That's not necessarily scummy behaviour. Certainly not when there are only 5 players left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
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That's not necessarily scummy behaviour. Certainly not when there are only 5 players left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
What I meant was - He is trying to establish trust with the remainder players, so they won't lynch him in the next round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
His best chance is to lynch me this round and then blame all on Psychonaut in the next round. If he had stuck to his Psychonaut vote - he would have been in a tie.
Knowing that Double A might not be around to put the deciding vote - He opted for a different solution - a tie between myself and Psychonaut. Had I not created the tie, I would have been lynched already. But he needs a culprit in the next round as well... and Psychonaut is the perfect choice.
He was neutral as far as I know and opted to work for TC. Of course there is always the possibility the protector turning evil after the death of his protégé, but that would imply a humanoid form of Pegasus that I'm not aware of. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
BTW: What is your basis for protecting Sigurd that vigorously? Is it really only based on passed gaming experiences with him? Because that is not much of case in his favor.
Unfortunately I'm not that good a mafia player. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
At that point Atheotes, YLC and CCRunner had revealed to TC. Atheotes claimed to be a vigilante with task to kill Hades and being the only one able to kill him. TC suspected YLC to be Hades. CCRunner claimed to be the vigilante riding the horse that attacked him before, he assumed TC would be protect and thus choose him as a target. TC arranged the following: Atheotes would target YLC, CCRunner would target Atheotes and YLC would target Psychonaut, as there was some question about his, because there was no kill by the guy with the shield and the sword night one when TC blocked Psychonaut. But this was due to CCRunner being on holiday during the first few turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
Looking at this setup, Psycho might indeed been unable to protect CCRunner that night.
Just a quick question to Psychonaut: What's the name of the person riding you? Surely you have been told his name in your role PM.
CCRunner was Bellerophon.
You could have fooled me...Quote:
Originally Posted by Joooray
I thought WE:D was killed by a man with a sword and shield in round 1? ...Quote:
At that point Atheotes, YLC and CCRunner had revealed to TC. Atheotes claimed to be a vigilante with task to kill Hades and being the only one able to kill him. TC suspected YLC to be Hades. CCRunner claimed to be the vigilante riding the horse that attacked him before, he assumed TC would be protect and thus choose him as a target. TC arranged the following: Atheotes would target YLC, CCRunner would target Atheotes and YLC would target Psychonaut, as there was some question about his, because there was no kill by the guy with the shield and the sword night one when TC blocked Psychonaut. But this was due to CCRunner being on holiday during the first few turn.
checking... Yes a player with a lance and a shield. Discarding the lance and opted for a sword to do the actual kill.
I don't know... You seem to have been in the loop (informed minority).
:yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Joooray
Because Psychonaut seems a better lynch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joooray
Then again, it bothers me that he doesn't seem willing to let you go while it's pretty obvious you're innocent.
If it weren't for Psychonaut ridiculous role claim, I would switch my vote to Sigurd.
Was CCRunner pro-town or a serial killer (other mafia family?)
Am I right in thinking that this round is over and we're just waiting on a 'khaan write-up?
Not being able to talk freely is killing me... this has been a good end game. :bow:
That is true, but I can only repeat what CCRunner told TC via PM. I think it was suspected, that the W_E was killed by the person that later continued killing with the help of dead players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
I'm not so sure, 'khaan has waited for a decisive vote being cast before. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
As I said, as far as I know he was a sk/neutral and opted to work with TC because he didn't want to kill innocent people. Before revealing to TC he was, as I said, gone for a few rounds and then targeted Diamondeye, as he was the second highest in the lynch vote, but the order was redirected. Then he targeted TC because he assumed he would be protected as TC revealed his role and then killed Diamondeye, again because he had the second most vote during the lynch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
I think it is a tie, so whoever breaks the tie ends the round.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
That's why I'm very interested in CCRunners' allignment.
From what I understand, Pscyhonaut was the partner of a serial killer (or part of another mafia family).
Sigurd is starting to sound scummy, but Psychonaut behaved scummy AND he has the "partner of a killer" thingy pleading against him.
I'm pretty sure it's entirely legal for you to post any PM I sent you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joooray
Alright then:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
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Originally Posted by TinCow
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Originally Posted by TinCow
I only follow the combination of gut and logic.
Yes... it could seem that Psychonaut was aiding a serial killer. Yes it appears that Joooray could have been working in a Mafia faction led by TinCow... I remember last game quite vividly.
( oh the shame :beam: ).
Worst case scenario is that Joooray and Psychonaut are on the same team and the other Mafia faction is cheering them on. Great game TinCow... you kept me on to the last as a repeat of last time.
I don't know if I should cry or laugh... :mean:
There just seriously NO way you can seriously assume THAT from the way the game went. :no:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
It rather seems to me, someone is out of arguments. :shrug:
Well... CCRunner obviously lied about not killing in the first round - and the PM came from TinCow. This does enforce this suspicion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joooray
Were you and TinCow on the same team from the onset? Like CCRunner and Psychonaut?
And which round did TinCow block me?
Why wasn't Psychonaut in your "pro-town" group?
Or maybe Psychonaut is YOUR partner, hm?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
I don't see how you could possibly maintain that Joooray has to be guilty.
I just realized that my policy of posting everything important I had in the thread was actually useful... I posted most of my conversation with CCRunner here at the very bottom. That discusses the issue about him not being the N1 spear killer. Compare the N1 kill with the other descriptions of Bellerophon... there seem to be differences which would stand up with his story. Since the search feature is disabled, I'll also say that before the forums were upgraded I checked CCRunner's posts, and he was indeed silent across the forum for a few days including the beginning rounds of this game. That fits with him being away skiing.
That would make me ... what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
The pink pony with fluffy rainbow mane and tail and stars painted on my :daisy: and would put me smack in the middle of the CCRunner - Psychonaut group?
I think not...
Actually. CCRunner was out of town. You'll notice that he didn't participate in the first round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
No CCRunner.Quote:
Tally:
Seon 6 (Yaro, Captain C, Sasaki, Chaotix, ATPG, GH)
GH 5 (YLC, Diamondeye, Winston Hughes, Scienter, Thermal)
Winston Hughes 3 (Johnhughthom, CDF, Beefy)
Tincow 3 (splitpersonality, pevergreen, A1Unit)
Diamondeye 2 (Beskar, Jooray)
Sasaki 2 (Andres, Kralizec)
Beskar 1 (Winston Hughes)
Csargo 1 (Sprig)
ATPG 1 (Seon)
Jooray 1 (Scottishranger)
YLC 1 (Tincow)
Double A 1 (Peasant Phill)
Yaro 1 (Sigurd)
Scienter 1 (CB)
Captain C 1 (Atheotes)
Split 1 (acin)
That is not evidence ... He chose not to vote that round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychonaut
Do you deny the fact that White_eyes:D was killed by someone who appeared to be CCRunner on night 1? (The sword and shield should be a clue)
I'm going to give another five hours from now to have the tie broken. I'm not going to wait forever on Double A. If the tie still stands, well, it'll be a surprise.
I bet everyone will have a chuckle at my voting pattern. :laugh4:
The lack of a horse is also a clue. The N1 spear guy isn't CCRunner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
I didn't see that post... hmmm.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
You know, I have a very hard time trusting you as you are capable of forging anything.
Last time we played Netherworld, you were the new player - and tricked both Kommodus and I in the very last round. I don't think any of us has quite recovered from that.
So it could be anyone actually...
1. No, I revealed my role to him after he revealed his inside the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
2. The night Atheotes and CCRunner died, N6 that is.
3. I was not aware of any role Psycho had before he revealed recently, neither was TC, as far as I know. He couldn't have helped anyway, since his ability was limited to CCRunner apparently.
Don't you think it strange that CCRunner never told you guys about his steed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joooray
True, but if I were him I'd also keep that a secret as it could be my last resort after all. Also, as far as I know, TC was not in contact that long, so he might have been unsure about TC. Finally he might have suspected TC of sending someone after him as he was kind of a dangerous character and kept it secret as a precaution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
As I said, I'm still not entirely sure about Psychos claim, but it all adds up for me at the moment, you on the other hand get more scummy from post to post and I'd like Andres to reconsider his vote.
Yeah sure.. I am getting scummier for gathering intel. Intel you have sat on for a long time but not shared.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joooray
TinCow's post references the name Bellerephron.
If I were to create a role and did a little research, I too could have answered your question about the name of whom I served.
The persecution rests.
Double A should end this,
OR better - let's see which surprise 'khaan has in store for us.
If both Psycho and I are lynched - that means the killer wins, right? if he is not Psycho that is.
Two reason's:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
- We felt that as TinCow was a female mythological figure, there was the off-chance that he was actually Lamia.
- My role is limited to protecting him. I have no ulterior motives.
Not necessarily. If we are both who we say we are. So there will be Andres, Joooray and Double A left. I think as Joooray is pro-town the Mafia will not have a winning ratio. And there could yet be one more day phase, depending on if the Mafia successfully kills one of them during the night. As Joooray can protect himself or the townie, it's a bit like Russian Roulette. But, that's just speculation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
Yeah sure, I go around trumping all those things to make myself a target, also the topic didn't come up so far and thus it was now the right time to reveal these informations, not before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
And it's not that you do, but the way you do it.
Well, in the thread it was speculated that the rider was Perseus. The actual name was, to my knowledge, only stated in this PM. Thus, I figure him knowing the actual role is at least some evidence to support his claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
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Originally Posted by Joooray
In that case you will have to think about why YLC targeted Scienter instead of PsychonautQuote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
i too would like to see the town since i dont like emergent mafia. :furious3:
Edit: nevermind...YLC's passive abilit of being immune to nightkill was the reason Scienter was killed. the fact that YLC redirected psychonaut's protection onto himself meant CCRunner was not protected... I am surprise why CCRunner did reveal Psychonaut to TC :book: :sweatdrop: hope i got it right this time.
Well...Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychonaut
If Joooray is who he say he is - then the killer will kill him, which leaves only two players left... Traditionally this gives the victory to the remaining mafia.
I'm willing to risk this surprise. You suspect me, and I suspect you. There's a 2/4 chance it's either one of us. 50/50 are odds I'm willing to gamble on.
If it's neither of us, Andres can reflect on a game well played.
You need to re-read that phase's discussion. Scienter died as a result of your attack on YLC. YLC did not pick who the attacks got deflected on, he only picked the person whose action would be deflected. As was clearly discussed after that phase, you attacked YLC which resulted in a deflection killing Scienter.Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
I never seen Scienter around since then. TinCow as well :cry: Curse you YLC!!!!
All 3 of them never signed up to my game. :P
yes... looks like you responded when i was editing my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Yes this should be interesting... All though lynching both of us wouldn't be much of a surprise, or letting random org decide for that matter. We expect something spectacular 'khaan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychonaut
There are too many moderators playing this game. You all look alike. :wall: :laugh4:
Yeah, those stupid mods. :no:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
But for me worst than getting confused because of the avatars is, I automatically assume you are all in cahoots with each other. :embarassed: It's at least often the first thought that comes to my mind. :idea2:
Look who's talking ~;pQuote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Ok, give me a second, just got off work. Vote is officially tied and I won't be accepting any changes from here on. I'll be announcing the tie-break here shortly. Hopefully.
Governor-General Yasei returned to his hall to find his entourage had shrunk even further. Discussion started at a murmur, but quickly turned into a raging fire. Four of the remaining five quickly turned the debate into a siege, with the deciding vote being left to Double A. Both sides desperately clamored to him that the other were the last vestiges of the great evil besetting the camp, but he seemed much more preoccupied with sleep for the time being. Even when rocks were thrown, his body merely rolled to the other side. Exasperated after an extended period, Yasei called the debate to a halt, and requested that both Sigurd and Psychonaut, the two being accused, to come before him.
"It seems we are at a stand still. None will budge, be it their opinion, or their sleep schedule." Yasei took a moment to glare daggers at Double A before continuing. "Therefore, I have devised a test for the two of you. One shall live, and the other perish." Yasei put two fingers to his mouth and let out a loud whistle. A door far to Yasei's left opened, and a soft patting could be heard. Out came, leashed by one of Yasei's personal guards, a medium sized cat. It was short haired, tan like a lion, with a long tail. However, instead of a feline jaw, a human head sat, scanning its new environment. On its back, a small pair of brilliant, multicolored wings protruded, though they looked too small to carry the creature for flight. It slunk its way next to Yasei, standing only a foot or so shorter than him.
"Gentleman, this is my pet, and companion. It is she who shall determine which of you shall be condemned. She rather likes riddles. Answer well, and all will be well. Answer unwell, and... you get the idea. The first of you to answer a riddle incorrectly will be executed. And if you both fail, on the same question, I'll simply have both your heads. Of course, I must insist that you be asked in seperate rooms to prevent cheating. Understand?" Both nodded. "Now, my dear," Yasei queried. "Which question do you wish to ask them first?
"I know no borders or boundaries. The weak despise me, while the powerful embrace me. I have felled the strongest empires without swinging a blade. What am I?"
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Great tie breaker idea! :yes:
Still think the mafia is Andres though.
Oh yeah, wouldn't want to be in their shoes now though. I suck at riddles. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
interesting... what will happen if they both send in correct or wrong answer?
The write up says they will both be killed if they are both wrong, I assume in case both are right, the both get to live. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
Ah.. but this is not fair. Giving a 12 hour limit at my night time. I might as well forfeit.
Very well, I'll extend it another 12 hours, if you would like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
edit: also, as a hint to both, don't bother trying to look up the riddle- I made this one myself.
No you never, I remember it from a film.. or was it a book? Either way, I am interested to know if it is the answer I am thinking of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yaseikhaan
Or were you just bluffing? Doh.
I think I figured out the riddle.
Sorry for not being on, I was playing Mass Effect 2. I probably would have voted Psycho though.
Alright... I have sent in my answer.
You know - this could have cost us the game.:whip: BAD BOY!!! :clown:Quote:
Sorry for not being on, I was playing Mass Effect 2. I probably would have voted Psycho though.
Alrighty, I've got the answers.
You'll know the results after class/work/class, which will take around 7 hours. :book:
Where's the :strangle 'khaan: smiley :mean:Quote:
Originally Posted by Yaseikhaan
Hey, good news, my ethics prof canceled class for weather/health/laziness related reasons, so y'all will get the results in around 5 instead. :book:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Real men skip all classes and still obtain that master degree :snobby:Quote:
Originally Posted by Yaseikhaan
This post is 1337.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yaseikhaan
Apologies. I am as excited as you others :yes:
Aww, you knew I was going for a masters degree? :blush:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Ok, done with earning my meager paycheck, starting the writeup.
Yasei returned roughly an hour later to the main hall, with Psychonaut, Sigurd, and his pet in tow. Both were very quiet as they were led. Yasei climbed atop the stone dais in the hall, with his sphinx soon following. The two stood for a few seconds, staring down on the other two, before Yasei addressed them. "Sigurd, Psychonaut... you both gave an answer to my pet's riddle. You gave different responses..."
"Psychonaut, in response to her riddle, you answered Decadence. My dear, is that the answer you sought?" The sphinx, laying at Yasei's feet now, slowly shook her head. Psychonaut's face drained in color- he knew what would soon follow. Two guards were immediately at his side. One kicked him in the back of his knee, forcing him to the ground in a kneeling position. The two held him down for the time being.
"Sigurd, in response to her riddle, you answered Fear. My dear, is that the answer you sought?" Once again, the sphinx shook her head. Two guards rushed to Sigurd's side, who, predicting a similar event as Psychonaut's, immediately knelt to the ground. "My dear, would you care to divulge the answer to your riddle?" The sphinx clambered to its feet, tilting its head for a moment.
"I suppose no harm could come at this time. '
'I know no borders or boundaries. The weak despise me, while the powerful embrace me. I have felled the strongest empires without swinging a blade. What am I?'
I am corruption. No being is immune to me. The interests of the self always end up outweighing the interests of all else. All men, all gods, all demons, are subject to me. The weak despise me, because they lack the power to protect against the corruption of the powerful. None can truly withstand power's corrupting influence, only resist it to varying degrees. Thus, the powerful inevitably accept my embrace, and the weak suffer what they must. Until the time comes when I have sapped the very life from the powerful, and their influence collapses amidst a ruin of chaos. It was the corruption of kamikhaan that brought him to attack the world of humans. And thus I brought an end to his empire, to be replaced by another.
Psychonaut and Sigurd remained silent after the sphinx finished. "It seems you were both just a bit off," Yasei remarked. "Nonetheless, she has rejected both your answers. And so the both of you shall meet your fate." He nodded to the guards pinning Psychonaut to the ground, then leaped from the dais. Sword in both hands, his feet firmly planted, he brought a swift, overhand blow to sever Psychonaut's head in one, clean blow. He turned around to face Sigurd, who still was knelt before him. He arced the sword for one more blow. It carved down through Sigurd's skull, splitting it down to the neck before halting. With a sigh, Yasei turned to the remaining camp.
"Is that all? Is that the extent of what you can do to me? Do you really think you can vanquish me with a single strike?" Yasei spun around on the spot. Sigurd's head, still halved, was beginning to sew itself together. "Even if you destroy this form, you cannot destroy me!" Sigurd's bloody face grinned maniacally, sharp teeth glinting under the coat of red. Yasei immediately brought the sword down once more, slicing Sigurd from left shoulder to right thigh. The body began sliding apart, but gripped together once more. "YOU'RE PATHETIC. YOU FOOLS WILL DESTROY ALL THAT EXISTS IN THIS PETTY GAME!" Sigurd boomed. "YOU AND THE NETHERWORLD, YOU THREATEN EVERYTHING WITH PETTY SQUABBLES. KNEEL BEFORE ME, AND THE PLANES OF EXISTENCE WILL FINALLY HAVE PEACE. THERE SHALL BE ONE TO RULE ALL, AND IT SHALL BE ME!"
A pair of wings sprouted from Sigurd's back, his skin turned blacker than a starless night, his eyes shimmering ruby red. Yasei thrust the blade into Sigurd's chest, just left of center. Yasei's hand glowed blue once more, and the flames from his palms traveled the blade into Sigurd's chest. They snaked into wounds and spread across his body like it was grass. Sigurd howled in pain. A light began to emit from his body, a crimson red. It shattered through skin in a brilliant show. The body crackled and collapsed. Sigurd had enough awareness left to examine his left hand as it vaporized into the crimson light.
Sigurd looked back to Yasei. "Not as weak as we look, are we?" he scowled. "But.... if you think you are finished with me for good, you are sadly mistaken. The scowl vanished under a grin once more. "Because... MY POWER GOES ON!" With his last proclamation, Sigurd's physical from completely withered into pure light. A brilliant, blinding flash stunned the room. When it had passed, the light was gone....
Alive: 3
Andres
Double A
Joooray
Slain: 22
A Very Super Market (N1)
Khazaar (N1)
White_eyes:D (N1)
Captain C (N2)
splitpersonality (N2)
slashandburn (N2)
Captain Blackadder (N3)
Peasant Phill (N3)
Yaropolk (N3)
Csargo (N3)
Beefy187 (N4)
Diamondeye (N5)
Cultured Drizzt fan (N5)
Sprig (N5)
Scienter (N6)
CCRunner (N6)
atheotes (N6)
TinCow (D7)
woad&fangs (N7)
Thermal Mercury (N8)
Kralizec (N9)
pevergreen (N10)
Lynched: 12
Seon (D1)
Askthepizzaguy (D2)
GeneralHankerchief (D3)
Sasaki Kojiro (D4)
Chaotix (D5)
Winston Hughes (D6)
YLC (D7)
Beskar (D8)
A1_Unit (D9)
johnhughthom (D10)
Psychonaut (D11)
Sigurd (D11)
Wrath of Khaan: 3
Centurion1 (D6)
A completely inoffensive name (D7)
scottishranger (D9)
I told you Sigurd was acting scummy. :no: I saw right through it.
Well... I knew you were scum since night 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Thanks for validating my "That is the Mafia's investigation list". :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
Joooray was right and I was wrong.
Shouldn't the game end now, btw?
Oh yes.. it was genuine though. YLC was not supposed to put it out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
I was destroyed by a kid opting to play Mass Effect 2 instead of spending a few minutes putting in a vote. He even admitted he would have voted Psychonaut. :wall:
Good game all - it is always fun to manipulate... I hope I could have gotten Joooray lynched next round.
I wish he didn't either, as you would have gotten lynched and I would be alive instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
The reason the game hasn't ended, is because not even who needs to be dead, is dead. As it is 3 people, it will a toss-up between the doctor Joooray, the townie Double A, and the Mafia Andres.
I've been saying it for 8 rounds now...
If andres is mafia, then jooray needs to flip a coin. Heads he protects double A, tails he protects himself. That gives him a 50% chance to block andres's kill. No way double a is mafia, missing the vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Or the game could be over and we just don't know it.
It's been very tough for me not to say anything. Very frustrating to watch you try and try and get ignored.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
PS- Sigurd, you played an excellent game. I was watching with great interest.
One down, one to go? I'm very confused if that was it or are we actually really looking for another alive mafia? The last paragraph could after all also hint at another instalment of the setting. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Yaseikhaan
Anyway, I'm happy I was right about Sigurd. :grin:
Gah! So close on the riddle. I was thinking along those lines, but I couldn't think what exactly 'khaan was looking for.
Well played Sigurd, like I said, agreeable, yet with enough initiative to not tweak too much of the spotlight.
:2thumbsup:
I knew Andres was mafia...
Uh anyway... this is my second last post tonight. Hope I don't die, this would mark the first game where I won and didn't actually do anything.
I didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
Why were you bulldogging the results from a mafia to protect Sigurd (a mafia) who also kept defending you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Why does it matter? The game is over one way or another. If the last mafioso died in the lynching, the game is over. If there is still a mafioso alive, he will kill tonight, which will result in 1 townie and 1 mafioso alive tomorrow, which is a mafia victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Nono!Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
I already said this. Joooray can self protect, so he should flip a coin. Heads he protects himself, tails he protects double A. This gives us a 50% chance if andres is mafia.
Apparently, some still think I'm scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Maybe evil 'khaan is teasing us and wants to see how two townies lynch another townie in an unneeded day phase, just for giggles.
I think that will happen, but khaan will stop it in his character, to make him look more impressive.