When he does post, he always acts in that manner though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
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When he does post, he always acts in that manner though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Well, sorry for having a bad memory. But I still think his post was scummy, being active is not his usual behaviour (hey, that's what you get if you end up WoG'ed in most games you sign up for: being threatened with a lynch when you start to participate all of the sudden :shrug:) and the blatant retaliation vote doesn't help his case either.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I'm not just going for the "easy lynch", I'm going for the guy who behaves different than usual and on top of that casted a blatant retaliation vote and made mafia-like posts.
There was only 1 night kill on N1. Sigurd asked for night PM's to be sent in late in N2. This makes me suspect that Jotun are not sending in their PM's on time. Tratorix and Motep were missing from the board at this time. They appeared right before the N2 deadlines were due. There was still only 1 kill on N2 but they could have just withheld their PM's and skipped a kill in order to look innocent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Neither Tratorix's or Motep's reactions redeemed them in my eyes. I admit the case against them is thin but in my opinion, it is the best we have at this early stage of the game.
Fair enough. I was hoping to withhold voting until we get some more information, but seeing as the deadline is almost here and PK's reasoning makes good sense:
vote:Tratorix
tratorix and motep were both of concern based upon kev's analysis. Motep's been spoken for, at least enough to break that tie in my mind.
Vote: Tratorix
Not sure if anybody else has noticed, but TinCow's immediately renunciation of the vote on Motep the moment he is targeted because of it looks fairly scummy from my perspective. His reasoning is perfectly valid, but I really don't like it.
I don't see TC acting different than normal.
But Motep is not off the hook in my mind yet. To me, he is only marginally less suspicious than Tratorix. I say we watch him close and put pressure on him during the next voting phase. We'll see if anyone keeps defending Motep.
But, lets not focus so hard that we let others slip under the radar. That was a mistake we made in Mafia VIII and Kag basically saved us at the last minute. It was also how the town lost in Midgard 1. There was so much fighting between Sasaki, Ichigo, Redleg, and Reenk, that Stig and Alexander just slipped past everyone.
No they didn't. I was suspicious of Stig for a while, almost challenged him to a Holmgang as well, the reason I let him off the hook was that he and Alexander said they were King and Champion and my investigations seemed to support that. That he was actually the king of the jotuns I didn't know, I thought of them more as three individuals rather than a king and two goons, the town group we had built seemed to agree with me on that analysis. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
Oh and Sigurd made my results on them a bit harder because he knew about our big behind the scenes town efforts and didn't want to make it too easy for us. I was mad at him then, but here I am again. :laugh4:
Back then I learned not to trust "evidence" too much, had I gone with my feelings we could've won that game.
Sorry, I only have the thread to go by and I'm not done reading it yet. (Only up to page 43. :book:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
Of course hindsight is 20/20 but it seemed that Stig and Alexander were able to get as far as they did because Loki and a few townies spent dozens of pages just arguing with each other. I've always advocated the use of discussion but most of the Midgard 1 thread is evidence that the wrong kind of "discussion" can hurt the town.
Yeah I noticed. I guess since private reveals are allowed, he wanted to weight things back in the Jotun's favor so the town didn't have it too easy.Quote:
Oh and Sigurd made my results on them a bit harder because he knew about our big behind the scenes town efforts and didn't want to make it too easy for us. I was mad at him then, but here I am again. :laugh4:
Back then I learned not to trust "evidence" too much, had I gone with my feelings we could've won that game.
My first readthrough of the last page and a half didn't reveal a whole lot either, and with CA's (aka 'Supposed-more-likely-to-be-Odin') confusing case still fresh... I Vote: Abstain for the time being, or until I find something worth pursuing before the deadline.
6 votes for: Tratorix
2 votes: Crazed Rabbit
scottishranger
1 vote: Motep
KukriKhan
Factionheir
TinCow
discovery1
GH
Kagemusha
Gaius
Privateerkev
Abstain: glyphz
At this stage in a large mafia game I doubt anyone has a clear idea who's the Joutuns... apart from the Joutuns themselves. So I abstain my vote for now.
abstaining until later in the voting period is one thing. abstaining the entire voting period of a day phase is another.
I hope we will see those abstains turn to votes before the deadline is over. :yes:
Finally got to page 53... :dizzy2:
Here is Stig's role PM (he was the Jotun King in Midgard 1.)
So, if this game is the same, then it seems that one Jotun basically sends the orders for the rest.Quote:
As long as you are two or three you will be able to attempt murdering 2 players. Once or if your numbers drop to 1 you will only be able to kill one player.
In your Pm to me you will have to name the Jotun players that will do the killings that night. If you believe you are attempting to kill a God you could write the killing as if it were one kill and name two Jotun doing the killing. You have the option of not submitting a kill or attempting only one kill with one Jotun; all a choice of strategy.
The cases against Tratorix and Motep weaken but I don't see better lynch choices right now.
I'm just going to go with my gut and Vote:PK
This might help with the death write-ups. Got this from this post in Midgard 1.
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Valkyries
The valkyries that greet the warriors of men.
I hadn’t planned to put them in to the stories, but as soon as I did I realized that it would be another unbalanced feature. But as you look closely Warluster was greeted by Hel on his death. No horses or blonds mentioned. I also had to update Dutch_guy’s death. Townies without war experience had not been proved in battle and hence did not qualify for Valhalla. War Vets and Champions had proved themselves worthy before coming to Gulating. Even if they died in their sleep they were collected by the Valkyries.
Welp, looks like I'm heading for Valhalla earlier than planned. Sorry about this townies, I shouldn't have missed that first day phase. And now, because of that, the Jotun are one step closer to their goal. My apologies. :bow:
Care to reveal then?
Sure thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
There. Of course, you might as well lynch me, since i'm dead now anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Role PM
unvote:Tratorix, vote: Motep
That was the entire PM, was it?
I didn't include the Norse(or whatever it is) writing at the top. Wasn't sure if copying and pasting it would be within the rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
It looks genuine to me, what do you need more?
Of course, getting the other 5 who voted Tratorix to unvote in the next hours is going to be hard enough...
I'm not talking about the Norse...
What were you talking about, then? Something along the lines of:
"And GH is innocent, trust me"?
Well, that's all there is to it. I don't know what your looking for, but it isn't in my pm.
If I say it, then the Jotun get an advantage farther down on the road. Right now it's something that separates all non-Jotun from Jotun.
Unvote: Andres
Vote: Tratorix
I would like you to post your entire PM, minus the Norse if you think it's breaking the rules. Otherwise, the vote stays.
Actually, wait a minute. In what position relative to the rest of the text was the Norse? Please be descriptive.
The Norse was just above the Eirik Bloodaxe, King of Jorvik bit. And this is my entire pm.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I'm not sure what you are talking about GH. Even in my PM there is no norse outside of the name my character has.
Bold? Italicized? An uploaded picture?