The Senate [Concluded]

Senator, I am merely being practical.

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Originally Posted by Romanic

Shakespeare. I can't believe this.

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Shakespeare indeed. If I am to be the spiritual leader of our people, I would say it's expectable that I can touch their hearts and souls.

Again attack the weak and innocent Romanic :o you and your partner are tyrrants ! Secura was absolutely right when she said you were dangerous

Military: 21
Civic: 18 + 1
Religious: 19
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 23 - 1

to rebuild what you destroyed and to show good faith to my dear friend Robbiecon

Without having a state which can run proficiently, and without error, you shall all be lost. It is the bureaucrats who hold the true power over the running of the land.

Civic +1
Populist -1

Military: 21
Civic: 19
Religious: 19
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 22

Another subtle move by Senator GE, to creep into your heart before the fatal attack.

Fact is, he's a religious man, yet he's quoting some poet instead of the holy scriptures. He's a fake, with a hidden agenda, please thread carefully around this evil man.

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Originally Posted by Secura

Being the voice of the people is all well and good, we are a nation of free speech after all... but the common man has no idea how to run the state.

He has no knowledge of warfare and the tactical nous required to best the opposition, no idea about the subtle economics that our merchants use to monopolise the global market in our favour and no inclinations towards the inner-working of our nation's administration.

He is, however, aware of the right amount of time required to bake the perfect loaf of bread, the precise angle to cleave calf meat from the bone while minimising waste or the exact distance from his home to the public baths.

Knowing such things is all well and good when it comes to their own lives, but such knowledge is useless in the face of running an entire nation.

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When it comes to what the people in power of this nation knows their ways around, I prefer bread to blood any day of the week (and both this sunday, where our new gladiatorial games, "The Brief, Brutal and Bloody Battle of the Bavarian Bridge (Bread Baskets and Booths Backstage)", is running!).

That's some of the finest alliteration I've ever seen Diamondeye!

Also, voting time.

Military: 21
Civic: 19
Religious: 18
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 23

Let the God Emperor sell out his own people to win over an ally. A True Roman would never turn his back on the People.
Also, free tickets for this sunday's games for everyone! If you behave, you can be a spectator instead of a contestant! :beam:

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Commander Secura
of the Military Faction

Lords and ladies of the Senate!

While the Populist movement continues to gather momentum and grow in popularity with the people, it is here in these very halls that their true contributions to the state are shown.

Thus far we have seen their representatives willing to denounce our holy men with slanderous calls of heresy and evil... are these truly the words of the common man? Or, for that matter, the words of those we can entrust the running of our vast empire?

What say you, the merchants of our fine empire? Your silence does you no credit or justice here.

Military: 22
Civic: 19
Religious: 18
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 22

Was the org down for everyone?


Military: 22
Civic: 20
Religious: 18
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 21

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Commander Secura
of the Military Faction

Lords and ladies of the Senate!

The recent celestial movements that led to a temporary blackout over our beloved nation has led to silence in these halls of late, let them fill once more with discussion!

Military: 23
Civic: 20
Religious: 18
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 20

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Yup, the Org was down for a little while; I think CFC had similar problems, so it might've been vBulletin acting up.

Yep CFC was down for me too.

So that's what those Gaullian barbarians were referring to, when they kept worrying about "the sky falling on their heads"

the page is back up ? wonderful !

Military: 23
Civic: 20
Religious: 19 + 1
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 19 - 1

(OOC: I know we had a good start, but now you're overdoing it, Secura and Robbiecon EDIT: And GE! :tongue:)

"I see that in my absence those who would wish me ill has spent the time buzzing around like busy bees. Yet I am back now, and I will not tolerate this recent development.
"My voice may be my only ressource, unlike those here who are sponsored by their trade, be it peaceful or warlike, but it is the voice of the people and I know it to be enough."

"I have no reason to act against you openly, Secura, but that which you have so adequately described for acting against me and my honored colleague. We must make sure to rein in those who would wish the Senate to become as their puppet theatre, seeking to drag around the Republic by the threads. This is a People's Republic, not the kingdom of some barbaric warlord like those in the Far North."

Military: 22
Civic: 20
Religious: 19
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 20

Military: 21
Civic: 21
Religious: 19
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 20

Happy now?

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Commander Secura
of the Military Faction

Representative of the Populists!

You say that the people require a voice, but to what end? Are they not content with everything that we have provided?

Their lands are bountiful with produce, kept safe from barbarians by the military and their goods bought by our merchants. Criminality is a non-issue, taxation has been at a constant low for years now and societal laws are more lenient than ever!

These halls discuss diplomatic, administrative and religious matters beyond the common man; so why the requirement for a voice?

Additionally, your concerns about my interest in the Senate are unwarranted and, if I didn't know any better, sound highly accusational. And I had hoped that you would have stopped at our clergy, how foolish of me!

I am a protector of the realm, and it is largely thanks to the efforts of my soldiers and I that this proud republic stands, in addition to the fine work of the administration, our merchants and the church.

I have no designs on controlling or dissolving the Senate, or any other nonsensical notions like it; the Republic will remain as such until the Senate and the people decide otherwise.

Military: 22
Civic: 20
Religious: 19
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 20

"Commander Secura,

"It is the duty of myself and my colleagues of my party to make sure that senate never loses touch with that which is its raison d'etre; The People. Need I remind my fellow senators why we are here? The Senate represents the people! We are here to act out the will of the people. That is our privilege and our duty. And I am here on behalf of those who are not lucky enough to have the law, the sword, the gold or the gods to speak for them; I am here to see to it that the Head of the Republic, the Senate, never loses its connection to its body, The People.

"You are right that many of the people whom I represent would not know how to fare in these halls, which is what makes my presence here important; It is through I that the common man speaks. I am who grants him his voice in the matters that will surely shape his life and that of his family for generations to come.

"I apologize if I have used a rough tone with some of you, fellow colleagues, but it angers me to see the ideals of the Republic of Rome so questioned. On that note, allow me to add that I pay the same thanks to our proud soldiers that I do to our priests, our judges and tribunes, our merchants of all trades, and all other good Roman citizens; They serve the republic through each their own required role, and as you are here on behalf of our legions, so am I here on behalf of all those men who makes Rome what it is each day; from the lowliest cobbler and fisherman to the very top of society amongst the nobilitia, their voice lends mine its strength.

"I am still of the opinion that reining in God Emperor's common influence in the senate will help to balance the scales of power should he be elected Consule today."

Military: 22
Civic: 20
Religious: 18
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 21

Damn populists. Using my perfectly good elephants for their smelly circuses. They've turned them into beasts of entertainment, not of war.

I'm going to change that.

Military: 23+
Civic: 20
Religious: 18
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 20-

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Originally Posted by Secura

Am I too late to sign up?

I'd go Military with everyone's 'favourite' thread spammer, if not. :3

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"Oh and someone should burn down that Carthage village, by the way. Secura?"

You still dare steal representatives of the religious house minor?! An investigation should soon commence to find out if the house of populists even pay hommage to our Gods


Military: 23
Civic: 20
Religious: 19 + 1
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 19 - 1

Taking back what is rightfully mine

Representative Diamondeye:

It is your duty, first and foremost, to uphold the integrity of the state; the lives of our people are certainly of the upmost importance, but they are nothing compared to the sacrosanctity of Roma itself.

You mention priveleges, but that is not why we're here; we are here because we are the greatest minds in our respective fields, which is precisely what is required to run our glorious republic. The common man would be here himself, if he was only a patron of the collegia rather than the taverna.

I do not oppose the common man making his opinions known to the Senate, but dictating the course of diplomacy, economics or the bureaucracy? That is a different matter altogether.

If the Military grow too strong we'll have a full on coup on our hands, we cannot let our empire be given over to them, they serve us well, but they would not lead us well, I fear.

Military: 22
Civic: 21
Religious: 19
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 19

And if the military grows too weak you'll have a barbarian invasion on your hands. Ever think about that, or were you too busy looking at statues to notice?

I maintain the same stance I cited earlier; the republic will remain a republic, though I might add that hegemony is not necessarily a bad thing, if only for a little direction.

Military: 23
Civic: 20
Religious: 19
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 19

I leave a minute and we're suddenly last?

Cry "Havoc!", and let slip the dogs of war!

Military: 23
Civic: 20
Religious: 18
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 20

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Originally Posted by God Emperor

Taking back what is rightfully mine

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These words have never rung truer:
Military: 23
Civic: 20
Religious: 17
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 21

Military: 23
Civic: 20
Religious: 17
Mercantile: 20
Populist: 20


Should I die a pauper, I still would never support a populist.

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Originally Posted by Romanic

Cry "Havoc!", and let slip the dogs of war!

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Someone appears to be confused about their alignment :rolleyes:

Military: 24
Civic: 20
Religious: 17
Mercantile: 20
Populist: 19

Fast editing there, Double A. I was about to ask why you thought you had a double vote.

Also; Pizza :shame: The only faction that I have never made a move against, and you repay me like this? Where are the honest men of Rome? Oh right you're merchants

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Originally Posted by Diamondeye

Fast editing there, Double A. I was about to ask why you thought you had a double vote.

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Yeah, I always refresh the page to check for ninjas.

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Originally Posted by Double A

Yeah, I always refresh the page to check for ninjas.

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Ninjas! In our senate chambers? Someone call the guards!
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