Are Scandinavians superior to everyone else?

I was just watching a french documentary*, and it struck me; the narrator was talking french! If I was in another country, like England, Germany or Italy, he would've been dubbed, but he wasn't dubbed here. In Norway, Denmark and Sweden we don't dub anything apart from cartoons aimed at 7-year olds(like Lion King), and even those are always screened in two version, one dubbed and one original. French, German, English, whatever, we don't dub things.

But it's done everywhere else. Does this simply make me and my Swedish and Danish friends superior to everyone else on the planet? Why are everyone else afraid of foreign languages, why don't they want to learn them?



*incidentally about Mein Kampf....

No.

Swedens greatest tradition is stealing meatballs from Italy and putting them in jelly instead of Marninira

Norway still hunts whales because its like that one kid in high school who wanted to be cool so he did really stupid crap to get attention.

Denmark has really done nothing, ever. I really can't say anything bad about them other than there capital cities name is a blatant rip off of smokeless tabacco.

Finlands greateast treasure is killing a whole bunch of Russians....like it's something hard to do.

Iceland just sucks.

Oh and Lutafisk. That's turrible.

The only redeemable lot is the Sami.

About Subbing/Dubbing:

No, it is basically you speak a minority language and the problem is, it costs money to translate it.

This again, also happens vice-versus. There are many films and programmes done in languages such as French/Norwegian/Russian/Etc which simply aren't translated into English, because the people who create it, don't want to pay people to recast the voices and all the effort it might involve to do it, hence, only do a subs.

About Languages:

This is a different issue, but a big problem is, there are simply too many languages to learn. Also with English being the most spoken language and its status of being the international Lingua Franca, majority of people from other nations speak and read/write English thus in England/America/Anglosphere, there isn't a priority in learning other languages as others simply speak English.

Are Scandinavians superior to everyone else?

Obviously the answer is no. Everyone is equal.

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

Does this simply make me and my Swedish and Danish friends superior to everyone else on the planet?

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Yeah, this and some other factors too.

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Originally Posted by Beskar

About Subbing/Dubbing:

No, it is basically you speak a minority language and the problem is, it costs money to translate it.

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So is Bulgarian, Romanian, Greek and a bunch of other dubbers.

The difference is that we've got oil to pay for everything, while all they have is unemployed people. So.... Considering that they lack money, and we've got too much to spend, I ask again, why do they translate, while we don't? I mean... Explanations other than us being the greatest people of earth, of course.

Point is; a dubbing stuff doesn't sell to anyone over the age of 10 here. But it does in other countries. Why?



@Strike: I'm going to have to give you the grade "Epic Fail". Scandinavia is just Denmark, Norway and Sweden, it doesn't include Finland or Iceland.

Oh, and hunting whales is awesome, and you know it. Clubbing baby seals is cool too.

Shifting over to the right in your old age?

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

I was just watching a french documentary, and it struck me; the narrator was talking french! If I was in another country, like England, Germany or Italy, he would've been dubbed, but he wasn't dubbed here. In Norway, Denmark and Sweden we don't dub anything apart from cartoons aimed at 7-year olds(like Lion King), and even those are always screened in two version, one dubbed and one original. French, German, English, whatever, we don't dub things.

But it's done everywhere else. Does this simply make me and my Swedish and Danish friends superior to everyone else on the planet? Why are everyone else afraid of foreign languages, why don't they want to learn them?

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..................... err, we don't need to because in the last 250 years we spent a fair amount of effort getting everyone else to speak our language.

a Finnish friend of mine just got back from three months travelling in E Asia, and he was accosted more than once by pretty girls who just wanted someone to practice their English upon, rather than the usual swarm of beggars and street-sellers.

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

@Strike: I'm going to have to give you the grade "Epic Fail". Scandinavia is just Denmark, Norway and Sweden, it doesn't include Finland or Iceland.

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:inquisitive: Picky much?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia

You Norwegians have always been crazy.

The focus on languages no doubt is a combination of a minority native tongue and a reliance on overseas trade in commerce. Ergo, you went places and needed to talk to people, ergo you learned the local languages.

Your socialised education may actually have been constructed by someone with a brain, as well, rather than by the Labour Party.

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Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

:inquisitive: Picky much?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia

You Norwegians have always been crazy.

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The difference between Scandinavia and the North is something we learn upon pain of death at the age of 9. To hear someone say that Finland is a part of Scandinavia hurts me in my special place.

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Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

The focus on languages no doubt is a combination of a minority native tongue and a reliance on overseas trade in commerce. Ergo, you went places and needed to talk to people, ergo you learned the local languages.

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No we don't actually know the languages.... Almost everyone(except some elderly I guess) knows english, and quite a few people have at least some knowledge of either German or French, but not much more than that. But we have subtitles instead of dubbing, simply because dubbing stuff is.... Well, lame.

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

The difference between Scandinavia and the North is something we learn upon pain of death at the age of 9. To hear someone say that Finland is a part of Scandinavia hurts me in my special place.



No we don't actually know the languages.... Almost everyone(except some elderly I guess) knows english, and quite a few people have at least some knowledge of either German or French, but not much more than that. But we have subtitles instead of dubbing, simply because dubbing stuff is.... Well, lame.

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I usually prefer just subtitles too, but I think the reason is money more than anything. The English dubbing on Bruce Lee's movies for instance is soooo awefull!

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Originally Posted by Just Vuk Again

I usually prefer just subtitles too, but I think the reason is money more than anything. The English dubbing on Bruce Lee's movies for instance is soooo awefull!

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Yes, but that goes right to my original question.... Why do you make money dubbing things in your countries, while you'll lose money doing the same here?

how many languages do you know?

i know two am conversational in a third and take a fourth right now. I am also 17 years old. (now having some convenient family members who speak said languages helps, but no matter, the point stands)


appearing a little xenophobic and extremely nationalistic aren't we my lefty foreigner.

oh how the tables have turned.......

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

Yes, but that goes right to my original question.... Why do you make money dubbing things in your countries, while you'll lose money doing the same here?

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I think because people (like my family :P) love to watch movies casually and not pay that good of attention (cause they are talking, reading, eating, etc). It is really easy to eat popcorn and listen to people talking in English, and get the general gist of the movie without paying a lot of attention. With subtitles on the other hand, you gotta pay a lot more attention to the movie.

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Yes, but that goes right to my original question.... Why do you make money dubbing things in your countries, while you'll lose money doing the same here?

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because we arent wasting our money on government programs. so we spend it on whatever we wish, like terribly done dubbing


oh and i always use subtitles on all movies no matter what the language

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

No we don't actually know the languages.... Almost everyone(except some elderly I guess) knows english, and quite a few people have at least some knowledge of either German or French, but not much more than that. But we have subtitles instead of dubbing, simply because dubbing stuff is.... Well, lame.

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Oh, is that all. I thought you were making some kind of point. We do the same here these days, it's the current fashion to subtitle.

I've never seen a Norwegian movie dubbed here. Well, they never show Norwegian movies here, so...

^ ouch better go get some ice cause that was a burn :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

No we don't actually know the languages.... Almost everyone(except some elderly I guess) knows english, and quite a few people have at least some knowledge of either German or French, but not much more than that. But we have subtitles instead of dubbing, simply because dubbing stuff is.... Well, lame.

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hah, you should try poland, they just lower the original soundtrack volume and put a voice-over of the dialogue done by one person over the top.

painful to watch!

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Originally Posted by Furunculus

hah, you should try poland, they just lower the original soundtrack volume and put a voice-over of the dialogue done by one person over the top.

painful to watch!

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I remember in Latvia, they had 2 to 3 sets of subtitles depending, though usually just Latvian and Russian. The clincher was, during one of the movies, they spoke Chinese or something at a scene, and there were no English subtitles! That scene was evil.

Though in another movie, I think it was Rock'n'Roller, they had this Russian bad-guy and everyone was laughing at he was pictured/stereotype, they laughed even more when in a scene they were speaking Russian (Which was also subtitled in English), what the subtitle said and what they actually spoke in Russian were two vastly different things. They spoke something like "damn, it is another scene" and it was subtitled as "Let's go and kill her".

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

appearing a little xenophobic and extremely nationalistic aren't we my lefty foreigner.

oh how the tables have turned.......

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Missed the good ol' irony there, did you? ~;)

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Originally Posted by Just Vuk Again

I think because people (like my family :P) love to watch movies casually and not pay that good of attention (cause they are talking, reading, eating, etc). It is really easy to eat popcorn and listen to people talking in English, and get the general gist of the movie without paying a lot of attention. With subtitles on the other hand, you gotta pay a lot more attention to the movie.

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I disagree. How can you have a conversation and pay attention to someone talking in a movie at the same time? With subtitles you don't have to worry about having loud conversations anymore, you just need to read to pay attention...

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

^ ouch better go get some ice cause that was a burn :laugh4:

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It most certainly was not, I seriously doubt that you'll be able to find someone with a deeper hatred of norwegian movies than me.... It's complete and utter crap all of it(yes, especially the new one, Max manus). Why else do you think I started this topic? It's certainly not because I don't watch a lot of foreign movies.... :clown:

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Originally Posted by Furunculus

hah, you should try poland, they just lower the original soundtrack volume and put a voice-over of the dialogue done by one person over the top.

painful to watch!

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I watched Rambo dubbed to German on a holiday once. I've had my share.... On the plus side, they did show porn after the movie.

But how much of the movie can you Norwegians actually see? I mean there is going to be subtitles for like however many versions of Norwegian you guys have come up with so far? or have the digital age improved on that and the viewer can just take his pick? :beam:


CBR

I find it easier to follow films with the subtitles on. I think my hearings not to great because a lot of the time I can't make out what people are saying without them.

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Originally Posted by CBR

But how much of the movie can you Norwegians actually see? I mean there is going to be subtitles for like however many versions of Norwegian you guys have come up with so far? or have the digital age improved on that and the viewer can just take his pick? :beam:

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We're forced to have the subtitle the media decides to use, which means that some fine programs gets ruined by new-norwegian subtitles.... That only happens on the state-owned NRK though, all the others points their middle finger at anything but standard norwegian....

Anyway.........

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

We're forced to have the subtitle the media decides to use, which means that some fine programs gets ruined by new-norwegian subtitles....

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Nynorsk? You have my sympathies :dizzy2:

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Originally Posted by CBR

Nynorsk? You have my sympathies :dizzy2:

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The Swedes actually understand that gibberish. Says more about them than about us, I think... And I don't mean in a good way.

It's always been my understanding that in order to have a good understand of nynorsk, you also need to have an....intimate... understanding of sheep... if you catch my drift....

What's a scan-din-avia? And whose this norway fellow you keep speaking about?

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

I disagree. How can you have a conversation and pay attention to someone talking in a movie at the same time? With subtitles you don't have to worry about having loud conversations anymore, you just need to read to pay attention...

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lol, you have not met my family. :P

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

@Strike: I'm going to have to give you the grade "Epic Fail". Scandinavia is just Denmark, Norway and Sweden, it doesn't include Finland or Iceland.

Oh, and hunting whales is awesome, and you know it. Clubbing baby seals is cool too.

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Yawn, All of you look the same from up on my throne.

No, their blonde hair and gargantuan size makes them easy pickin's for the lizardfolk.

I haven't seen a dubbed movie released in the US ever. Or a TV show other than Japanese game shows. Everything I have ever seen that is dubbed was either really old, or really Japanese.