Motion Detect 15er GAME THREAD

[Raskolnikov]

man, I was hoping someone would actually want to engage with what im writing but I guess not

I just think its a good post. I do remember drawing the same conclusions D1 from the first and third post u quoted (aka makes Ender/HK partnery so I wouldnt be surprised if there is one wolf there, and the post after his SK vote is as u said a wolfy bean prolly meant to turnaround the read.

[baudib1]

Unordered between tiers

Ladd
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Syn
Eph
Ender
C4
Rask
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Dya
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HK
Visor
Yolo
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Baudi

I guess I'm rereading D1 for a bit. I'm bothered by the 5 player townie clump I've got because I vaguely feel they are townie but got no strong reasons to really clear any of them. I haven't talked about Ender I think but I feel his current approach is townie.

I also don't think HK/Visor/Yolo are paired between themselves for their D2 approach of instavoting me. There's at most one wolf there.

If logic is a wolf the spot for the last one opens up a bit I guess.

Oh no u spewed me something

[ladd]

man, I was hoping someone would actually want to engage with what im writing but I guess not

i think rask is hard spewed and never never never ever a wolf (also based on posting)

agree with you yolo looks good

logic spew can go both ways imo but he ded anyway

i also don't think sk looks good or bad from spew

hk can still be a wolf, i agree. i think sk is more likely but if it's not exactly sk/logic then hk is next up for me

if sk/hk/logic is not winning then it gets interesting. the syn/ender reads on each other are of interest to me cause they should probably have good reads on each other? so if game is not over after sk/hk/logic maybe i will look at those 2

but really if game is not over after sk/hk/logic i am willing to look at everyone except rask/c4 who are just never wolves

[dyachei]

taking a look at ender ISO. caveat: I tend to read them wolf most games

Is your only ability to find wolves through how they push you?

Who do you think are wolves who didn't push you, and why? And how do they work with the people who did push you?

this is in response to pzelda. i think it's fairly neutral. the first line felt pretty strong then petered off. Also this is like the only post of interest in his entire d1. do not like that

Pre-catchup notes:
I do not think HK is ever wolf with Pzelda. I read this the other way initially on D1 but I think my reasoning for this applies exactly as well the other way around.

Visor/Raskol jumping on PZelda entrance is probably unpaired too.

Need to do spew analysis.

I still really dislike SK's D1, but haven't viewed it in retrospect of Pzelda flip.

Will be around for like an hour if people wanna talk, but will be mostly catching up + spew read

really disagree with this take but might be a decent take regardless. i cant rule out a pzelda/hk/ender world though

I really dont understand the ladd vote this morning. think ladd is fine rn, but think he also looks good when you look at how pzelda pushed him yesterday

I'm gonna nurse a scumread on Syn I think.

Need to double check but my brain is saying that Syn tried to tie me to Pzelda but then tried to derail the wagon on Pzelda anyway.

dunno what to do with this but I wanted to highlight it. seems more concerned about being tied to pzelda/self preservation than a true read

i see that he starts to look at pzelda spew and calls it a good look for ladd so thats good because that was my takeaway too

ends with an iso on syn. where syn didnt tie him to pzelda in his posts. I was starting to lean town on ender here but this makes me unable to do that because now it feels like really defensive posturing about being tied to pzelda.

[dyachei]

I haven't read sk yet, so I need to do that. But the people I want to elim so far are:
ender
hk

in that order

[baudib1]

think yolo is almost always a villager because of the way pzelda read him. He had a lot of actual reasons to explain why yolo was v. Compared to the rask read in the same post, he spends a lot more time talking about yolo's concrete play.

defense of HK is also present a few times. Tries to defend HK against ladd's push but it's only a soft defense. I still don't think they're incompatible.



Think this post looks excellent for ladd...especially considering that pzelda sort of liked ladd's case earlier. however, I think this is a bad look for ender. Basically the defense of ender is based on him only being with hk, who pzelda was v reading.



hedginess on logic here makes me think logic more likely to be v

He does vote sk and drops his ladd vote but continues to shade ladd in it. Feels like that is a good look for ladd.

he kind of hedges on logic some more because he doesn't see anything wolfy from him but doesnt want to meta dive. feels like he's trying to keep the option open.



this feels like he's trying to give sk an out

Yeah I dislike the pzelda not w/w with HK logic that?s been floating around.

[baudib1]

dya, I’m certain Ender’s vote on ladd was a joke.

[dyachei]

dya, I’m certain Ender’s vote on ladd was a joke.

that's fine. my bigger issue with ender is the preoccupation of being tied to pzelda

[baudib1]

that's fine. my bigger issue with ender is the preoccupation of being tied to pzelda

Yeah I see what you’re saying. I didn’t really understand the clearance of Ender. I’ll trust your view of interactions over anyone’s.

[Syn]

I'm gonna nurse a scumread on Syn I think.

Need to double check but my brain is saying that Syn tried to tie me to Pzelda but then tried to derail the wagon on Pzelda anyway.

your brain is wrong. I don't do associatives on d1

[baudib1]

Gonna need some more of you to sus me because frankly my wolf game deserves more respect ffs.

[dyachei]

Gonna need some more of you to sus me because frankly my wolf game deserves more respect ffs.

nah

[baudib1]

My biggest takeaway from today so far is that hollokatt’s posting has gotten a lot better, although that’s not saying much. To the point where I expect I’ll be voting someone else by end of day.

[Syn]

My biggest takeaway from today so far is that hollokatt’s posting has gotten a lot better, although that’s not saying much. To the point where I expect I’ll be voting someone else by end of day.

hello

is it me you're looking for?

[ladd]

My biggest takeaway from today so far is that hollokatt?s posting has gotten a lot better, although that?s not saying much. To the point where I expect I?ll be voting someone else by end of day.

where?

[Raskolnikov]

My biggest issue with Ender, outside of any small pings, is that I dont really think he is building a world or trying to make sense out of a puzzle. He still making undividual reads and its not clear to me how dots are linked and what is his solve.

He is much more focused on clearing HK than anything else.

[Raskolnikov]

Tbf I ve asked him to post about it, but the feeling is there smh.

[baudib1]

where?

nvm the “wisdom is a good vote” nullifies anything else.

[Raskolnikov]

nvm the “wisdom is a good vote” nullifies anything else.

Ngl I am sring this but wowee this read (smh I dont think a villager forgets about the NK)

[baudib1]

Ngl I am sring this but wowee this read (smh I dont think a villager forgets about the NK)

Wowee.gif
Do you think it was a derp-clear attempt?

[baudib1]

Btw, SK’s reads list reads like antispew.

I think Ladd/Yolo/Visor/Rask are pretty much hard-cleared but I’ll be down to lunch Visor anytime the game gets boring.

[noraplus]

Ladd and Rask, I?d like you both to talk more about Ender. I kinda buy the idea that they were messy in a villagery way but not totally on board.

the way he switched onto cap looked uninformed imo

[dyachei]

Btw, SK’s reads list reads like antispew.

I think Ladd/Yolo/Visor/Rask are pretty much hard-cleared but I’ll be down to lunch Visor anytime the game gets boring.

did rask start the pzelda wagon too? or is there some other reason?

[baudib1]

did rask start the pzelda wagon too? or is there some other reason?

He was one of the early people on the wagon and I’m incorporating ladd’s high clearance on him into it.

[Raskolnikov]

I am the one who actually started it folks. Reread from Pzeldas first post if you have any doubt. I did nothing but burrying him lol.

@baudib. I dont think its a derp clear attempt. I just think HK forgot the flip. But then I do think a wolf is more prone to do so than a villager. But thats not a read that I want to discuss further lol

[dyachei]

someone give me the run down on the case on sk? about to start reading his posts

[baudib1]

someone give me the run down on the case on sk? about to start reading his posts

I think it’s mostly that his posts are terrible.

[Syn]

Ngl I am sring this but wowee this read (smh I dont think a villager forgets about the NK)

I read it as an obvious joke tbh

[baudib1]

NK priority list
Ladd
Raskolinov

Confirmed Bronanas
Yoloswag
Visor

Strong town leans
Dyachei
Noraplus

Ephemeral
Syn

Poisoned
Logic

Ender
Hollowkatt
SilverKeith

[noraplus]

eph could theoretically be a wolf but he seems really casual about watching/letting wolves get walked over tbh

if i had to put an exact reason to why i think he's town it's that