor &#163;1 is about 1.5-1.6 euros ( im half german so i spend a lot of time converting cash)

[Moros]

OMFG Hoggy those ghosts are brilliant, it doesnt get much better then this.

And BTW gertgregoor £1 is about 1.5-1.6 euros ( im half german so i spend a lot of time converting cash)
lol, thx.~D

[Samurai Fanatic]

ive looked around the unit pics again and have noticed that u think guan yu was a cavalry unit, it wasnt, Guan yu was a hero around 200ad and was not a cavalry unit he was a warrior.

[randomhero210]

ive looked around the unit pics again and have noticed that u think guan yu was a cavalry unit, it wasnt, Guan yu was a hero around 200ad and was not a cavalry unit he was a warrior.

alright, first off this is widely known and not something we would overlook

second, if you read the posts around those pictures, you would see that was not actually the desired results, but hoggy was unable to get just that character in (ie he couldn't get individual hero units)

third, its a fantasy mod

[mike007]

Great ghosts Hoggy, you da man!
Will they be a missle based unit? They remind me of the head throwers the British have.
nice work brudda! ~:)

[Ferocious_Imbecile]

OMG! Those ghosts are the best yet! What have you done? The textures of each individual ghost are so refined! Just when I thought you'd peaked out and the work couldn't get any better you've suddenly transcended everything else that's gone before!

AMAZING HOGGY. You're a bloody genius.

[Captain-Tiguris]

Great ghosts Hoggy, you da man!
Will they be a missle based unit? They remind me of the head throwers the British have.
nice work brudda! ~:)


They are missile throwers I do believe

[Lonely Soldier]

This is art.

[randomhero210]

This is art.

I totally agree. I'm excited for mods like Chivalry, EB, and Shogun, but Blue Lotus is truely something extra ordinary. Hoggy is very talented and it shows throughout all his work.

[Lord Adherbal]

IMO Hoggy is the best modeler in the RTW scene. Atleast for the fantasy style he uses. Each of those units and buildings are just perfect.

@Hoggy, did you have any experience with modelling & skinning before you started this mod ? Please say yes or I'm gonna be really jealous :)

[Big_John]

Adherbal']IMO Hoggy is the best modeler in the RTW scene. Atleast for the fantasy style he uses. Each of those units and buildings are just perfect.

@Hoggy, did you have any experience with modelling & skinning before you started this mod ? Please say yes or I'm gonna be really jealous :)quoting hoggy from earlier in this thread:


yep I'm a professional modeler. I started modding in my spare time as the game I was working on was football management and it required very little in the way of creativity. Modding your own game also avoids all the restrictions that normally come from the zombie marketing dept ~:) (in fact i may do a unit of them...). Got made redundant last December (british games industry imploding in the north) and sent my cv to CA but not a peep from them. I now commute 3 hours a day to work which limits my time for unit building but taking on blindfaithnogod and Sykotik Rampage to Blue Lotus has more than made up for the time loss. They've been doing an amazing amount of work, a lot of which is less screenshottable than mine but I wouldn't have been able to continue the mod without their help. :bow: Sorry, started rambling.

[randomhero210]

Adherbal']
@Hoggy, did you have any experience with modelling & skinning before you started this mod ? Please say yes or I'm gonna be really jealous :)

well, I think you can be really jealous anyways ~:cheers:

[SomeNick]

Hi Hoggy and team :)

Just visiting after a little while to check out how the mod is going and it looks awesome as usual lol!

I'd also like to add that those banners in the latest screen shots are really well done. That will add variety to battles for sure considering the rather boring ones of RTW.

Keep up the excellent work guys ~:cheers:

[sera]

Impressive. Most impressive. The graphics are better by far than any others I've seen. Must admit I look forward to this mod being released more than any other. :bow:

[Alexanderofmacedon]

I look forward to this mod being released more than any other

Uhh...I don't know about that one...~D

[cunobelinus]

Nice !!

[edyzmedieval]

Hoggy is by far the best modeller/skinner. ~:cheers:
If you have Hoggy as modeller/skinner, then you could finish the mod only with him. ~:cheers:

Too bad CA didn't accept him.... I can't believe this!!!!

[Balian of ivelin]

Hi Hoggy!!
Im new im the forum but ive been following the mod and its the...
NUMBER ONE!!!!!!
Hoggy and the team youre the best!

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"How much Jerusalem worth?"

- Balian of Ivelin

[El-Wrongo]

After reading trough the entire thread i have found that the only thing i dislike is the demon characters and buildings (they remind me to much of buffy and heros). Personally i would like to see some buildings looking more like twisted chinese and japanese buildings and shrines than the ones i see now.

Now i don't know if you have other buildings that look more like the ones i would like (above) but from what i have seen i think you could draw some inspiration from the kamigawa edition magic cards (nice buildings) (look at the land cards and legendary land cards) (www.magicthegathering.com).

Now i guess this is a little late to change things but anyhow i am just telling.

BTW: Great work on the mod all three of you, you guys are my heros (almost).

[mike007]

After reading trough the entire thread i have found that the only thing i dislike is the demon characters and buildings (they remind me to much of buffy and heros). Personally i would like to see some buildings looking more like twisted chinese and japanese buildings and shrines than the ones i see now.

Now i don't know if you have other buildings that look more like the ones i would like (above) but from what i have seen i think you could draw some inspiration from the kamigawa edition magic cards (nice buildings) (look at the land cards and legendary land cards) (www.magicthegathering.com).

Now i guess this is a little late to change things but anyhow i am just telling.

BTW: Great work on the mod all three of you, you guys are my heros (almost).

i disgree. The building look great! unless you want this mod to come out in 2 years from now, i wouldnt be complaining about the looks of buldings.

Unless of course you can mod & want to help them out!?

and just because the deamon reminds you of buffy , does that necesraily mean its a bad thing? come on, they are 10 ft red bad ass looking mothers! how could u dislike them!? they fucking rock!

anyways good to see someone new on the site ;)

[Sykotyk Rampage]

Hi El-Wrongo,

What you see for examples are just a small sampling of the characters and buildings for the demons. There are many Asian themes throughout their ancillaries, characters and buildings...very twisted and morphed. The images -style and look- are purposely very separated out from the art style of the worldly counter parts. Remember there are 100's of building, character, ancillary, and event pictures just for the demons alone. Plus if we posted all of them the in game wonderment would be gone. LOL

Welcome to the thread ...great place for your first post!!!
Skr

[HelloKittyMan]

I have been following your mod...and being of Korean decent, would love to play as my fantasy counterpart in your mod...:bow:

Now, I know its hard to find images of korean weapons, korean armour, etc on the internet...but luckily, I live in Korea, and they just recently opened up the Korean National Museum near where I live. This means I can go there and take pictures of Traditonal Korean Weapons and Armour, etc.

If they become a minor faction, Its understandable, but if I can help in any way possible to turn them into a major faction, I will gladly help.


Now, I have alittle information in my head, with two prominent korean weapons being the composite bow, and a trident. The koreans also made use of much brigatine armour, one major noticeble difference is, the korean brigatine armour consisted of one piece. Chinese brigatine on the other hand was made up of multiple pieces tied together. Helmet styles were similar to chinese, but not always. I don't think I have ever seen a barbed spear that the koreans ever used, but it could be possible, though not in great numbers. THen again, it is fantasy, but I would like to see some more traditionally armed units as well...I will try and get pictures of korean arms, armour, and etc.

[HelloKittyMan]

Here is a link with a few pictures, and many swords...there is a big arguement between korean and japanese people on who exactly came up with the concept of the katana. Now we all know the japanese perfected the art of katana making. But it could possibly be a korean invention as well. Either way, Koreans made heavy use of japanese style swords, along with many chinese style straight blade swords as well.

http://www31.tok2.com/home2/jydjk/A-Japanese-sword-is-a-Korean-sword-01/A-Japanese-sword-is-a-Korean-sword-01_20030622105832_archives.html



http://www.willi-stengel.de/images/Kobukso.jpg
In this picture, it shows Admiral Yi Sun Shin, dressed up in the Korean Brigatine Armour. The men standing around him in the Grey Tunics was the basic military uniform of a korean soldier during the Choson Period.

http://contents.kbs.co.kr/special/special_view.php?id=18&code=2&board_name=collection&boardjob=VIEW&page=1&keyname=&keyword=&code=2
This shows a few actual suits of refurbished/replica armour the Korean Broadcasting Station was allowed to use on loan from the korean government to film an up and coming Drama.

http://www.corea.it/24_arti_marziali.htm
and here is a few pictures of korean men in traditional battle dress preforming various military drills

[Gubook Janggoon]

Great pics there.

The multi-barbed spears were actually used during the Joseon dynasty. You can check out a copy of on at the Korean Military Museum.

As for the pictures of guys in grey garb, the men standing next to Admiral Yi with the black hats are actually wearing standard military dress. The rest of the guys are in everyday peasant wear/ worker wear.

Tridents were an important part of the Joseon arsenal but were mainly ceremonial in Goguryeo. If they're used at all, I suggest giving them to elite troops or the general's body guard.

[IPoseTheQuestionYouReturnTheAnswer]

Well, the mod is fantasy, not historical. Hoggy's stated on more than one occasion that he just uses what looks cool rather than what's correct for each time period.

[moreb_benhk]

Those screenshots send tingles down my spine. I hope everything is coming along well. Methinks that going for 'what is cool' cannot go wrong. I mean in a fantasy mod would you like mass loads of variety, all looking very very cool, or would you prefer, say, 100 kinds of hoplites because 'that is the main type of infantry the countries actually used in real life at that time period'. Personally, I like variety.

[al'Callaendor]

there are not new screens...

[SJRlunchbox]

Well, the mod is fantasy, not historical. Hoggy's stated on more than one occasion that he just uses what looks cool rather than what's correct for each time period.

Which is probably one of the smartest ideas Hoggy had in the mod. R:TW really seems to have attracted the detail-nuts, the type who argue over the exact length in pixels of the gladius and the like, hence all the mods seem to be about "Making things more realistic/historically accurate". None seem willing to just say "Let's make something fun that looks good, and sod historical accuracy." Well done Hoggy.

[Moros]

Which is probably one of the smartest ideas Hoggy had in the mod. R:TW really seems to have attracted the detail-nuts, the type who argue over the exact length in pixels of the gladius and the like, hence all the mods seem to be about "Making things more realistic/historically accurate". None seem willing to just say "Let's make something fun that looks good, and sod historical accuracy." Well done Hoggy.
not an EB fan are you ~D ?

[SJRlunchbox]

Not really. Realism's all well and good, but we're talking about a game where the player re-writes history, so going for insane realism doesn't quite fit the bill for me. For example, in my Seleucid game the Marius reforms weren't an act to professionalise the Roman Legion, they were copying the Seleucidian Silver Shield legionaire.

Anyway, no offense to historical buffs, but as it is there are far too few simple fantasy style mods. Hell, I'd settle for a mod which replaced the British with a race of Orc Raiders.

But to keep on topic, keep up the good work, BL team.

[Moros]

Not really. Realism's all well and good, but we're talking about a game where the player re-writes history, so going for insane realism doesn't quite fit the bill for me. For example, in my Seleucid game the Marius reforms weren't an act to professionalise the Roman Legion, they were copying the Seleucidian Silver Shield legionaire.

Anyway, no offense to historical buffs, but as it is there are far too few simple fantasy style mods. Hell, I'd settle for a mod which replaced the British with a race of Orc Raiders.

But to keep on topic, keep up the good work, BL team.
Then you should give ME:TW, FATW, MEN, Wheel Of Time or RTR a try ~:joker:

[Lord Adherbal]

None seem willing to just say "Let's make something fun that looks good, and sod historical accuracy." Well done Hoggy.

Why would we ? The commercial gaming industry already takes that part.

[Ilsamir Lord]

Are the Koreans (or a Korean-like faction) still in this? I hope so, but apart from that everything else is astoundingly good!

This is one of the first major mods for R:TW isn't it? Glad to see its still coming along.

[hoggy]

Yes Koreans are still in as a 'mini' faction ie they have to share the chinese culture and have fewer units.

Been working on siege weapons recently but have only been able to mod the rams so far. I can't seem to mod culture specific onagers/siege towers etc. yet. (ignore rtw units in shot)

http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/rams.jpg

[Spendios]

These battering rams are awesome !

[GiantMonkeyMan]

bloody hell!!! those look amazing! you never cease to amaze hoggy!

[al'Callaendor]

Wow!~:)

[Moros]

sweet jesus! those are truely amasing battering rams!
If the rams are already so cool I wander what he'll do with the artillery!

[dark]

Yeah, can't wait to see the onagers!

[hoggy]

I'm bulking up the Korean unit list with some professional infantry, spears and firelancers:

http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/koreainf.jpg

[dark]

Oh, how much i wish Hoggy would join RTR. :deal2:

[GiantMonkeyMan]

those look great! will you also update the drawings? cos they also look class.. hoggy you are my favourite artist :bow:

[richwkc]

~:eek: ~:eek: ~:eek: :jawdrop:

[IPoseTheQuestionYouReturnTheAnswer]

This mod will make it worth my time to finally remove my RTW disks from their shelf-y tomb, wipe off the very thick layer of dust, cobwebs, and excrement that covers them, and insert the CDs into my drive for installation.

I thought it would never happen.

edit: will the Koreans ever become a regular, nonmini faction? is it a priority for some follow up patch?

[al'Callaendor]

very nic~:) e!

[Samurai Fanatic]

They look cool, but where have the banners gone for the armies, also where have the units gone?

[Samurai Fanatic]

ummm are there gonna be Teppo Ashigaru for japan?

[Morray]

I am particulary looking forward to the very original merc units! the guys with the fish heads look amazing! and the Yakuza!...classic! ~:cool:

[Gubook Janggoon]

At first I was a bit hesitant, but now I'm really digging the new Korean Goryeo style infantry. It looks like you took them straight out of those pictures that were provided earlier. You never cease to amaze me Hoggy. :]

[Geoffrey S]

This is definitely one of those mods that will get me to install RTW again.

[Morray]

Well you will need BI too but hey! it's all good!

[hoggy]

Blue Lotus is for RTW with the 1.3 patch. You don't need BI for it.

[Morray]

Well you will need BI too but hey! it's all good!

Bloody hell my bad! I swear I read somewhere that you needed BI...well I certainly didn't need to go out and buy that two weeks ago!

Then I have a question? will the fish men and the Kojin infantry be able to swim?...yep I have definitely read somewhere that someone can! and that would mean you need BI right? but you have made it so your right and im wrong...ill try and find the quote! ~:cheers:

sorry all :hide:

[Morray]

BI is looking the most probable.

...Posted by yourself there hoggy, but I must have read it worng as you do further explain that to make it for BI would take a long labarous conversion.

[hoggy]

Easy mistake Morray. We initially intended to make Blue Lotus for BI but the structure of the cultures in BI and a number of other factors meant we changed our mind and are doing it for 1.3. So early posts will still have references to modding for BI.

[Renly]

You can still install and play mods for RTW even if you have BI installed, right?

[Morray]

*Last of topic post*

You should just be able to create a copied folder of the original, then update the copied version to blue lotus and the other one to BI, this will of course mean you have to reinstall again BUT HEY! who the hell aint prepared to reinstall R:TW for this mod?

Well thats the way I did Fourth Age anyway!

*end of off topic*

[hoggy]

Here are the Choson Warriors, heavy infantry:

http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/koreaheavy.jpg

[Morray]

*Enter dart Vader voice* ... Most impressive...

Hey Hoggy can we see a sneak preview of working 'Wang Liangs'? and maybe the 'Shishi Riders' from the Deamon army? They both look very unique!

[GiantMonkeyMan]

man they look class!!!!! i am sure i have seen them (or something similar) from a movie which makes it even better..... the koreans are becoming an amazing faction!!! will you also expand upon the mongols?
and @Morray: hoggy has done the demon faction already and it was in the original blue lotus thread but unfortunately they were lost in hoggy upload limit...

[Moros]

great work hoggy!!!

Btw: is there any chance you'll also be bulking up the mongols? ~:)

[Morray]

hoggy has done the demon faction already and it was in the original blue lotus thread but unfortunately they were lost in hoggy upload limit...

Ah ok cool, I missed them no worries! just have to be patient and wait for the game release! MAN really cannot wait to play the deamons! yea baby...

Now Hoggy the curvature of the baldes of thoses Choson warriors is very interesting!......HAHA only kiding mate ~;)

[tutankamon]

Great gucamucca!! ~;)

[hoggy]

Ok, got the onagers working. was a silly mistake I'd made :san_rolleyes: . Here are the demon onagers (ignore egyptian crew):

http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/demon_onager.jpg

[Samurai Fanatic]

HOLY MARY MOTHER OF ALL CHRISTIANS AND CHEESE BREAD THEY ARE HUGE!!!!!!!!!:san_shocked: :san_shocked: :san_shocked:

[DragoonXXIV]

Nifty as usual. Just one question can you change the picture of the demon onager ammo to huge skulls or skeletons instead of boulders. I think the image of flaming skulls would suite the demons quite well.

[al'Callaendor]

wow!!!!:san_shocked:

[Renly]

you are pro. 'nuff said.

[Zastrow]

Truely Awesome. :san_grin:

[GiantMonkeyMan]

wow!!! thats great... :bow:

[Spendios]

This is simply awesome ! Congratulations !

[Hunter KIng George]

Very Very Nice all screenshots look terrific...million dollar question...when will mod be release? :san_grin:

[PROMETHEUS]

I :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: to Your Imagination and Talent...!

[Captain-Tiguris]

My god they are great!

[Burns]

Nice. How many polys do your infantry have on average?

[coltsrock]

looks cool

[Paul Peru]

:san_cool:
Sweet!!
Your screenies make me laugh, cry etc.:san_laugh: :san_cry:

[hoggy]

Burns - they average around the same as the RTW ones except for special units where i trade more polys for smaller unit size.

Hunter King George - see the Blue lotus: Current Status for regular updates.

Here are the Chinese canon. these will be used by japanese and chinese cultures instead of onagers:
http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/chinonager.jpg

[GiantMonkeyMan]

bloody hell!!!!! i wouldn't want one of them outside my city thats for sure! keep it up hoggy! :san_wink:

[Geoffrey S]

Wow. Once again confirming my nomination of you as most talented modder around here.

[hoggy]

... and here are the Indian canon. Using the chinese technology but redesigned by Krishnapur kings to suit their taste:

http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/indiaonager.jpg

[Radier]

Awesome as ususal. :san_grin:

[GiantMonkeyMan]

man you keep churning out genious! keep it up hoggy!

[Hunter KIng George]

Thx Hoggy! Truly awesome work! Will be waiting with much anticipation! :san_grin:

[Kinjiss]

freakin awsome hoggY! but just one gripe...the chinese cannon doesnt look like it would fit the japanese armies. i know its more work to make a new model, but maybe a reskin, like a sort of blackish, laquerish tone, with wood?

[Samurai Fanatic]

Hoggy you are the best of the best of the best of the best!!!!!

Have you got all the units converted over to 1.3?

[al'Callaendor]

very very nice!

[Morray]

Im interested what is the trajectery going to be like from the Cannons!? Will it bea more direct sort of shot or will it still follow the same path as onagers?



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Onager < -O-

[Morray]

...Ah (that didn't work out how I planned *dammit took me ages!*) :san_embarassed:

[Samurai Fanatic]

he he he

[Gubook Janggoon]

They look stunning.

Happy holidays hoggy! :san_grin:

[IPoseTheQuestionYouReturnTheAnswer]

Praise: Woww....just...wwwow......


Question: Do the cannons get pushed back in recoil when they fire? If they do then the crew must get flattened, heh.

[Moros]

Verry nice indeed!!
~:eek:

[Burns]

That first cannon looks spectacular.

[Captain-Tiguris]

briliant!

[Morray]

So in terms of siege equipment is there going to be anything else to look forward too ?

i.e. The Romans had a ' Scorpion ' and Ballistea etc...

[Spendios]

These cannons are fantastic !

[LeftEyeNine]

hoggy, I feel as if I'm spamming the forum when I try to react what you do with Blue Lotus. I'm bored of writing "this is awesome" posts but you just don't stop doing your best. :bow:

[Ilsamir Lord]

Crikey! Awesome stuff! Siege weapons are another aspect of the game that is rarely modded, so I'm very excited to see such great stuff here! It really inspires me for my own project!

[The_678]

WOW! I haven't been to these boards in months and the last time I was here this screenshot topic was at page 11 or 12. After looking at these new pics and seeing you mention somewhere something about a Janurary release I am going to phone the cable company first thing after the holidays to hook up the internet to get this. This is probably sounding old but I have to say again amazing work.:thrasher: (heh I just had to use this new smily)

[Sun Tzui]

I'm speechless!!!

Great job!

[Alexanderofmacedon]

hoggy, I feel as if I'm spamming the forum when I try to react what you do with Blue Lotus. I'm bored of writing "this is awesome" posts but you just don't stop doing your best. :bow:

Yeah, I quit trying to keep up long ago!:laugh4:

While I'm posting I guess I could say great job Hoggy!:2thumbsup:

[IPoseTheQuestionYouReturnTheAnswer]

I'm curious...do the cannons have new firing sounds? Seems like the onager sound just wouldn't fit. Maybe even muzzle flashes? Ooo!