Mass Effect 17er [Game Thread]

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Originally Posted by Esooa

feels kinda early for this, and usually when I have this many early town reads I get kinda paranoid

Idr if Hally is the same but hopefully I see at least some of that later

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to clarify i’m not like, married to these reads and a lot of them are pretty thin. that’s kinda the first step of solving for me (just dividing the game by good feels/absence of good feels) and as i go on i’ll obviously continue to re-evaluate

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Originally Posted by Esooa

+1 to cuth but I wanna hear more from him about the reads on like, myself and GH

do I just vote by bolding? like this lol?

vote: Cuthalion

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what didn’t you like about cuth?

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

SO I completely understand what you are saying here but I know GH won't get it, so for his benefit what would be your current lean on esooa

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it's unrelated to that specific train of thought, but moderate strength v from some posts early on/how i feel her game has played out since

i find myself vaguely townreading p much all of the people who are actually doing things

which is prooobably not correct (this originally said "clearly" and then i remembered teamgame)

we'll workshop it

morning

i fixed my sleep schedule:bounce:

even though it won't last long lol

i'll be catching up ~slowly~ while i get breakfast

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

Outside of this quick check in I won't really be around much until later tonight at the earliest or tomorrow. I'm going to do my best to land in the 75 post range at the end of the day (one for my own sanity, two because I am a visitor to the forum and think it's pretty clear that high volume isn't really what the regulars here are hoping for).

I don't really have many Dya thoughts. I had a brief interaction with her, did a couple of quick lower post count isos before I headed out later, saw hers and thought it was the posting of someone that didn't really want to be there. I thought it was possibly due to randing wolf yet again after getting a small break in the rand last game and voted her. Nothing that has happened since has made me feel differently but there's other things I've been focusing on so it's kinda on the back burner.

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yeah, their lack of presence so far feels out of step with them saying they’re relieved to have randed villa again. if they are it’s not coming through in their posts

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Originally Posted by Hally

re: bolded - why wouldn’t you?

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because sometimes i like to stew on things and not force people's hands so they get defensive and i confbias on them and the focus becomes more on whether or not they're conforming to my particular standards by which i'm reading them than how they'd post if they were free to do whatever

because that's not a ton of fun

but i also thought the posts were pretty bad

and i'd have likely mentioned it in passing or implicitly at some point after having caught up if visor hadn't

ye if i wasnt voting amy id be hard pressed to not vote dya sadly

ill have to give dya an iso later
@Montmorency

what do you think of the pzelda townread phenom

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

im also binging money heist, on season 2 episode 4

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nice, I'm on season 3 ep 6

it's wild, and for reference I think i started watching it like 2 or 3 days ago lol

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

nothing to say about pzelda

you're there because you made a few posts that read well emotionally (i know people hate this sort of read because emotions aren't something you're supposed to read people off of but i don't care) early on and i feel pretty good about how your approach has lined up with those specific feelings

gh and amy are both the sort of players who sound reasonable and present plausible logical arguments no matter what they're doing, but i dislike the angles they've taken with their reads and where they've engaged to a degree, and neither has presented a lot of Caring about their reads or state in the game at this point

which is just me trying to find slightly different words than the ones i used talking to visor just now-- essentially, both feel like they are Making Points but lacking in the depth and subtleties that i expect to see from them as villagers

i'm not smitten with gh's swap onto amy and i wanted to give amy some space after her posts just now (i don't think they sway the needle entirely, but i resonate with the humanity in them), thus the vote switch just now

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re: esooa - if you’re talking about her saying she was nervous about playing with this roster, i agree. i used to think that kind of sentiment was more NAI but in the past several months i’ve noticed that whenever i’ve expressed that kind of sentiment or seen others express it, it’s always been as villa. my theory is that villagers are more likely to vocalize that imposter syndrome type feeling because they’re just being transparent about their mindset and have no reason not to be, whereas wolves shy away from it because they associate expressing nervousness with wolfiness or just like, vulnerability and they tend to want to craft a different sort of image

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Originally Posted by Visor

ye if i wasnt voting amy id be hard pressed to not vote dya sadly

ill have to give dya an iso later
@Montmorency

what do you think of the pzelda townread phenom

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A source of spew one way or another, for those who care to review D1 in midgame.

Independently, maybe I'm just way off in a contrarian muddle here in light of the consensus. When a (non-mechanical) consensus forms around a player D1 it deserves privileging absent a strong compulsion to the contrary.

All I can recall from the meta is that Zelda is more aggressive as scum, but I can't even evaluate just how aggressive he's been here against baseline. But what really pinged me is that I straight-up disliked his reasoning about most everything, substantively. I can't recall how that fits into meta either. Regrettable, as I should have a good grasp on his style after receiving it in a good number of games and mix of roles in short succession (6?). Such is the life of the amnesiac protagonist.

If that's all the traction my commentary is getting for now, I'll log off.

Y'all read my walls or I probably won't respond to anything concerning me!

Actually, when I said aggressive, maybe I meant passive-aggressive. One or the other.

Then again, I can't even articulate the difference in abstract in mafia context.

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Originally Posted by Csargo

pzelda>Esooa>GH>Cuth,you, Hally.

I can't really explain the zelda read any better. Other than from last game to this game looks the same to me, so I don't think it's hard to infer that zelda's probably town here. I don't have much to say about the other's that I haven't already said somewhere else.

Cuth, Ara, Hally are just people I felt okay with from skimming the thread, I don't really have anything to point to, to say why exactly. Just that they were people who seemed good to me. I don't want to think about it too much tbh.

I don't understand your second question if I'm honest. Dolby's usually pretty clear-cut and has well thought-out insights regarding the game. This just looks really messy to me. I dunno, it's not really that good of an argument, but ~:shrug:

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reading csargo’s posts keeps giving me the feeling of a wolf that doesn’t really know what to post/how to fake reads. his explanations have felt so vague and nondescript that i feel like he’s kinda just saying stuff to say it

any of the org folk have a take on this? are these kinds of posts normal for him?

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

and now for something completely different.

I like to play sudokus while listening to lofi beats playlists.

who finds this relateable

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That's extremely relatable!!!!!!

Though I've gotten into nonograms lately, courtesy of Esooa; they're very hype!!!!

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Originally Posted by dyachei

i dont remember anymore

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bruh

Vote: dyachei

that dya sequence of “i like ara” -> “i’m nodding along to her posts” -> “i don’t remember what i was nodding along to” in the span of 15 min is a thonk

i know dya said they were super tired but c’mon

I've really liked cuth catching up

nl has been trending up too

I feel like Amy could kiiiind of go either way atm?

I've got mostly selfish concerns because I think she would've tried to bounce off me harder as a villager esp since she was repping a v read on my slot

But I could be totally off on that metric lol

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Originally Posted by Visor

anyone have thoughts on esooa not caring about the actual content of my post but that i

a) posted a read

b) posted a long post?

i mean she quoted the wall but had nothing to say on it

idk, its a case, i would like feedback

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the only i got from it was it felt vaguely not w/w with amy because i kinda feel like an amy teammate would feel the need to say something about the actual content of the case

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

morning

i fixed my sleep schedule:bounce:

even though it won't last long lol

i'll be catching up ~slowly~ while i get breakfast

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Gooooood morning!!!!!!

It's mafia hype times!!!!

Did you have any exciting mafia dreams?

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Originally Posted by Hally

that dya sequence of “i like ara” -> “i’m nodding along to her posts” -> “i don’t remember what i was nodding along to” in the span of 15 min is a thonk

i know dya said they were super tired but c’mon

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At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I want to say that they'd make up something there? I feel like many if not all of my posts were !!!!!!! and it would not have been difficult to just pick a post or two out!!

Take that with a grain of salt though, I guess!!!

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Town
pzelda | Hally | Esooa

Town enough
Ara | Visor

Town for now
Sunbae | Colonel | Csargo

Unsure/no data available
Cuth | Manasi | Maple | Monty

Concerns
Dolby | Ephemeral | Amy

Not really ordered within tiers. Going to bed now, will answer followups (if any) in the AM.

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lol @ you forgetting dya existed. kinda says a lot

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Originally Posted by Hally

what did you like about amy’s thing with me/eph? to me it felt like the kinda thing that a wolf thinks they would say as a villager but actually wouldn’t. also the phrasing of “pocketing” made me feel like she was trying to pocket us. think ladd called it like a reverse pocket? or something. but like, that

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I initially liked it because it feels like something town would approach the game with (yeah I'm going to be careful about these players), but only somewhat because it's something that could easily have been thought/considered pre-rand!!!

extremely dumb take: gh probably doesn’t forget to put dya in his reads if they’re w/w

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Originally Posted by Arapocalypse

Gooooood morning!!!!!!

It's mafia hype times!!!!

Did you have any exciting mafia dreams?

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i've dreamed of sleeping while sleeping

I like Montmorency's walls; feels very !!!!!!!!!!! in a towny way, just getting those thoughts out there!!!!!!!! Waterfalls and everything!!! Mitigating factor that there have been few walls in this game so far and I may be subconsciously inclined to read the condensed content as towny for that reason; however... I like his general conviction and stuff expressed in his posts, particularly the last one; very hype and feels like he's playing without being concerned about an agenda!!

Also, I appreciate the further thoughts on Capage and have taken those into account!!!

No this isn't a TWTBAW read, it's just a straight up towny read!!!!

Regarding the game I was referring to earlier, yeah that was an interesting game... or a disappointing/boring game, depending on your perspective!! Weird stuff where after day 1 eliminated mafia, the rest ended up following suit in unchallenged wagons in the next few days, bit of a bizarre game!

@Montmorency talk about your pzelda vote? was trying to find an explanation in your catchup but i don’t see one

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Originally Posted by Hally

extremely dumb take: gh probably doesn’t forget to put dya in his reads if they’re w/w

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Sure?

I'd be extremely amused if GH randed mafia with Manti yet again!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

i've dreamed of sleeping while sleeping

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Why sleep when you could mafia instead?

Also I'm about where you are at on Amy as well, roughly; hoping for more hype before EoD though as it'd be nice to have a better read there!!

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Originally Posted by Ampharos

thanks boss i don't either

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objection: conflict of interest

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Originally Posted by Ampharos

i find myself vaguely townreading p much all of the people who are actually doing things

which is prooobably not correct (this originally said "clearly" and then i remembered teamgame)

we'll workshop it

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zomg everyone is so villagery

i say as i have like 20 villa reads

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

because sometimes i like to stew on things and not force people's hands so they get defensive and i confbias on them and the focus becomes more on whether or not they're conforming to my particular standards by which i'm reading them than how they'd post if they were free to do whatever

because that's not a ton of fun

but i also thought the posts were pretty bad

and i'd have likely mentioned it in passing or implicitly at some point after having caught up if visor hadn't

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ah, gotcha

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

A source of spew one way or another, for those who care to review D1 in midgame.

Independently, maybe I'm just way off in a contrarian muddle here in light of the consensus. When a (non-mechanical) consensus forms around a player D1 it deserves privileging absent a strong compulsion to the contrary.

All I can recall from the meta is that Zelda is more aggressive as scum, but I can't even evaluate just how aggressive he's been here against baseline. But what really pinged me is that I straight-up disliked his reasoning about most everything, substantively. I can't recall how that fits into meta either. Regrettable, as I should have a good grasp on his style after receiving it in a good number of games and mix of roles in short succession (6?). Such is the life of the amnesiac protagonist.

If that's all the traction my commentary is getting for now, I'll log off.

Y'all read my walls or I probably won't respond to anything concerning me!

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can you cite some specific things you disagreed with capage about?

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

Actually, when I said aggressive, maybe I meant passive-aggressive. One or the other.

Then again, I can't even articulate the difference in abstract in mafia context.

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i don’t really think he’s been aggressive or passive aggressive

he’s been forthright but that’s not really the same thing as aggressive

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

Vote: dyachei

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Originally Posted by Hally

that dya sequence of “i like ara” -> “i’m nodding along to her posts” -> “i don’t remember what i was nodding along to” in the span of 15 min is a thonk

i know dya said they were super tired but c’mon

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quality x-post

also vote: dyachei :pop2:

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Originally Posted by Arapocalypse

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I want to say that they'd make up something there? I feel like many if not all of my posts were !!!!!!! and it would not have been difficult to just pick a post or two out!!

Take that with a grain of salt though, I guess!!!

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i mean, maybe? but at the same time, how do they forget what they just said they were nodding along to if it was significant enough for them to v read you off of

i get it seems twtbaw but i almost feel like it comes full circle to being twtbtwtbaw

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Originally Posted by Arapocalypse

I initially liked it because it feels like something town would approach the game with (yeah I'm going to be careful about these players), but only somewhat because it's something that could easily have been thought/considered pre-rand!!!

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meh, alright. i had the exact opposite impression because i don’t really get why v!amy would actually be scared to v read me or think i could pocket her as a wolf when i’ve never wolfed against her and she’s found me pretty easily each time we’ve been v/v, but i don’t really wanna harp on this

@dyachei do you have an amy read?

i’m finding it hard to process monty’s posts beyond it maybe being vaguely villagery that he’s decided to be contrarian and wolf read the person everyone and their mother is v reading

and i don’t really have any thoughts on cuth beyond that i think his posts are generally agreeable and i liked his takes on esooa

my brain is kinda shutting down

gonna go to sleep unless anyone has something they wanna ask me real quick

oh actually, i forgot to talk about gh

i didn’t really like how he went back to voting eph when eph hadn’t even been itt since he moved off. i don’t even know what i was expecting but i guess like... maybe that he would try to explore new ground or something. so falling back on a push he already made when there was no new posts from eph rubbed me wrong, like maybe he is having a bit of trouble expanding his horizons if that makes sense

also, @GeneralHankerchief did you ever check to see what eph wolf game you were thinking of/if you were even thinking of a wolf game and how does that factor or not factor into your continued focus on eph?

okay, i really gotta sleep

sorry i couldn’t real time more but i’m super tired. hopefully i can catch ppl tomorrow since i probably won’t be around for EoD

@Hally

updated thoughts on amy?

kinda surprised dolby dropped off as he did

i'll be around if anyone wants to bounce stuff off

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Originally Posted by Ampharos

i find myself vaguely townreading p much all of the people who are actually doing things

which is prooobably not correct (this originally said "clearly" and then i remembered teamgame)

we'll workshop it

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@Ampharos

Do you think it's fair of me to read this post and contrast it to the "Sunbae says nice things but he can be doing that as scum and nothing is alignment indicative" post from earlier and be confused?

To me it's come off as if you've started the game from a "posting well isn't alignment indicative" mindset that's approaching things with skepticism and hesitancy and now have shifted to a general "Eh, I'll give town reads to those that are active and figure out any deep scum later" laid back mindset. While I think both mindsets are totally fine and reasonable (I'm personally a big believer in the second one a lot of the time) I'm just a bit confused about what caused the shift between the two.

Secondary question: Can you elaborate a bit on the "p much" portion? That makes it sound like you specifically have an active poster that you don't feel is towny but I could be reading into it too much.

@Manasi

henlo.

my convo with gh from earlier was unsatisfactory as a whole

felt like he was just answering my qs for the sake of answering as opposed to actively being interested in moving it forward to get a better feel of where I was at/what I was doing

Doesn't feel like he's actually trying to gauge me to get a better grasp of my alignment

:shrug:

sup eph

wheres your head at?

I think my "it doesn't read like Dya really wants to be here" read is accurate after her latest stint. My concern is that if there's some real life exhaustion going on then it doesn't necessarily make it alignment indicative. I really struggle with situations like this. For example I could see making the argument that DyaScum has been putting in a halfhearted effort to make an Ara read out of some feeling of obligation for her team even thought she doesn't want to post and being correct about it. I could see making the argument that DyaTown would use the thread more as a hangout and just chat to decompress and being correct about it.

But I don't think either of those things necessarily have to be true so I just sit here unsure what to do. I feel kind of similar with Ampharos' "oog poor state of mind" post. I want to push both of them because I think both have reasonable scum potential but I'm also hesitant to do so further and am just hoping they start feeling it. I think it's the issue of wanting them to be town so we can vibe.

I think my feelings of CsargoScum have strengthened after Mont's wall agreeing with me. Having someone that's had experience playing with Csargo nodding along helps me with my hesitancy on the topic. So I think with all three of these together I'm going to stick on Csargo for a bit longer.

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

I think my "it doesn't read like Dya really wants to be here" read is accurate after her latest stint. My concern is that if there's some real life exhaustion going on then it doesn't necessarily make it alignment indicative. I really struggle with situations like this. For example I could see making the argument that DyaScum has been putting in a halfhearted effort to make an Ara read out of some feeling of obligation for her team even thought she doesn't want to post and being correct about it. I could see making the argument that DyaTown would use the thread more as a hangout and just chat to decompress and being correct about it.

But I don't think either of those things necessarily have to be true so I just sit here unsure what to do. I feel kind of similar with Ampharos' "oog poor state of mind" post. I want to push both of them because I think both have reasonable scum potential but I'm also hesitant to do so further and am just hoping they start feeling it. I think it's the issue of wanting them to be town so we can vibe.

I think my feelings of CsargoScum have strengthened after Mont's wall agreeing with me. Having someone that's had experience playing with Csargo nodding along helps me with my hesitancy on the topic. So I think with all three of these together I'm going to stick on Csargo for a bit longer.

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yeah i was wondering if you were gonna say something like this.

i wholeheartedly agree.

if i was picking people who certainly seem like they don't want to be here for whatever reason, dya/amy would be first cabs off the rank. now i think this can be oog stuff and they can just be having an off game because of that but i'm struggling to village read either based on posts if i'm really honest. i feel kinda hemmed in because i both think they are wolfy and also think that they also have oog stuff that is affecting their play which would make sense.

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Originally Posted by Visor

sup eph

wheres your head at?

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on my shoulders hopefully

I'm currently trying to figure out how good the odds of having most/all wolves in a pool of like

Amy
Dya
Manti
GH
Csargo
Montmorency
Manasi

(not ordered)

what do ya think

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

on my shoulders hopefully

I'm currently trying to figure out how good the odds of having most/all wolves in a pool of like

Amy
Dya
Manti
GH
Csargo
Montmorency
Manasi

(not ordered)

what do ya think

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i don't have any real read on manti but i can't say i disagree with this list

i don't think hally/cuth are wolves, i think you seem to be posting like you were in the later stages of rocks fall game. i think sunbaes pushes are fine. i think ara is fine.

i will say idk how to deal with dolby/esooa

i can believe pzelda is a villa

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Originally Posted by Visor

kinda surprised dolby dropped off as he did

i'll be around if anyone wants to bounce stuff off

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dolby dropoff is also a thing ye

thonk

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Originally Posted by Visor

i don't have any real read on manti but i can't say i disagree with this list

i don't think hally/cuth are wolves, i think you seem to be posting like you were in the later stages of rocks fall game. i think sunbaes pushes are fine. i think ara is fine.

i will say idk how to deal with dolby/esooa

i can believe pzelda is a villa

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lol i definitely need to take a sabbatical from ww if I'm still posting like I was in rocks fall :p

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

lol i definitely need to take a sabbatical from ww if I'm still posting like I was in rocks fall :p

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i think your gameplay switched midgame in rocks fall

its weird :P

Slank cover.

yo.

Official Tally as of #779

3 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, ColonelLubriderm)
3 dyachei (Ampharos, Ephemeral, Hally)

2 Ampharos (Visor, pzelda)
2 Cuthillius (Maple, Esooa)

1 Dolby (Csargo)
1 Ephemeral (GeneralHankerchief)
1 GeneralHankerchief (Cuthillius)
1 pzelda (Montmorency)

Not Voting: Dolby, dyachei, Manasi

Remember when I was hard on the Dolby villa train, those were the days

sup bop

wheres your head at

thoughts on amy/dya/sunbae/gh>

Hally
Esooa

Visor

Cuth
Ara
Sunbae
Pzelda

GH

————— above here be town

Dolby
Montmorency
Ephemeral

Maple
Manasi
Dya
————— below be wolves

Ampharos
Csargo


Where I’m at, GH is currently straddling that line shimmying back and forth down it

Sick xpost.

nice

talk to me about csar and amp then?

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Originally Posted by Visor

nice

talk to me about csar and amp then?

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Csar I feel like I’ve talked a bunch about today between their early posting and this afternoon. Tl;dr not jiving with them.

Amp I’ve been concerned about since sunbae said they were different than previously. I don’t mind dya vote but I would think there would be more to say about it than basically “I wish everyone else wasn’t so villagy” (which is how I interpreted how the6 expressed their inability to throw their vote around). Their wim doesn’t match the mindset and I believe sunbae said it best(if not sun then sorry whoever said it for not crediting) when said that it feels like they don’t want to be here.

Sunbae should probably be with GH but the heart wants what it wants

ay,

gonna devote until :45 before sleeping

I just looked at Dolby join date and now realized they aren’t someone from here I just don’t know but more likely someone I do know.

Good morning,
It will take me some time to post everything I want, but let me share my thoughts on Csargo. I feel like Csargo's posts and opinions might be towny despite being awkward. If you follow his posts, they're very much influenced by what had been overall atmosphere in the thread before the post. I think that as wolf he would be more out of touch (also, that's why I don't tr Monty's contrarian takes).

Should also note that ara/pzelda spots on my list are more because people think they are villagy and I’m going with it.

For now

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Originally Posted by pzelda

Good morning,
It will take me some time to post everything I want, but let me share my thoughts on Csargo. I feel like Csargo's posts and opinions might be towny despite being awkward. If you follow his posts, they're very much influenced by what had been overall atmosphere in the thread before the post. I think that as wolf he would be more out of touch (also, that's why I don't tr Monty's contrarian takes).

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Hey Zelda

Would you say that Monty's performance as maf in Princes was typical for him or is he more able to post well as maf than that?

wait does it not show the quotes a person is quoting when you ISO them?

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Originally Posted by Dolby

Hey Zelda

Would you say that Monty's performance as maf in Princes was typical for him or is he more able to post well as maf than that?

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I have no idea. I'm trying not to rely on meta too heavily. I think this might be on par with his performance there, tho.

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Originally Posted by Esooa

wait does it not show the quotes a person is quoting when you ISO them?

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If you're ISOing me I have a few posts quoted if it helps

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Originally Posted by pzelda

I have no idea. I'm trying not to rely on meta too heavily. I think this might be on par with his performance there, tho.

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Bolded: ok makes sense

I kinda tunneled him D1 but I feel that he was pretty obvious throughout that whole game personally

Sunbae radiating town vibes and that's probably the best explanation that you can get from me rn despite them having quite a few longish posts that I've seen and could analyze.

Ara kinda parkouring her read on me is kinda good and feels like natural progression since she's reacting to each post individually and I feel that for mafia it's more natural to find a take and stick with it

Eph has all the same overall takes I have at this point (~200)

The anime car transformation is... something else

Melded with Hally again that the reasoning in #297 isn't compelling. I guess you could say that Eph is going over the radar bc their posts seem to sift past my mind more than most but they have novel takes. Fwiw I think that that GH post is kinda slightly making me breaking away from my concern specifically about the me/Esooa non w/w take which I felt at the time was him trying to run away with the read at that moment. And also I kinda feel the same way as I do as about Pizza on D1 in this specific where all his scumreads were clearly influenced by his Bianca tunnel and he never acknowledged that until D2.

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Originally Posted by Visor

eh, i did like him forcing that read on hally early game, seemed the kind of silly earlygame villa stuff

but its too early for me to feel confident in any of these reads really)

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I had a read on Hally early game?
Think that's news to me

#337 Monty isn't mafia bc of the epic among us reference

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

Let’s play mason/roleblock/kill

I’ll start

Dolby/csargo/ TBD but manasi for the laughs

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Ok this take is hot

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Originally Posted by pzelda

I'm fairly behind but some early thoughts.

I disagree with GH on Dolby, but not entirely. I think that Dolby going deeper and using previous games is within his town range, but the use and dependence on it should be questioned. I guess it's a good look for Esooa always.

Dya sounded forced in her sod interactions.
Sunbae commenting on them being out of wolf range bothers me a little.

It might take me longer to catch up and play as I have some work in the afternoon, but I should be fairly active in the evening.

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First bolded, I don't like this given how early in day this is. I think the only two reads I really expressed were I felt Esooa slightly t for being a bit snarky about the mason thing, and Monty for not being fully capitalized WHACK. Those aren't really reads I'm going to hold for meta reasons a significant part into the game. I guess my problem with this is that all of my prior occur in like the first 3 hours of the game iirc?

Ok I think this is fine given one of Pzelda's most recent posts

Second bolded, I should probably look into this but I imagine that it's probably Sunbae shitposting and not serious?

I don't think I like reads on me/GH interactions which only give a read on one of us

Pzelda has a segment where he switches his read on GH to town in 21 minutes and that's good from my gut since it does establish some consistency with not liking my posts for meta reasons, I think that he could agree somewhat with GH's initial interpretation. I want him to actually talk about his Monty sus though. I have seen nothing substantive and I'm reading normal far Monty

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Originally Posted by pzelda

I might need to explain, why I got slightly defensive after Visor called me wolfbro. It comes after a reasonable vote on Monty (what's your read there, Visor? I can't recall it), who has a solid chance of flipping wolf after these disastrous posts from earlier. It comes without an explanation, just a cool laid-back call out. The other thing is that Visor feels slightly more focused on looking like town, posting a thin read from time to time. These reads are mostly non-committal.

So, my new mehcore ordered:
Monty, Dya, Amharos, Visor, Dolby

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This is bad

1. Continues to not explain Monty read. Monty's posts certainly weren't disasterous. Dude isn't even whack in lowercase at this point
2. Adds Amp to mehcore after he makes a post thats kinda at odds with putting Amp in mehcore. Except for the Visor comment I'd expect to see Amp slotted in null, but the Amp/Visor comment also was kinda bad bc I think it's them just joshing around.
3. OMGUS is not really with my vision of pzelda

Colonel/GH talk enough to probably not be teammates. Both individually can be fine_TM

Pzelda just continueing to say "kill Monty, kill Monty" and it's making me question if I skipped a post. I think the most reasoning he gave was "disasterous posts" and for Monty and in general Monty's posting has been alright. This is kinda reductionist, outside the Amp/Visor thing I think his other takes have been not hair-raising thus far. Maybe I did skip something but I'm tired. Cutting off at 510

My brain is mush but it's saying gh's 449 is town for some reason

Eh I'll end here and stay up til 3:15

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

Should also note that ara/pzelda spots on my list are more because people think they are villagy and I’m going with it.

For now

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You questioning townreads on Ara is something I wanted to respond to. One there's a difference between you doing that (and your progression on the slot) and Amy just calling out early townreads on Sunbae. It's a tonal difference and I believe there's also a difference of purpose. You wanted to sort out your own thoughts, because you couldn't see reasons for which other people put her in town zone. Amy questioned reads of other people without doing a whole lot of evaluation themselves. Also, I'm keeping my vote on them for now, because their newer posts don't make them look better as they're still not trying to make it clear where they are at.
I don't have Ara as a strong/lock town but her posts are enough for me to put her outside of possible for today. Ara's usually difficult to read, esp early on. I haven't seen any disruptive actions or agenda from her so far and I think that her being wary of jumping on conclusions is her usual self too.

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Originally Posted by Dolby

I kinda tunneled him D1 but I feel that he was pretty obvious throughout that whole game personally

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Does it mean you don't find him obvious here? I find your take little too reserved for my liking.

The posts I’ve seen from him are pretty early game and I thought they were all fine. In Princes I thought he was howling from first posts. I don’t understand why you have him in a wolf slot outside you thinking his posts are disaster OSU bc ???

Eh

Vote: pzelda

Maybe an isolated bad tunnel but I don’t like what I’m seeing here.

Will read the other 300 posts tomorrow

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Originally Posted by Visor

i think your gameplay switched midgame in rocks fall

its weird :P

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it did ye, I forced a shutdown after d1 and pressed the reset button

never fully got there on an emotional level but I did start finding some degree of consistency later on

having the correct image on the mech side of things def helped too