Tarot Mafia

what's the vc rn?

@Gemma what about my play today reads as powerwolfy to you?

i'd like you to unpack that and explain it out a bit pls, cause it kinda feels like a random pot shot, so im curious what the thoughts are behind it

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Vote: Dolby :pop2:

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@Sunbae so unfortunatley the tldr of why i tr grr is: meta. i've played with him a fair amount and he's pretty stilted and frozen as a wolf. the stream of consciousness and overexplaining and relative highposting here is all pretty far out of his scumrange, and there's a tonal purity he just really hasnt been able to replicate well as scum before.

I can pull up posts and walk through them if you need me to, but, everyone who is familiar with grr is towncoring him, so, that's p significant here

(also this post at eod just felt very loltown) #1205

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Originally Posted by didistetter

mmmmmm

why do you consider saying a wagon looks good but avoiding it unpartnered? felt like avoiding the wagon while trying to distance to me.

i actually really hated the unvote, its something ive seen a *lot* from maf recently with contentious wagons. they dont want to join the wagon on partner b/c their previous approach to the slot doesn't justify it, and it would risk getting called out as a busvote, so they unvote the cw as light distancing.

i think insomn voting and making it 3/3/3 would def be easy to anticipate from wolves that it put syn at major risk, b/c knights and rask (if town) could self pres there, and i/dya had previously indicated interest in the wagon, so it could easily build, which it did. both knights and i almost instantly voted syn after insomn made it a viable option.

i don't really buy either of these as pros for mont

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Hmm, I'm with ender on this one. Like here you're saying it was easy to anticipate the Syn wagon popping up in real time (bleh, missing eods is hard cause you dont get the actual feels of what was going on) but even still monts actions are not really doing anything against it right? Like, he's not ignoring it and hoping it doesn't happen because he talks about it, he's not dissuading from the wagon because he's calling it the pure, if he's anticipating it like you said he's not getting on early for credit nor staying off other wagons entirely, I just don't see an agenda here and think it makes more sense as villager uninformed eod posting

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Originally Posted by didistetter

@Gemma what about my play today reads as powerwolfy to you?

i'd like you to unpack that and explain it out a bit pls, cause it kinda feels like a random pot shot, so im curious what the thoughts are behind it

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Vote: Dolby :pop2:

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@Sunbae so unfortunatley the tldr of why i tr grr is: meta. i've played with him a fair amount and he's pretty stilted and frozen as a wolf. the stream of consciousness and overexplaining and relative highposting here is all pretty far out of his scumrange, and there's a tonal purity he just really hasnt been able to replicate well as scum before.

I can pull up posts and walk through them if you need me to, but, everyone who is familiar with grr is towncoring him, so, that's p significant here

(also this post at eod just felt very loltown) #1205

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hey meta is good no need for unfortunate. makes it harder to explain but im cool with rolling with it

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

what's the vc rn?

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Maple (2) Ladd, Dolby
Nebjiamn (2) Gemma, Wisdom
Enderwiggin (1) Nebjiamn
Jan (1) Theknightsofneeee
Raskolnikov (1) Enderwiggin
Sunbae (1) Grr
Dolby (1) Didistetter
Not voting (10) Insomnia, Arctic, Maple, Jan, dyachei, ColonelLubriderm, Raskolnikov, Vanta Black, Sunbae, Montmorency

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

Hmm, I'm with ender on this one. Like here you're saying it was easy to anticipate the Syn wagon popping up in real time (bleh, missing eods is hard cause you dont get the actual feels of what was going on) but even still monts actions are not really doing anything against it right? Like, he's not ignoring it and hoping it doesn't happen because he talks about it, he's not dissuading from the wagon because he's calling it the pure, if he's anticipating it like you said he's not getting on early for credit nor staying off other wagons entirely, I just don't see an agenda here and think it makes more sense as villager uninformed eod posting

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but that's exactly what he did tho

he unvoted rask as syn wagon was regaining traction, and then stayed unvoted.

Mont's entire VH from D1:

Montmorency votes Raskolnikov p#1170 ?4
Montmorency unvotes Raskolnikov p#1187 ?3

thats it.

he made rask top wagon, and then when people took issue with it and pushed elsewhere, he just hopped off and didn't push anything

i truly dont see how that reads as uninformed villy

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Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee

Man sometimes I swear everyone just pretends they know how to play this game and is really just throwing darts at a dartboard for their reads.


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I mean, yeah! thats 100% what i do lmao

wats the good word friends

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Originally Posted by didistetter

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but that's exactly what he did tho

he unvoted rask as syn wagon was regaining traction, and then stayed unvoted.

Mont's entire VH from D1:

Montmorency votes Raskolnikov p#1170 ?4
Montmorency unvotes Raskolnikov p#1187 ?3

thats it.

he made rask top wagon, and then when people took issue with it and pushed elsewhere, he just hopped off and didn't push anything

i truly dont see how that reads as uninformed villy

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Let me try rephrase cause I think that didn't get explained properly:
I interpreted your post as saying it was easy to anticipate that the Syn wagon was going to happen so we should not give any credit for the syn wagon is pure post Mont made. I was saying if Mont was anticipating that it was going to happen like you suggested he didn't really do anything to get credit for it by getting on early and didn't just avoid other wagons entirely. He hopped on Rask and then hopped off. I just don't think you can dismiss positive points (basically calling the Syn wagon best) because you think it was easy to anticipate while also not pointing out that if he DID anticipate it then he didn't really do anything about it you know? Is this one of those things that makes sense in my head and not in text? I feel like it might be

Kinda vibing with Jans judgement post hmmm

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Originally Posted by Syn

looks at my poe

looks at this post

looks at my poe

looks at this post

surely it cannot be

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Think I already commented on this in my Syn ISO post but I just think this post isn't partnered with Wisdom

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

@Wisdom: re Syn. It's just he seems more prone to directly attack people here (ColonelLub, Jan) in his very special way (look the last one lol "looks at my poe

looks at this post

looks at my poe

looks at this post

surely it cannot be ") here, which I associate with his town game.

I feel it's different from last game where he was a woof (it's not impossible he tasked himself with changing his meta but I vibebe with it aorn).

Ladd posted something I missed though ("everyone currently passing the vibe check I think we should vote sleep

not to be confused with sheep") which is a bit odd like. would be very sadge if Syn is wolfing with sheep but lol. Just something to keep in mind for when one of them flips.

Gonna read the knightofneee (I didn't vibe with you TRing Benneh out of vibes pal :curtain:)

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Feeling more confident that Rask is town, when I read Syn's ISO I felt that the way he was going after Rask felt like he wasn't in a wolf

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Originally Posted by grr

oh one more thing. this was a silly read ofc but when i wrote that i meant id absolutely vote him for that as i did register it out of character and considering not much struck me as sus so far and i'd rather not be construed as meaningless w/w jab later on if ladd flips wolf. enjoy the game until I'm back.

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I have other reasons to townread grr but those reasons are just "I read their posts, I think it's a villager". I think this take is lol but I kinda am amused by it

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

fwiw it's either self rambling, or wolfy (like trying to engage with Jan's list without actually speaking about its content, or straight up shading dya/Sunbae)

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yeah rask is town

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Originally Posted by Maple

I'm sure it goes without saying, and it *does* go without saying, the concept of the Goldilocks mafia zone should be something that everyone in this lobby grasps. Like, it *literally* goes without saying. There were 2 reads lists which could have been responded to, syn and jan. There were no questions to insom.

Rereading grr's posts for the fifth time, I still don't get it or like it, so she's probably just a wolf.

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so this is one of Maple's first reads. I just don't like it, I feel that grr has had micro towny moments already. I feel like grr looks like a pushable person to a wolf despite that

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Originally Posted by insomnia

so the early solving on my end was 80% for appearing villagery so i feel like clarifying where im at

the serious reads remain: stett / grr probably ~lock villas. easy reads for anyone to have in top tier imo

off the lower impact (thus far) players, gemma struck me as off in terms of sheer villageriness, i feel like the times i've seen them play they manage to shine through with pure solving process. however, i like their laidback attitude and solo thing they're doing as slightly villagery enough to the point i would probably not wanna kill them today, unless i re-read and i see a howler. i dont remember much

i did feel like arctic making that post was very villagery for ~anyone that would make it, but i guess he's not gone hard enough at anything yet to be confident. not gonna question it for now. and to respond to ih, my read was purely off that post and i don't know his wolfgame and not sure i care to know about it either. there's nobody that can't be caught and im basically in constant re-eval mode

my spicy take that im admittedly stubborn about rn is that newcomb / ladd has a wolf, but i'll see how i feel about it by EoD. it's def not as strong as the other tinfoils i have in normals

anything else im gonna work on in the latter part of the phase, the content thus far didn't do much for me

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except for the Arctic take I love this post a lot, particularly calling grr a lock villa. I think that it isn't hard to do that but I think wolves aren't inclined to do that

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

Why should you have a read on me? I've made like two content posts and have been shitposting mostly

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maybe slightly towny reaction to Syn's read list but I might be reaching with this

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

I might not have played a ton of games recently but I have railed some from the shadows and like, idk, I feel like people expect <thing> out of dya that dya just doesn't ever really actually do and then when they don't see <thing> they just shadeshadeshade and then dya gets on the defensive a bit and then because dya has been shaded when they start dropping reads people just throw their hands up a bit and go "oh shucks im not sure what to make out of all this ill just focus elsewhere for a bit" and then they and their reads just kinda sit in their own untouched universe for a couple game days

and like, idk, i read dyas posts and they seem like an obvious villager and id like to try to prevent that from happening here?

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I like this a lot actually since I think that Dya was up to this point a bit above null and yeah idk I just like it

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Originally Posted by grr

The interesting part is that maple has called me a wolf in the last 3 v/v games we played and or something and at some point doing literally 0 course correction starts feeling in bad faith. Like normally you'd think a person would go like "ok i misread that person every game maybe ill just kinda not try this time" but this guy really keeps doing it forever it seems.

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Originally Posted by grr

and he was also my wolfbuddy in my last wolfgame where basically half the thread called me outed page 1. so maple is very well aware its not that hard.

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This is so town. I think that this is not the angle a wolf chooses to go here since it risks just burning some people to them

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

fry.gif in enders general directi

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I think this but also imma be real this is 100% bc I vibe with the read

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

fwiw im pretty sure maple is a villager too? this is the type of latch on i always find v towny

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NOOOOOOOOOO you were doing so good

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Originally Posted by Arctic

i don't think it's correct to townread me for the reason of being convoluted but i probably wouldn't have made a post with that flavor of convolution as a wolf
so i dunno. i don't agree with the reason but he's kinda right

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I dislike this bc if there's bad reasons, even if he is right, that's kinda just more likely to be a wolf faking a read imo

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

I want to yeet outside of:

1. dyachei
2. Arctic
3. Didistetter
5. nebjiamn
6. Sunbae
7. Raskolnikov
9. Jan
15. Syn
17. Newcomb
18. Maple
21. C0balt

maybe ladd too

if you ask me for raisins and want more than "i feel it in my berrens" then dont ask

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want to question why a third of these are here but w/e I'll do it later

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Originally Posted by Arctic

is he?

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Arctic I feel like you aren't Abominating this game :(. Like IH just feels v and I feel like it should be kinda recognizable? I am also not getting the abomination solving vibes from you

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Originally Posted by Arctic

what posts make them seem like an obvious villager then

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ok actually my problem with these is different and we will see if it stays like that, but Arctic isn't putting anything out in this section of posts, he's just asking for more elaboration of TRs, which, fair, but I also think just isn't the best look

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Originally Posted by Arctic

i strongly disagree
i think he is making a big deal over something that amounts to basically nothing
IH also made a decent point that he constantly misreads him but hasn't tried to course correct here, and also saw his wolfgame where he got outted immediately and doesn't seem to factor that in at all

on the whole i also just think maple's focus has been not good. i think it's easy for a wolf to focus on real time and point out logical inconsistencies but i don't really feel like maple is trying to solve the game or forming a worldview, just kinda nitpicking at random stuff (they were doing this earlier about something else and complaining about the wallposts)

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Ok nvm I love this post, this basically summerizes the entirity of my thoughts on Maple v grr, and correctly calls out why Maple's posts just don't feel good at this point in the game.This is the right read for the right reasons at this point in the thread (even if I'm not sure if Arctic has read up to Maple somewhat backing off the right at this point)

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Originally Posted by Arctic

main things that stood out to me on catchup

- dya's point about ladd being town for.. pushing knights as hard as he was seems a little fake to me esp cuz he wasn't even going that hard lol. if anything the read that he wouldn't be going "this hard" as a wolf feels more likely to come from TMI on knights being town and the knowledge that it'd be a bad look, esp considering dya doesn't seem to even townread knights

- benneh's read on IH being a free villa find also seemed kinda fishy given what IH had actually posted at the time, and i don't really buy his explanation in #345 either. IH has a particular style of posting and tends to polarize himself early on and wolves are pretty prone to TMI'ing him because he makes a lot of introspective/tonally towny posts that wolves think are more villagery than villagers (who don't know his alignment) do. and like, i think there's a chance that's what happened here from benneh cuz he just.. wasn't villagery at least at the time of those posts. and IH isn't really a strategic wolf imo so i just disagree on the reasoning given and thats why i cant really buy the explanation

- that said i do think IH is town now (based on posts after this point, tbc) - mainly cuz i believe him being happy over this game (and he probably wouldn't be had he randed wolf in a super strong PL) and the explanation of sheeps/knight stuff. also unironically he probably would have just left the thread by now as wolf. he said he was gonna go a while ago but stayed which is towny by default but esp for people who don't like wolfing

- syn has now done some things differently to their last wolf game like posting a full read list and pushing on.. more than one person. but frankly this doesn't really seem like a great reason to townread someone because it's a pretty low bar, and i don't know if other non-alignment things were affecting last game's posting to cause a false-positive there and potentially a false-negative here. but still feels worth pointing out. the read list itself feels kind of insane. maybe too insane for a wolf. dunno. rask seems to agree and he caught syn last game, don't really have a read on rask rn either but how early the read came makes me feel like even if rask is a wolf it's more likely to be TMI on a villager rather than on a partner, so i'm fine sheeping it either way lol

- gemma is in a weird spot for me because somehow her posts feel more useless than the wolfgame she had where she at least attempted to make/explain reads to look towny. i'm not sure how to feel about this - did they just rand wolf again and don't give a fuck? or are they also just like this as town. will probably help if someone with more experience weighs in here

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eh, i vaguely don't think wolf!dya pushes on benneh regardless of benneh's alignment. also think the reasoning "expected him to be more excited about playing a long game with sunbae" seems quirky enough to be a town thought
not confident here but my understanding of the dynamic between those two is that they'd always just pocket each other as wolf at least from seeing turbos lol. not sure benneh has enough pressure here to justify wolf!dya losing the chance to establish a rapport with benneh. my earlier gripe still stands but i think this is probably more significant - i remember wrongly scumreadnig dya for making an early overly generous townread last game so shrug

someone reminded me about the manti 6 word thing and i'll cede that it felt villagery at the time, but i still want to see some kind of worldview from them

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hmmm, disagree with WHY he's townreading IH though I also gotta to admit that I'm townreading IH for reasons that may be connected to that and maybe IH is posting more because he is not wolf (simply speaking, I believe that IH believes what he's posting, he is putting off a vibe that he is trying to solve in his own way). Not gonna comment on the Benneh and Dya stuff bc I am not backreading or anything that isn't on the same page, quoted, or directly connected to Syn.

If the parts about Rask didn't exist in the section about his Syn read I'd be townreading it because it correctly calls out Syn's reads list as frankly insane and says that the townreads on Syn are weak... but sheeps Rask anyway. I don't think it's the worst, I think the read is mildly towny, but in either direction it gives Arctic wiggle room which detracts from how I feel about him. I do think at this moment that he is more likely town though

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Originally Posted by Maple

I'm gonna be real, I have more PR reads than alignment reads.

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maybe towny bc this is such an insane thing to say

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Originally Posted by Arctic

ngl these are like my only townreads and there aren't enough to the point where i can feel good about posting a poe/wolf list so im just not gonna bother lol

grr
didistetter
insomnia
colonel
ladd
syn

also i looked at montmorency's post in the signup thread and it wasn't an explicit /in so he might not even know he's in the game. lol. lmao

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god I think that outside Syn this list is pure even though I don't really have a ladd take but I hate that he correctly calls out why Syn shouldn't be townread, then just sheeps Rask anyway

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Originally Posted by dyachei

V
Didistetter
ladd

V lean
Sunbae
rask
Jan
ColonelLubriderm
maple

Null
Arctic - he sucks at reading me I suck at reading him
Vanta Black
nebjiamn
Gemma but theres a part of me that wants to slot her in as town
grr
insomnia
Wisdom
Syn
Newcomb
Montmorency
cobalt

w lean
EnderWiggin - this guy is always a wolf to me
knights
sheep

w


go crazy friendos

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there are things I like and dislike about this list, mostly like

I think that townreading Rask while not caring about his Syn "godread", especially if Rask is town, is somethign that wolves are going to avoid doing, I think the only thing I really dislike is Maple up which I don't really see, and Ender/Knights in the same tier. I would like more elaboration from Dya on why Ender is always a wolf to them and I'm gonna be keeping an eye on that since, I do sus Ender to but I don't think that that has been reflected much in their previous posts

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Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee

Okay so I looked at dya’s ISO (some may be out of order because the iso’ing here is old school idk)

Prior to me calling out dya for not having reads she had given 3 reads, didistetter = v, Jan = v (which I disagreed with) and Ladd = v (also disagreed with at the time, maybe less so now)

So I think it was super fair for me to say you had been low content up to that point.

I do think you’ve done much more since and I align with most of dya’s reads atm except the Jan v read.

But I think the fact that you were so aghast at me wolf reading you feels a bit naïve/silly.

I do like how dya is pushing insomnia, I think that’s the most villagers thing she’s done by far, and she has been active/solved enough now that I can accept I was probably wrong and move on.













(I was going to spoil the quotes but there isn’t an option on quick reply for a spoiler and I don’t want to lose this so sorry)

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think this post in general is towny and the two bolded lines are less likely to come from a wolf

I gotta leave now, full solve to come later

Stett, this parts harder for me so can you help?

If the syn wagon was pretty easy to anticipate, do you think any of the voters (especially early ones) were busses?

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

Kinda vibing with Jans judgement post hmmm

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I mean yes, but an ez post for a wolf smh

@Wisdom

why did you have syn as a lower tier villa yesterday?

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Originally Posted by insomnia

can you explain why you wanted to kill jan?

i've said i had the same take, but thinking about it i thought it's pretty clear that a wolf would not aim for that type of chaining thing because all it takes is syn to flip and he's pretty much outed. is jan the type of wolf to just open wolf like that on d1 because he hates losing team mates?

i wish he didn't write all those things out because now he looks ten times worse. and i do think syn might've legit been KP which is why im rolling around with gemma / knights villa rn even though the game would be a bit odd for me if there's not a wolf there atm. but i still haven't re-read

judgement makes sense for wolf KP and last night they didn't show it, although i guess they don't need to have a full vig. i just dont know if visor is the type to associate flavor with roles

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Im gonna push back on this.

Syn did flip and Jan did do the chain and Jan is clearly not outed. So I don't think I agree with your premise here.

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

I mean yes, but an ez post for a wolf smh

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this is bullshit.

wolves don't shower.

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Originally Posted by Jan

this is bullshit.

wolves don't shower.

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its true, they dont have opposable thumbs and cant turn the shower on

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Originally Posted by Jan

this is bullshit.

wolves don't shower.

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Maybe Jan, but "wolves dont" is a tale as old as me. U know it. (Believe me I will read u in good faith despite my current stance)

ender, if i said "but i didnt even vote you" was a shitpost with a tinge of truth (aka, trying to be funny and silly in the way i said "idk why youre so focused on me about it i just made a read and moved on i wasnt pushing") that apparently didnt land well would that feel less weird for you

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Maybe Jan, but "wolves dont" is a tale as old as me. U know it. (Believe me I will read u in good faith despite my current stance)

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Odd response.

Good faith as a response to a funny bit feels off.

i hope the wolves arent something like benneh/maple/wisdom cause id be playing very bad if it was

Pls to have confirmed that posting a readlist is a waste of time.

I like how IH is shrugging at me and my reads. True story

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Pls to have confirmed that posting a readlist is a waste of time.

I like how IH is shrugging at me and my reads. True story

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i read your reads list! and i specifically pointed out the ladd point has gotten into my brain a bit as I reread!

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Originally Posted by Jan

Odd response.

Good faith as a response to a funny bit feels off.

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Maybe i did not get the funny bit. Just noticed the bs part

"maybe towny cause this is an insane thing to say" got a real life belly laugh from me

love manti posts

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Maybe i did not get the funny bit. Just noticed the bs part

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6 words and you stopped reading halfway through. equally flabbergasted and impressed.

Even maple reads the first 6 words.

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

"maybe towny cause this is an insane thing to say" got a real life belly laugh from me

love manti posts

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Is being peeformative AI for him?

Peeformative, wish I could thanks my typos

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

sup Dolby. glad to play with u again friendo. Yes, have a look at the knight and grr for me pls (I have had them as sr or leans but reevaluating). I might pass out in a few minutes, but will read tmr morning

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@Raskolnikov btw so far I have both of them as town

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Pls to have confirmed that posting a readlist is a waste of time.

I like how IH is shrugging at me and my reads. True story

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Your clears are fine. (from your pov)

your poe is meh. (having both knights and myself in your immediate poe is wrong but you know that yourself. manti as poe is fine but also the easiest person to put in there at any point of the game)

your nullpile is huge.

your third wisdom take needs explaining because I think I would be the one shading in the conversation and not wisdom.

bop is villa.
grr is villa

vanta is ~likely villa. (I get overall similar vibes to last game where I wasted an action on Vanta to clear her name)

idk anymore, I haven't even had a chance to really rethink my reads list today. i do think rask looks villagery today so im not interested in voting there. I might cop out and vote montmorency because like...what's he doing?

feels like everyone else is seeing things differently than I am spew wise and Idk if I'm the problem or not so I've just been watching people chat.

i still think jan is villa

Premise: there are four wolves left

inno children(0 wolves)

vanta
stet

villas(0-1 wolves but lean towards 0)
insomnia
arctic
grr

villagy (0-1 wolves lean towards 0 but not as far as above)
sunbae
dya

village side of /shrug(0-1 wolf)
maple*
knights

/shrug(1-2 wolves)
montmore
neb
jan**
rasko**
ender

wolf side of /shrug(1-3 wolves)
ladd
dolby
gemma
wisdom

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solely listed on the shrug side of villagy because i support my neighbor

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never W/W with each other with how eod 1 went down; yes this is hyperbole but i think it probably over 90% true

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recap of our neighbor chat; it was silence for a while until maple showed up and asked if im a wolf to which i replied with a walterwhiteyouGotMe.gif to which he then replied with a walter white gif with red laser eyes. then we fucked around talking abut league of legends and i was telling him how i used to main warwick and he made a joke about me being a power bottom. the only game related thing we really talked about day 1 was me poking him to come join me on syn and he said sure. I think he followed through, i dont really remember but then there was a bunch of waiting gifs for the reveal followed by me doing a play by play of how i was furiously rubbing my nipples when i saw syn's flip and getting melted coffee oreo ice cream allover my chest to which he replied that it made him hungry. A little later i was ranting on how that silly tryhard Jan got me to go on rasko and i was complaining if he just kept his mouth shut i might be on my way to dvc next phase. Then i started saying how he was a wolf trying to direct the syn wagon to rasko because if rasko flips villa then syn wagon dissipates for days likely because of the god read. then i cooled off thinking its both possible rasko is just a wolf or even rasko is a villa and jan is just a villa. maple asked me aboutmy hard on for gemma and i told him I pretty much hated how she thought syn's opening was villagy over stet's opening where he literally got spew read villa from and maple said how isnt it possible she didnt read stet's post and i said sure, but then why even say anything about syn and that kind of ended there. Then we started up talk this morning when he talked about being reversed or flipped or some shit and i said its probably because there is a 3p and they are magic cards and he got his ass tapped by an icy manipulator. we had a nice chortle, thats about it. i'm pretty much v reading him solely because i enjoy the chat and even if hes a wolf i dont care. You can't have my neighbor

like going into yesterday's elim, i had ladd, rask, and jan all as villa and I think i'm probably wrong on just 1 of them. If I am, it's ladd.

Whoever made that one post about thinking it's reasonably likely that Mont is a villager, that post seemed good.

Maybe I'm biased, but I'm not particularly a fan of dolly's catchup so far.

The people I want to see more from more or less haven't given much more yet which is annoying so I'm just gonna give it till I'm on my computer.

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Originally Posted by Maple

Whoever made that one post about thinking it's reasonably likely that Mont is a villager, that post seemed good.

Maybe I'm biased, but I'm not particularly a fan of dolly's catchup so far.

The people I want to see more from more or less haven't given much more yet which is annoying so I'm just gonna give it till I'm on my computer.

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i agree wrt dolby

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Originally Posted by Maple

Whoever made that one post about thinking it's reasonably likely that Mont is a villager, that post seemed good.

Maybe I'm biased, but I'm not particularly a fan of dolly's catchup so far.

The people I want to see more from more or less haven't given much more yet which is annoying so I'm just gonna give it till I'm on my computer.

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The crowd boos

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Originally Posted by Maple

Whoever made that one post about thinking it's reasonably likely that Mont is a villager, that post seemed good.

Maybe I'm biased, but I'm not particularly a fan of dolly's catchup so far.

The people I want to see more from more or less haven't given much more yet which is annoying so I'm just gonna give it till I'm on my computer.

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dolby's catch up like confused me. It seemed like dolby had some thoughts in real time he abandoned for catch up reads

if yall aint a fan of my catchup vote me then

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Originally Posted by Dolby

if yall aint a fan of my catchup vote me then

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vote: dolby

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Originally Posted by Dolby

if yall aint a fan of my catchup vote me then

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im still deciding what to do. I won't be doing as I'm told though

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Originally Posted by dyachei

im still deciding what to do. I won't be doing as I'm told though

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when you get the chance can you check my list and see how it compares to your thoughts

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

when you get the chance can you check my list and see how it compares to your thoughts

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same list as last night?

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

same list as last night?

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yaya, id made a couple small adjustments since but i dont think dya was around overnight (small adjustments are a tip up for mont and ladd, and then listening to people with vanta on the more towny side)

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

yaya, id made a couple small adjustments since but i dont think dya was around overnight (small adjustments are a tip up for mont and ladd, and then listening to people with vanta on the more towny side)

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any chance you can link or give me a post number?

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

As for current reads and how they've shifted, I don't really think anything happened that should make me shift my reads? I feel like I had a pretty solid day one from what I can tell. The reads I was most passionate about defending ended up voting a wolf (Dya, Maple, tho again with Maple it's a tier below Dya). My villager read on Insomnia seems to have been good as not only did he vote a wolf but the post "Ive never voted for someone without reading their posts" is probs the villageriest thing posted at eod. I had townreads on arctic and Knights and they both voted a wolf.

Meanwhile the wolf was someone I had no real read on and didn't have too much to go off of on reread to make opinions off of. The people I was skeptical of - Ender, Rask, Jan - did not vote the wolf and voted someone I was village reading (knights for ender/rask, Jan was elsewhere).

I'm currently operating under the framework of like:

0 wolves hopefully, maaaaybe 1:
Dya
Insom
Colonel
didistetter (this is more going off others)
neb


Probably a wolf here but theyve been villagery enough and I'll deal with it later
Grr
Maple
Knights
Arctic
Gemma


Most woofs in here (unordered)
Ladd
Wisdom
Jan
Rask
Mont
Ender
Vanta



but im sure when i reread more and interact this will shake up some

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here you go dya

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

@Wisdom

why did you have syn as a lower tier villa yesterday?

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Pretty sure I had him as upper tier PoE but it might depend on when you're talking about.

I tend to read Syn through his mood and he was way too happy/jokey which I read as wolfy. But that burned me last game and he didn't really give me anything else to read him on. Rask reads Syn better than me though (or so I thought, at least) and he town cleared Syn, which I at some point thought made Syn town regardless of Rask's alignment.

I wasn't able to word it properly since I'm on phone so I hope it makes sense. @ColonelLubriderm

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

Premise: there are four wolves left

inno children(0 wolves)

vanta
stet

villas(0-1 wolves but lean towards 0)
insomnia
arctic
grr

villagy (0-1 wolves lean towards 0 but not as far as above)
sunbae
dya

village side of /shrug(0-1 wolf)
maple*
knights

/shrug(1-2 wolves)
montmore
neb
jan**
rasko**
ender

wolf side of /shrug(1-3 wolves)
ladd
dolby
gemma
wisdom

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solely listed on the shrug side of villagy because i support my neighbor

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never W/W with each other with how eod 1 went down; yes this is hyperbole but i think it probably over 90% true

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recap of our neighbor chat; it was silence for a while until maple showed up and asked if im a wolf to which i replied with a walterwhiteyouGotMe.gif to which he then replied with a walter white gif with red laser eyes. then we fucked around talking abut league of legends and i was telling him how i used to main warwick and he made a joke about me being a power bottom. the only game related thing we really talked about day 1 was me poking him to come join me on syn and he said sure. I think he followed through, i dont really remember but then there was a bunch of waiting gifs for the reveal followed by me doing a play by play of how i was furiously rubbing my nipples when i saw syn's flip and getting melted coffee oreo ice cream allover my chest to which he replied that it made him hungry. A little later i was ranting on how that silly tryhard Jan got me to go on rasko and i was complaining if he just kept his mouth shut i might be on my way to dvc next phase. Then i started saying how he was a wolf trying to direct the syn wagon to rasko because if rasko flips villa then syn wagon dissipates for days likely because of the god read. then i cooled off thinking its both possible rasko is just a wolf or even rasko is a villa and jan is just a villa. maple asked me aboutmy hard on for gemma and i told him I pretty much hated how she thought syn's opening was villagy over stet's opening where he literally got spew read villa from and maple said how isnt it possible she didnt read stet's post and i said sure, but then why even say anything about syn and that kind of ended there. Then we started up talk this morning when he talked about being reversed or flipped or some shit and i said its probably because there is a 3p and they are magic cards and he got his ass tapped by an icy manipulator. we had a nice chortle, thats about it. i'm pretty much v reading him solely because i enjoy the chat and even if hes a wolf i dont care. You can't have my neighbor

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I agree with the first 3 tiers in varying degrees. (all of them I have at least as village lean)

I have gemma higher but not confident enough to try and convince anyone of it.
I vibed with her I don't bus reaction towards me. Not because I don't think she busses in general, but because I think she thinks she would not bus in that situation. Again ~vibes.

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

As for current reads and how they've shifted, I don't really think anything happened that should make me shift my reads? I feel like I had a pretty solid day one from what I can tell. The reads I was most passionate about defending ended up voting a wolf (Dya, Maple, tho again with Maple it's a tier below Dya). My villager read on Insomnia seems to have been good as not only did he vote a wolf but the post "Ive never voted for someone without reading their posts" is probs the villageriest thing posted at eod. I had townreads on arctic and Knights and they both voted a wolf.

Meanwhile the wolf was someone I had no real read on and didn't have too much to go off of on reread to make opinions off of. The people I was skeptical of - Ender, Rask, Jan - did not vote the wolf and voted someone I was village reading (knights for ender/rask, Jan was elsewhere).

I'm currently operating under the framework of like:

0 wolves hopefully, maaaaybe 1:
Dya
Insom
Colonel
didistetter (this is more going off others)
neb


Probably a wolf here but theyve been villagery enough and I'll deal with it later
Grr
Maple
Knights
Arctic
Gemma


Most woofs in here (unordered)
Ladd
Wisdom
Jan
Rask
Mont
Ender
Vanta



but im sure when i reread more and interact this will shake up some

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ok sunbae here goes

I think you're being too lenient with ben. yes, he's playing differently and he's been absent. I have him as basically null for it, i'm not sure how you can have him so high. I agree on insom, stett, and bop

I think there's a chance of gemma or grr being a wolf. I think there could be 2 wolves here and 2 wolves in your last category. I dont think jan/rask/ladd are all wolves together. I think there's at least 1 villa and probably really 2. i dont really know what to do with vanta but I got slight v vibes there

and ender I suck at reading. it's possible, and I think interactions look bad for him.

grr seems to be doing a lot of work but I'll be honest, I'm having a hard time with his posts because there's too much going on in them and I'm not really sure if he believes all of what he's saying

How about we just yeet all wall posters and multi quoters?

Do you think it's possible that I've taken my normal approach to benneh (one where I read him mostly based on whether or not he's showing attempts to position himself for the future) and applied it to a game that isn't normal (appears to be very busy)? So I'm reading a lack of long term approach as villagery but it really just means he's just not been available at all?

@Arctic sup?
@Raskolnikov you're a butt <3 Stop talking about yourself as if you're a rational and not predictable person :3

rephrase: not "not available" but more just less available than usual (he has been participating and making reads so that came out wrong)

have i ever explicitly told you that you're delightful to play with wisdom?

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

How about we just yeet all wall posters and multi quoters?

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VILLAGY

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

What, why did the site delete my reads? Can't stuff be put inside (smaller than) and (bigger than) symbols?

Immediate PoE 3-5 wolves (unordered):
Arctic
Bop
Dya
Gemma
Knights
Maple
Monte
Sunbae
Vanta

Least confident town reads (Unordered):
Benneh
C0balt
Insomnia
Sheep
Stett
Syn

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I won't be able to be here 3 hours before EoD ever, but today I'm going to a boardgame event as well, just a fyi!

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this is the post where you had syn in the section of least confident town reads

im also assuming the unlisted are your top tier villa reads yesterday:

ladd, newcomb, ender, rasko, jan

which is kind of spicy for yesterday outside of newcomb;

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

have i ever explicitly told you that you're delightful to play with wisdom?

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Oh, I really don't feel like I'm any fun at all this game, so thanks <3 It means a lot!

You too!

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

Pretty sure I had him as upper tier PoE but it might depend on when you're talking about.

I tend to read Syn through his mood and he was way too happy/jokey which I read as wolfy. But that burned me last game and he didn't really give me anything else to read him on. Rask reads Syn better than me though (or so I thought, at least) and he town cleared Syn, which I at some point thought made Syn town regardless of Rask's alignment.

I wasn't able to word it properly since I'm on phone so I hope it makes sense. @ColonelLubriderm

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basically you town read rasko and his godread of syn led him to the lesser village section in your eyes;

i get what your saying

i dont think anyone has been unfun fwiw

same, this game has been really enjoyable for me

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

this is the post where you had syn in the section of least confident town reads

im also assuming the unlisted are your top tier villa reads yesterday:

ladd, newcomb, ender, rasko, jan

which is kind of spicy for yesterday outside of newcomb;

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Ah that's how I phrased it, makes sense!

Yeah right now I'd say...

Top town
Colonel
Jan
Rask

Leaning town
Ender
Ladd

Probably also town
Arctic
Dya
Insomnia
Stett

Null
Benneh
Knights
Maple
Monte (I still can't recall 1 post from him and always forgets he exists)
Sunbae

Wolf lean
Dolby
Gemma
Vanta

Ok read Monte's iso he's still null.

Vote: Gemma

why tf is everyone fuckign wolfreading me

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Originally Posted by Dolby

why tf is everyone fuckign wolfreading me

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maple told me in our cbat he peeked you a wolf

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

Ah that's how I phrased it, makes sense!

Yeah right now I'd say...

Top town
Colonel
Jan
Rask

Leaning town
Ender
Ladd

Probably also town
Arctic
Dya
Insomnia
Stett

Null
Benneh
Knights
Maple
Monte (I still can't recall 1 post from him and always forgets he exists)
Sunbae

Wolf lean
Dolby
Gemma
Vanta

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Colonel was supposed to be top in leaning town (since it's alphabetical) it's just impossible to scroll in quick replies on phone

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

Colonel was supposed to be top in leaning town (since it's alphabetical) it's just impossible to scroll in quick replies on phone

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sometimes the truth is undeniable

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

Ok read Monte's iso he's still null.

Vote: Gemma

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Vote: Wisdom

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

Do you think it's possible that I've taken my normal approach to benneh (one where I read him mostly based on whether or not he's showing attempts to position himself for the future) and applied it to a game that isn't normal (appears to be very busy)? So I'm reading a lack of long term approach as villagery but it really just means he's just not been available at all?

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YEs, I do think you're applying a standard that isn't really applicable here. I wouldn't vote there today or anything, but I wouldn't have him high in my reads either.

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Originally Posted by didistetter

Vote: Wisdom

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Lol Stett :3 Why are you like this?^^
I'm not really sure what you expect from me this game!

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

Im gonna push back on this.

Syn did flip and Jan did do the chain and Jan is clearly not outed. So I don't think I agree with your premise here.

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rask viable wagon

syn viable wagon

he says rask should die first for his read on syn. that's a read that both spews rask villager and syn wolf if jan is a wolf. do you agree with this premise?

and all im saying is that a wolf would recognize the really poor positioning and it'd be a tough progression to pull off with TMI

Decided to skip to the first Syn vote since what I've been doing has clearly not been serving me well. I did a quick skim of the page immediately prior and I don't think that Syn becoming as big of a EOD wagon was really visible, but I think Syn was pretty clearly in danger the moment Newcomb said he was a good vote and Stett got on him

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Originally Posted by didistetter

Vote: Syn

sure i like that better than knights or gemma

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I like this vote a lot

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

vote syn

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fine vote, think this guy is town anyway. Given what Newcomb said earlier, this might as well have been the vote that put Syn at three (largest counterwagon) anyway

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

wheres syn dog

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I think that the thought to call out Syn missing from a readslist (even though he isn't) is towny and shows the there is a level of realness to Bop's sus

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Originally Posted by dyachei

god damn it

I was thinking in the shower I didn't like my vote on ender and considering who to vote and dismissing both knights and gemma as counters because knights is always wolfy and so is gemma. So i was like, you know, i'm reconsidering my stance on syn, I'll go vote them because there's not much pressure there. Then i come online and see like 4 votes for syn

vote: syn

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I like this only bc it ties syn with the lead wagon gemma

Not quoting them but so far I like Arctic's posts in this stretch, I find them generally agreeable... except for his Syn read

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Originally Posted by ladd

villagery post

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so get on Syn then. I also don't get how the post itself is villagery

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Originally Posted by didistetter

this post kinda stresses me out but idek if i sr it or not

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this is towny

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Syn counterwagon eod gives me eepies.

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tracking

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

Aren't you just saying that out of French solidarity? :verycool:



Here's how I see this EOD.

Knights convinced me he's not a good candidate for today.

Syn's wagon seems relatively trustworthy. Syn does have a history of getting outed quick by meta-havers. But the Rask note (I haven't reached it?) is troubling.

Gemma is the player I have the strongest negative opinion on, but it's almost like low-null. I can't think of anything worthy about the voters.

Few thoughts about anyone else.

I'll do the right thing.

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I've seen talk of Monty's EOD, rn I think this is a fine Monty post and only leaves him room to vote Gemma

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Originally Posted by Jan

you judge syn on how snarky he is. you know that.

he was dennis the menace in cereal killer as villa and ghandi in saints and sinners as wolf.

I just left my fucking bed reread 3 of his games which I was too lazy to do until you idiots started forming a wagon this late in the day. (and apparently nobody else does the legwork)

And he is not as snarky as he was before but more than he was a wolf. which is frustrating.
I would kill rask before I kill syn because Rask has called syn lock villa somewhat early and I don't think rask as villa would be wrong.

In that weird world the team is syn/rask/wisdom + whoever. I am not confident on that, but it is possible?

While at a PC for a moment:



this take is actually bad. sunbae stopped posting because he was topposter and actually had some fine solving post in the last 24 hours.
both in absolute post as well as in % sunbae is way above ben in content. it is just not a good take.

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aight here's the thing

If I ignore the Syn townread I still don't like this beyond, well, he's putting people in front of Syn, but more importantly Ithink his theory doesn't come from a villa

Despite Wisdom's townread of Syn, I feel like two interactions from Syn's direction towards Wisdom just weren't w/w, the stronger one being the one where Syn calls out Wisdom for wanting to mason with Jan. I just don't feel like that's a post that w!Syn is inclined to make if with Wisdom and Jan is v, wolf Syn can bus but if he's a wolf he's going to raise his teammates over others while keeping them in whatever tier feels appropriate for them. tbf I think that Syn hadn't posted in a while by this point but still.

Jan hasn't said much about Rask beforehand so maybe a weird push but ugh

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Originally Posted by Arctic

...another meld with ladd (kinda)

also i was about to ask about syn towngames because stett didnt seem impressed but yeah now i dont really know what to do if their play here is between their town and wolfgames

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if this continues well its a good look for arctic

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

vote: raskolnikov

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

jan said hed do rasko before syn; though i think he meant it more as he'd do neither but if one were to go down that path go rasko first;

so im going rasko first;

i think im at like 72 so im only going to post votes from here out if i feel its neccessary

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I gotta read if Jan liked Gemma ugh

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

Let's try Vote: Rask

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tbh I think this is fine for Monty

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Originally Posted by Gemma

Vote: Syn

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meaningful vote for keeping Syn in contention, good

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Originally Posted by Arctic

honestly tinfoiling this as w/w which feels ridiculous but yeah
dunno i still dont really wanna kill rask but maybe id vote syn

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I think w Arctic doesn't say this if Rask v because it risks trapping him on Syn

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Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee

On a brief skim

Rask felt moderately villagery and syn was more null/leaning wolf.

Hmm

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I like this but also context that he's lead wagon

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Originally Posted by Arctic

okay um
at this point im just gonna consolidate on someone so rask doesnt die

i kinda like sheep being an option again though lol

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ok looks like his Rask read was stronger than I thought, still think the sentiment is villa

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Originally Posted by insomnia

Vote: Syn

never placed a vote on someone without reading their posts, what an EoD

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gonna call this towny

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

Unvote

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I'd have to read Monty's ISO deeper and it doesn't look good that he's unvoting without anyone getting on Rask but I think I'm fine with it? kinda an admission that he isn't fully informed on the game state which is kinda villa. I think if a wolf he just keeps his vote on Rask probably, rather than Abrograte all responsibility with a teammate in danger

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Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee

Vote: syn

Might still vote Gemma but I like that he actually got off me :3

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think this is towny given other options existed

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Originally Posted by didistetter

Vote: Syn

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boom

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Originally Posted by Maple

vote: Raskolnikov

for now, wagons or something

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hate this

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Originally Posted by Arctic

vote: Syn

dunno but im just saving rask siw

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I think the sequence isn't that great since idk how Arcitc would vote if it was sheep/knights/gemma as CW but I'm fine iwth it

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Originally Posted by Jan

vote: gemma

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anyone but Syn huh

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Originally Posted by Maple

vote: syn

hammer

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lmao

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

Hopefully the info

Please remember me Gemma

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kinda don't like that Monty didn't vote but it's like, w/e. I think there's a good chance that he was to disconnected from the game to feel like he could place down a good vote.

I feel like if Jan is town more people would have tried to exploit his Rask push to get on Rask but at the same time at EOD the CWs were nowehre near consolidated. Bopolis doesn't count to me in that fwiw

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Originally Posted by insomnia

rask viable wagon

syn viable wagon

he says rask should die first for his read on syn. that's a read that both spews rask villager and syn wolf if jan is a wolf. do you agree with this premise?

and all im saying is that a wolf would recognize the really poor positioning and it'd be a tough progression to pull off with TMI

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sorry

if syn flips there (which had decent odds) then jan is spewed wolf. and jan flipping wolf would in turn spew rask villa is what i meant

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Originally Posted by insomnia

sorry

if syn flips there (which had decent odds) then jan is spewed wolf. and jan flipping wolf would in turn spew rask villa is what i meant

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how do you feel that only three people followed Jan on it and all of them did it pretty noncomittally (bop, Monty, and Maple)?

I think that that makes one of Jan/Rask more likely to be wolfing

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

11. grr people say they are pure and villagery. Still didn't like their votes on Newcomb and me and the reasoning behind them (Newcomb not having a solve 10 hours in and me reading him in good faith in their clash with Maple lol. Like he posted a lot of stuff but he chooses this reason to cast his final vote... riiighht). Didn't like most of their lamist posts

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@didistetter

Inclined to change my mind on Raskol, probs not gonna shield/care about them anymore.

Like I get that you didnt like the read I outed on you it would probably annoy me too and it might even annoy me so much I vote or kill them for it (god knows Nanook has vigged me once for annoying him lmao, and so has Cobalt :D (damn im really annoying now that i think about it lmaoooo)), but the fact that you're not even considering that a take that looks surface level so annoying to you might actually come more likely from a villager becuz why wouldnt a wolf find a singular better reason to vote someone is somewhat starting to get unbelievable, becuz this is not your first mafia game.


By the way "this person is treating me in good faith so they are likely a wolf" is, in some variation (maybe not exactly like that idk don't wanna misrepresent them but Newcomb surely has made readslist where he said people who are to be the most reasonable about him and telling him how they are considering etc. are the most likely wolves, I can probably bring the receipts if anyone seriously questions this LOL), a read that I have seen a lot of veterans apply. it's also rand accurate btw. becuz hey, wolves like to look good. but hey im happy to have ladd tell me he never made a read like this before :curtain:

I tend to not be as slick about it as others but like you dont get to treat me worse than other mafia players just because I am expressing my thoughts in a less palpatable manner when i am basically talking about the same things others do.

dya i had as gut town all game, not because they were super towny but everything they said i was like "yeah town-dya would say this".

except that one post where i definitely had an out of body experience and i'm irked people still havent told me if its like, a normal take for them or anything because I genuinely don't know.

@grr i dont care about what Newcomb said about it. Put on my shoes for a second: I give Manti a try and attempt to follow up his process. I get what he is saying before you, think about it, conclude its NaI for both of you (re Maple the fact its what remains mostly, together with his 6 word posts about sheep is actually AI for me).

Then u proceed to wolfread me for it? Like wtf. So do what u want with it, but try charitabke if villa smh.

@Jan: thoughts on Dolby willing to make us D2 dome? Fwiw i dont like it. Like narrow vision or smtg. A lot of slots remains to be discussed etc etc

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Originally Posted by grr

dya i had as gut town all game, not because they were super towny but everything they said i was like "yeah town-dya would say this".

except that one post where i definitely had an out of body experience and i'm irked people still havent told me if its like, a normal take for them or anything because I genuinely don't know.

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I dont think its a weird post for dya to make

I am fairly confident they are a villager anyway

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

@Jan: thoughts on Dolby willing to make us D2 dome? Fwiw i dont like it. Like narrow vision or smtg. A lot of slots remains to be discussed etc etc

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This is such a narrow and ungenerous interpretation of my post. It's kinda sus

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Originally Posted by insomnia

sorry

if syn flips there (which had decent odds) then jan is spewed wolf. and jan flipping wolf would in turn spew rask villa is what i meant

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I honestly dont really get why u feel so strongly about it

If all i read was eod, jan would look bad iyam

He defended syn and is clearly not spewed wolf so id say it worked


I just read eod again and what i find strange is how much jan suddenly cares once syn becomes a wagon, like he was pretty chill until the syn wagon and then he goes "ham"



@Wisdom why dolby so low? Why gemma?

Maybe i am out of the loop but i thought dolby catch up was fine - tho i dont get your jan read and why that jan post doesnt come from a villagrr. Can you elaborate on that?

Can people explain what they dislike?

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

@grr i dont care about what Newcomb said about it. Put on my shoes for a second: I give Manti a try and attempt to follow up his process. I get what he is saying before you, think about it, conclude its NaI for both of you (re Maple the fact its what remains mostly, together with his 6 word posts about sheep is actually AI for me).

Then u proceed to wolfread me for it? Like wtf. So do what u want with it, but try charitabke if villa smh.

@Jan: thoughts on Dolby willing to make us D2 dome? Fwiw i dont like it. Like narrow vision or smtg. A lot of slots remains to be discussed etc etc

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I dislike that we already talked about us for quite a while and basically took a break for now to look at other people.

And the moment he gets some heat he directs the attention to us.

I don't believe in domes this early into the game(unless there is mech).
There is a world in which you are a wolf, but we are far away from a sure fire 1on1.