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I guess if Logic flips W some of that sweet town cred for Pzelda voters diminishes.
(This is me setting up the Visor mislunch)

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Originally Posted by baudib1

I guess if Logic flips W some of that sweet town cred for Pzelda voters diminishes.
(This is me setting up the Visor mislunch)

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I dont think visor is a wolf with logic. Visor was p hard on logic (and idt they are aligned for other reasons as well)

I think the visor worlds worth thinking about are only the ones where logic/sk are v/v

Like i could buy visor/hk or even visor/eph but visor/logic and visor/sk are both bad fits imho

read sk's big post (like 3 posts into this game) and think the worst part of it is he supposedly mindmelded with ladd and yolo regarding my opening but that doesn't move the needle on yolo at all. it's kind of a meh post overall.

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Originally Posted by SilverKeith

In any case I don't see either a baudi/yolo lunch happening here so aside from that I guess I'm in general agreeance on a logic/pzelda lunch (maybe HK).

Should prolly get a more meaningful opinion on these slots, ears are open.

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this post is so...bland for talking about his possible wolf reads. and he doesn't really go into the trio that he's ok with elimming

prefers pzelda over logic

sk doesnt like pzelda's posts but would rather vote logic. Indicates if sk wolf, logic probably not

does vote pzelda later with no reasoning given.

I'm overall very fine with elimming sk here. I think ender is more...actively? wolfy though

vote: ender

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Originally Posted by ladd

I dont think visor is a wolf with logic. Visor was p hard on logic (and idt they are aligned for other reasons as well)

I think the visor worlds worth thinking about are only the ones where logic/sk are v/v

Like i could buy visor/hk or even visor/eph but visor/logic and visor/sk are both bad fits imho

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Listen bub
I’m down for letting you goat all over our faces but if you try to get in the way of me lunching Visor for no reason we will have words.

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Originally Posted by dyachei

read sk's big post (like 3 posts into this game) and think the worst part of it is he supposedly mindmelded with ladd and yolo regarding my opening but that doesn't move the needle on yolo at all. it's kind of a meh post overall.



this post is so...bland for talking about his possible wolf reads. and he doesn't really go into the trio that he's ok with elimming

prefers pzelda over logic

sk doesnt like pzelda's posts but would rather vote logic. Indicates if sk wolf, logic probably not

does vote pzelda later with no reasoning given.

I'm overall very fine with elimming sk here. I think ender is more...actively? wolfy though

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Can we talk about how his tiered list is lmfao?

How do you feel about my elite strategy of just letting ladd dictate the elims until he’s dead?

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Originally Posted by baudib1

Listen bub
I’m down for letting you goat all over our faces but if you try to get in the way of me lunching Visor for no reason we will have words.

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Fair enuf

If you ctrl+f logic in visor youll prob change your mind tho

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Originally Posted by ladd

Fair enuf

If you ctrl+f logic in visor youll prob change your mind tho

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Yeah I know. To be totally boring I expect to just vote whoever of HK/Ender/SK is alive tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by baudib1

Yeah I know. To be totally boring I expect to just vote whoever of HK/Ender/SK is alive tomorrow.

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Personally if we reach ender ill revaluate a bunch of things cause i still dont really get the hate there

Maybe yall are right but id still do a bunch of work before being comfortable going ender (tho off the top of my head i dont have strong alternatives)

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Originally Posted by dyachei

I really dont understand the ladd vote this morning. think ladd is fine rn, but think he also looks good when you look at how pzelda pushed him yesterday



dunno what to do with this but I wanted to highlight it. seems more concerned about being tied to pzelda/self preservation than a true read

i see that he starts to look at pzelda spew and calls it a good look for ladd so thats good because that was my takeaway too

ends with an iso on syn. where syn didnt tie him to pzelda in his posts. I was starting to lean town on ender here but this makes me unable to do that because now it feels like really defensive posturing about being tied to pzelda.

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1. Ladd vote was a joke. See the post I quoted when I voted.

2. I was asked to elaborate on the reasons I found Syn sus and "Tying me to a dying wolf while also trying to undermine the wagon on said wolf" feels like a decent reason someone could be wolf imo.

Honestly, I'm pretty unsurprised with Dya going after me.

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

My biggest issue with Ender, outside of any small pings, is that I dont really think he is building a world or trying to make sense out of a puzzle. He still making undividual reads and its not clear to me how dots are linked and what is his solve.

He is much more focused on clearing HK than anything else.

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Idk bruv I thought my worldview was pretty obvious.

HK is the town who I think clearing will 100% solve the game. I'm not against the towncore who has formed, so my job is to help clear the POE. Seems pretty straightforward.

I'm trying to catch any wolves floating outside the consensus POE, but I also think SK is likely wolf. In fact I wanna say I was the first person in thread to call SK out. Only reason I'm not voting there was because people didn't want to hammer so I'm leaving my joke Ladd vote up (which I thought was obvious but apparently not.)

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Yeah funny one HK :wowee:


Disclaimer, I am not clearing u out of this :p

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Originally Posted by Logic

What?
Wisdom was the NK, bronana

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Unlike Raskol you are a founding member of the Got Got club. Congrats.

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Yeah funny one HK :wowee:


Disclaimer, I am not clearing u out of this :p

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Originally Posted by Logic

What?
Wisdom was the NK, bronana

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Originally Posted by hollowkatt

Unlike Raskol you are a founding member of the Got Got club. Congrats.

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this is a thing to think about though. Why kill Wisdom over literally any other townie? I don't recall her making a large impact, she didn't lead the pzelda wagon, she was on ladd when she died and a wolf team that contains ladd is smarter than killing the only person on his wagon. Might be worth looking into if it hasn't been done already.

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Originally Posted by dyachei

think yolo is almost always a villager because of the way pzelda read him. He had a lot of actual reasons to explain why yolo was v. Compared to the rask read in the same post, he spends a lot more time talking about yolo's concrete play.

defense of HK is also present a few times. Tries to defend HK against ladd's push but it's only a soft defense. I still don't think they're incompatible.



Think this post looks excellent for ladd...especially considering that pzelda sort of liked ladd's case earlier. however, I think this is a bad look for ender. Basically the defense of ender is based on him only being with hk, who pzelda was v reading.



hedginess on logic here makes me think logic more likely to be v

He does vote sk and drops his ladd vote but continues to shade ladd in it. Feels like that is a good look for ladd.

he kind of hedges on logic some more because he doesn't see anything wolfy from him but doesnt want to meta dive. feels like he's trying to keep the option open.



this feels like he's trying to give sk an out

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this is the biggest post ive seen from you post baby i think lol

(its also pretty villagery)

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Originally Posted by SilverKeith

I also think Visor switch onto me might be wolfy because he should like know me better? I get it from like, ladd, perfectly fine.

Upon retrospective I think this might make more sense bc he was a wolf that game so he didn't read my posts actually analyzing them (and had the knowledge that I was randomly right in a bunch of places), so it makes sense he doesn't see me in the same light as, C4, who actually had to read me as a townie and now has charitably pointed out that some of my reads are really dumb, something which I don't really mind.

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eh? we've played...... neo storpeo together

draft mafia you're right I don't recall any of your posts, sorry lol. i was just focused on trying to pocket disquieted and using that to get me through

im not sure i've played many standard games with you, mostly mashes i think

idk i just read your post and it felt like the way you worded things felt like me when i do a wolfy catchup lol

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Originally Posted by hollowkatt

this is a thing to think about though. Why kill Wisdom over literally any other townie? I don't recall her making a large impact, she didn't lead the pzelda wagon, she was on ladd when she died and a wolf team that contains ladd is smarter than killing the only person on his wagon. Might be worth looking into if it hasn't been done already.

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Probably an attempt to lmfao spew ladd as a bussed. The proper response as a villager is just lol, shrug and forget about it.

i saw someone (hollowkatt?) mention something about eod being chaotic

maybe fmpov it was different because i was always going back to zelda and voting logic was just trying to make something happen at eod but it didn't feel very chaotic to me, it felt like pzelda was going to die there 90% of the time at least

(and i also thought it didn't super mattered who died because we'd just poison the other)

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Originally Posted by baudib1

Probably an attempt to lmfao spew ladd as a bussed. The proper response as a villager is just lol, shrug and forget about it.

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this is the correct response to nearly all nka and spew analysis imo

who cares about night kills, they're done in a way they want people to take specific inferences from (or not but look like they should) or what have you

if you ignore it, you take away another tool in the wolfs arsenal

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Originally Posted by Visor

i saw someone (hollowkatt?) mention something about eod being chaotic

maybe fmpov it was different because i was always going back to zelda and voting logic was just trying to make something happen at eod but it didn't feel very chaotic to me, it felt like pzelda was going to die there 90% of the time at least

(and i also thought it didn't super mattered who died because we'd just poison the other)

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I agree. I was trying to get people to vote logic just to see if anything could be read off it but I got nothing really.

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

EOD wagons kinda felt like they were actually competing with the back n forth flow.

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why do multiple people have this viewpoint

idk, maybe it just wasn't clear to others but i wasn't going to vote logic off in favour of pzelda and i don't think anyone else there was either

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Originally Posted by baudib1

I agree. I was trying to get people to vote logic just to see if anything could be read off it but I got nothing really.

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ya it felt like to me everyone else also recognised what we were doing too lol

hkatt could still be a wolf

dunno if i got much from reading all that, or at least i don't think my thoughts have changed much besides dya moving up a notch

still don't care for hkatts or enders posts

expected a little more from c4 today maybe

VOTE TALLY

SilverKeith 5 Visor YOLOSWAG hollowkatt Ephemeral Raskolnikov
EnderWiggin 2 Syn dyachei
hollowkatt 1 baudib1
Ladd 1 EnderWiggin


MAJ is in effect and is 7

EoD is in approx 24 hours

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Originally Posted by Visor

ya it felt like to me everyone else also recognised what we were doing too lol

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Isnt it just Ender though?

I am looking forward HKs findings re Wisdom :bow: (for legal purpose this is a joke - see my first d2 post - but since he offered to look into, I wanna see what he comes up with :curtain: )

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Originally Posted by hollowkatt

this is a thing to think about though. Why kill Wisdom over literally any other townie? I don't recall her making a large impact, she didn't lead the pzelda wagon, she was on ladd when she died and a wolf team that contains ladd is smarter than killing the only person on his wagon. Might be worth looking into if it hasn't been done already.

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it's about the toan

Can we please not meme for the next 24 hours about Visor and the maj.

Please

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Can we please not meme for the next 24 hours about Visor and the maj.

Please

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How dare you.

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Can we please not meme for the next 24 hours about Visor and the maj.

Please

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how's your castle treating you buddy