Britannia Hotseat Campaign:OOC thread

[Zim]

Ireland's up. Sorry to have taken so long, especially for such a noneventful turn.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-23-2.zip

[phonicsmonkey]

Wales is up - I think barca is back as I got a pm from him earlier, but I'll sub the welsh turn tomorrow if not...

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-23-3.zip

[barcamartin]

I won't be back until Saturday, but I have access to a computer with internet. It doesn't, however, have the game installed. So I won't be able to play for the remainder of the week. If phonics would be so kind and keep subbing for me, that would be most appreciated.

[phonicsmonkey]

I will sub your turn tonight barca

[phonicsmonkey]

bonnie scotland is up

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-23-4.zip

[deguerra]

I have to hand it to you, Tristan, you know your autocalc. Too bloody well for my liking. One day, when we are no longer fighting one another, you will have to teach me :D

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-23-5.rar

[_Tristan_]

But even being the King of auto-calc cannot help when evreyone sides against you...

https://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee86/badlieutenant_bucket/FailureNorway.jpg

Save for England

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-24-1.rar

Was nice playing although I wouldn't have done it like Cheetah...

If you play it once again, I'll take Norway again just to see what it is possible to do with it...

[barcamartin]

I must say that you put up a harder fight than anyone could have expected. You truly went down fighting, and you deserve alot of credit for your efforts in this hotseat !:applause:

[_Tristan_]

My pleasure, kind sir... :bow:

[phonicsmonkey]

yes, very well played Tristan, I commend you for your fighting spirit

and thanks for stepping in and taking over Norway in a bad spot

here, have a balloon :balloon2:

[deguerra]

Indeed, Tristan, now that it's (finally) over, let me also say thankyou very much for making this a whole lot more interesting, and much much more challenging. I thought I had victory in the bag when I handed over to barcamartin, but then first Cheetah and finally you came up with such brilliance that it took a whole lot longer (and leaves bonnie Scotland minus two kings, and in shambles). But if I had to do it again, I would, because it was an exhilarating ride!

[Zim]

Ireland's up!

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-24-2.zip

[_Tristan_]

It was an exhilarating ride!

Yeah...

Like I said in other games, I never fight better than when cornered...

There must be some badger- or boar-blood in me :inquisitive:

Anyway, I had a blast...

At the start I did it to be proud to hand Cheetah back a faction in a better state but seeing how he seems not to come back I tried my best to carve myself a Kingdom...

Too bad he had alienated the whole lot of you IC (but understandable...) and too bad I had no bargaining chip...

If England had remained neutral, I might still be fighting (their Nelson's fleet caused great harm...)...

I hope you can rise up from the ashes of your country and make your place in the world (though I'm afraid you'll be next to go...)

One reflection on the hotseat games : strange how it seems to bring out the agressive side of players... Even is SP, players will tend to attack only rebels, settle a little, wait for a betrayal or make a single attack on a neighbor but in MP games, it is a free-for-all from turn one when we could leave peacefully for many turns leveling up before turning on one another...

Like I pointed to Zim some time ago, these games tend to bring out the paranoia that we all share a part of...

[Zim]

Actually, it wasn't my fleet that made the killing blows against the Norse one. I was able to reach your main fleet with some of my ships but not enough to take it on. Scotland dealt the first blow, with my guys as reinforcements, then I think it was Ireland (not sure though) that took it out. Only after did I start wandering around the sea with multiple nearly full stack fleets.

MP does seem to make players more aggressive but diplomacy plays a big role in how paranoid they are. I refused to take a very good excuse to take out Wales early on when they (note, this was with their previous player) unwisely attacked a settlement of mine to gain leverage for a settlement they really wanted (in Wales proper). Instead I traded the settlement to keep the peace, even knowing no other country would help them against me at the time.

I also tend to trust allies not to attack me without cancelling the alliance a turn earlier or declaring war, much to my chagrin in the MPC and Teutonic games. I guess some of us are more naive than others.

[_Tristan_]

Actually, it wasn't my fleet that made the killing blows against the Norse one.

Yep, but I was prepared to deal with all others, your taking part (if only to assist) was decisive...

But no hard feelings...:2thumbsup:

[Zim]

I don't know, they might ahve had a chance without the 3-4 ships I contributed to the actual battle. :clown:

I think the real clincher was when William Wallace showed up right on the front lines. I'm not sure there was much you could do at that point, even if you had control of the seas and I hadn't taken Wick.


Yep, but I was prepared to deal with all others, your taking part (if only to assist) was decisive...

But no hard feelings...:2thumbsup:

[phonicsmonkey]

wales is up next

Zim, can we wait for barca who will be back to gaming on saturday?

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-24-3.zip

[Zim]

I think we can wait two days. :yes:

[_Tristan_]

Two days of mourning for Norway ?...

Thanks, I appreciate...


:clown:

[barcamartin]

I'll be sure to end the mourning on Saturday. Thanks for your patience ! :)

[Zim]

:birthday2: More likely two days of celebration in Scotland...


Two days of mourning for Norway ?...

Thanks, I appreciate...


:clown:

[barcamartin]

Finally, the Welsh turn is done ! Thanks guys for waiting for me, and special thanks to phonics for subbing ! :beam:

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-24-4.zip

[deguerra]

Dear Gods Scotland is in a sorry state. I can barely afford the military I have now, and my population is non-existant. I have Perth with about 15000 inhabitants. The next in line is Edinburgh with about 2500 :@.

England is up:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-25-1.rar

[Zim]

Ireland's up.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-25-2.zip

[phonicsmonkey]

wales is up

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-25-3.zip

[phonicsmonkey]

ahem

[barcamartin]

:oops: ! Sorry guys, I have played the turn and zipped it, but forgot to upload. It has been on my desktop since I played it, as I don't remove it until the player after me has done his turn. I thought degeurra was the one holding it up .... :embarassed:

Anyway, there we go.

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-25-4.zip

[deguerra]

no worries barca. will get to this tomorrow guys im kinda dead on my feet.

[deguerra]

england is up:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-26-1.rar

[_Tristan_]

Anyone care to tell me how things are going ? plz

[Zim]

As far as I can tell a whole lot of nothing has happened. :clown:

I should get both this and my Novgorod save up later today. :thumsbup:

[Zim]

Ireland's up.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-26-2.zip

[phonicsmonkey]

wales is up

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-26-3.zip

[barcamartin]

A bit faster this time. ~;) Scotland's up !

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-26-4.zip

[deguerra]

England:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-27-1.rar

[_Tristan_]

I can't help but feel sad when I see Deguerra's posts in this thread

England's up ..... BWAHAHAHAHA !!!~:mecry: ~:mecry:

[Zim]

Ireland's up.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-27-2.zip

[phonicsmonkey]

wales is up

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-27-3.zip

[barcamartin]

There we go, Scotland's up !

http://mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-27-4.zip

[deguerra]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-28-1.rar

England is up

[Zim]

So, guys, on the off chance the new patch is not save game compatible, what shall we do? Trudge on without it? Decide the Kingdoms of Britannia live happily ever after and start a new game?

I find the part about fixing hotseat scrolls promising, although it probably doesn't mean what I hope it does. :clown:

[phonicsmonkey]

my vote would be carry on without it - we're 27 turns in!

I won't be patching until an official patch is released anyways

we can always patch a separate installation if we want to play patched SP

EDIT: think I misunderstood..

[Zim]

I was thinking of after the official patch came out. Game takes way to long to reinstall for me to use another leaked patch. :clown:

My biggest fear is that one or two of the games I'm in will start losing players if some people decide to patch. I'm not sure what I'd do if that happened. In the meantime, I'm perfectly happy to go on without the patch, although I suspect to be facing a multi-pronged attack in this game pretty soon. :sweatdrop:


my vote would be carry on without it - we're 27 turns in!

I won't be patching until an official patch is released anyways

we can always patch a separate installation if we want to play patched SP

EDIT: think I misunderstood..

[Zim]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-28-2.zip

Ireland's up.

[phonicsmonkey]

sorry, won't get to this tonight, will have to be tomorrow

[phonicsmonkey]

wales is up

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-28-3.zip

[barcamartin]

Scotland's up !

http://mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-28-4.zip

[deguerra]

England:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-29-1.rar

[phonicsmonkey]

ahem

[Zim]

hema

[Zim]

Will have this up asap. I need to wait for a pm, lest I needlessly commit an act of war. If anyone would prefer I hurry my turn up, I'll just go ahead. :yes:

[phonicsmonkey]

no hurry mate, just checking you'd seen it was your turn

take your time

[Zim]

Ireland's up.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-29-2.zip

[phonicsmonkey]

wales is up

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-29-3.zip

[barcamartin]

Scotland's up !

http://mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-29-4.zip

[deguerra]

England is up:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-30-1.rar

[Zim]

Ireland's up. I see my noose tightening. :skull:

http://mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-30-2.zip

[phonicsmonkey]

wales is up

dang this one is moving quickly!

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-30-3.zip

[barcamartin]

I just did my turn last night ! Shouldn't complain though, speed is a good thing.

Will get to it soon.

[barcamartin]

There we go. Scotland's up!!

http://mizus.com/files/pbm/Britanni-30-4.zip

[deguerra]

England:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britanni-31-1.rar

(Just noticed I seem to have lost an a in Britannia. Might want to fix that)

Just on a strictly OOC note, I am currently trying to play out my somewhat split faction allegiances a bit, but don't really have the time for many in-depth posts.

[barcamartin]

That would be my fault. Faulted when saving my turn, but didn't have the strength to go back and correct it. :p

[Zim]

Sorry guys, will get this up later today.

[Zim]

Ireland is up. I can't believe we're at turn 31.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-31-2.zip

[phonicsmonkey]

wales is up

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-31-3.zip

[barcamartin]

Scotland's up !!

http://mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-31-4.zip

[deguerra]

Hey guys,

the .org uploader is wonky again, how do I upload directly to mizus. Checked out their site, but didnt find anything...

[barcamartin]

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbmupload.php

[deguerra]

Here we (finally) go:

http://mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-32-1.rar

[Zim]

Ireland's up.

http://mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-32-2.zip

[phonicsmonkey]

wales is up

http://mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-32-3.zip

[barcamartin]

Scotland !!

http://mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-32-4.zip

[phonicsmonkey]

scotland?

[deguerra]

:furious3:

:oops:

[deguerra]

:furious3:

:oops:

http://mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-33-1.rar

:2thumbsup:

:clown:

[Zim]

Sorry for taking so long. Have a lot of things to consider this turn, but I'll still be done before the 48 hours deadline.

[Zim]

Made it in time! I endeavored to make some decisions for other players easier. Expect a post in the Council thread.

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-33-2.zip

[Zim]

Just a note, when I said I "trapped" a Welsh army in the Council, I don't mean the surround and destroy (I consider that an exploit) but that I caught them in a settlement. :yes:

[phonicsmonkey]

wales is up

http://mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-33-3.zip

[barcamartin]

Scotland's up !!

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-33-4.zip

[deguerra]

England:

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-34-1.rar

[Zim]

Time to see what kind of havoc has been caused on my poor English territories. :clown:

[Zim]

Hey guys, I ran into a slight problem. I attacked a fleet in port this turn, and well, I was able to attack the fleet itself, rather than just blockading the port. I played around a bit, and it's a repeatable "bug". If I scout out the area first, so that I see the fleet in port, I can attack it. If I go for the port while it's in the FOW, I can blockade it as normal, without hitting the fleet inside.

I can try redoing it that way, but even if I try to retrace the steps I'd taken that turn, there's a good chance things would turn out differently. They turned out pretty badly for me, so being able to redo the turn might not be so great for you guys. :clown:

What do you think, this is a bug, isn't it? I can just play through, or redo the turn. Up to you guys.

[deguerra]

That better not be my fleet! :laugh4:

To be honest, I don't know if it's a bug. To be certain, I was under the impression that fleets in port can only be blockaded, but perhaps this is another feature Paradox introduced into kingdoms without telling anyone.

In any case, if it is my fleet, feel free to continue. Scotland has no more use for boats anyway. However, I wouldn't really mind you replaying that turn either, so long as you don't give yourself too much of a benefit of hindsight. But I know you wouldn't do that.

Have I helped you make a decision? Not at all :oops:

[Zim]

Paradox? I don't remember being able to attack ships in ports in EU3. :clown:

I could try to replay every step, but since I lost pretty much every roll of the dice in this turn (except, ironically, the fleet battle. Maybe the game felt sorry for me. :clown:), just doing that might change things in my favor.


That better not be my fleet! :laugh4:

To be honest, I don't know if it's a bug. To be certain, I was under the impression that fleets in port can only be blockaded, but perhaps this is another feature Paradox introduced into kingdoms without telling anyone.

In any case, if it is my fleet, feel free to continue. Scotland has no more use for boats anyway. However, I wouldn't really mind you replaying that turn either, so long as you don't give yourself too much of a benefit of hindsight. But I know you wouldn't do that.

Have I helped you make a decision? Not at all :oops:

[phonicsmonkey]

sounds like a bug to me - up to you whether you replay or not, I don't mind

[deguerra]

:sweatdrop:

I do love EU3. Magna Mundi Gold 2 is out now, by the way :2thumbsup:

[Zim]

Guess I'll play through. If it makes a difference, I ran into another bug that hurt me. :clown:

I've noticed a lot of patches for Magni Mundi Gold 2. I'll probably get it after a few more or done.

I admit to being a sucker for the more sandbox like characteristics of vanilla, so I tend to play it when I do small nations. :sweatdrop: Also like to do multi country aars, which I don't think work as well with MM (due to some of the scripted historic events).

Still, one of my favorite games was one I did an aar for MM Gold 1 as Austria. :beam:

I'm starting a new aar that's meant to be interactive for the readers. Check it out if you'd like. :yes:

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=354471


:sweatdrop:

I do love EU3. Magna Mundi Gold 2 is out now, by the way :2thumbsup:

[Zim]

Ireland's up!

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-34-2.zip

[Zim]

Oh, and deguerra? Sorry, it was your fleet. With Wallace deep in English territory I didn't see much sense in dawdling. :sweatdrop:

[deguerra]

hmph! So much for Edwards flowery words :laugh4:

[Zim]

Edward would possibly consider withdrawing his fleet if Wallace withdrew. The fact that Wallace was far into my territory (as opposed to just over the edge) and likelihood of hearing next turn that "Wallace" decided he had to attack one of my settlements on his own made me think a demonstration of power might be more effective than waiting to be attacked. :clown:

King Donald is welcome to take one of my castles to hide in, if he'd like. :yes:


hmph! So much for Edwards flowery words :laugh4:

[phonicsmonkey]

wales is up

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-34-3.zip

oh no! Domnall is evil! :smash:

[barcamartin]

Man, time to see what damage has been done by the vile serpent that is Domnall. :clown:

[barcamartin]

There we go, probably the last turn of the Welsh. Good luck deguerra !

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-34-4.zip

[Zim]

Deguerra?

[deguerra]

dammit. how do I forget about the Britannia one every time? :wall:

sorry guys, will do this tonight

[phonicsmonkey]

EDIT: sorry, you already did your BC turn, my mistake

[deguerra]

:laugh4: indeed I had

sorry guys, I am encountering internet problems every time i try to load mizus. The website itself seems to be working fine enough, but when i try to download anything from there it just never starts.

does somebody want to sub for me? this is costing time, and while scotland is in a bit of a jiffy, to be honest i dont really care :beam:

the password is "wallace" or possibly "Wallace". I dont really mind who does.

[barcamartin]

I would do it, if I had any time to spare. If I am to sub his turn, it'll probably have to wait until Friday evening GMT +1.

[Zim]

No problem, we've been going extremely fast for most of the game. :2thumbsup:

We can wait for barcamartin. At this point I think it prudent that an ally of deguerra's or someone not in the game should sub. :clown:

[barcamartin]

Got some time to spare, so here we go. England's up !!

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/Britannia-35-1.zip