Pirate Ship Mafia III [Concluded]

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

@Kagemusha

Ice was in a protection group with me last night. I informed you of this.

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I can confirm this, as I was in the same protection group.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

It seems strange that so many people were robbed last night.

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Not really. Stealing is available to everyone, and seems to be the default action of the selfish townie or scum. That, + the French didn't kill, so they were doing something else. Stealing being a possibility.

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Originally Posted by Andres

The Captain was guarding his gold.

Double A put someone in jail.

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Wait, I thought you had an allignment scan? Or does your investigation only reveal people's actions?

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Originally Posted by Andres

What is treacherous about trying to get your hands on some unprotected gold?

However, for the paranoid among you, Golden Hands offer their services to protect your hard earned gold.

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Stealling distracts from scumhunting sowes inter-town conflict. The same, incidently, is true of racketeering, which is basically what your doing with this whole "Golden Hands" thing. Ordering people to steal, and then demanding money in exchange for protection.

I've also receieved confirmation that Kage has been ordering people to steal, which has no effect, except to sow discord amongst townies and waste people's time. Basically Kage is ordering people to do anti-town things

vote: Mutiny and vote: Anders

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Originally Posted by El Barto

Nae sic thin' as an end tae rum!

This would appear ta be the present tally, if anyone be enough o' a scurvy cur ta be misrepresented here or na' represented at all, then let hisself be heard from.

El Barto: Sprig
Montmorency: Andres
Andres: Montmorency

Mutiny: Zack; Visorslash; Lissa; Ishmael; Montmorency; landlubber; TheFlax

Why be nae one o' ye scurvy curs votin'?

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Telling other people to vote, but not voting for anyone yourself? unvote: Anders. vote El Barto

Why can't I lynch both of you?

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Originally Posted by NotJimRV

It was not.

Vote: Mutiny

Let's get some support for new leadership going then. Naturally I'll have a little bit of self-interest, but Kage appeared to me a little bit too kage-y earlier for my tastes. (One another thing that hasn't been mentioned yet was how close the vote was yesterday. As it is in politics, perhaps it should be from someone who doesn't want the bloody thing.)

Dunno who to vote for. It's hard to get a read on people when you don't know anyone :<

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Being part of a failed vig group (or a sucessful one, for that matter) is no alibi, and Visor, you should know this

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Originally Posted by autolycus

Methinks, vote:zack must be french. Footnotes are not the way of the true seafarer!

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WTF is up with this post? Your ignoring all the discussion in thread and casting a trivial vote


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Originally Posted by El Barto

An attempt not ta simply blunder oor way into a bandwaggon-lynch, landlubber-me-lad.

This appears ta be the tally o' lynch-votes.

Andres: Montmorency; Sprig
Montmorency: Andres
Zack: autolycus
autolycus: Zack

Mutiny: Zack; Visorslash; Lissa; Ishmael; Montmorency; landlubber; TheFlax; NotJimRV; Choxorn

Mutiny vote still ain't there yet. What saddens me the most be tha' there be almost nae discussion on that lynch there.

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there are 27 people on the ship. The Mutiny needs 14 votes to suceed.

It currently has 10 without my vote, and 11 with it.

Oh wow I missed a couple of mutiny votes. We're at 13/14

Wiv yours'n, it be 13. I be voting whatever Curio votes.

Something I feel has been glossed over - protecting and stealing/guarding treasure is not as definitive an alibi as killing. A vigkill details in the public update how many people in that group performed the action, so people in the group are held accountable for going through with it. Hell, in the last game at least one Spanish person in a vig group killed a teammate because they couldn't risk not going through with it.

vote: Mutiny
lynch: Andres

Not totally on board the whole being made captain thing because imma do a terrible job at coordinating any sort of network. Also I'd have to be the deciding vote in the mutiny as of right now and that's not righteous.

Spacey, Kage, why are you guys so against random vigging? Marauding bands have a small chance of killing a scum, tis true, but protection rings have an even smaller chance of picking a good target. Furthermore, the Frenchman and Maveneers have a 0% chance of killing one of their own. If we want to win the night, we have to remember any%>0% in terms of killing off our foe.

that be 14 votes for a mutiny

welp ninja'd by Tak

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Originally Posted by spaceman98

Not really. Stealing is available to everyone, and seems to be the default action of the selfish townie or scum. That, + the French didn't kill, so they were doing something else. Stealing being a possibility.

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Seems unlikely to me. Finding and recruiting potential converts and infiltrating townie groups is what the French are going to be doing at night. Stealing is a waste of time for them. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they claim to be stealing, it was a popular Spanish lie last game.

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Wait, I thought you had an allignment scan? Or does your investigation only reveal people's actions?

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I actually checked the last game and the first scan was in fact a track. Additional scans needed for more in-depth results.

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Stealling distracts from scumhunting sowes inter-town conflict. The same, incidently, is true of racketeering, which is basically what your doing with this whole "Golden Hands" thing. Ordering people to steal, and then demanding money in exchange for protection.

I've also receieved confirmation that Kage has been ordering people to steal, which has no effect, except to sow discord amongst townies and waste people's time. Basically Kage is ordering people to do anti-town things

vote: Mutiny and vote: Anders

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Despite what I said above, I agree that stealing isn't super helpful.

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Being part of a failed vig group (or a sucessful one, for that matter) is no alibi, and Visor, you should know this

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Yes it is - the update lists three people attacked x, and Visor was thrown in the brig. This confirms that the other three people did in fact try to kill x.

Why be ye mentionin' ninjas in a pirate thread, Doubloon-A?

because you're a loser

I be votin' fer you as cap'n once Kagemusha be dead, then fer a mutiny next day ta earn us some other 10 doubloons, an' yer skull cleft by me cutlass pers'nlly if possible.

Don't ye mean katana, ye fujilubber?

I'll vote Andres as well.

Tha' be IT!!! Someone hol' him afore I kill 'im!

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Originally Posted by GH

In addition, at any point in the day phase you may vote to mutiny. You may do this by adding in a Vote: Mutiny in with your normal vote. If over 50% of living players vote to mutiny, the Captain is lynched along with whoever has the most votes, and instead of proceeding to night, a new Captain selection process follows. If the vote is tied, the status quo remains.

Should you decide you don’t want to mutiny, you may simply write in Unvote: Mutiny at any time in the day phase. There are no official consequences for participating in a failed mutiny, but the Captain will almost surely remember those who were not loyal to him. A successful mutiny results in large amounts of treasure gained for all those who voted for the mutiny.

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obligatory vote: mutiny

I suppose vote: spaceman for being against semi-random vigging of inactives.

Thee beest a coward, Double A.

As yellow-livered an' white-faced as a Vatican flag ye be, Double A. Hang ye I shall, afore long.

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Originally Posted by Double A

Not totally on board the whole being made captain thing because imma do a terrible job at coordinating any sort of network. Also I'd have to be the deciding vote in the mutiny as of right now and that's not righteous.

Spacey, Kage, why are you guys so against random vigging? Marauding bands have a small chance of killing a scum, tis true, but protection rings have an even smaller chance of picking a good target. Furthermore, the Frenchman and Maveneers have a 0% chance of killing one of their own. If we want to win the night, we have to remember any%>0% in terms of killing off our foe.

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Well, protection rings can prevent the French from killing.

Also, who are the Maveneers and why do you think they exist?

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Originally Posted by Zack

Seems unlikely to me. Finding and recruiting potential converts and infiltrating townie groups is what the French are going to be doing at night. Stealing is a waste of time for them. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they claim to be stealing, it was a popular Spanish lie last game.


I actually checked the last game and the first scan was in fact a track. Additional scans needed for more in-depth results.


Despite what I said above, I agree that stealing isn't super helpful.


Yes it is - the update lists three people attacked x, and Visor was thrown in the brig. This confirms that the other three people did in fact try to kill x.

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Sure, but it says nothing about their allignment, unless we also know the allignment of x. If x is town, then it still says nothing about their allignment

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Originally Posted by spaceman98

Also, who are the Maveneers and why do you think they exist?

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They be the Frenchmen's crew fram one o' his friends' ships, called The Maven. Be savvy, wise up, read yonder OP posted by muckle Hankerchief! They be a three-man cheese-eating surrender team o' scumbags. Cat-o'-nine-tails fer them.

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Originally Posted by spaceman98

Well, protection rings can prevent the French from killing.

Also, who are the Maveneers and why do you think they exist?

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In the OP story fluff, the Frenchman hired a couple of crewmen from the Maven, the Presence's rival ship.

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Originally Posted by El Barto

Thee beest a coward, Double A.

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What pirate isn't a yellow-bellied dog at heart?

That's not rhetorical, by the way. The answer is a barnacle-scrubbing ninja such as yerself.

also spaceman confirmed for wifom
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vote: El Ninjo

An' noo ye be castin' invalid votes, ye swine! Ye should be made ta walk the plank along wiv the Cap'n an' his First Mate.

vote: Andres

Partly for the gold for voting, and partly so we can have a clean slate with regards to the previous leadership team (no offence Double A, but it seems that the captain and first mate were the most involved in directing the crew, by all accounts). This saves us from second guessing who was behind the decisions made in the three days until Kage's alignment is revealed.

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Originally Posted by El Barto

An' noo ye be castin' invalid votes, ye swine! Ye should be made ta walk the plank along wiv the Cap'n an' his First Mate.

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I don't really support either dying. I'm pretty confident Andres is town, based on his single-minded pursuit of gold. I don't know what to think of Kage, but I'd rather get over with this drama and continue on with purging the ship of our rivals. Has this sham provided anyone with a lead? I'm honestly curious to know.

If people want to elect me captain, I have to participate in the mutiny, which had already succeeded when you put your black headband in the ring. If someone jumps off the wagon, I will too. I'd rather be captain than see potentially a scum gain the position. However, if everyone would rather have notjim than me, I'd be okay with that because he seems pretty alright.

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

…partly so we can have a clean slate with regards to the previous leadership team (no offence Double A, but it seems that the captain and first mate were the most involved in directing the crew, by all accounts)…

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He were playin' video games, mate.

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Originally Posted by Double A

I don't really support either dying. I'm pretty confident Andres is town, based on his single-minded pursuit of gold. I don't know what to think of Kage, but I'd rather get over with this drama and continue on with purging the ship of our rivals. Has this sham provided anyone with a lead? I'm honestly curious to know.

If people want to elect me captain, I have to participate in the mutiny, which had already succeeded when you put your black headband in the ring. If someone jumps off the wagon, I will too. I'd rather be captain than see potentially a scum gain the position. However, if everyone would rather have notjim than me, I'd be okay with that because he seems pretty alright.

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Well, I be one who does na' want ye as captain, or on any livin' position at all.

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Originally Posted by Double A

If people want to elect me captain, I have to participate in the mutiny

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You actually don't. Only mutineers get a say in the next Captain election, but they can pick anyone - mutineer or not.

oh sweet
unmutiny

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We've already hit the cap however. So you're cheating yourself from gold at this point.