4 votes on taffy (arctic, visor, ladd, waza)
3 votes on arctic (ender, lissa, taffy)
2 on sundae (dya, pzelda)
Rest vanities
Arctic susses maple, lissa defends taffy
Benneh votes maple
Visor votes rask at :59 (makes wagons 3, 3, 2, 2)
Annika votes rask at :59 (makes wagons 3, 3, 3, 2)
Benneh votes rask at :59 (4,3,3)
Ender swaps to maple (4, 3 (on taffy), 2)
Lissa then votes rask (5, 3 (on taffy), 2) [/SPOILER]
Few things: it’s possible ender saw ben’s vote on maple and went there hoping it might get traction over rask since me/annika were actively saying “don’t kill arctic”
Lissa didn’t vote till arctic wagon was fully dismantled: she had already said she didn’t want to vote taffy, so she can’t tie there as maf.
I truly don’t think off votes ben/lissa are like… ever a pair tho arctic.
Rask doesn’t need to die there. Ben and lissa can both go on maple, tying wagons 3/3/3, and annika or me would viably join them to save taffy. There can be one busier but I don’t think there’s ever two. Lissa had the read justification to go on either arctic or maple. Ben can easily vote maple (annika and I might cook him if he goes arctic)
Voting an afk really isn’t enough cred to justify double stacking there
05-10-2025, 20:08
ladd
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
waza is still too on the nose on the joke about rask being outed/a wolf to be w/w with them eheh (serious read, i think they'd be more self conscious about it and not be so heavy handed at least)
visor pushing a lot unpopular angles but i think i like it? all the stuff he has said so far i find plausible/believable
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
maybe
to me, the way the she approached the start of the game was very much like brute forcing an entrance
actually reminds me of how lissa entered in the anon game where initially i thought it was wolfy (and then i got railroaded and went way off base lol)
i buy this read
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
Also, my secret scares are that waza is doing information overload or that benneh is powerwolfing. But if that's a case, i feel like he would go harder overall.
here is when artic/ender start posting. arctic gives a light w read on ender (idk their read seems fine tbh) and ender votes them
tbh i like ender post on pg.9/10
Quote:
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin
Sunbae can be my bae for now.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lissa
I almost think this is like, pockety?
like... obviously ender doesn't really have the context either. but not saying anything about it himself and just directly going to agreeing with sunbae about it kinda feels fake
Kinda dont like this lissa post..like if I squint I can see what they are saying but seems like a forced read to me
how common are millers in org game, and would i hypothetically need to be concerned about false reds in an unspecified setup
what a weird question lmao
not gonna quote but pzelda continues making extremely intricate thoughts with a touch of paranoia that i dont think a wold would be able to fake and are out of zelda wolf range from my recollection of his meta anyway
pg. 11 and still dont feel strongly about anyone being a wolf uh oh
05-10-2025, 20:09
Arctic
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic
it's pretty wolfy how you've managed to fully avoid taking a stance on me today in spite of all the discourse
anyway i think i'm probably at postcap now so that looks like it will be all folks
lissa is a wolf because she tried to wolfside at eod1 and hasn't tried to find a wolf today despite the consensus elim being maple (before the me shenanigans) and her biggest burst of solving conveniently being a bunch of nonsense preflipping me wolf
benneh is a wolf because he has taken the most wolfsided stances with handling my slot today, defending a 0 posting rask isn't really an option, i think he got the towncred there and is burning it today by trying to suggest to ignite me when i was unclaimed and now not wanting to let me live now that i have claimed. @annika i do not think it is implausible that benneh saw waza's post right before he made his and got cold feet that i was a PR and considered i was VT fps'ing and then found the inconsistency and decided to make a gotcha out of it
taffy is probably a third party because she has not attempted to solve the game today and went back to calling me an outted wolf, but with the wording of rask's role she is probably not a wolf
ladd, visor and dya are town and the wolves are going to try and push them tomorrow, don't let them plz
i forgot to mention benneh called lissa's posts today uninformed because he knows i am not a wolf and her posts were preflipping me as wolf
stett i saw your last post and i have no idea what you are talking about ngl, wolves arent going to stack on a villager to save an afk wolf especially if they are relying on rand, it's too bait lol
05-10-2025, 20:10
ladd
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
tho i wanna say lissa/ender/artic are all not w/w with each other and there shouldddd be exactly 1 wolf in there
05-10-2025, 20:17
didistetter
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic
i forgot to mention benneh called lissa's posts today uninformed because he knows i am not a wolf and her posts were preflipping me as wolf
stett i saw your last post and i have no idea what you are talking about ngl, wolves arent going to stack on a villager to save an afk wolf especially if they are relying on rand, it's too bait lol
it's more the point tehy didn't need to stack on the AFK wolf :wowee:
rask does not need to die there f both lissa and ben are wolves.
I also reread lissa and idk she just sounds villagery to me (d1, some of the processing of the claim stuff today is bleh)
i dont think ben can be w/w with annika, lissa, maple, ladd, visor, you, taffy, or dya
so like if he's wolf it's only with ender or pzelda.
Frankly a lot of pzelda's posts have thrown me off and I think he tr me far too easily for someone who's never seen me play, but everyone who knows him has called him obvitown and out of range so I'm taking that at face value because I absolutely cannot be bothered to attempt to find a scumgame to compare on this website. If ben is wolf i think he's wolf with pzelda lmao but ladd and visor have also called pzelda out of range so I'm not fussed about that world.
ik sleep is bad cause we're giving up town kp and taffy probs just dies but also idk who tf to kill lol
gotta run errands bbl
05-10-2025, 20:28
ladd
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic
i may be lacking because i want to be more of a support player and just go along with whatever people are doing, but i feel myself getting pulled back into my incessant need to take charge because i think wolves are easily in people like ladd/visor (ladd dropped a poe which, taking out the 0 posters, i think has a good chance of having 0-1 wolves) and maybe you/annika (but i kinda think you are v/v). and i'm torn on whether or not to act on those feelings because if i'm wrong i don't want to completely derail the game, but it's getting increasingly hard to just sit on my hands here
i also think annika posted a team which is 0/3 unless you're a wolf - i really don't think it's maple - so i'm not sure what to do with that. but her posts just sound honest to me. i don't really think it's her.
this post seems villagery. admittedely i have no idea how artic plays as a wolf, but i can see a villager who has a world view they came to organically in here
at the very least if they are a wolf, the other wolf prolly isnt deep and arctic needed to rock the boat (alas push me/sunbae/visor)
weirdest thing is arctic confidence in villareading maple
this is where arctic/dya/waza start pushing sunbae
then benneh and visor join in
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
Fwiw re sunbae I didn't like his post re ender in part due to the lack of full stop at the end (and the vibe of the thing)
Felt like wolf sunbae joke tone
think this is around where i started dropping my v read on visor. this read seemed ike the stretch and the full stop seemed done more to look villagery cause it's such a nitpick
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Quote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
Vote: Sunbae
:book2:
50 for me -- no idea if ill stick on sunbae but its more fun if we do a science experiment while i'm capped
town (hopefully 0 wolves)
nebjiamn
didistetter
pzelda
waza
towny feels, but could be a wolf here
Visor
dyachei
sliiight town but some concerns
Lissa - i had lissa in a higher tier but some of waza's points actually had me drop her down a bit, there was also just something about how she joined me on annika that felt weird (stett too, but i feel a lot better about stett in comparison)
Arctic - ive liked most of his recent posting even if i don't agree with all of it
null cause 0 posting
Raskolnikov
nullish cause having trouble grasping a read
ladd - would not kill
Maple
Ender - would probably not kill? enough people seem to be TRing him that it feels bad
concern pile
Sunbae
Taffy - this isn't a sheep of ladd (in a sense) -- i re-read their posting last night and decided it did fit in with what ladd and visor were describing and the only reason i tr'd her before was because of some meta assumptions that are incorrect
annika
i don't think all 3 wolves are in my bottom 6 ... probably, well, idk, maybe. i guess i mean i wouldnt be surprised if this list is way off, but this is how i'm viewing the game atm
concern pile is prolly 0/3 but i still dont really see benneh as a wolf lol maybe i am a dummie but every post from him just screams "i am a villager trying to figure out the game" to me
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
ladd, it's not the amount of solving, it's the quality of it
and tbh, sunbae, if I were a wolf I def wouldn't be voting you d1. I appreciate you too much
yeaaaa i dunno i know it's 2025 and not 2020 so i can't pretend i am a good dya reader anymore but this post is out of range for my mental image of how dya would post as a wolf
i think there is a wolf in ender/artic
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunbae
Nah it's not OMGUS. It's "I find it strange for town dya to pile on me for the high crime of not being up to date with the current MU game schedule without ever digging into my posts, talking to people about me, or trying to talk to me themselves". Additionally, I think your catch up posts about Taffy read as someone who felt they needed to talk about Taffy rather than someone who had thoughts on Taffy. Next, I thought your posts to Annika read as a wolf trying to coax a villager into adjusting reads (specifically the line about needing to move Ben up but you don't know why). Essentially, I find villager you had their own path through the game and in this game you are tentative and read like you're trying to settle in the thread.
As an aside, I feel like Arctics post about "HMMM isnt it strange how you have a visor as a concern but aren't being worried that others dont" towards me is nonsensical and is the main reason I voted Arctic first.
That's why I voted you two. I don't know what to make of Wazas post (I find it to be one of the sillier reasons I've been voted but maybe he believes it) but the fact that I voted you who people have no problems with and not Waza who people have shaded now and again should be evidence that it's not OMGUS because if it was it'd be directed at Waza. I also don't know what to make of Benneh voting me for that reason. Seems like something he'd eye roll at and not jump on.
Anyways, my current vibe has 2 wolves in <you, arctic, taffy, ender> and I'm pretty happy with it. Could I be on the wrong end? Sure! It's day 1 I ain't perfect.
Now, I really do have to split and will likely not be back. If this is it then lol,lmao, gl i guess. If not I'll see yall in a couple days
bolded seems like a good point, prolly worth keeping in mind the whole post
05-10-2025, 20:34
ladd
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by annika
personally I think he's villagery, he might get more obvious on D2 or D3 idk lol but seems fine for now
I'm acknowledging he has the type of playstyle I get pocketed by, but... he still has good posts where he's like "we should vote Taffy" at the moment when Sunbae was getting pressured and towntelling. feels like he townread her but didn't outright say it (probably because he wasnt that confident) which rings townie imo (451). like I kinda got the sense he was thinking "no I really don't think this is the right direction" when he posted that
this is such a good read. yall should learn how to read me from annika :curtain:
but really, nice read. that was exactly my mindset when i made that post
05-10-2025, 20:37
didistetter
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
@Visor bleh go ahead and track arctic pls
@Totally not Taffy idk who's good to douse but i truly truly dont think annika ever sells out a partner (afk or otherwise) to shield PR. She was scumreading arctic until eod then switched, that's not w/w for her. Please don't douse that. Selfishly a douse but not ignite on benneh might be fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine but also idk. I won't cry if you light up tonight but it would be a massive bummer to turn mountainous
Dunno lol minimum one wolf is playing rlly well. Would be swag if maple/dya could give more thots, but availability/investment can't be forced
@annika disloyal inventor is extremely possible. Do not lock clear maple for the claim. That would be like lock clearing wisdom for claiming 2-shot firefighter.
05-10-2025, 20:40
annika
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic
there are 2-3 nontown left which means even if i am a wolf there's 1-2 and you have zero suspects outside of me
does that not concern you somewhat
or perhaps i should ask you who you'd kill tomorrow
lissa only voted rask after trying to kill me first so i would give her no cred for that
I'm not killing Ben/Waza/Stett/Visor/pzelda/Taffy
Visor is the weakest of these because he doesn't explain much but it's the. vibe. I guess. and he has the Rask pelt too
I can't kill Maple either bc of her claim (i guess im just hoping that resolves overnight XD)
I'm still thinking Ladd is town
GtH between Lissa/Ladd/Ender/Dya hmm. I think Ladd/Ender are.. more townie?
I think I'll need to reread a bit. why do you have Dya locktown, is it for the post they made about Sunbae like Ladd mentioned? @Arctic
ugh that doesn't feel right tho LOL the game feels incomplete when Maple is town ??
05-10-2025, 20:51
ladd
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
i reached EoD. taffy claims
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic
There is anticlaim?? Also I have no idea where you were softing that. I'm kinda surprised you spent this time waffling finding people to call town instead of finding a wolf. If you were a PR it would be better to just push on some random person to save yourself, but this doesn't really feel like that
this is...funny given how the game turned out but also kinda nonsensical. Being a PR doesnt mean u push random people lol
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic
I don't believe taffy at all but 2 of my biggest suspects are voting her so idk
Also I am glad we are inviting the wolves to claim PR to escape the elim
idk if u are capped now but if not what did you mean with this?
stett playing EoD like a villager that doesnt have TMI, i think
i dislike ender push on lissa for having too many villareads, lacks a bit of nuance IYAM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic
I'm pretty sure taffy just made up the anticlaim thing so that she didn't have to come up with a fakeclaim
I have no reason to believe it exists
prolly a slight point in favour of arctic being a PR
reading this EoD i think sunbae got NKed tbh. He was pretty heavy handed with the PRs soft
sunbae feeling very strong on lissa v. def not going against that read for today
annika also obvious villager from this EoD
not being here for EoD didnt make me appreciate how quick the rask wagon is
4/3/3 at :59 with
rask - benneh,visor,annika,stett
arctic - ender,lissa,taffy
taffy - arctic,waza,ladd
then ender goes off wagon (weird move if wolf with rask) and lissa hammers rask
i think wolves would be cool with bussing a 0 poster but the way it happened, i think it's more likely the rask wagon was just villagers who werent satisfied with wagons after chaos from taffy claim and decided to take the easy way out last minute
if arctic is a wolf, the only options are like dya/waza/pzelda for other wolf i feel and uh i almost think waza is the most likely out of those even tho i don't really believe it
05-10-2025, 20:53
ladd
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by didistetter
@Visor bleh go ahead and track arctic pls
@Totally not Taffy idk who's good to douse but i truly truly dont think annika ever sells out a partner (afk or otherwise) to shield PR. She was scumreading arctic until eod then switched, that's not w/w for her. Please don't douse that. Selfishly a douse but not ignite on benneh might be fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine but also idk. I won't cry if you light up tonight but it would be a massive bummer to turn mountainous
Dunno lol minimum one wolf is playing rlly well. Would be swag if maple/dya could give more thots, but availability/investment can't be forced
@annika disloyal inventor is extremely possible. Do not lock clear maple for the claim. That would be like lock clearing wisdom for claiming 2-shot firefighter.
why are we tracking arctic?
and ya second to not douse annika plz
05-10-2025, 21:02
ladd
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
the most solid thing i landed on is that ender/artic has exactly 1 wolf, the other depends a lot from who of those 2 is the wolf
but regardless prolly gonna be a pain in the ass to find
bbl to make a vote but its gonna be 1 of the above i think
05-10-2025, 21:07
ladd
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
random setup spec thought - rask role being an hard counter to taffy is a bit weird cause like if taffy is the only villa kp and they are being countered this hard its kinda useless? rask role basically means that realistically no wolves would die to bombs until that role is alive
05-10-2025, 21:30
nebjiamn
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
random setup spec thought - rask role being an hard counter to taffy is a bit weird cause like if taffy is the only villa kp and they are being countered this hard its kinda useless? rask role basically means that realistically no wolves would die to bombs until that role is alive
i mentioned this and kinda why i think it outs taffy as just 3p. the role if 3p sorta serves as gated KP for wolves while also offering some EV for town in certain situations, but not to the lengths that it makes sense as a town role?
either way taffy cannot be a wolf mechanically unless this game is some level of bastard so we don't really need to worry about it for now. if we can't kill wolves before taffy's wincon kicks in then we failed in other ways
audrey got her black belt btw! proud papa.
some random musings:
idk why arctic thinks I have to think lissa looks uninformed for her overnight drunkposting only if I think he is flipping town? i truly can't make any sense of that
i think waza's reaction to arctic being 'outed wolf' overnight is near lock clearing? volunteering as the elim for his 'abhorrent wolfsiding' fhpov so arctic can be ignited just doesn't seem like how a wolf reacts to the news, whether its real or fake?
i thought of some other posts dya made earlier yesterday and i'm more conflicted on them again. the way they reaffirmed how lissa was reading ladd rang really true to me and a classic v!dya read/thought. and overall i think dya is in an odd position to be trying to push out miselims on the likes of sunbae/ladd while also being so absent all game, but without really being wolfy when they have time and are around?
some mild caveats to the above bullet point: i do think the way dya didn't talk about ladd all day 1 and entered the d2 'relieved' about his posting after he found them around eod1 is still a bit wolfy. i think the later elaboration about how ladd was missing something is more in line with how i'd expect dya to read him, but the fact that the early sod2 read seemed so fickle, i can't really scratch that itch. and its weird in a way that i feel like gives ladd/dya equity as a team more than it does for them to be v/w with him.
i know i made the point above but taffy's posts stink d2 lol. they had a post calling arctic outed wolf that just rings sorta overinflated for how they talik about arctic earlier in the post. and i don't really have any idea what other thoughts they have + their posting d1 about being more available d2 and wanting to mason with someone and it just really ending up in Taffy (15) while they should be basically 'clear' ftpov is just kinda meh
i think visor's read on the game sucks. besides maybe where he's at on dya. if he's town he's ingesting all the bullshit that doesn't matter and ignoring the things that do IMHO
yall should kill manti on day 4 when their claim still illcits nothing of value for town
i've read eod again and i legit think its just all town on rask with a minor chance of a visor or lissa bus. i agree with stett that we very likely don't live in a 2-wolves-stacked world, but there's a chance one did
i just think its way more likely between the postcap and actions around wagons that villagers were the ones causing chaos and it ended well. of the active players at eod, any number of them could have settled for v/v/v wagons and not put anything at risk. the opportunity cost just doesn't seem there to me unless a wolf was wagoned and in serious contention that wasn't rask
if ender is a wolf the opportunity cost could be there for a team like ender/lissa i suppose but i'm struggling to see if for any team besides that? idk ill ruminate more
courtesy vote count and postcap checker
:bow: Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0 :bow: Day 2 - Votes from post 671 through 1053
Yea]dya coming in today thinking i could be a wolf for not getting ther eon them quick enough (i villa read them like maybe 10 posts in) is kinda ridicolous given how they are playing
But i just struggle so much with that post @ sunbae and thinking they made it as a wolf
vote:ender
Idk i'll feel bad if arctic is a wolf who slipped but i think ejder is less villagery and i think 1 of them is always a wolf
I dont expect this vote to change anything, but sorry if wrong anyway eheh
@titally not taffy plz do not douse annika
05-10-2025, 21:47
ladd
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Also ender can be a wolf with way more people, arctic i just dunno who he could be a wolf with
05-10-2025, 21:49
Visor
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
what do you make of lissa/benneh/stett pushing so hard for arctic if you tinjk he is v?
also thoughts on lissa and maple?
05-10-2025, 21:53
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
this is such a good read. yall should learn how to read me from annika :curtain:
but really, nice read. that was exactly my mindset when i made that post
Wtf ?
05-10-2025, 21:58
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by waza
Wtf ?
Oh dang I did an emoji after the WTF but that got changed to a question mark which changes the post from a light hearted one to a sarcastic one
Yeah I’m wasting posts because I’ve mentally checked out from the game ever since the pr claims - idk why but sorting through mech always kills my wim - sorry team, I’ll probs get back into it more after some flips and after most of the pr stuff is sorted and the claims are dead (hopefully) - provided I’m still alive
05-10-2025, 21:58
ladd
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
what do you make of lissa/benneh/stett pushing so hard for arctic if you tinjk he is v?
also thoughts on lissa and maple?
Nothing much tbh? I think benneh push is genuine and again i just cant see the dude as a wolf. Same with stett
Lissa looks worse to me if arctic is a villager but i do think they are more likely v than not (partially sunbae sheep)
Maple also looks bit worse if arctic v and i feel taffy woukd need to be 3p for all 4 pr claims to be real. But honestly i am inclined to think they are real
To be clear i think there is an okay chance i am wrong on artic being v as slme of their posting todsy seemed to be trying to pocket me/making me look aligned to them but uh yolo
05-10-2025, 21:59
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
Yea]dya coming in today thinking i could be a wolf for not getting ther eon them quick enough (i villa read them like maybe 10 posts in) is kinda ridicolous given how they are playing
But i just struggle so much with that post @ sunbae and thinking they made it as a wolf
vote:ender
Idk i'll feel bad if arctic is a wolf who slipped but i think ejder is less villagery and i think 1 of them is always a wolf
I dont expect this vote to change anything, but sorry if wrong anyway eheh
@titally not taffy plz do not douse annika
Vote:ender
Sure let’s end another day voting with ladd lol
05-10-2025, 22:00
ladd
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by waza
Vote:ender
Sure let’s end another day voting with ladd lol
Whatcouldgowrong.jpg
05-10-2025, 22:02
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
Whatcouldgowrong.jpg
Given that I don’t even have a reason to scumread ender and am just pushing buttons randomly, a lot could go wrong lol
05-10-2025, 22:04
ladd
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
K i am going to sleep
Dont forget to blame waza if ender goes over and is a villager
If artic gets got and flips w should prolly track me
If artic gets got and flips v go with god
05-10-2025, 22:10
nebjiamn
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
i'd still kill arctic. i'm not really inspired by his solve on return and not just cause he is pushing me. and i think the coincidences are just too high--i think its way more likely he responded the way he did about the sunbae kills because he knew wolves killed him and was trying to catch me in a weird post to generate content that wasn't really solving. but it was such a throwaway he prob claimed even night counterpart later not even realizing what sunbae's role was in the first place lol
he could be a town for sure and i would not be mad at him if he genuinely derp'd but i just think everything makes more sense in the world he's a wolf. me bringing up wolves may not have killed sunbae should have triggered something in his brain to think for a second considering his role. instead he went to the worlds that are way less likely (a doc save + a vig shooting sunbae) and i just dont really believe his brain wouldn't stop for a second and go 'hmm?'
additionally idt you should be voting the elim based off who may or may not have equity as a partner. ender could be wolf here, especially if arcy town, but voting him cause he has more plausible partners atm seems ~wrong? (i know you are saying you have him more towny anyway but that is more of a digression by me anyway)
plus he's been exceedingly more towny in every org game when he has been town and annika is voting him (or wanting to at least) and annika goat so GG go next
post 49 for me and im takin the kiddo out to celebrate soon. ill check in at like 4:55 in case wagons become relevant in a way away from arctic or smth
glgl
05-10-2025, 22:14
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
i'd still kill arctic. i'm not really inspired by his solve on return and not just cause he is pushing me. and i think the coincidences are just too high--i think its way more likely he responded the way he did about the sunbae kills because he knew wolves killed him and was trying to catch me in a weird post to generate content that wasn't really solving. but it was such a throwaway he prob claimed even night counterpart later not even realizing what sunbae's role was in the first place lol
he could be a town for sure and i would not be mad at him if he genuinely derp'd but i just think everything makes more sense in the world he's a wolf. me bringing up wolves may not have killed sunbae should have triggered something in his brain to think for a second considering his role. instead he went to the worlds that are way less likely (a doc save + a vig shooting sunbae) and i just dont really believe his brain wouldn't stop for a second and go 'hmm?'
additionally idt you should be voting the elim based off who may or may not have equity as a partner. ender could be wolf here, especially if arcy town, but voting him cause he has more plausible partners atm seems ~wrong? (i know you are saying you have him more towny anyway but that is more of a digression by me anyway)
plus he's been exceedingly more towny in every org game when he has been town and annika is voting him (or wanting to at least) and annika goat so GG go next
post 49 for me and im takin the kiddo out to celebrate soon. ill check in at like 4:55 in case wagons become relevant in a way away from arctic or smth
glgl
This is pretty compelling though
Vote:sleep
05-10-2025, 22:15
ladd
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
vote:unvote
Fair enuf. Deep down i kinda think u are right but eh
Ill just let it happen
Adieu
05-10-2025, 22:16
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
If arcy flips town im probs gonna kill every other pr claim too tomorrow and following day until we get a red lol, and if they’re all real then welp ggs wp
05-10-2025, 22:17
ladd
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by waza
If arcy flips town im probs gonna kill every other pr claim too tomorrow and following day until we get a red lol, and if they’re all real then welp ggs wp
Good thing i am not a pr
:creep:
05-10-2025, 22:17
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
vote:unvote
Fair enuf. Deep down i kinda think u are right but eh
Ill just let it happen
Adieu
Same lmao it seems right even if I don’t want it to be the case
05-10-2025, 22:21
dyachei
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
This weekend is especially bad for me, sorry. Personal stuff that doesn't need to be in the game.
Anyway lissas read on me feels really uncharitable from her and the fact that Ben is considering it also feels bad. I'm not trying to push miselim, I'm trying to solve the game and sunbae wasn't acting like himself. Sorry not sorry there.
Idk man, I think arctic has to go even if taffy could kill him.
Vote: arctic
05-10-2025, 22:22
dyachei
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
On another vote I wish Ben would like talk to me instead of mostly about me. I'm starting to have concerns that maybe I was too quick to read Annika v and he's out of posts again to talk about it
05-10-2025, 22:23
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by didistetter
@pzelda can you describe what exactly about arctic's posting in the last 6 hours you townread? Because frankly i think his posts are pretty goddamn wolfy and he's thrashing about like a desperate animal in a trap hoping to find something for people to latch onto and push instead of himself.
The lissa and ben reads just don't feel grounded in how they've approached thread at all to me, and his focus and walling about "here's why we kill x instead of me" and then just shrugging off my question when I gave him an alternative to someone I thought did have a pluasibly wolfy reaction to his claim if he is V (you) was weak sauce.
So walk me through it, what exactly about this slush of franeticicsm can you "not help but like?" Especially considering: 983, 987, 1005, and 1007?
The problem of playing the game while also doing something else is that I tend to forget details. So, let's focus on broader stokes. The first thing I liked is that Arctic came back and started fighting. And tbh his posts are quite contentful. If mafia, he's quite confident in his skill to sway us away.
I agree that his Lissa and Ben reads are a weak salsa. I was thinking about that while writing the previous lines and I hope I'm not creating a narrative here. For w!Arctic targeting Benneh or Lissa would be an obvious strategy here. Their death would mean a removal of a strong town player. It would be a win win for an evil Arctic. They would stay alive longer, remove a threat and get another chance to thrive.
If Arctic is V, I see some logic in pushing the people who push you.
Also, the bus driver is driving like crazy, honking his way through traffic.
05-10-2025, 22:28
Totally not Taffy
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
I find the attempts to keep me alive by calling me 3p and trying to get Visor shot endearing.
Taffy (17)
05-10-2025, 22:29
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Ya my gut still tells me it’s not dya
So if Arctic flips wolf - we have a misclear
If Arctic flips town - we have more than a misclear lmao
Hoping for the latter since that sounds more fun
05-10-2025, 22:31
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
If it is the latter maple friendo you should probs start working on your next fake claim from now lols :sweatdrop:
05-10-2025, 22:31
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by annika
idk actually lmao cus visor confirmed maple's claim. unless that's like. wolf inventor. but if that actually exists and it got randed to maple im gonna CRY
i have no thoughts on lissa's posting today, i just dont think it's ben
Why is Annika in towncores again I don't like the tone here.
Also, to give this post another purpose. Let's discuss an option of Arctic not being a wolf. If Arctic's real and town, who is Mafia?
05-10-2025, 22:34
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
We should probably leash maples invention
However if you give it to me @Maple I won’t ever vote you tomorrow :2thumbsup:
05-10-2025, 22:34
dyachei
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
Why is Annika in towncores again I don't like the tone here.
Also, to give this post another purpose. Let's discuss an option of Arctic not being a wolf. If Arctic's real and town, who is Mafia?
I'm beginning to think she shouldnt be
05-10-2025, 22:39
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by didistetter
[SPOILER=Order of votes eod:]On #640 maple, arctic, sundae, annika all sitting at 2 votes, post sunbae and taffy claims
4 votes on taffy (arctic, visor, ladd, waza)
3 votes on arctic (ender, lissa, taffy)
2 on sundae (dya, pzelda)
Rest vanities
Arctic susses maple, lissa defends taffy
Benneh votes maple
Visor votes rask at :59 (makes wagons 3, 3, 2, 2)
Annika votes rask at :59 (makes wagons 3, 3, 3, 2)
Benneh votes rask at :59 (4,3,3)
Ender swaps to maple (4, 3 (on taffy), 2)
Lissa then votes rask (5, 3 (on taffy), 2) [/SPOILER]
Few things: it’s possible ender saw ben’s vote on maple and went there hoping it might get traction over rask since me/annika were actively saying “don’t kill arctic”
Lissa didn’t vote till arctic wagon was fully dismantled: she had already said she didn’t want to vote taffy, so she can’t tie there as maf.
I truly don’t think off votes ben/lissa are like… ever a pair tho arctic.
Rask doesn’t need to die there. Ben and lissa can both go on maple, tying wagons 3/3/3, and annika or me would viably join them to save taffy. There can be one busier but I don’t think there’s ever two. Lissa had the read justification to go on either arctic or maple. Ben can easily vote maple (annika and I might cook him if he goes arctic)
Voting an afk really isn’t enough cred to justify double stacking there
Thanks! This is a helpful post. I read eod but I didn't realize that Annika's vote was crucial in voting out Rask.
05-10-2025, 22:41
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
tho i wanna say lissa/ender/artic are all not w/w with each other and there shouldddd be exactly 1 wolf in there
That's a pancake hottake and I like it.
05-10-2025, 22:42
annika
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
I'm beginning to think she shouldnt be
why?
05-10-2025, 22:51
dyachei
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by annika
why?
Your posting is starting to feel less natural to me and some of the concerns you have had felt contrived
05-10-2025, 23:07
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Annika, my biggest concern about you is that you seem towny, because you might be a wolf basically townsiding. Just trying to have good reads and not being to be able to overlook the towny in posts of town players. That could have left you with very few options yesterday and could lead to dangerous bussing.
That's what's been in my head for the last two days or so. Is it legit? Dunno. Maybe you aren't a soul villa struggling to fabricate reads a scumread people as a wolf. It's just something I wanted to open.
Ladd, can I know your opinion?
05-10-2025, 23:14
Totally not Taffy
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by annika
why?
I felt your back and forth with Arctic today was a bit pointless
like you had the conversation for the sake of having it, not bc it helped either of you solve (eachother or the game)
I am, admittedly, confbiased
Taffy (18)
05-10-2025, 23:21
Maple
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by waza
We should probably leash maples invention
However if you give it to me @Maple I won’t ever vote you tomorrow :2thumbsup:
im inventing to someone who is probably v who is probably not dying
surely i dont stack with the wolves for 2 days in a row again
05-10-2025, 23:21
didistetter
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
why are we tracking arctic?
and ya second to not douse annika plz
im proposing not killing arctic, not having taffy kill arctic, and having visor track arctic so we can hard confirm him town.
if arctic IS a n2 redirect BG, then he can redirect all actions targetting visor to himself (shows as a visit to visor on a track) and we can just clear the kid instead of lunching a PR.
only problem would be if like mafia have a rb and slap it on arctic and kill visor/taffy which is possible so nvrmind lol
idk.
I kinda believe arctics posts ;-;
also like.... I'm not even really sure who could be wolf with him. he didn't need to claim pr today, and if he's a wolf claiming pr if he's like.... on a team with dya, seems useless to wolf wincon
he's clearly not with ender, taffy, or benneh
he's not with annika imo
maple had one sassy post towards him eod that felt sorta unpaired
and i dont really see how arctic PR claiming here, espec after the vanilla claim, is helpful to wincon.
IG the one point is like: he claimed PR after taffy said she had a douse on him, so could be a strat to just ensure a mislunch before taffy lights him up
but who's the other in that world?
i feel like im simultaneously overcooking and undercooking idfk
05-10-2025, 23:27
Visor
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Maybe we should kill benneh or Lissa :curtain:
05-10-2025, 23:32
dyachei
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
Maybe we should kill benneh or Lissa :curtain:
I'd prefer lissa to Ben but I still think both of them are villagers
05-10-2025, 23:36
annika
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
Annika, my biggest concern about you is that you seem towny, because you might be a wolf basically townsiding. Just trying to have good reads and not being to be able to overlook the towny in posts of town players. That could have left you with very few options yesterday and could lead to dangerous bussing.
That's what's been in my head for the last two days or so. Is it legit? Dunno. Maybe you aren't a soul villa struggling to fabricate reads a scumread people as a wolf. It's just something I wanted to open.
Ladd, can I know your opinion?
:p
if it helps, I get called unnatural a lot as town; in my last game I got miskilled D2 while hardpushing two wolves. your concern about me being a townsiding wolf is also just not the case; I almost exclusively wolfside as a wolf, and I'd never lock myself into a Rask vote as a wolf when there were other options like Ladd/Arctic/Sunbae/Taffy that people were pedalling. defending both Sunbae and Taffy and constantly talking about how the wagons are wrong is just not something I do as a wolf
if you're looking explicitly for towntells besides where I've townsided, I'd say my D1 posts on Maple are prolly townie and a wolf might not have as much conviction/pushback as I had
anyway I still think you and Taffy are both town (like Taffy doesn't even seem 3P-y to me, although admittedly idk how I'd read for 3P LMAO)
05-10-2025, 23:37
Visor
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
I'd prefer lissa to Ben but I still think both of them are villagers
Then you think it's what, maple and arctic?
05-10-2025, 23:41
Totally not Taffy
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy
Tell me more about this, because if Arctic is indeed a wolf then Annika is 90% his buddy imo
Especially with her latest posts which are great insight in how his EoD1 is wolfy after telling me SoD2 how towny he is
She's not acting as embarrassed about her wrong Arctic read as I would expect her to
Vote: Arctic
bc it's mechanically optimal to deny an outed wolf another night action especially one who's trying this hard to get it
Taffy (10)
Stett you are definitely overcooking
Taffy (19)
05-10-2025, 23:47
didistetter
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
im too much of a pussy to kill ben while he's capped on d2.
If arccy is town, taffy dies, and benneh starts pushing a annika/ladd solve tomorrow ill yeet him into the sun D3 tho :3
plausible teams fmpov:
ender + 1 of dya/ladd/waza
benneh + pzelda
arctic + ???????? ladd??? idfk
maple + ladd/lissa/dya
guh
technically i think this should make me want to vote ladd
05-10-2025, 23:51
didistetter
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
i'm not going to scream if yall kill arctic but i'm not going to vote him b/c i think he's town.
Taffy pls pls pls pls pls do not douse annika regardless of arctic's flip. If he's v she's townsiding, and if he's w i think she pushes for maple harder d1.
I'm cooking dinner for mother's day so i won't be here bulk of eod but i'll try to pop in in case i really need to voteshift.
Vote: dyachei
05-10-2025, 23:52
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by annika
:p
if it helps, I get called unnatural a lot as town; in my last game I got miskilled D2 while hardpushing two wolves. your concern about me being a townsiding wolf is also just not the case; I almost exclusively wolfside as a wolf, and I'd never lock myself into a Rask vote as a wolf when there were other options like Ladd/Arctic/Sunbae/Taffy that people were pedalling. defending both Sunbae and Taffy and constantly talking about how the wagons are wrong is just not something I do as a wolf
if you're looking explicitly for towntells besides where I've townsided, I'd say my D1 posts on Maple are prolly townie and a wolf might not have as much conviction/pushback as I had
anyway I still think you and Taffy are both town (like Taffy doesn't even seem 3P-y to me, although admittedly idk how I'd read for 3P LMAO)
So, how would you describe your wolf game?
05-10-2025, 23:56
annika
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by didistetter
I kinda believe arctics posts ;-;
lol yeah
at the very least if he's a wolf, he's done a good job making me doubt. there are a lot of little things he did that seemed town-ish like switch his vote from Ben to Lissa after our convo (where I said I was pretty sure it wasn't Ben but I was unsure on Lissa)
which is like pointless as a wolf because either way he's still dying, it just made me a hesitate a bit bc it seemed like he was still actively solving and really wanted to end on a wolf lmao
I don't. really know what to do about it tho. because I appreciate your plan to get Visor to track him but that requires the mafia to have no preventative measures. and like regardless of whether all the claims are real or not, I think wolves *prob* have something other than the bomb defuser
05-11-2025, 00:01
annika
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
So, how would you describe your wolf game?
I would describe it as like very vicious and agenda'd ig. I tend to have more scumreads as mafia lol
I used to have bad tone as a wolf too, but I've gotten better so it's about the same as when im town now
05-11-2025, 00:03
Maple
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
its a good thing i dont have a gun this game holy shit
05-11-2025, 00:05
Visor
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maple
its a good thing i dont have a gun this game holy shit
who are the wolves bronana
05-11-2025, 00:05
Maple
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
someone hold me back
05-11-2025, 00:06
Lissa
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
we are absolutely not killing ben what on earth lol
ftr the idea that i was purely/only making reads just on arctic spew last night is flat untrue, i talked a bunch about pzelda/ender totally independent of that
benneh is just town even if arctic somehow flips villager, and i find the idea of arctic actually thinking ben is a wolf pretty hard to believe, he is insanely obvious town
@ arctic re: not doing a ton earlier today, was just sort of a time/energy thing, and i didn't feel urgency yet to figure out where i wanted to go, plenty of time left in the day, pretty standard stuff. i think i was still pretty clearly thinking about the game, i also think that maple being the default elimination before claim stuff is a bit of an overstatement; that's not something i perceived to be the case to that degree, maybe i was off base. i actually think though that my mental picture of the game was pretty dang clear and it is flat out misrepresentative to say otherwise
05-11-2025, 00:10
Maple
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
who are the wolves bronana
im so tunneled on annika rn
reading arctic's posts today i can totally see him being a dumbass who doesnt actually read his role. i know gemma RCs are a bit much w/ flavour and very dif formatting to what he might be used to
doubt he's not not going over here, would rather hvae him get his action off and just ignite the dude like what possible role could he have that matters that much if the wolves have a doc i doubt they ALSO have kp so like why are we killing him rather than optimizing our KP?
i dont get that from ben, cause he talked about kp optimization but like waht could arctic possibly have thats so bad that we can clear out poe cause i HIGHLY doubt that taff gets a kill of this game *if she even is town*
honestly my take is that there's ANOTHER pr that hasnt outed yet, taff is 3p, arctic v
taff was aware of anticlaim because she's 3p, where as me arcitc sunbae arent
we got split protectives which ACTUALLY disrupt the bomb difuser and allow the 3p to get kills off (which is why i think taff's role makes more sense as 3p than not)
like benneh annika cant be the team for reasons listed unless theres bus incetivization baked into the stup which i doubt also rask would be getting subbed out so saving a 0 poster is actually pretty strong so like double bussing there sucks but grrrrrrrrrrr im so fucking tunneled on annika but the logical part of my brain is telling me it doesnt fully make sense.
so taking a step back, i think about it more. i think a team of one of them bussing + ender starts making sense, or maybe zelda because i think zelda's posts today are ALIEN and WEIRD
05-11-2025, 00:11
Maple
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
maybe this myserious 4th pr is someone getting arctic voted out idk but like logically if you excist as a 4th pr in this game, probably motion detector if i had to guess, you should realize that it logically makes more sense for taffy to be 3p than arctic to be fake? like this entire setup FEELS like its been built around the existence of the bomb arso
05-11-2025, 00:12
Maple
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
waza talking about leashing me (dont think it dont say it) is also a bit weird but idk how mechanically inclined he actually is
05-11-2025, 00:14
Lissa
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
So, let's get back to it.
First, let's talk about claims a little bit further. Taffy's almost always real. I think they got rather towny before eod too and their claim just makes sense. Now, would it make sense for them to soft if they were mafia? Mayhaps. Would a setting with two redirectors and an inventor be balanced with a mafia bomber? It sounds quite balanced to me, but mafia wouldn't need a defuser. So, they're town 9 times out of ten with a slight possibility of being a lost wolf or a 3p.
Now let's talk about the inventor. I think I would like to know details on what can the role invent outside of 1x track. Town inventor is possibly swingy tbh. Mafia inventor possibly too. It can be quite powerful if used well as it has a chance to clear others. So far it works as an investigative role. The setup with two half redirectors and a bomber against a diffuser and a inventor sounds pro-towm tbh.
Now, I think the worst thing about Arctic's claim isn't a balancing issue. But the way they hinted at being vanilla and that they actually claimed it. And if the claim is real an even night redirector would make some sense as a mafia role. For example redirecting the track or the inventor's gift. So, it's the weakest claim even without that slip.
Like Arctic is the only claim I'm willing to vote.
When I'm back I will check their actual posts.
i mean that's not what's wolfy about the claim lol
an odd night redirector literally flipped last night
i think taffy is a neutral a lot more than 1 out of 10 times tbh but it's not reaaally a productive discussion rn
Quote:
Originally Posted by annika
no? not that i rememver, at least not when youre literally top wagon 1 minute before the day ends
this post is bad because youre assuming I should have you town here when you claimed vt and misread your own role and made posts like “if I die I want to be voting Taffy” insteas of Claiming your Role
which is either bad because youre a wolf or bad because youre town and just ridiculously unaware of how bad you look
not to mention you explicitly didvnt vote rask when I asked to consolidate on him or maple
your only saving grace is that you ended on 49 instead of 50, so maybe the last post was reserved to claim, but that’s only a saving grace bc im being VERY generous with you lmao
but yeah I still think youre mafia
wait when was he top wagon?
i went and checked and he was never fully top wagon in the last few minutes of eod
i mean i pretty strongly believe that he is a wolf
but the thing about top wagon is just factually incorrect, he was tied for a VERY brief window between visor and your rask votes and iirc that window wasn't all that long? i miss second timestamps lol
05-11-2025, 00:14
Maple
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
bro everything arctic has said about me this game has been so dumb
05-11-2025, 00:15
Maple
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
vote: ladd
feels right
05-11-2025, 00:19
Lissa
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
I was re reading eod and afaict you were top wagon until :00 when rask got sniped and ender moved off you. Did you intend to claim or were u caught by surprise or wat? Feel like claiming and getting a 1-for- with taffy who u were convknced was a wolf would have been a good trafe off
Anyway ill do a re read of the game in 2-3 hours
can i just like not read am i losing my mind?
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
vote: rask
(at this Exact point arctic was in a 3 way tie)
Quote:
Originally Posted by annika
yeah. it's not Arctic though, he's not a wolf vote: Raskolnikov
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemma
:bow: Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0 :bow: Day 1 - Votes from post 1 through 665
arctic also capping about the hwole " i was saving a post to claim" shit
everyone knows if you claim in the last 2 minutes of day you get policy killed you have to claim 1-2h before EoD cmon bruh
05-11-2025, 00:22
Totally not Taffy
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maple
im so tunneled on annika rn
reading arctic's posts today i can totally see him being a dumbass who doesnt actually read his role. i know gemma RCs are a bit much w/ flavour and very dif formatting to what he might be used to
doubt he's not not going over here, would rather hvae him get his action off and just ignite the dude like what possible role could he have that matters that much if the wolves have a doc i doubt they ALSO have kp so like why are we killing him rather than optimizing our KP?
i dont get that from ben, cause he talked about kp optimization but like waht could arctic possibly have thats so bad that we can clear out poe cause i HIGHLY doubt that taff gets a kill of this game *if she even is town*
1) You could be a mafia inventor who plans on giving Arctic a vest and then he lives and you use the "Sunbae must have saved Arctic" theory to clear him
2) I could get roleblocked and then Arctic lives etc. etc.
3) Arctic could be N2 mafia kp
if everyone would please stop finding reasons not to kill Arctic I'd be able to sleep
I very desperately need sleep
Vote: Arctic
please
Taffy (20)
05-11-2025, 00:22
Lissa
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemma
:bow: Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0 :bow: Day 1 - Votes from post 1 through 656
i meant to also get these in there idk how that didn't happen
--
Quote:
Originally Posted by didistetter
becasuse as town PR he knows he's right, thread's wrong, and bad shit is happening.
Using that as a basis to solve gives you a lot of insight, but his posting doesn't at all sound to me like he's actually solving with knowledge he's town attempting to figure out who's pushing him. He made multiple posts arguing why 4 PR makes sense here b/c his role is weak, but he called manti probably fake and diff checked manti/benneh.
The solving around "benneh thought i was vanilla FPSing" and "lissa being performative" just didn't feel real at all to me. Espec with the insta pivot into "lissa uninformed" but back into lissa partnered with ben and then asking ben how lissa is ever uninformed. I've actually struggled a lot with what to make of benneh this game, and it's partially tone/style but none of this strikes me as real solving and the stuff he's vocalizing isn't any of the issue's I've had with ben. Obvi if he's PR that would mean he's probs focus on the claim stuff more, but I it doesn't sound like he's actually gone back through benneh's D1/today to reeval, just pushing what he can latch onto and sell.
He said he would quit posting because people wouldn't care because "he was a PR and biased about pushes on him" but like... most people here absolutely *would* care about that pov, espec once their worldview is shooken up.
He also called himself confirmable tho which ig is technically true, but it reqs using the track on arctic to make sure 1. he visits you, 2. you don't die. In that world we don't mislunch a pr today tho, so it's worth considering.
that doesn't actually confirm him. it just confirms he used An Action that wasn't a kill
05-11-2025, 00:23
Maple
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
sis youre an arsonist do you not ignore protection ???
05-11-2025, 00:23
annika
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lissa
wait when was he top wagon?
i went and checked and he was never fully top wagon in the last few minutes of eod
i mean i pretty strongly believe that he is a wolf
but the thing about top wagon is just factually incorrect, he was tied for a VERY brief window between visor and your rask votes and iirc that window wasn't all that long? i miss second timestamps lol
wasntit like 2/2/2/2/2 and then 3/3/3
05-11-2025, 00:26
Maple
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
njahhhhh taffy's scum tf you mean i might invent arctic a vest mfer the wolf bomb difuser died and youre an arso vests and shit dont work against ignites
05-11-2025, 00:27
Lissa
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
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Originally Posted by annika
wasntit like 2/2/2/2/2 and then 3/3/3
he might've been tied in the 2/2/2/2/2 but I don't really like. count that as being top wagon because lol, fair enough if you do I guess. it was also a bit earlier though if so, I'm not sure exactly when
then it was 3/3/3 but like
not for very long I don't think? if I remember the timing right
05-11-2025, 00:27
annika
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
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Originally Posted by Lissa
can i just like not read am i losing my mind?
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
(at this Exact point arctic was in a 3 way tie)
I'm confused about why we're talking like there was some kind of meaningfully long window where Arctic was top wagon.
ooop I must've misremembered then
05-11-2025, 00:27
Maple
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
furthermore
95% of hosts dont let vests work the same night you get them
05-11-2025, 00:29
nebjiamn
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Stett is actually be more concerned about Annika if arcy w than arcy town
yall should kill me, lol, I actually have no idea how I could be more towny than this game to a group of players that know me very well. I could apparently use the meta reset. But everyone seeks to forget that wolf teams with me on them don’t have disastrous d1s and I’m not a blatant idiot that throws away his wincon. I’d much rather take a 50/50 on rask surviving and getting someone like hally subbed in than just shrug yeet him when I could have just afk’d at eod lol
i think dya is a fine vote if you want to live in the world where you ignite arcy and follow through on the mechanics laid out earlier. But I don’t see any world where the mechanics become clearer to any of you tomorrow if arcy flips town. I’m sure visor will have some no result
on a side note visor trying to gin up enthusiasm to kill Me here rings of that one game he tried to do thag while I was afk AGAIN and he can honestly go back in the Poe pile for it.
im capped so ill vote: unvote for yall to decide but I still prefer killing arcy. Go with god, feel free to kill me even!
05-11-2025, 00:32
annika
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
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Originally Posted by nebjiamn
yall should kill me, lol, I actually have no idea how I could be more towny than this game to a group of players that know me very well. I could apparently use the meta reset. But everyone seeks to forget that wolf teams with me on them don’t have disastrous d1s and I’m not a blatant idiot that throws away his wincon. I’d much rather take a 50/50 on rask surviving and getting someone like hally subbed in than just shrug yeet him when I could have just afk’d at eod lol
I don't think it's you, I think we probably have the same mindset wrt EoD