Pirate Ship Mafia III [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Who is ATGP?

Askthegaypirate?

[Visor]

Thanks for enlighteninginging... helpin me!

Visorslash you be saying DoubleA and NotJimRV be having a good alibi for last night.
DoubleA because he threw ye in the brig, information we have from you.
What be NotJimRVs alibi then?

I'll let him reveal it if he wants - but its definitely solid.

[Montmorency]

Kage has proven imprudent, his First Mate obscure. If this body is not capable of guiding the ship, I suggest new leadership is needed. I move for a vote of no confidence in Captain Kagemusha's leadership.

Vote: Mutiny

[Askthepizzaguy]

Someone's PM box is full who I have been speaking with. Clear it out you scurvy swine!

[Kagemusha]

Imprudent Kage´s obscure First Mate is living in European time zone and probably working just like imprudent Kage is, so im sure you will start hearing from him in maybe 4-6 hours. Carry on with the mutiny.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ach, ye could at least threaten to make all the mutineers walk the plank if the Mutiny fails.

Come on, throw the fear of god or worse the Kraken into em.

MOOO!!!! MOOOO!!!!!

Krakens moo, right?

[Sprig]

Ach, ye could at least threaten to make all the mutineers walk the plank if the Mutiny fails.

Come on, throw the fear of god or worse the Kraken into em.

MOOO!!!! MOOOO!!!!!

Krakens moo, right?

"Your Guess is as good as mine. Either way, I would be concerned if I heard a 'moo' while at sea. *squawk*"

[NotJimRV]

Who do you suggest if not yourself or Kage?

Double A I guess? I'm not seeing any other names being thrown up.

What be NotJimRVs alibi then?

I was part of one of the vig groups last night

[Ituralde]

Successful or not?

[johnhughthom]

Krakens moo, right?

Only when making love. How do I know, I hear you ask? Well. I used to date a pirate marine biologist, and she used to call me "the kraken". At bed time...

Err, back to current events.

I'm not really sure Kage is acting any differently to how we'd expect a captain to, did we elect a captain or a "sit in his cabin, counting his gold, polishing his wooden leg, singing "la la la la la" honorary figurehead"? Because I want a captain. Not a figure. Head.

[Kagemusha]

Ok. While we are all waiting for that damned Sea Dog Andres to show up and tell what he found out last night. I ,while completely unable of human interaction, combined with utter lack of sense and manors have something for a thought.

I was lead to understand that last night was about killing inactives. What was strange to me is that we have Ice, who was inactive the first day but was not attacked during the night, which seems rather strange. Maybe someone with brighter head then mine could explain, why is that?

[BSmith]

It appears that I have been robbed as well. I can only hope that this was not an activity sanctioned by our dear Capitan. We may be pirates, but we are supposed to be stealing gold from merchants and dirty Frenchmen, not from ourselves! When I find out who is responsible for stealing from me there will be hell to pay. Mark my words.

[Visor]

Ok. While we are all waiting for that damned Sea Dog Andres to show up and tell what he found out last night. I ,while completely unable of human interaction, combined with utter lack of sense and manors have something for a thought.

I was lead to understand that last night was about killing inactives. What was strange to me is that we have Ice, who was inactive the first day but was not attacked during the night, which seems rather strange. Maybe someone with brighter head then mine could explain, why is that?

Perhaps they didn't want to kill an old player returning so quickly?

[Kagemusha]

Nope BSmith. Was not sanctioned by me.

[Visor]

Kage, what did you do last night, and what did you tell people to do?

[Kagemusha]

I protected my treasure and i tried to set up protection groups. Ordered Andres to investigate myself and Double A and ordered Double A to blog you. Each player knows what i asked them to do. Did you try to kill someone last night and why that player?

[landlubber]

vote:mutiny.
Nothing personal, Kage. I'd just prefer a captain with whom I agree on the coordination of night actions.

[Kagemusha]

No problemo landlubber. I fully expect that the yesterdays opposition in the vote are todays mutineers. You lot seem like a well commanded bunch.

[johnhughthom]

Oi! I didn't vote for you, but don't agree with the mutiny.

[GeneralHankerchief]

ATTENTION:

I believe that now is a good time to go over the mutiny mechanics.

First of all, and most importantly, a mutiny vote is in addition to the normal lynch vote, it does not replace it. If you're against a mutiny, simply do not vote for it and carry on as usual. The onus is on the mutineers to achieve a 50% +1 majority. If that majority is attained, then we will proceed directly to a new Captain election and they will also decide the fate of the person with the most votes. If that majority is not attained, then we will simply just have the regular lynch scene as usual.

Any questions, ask in this thread or PM me.

[Zack]

I'm not really sure Kage is acting any differently to how we'd expect a captain to, did we elect a captain or a "sit in his cabin, counting his gold, polishing his wooden leg, singing "la la la la la" honorary figurehead"? Because I want a captain. Not a figure. Head.

You expect the captain to take it upon himself to actively disrupt townie group actions¹, prioritize stopping vig groups over stopping French from finding recruits², and wants townies tied up in meaningless busywork³?

It's not how I expect a captain to act.

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¹Tried to set up protection groups against rumored vig targets and had Visor thrown in the brig. This is my biggest problem, and I would not have mutinied otherwise. He has not apologized or taken any steps to rectify the fact that he directly opposed townie night actions without sufficient reasoning.

²Blocked Visor because of suspected vigilantism, not because of suspected Frenchness. More concerned with stopping nightkills (which the French are demonstrably not participating in at this point) than stopping recruitment and eliminating the French (which can be accomplished through the vig groups).

³He wanted me and others to protect his officers, who already have innate protection and were extremely unlikely to be attacked. Asked people to steal gold from specific targets. Wants people to protect vig targets, resulting in 7+ players completely wasting their time.

Other:

- Micro-managing/control freak. Giving specific orders to every player in the game, even absurdly specific (not just "steal" but "steal from this particular player"). Demands everyone account for their actions to him, despite a lack of anything clearing him, while reluctant to disclose his own actions or plans.

- Power-obsessed. The first person he threw in the brig was the most vocal opponent to both his candidacy and time in office. Wants everyone to submit to him and his authority. Unwilling to work with people and act as anything less than a tyrant. On a minor note, his officers are the two people to vote him into the captaincy, showing a preference for the spoils system over meritocracy.

- Difficult. Ignores issues and concerns people have brought up, refuses to address them and condescends.

Individually, any of these is regrettable but ultimately acceptable in a captain (with the exception of point 1 about disrupting town actions). Taken together, it's unacceptable.

[TheFlax]

I'm regretting my vote of support earlier...

Vote: Mutiny

[Zack]

Double A: Good alibi last night (even if it isn't the most helpful), been very level headed in our talks and discussion, hopefully scanned good by Andres. I've also played and hosted games with Double A as town recently and he is fitting the playstyle he has shown in those games.

Unless Andres' investigation turns up something naughty, I plan to vote Double A for the new captain. Both to show that I'm not opposed to Kagemusha because I voted for the other guy, but because of his actions taken as captain. I'm fine with Double A becoming captain and Andres becoming quartermaster, even though they're Kage's "people". The only request I make is that a new captain take on a mutineer as one of his officers, to demonstrate the same willingness to cooperate and work together.

[johnhughthom]

Double A? Pft. Just make sure to take that PirateStation 4 out of the captains cabin if you want anything to get done.

[Zack]

No response to 261? You think that is all expected of the captain?

[johnhughthom]

Having his officers protected seems fair enough, if slightly paranoid.

I don't know anything about the micro-managing control freakiness. I didn't receive any instructions, and I don't think any of the rest of my group did either, since our orders were decided early in the first day phase before Kage was elected.

Vig+Protect orders to keep people honest have been around for ages.

Someone who wanted a position of power is power obsessed? Go figure.

Kage is always difficult.

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[Montmorency]

@Kagemusha

Ice was in a protection group with me last night. I informed you of this.

[johnhughthom]

As for Visor, locking Australians in the brig is always a good policy.

[Zack]

Havimng his officers protected seems fair enough, if slightly paranoid.

It's a waste of resources that prioritizes protecting his position of power. No one was going to attack the officers, and they already have innate protection anyways.

I don't know anything about the micro-managing control freakiness. I didn't receive any instructions, and I don't think any of the rest of my group did either, since our orders were decided early in the first day phase before Kage was elected.

Anyone who didn't tell him their actions received orders to do something specific. It's not appropriate for someone uncleared to be taking such measures so early. And it's not fun.

Vig+Protect orders to keep people honest have been around for ages.

It's been used in Capo because you can still progress to more powerful roles that way, which is not the case in this game. Here it's just a waste of everyone's time.

Someone who wanted a position of power is power obsessed? Go figure.

Captaincy should be used as a tool to defeat the French, not merely as a position of power.

Kage is always difficult.

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Then why elect him?

[Kagemusha]

@Kagemusha

Ice was in a protection group with me last night. I informed you of this.

Yes. my memory is not what it used to be. Thanks for the clarification.