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I wasn't objecting to you moving me, that's all well and good. What I was objecting to was the pace of which this game is advancing. I could have moved myself now, everyone could have attacked, and even though desert is only making his story, he should still be given the time to move around as he please. To go on fast now I can understand, but just giving 2 hours is too fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by navarro951
ya from now on 24 hours guys you have my word unless were all agreed its cool to take it...my apologies.
No harm done Navarro. Make all the mistakes now so that we learn quickly what works and what doesn't.
Well, there was a small damage done in that everyone had to attack one turn later. Yes. Hrrm. I said small, didn't I? :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Baen
well not actually, I think there would be no difference if I attacked this turn or in the previous turn, in both turns the gate wasn't busted. but Cotta (Baen) became practical (+1 management) while waiting outside Rhegion!
thats good news! and hey another good job. tough battle i bet huh? losses could of been alot worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by everyone
actually, the number doesn't seem a lot once the battle is over; it just seems like what happened after Taras if you take a look at my SOT.
and thanks to the chirurgeon ancillary, the number of casualties were lowered.
edit: and the congressional session starts next turn right?
ya i love that one haha, o and the reason you declare is because in a sense you "own" his oath of loyalty and serving you so you have to allow that to be relinquished.
@baen: good luck ill put your legion together as soon as it can be done
ah, I see.
well I can foresee that you're probably going to announce the event during the Congressional session; and some campaigns are going to be sent to wherever you decide the event to be....and so on. I'm guessing rule 4.4's going to be included :smash:
and maybe that's also what the extra legion is for >)
Yeah, actually, about that Navarro. I'm not ungrateful or anything, actually, i'm flattered, but I would prefer to be given a small command of my own before being granted an entire legion. Kind of like an advance force for softening up the enemy or pursuing forces outside the enemy main army. I think it would be inaccurate to give me an entire legion when i have not actually had any independent command of my own as of yet. What do you think?
@everyone: you on the money haha.
@baen: you'll be fine discuss tactics with everyone IC through PMs he's realeasing you he must know what hes doing so...read everyone's post...go read rule 4.4. can you say "joint" operation. you wont be alone out there
forgetting your own rank or forgetting who you are hehe :juggle2:Quote:
Originally Posted by everyone
:furious3:
actually I meant to type Legatus Cotta. dammit! I forgot who I am! I unintentionally foreshadowed this in one of my Stories in the Stories thread
Oh I get that, but dont you think giving command of an entire legion to an untested eighteen year old is a bit...iffy?
well Baen, if Roka wasnt haven comp problems I wouldnt have to. But your the only other legatus weve got out there now and we need you to support the push north. and in teh 260's will have the punic wars to worry about. we need ya. besides your legion will be light i wont throw you into anything tough, strictly field battles with even odds as best as i can arrange that.
Your legion i imagine like this:
Yourself, a Tribunus (if one vows to serve with you)
2 Hastati/ or Triarii
2 Rorarii
2 Leves
2 Eqvites Romani
or ill give you a legion made up of Italic Allies which ill have to decide later.
an eighteen-year-old with......good leadership, good connections and a recommendation from a rather high-ranked general?Quote:
but dont you think giving command of an entire legion to an untested eighteen year old is a bit...iffy?
exactly and 2 years legionary service in famed battles!Quote:
Originally Posted by everyone
We're pushing north? Awesome! But yeah, fine. I'll have to add some more heroics and command proof to my frontline stories then. Add some independent commands there. That ought to do.
speaking of which, you're still not done with your story of the battle of taras. I'm still waiting for the rest, you said the one that's currently there is just the intro! heh :smash:
edit: woot! we got our own forum!!!1111one!11
Yeah I'm doing bits to it all the time, Everyone. I'll try and do a frontline story for most battles. And, woo we got our forum! Is TC going to move all these threads?
Well, it actually doesn't matter too much to me.
Except, when Lvcivs/Roka is moved to Taras, can you leave the save open for that turn?
Because that's when I need to move.
And hopefully that happens today, because I'm going to be gone from Sunday to mid-Tuesday.
Congratulations on getting your own forum!! :balloon2: :2thumbsup:
thanks alot Ibn, and great job guys. Yes i believe TinCow will move them for us lets just keep moving forward not rush him haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun
just go ahead and move...any players im making moves for i do last so you can move then ill move him and do other things then end the turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by desert
Ok. Although, I wish Roka wasn't having computer problems. I intended to have an IC chat with him in the Stories Thread.
^^^that is unless of course you want me to move you too. if all is fine all go ahead and ask, cool if i take the save guys? cept um Baen you should head to Roma so i can start putting your legion together.
yeah, that would be faster. Go ahead and move him.
okay and i need baens okay too or do you want to move yourself?
Oh sorry Navarro, yeah. You might as well do everything on one save. Lets go on a trip to Roma! Yay!
I don't think Cotta has any more moves for the turn, he's only able to move a tile or so; I remember regvlvs depleted his moves already
hmmm, the council session starts this turn right? it's already spring 269.
no in the winter, i will wait for all moves to be done and then close the save. we will have our session, vote, ill update the library and what not, then we continue. Its a good 3-5 day process.Quote:
Originally Posted by everyone
ok, I'd like to move Asina out of Rhegion to Roma but I'm afraid that the public order would drop to red; so I've left some requests in my SOT post.
ya okay im gonna figure out a garrison and sure ill have you out by next turn. all this extra money will allow me to do that easily and also get our next legion goingQuote:
Originally Posted by everyone
It will take years to create a new legion if you only use one city though won't it?
Ok, this is it. I won't be able to participate until late next Tuesday.
Would you mind leaving the voting open until then?
im not drawing from one city...thats just a rallying point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baen
voting may be on tuesday so i wont have to. remember there is the turns to finish, 2 day council, 2 day voting, library updates, and closing.Quote:
Originally Posted by desert
edit: speaking of which is there anymore moves to be made this turn?
No one can move I dont think. Lets see:
I'm going to Rome and have been moved.
Everyone is staying in Rhegion this turn.
Desert has been moved...hasnt he?
Roka is still away
TCV is in Rhegion?
No one else is active...
im not exactly sure where desert wants to be...no SOT for it
edit: still sum hours left on the save so ill wait for a response.
Okay yall our History page is up!
Liking the history page, Navarro.
As soon as it's assembled, we will meet in Rome to attend the second Congressional Senate meeting. From there we will decide where our armies will be sent. Make sure you attendQuote:
Originally Posted by Mjolnir
Sounds good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baen
oooooo my god. Sorry guys one wild night im gonna go to sleep and will take the save first thing in the morning...well it is the morning but a lil later so any moves that havent been made by those who can move, do them now, post it in the SOT for me, or sucks for you.
edit: i took the time to update the library and what not though, your in there now Mjolnir. Ill do all the new pics during council so you guys can have all that their for ya then. ill probably be playing as Blasio tho hehe goodnight for me now
navarro, by the time you've woken up, you're probably going to take the save and do the moves, so this part is going to be rather long, because I've some stuff to ask about/correct the rules/FAQ thread (because it isn't very clear to some extent)
so to save time, you can go complete the save first before replying, I can wait for your reply on this. :yes:
(I'm just pointing this out so that people who join in the future won't get confused/mistaken so don't misunderstand that I'm trying to scrutinise everything)
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
thanks for reading this. hope you'll clarify some of the stuff I mentioned.
edit: I just found out all the BtSH topics were moved into our forum! thanks TC :bow:
Welcome to the new BtSH subforum. Please note that this subforum is provided for organizational purposes only. It is still a part of the Throne Room and all Throne Room rules still apply. navarro951 is Forum Leader for the BtSH subforum and has the ability to sticky and lock threads. He is also responsible for running the BtSH game. If you have a problem with the game itself, please contact navarro951 first. I will not be monitoring the daily progress of the game, so it would be best if you could try and resolve any issues with him first, and only bump it up to me if you are not satisfied with the result.
However, this only extends to gameplay itself. If there are general problems between players in this forum, please contact me directly. I am, of course, always available to help out with the game in whatever way possible. Let me know what I can do to help, and I will get it done. Just remember that I probably won't be aware of what the actual in-game situation is, so you might have to give me a bit more background detail.
Good luck, and I hope the game goes well. :2thumbsup:
Rule 2,1, yes it is was my mistake.
Rule 2.4 and the Quaestor is simply saying, you have to be a Qauestor to get a PD, and it will be granted to you by the Dictator. Or in other words, Quaestor and above can be granted them. Such as saying Legatus cannot run for consul. But Dux can meaning if you are Dux or higher you can.
If you become a Praetor and are also a Prov.Dictator, then you now are just a more powerful dictator. See the individual rules for ranks are for if you do not get a Prov.Dictatorship. You must have a prov.dictatorship to be a Quaestor true, but that is simply to be granted the rank. It can be taken away and you can still be a Quaestor as ranks are not stripped. But you will lose some political power which is sort of the point of these ranks. As a Praetor, you may not even keep your PD. You may end up back in the field anything can happen, but you still may own one. Ill be changing this anyway though!.
Rule 3.5
The 1/2 thing is more of a joke, if you read in the Tribunus rank i put inf: 1 if any.
I went ahead and changed that Tribunus thing as it was more a mistake not a change in rules.
This looks like a very promising game. I'm glad I could get in on one during it's beginning.
Ave Legions!
Legion...theres still technically only one...but we're working on it :2thumbsup:
Heh, I understand.
Also, I'm guessing we're using Republican Legions/tactics right now?
Theres a part in the Senate thread about battle tactics...technicaly we're all still meant to be in there discussing it, seeing as that session never closed :laugh4:
historically, yes...in game id prefer for the sake of not getting owned you do what works for you as commander if Republican tactics work for you then by all means kill sum barbarians!Quote:
Originally Posted by Il_Duce
how is the public in Rhegion then? i still have one more Akontistai to makeQuote:
Originally Posted by everyone
it's still green, don't worry, but the other akontistai might be needed in case the population expands too quickly or the carthaginians decide that we're going to invade sicilia
we'll we're supposed to be, but if you see my report on the battle near Taras, I didn't because of the lack of infantryQuote:
Originally Posted by Il_Duce
hey guys! as you may or nay not have noticed, i have been absent from these threads for quite some time. this is due to some bad internet connections to my comp and to my PS3 which has left me ready to hurl them out of my window. anyway just checking back in to let you know im still with it. i may be absent for a few more days to try and fix these issues.
Oh and my laptop display broke too. its just been a bad week.
looking forward to some good ol' RTW to chear me up :)
welcome back!
ok, we have good news, we're forming another legion (as you have read), and that means all the current players who are tribuni can join the legions and have a chance to be promoted to legatus!
wooo great news. just posted a request for service in the Senate thread hope it gets accepted :)
So we aren't using any mini-mods or anything are we? Just straight up 1.1? Will the official fixes minimod affect anything? I haven't downloaded it yet but I'm just wondering.
no it shouldn't, the Romani script is so in depth im purely going with that and my own console changes when necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Il_Duce
Plus we dont really need to...anything like Force Diplomacy will be handled by Navarro as he controls all the agents
how about in the future, when we get someone else to become consul of finance, then the person would need to end the turn/move diplomats and such; maybe by then, navarro would send a copy of his BtSH mod to those people
What about the 1.1 mod for the Bruttian Soldiers, i forgot how it's named. ?
Konny's one? We discussed that, but it affected the game script and stuff, so it complicates things. Anyway, Everyone FD is easy to implicate later so any consul of finance can download it when they need it.
I was also referring to navarro's "roman script", or something like that, which probably spawns generals.
Hey Everyone, how did Cato get hit by an arrow? I'm gonna have some fun implementing that. :laugh4:
well, as you can see from the battle report, PRefect Cato was treated for an arrow wound; and what I didn't mention in my battle report was that a unit of hastati (which I RP'ed as under Cato's control) was reduced to 2 men (one officer + one of the soldier), then when I moved the main infantry force towards town square, the small unit of toxotai there shot at the infantry and the arrows took out the hastati unit. after the battle, the unit replenished (healed) to around 40 men; so I took it as those 40 men fell from missile fire.
edit: wow you're writing a lot of stories, gah you still have one more unfinished story! :clown:
edit 2: nice story/extension to the battle of Taras, though I RP'ed the part where you reformed the line after crushing the phalanx as you taking the initiative to reform it, because by then the Tarantine cavalry was dangerously close, so I had to rush my left wing to attack them
Yeah the storylines are all pretty loose so dont expect them to be exactly how the battle played out or anything, but I need to add those sorts of things as i need to develop Cotta's character if he is to become Legatus soon
ah, I see. well I'm eagerly waiting your next story, they're all rather interesting.
Why thank you very much. I can't get them out as often as I'd like though, I'm writing a book as it is and sometimes that takes priority. The good thing is I can just use what I write for this in that book, slightly modified of course.
Yeah, I'm sure FD and other small add-ons are savegame compatible so as long as we're careful, no worries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baen
actually all this stuff is a simple edu and edb file change. and RGBs will always be handled by the game master i will spawn those so since recruiting hasnt been changed the Consul's are still okay. Same for construction as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Il_Duce
Navarro, sweet updates in the Senatorial Library. :2thumbsup:
ty ill wen the Congressional Council starts all the NEW photos and what not will be up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mjolnir
Great work man. I think I speak for everybody when I say we appreciate all your hard work.Quote:
Originally Posted by navarro951
Thanks alot, its been a bit lighter on me tho being xmas vacation and jeez the help i got from Ibn and TinCow was worthy of standing ovation lol. I never had talked to a mod and been so quickly responded to in my life hehe. But thanks alot guys i hope you enjoy this no matter the outcome. (Those Scaaaary Carthaginians lol) And i hope you can pull in some more friends as well we always could use more members. Also, had another problem with gettin my RGBs but i fixed it so during winter all the new people who need one will get one and can be just in time for their first council.
edit: forgot to mention all you guys' great suggestions they help alot to bettering the game
The Carthaginians? HAH... barbarians I say.
I think once you start getting used to the reports and what not, you'll be polished and will be able to do it pretty fast.
And I think for now we're actually at a pretty good size, considering we have hardly expanded. But once we go transalpine or cross into Greece or something we can start recruiting more people.
I haven't even had much to do but I'm having a great time.
well thats good to know...i feel im going to lose people becuz we will only have two legions by next year (ingame). And it may be boring at times to just watch. But as we expand and the money comes in, i hope to get a legion for every dux, legatus, and tribune to serve in or under.Quote:
Originally Posted by Il_Duce
Yeah, right now I think we have a good number of players. This will get really fun when we have three or four wars going at once. :beam:
When is the next Senate session, it's coming up soon isn't it?
session is once i end this turn which reminds me...everybody okay where they are at or if they want to be moved lemme know id prefer to just end it now get are new avatars get swiss barber in so we can have one more player for the council lemme know what you all think ill give it 2-3 hours or drop the idea nd wait the full 24Quote:
Originally Posted by Mjolnir
I'm fine with ending it now
okay well ill wait for a couple more this is it tho ok:
Roka was moved
everyone is staying in Roma
Baen is in his fort just outside Roma's walls
TCV is in Roma
Potocello is in Roma
Desert is in Arpi
Mjolnir is in Roma and Il_Duce is as well...ill give it 1 more hour then im endin no moves to really make ya?